If you created an Amazon setting, what would it be like? By Amazon setting, I don't mean a single society among many where women are primarily the fighters, I mean a setting where every society is this way.
Men are forcefully raped for being weaker than most women.
>>96819157I will sacrifice myself so the rest of my male sailor comrades can flee.
>>96819157I'm okay with that
>>96819143>be a wizard>have cosmic powers>run out of food & spell ingredients>have to go shopping>leave well protected Wizard Tower for groceries>Get cat called & sexually harassed all the way there>can't shop without getting hassled
masturbate before postingmemes aside there's actually been a lot of stories that examine ideas like this. some are more serious than others
I thought this was going to be a burgerrpunk setting inside an amazon distribution centreMy disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
>>96819143>giant>women
>>96819143>for some reason, 90% of male children miscarry>male children are jealously guarded by their families>when they come of age, men are sold to a different family>they become husband to all the sisters in the family, a number that can range from 5 to 30 women>selling the male children is necessary so the sisters can afford a husband for themselves, but families that are wealthy or have many male children can split and have fewer husbands per sister>poors have no husband and if they want kids have to go to a whorehouse where they're fucked by a drugged up manThat sums up the setting of the book i'm reading, "a brother's price"
>>96819553>>when they come of age, men are sold to a different familyI would change this to arranged marriage who prove a handsome Dowry simply because of this part>male children are jealously guarded by their familiesalso this kinda reminds me of that Manga "world of Moral reversal"
>>96819593A dowry is different, this is the equivalent of a bride price, but reversed as the "groom price".And yes the setting is very much "moral reversal", the men raise children and women shoot each other with guns.
>>96819143PEGGINGEACHEY
>>96819636This is why nobody likes femdomCan't a dominant woman do normal sex things? Fuck off.
>>96819625my son isn't going to some family without offering up a giant wheel of cheese, 1 cow & 1 horse.
>>96819143Digital Devil Saga + IsekaiAll the women have divided themselves into separate tribes who are overseen by a goddess whose only command is to conquer the territories of the other tribes.New members are brought in as babies in special caches that randomly spawn in the world and are fought over to help bolster their own ranks
Amazon class. +2 strength mod-2 intelligence modEmphasis on martial arts and gladitorial training. Light armor requirment. Ability to fly into blind rages like barbarians. Their societies are structured as dominance hierarchies in which the physically strongest women rule. Trials are held every few years to determine who will become the new ruler. Warriors who have served in the army and proved themselves worthy are elligible to compete.Slavery exist but only male slaves are kept. And every man is considered to be the property of a woman (whether that be his spouse or his master). Only goddesses would be worshipped in their societies. Male gods might exist but are only worshipped by secret cults or secluded tribes.Men would either be relegated to playing the role of casters or just completely sidlined in favor of all female campaign milieu.
>>96819668Yeah that would be the equivalent of a dowry, it's just less impactful when they're paying much more than that just to marry your son
>>96819745So the price of a ham sandwich then?
>>96819766more like the price of a house
>>96819143Judging by your Anime picture, the Amazon setting's you want are the ones that are in Ecchi material?
There's an amazonian wargame being worked on.
>>96819553>30 wivesOh noooo. That sounds horrible
society amplifies the virtues of the majority alongside with its vices. meaning good and bad female attributes should be thoroughly exemplified throughout the setting
>>96819143wage cage factory world
>>96819999being toxic, reverse NTR, snide remarks to their rivals & always trying to 1 up that other girl?
depending on how recent this worldwide miscarriage event is on the evolutionary scale, we'll either see men and women at odds with their base reproductive instincts, or you'll have to come up with new modified behaviors based on the originals.
>>96819143>I mean a setting where every society is this wayThat sounds like it would be a extremely boring setting no matter how you try to write it
>>96819143Be honest OP, do you actually want to build a setting or do you just want softcore muscle girl art and veiled smut talk?
>>96820066i mean, most settings have men as primary fighters, are they also boring by default?
>>96819143Set it up as the result of some sort of curse over the entire planet. If men fight or kill, they eventually transform into monsters in a literal sense. The only way to avoid that is by the use of dark magic, which prevents the physical transformation and retains more of their intellect, but also corrupts them even further.Sets things up pretty well for a sword and sorcery setting, where the only male combatants would be evil warrior-mages, and possibly some sacrificial slave soldiers who are meant to just charge in and turn into a monster closer to their enemies than their allies. Though personally, I think Amazons are a lot less interesting when it's just the entire setting inverted, rather than just a distinct culture fleshing out a wider world.
>>96820074>>96819861OP here. There are some ideas I have:>Births skew women instead of male. Noble houses find a son extremely valuable for binding multiple noble families together>Women are the better combatants, especially in speed and coordination. Even amateur women could strip a minorly resisting opponent naked without harming them>Magic even seems to skew this, men can use spells that are large scale, but too slow and cumbersome for combat, women are better at the quicker, rapid reaction spells>Unless it involves combat (this includes typically one-sided combats like hunting), things that are considered masculine pursuits and feminine pursuits are NOT swapped>The fact that women are combatants does not default the world towards matriarchy, though military matters are still overwhelmingly dominated by women
>>96819143Assuming that it's not the result of some magic or curse like >>96820108 suggests, what factors could cause the average woman to become taller and more muscular than the average man?
>>96820168>>Women are the better combatants, especially in speed and coordination. Even amateur women could strip a minorly resisting opponent naked without harming themoh, so it's fetish stuff
>>96820178>could cause the average woman to become taller and more muscular than the average man?Why does it have to be that way? Why not keep the slender look with denser muscles, and/or make women so fast that in the time it would take a man to raise their sword, she could sever every major artery in his body.
>>96819143>I mean a setting where every society is this way.Then you have to decide *why* that is. once you have decided on the why, you have to think on what kind of ramifications it would have on society at large. once you have a grasp on those ramifications, you have to specify on a timeframe this changed society has been running under its new circumstances so you can determine how far deep the ramifications go, or if the situation has been going for so long that those ramifications have settled into a new social contract and status quo i could go on
>>96820168>Magic even seems to skew this, men can use spells that are large scale, but too slow and cumbersome for combat, women are better at the quicker, rapid reaction spellsid just change this where men excel at magic desu or it'll be too one sided.
>>96820232But then you couldn't have hot witch women.
>>96820238Sure you can. They'd just be more likely to rely on weapons for defense, and otherwise be able to perform powerful rituals. Or, if you just don't lock out either entirely, but just have things lopsided with physical women and magical men. Then you can still have a hot witch, but it'd be akin to a swashbuckler twink where she's playing against type.
>>96820168>>Women are the better combatants, especially in speed and coordination. Even amateur women could strip a minorly resisting opponent naked without harming themWhy leave it at that? Amateur warrior amazons should be able to strip naked a veteran male warrior with her bare hands, that's just how strong they are. They also tend to be taller and more athletic in their body types.
>>96820238stop being a fag & just go with athletically health tomboy warrior women & have bookish boys who get bullied by the tomboys.
>>96820238AI slop or puckee? Call it
>>96820269>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5934906Legitimate art.
>>96820168>The fact that women are combatants does not default the world towards matriarchy, though military matters are still overwhelmingly dominated by womenWait, I've seen this before...
>>96820269what is puckee?
>>96819143Did something once where there was a big war between the gods that saw most of the important gods killed, including the sky-father god, meaning that the things those gods were in charge of had to be reinvented from first principles by the remaining gods.The hearth goddess was able to slide into the role of goddess of women pretty easily, but inventing new methods of reproduction was determined to be easier than trying to reinvent men, so the only men in the setting were explicitly from other realities.Why, yes, this was mostly an excuse for a porn-brained low-stakes monstergirl-centric dungeon crawler.
>>96819143Magic atrophies your muscles while enlarging your dick.
>>96819143This is how armor works in the setting
>>96819143You first. Be detailed and specific.
>>96819553>90% of male children miscarryWho is impregnating these male children in the first place, and how?
>>96821250See >>96820168
From a sci-fi perspective, a thousand years or more from now, you could say that humanity mastered genetic alteration/genemaxing to the point that they could eliminate the physical weaknesses of women.>>96820263This is the way.
>>96821587>slop wars reddit memePost disregarded
>>96819143I much prefer amazons as a separate race or society, but if they must be the core of the setting I'd do it like this:>Post-apocalyptic fantasy setting>99% of men are dead, either because of wars or anti-XY chromosomes plagues or magic curses>99% of births are females>As a result, women are forced to take matters into their own hand>The inhospitable setting forces them to become toughened warriors>Society has devolved into warring tribes>Men are a highly prized treasure>Wars are fought over them>Men are treated like royalty, their wishes are orders to the women. However, they are still forced to take part in rigurous training regimes as it's believed a strong male will yield more male offsprings>Killing men is considered a heinous crime, answered by death sentence>On the other hand, impotent men are considered cursed, borderline demonic, and are sentenced to death by the stake the second it's found out>"Spent" men are also executed, but in a painless manner and with honours>Only proven elite warriors are allowed to breed with men, as it's also believed it increases the chances of male births>As a result societies (particulary the military) become hyper-competitive>Women who birth males are considered blessed and are given positions of power and "free passes" for further breeding attempts>Many women can't take it and either become hopelessly depressed or straight up mad. Suicide rates are highIs this some borderline softcore porn material? Yeah, I guess, but it's the only way I see making things somewhat interesting. Just having a standard setting where everyone is an amazon "just because" feels too lazy to me. That said, if you told me my idea feel cliché, I'd give it to you. Frankly, amazons-only settings are not something I'd make.
>>96819143I think you'd have to alter biology in a way to support it, with men being physically weaker than women and women possibly having more children per pregnancy to make up for the fact they're in hostile situations more than men and more likely to die. Even then, there's still a few other hurdles to cross regarding demographics and such.A lot of leadership in societies evolved as an extension of the warrior caste and whoever the family patriarch was, but because male genetics tends to produce a wider range of aptitude, I would imagine men would probably occupy some roles in governance and higher learning just due to sheer numbers of capable people. However, I think the society would consider those roles "infantized" and subservient to the rest of society because at the end of the day, might is king and men wouldn't have that, no matter how important their work is to keeping things running. It might even be more beneficial than our world because things like managers and politicians would be expected to be servile rather than aggressive like their warrior predecessors and ones who don't act the part would be cast out.One other thing about the world would be that the invention of the firearm would be one hell of a culture shock. If women were just physically stronger than men but men retained their natural endurance and relative physiological hardiness, the development of a weapon that would massively decrease the need for physical strength and proliferating it in a society whose warrior caste was made up of people who'd benefit less from it would cause a massive upheaval in the world. You might have some societies seek to highly regulate their production to maintain the status quo but invariably at least one or two would see a shift in who fills the ranks in war.
>>96823117>A lot of leadership in societies evolved as an extension of the warrior castebit of chicken/egg discussion that one, isn't it. Are you in charge because you have the biggest sword or do you have the biggest sword because you're in charge?
>>96823203When we were running around as a bunch of wild cave men, the person in charge was the one who could crack skulls the best. You got in line because your choice was to do so or feed the worms.Initially, this might've been done within a tribe which determined who the head of it was (Though a wise but infirm elder probably had a lot of pull too), but the minute one tribe realized they could get all of their men together and force their will on another tribe was when the first nation was formed. The person in charge of it wasn't a good governor but simply the person the rest of the men followed. Maybe he had the wisdom to promote someone more capable for certain roles, or maybe he attempted to run things he had no business running.Things might be a little different now because of the web of governance and the professionalization of militarizes along with the sheer number of people in the world, but throughout most of history rulership came by being the person most capable of exerting your will on others. I'm suggesting that a world where the people who have that quality but aren't suited for actually handling the day to day affairs and long term planning might have a really interesting impact on the way things are ran. On one side, you have a group of people who are in real control by virtue of might, but on the other you have a group that can fill certain roles the other cannot do as well. Contrasted by our history in which males have filled the military ranks, political positions, religious positions, and institutions of higher learning with women mostly being in a subservient role.Would this mutualistic design work better because it forces both sides to the bargaining table to get what they want? Or was our world best in which one side was reduced to a passive participant in history? It's hard to say.
Since I'm sure this thread is clearly for the creation of cum settings, here's something related to two powerful fetishes, interacial enemy rape, and human semen cattle.>Demons are the native sapients of the Netherworld. During the cataclysm known as "The Tangling", the Netherworld, Heaven and Earth ended up overlapping with each other. Heaven and Earth were able to survive easily, but the Netherworld suffers and is slowly being absorbed into Earth.>Demons can enter into earth through places on earth that have consumed the Netherworld more strongly than anywhere else known as Demon's Gates. They can also be summoned by weaker demons (more on that later). Passing through via Demon's Gates is the vastly preferred method.>The Tangling nearly destroyed demon reproduction, they initially believed that it had rendered them sterile. However, it wasn't long until they found that it wasn't the case (due to a demon warrior raping a male captive), and instead, demons are unable to breed with each other. Instead, they have to breed with the humans and elves of Earth, only ever producing full demons.>Demons that become too powerful end up victims of their own success, they can only enter Earth via summoning. Even then, Demons summoned to Earth will leave something behind, ending up feral, animalistic and needing the direction of the weaker demon summoning them. While it varies from demon to demon, a summoned demon might have their magical or physical abilities cannibalize the other, resulting in a lean towards the other and even a wildly different form when summoned. This has created a misconception on Earth of there being different breeds of demon but they are all actually the same breed.
>>96823420>The strength limit of Demon's Gates has been increasing over time. It's theorized that when Earth eventually absorbs all of the Netherrealm, all demons will be on Earth and none will be left behind to die. Whether this is a good or bad thing depends on who you ask. The Demon's Gates will also close since there would no longer be a Netherrealm.>Every demon's true form is identifiably different from a human, elf or dwarf. Clothing, glamor or shapshifting might hide it. With some demons, they only have minor demonic traits such as pointed ears (human but with a point at the end, unlike the long ears of an elf), others (typically only women) have strange skin colors, massive wings, tails, and other traits that make mundane disguise impossible even at a distance. However, none of them have demonic traits that go so far as to make them unattractive. Deformity is not impossible but it's the same kind of deformity that natives to Earth can suffer from.>Demons will form outposts nearby the Demon's Gates. Most of the time, these are far smaller than the civilization on the otherside of the Demon's Gate, but in certain cases, these outposts can grow to dwarf whatever Netherrealm settlements the nearby Demon's Gate connects to.>The physical form and abilities of demon males and females differ greatly, with the women having more combat oriented abilities while the men are better infiltrators. Both male and female demons often have to go out into the wider world to produce the next generation of demons either alone or in small groups.>Infant demons appear identical to the babies of the non-demon parent and as they age, will develop the physical traits that demons are known to have.
>>96823463>Female demons are easily identified as such, so they typically have to force themselves on males to breed. Once impregnated, they will return to their settlements to give birth and raise their child. Sometimes, they will bring back a specific man to breed with, and the fortunate ones might get a man with his consent, setting themselves up as his protector.>Male demons can easily hide their demonic features for long periods of time, only needing to revert in order to rest for comparatively short periods of time. Since forcing themselves on a woman will likely result in getting killed by that same women, they almost always need the consent of whoever they breed with. Most women who were impregnated by a demon are never aware of it, thinking they met a charming and handsome man, made a child with him and then one day waking up to find their lover and baby missing. Sometimes, women find out about their lovers demonic nature and rather than driving him off, will elope with him to one of the Demon's settlements.
>>96819143The strongest fighters are completely naked because no armor is any use when their bare skin can deflect anything.
>>96823473>Summoned demonesses are powerful combatants that can take a variety of combat oriented shapes. While a demons true form is always humanoid in shape, when that same demon gets summoned to earth, her form might be changed to go with their new animalistic mind. Their lower body might be replaced with some beast, their eyes could become a single color, they could grow to massive size or end up regressing in age to a childish or infant like state. The mightiest demonesses can end up more physically or magically powerful than a denizen of earth or heaven could ever be, an unexpected advantage of the cannibalization of their physical or magical abilities. The magically powerful ones are unable to use their magical ability with any finesse however, being more akin to a blunt instrument.>The strongest male demons have their glamor and other traits that allow them to travel among earthlings amplified power, they are not only able to disguise themselves but large numbers of demons as well as their activities. This can range as either a glamor that hides the demonic features of many demon women, or a perception filter that makes earthlings not notice what would otherwise be attention grabing. When this ability is more focused, it becomes mind control or brainwashing. One generation later, the populace didn't have any hostility towards demons, seeing them as half-siblings, spouses, co-wives etc. These demons are rather inept combatants and if their mental influence and guards can be overcome, can be banished back to the netherrealm with minimal effort. The strongest demon nation became so by a long-term scheme. They made an isolated nation friendly to themby glamouring its existing population to ignore demonic features, but sparing newly born people from this influence.
>>96823203>chicken/egg discussionIt really isn't. Early civilization had leadership evolve out of whoever could conquer most of their neighbors or prevent themselves from being conqueredThat eventually evolves into the latter, where a ruler passes down the leadership to someone who didn't seize the territory themselves, and instead has guards and soldiers to fight on their behalf, but that evolves out of the former. You need someone to unite a kingdom before anyone can inherit a throne.
>>96823377>The person in charge was the one who could crack skulls the bestArchaic homids were not retards and I really wish people would stop believing this. We already had a division of labor based not on physical strength but on capital by the Neolithic. Once we solved the issue of food, some people were fred from the chain of production and specialized on making leather, jewels and other goodies which gained value overtime and made those who made those things richer than those who worked in the fields.Women were kept in subservient roles first and foremost because of kids. A belly is a burden women have to carry for 18 months, delicate, painful and weakening; then when the offspring is born, it is born incomplete, defenseless, and it needs to be taken care of for 10 to 16 years. If I were to make Amazons, I would solve that issue first either by shortening pregnancies, or manpregnancies like sea horses, or eggs.God, shoot me in the head. Fuck you OP
>>96819157>>96819180Good bye friends. I never thought I'd die this way. But I always really hoped.
Here's an idea for the human semen cattle fetish in relation to elves, using hentai settings as a base:>Known as the Fae, Elves, Fairies, Fair Folk, Dryads etc.>Elves are essentially the gardeners and protectors of World Trees, who created them for such purposes>They are only women, but are physically weak, around even with men>Their protection methods involve hidden settlements, traps, glamours and other in-direct defenses>However, once these defenses are bypassed, elves are pretty defenceless against other warrior women, and would often get enslaved>Enslaved elves were used as servants, entertainers, and even sex slaves>Despite not being born sexually, they are capable of sexual reproduction, and would get impregnated by human men>Unlike elves born from World Trees, elves born of an elf are not defenceless, they can take on human women in even combat>These elf born elves would then lead slave revolts, liberating their tree born elves and kidnapping several men to perpetuate themselves>Will regularly raid humans or extract tribute of males, in practical terms because they need to in order to have proper defenders, but also because sex is pretty fun
>>96824111This is just a hentai premise, you fucking sappy jappy. I can almost hear the narrator saying all this shit in their ugly moonrune language, while elf women rape men to the sick ass beats of a violin. All that's left to complete your degenerate anime intro is naming the Rape Queen of elves and some hotblooded human knight who has resisted rape but will be mindbroken by the end of the season. Well what the fuck are you waiting for? Continue cooking. This also needs rape magic, mandatory in hentai fantasy.
>>96821605I didn't know that was from Star Wars. Pls no bully.>>96821795What if you had a society of amazons, but instead of the usual battle hardened, edgy ladies, they're mainly energetic and get excitedly curious about a lot of things. Kek. Now, I'm imagining the American tourist meme of someone in a Hawaiian shirt, and taking pictures of everything, but as a 7ft or taller woman.>>96824514I read this in Hoss Delgado's voice.
>>96824514>Thinks that this thread wasn't made by OP to share cum setting ideasHow retarded are you?
>>96820168You want wheel of time, basically
>>96825095You'll have to explain that to me.
>>96824969I can't cum without a good basic premise, fag
>>96824691>I didn't know that was from Star Wars. Pls no bully.That's even worse, that means you're just a bandwagoning faggot parroting third-hand memes you got from reddit.
>>96824514He literally said he got it from hentai, retard. He's a gooner faggot to be sure but it's entirely your fault for reading>Here's an idea for the human semen cattle fetish in relation to elves, using hentai settings as a base:And expecting to get anything but lowbrow coomfaggotry.
>>96823539>A belly is a burden women have to carry for 18 months
>>96823539>There was never a point in humanity when might was the sole source of authorityYou can argue what age it was in, but the fact is at some point that humans were little more than animals who forced their will on others and had a pecking order similar to wolves. Or do you think humanity just naturally sprung up as a cohesive unit without engaging in that behavior previously?
>>96826054wolf pecking order is like the parent couple and their kids
>>96826054If you wanna use animals as a basis, use hyenas>amazons are bigger and more aggressive than their males>pregnancy is undesirable so most bitches run free>sex is short and doesnt go beyond a quick fuck n cum>men are kicked the fuck away once their hormones grow out of control>men have to submit to the matriarch, lick their balls and humilliate themselves in order to be taken in>leaders are usually amazons, but sometimes the son of amazon is allowed to lead, but amazon femboys are still a rare sight>Amazons have pseudo-futacocks, which are greater and thicker than the men's itty bitty cocks
>>96826846>If you wanna use animals as a basis, use hyenas
>>96819143I co-ran one once.A handful of features.>Women are genetically altered as part of a standard medical procedure beginning by age 8.>For brievity, think female Astartes. The sexy kind, not the super-duper roided kind. But with extra organs, stronger bones, muscles, tendons, less need for sleep, trainable neuroplasticity, etc.>This process can't be replicated in men, because the boarderline mad scientist who made it several generations ago as a magnum opus was a raging misandrist and specifically wanted to depower men. Modern people generally don't know this though.>Officially, it just doesn't work on men, and R&D is being done to make an equivalent for men, but research is ongoing. >Unofficially, it's been blocked from high up, because none of the people in power, or most women, wanted men to upset that balance.>Women naturally outcompeted men due to being able to spend more time studying, and being better able to do so, so boys collages and university courses moved away from academia to a sort of 'finishing/etiquette/home econ' thing.>A lot actually, around handling women, as the procedure also raised aggression and competitiveness, reduced inhibitions, and of course, put women into positions of physical authority, where they weren't at risk of being physically or sexually assaulted for being too daring.>Similarly, beauty standards for men changed. Strength and resourcefulness being more female traits, softness, tenderness, emotional openness (to assuage the burning emotional heats a woman might get) and general dependency on their partner, were more socially desirable traits.>Some cultures even preferred chubby, or even obese men. A mix of more dependent, less personally able, and being padded to better handle a woman's greater strength.>Similar thing with clothes.>Because it's a relatively recent sociological transition, and because men can't get pregnant, laws and support systems to protect men aren't commonplace.
Just go to /d/ man.
OP again, it seems that this thread is focused on musclegirls. Don't pigeonhole yourself into that. Muscles don't have to be meaningful.
>>96826054>had a pecking order similar to wolvesIf you're referring to the whole alpha male tripe then you're a certified retard. >Or do you think humanity just naturally sprung up as a cohesive unit without engaging in that behavior previously?Depends on how far back you classify a human, but unironically yes. By the time anything resembling early hominid arose, those social behaviours were already heavily cemented on an intrinsic level. Altruism is selective.
>>96819143I wouldn't because one of my players is into that sort of thing and his cock would break the table in half by the end of session one.
>>96819143Post-collapse space empire. The patents for anti-gravity drugs for proper child development in space were never properly tested before the collapse, so the prototypes were circulated instead. In females it supercharges the growth cycle, but males tend to outgrow their own skin, so parents can usually afford to have amazonian daughters and skinny, lanky sons. More unscrupulous organisations tend to try a shotgun approach with the growth drugs in the hopes of a male who doesn't explode.
Finally, a good thread on /tg/
Why does women being stronger automatically translate to men being twinks? Women who are attracted to men tend to be attracted to, y'know, men. You could easily have a female dominated warrior-nobility ruling over a working class of strapping farm boys and rugged laborers.
>>96829489Women fawn over twinks all the time just look at k-pop and boy loveIf we model it after reality you'd have a variety of actual tastes and then a sort of idealized male form put out for society that all women and men think of as "conventionally attractive"
>>96829489This one understands, Amazons and some light matriarchy doesn't at all preclude men still being men
>>96829489ahem
>>96830684What am I looking at?
>>96830810the amazons from the game "The Nations"big strapping dudes who can only look for food or look for a new wifeand tall barbie body ladies who do everything else
>>96830680should the women being amazons put them at the same level as men, and thus you have an romantic fantasy where a husband and wife can be true equals and do everything together as soulmates, along with stuff like hobbies and gender rolls now being shared instead of divided?or should the women be outright stronger than the men, leading to females being the dominant ones?
>>96829489You're not thinking your worldbuilding though anon.If the gender roles are reversed, you could, and should, reasonably expect the normative conventions of social beauty to shift too.Irl we tend to prefer strong, capable men who protect and provide, and dependent, vulnerable, but still hardworking and committed women.If we assume the society idealizes strong, capable women who protect and provide, it's not unfair to assume the male ideal is someone that's vulnerable, dependent, but hardworking and spirited.>Inb3 'but I like muscle women'.Diverse preferences will always exist. But social conventions of beauty also exist.
