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Trust the Plan -Edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>96820756


>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question:
Will the meme of lizardmen being bio-robot finally die this time?
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>TQ
Well they’re kinda order demons so maybe they’ll reinforce that.
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>>96830994
You're 7 years late for that shit take.
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Starborne surpremacy
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>>96830984
I remember this chap liking the taste of old shoes in the short story
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Leak more Darkwater.
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Considering how excited everyone seems what are some of the other good writers or books for sigmar?
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>>96831053
*pees blood on you*
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>>96831061
There was Reynolds, I cant really speak for the rest. Most authors for aos are scatter-shot, people are generally mixed on John French but for some reason hes loved in the 40k sphere so maybe check his cado books.
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>>96831053
On it
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>>96831061
Nguyen's chaos book seems to be prettt well received
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>>96831061
I’m not a big fan of STD but Scourge of Fate and Godeater’s Son are great.
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>>96831061
If Josh Reynolds, David Guymer or Noah Van Nguyen have their name on the cover you can usually expect that it will, at worst, be an entertaining read. I personally also like CL Werner's output but he's got a few titles I don't much care for. Anna Stephens also got some nice stories to her credit but only a single full-length novel in a collaborative series that seems to have been quietly discontinued.
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>>96831043
Is this the same dude who went to the Cities of Sigmar fort to read the stars, and his boss thought he was a fuck up?
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>>96831155
yeah
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>>96831053
You’re telling me you don’t want drip fed models month on month?
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>>96830984
>Will the meme of lizardmen being bio-robot finally die this time?

It's a meme in the warhammer community, so no, it will be dragged out into the streets until nothing remains. And then people will make copies to do the same with.
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So we have a decent idea of what the dorf, ogre and nurgle releases will look like. But what the fuck will picrel get?
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>>96831490
We BETTER get
> archers
> Chariot
> Generic monster hero
> Ballista war machine
> Hero liege hero
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>>96831490
Two guys, one with a sword and the other with a hammer. They're gay in the lore and rub bones when Nagash isn't looking
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>>96831490
not!ushabti archers
a character on a chariot

and hopefully a better infantry unit
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>>96831490
I have a decent wishlist
>chariot pulled by a hippopotamus
>war elephant
>bolt thrower artillery
>stormcast/chosen-tier infantry
>mortek archers
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>>96831490
what will sylvaneth / seraphon be getting
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>>96831688
sylvaneth
>kurnouth
>kurnothi centaurs
>kurnothi fauns
>kurnothi centaur hero
>kurnothi faun hero

seraphon
>eternity warden
>manifestation (coatl)
>saurus guards removed from the tome
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>>96831490
pity hero
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>>96831688
Sylvaneth will get nothing because you got the bugs
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>>96831688
It'd be nice if lizards got skink and temple guard refreshes. To be fair, the skinks still look pretty damn good so I dunno
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>>96831715
>sylvaneth
>>kurnouth
>>kurnothi centaurs
>>kurnothi fauns
>>kurnothi centaur hero
>>kurnothi faun hero
Awful.
>seraphon
>>eternity warden
>>manifestation (coatl)
Breddy kewl.
>>saurus guards removed from the tome
:^(
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>>96831813
I just want them to add the seasons and shit back into the rules. Being able to mix and match subfaction rules with seasons felt flavorful and the faction pack completely threw that out the window.
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>>96831863
If lizards were getting a significant wave of models I imagine their book would have waited for that.
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>>96832010
Thats a real dumb conclusion to come to.
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>>96830984
Post lizards
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>>96832044
Forgot pic
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>>96832059
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>>96832044
Sure. I like that white Carnosaur a lot, anon.
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>>96832034
Are you saying that because you want a significant wave of models for lizards or because you think there's never an association between novel releases and model releases?
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Can you soulbind a skaven and force it to be nice? Can you torture them with kindness?
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>>96832127
The latter.
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>>96832159
no
no
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Thoughts?
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>>96832159
>can I force water to not be wet?
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>>96832208
No mages is a vibe. palladors might hard carry you at least.
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>>96832159
Literally me when approached by a minority
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>>96832127
>never an association between novel releases and model releases
Nta but they have never released a unit to go alongside a book. Maybe a character or two like callis and toll but never ever a standalone unit for one of the flagship games
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>>96831490
>mortek ranged troops
>big ranged guy/guys ( 4 arms! 2 bows! Shoot two niggas once! Shoot one nigga twice! )
>a big bone mf

I'm hopping pic rel was a one off and we get something a bit different for the base ranged troop. I liked the idea of having very advanced almost modern looking compound bows but even crazier, on dudes with massive arms to account for the draw pull, or hell just give them multiple arms.
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>>96832364
This won’t happen, GW are utterly opposed to doing anything interesting with the ‘amalgamation of bones’ concept
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>>96831004
Based. Changing Seraphon visually to be more star child like opens up the door to bring them back into TOW where they can be flesh and blood lizardmen.
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>>96832433
go back
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>>96832364
>multiple/bigger arms for bow users
it isn't really part of their aesthetic, but it would have been cool if they had weapons made of bone built into them. Like bone sword arms or a big fang mace or something.
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Gitmob would be my favourite army if they were a little humourous outside of the artillery
They just seem so boring when you look past the Snarlfang.
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>>96832471
Don't coddle them. The snarlfangs themselves are also boring.
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Now that the dust has settled, why did the HoH flop?
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>>96832471
I think the wolves being more important than the goblins themselves is funny, but yeah it does lack some more explicit character.
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>>96832496
I wonder if it's the same fucking autist posting this shit every time
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>>96832502
It is. I think hes just mad that /twg/ and /wfg/ are both slow rn.
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>>96832471
Rippa Snarlfang are a good example
Half naked and dwarfed by the mount with hodgepodge equipment. That's way more interesting than large boring green Mongolians
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>>96832471
snarlfang is so weird to me. You already have squiq riders and spider riders which feel much more thematic to gitz but then they also get to ride wolves? I think they would have felt more at home with kruelboyz
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>>96832502
It is
He keeps using the same file format screenshots of the same third worlder shop app
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>>96832496
They’re just a worse version of both the old and forge world aesthetics, they just look like angular WOW villains.

Also
>using your last 20% of battery to post this
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>>96832511
>You already have... spider riders
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If seraphon can get a novel, surely that means tzeentch can get one too right? hahaha...ahhhh...maybe I'd be better off writing one myself.
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>>96832502
>>96832506
>>96832518
Lol he stopped posting for a while after some guy downloaded the app and pointed out that on his shitty app the "600 limited sets" includes individual kits and shit. Hilarious that he's back to posting but without the number now lel.
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>>96832502
DESU that is some next level virgin incel behaviour
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Remember Slambo?
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Are there gonna be reveals on the tomorrow or do we wait till Nov 5
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>>96832587
probably not. They'd say when a stream would be/
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>>96828512
>Lumineth are Greek and Chinese
That's a wild combination. Someone should figure out what culture every faction is derived from. It'd be interesting to know what GW used in making the new Cities aesthetic, Soulblight, Idoneth, and Ossiarchs. What the hell culture are the skeletons from?
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>>96832587
Nov 5 is Kislev reveal. That's why they rushed the marauders seemingly out of nowhere.
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is that listing for game specialist still up for gw? I remember someone talking about it here a couple days ago but it seems to be gone or I just cant find it on their website. Maybe im just not seeing the right corpo lingo.
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>>96830984
If there's one thing I appreciate AoS for, it's giving the lizards more personality than they had in Fantasy. Sure it's still mostly Skinks doing the interesting stuff since the Saurus are too autistic for personalities and Kroxigors are barely sapient, but it's a good move.
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>>96831155
Reminds me of that one Skink who was marked albino for greatness and it turned out his great purpose was to kill a whole Chaos horde by getting killed and eaten and poisoning the entire tribe. Mundizuma's Revenge indeed
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Speaking of HoH
Anybody have suggestions for a good basing scheme for them? I was thinking just crackle paste and paint them like they're on volcanic/scorched earth
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On the one hand I wanna go with bedsheets, on the other hand classic skeletons are also neat
choices choices
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>>96830984
The protagonist is a they? Are stinks genderless?
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>>96832698
Lizardmen are totally sexless because they are born from magical spawning pools
Humans might call them he or she but they don't themselves have a concept of gender
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The showcase models have a bit of variety between them.
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>banned for wanting greatswords again
Fuck my chuddy life. Are Ironbreakers worth bringing as an aux unit or should I spend for a hero?
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>>96832723
Thanks anon, that makes sense
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>>96832731
Ironbreakers are better in 1.5 but you still probably don't want them over Longbeards.
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>>96832675
Try rocks and green slime.
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>>96832739
They are cheaper, but that 4+++ is pretty tempting
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>>96832680
Skeletons would probably be rather uncomfortable to sleep on, I think bedsheets are common for a reason
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>>96832583
Yeah what about him. Remember when gw remastered him.
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>>96832044
This is the only lizard I've done recently. I need a better picture setup.
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>>96832811
Why leather boots for Chaos Warriors? Why not armored greaves and sabatons?
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>>96832624
>Cities
that's a tough one because really all specific cities have different cultural inspirations, but the blanket for them is based on literal cartoon drawings, they're a parody of a parody. Marginalia is the root inspiration if I really had to say what core thing it is.
>Soulblight
something slavic, someone here is either a nut for soulblight or slavs in general and Ill just leave that to them eventually.
>idoneth
take your pick between Sea peoples or Atlantis. Ones a concept the other is something I never bothered studying into.
>Ossiarchs
something eastern. I'd say persians, but when I see the necropolis stalker I get really fucking annoyed wondering why they have what seems to be an ashura reference. So maybe some Japanese, idk.
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>>96832471
>if they were a little humourous outside of the artillery
their chariots crash and burn or burn and crash at a moment's notice because they carry explosive magic on stuff made of woven twigs, and this is a feature, not a bug
the chief's chariot has 2 jars in the back, one with moondust, the other with sun-charged shit, which get released together to react and give the chariot literal rocket boosters
the wolf is the guy in charge, the fat guy is just a patsy that he chooses whenever the last one dies
the bigger wolves have to be ridden in tandem because in order to tame one you need to raise it from when it's a cub and requires 2 parental figures
the shaman is a madman on a pole because he thinks that makes him closer to the sun
their average random scrap is polished to absorb, store and unleashe hysh light, which is a trick the lumineth couldn't do until teclis babysat them
they don't follow the sun because they worship it, they want to fucking kill it and steal its shit
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I am genuinely confused. I thought the diversity measures were a GW wide thing. Why are Darkoath so diverse while fantasy Darkoath get to all be european/viking. Why the double standards?
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>>96830984
>another book from perspective of black woman of color from city of sigmar witnessing some seraphons
can't wait
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>>96832839
It would hurt his soles on the march
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>>96832698
lizardmen don't reproduce sexually, they spawn fully formed from magical pools
their language isn't gendered, they have no real concept of sex or gender when it comes to themselves, only for animals

the skinks try to pick up on the linguistic norms of the other races when they're tasked to interact with them, there's an example of a skink in the rpg that ends up referring to itself as a she simply because the humans around it assumed it was a female because it had the feminine role of taking care of their baby dinosaurs like a mother would
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>>96832839
They're wearing the leather over the armoured boots.

Also it's because boots have a larger footprint, or at least can be modelled as such, contributing to their heavyset silhouette.
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>>96832843
>So maybe some Japanese, idk.
they've got far eastern stuff especially if you look at katakros's bodyguard
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>>96832858
fuck yo AoS
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yeah, maybe. makes me wonder if those rumored bow men ushtabis are gonna be using some kind of heavy bow like what the japanese adopted.
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LEWD LORE QUESTION

So Bull Centaurs are all male? It would be interesting if we got a female version of them in future.

But male Bull Centaurs are all favored children of Hashut, a god of literal domination.

So do Bull Centaurs have sex with normal Chaos Dwarf women? Or are beautiful and tight elf and human female slaves brought to them to satisfy their needs? Maybe even Hedonite women to spice things up?

After all, their every desire is tended to in lore.
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>>96832978
lumineth have the asymmetrical bow
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>>96832985
I'm not 100%, but I thought there was some lore tidbit about the centaurs being magically transformed chorfs
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>>96832988
Damn, that is true.
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>>96832985
they don't have sex, no, they're gelded

new bull centaurs are birthed by normal chaos dwarf women completely at random
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>>96832988
>3 top strings
what the fuck
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>>96833045
This is gws attempt to make up for all of the models with bows with no strings modeled on them.
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>>96832978
Conquest jumped on these fuckers
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>>96833008
Imagine being born as twins and your brother gets the bull blessings and you don't and are eternally mogged by his superiority
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>>96833056
I find it hard to imagine a dwarf mother could carry a second dwarf in addition to the bull centaur.
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>>96832988
The multiple strings is so stupid
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>>96833075
I want to believe it's meant to evoke a harp, making them look a bit artistic, harmonious and elegant
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>>96833075
who cares, it looks cool as fuck
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>>96833054
>Conquest got spite heroes and tree dragons before sylvaneth did
James waited too long.
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>>96833075
More strings = more power = more required draw strength = cool. It’s not that serious, little bro. Also what that anon said about the harp.
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>>96832974
Excellent, Saved.
Exactly what I was thinking, just multiple arms loading and loosing arrows like a shotgun/machinegun.
>>96832397
>>96832444
I also think they aren't really using the OBRs full potential, really an artist is limited only by his imagination and whatever manager is over him. The very first time I saw the mortek crawler I thought oh shit it's like those Kinetic Beasts but it's a whole faction of them and they're alive like in Humanity Lost, but then I saw it's just a bunch of legs moving.

Hopefully they let some artists who love bones off the chain with some new models. Until then I'll dream of new stuff.
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>>96833054
I might get this, it feels at home in tzeentch
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>>96832839
In the name of STYLE you caveman!
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>>96832858
Because Darkoath are spread across the mortal realms while the Marauders are largely Monocultural.
It's not that complicated
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>>96830984
After sooo many years, finally, the first Lizardmen book? Wtf were they thinking for all these years.
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>>96832978
>>96832988
>>96833054
We can always go bigger.
Though I'd do something crazier with the bow/bone amalgamation. I dig the kimono though.
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>>96831061
There's only Guy Haley - the Drekki Flynt books are fun, Prince Maesa is a good book. Hamilcar is also good, and Gitslayer was fun. That's about it.
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>>96833126
no it doesn't because it's asymetrical. It's not doing anything, at least if there was 3 on each side there would be the illusion of more strength behind the bow pull, as it is it just doesn't make any sense.
>>96833213
based fellow humanity lost enjoyer.
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>>96833333
ok but make the bowarm a spine and keep a grinning animated skull on top
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>>96832858
>cut number of bodies to maximise the kit interchangeability, having fewer bodies than a horde kit reasonably should
>Norsca originally had gender specific kits so a mixed unit wasn't as necessary
Everything prior has been business as usual if not moreso considering the prominence of women in Cathay, so I can't imagine this is a new direction.
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>>96833213
>some artists who love bones
In that case he should be working on Soulblight, because OBR barely even look bone.
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>>96833338
Anon. I’m begging you to think just once. I promise it won’t hurt.
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>>96833344
That helps spot enemies from afar and yells "BOOM HEADSHOT!" for every hit.
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>>96833360
it also taunts the archer when he misses
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>>96833352
them going to the same spot I kind of hate. I get it's supposed to be a harp but I'm just not a fan
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>>96833351
I get what you mean since they do more just the aesthetics of bone rather than just bone, I guess its easier to make it their own.
What I meant an artist can take a lot of inspiration from real life. Mix, mash, fuse together with the sense this was created by an independent mind totally bound to create living constructs with a dedicated function. The sky really feels like the limit.
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>>96833424
Wrong image.
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>>96833056

The tome says the chorf mothers frequently die birthing the bull centaurs, so another baby would likely either be killed in the womb, or die during childbirth too - and mom would be extra screwed.

I’d read a book from a POV of a chorf with a bull centaurs brother, though. Would be interesting. Hell, a chorf POV book in general would have a lot of potential. BL capacity to write it, though…
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>>96833481
>a chorf POV book
I wouldn't be surprised if it's already been written but will be held back for another eight months from now because BL and GW can't coordinate their release schedules.
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>>96833502
It’ll be delayed and incorrect because the author would be working off earlier drafts of the faction lore.
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>>96833370
That seems more like a nighthaunt thing. Ossiarch who underperform simply get their soul(s) permanently demoted to being a horse's ass or some such.
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>>96833481
I'm annoyed they're shying away from the hobgrotz being slaves lore, because a book from the perspective of a subjugated hobgrot working in service of some big general trying to undermine him and eventually escape would be awesome.
>he's just using the whip to motivate his fellow vassals guys, he's definetly not whipping out of line slaves!
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>>96833424
They haven't gone far enough in the bone crafting. This thing is by far the most interesting model in the range. It's visually boney, but it doesn't have anything about it that would be natural. Compared to a lot of the regular units that just look like armored guys who could be made of just about any material. I mean, I like the idea of the Grievous knockoffs when they're not retardedly holding a two handed weapon in both of the same side arms, but there's nothing about them design wise that really screams "these guys are fucked up skeletons."
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>>96833502
BL really needs to have some guest authors. Pay a stipend and have the type of authors who just crank shit out to come and write some shit. Not like BL authors have a good grasp on the lore they right about anyway for the most part. Brandon Sanderson could probably shit out a trilogy in the time it takes these BL authors to write a single book.

AOS as a setting would be the perfect setting for something like Elric, man. Just find an author who gives half a shit and lay off the Branding(tm).
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>>96833520
He needs a book so badly. I love this man. His suffering is one of the funniest things GW has written. Long live the Cuck King!
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>>96833551
ironically, I think the artillery piece actually shows off the bone crafting stuff the best, having a bunch of centipede bone feet and being one massive bone supported by smaller support bones. The setting already has giants, they should use more giant bones for weapons and armor and things, it would look cool.
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>>96833538
GW are British, this isn't slavery it's normal class relations
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>>96833560
GW routinely hire new talent for shorts before bringing them aboard as regular commissions. 3rd edition ended with a new batch of them
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Hedonites should have a prayer lore.
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>>96833601
I cant see people who are to into themselves to genuinely show devotion to a god. I mean unless they're enthralled, then I guess that's something else.
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>>96833560
The branding takes me out of whatever immersion I might get into so often. I feel like it’s a management mandate on the authors to refer to units by their inventory system name when they’re being mentioned.
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>>96833538
Amazing how kruleboy hobgrots wear less yet seem to do way better.
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>>96833608
There's 3 kinds of Hedonite, anon.
>Godseekers
>Pretenders (usurpers of Slaanesh)
>Invaders (business as usual, Slaanesh will show up eventually)

Prayers would totally fit for 2 out of 3 at worst, and it would help push the narrative of Slaanesh reaching out of imprisonment like they did when the Twins were dropped.
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>>96830984
Anyone have this guy's previous short story? I irrationally hate having to buy pdfs off the Black Library site but I loved his 4vsrj0k book.
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>>96833622
Kruleboy Hobgrotz have hand grenades, they have less coverage but seem to have better gear somehow. Annoys me too.
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>>96833652
Then again it explains why several veteran grots are missing limbs
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building skaven as my first spearhead really warped my expectation of how many models spearheads usually come with when building 12 infantry and a walker and an artillery piece is a complete HoH spearhead
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so I looked into this and I gotta say the Kharadron are so silly and goofy just a bunch of dwarfs floating around with balloons. kinda made me want to get a few
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>>96833665
>Seeing the old NH Spearhead is 34 models
>All 34 start on the table

Spearheads are crazy. My first was Cities and I thought that was a big list at 17
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I bought a Stormbringer thing from Hachette last week. I never received any email confirmation from them or any indication that the order shipped. For anyone US-based who bought from them, how long did it take you to get your orders?
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>>96833638
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=written+in+the+stars+aos+pdf
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>>96833699
3-5 business days
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If the new dispossessed aren’t just this with some flame motifs and ur gold etchings here and there I don’t want it.
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>>96833661
One of many reasons I’m just using slittaz as a proxy for Vandalz. Main thing being slittaz are cheap as dirt and fuck paying GW for 20 vandalz (65 fucking usd retail) when you can commonly find slittaz, which are barely distinguishable as different and are on the same bases, at 10 bucks per 10. Ludicrous.
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>>96833727
there's no attempt to blend them with fyreslayers
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>>96833712
I really thought it wouldn't be that easy. Thanks lad.

>>96833729
I'm not sure which I prefer. I like the one or two vandalz that have the proper droopy caps. Post models when you get yours.
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Any hopes or expectations for tomorrow?
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>>96833577
Honestly part of the problem, potentially. Pay some actual talented writers to write compelling stories and enrich the setting in a reasonable (and business-aligned) timeframe. Release the book alongside the new releases, use the author as cross promotion.

But no, keep paying hacks and college grads to write garbage stories that very few people even buy in the first place. GW needs to spend some of their fucking money, lord knows they have plenty of spending and investment capital and they raise their prices every goddamn year. At least make the ecosystem we’re buying into interesting.
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>>96833615
What, you don’t like reading about characters whose tabletop equivalent might as well be bolded and underlined every time they appear? It’s just written in such an unnatural way to force the language.
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>>96833759
They literally just announced a book written by an award winning author.
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How do I convince a big Stormcast lady to give me a blowjob?
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>>96833791
Sigmar would approve of a mouthy suck suck fun time
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Ossiarch females have tits made of human skulls
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LEWD LORE QUESTION

So Bull Centaurs are all male? It would be interesting if we got a female version of them in future.

But male Bull Centaurs are all favored children of Hashut, a god of literal domination.

So do Bull Centaurs have sex with normal Chaos Dwarf women? Or are beautiful and tight elf and human female slaves brought to them to satisfy their needs? Maybe even Hedonite women to spice things up?

After all, their every desire is tended to in lore.
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>>96831061
Even if AoS wasn't gy and retarded there would still be no good books because black library is cringe shit under all circumstances.
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>>96833831
It is canon and I am going to comission a artist to make a high quality 15-20 pages comic showing decadent opulent stable like palaces where Bull Centaurs live per lore, sexually ravaging various beautiful sexy tight elf, human and dwarf slave women.

Bull Centaurs are children of the Bullfather, and those women will grow addicted to their potent members and seed.

Also, I have a idea for a Anointed Sentinel to fuck Hedonite women while chanting Hashutite scriptures.

Any good recommendations for a artist. I might even share the work here once it is done.
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>>96833831
I'm holding out hope for Cow Centuars with huge Hashut blessed milkers.
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Daughters of Behemat when?
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>>96833828
>human skulls
boring

they've got ribcages as corset with a cleavage of pure soulstuff
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>>96833831
they don't have sex, no, they're gelded

new bull centaurs are birthed by normal chaos dwarf women completely at random
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>>96833831
>>96833855
>>96833856
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>>96833870
Megamatriarchs are actually in the rumors
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>>96833716
Did you every receive any email communications from them? Confirmation, tracking order, anything?
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>>96833899
Nope!
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>>96833856
Why would you want that, anon?
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>>96833926
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>>96833926
I couldn't possibly say, the Order of Azyr would silence me. Good art.
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>>96833791
Do you think you could feel the tingle of the lightning?
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>>96833915
You should call them. You at least should have gotten a confirmation email
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>>96833966
I got my package so like whatever
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I purposefully ignored everything about Darkoath until I saw the new marauders, now I'm interested but I heard Darkoath are kind of shit in game too.

Do they serve any real purpose in StD? Chaff doesn't seem all that necessary when you already have affordable bricks like warriors and knights.
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>>96830984
I bought too much and now I feel I’ll never finish my backlog. I have 37 minis to go.
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>>96833982
>Make an active effort to keep all models segregated into their own settings
>Make a kit so cool that AOS will 100% poach it for STD
GW should just be chill and expect and encourage people to take models from HH/TOW and use them in 40k/AOS.
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>>96834062
They really should, marine players bought 30k stuff in spades when it was fully legal during 8th
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>>96834062
It helps that they're 100% WYSIWYG, are spiritually the same units, are in scale, come in the correct unit sizes and will fit on the right bases no problem.
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>>96833982
how many marauders did GW churn out
>untamed beasts
>iron golems
>corvus cabal
>cypher lords
>splintered fangs
>the unmade
>tarantulos brood
>scions of the flame
>horns of hashut
>spire tyrants
>claws of karanak
>bloodreavers (starter set)
>bloodreavers (multipart)
>garrek's reavers
>kamandora's blades
>rotmire creed
>jade obelisk
>kairic acolytes (silver tower)
>kairic acolytes (multipart)
>blissbarb archers
>chaos legionnaires
>darkoath savagers
>darkoath marauders
>godsworn hunt
>gnarlspirit pack
>brand's oathbound
and now
>norscan marauders
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>>96834100
None of the Warcry warbands were ever really meant to replace marauders in AoS, though they tried for one battletome.

Kairic Acolytes and Blissbarbs are definitely marauder equivalents, but they would still function alongside baseline marauders as their magic/archer support units.
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>>96834100
Enough for marauders to be an entire faction on their own evidently.
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>Painting Mortisan Elite box
>finished the Guard and Stalkers
>now I have to paint the Morghasts
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>>96834100
Untamed Beasts should've been expanded alongside Iron Golems, with a few monsters expanding some other cultists like a mutant spider or snake
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>>96833008
Gelding them would reduce their at. Seems like a terrible idea
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So now that Fantasy is back, what's the point of playing the derivative copy when you can play the classic?
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>>96834709
Squares are for fags
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>>96834709
If I want to play a game with squares I’d be with your mother.
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why didn't stormfiends get refreshed with the skaven release
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>>96834709
Neither game wants me to have a full fucking roster!
>AoS: No giant rats, rat swarms, packmasters, on-foot plague priests, or gutter runners
>TOW: No verminlords, stormfiends, or rat ogres with guns
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>>96834831
Because they are brand new and look great
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>>96834831
Too modern, too high fantasy for tow to want. Endtimes model too. It’s honestly fine for what it is.
>>96834840
>he wants swarms
I kinda do too but for that to happen he needs to reintroduce summons and that’s both a bitch to balance and it always fucking hurts someone’s wallet. People are already bitching that they have to buy endless spells as it is.
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Should I buy an airbrush to paint a lord of change, or can I get away with brushing it?
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Anybody have suggestions for a black crackle paint to use as an alternative for mordant earth?
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>>96834870
Depends what you want the airbrush for
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>>96834853
>brand new
they're like 11 years old
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>>96834709
both games are to have vastly different art directions
if you are TOW only kind of guy, you should view AoS as protecting you from "wowification" in art direction.
As many have criticized that has meant AoS looks more like World of Warcraft (its the most popular fantasy game of all time, no shit their artists and marketing team are gonna use that in their mood boards)

GW being expected to make sure the games look distinct from each other lets TOW stick to their roots so AoS can push more into pure high fantasy stuff
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>>96834938
And they hold up.
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>>96834831
Speaking of
why the fuck does the spearhead box come with the old grey seer still lmao
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>>96834952
It’s a sign that they aren’t letting go of skaven anytime soon.
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>>96834709
Because AoS is more fun
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>>96834956
It's just bizarre since it uses the new clanrats
that released in the same box that introduced a new non-shit grey seer sculpt lmao
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>>96834952
building that fucker feels like a puzzle
it does not fit together in an immediately obvious way
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I think a Death hero who swings around a coffin would be cool. Maybe with a new faction of recently deceased people who desperately hunt souls to replace their own lest they be reaped by Nagash and tormented in far worse ways than they currently suffer. Like a reverse FEC where they're horribly aware of their undead nature but try to appear as alive as possible. Also the recently-departed thing could be neat where they cover up obvious wounds or use the very weapons that killed them.
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>>96834952
its because the new grey seer shares a sprue with the telescope foot hero rat forgot his name in Skaventide
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>>96834709
literally every aspect of tow is an insane chore
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>>96835281
> Maybe with a new faction of recently deceased people who desperately hunt souls to replace their own lest they be reaped by Nagash
isn't this more or less the lore for the Namarti? they have to raid other order cities to get souls so they don't die?
>death hero who swings around a coffin
I wouldn't hate this
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>>96832159
GW seems to have the Brian Jacques view of rats
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>>96834185
How come? They look cool, I'm an undecisive fuck who can't pick between the two spearheads and these guys are a good selling point for the elite box.
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how quickly do the AoS christmas boxes sell out compared to the 40k ones
do I have to plan on waking up early to grab this skaven one
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Ya know what I wanna see, just for discussion: wild west faction.

Doesn't necesarily need to be straight western but like dusters, guns, could be from the great parche or deserts of shyish. Even cooler, weird west undead western factions that were lost colonies of the cities of sigmar who came back from ancient mystic energies. (Native american shit, could even have mystics helping them)

It's probably too out there but it'd be neat.
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>>96835550
Some go quicker than others. These probably won’t be gone too quickly if they’re $250.
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>>96835578
This isn't Dungeons and Dragons, my friend. If you want that, you'd better go here.
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>>96835620
Man there's magical flying dwarves and armored knights with rocket launchers, in what universe would mystical native magic enhanced sharpshooters be too out there.
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>>96835620
Sorry for the typo, what I meant to say is, get out of here.
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>>96835578
Native american is a big no no for some reason and gunslingers are too modern. I think a subfaction in the style of Grim Dawn could work for CoS, you've got the west, gothic, guns swords and magic mixed together. But I'm not seeing a whole faction.
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>>96835625
The cowboy does not fit into this universe
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>>96835635
That "cowboy" really fits into this universe.
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>>96835578
>>96835620
>>96835625
It wouldn’t be entirely out of place but at the same time, I can’t see it being entirely fleshed out. It’d be a neat Warcry band I guess. And cowboys do embody some level of grit that’s appropriate for warhammer.
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>>96835635
I mean same effective concept, just different hat. Bummer on no native american stuff because if done right there's some sick ass stuff to be seen. More mysticism from the cities end of things. But having a little spinoff with some more elite skirmisher type units with more gunpowder would be pretty neato.
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>>96835645
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>>96835652
They should be grimdark, very grimdark and not a living stereotype like those in Dungeons and Woke
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>>96835645
i feel as though that cannon would be stuck pointed at the ground
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>>96835545
just get one and then the other. theres no redundancy between the boxes, so no harm in getting both.

as for which first? the older one is more likely to dissapear sooner i would think, and it also offers more models to figure out your scheme on and a more balanced force to play. though the newer one will be faster to get on the table with fewer models to paint and faster to play.
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>>96835657
Chamonix lizardmen could be a fun take where all the dinosaurs are magical golden constructs
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>>96835687
Well shit thats incentivizing me more since theres only 3 boxes in the closest LGS with decent discounts.
Now I need to decide on a paintscheme and then not regret it.
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>>96835583
The Squigalanche sold out immediately
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>>96835550
At least one was on the shelves at my LGS until September.
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>>96835887
there are products to safely strip paint off plastic models overnight, so dont stress to hard if you arent 100% happy with how they first turn out. you can always start over
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>>96834709
AoS ist nice when I want to turn my brain off.
I play TOW when I want to think a little bit more, be it list building or movement.
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>>96835811
>alternate timeline where gw went hard into the 1st edition starborne demons thing lizards had going on and all their dinos became pseudo-aztec robots
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>>96835635
Those are just Witch Hunters
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man i am getting tired of these old world trolls jerking each other off in our thread.

shits nauseatingly self congratulatory
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>>96836077
lame
why not make them robots as well at that point
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>>96835811
Isn't chamon virtually uninhabitable due to everything being made of metal
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>>96835811
we already have a chamon subfaction of lizardmen, they even live at the edge of the realm
their gimmicks are having a lot of magitech engines and artifacts, having a lot of monsters, and augmenting said monsters during the spawning stage with realmstone spices
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>>96836099
Kinda, if you're an outsider almost everything in there is toxic, if you are a native you have tolerance for the local stuff, but in any case not everything is made of metal and cities are often built near realmgates, they always have some form of access to goods from azyr, ghyran or ghur.

Lizardmen adapt to a realm when they become coalesced, or don't care about mortal concerns when they're starborne, and in any case have enclosed biospheres in their own temple ships.
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>>96836096
Hell yeah brother
In all seriousness I think >>96835657 would probably be a relatively straightforward scratchbuild. Might try my hand at it when I have a bit mors time
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>>96836171
>Might try my hand
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>>96836177
Making them yourself is half the fun anon. Good inspiration though, thanks.
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>>96833538
Hobgoblins weren't even slaves in the original WFB Chorf lore, you lorelet.
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>>96833885
>they're gelded
Never once is this stated in lore.
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>>96836177
>3D printed SlopTL shit
Haram.
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>>96834709
Imagine not double dipping
t.gloomspite gitz, ogre sylvaneth/woodelf, nurgle and beastman player
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>>96836385
Good morning GW employee saar!
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>>96836385
>3D printed SlopTL shit
it's getting made in plastic right now actually
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>>96836442

Tell me more
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>>96836448
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/onepagerules/grimdark-future-battle-box#/section/project-story

I haven't read enough into it to know if they're going to launch more of their ranges into plastic kits, but it seems likely
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Lizardmen were cool as just Aztec dinosaurs, adding the tech and space angle is fucking gay is just the GW inability to play anything straight
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>>96833008
>>96833885

Battletome has been shared here, nowhere is it said that Bull Centaurs are gelded.

Also, it just goes against their entire concept, they are favoured bull bodied children of the Bull god, Hashut. Bulls have been the most consistent symbol of masculinity and male sexual power since the dawn of time. Take a look at Mesopotamia, ancient India, Iran, Greece, Egypt.
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>>96836499
The old one tech and space shit has been part of lizardmen since 5th edition, and arguably their high tech stuff goes back to 2nd. They've only been pure aztec lizards in first edition when slann were slaver emperors or some other weird shit.
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>>96836507
Anyone got a link? tbhon I only care about the Hobgrot fluff
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>>96835578
Just no.
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>>96836535
Check last 3-4 threads in archive, it has been dropped there.
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>>96836543
searching through HoH posts is insufferable given the obsessive trolls ugh
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>>96836507
They are not gelded, that is just a cope from one anon to wave away the implication of what happens to captured women.
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>>96836534
slann came from space even back then
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>>96836556
https://gofile.io/d/GtZmOc
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>>96836589
you have saved me my man
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Requesting Lumineth Realm Lords Battletome from any kind soul
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>>96836702
They didn't get a new one yet
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>>96836747
NTA but he probably means 3ed one.

I do not have it.
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>>96836702
>>96836765
I do

https://files.catbox.moe/z2y41k.pdf
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>>96836775
Thank you!
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Did Teclis appropriate Asian culture in WHF too? Cathayaboo
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>>96836933
>cathayaboo
This old cathay art looks remarkably luminethy now that you mention it
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>>96836956
Almost like they have the same inspiration behind them
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>>96836978
Yeah, definitely Zelda The Twilight Princess
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>>96836956
>remarkably luminethy
not at all, lumineth don't have studded leather, they don't have flaming or toothed designs, or snarling draconic faces

if you're fossilizing on the pointy pauldrons those are generally applied in exotic, and usually eastern, designs, not really something about lumineth.
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>>96836987
Kek
>>96837007
I'm mostly going off the head silhouette being pretty close to teclis'
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BASED Vince
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCCvRYabILs
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>>96837086
>train
>treads

>aos conversion
>just a 40k model with random aos bits attached
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>>96837086
I'm the first to make fun of vince "my feeguild are from chamon" venturella's conversions but this one is pretty cute
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>>96837161
Is that 40k tractor even for sale anymore? I remember people would kitbash stanks out of them
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>>96837100
>just a 40k model with random aos bits attached
The venturella special
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Wait, big Waaaagh is PtG only?
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>>96836099
I like to think of chamon as the zone from stalker.
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>>96837231
The army of renown? It shouldn’t be.
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>>96837231
It's in the battletome, but you gotta use an army of renown to do it. Iirc the way they're trying to balance it is to make sure you have equal ironjawz and kruleboyz regiment leaders or something like that.
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Hey porn commission guy, after reading the HoH book, got a commission idea for you
> Promising young chorf daemon smith
> She is a natural at controlling magic and clearly destined for greatness, clearly blessed by HASHUT
> About to start apprenticeship
> Rival clan calls in a Wage of Toil her great great great grandfather signed with Ashen Eldar priesthood for a tithe of women for two centuries service
> Promising young sorceress is ordered to service the BVLL Centaurs and Announced Sentinels as a royal whore
> Gradually mind broken by BVLL cock
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What units do you think need a new model versions atm?
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>>96837416
I loathe gooners.
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I am never painting another fucking Plaguebearer. I've painted 48 of the fuckers and I am so fucking done oh my god.
40 Plaguebearers.
Slimux.
Grandfather's Gardeners.
3 Plague Drones.

No more, please...
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>>96837416
bull centaurs are castrated at birth, they have nothing down there, anon, check the models
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>>96837450
>>96833008
Why are you trying so hard to push this retarded piece of headcanon that's never mentioned anywhere in the lore you spaz?
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My Stormbringer thing arrived. I guess 3-5 business days was right after all.
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>>96837431
just the demons in general, but tzeentch demons the most.
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does Belakor the master of ambition, shadows, secrets, subterfuge, and traitors have any cool lore involving Tzeench, the master of ambition, fire, secrets, subterfuge, and traitors?
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>>96837519
>does Belakor the master of ambition, shadows, secrets, subterfuge, and traitors have any cool lore
no
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>>96837450
Lmao nothing about being castrated in the book fag.
The BVLL will ravage what it pleases
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>>96837519
He has an exiled Tzeentch daemon that loves to set fires and burn shit working for him and during the siege of Vindicarum Big B lets him go nuts and torch the place.
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>>96837457
it's on the models
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>>96837530
>This model has no dick ergo they have no dick in lore
I was wrong, you aren't a spaz, you're a drooling retard. Neck yourself immediately and rid the world of the burden that is your fucking life.
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>>96837416
I mean neat! but I feel like you've just written a short story... make me a pdf or doc with reffs for poses and I can keep it in mind next time I get my dward lady comm'd.
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>>96837431
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WarCom did the bullbot a disservice by not properly previewing its cute widdle tail.
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>>96837661
If that hobgrot had some actual clothes on that'd be the sickest shit ever.
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>>96837600
Aren't bloodletters on the things and dudes on the things 1 kit?
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>>96837694
why didn't these fags add a small flame at the end of the tail?
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>>96837728
no
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>>96837661
>kruleboy unit concept
>weapons that don't fit hobs
>redundancy with other gobs
4/10
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>>96837750
>>weapons that don't fit hobs
Base throws granades around, why would rider have a gun?
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>>96837765
because it would have grenades, not guns
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>>96837730
If he had a hole there you'd molest him
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>>96837431
Khorne mortals, most daemons, chaos spawns
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>>96837773
What weird ass projection is that even?



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