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I hope one of the AU boxes focuses on the Clan Homeworlds
>>96836146the anime one was previewed with a Timber Wolf iirc
>>96836146I want an AU where the SLDF doesn't go so insane.
>>96836150
>>96836151That's Gothic, actually. Only a 3rd of the SLDF fucks off with Kerensky. A significant portion of it sticks around and allows Blake/Toyama to hold the Hegemony together as a sixth successor state.
MRM-10 vs Large Laser tradeoffs, options, and use cases.
>>96836187Not really. Empires Aflame probably ha the most "normal" of the SLDF in that they aren't furies or tech priest wannabes
Time to roll for the Ghost vs Ghouls Halloween grudge match!Using https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zdswz4c2avek6oing7pyk/3028-3057-Random-Assignment-Rarity-Tables-10.64.pdf?rlkey=s8ywj7tonnw87cgn1n2n7bf0b&e=3&dl=0 to determine units.Running on the 30/40/20/10 distribution as in Battleforce. So do a "dice+2d1000" with the first die being your weight and second being the vehicle you get. 1-300 = Light301-700 = Medium701-900 = Heavy901+ = AssaultGhosts (Comstar) 2x Mech Level II's - use the Star League Regular Army 2750, mechs only.12 slotsGhouls (Pirates) 1x Combined Arms Company - use Mercenary/Periphery General 3028 either mechs or vehicles**12 slots**vehicle rolls have been given a modifier for skill dies this occasion just to give them more of a chance if some mad anons decide to go for them.>How do I determine skill?See attached. Roll a "dice+4d6" with first two being added up to determine experience with the third being gunnery skill and fourth being piloting skill.**for vehicles apply a +2 modifier to skill dies, so for example say you roll your 4d6 and get 2, 5, 2, 5, first two means you've got a regular but you add a +2 to each of the skill dies so, 2+2 = gunnery 4 and 5+2 = piloting 3>Rerolls?Yes for skill but only one and you have to keep the result meaning you can in fact roll worse!>Will there be balance applied?Not really no, this is mainly done for fun with the randomness meant to make things more interesting.>I'm a namefag can I join?No. Aim is to keep things focused on the characters anons create, not the anons themselves.>When does this start?My intention was to aim for Halloween itself but due to time commitments its likely going to be next weekend.>How does this run?I'll be using megamek and princess AI on a random 34x32 map size for practicality reasons. As entertaining as it would be renting a hall and flying anons halfway across the world for a real match I don't have the time nor the resources for such a thing.
Rolled 245, 94 = 339 (2d1000)>>96836368Declaring for the Ghouls, Donald Butler Holdfast!
Rolled 2, 5, 1, 4 = 12 (4d6)>>96836393Looks like Steiner Salvage. Shall I roll another d1000 on the Steiner light table?
>>96836368What's the fluff this time?
Rolled 386, 395 = 781 (2d1000)>>96836368Oh hell yeah, I'm getting in on this!Declaring for Ghosts, Blake guide my dice
Rolled 5, 3, 1, 2 = 11 (4d6)>>96836667and now rolling for pilot skill set
IDK what to do with IS half of alpha strike box. I have AGOAC split between Fedrats and grorious CCAF but I can't really think of way of splitting them up nicely between the two, and the clans half will serve as start of Escorpion Empire force. Could start a merc company, maybe buy mercenaries or some forcepack to pad things out but then other two forces will remain small. And I have neither idea for mydudes or huge affinity for any big name group from the setting.
>>96836676>>96836667oof those rolls, so looks like my boy is a regular at 4/6, running a WVE-5N. Feels like this guy is more zeal than skill, but that's pretty fitting for Comguard I guess kek.
huh
Rolled 640, 256 = 896 (2d1000)>>96836368Rolling for a Pirate
>>96836128Did someone say critical hit?
Rolled 1, 5, 1, 5 = 12 (4d6)>>96836760Float like a butterfly, sting like a... Stinger.
>>96836774Looks like a 4/4 Stinger pilot, I'm going to name him 'Mad' Bob Cutler.
>>96836754Not sure if I dig the Akuma's head redesign but glad the rokurokubi has sword options. Also pleased that the chimera has an optional missile cover
>>96836368>>I'm a namefag can I join?>No. Aim is to keep things focused on the characters anons create, not the anons themselves.Not like you can just remove the name you use and post anonymously
I am confused about LoS. The BJ-1 is standing on a Level 1 Hex, in front of is it a level 2 Hex with light woods (which are then 2+2=Level 4 in LoS terms). The light woods it encounters before the hill are on Level 0 (0+2=2) so they don't count (right?). Then there's a level 1 hex with light woods (1+2=3) which does count. Finally, there's another light woods at Level 0 which shouldn't count.So why is LoS blocked if only 2 light woods are intervening?
>>96836842(Also forgot to mention BJ-1's LoS level is 3 since Level 1+Mech Height is 2=3, and only the 4 and 3 lightwoods are equal or higher to that)
>>96836486Pirates go trick and treating a bit too hard and upset a local telephone company. It's a WIP.
>>96836401Yes
>>96836842>>96836851The woods adjacent to the target counts, so you have 3 intervening light woods.
>>96836883Ah! Right, thank you!
Wow, how can all Akuma variants be shit
Rolled 275 (1d1000)>>96836871Here we go then.
>>96836813>Not like you can just remove the name you use and post anonymouslyI think that's the point. Anyone can just drop their namefagging for a bit to participate and keep things focused on the scenario. But if you're so far up your own ass that you'd rather complain about needing to drop your name for all of a day because you crave attention, then you're just telling the whole thread you're not worth bothering with anyway.
>>96836950So that's a Wasp-1A for Donald Butler Holdfast rating at 4/5.
>>96836949Are they? The later ones have a Heavy PPC and the MRM equipped with Apollo. That seems decent enough.
Dear Blake I hate special armors. FF and maybe Stealth are the only ones I can tolerate
>>96836187>>96836263I meant an SLDF-in-Exile that doesn't become the Clans.Maybe Alex K dies, there's a Second Exodus, and Andery takes the opportunity to try and establish a new society on less marginal worlds, with less conflict because the people who went this time knew better what they were getting into. They start a federal militarized state, but its Prussia and not whatever the fuck the Clans were. They reclaim the Pentagon worlds but are largely peaceful and happy. They probably eventually Invade the IS because why not.
>>96837122Level 3 was a mistake
How do they even fix and maintain that only energy shield in universe in Steiner Stadium anyway
>>96837193Star League magic. Same way you maintain an HPG. As long as the main core is good, you can replace mundane shit like coolant and caps and corroding power cables. But one day it will die and they will be totally fucked.
>>96837217Not if you keep saying the right prayers.
>>96836754Is there a closer look of the akumas head?
Rolled 187, 87 = 274 (2d1000)>>96836368Going to roll for Comstar, I've never gotten anything good before, but I'm feeling lucky today!
>>96836957It's just weird to codify such a non issue that it makes me question whether the op is the one with the need for attention or is just that much of a control freak that they need to fail to exclude people
Rolled 5, 4, 5, 5 = 19 (4d6)>>96837376Wow, a '99 mercury, I think my grandpa had one of those! Look at all that fancy tech! It's like a faster locust! Hopefully i get a good pilot to go with this lostech mech!
>>96837392A 3/4 pilot! This pilot is going to be Colleen O'Clery, and it'll be her treat to put an end to any pirate tricks, assuming the MASC system holds up!
Is there a use case for well armored but under armed fast assaults?
>>96837436Physical beatdowns. See the Charger 1A1 or the OG Banshee.
>>96837436Bullying light Mechs
>>96837466The charger is not well armored.
>>96837556Armored enough for what it does.
>>96837436>>96837556If that's the game you're playing, then shit like the Great Turtle just makes an excellent fire magnet to protect the rest of your force.GTR-2 4 LYFE!
>>96837466Can't the Charger perform a 60pt+ charge attack if I recall correctly?
>>96837565It fails the hunchback test.
>>96837619The Hunchback fails the "loses initiative against a Charger" test. It's peak bully material.
>>96837611Why take the malus and the damage to yourself when you can kick the legs out of most anything or punch out the back of ammo bomb machines?
>>96837627>eats 26pts of damage and falls over before the hunchback boots it in the head.
>>96837635>Thinks that it's not get behind the Hunchback with the superior movement and breaks its leg with only a single arm ML able to respond.This is why you are bad at Battletech.
>>96837632It seems like it'd be a laugh?
>>96837686Sure, like DFA, but you don't do that sort of thing as your first choice. That's late game cripple fight shit.
>>96837632Because the Charger does the most charging damage possible without oversized engines but is beat on those attacks by lots of other assaults
>>96836982NTA but I dont like how pretty much every design is an eclectic grab bag with one of everything because I have to take too many range bands into account. Its got a TSM loadout in a non-tsm mech.
Rolled 347, 434 = 781 (2d1000)>>96836368Aight, roll me up for a Ghoul Vehicle!
Rolled 1, 5, 1, 2 = 9 (4d6)>>96838029A Vedette, hey? Could be worse. Oh who am I kidding. Rolling for skills.
Rolled 3, 6, 4, 3 = 16 (4d6)>>96838055Fucking OOF. Rerolling skills.
>>96836188large laser: largeMRM10: garbage
>>96836774??? This roll is a CN9-A Centurion640 = medium256 = Centurion
>>96838029>>96838062Okay, much better. A Vedette with a 3/4 pilot. Lonnie Ferguson, reporting for ToT as ordered. Let's try not to scratch the paint on my baby this time.
Rolled 349, 870 = 1219 (2d1000)>>96836368YAY! GHOULIES!
Oh would you look at that, Manic and the faggot are burning a thread to diceroll variables in a pathetic masturbatory vidya game.
Rolled 1, 5, 1, 5 = 12 (4d6)>>96838143skillies?
>>96837639>gets behind the hunchback>moving 5/8Nope, it's eating at least two turns of fire in that case.
>>96838152Ghouls.4/4, medium mech 870. Can someone check the mech list for me? callsign:
>>96838199>It must approach me from the front with no coverHaha, no.
>>96838203You're piloting a TBT-5N Trebuchet, my fellow pirate.
>>96837632Depending on your piloting, you aren't taking a malus on a charge, and the return damage is pretty insignificant. Charges area also a lot harder to stay standing after. A 60 damage charge forces the opponent to make a +3 check to stay standing.
>>96838246Multiples of 20 stacking piloting roll numbers is an optional rule.
>>96838258Good thing I'm not referencing that rule. Charges impose a base +2, which stacks with the +1 from taking 20 damage. With stacking damage multiplies, it's much worse.
>>96838206>the hunchback must remain perfectly still and allow me to flank it and come within 8 hexes of movement without firing.
>>96838263Isn't that 2 separate rolls? Like 20 damage + a kick is 2 separate rolls?
>>96838271At 4/6, you just cannot dictate the engagement at all. Sorry, fag. Play more real games.
>>96838145Shut up nuln, nobody likes your dogshit paint schemes.
>>96838280Sounds like you're just bad if you let yourself be corraled by a mech that's 5/8.
>>96838273It is two rolls, but all piloting modifiers apply to all piloting rolls made in a phase. For the kick example, it's two rolls at +1.
>>96836368>Team:Ghouls:>Name: Bones "Bones" Boneson.4/4Trebuchet 5N (The Wild Ride)Abandoned at birth because he was born a skeleton, Bones quickly rose through the ranks of the local Comstar garrison forces. One day, the garrison commander notified them that their family dental plan was getting cut. This sent Bones into a homicidal rage, the thought of having to pay for braces for his 14 rapidly growing children. From that day forward, Bones has been fervently fulfilling a freasom fued against his foes.
>>96838292That you don't understand how a 5/8 can get where it wants with only a couple rounds of won initiative vs. a 4/6 just shows how retarded you are.
>>96838286At least nuln has mechs with paint on them, manic (I can't I'm ranking nuln over someone else, look at what your faggotry has brought about)
>>96838145Oh no. Let's mourn all the serious discussion that is not being had.
>>96838388Or we could laugh about how pathetic and lonely you are that you have to do this.
You're an inner sphere general facing off against an internet-brained self-insert who has created an army consisting exclusively of tricked out high tmm tarcomped pulse jumpers, turret-tech gauss and iATM boat assault mechs, cheap trucks with m-pods or rockets, heavy asf with air-fuel bombs and artillery. He has a set of implausible factories to maintain his force in the field so you can't simply attrite him, and you're expected to be reasonably cost effective. What conventional forces do you try to bring against the forces of cheese?
>>96838505Savannah Master spam.Nothing else can register in the same tier of cheese.
>>96838505Equal BV in Savannah Masters. Just bury the board in them and watch him die of rapid-onset premature aging when he realizes it'll be days between his moves.
>>96838505Savannah Masters?
>>96838505>>96838526>>96838531>>96838533Three in less than a minute!
Favourite Draconian mech?
>>96838604Hatamoto or Quickdraw
>>96838505Wouldn't bother. The game is about having fun and if explaining his force takes a 3 paragraph essay, I'm not interested.simple 4v4 introtech and little need to reference tables and rules will actually get a game over with in about an hour.
Where's the line between blindsiding your opponent and setting yourself up to be hard countered?
>>96838604O Bakemono
>>96838625>will actually get a game over with in about an hour.If your goal is to just get it over with fast so you can move on to something else, then you can always just skip playing the game at all.
>>96838646>being held hostage by some guy that wants to leverage every rules in the collective manualsNah, I'm good. I want to have fun. Not have a back and forth waiting for him to resolve 45 minutes of dice rolls and table lookups per turn.And a 4v4 with 2 competent players can easily be played in an hour and more likely already decided in half that. It's a game, dude. Not a lifestyle.
>>96838668>It's a game, dude. Not a lifestyle.Go back.
>>96838685Blessings of Blake upon you.
Gonna need a QRD on the Huron Warrior
>>96838604Tenshi because I like it.
>>96838730it's based and capellan (which makes it double based)
>>96838730https://youtu.be/b8tWXHgzvoc?si=PYedPqc91vXUkUSh
>>96838533>>96838531>>96838526If you want to add some diversity to your Savannah Master spam, you can add some Hover APCs or Heavy Hover APCs with LRMs or SRMs. Hell, if you feel like splurging an extra 115 BV, you can even get an LAC5 on the Heavy Hover.
>>96838604Charger's always a good time
>>96836128Is the pilot supposed to be that tiny? The Whitworth's head is the size of a small house. Meanwhile the Pixie is five tons bigger and the pilot seat barely fits in its head.
Banshee 3E or Trebuchet 7K?
>>96838893There's been horrible quality control in art direction over the last 50 years. Including disagreement on how big mechs are in general.
What IS a cowl? How does it add armor but not add weight?>like the cyclopsJust looks like every other head
>>96838893I wish there was a digital version of these new blueprints.
>>96838764>Tenshi is japanese for AngelWhat did the combine mean by this?
>>96839099"We are cringeworthy weeaboos"
>>96839077Do you not see the bonnet?
>>96839111literally every mech with a head on its shoulders looks like it's wearing a helmet of some kind. what makes that one special?
>>96839117furthermore, what about the heads that are basically noses on center torsos? Why are you able to hit them from behind when you'd obviously need to pass through the CT?
>>96839127>anon discovers gameplay abstraction
>>96839141Wait till he gets to infantry.
>>96838145I haven't participated in one of these for months, asshole...>>96838335And I've at least painted ONE mech.>>96839099>>96839107>"We are cringeworthy weeaboos"*Cruel Angel's Thesis Intensifies*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8ozVkIkr-g
>>96838764>remember, no dual Gauss
Do these companies make any sense?
>>96838730The Cappies copied the Dracs homework and made a mech in 3055 that has 11 single heat sinks and a weapon that generates 12 heat by itself. You're paying 1500bv for an armored gauss rifle essentially.
Thoughts on Sneede's Irregulars?
>>96839657You look like a 3060 ex-Feddie from the Chaos March.
>>96839657The lance names are retarded. Why are your biggest shit kickers in the "support" lance and your ranged support a heavy battle? Why is a beemer wasted on a niche use unit for cqb of all things? Why even have a dedicated urban lance are you not planning on using them for other environs and vice versa?
>>96839786Oh, this mekhq flechs knockoff actually assigns them automatically based on composition, and I left them because I was actually a bit curious what it bases it off off. They don't really mean anything to me. I was mostly asking if this is intelligent way to split and expand AGOAC and Alpha Strike boxes into company per side, Liao and Davion respectively in this case.
>>96839768I'm pretty sure my uncle dated her.
>>96839821Make the Rifleman a 2N and commit to the PPC lance
>>96838335Nuln is a cowardly nogames so his painted minis are just paperweights
>>96839821The mekhq one lets you switch ammo and that's 10x better than Flechs. They do need to format battle armour to print on one sheet instead of separate ones
Damm, there were no hidden/illegimate children among the Great Houses in late Succ War era? Really?
>>96840501I can think of at least one
>>96837933Well it is basically a Drac Atlas, so the same problems you saw in that feature in it more or less
>>96840583Who, Kitsune?
>>96840501Isis Marik was a bastard, Theodore's legitimate kids were kept hidden at first plus he had a secret bastard, Joshua Steiner-Davion kind of counts.
>>96840634No, Isis.Also holy shit this new captcha is retarded. Only type characters with circles and they all have fucking squares or rectangles.
Rolled 441, 641 = 1082 (2d1000)>>96836368LETS GO GHOSTS, SCORE SOME FAKKIN GOALS
Rolled 6, 2, 5, 6 = 19 (4d6)>>96840833Call me Khamsin because I'm the desert wind babyyyyyy
>>968408453/4 Dervish 6M. Not bad.
>>96839657Just pointing out that every mech there except the wraith is level 1 tech, so it stands out a bit.
Rolled 585 (1d1000)>>96836368Rollin for ghostspilot is Wilhelm "Kaiser" Billings
Rolled 225 (1d1000)>>96840975sorry only rolled 1
Rolled 4, 4, 2, 2 = 12 (4d6)>>96840975>>96840988Hunchback very nice
Rolled 577, 698 = 1275 (2d1000)>>96836368Rolling for Ghosts — Logan Carmichael
Clint 2-3U, what an upgrade, pulse laser sniper jumpy guy for only 1k BV? What is there not to like?
>>96840975>>96840988>>96840996okay so if i did the math correctly he's a 4/6 Hunchback 4G
Can someone rate my Champion build?Mass: 60 tons Equipment: Crits Mass Int. Struct.: 99 pts Standard 0 6.00Engine: 300 Fusion 6 19.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0Heat Sinks: 11 Single 0 1.00Gyro: 4 3.00Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 4 0.00Armor Factor: 169 Standard 0 11.00 Internal Armor Structure Value Head: 3 9 Center Torso: 20 25 Center Torso (Rear): 15 L/R Side Torso: 14 20/20 L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8 L/R Arm: 10 12/12 L/R Leg: 14 20/20 Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass ---------------------------------------------------------1 Medium Laser CT 3 1 1.002 Medium Laser LT 6 2 2.001 SRM 6 LT 4 15 3 4.00 (Ammo Locations: 1 LT) 1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.001 Autocannon/5 RT 1 20 5 9.00 (Ammo Locations: 1 RT) ---------------------------------------------------------TOTALS: 17 5 17.00Crits and Tons Left: 39 Calculated Factors Total Cost: 5,032,000 C-BillBattle Value (BV1):962Battle Value (BV2):1275
Rolled 1, 4, 2, 4 = 11 (4d6)>>96841017Logan Carmichael pilots a KTO-19 Kintaro
Was VSD pretty much the protagonist of BT?
Rolled 1, 5, 1, 5 = 12 (4d6)>>96841051Hmm going for the reroll
>>96841037Kinda boring
>>96841017>>96841051>>96841085Ghosts — Logan Carmichael (4/4) — KTO-19 Kintaro>a wise reroll
>>96841088Boring is good, boring means it can be thrown into a lance without care.
I want to fuck the wyvern
Ghosts (So Far)>>96836667[Name Missing] (4/6) WVE-5N Wyvern (45 tons)>>96837376Colleen O’Cleary (3/4) MCY-99 Mercury (20 tons)>>96840833“Khamsin” (3/4) DV-6M Dervish (55 tons)>>96840975Wilhelm “Kaiser” Billings (4/6) HBK-4G Hunchback (50 tons)>>96841051Logan Carmichael (4/4) KTO-19 Kintaro (55 tons)
Rolled 438, 419 = 857 (2d1000)>>96836368hoisting the black flag of the Ghouls
>>96841172>[Name Missing] (4/6) WVE-5N Wyvern (45 tons)Let's go with Max "Jumpman" Hassan for the name
Rolled 2, 3, 4, 5 = 14 (4d6)>>96841282… and skills
Rolled 4, 4, 4, 4 = 16 (4d6)>>96841300… and rerolling
>>96841311Looks like Vedette 3/4Honesty “Honey” Wallace
Ghouls (So Far)>>96836393Donald Butler Holdfast (4/5) WSP-1A Wasp (20 tons)>>96836760“Mad” Bob Cutler (4/4) STG-3R Stinger (20 tons)>>96838029Lonnie Ferguson (3/4) Vedette Medium Tank (50 tons)>>96838143Bones “Bones” Boneson (4/4) TBT-5N Trebuchet (50 tons)>>96841282Honesty “Honey” Wallace (3/4) Vedette Medium Tank (50 tons)
>>96841290Jumpman? why not “Shock Collar”?
Rolled 566, 303 = 869 (2d1000)>>96836368Let's go Ghouls! Let's see a good pirate mech for Willie Snakebeard.
Rolled 3, 3, 4, 6 = 16 (4d6)>>96841494Oh boy, a blowjob. How well is this BJ gonna go?
>>96841498A 4/4 BJ-1. Could certainly do worse for a pirate.
When putting together tanks, should the turrets always be pointing straight forward, or should they be turned a little?
>>96841513whatever you like best, I like mine straight ahead (see the vedette a few posts above)
>>96841400Ah that took me a minute kek. i wasn't even thinking of that Hassan, I just wanted it to rhyme and still sound foreign-ish
>>96841513I usually just do straight forward, but in the rare cases where I'm making more than two, I start turning their turrets. I never do anything more drastic than 90° and try to avoid doubling up on directions at that point, but that's just me.
Rolled 2, 4, 1, 1 = 8 (4d6)>>96836368Ghouls, I guess? Bone-biter will be the name.
Rolled 4, 3, 2, 3 = 12 (4d6)>>96841628Gonna re-roll, shit's the worst ones out there.
Rolled 794, 486 = 1280 (2d1000)>>96841628>>96841639Now mech
>>96841642>A Warhammer 6RIf it isn't the skill rolls that fuck me, it's the mech or tanks roll that does.
>testing colors on spare free marine minisWill the left one be too light for SLDF green?Also, the right one was supposed to be 'olive drab' but damn it's more of tan
Would a nuclear armed Urbie be a good objective?
>>96841941A classic one
Why is there this insistence on torso twisting not affecting anything except firing weapons? I enjoyed being able to use torso twisting defensively in the videogames (example: to protect my damaged CT, I could torso twist to show my Left Arm to the enemy instead). Is it just to simplify things, or is there a deeper reason I'm not grasping?
>>96842048It's because you're an autistic vidya-tard. If it weren't for that fact you wouldn't have ever thought about this more than once.
>>96842111I'll take your answer to mean it's the former
>>96842048Mostly it's abstraction. The whole "A round is 10 seconds and you're probably not doing that the whole time."
>>96841379More Ghouls (seven so far)>>96841494Willie Snakebeard (4/4) BJ-1 Blackjack (45 tons)>>96841628“Bone-Biter” (4/5) WHM-6R Warhammer (70 tons)
Why does the new Akuma's head look like an unlicensed Chinese bargain bin FNAF toy? It is genuinely funny how bad it is
Is this what an interface cockpit is?
>>96842237I think the old one looks like a weird jester, but they're supposed to be more like an Oni mask.
>>96842237it’s accurate
>>96842260I haven't seen the current model, and shimmy can be hit or miss for me, but this seems pretty good imo.
>>96841952The nuclear Urbie even has 2 nukes and a laser. The only thing it doesn't have is the machineguns. Actually, was NEA trying to do that when he made the nuclear Urbie?
>>96836368>can I join?Good man. No namefag has ever contributed positively to these threads. They're constitutionally incapable of coming up with worthwhile characters for MM battles. Everything has to be about them at all times, and we don't need that vibe for this project. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
what a melodramatic faggot proving anon’s point
>>96842256Only if you can fit a horse in there.
>>96842374It's especially proving that the only way a namefag can come up with a worthwhile character is by stealing it from another anon
>>96842382If you think that's actually NEA I have a bridge to sell you. It's a good price. You'll like it. Very good bridge.
>>96842310>NEA trying to do that when he made the nuclear Urbie?He never made it anyway. That's just a story and there's no proof he was involved at all. Namefags always lie.
your forgot to remove the name for that post
Is the Akuma closer to the Atlas or the Banshee if I'm going to use it as count-as in pre-Invasion?
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>>96842422holy shit are you 40 or something? your JPG files must be from a decade and a half ago.
>>96842440Everyone over 25 on this site needs to die already
>>96842440I can crack open the brian cache if you really want
>>96838769>>96839744Wait I thought the Huron Warrior was a Canopus mech?
>>96842468It's made in the Federated Commonwealth, which makes the choice of SHS even weirder. Loren Jaffray the 'Death Commando' gives one to the Northwind Highlanders during the Operation GUERRERO bullshit, but that's probably just Sun-Tzu T-posing about how his people managed to steal one from the FedCom to start with.
>>96842397>That's just a story and there's no proof he was involved at all.Except all those witnesses...>>96842444>I can crack open the brian cache if you really wantDEW IT!
So if the nuke damage is dealt in 5dmg clusters, there's a chance for a mech surviving even when it got directly hit?
>>96842515>Except all those witnesses...AIslop doesn't count as proof
>>96842538No wonder the Cincy Group is so good at BattleTech, THEY'RE AI!!!
My poor uziel was supposed to be a 2025 release, we don't even have concept art yet :(
>>96842485It's always been presented as Capellan, likely the writers forgot the Caps lost Corey in the 4SW but they do get it back in Guerrero. But also don't forget the Enforcer 5D boasts 12 SHS and an ERLL, it's not all cool running for the FedCom either.
>>96842611Everything is postponed one year it seems
>>96842558Was the Urbie nuke only a 5 hex radius? That's a pretty low yield nuke.
>>96836368So just a quick update and apologies to anyone I missed out. Thanks to the anons keeping track that was a help.Ghosts (Comstar)WVE-5N Wyvern Max "Jumpman" Hassan 4/6MCY-99 Mercury Colleen O'Clery 3/4DV-6M Dervish Khamsin 3/4HBK-4G Hunchback Wilhelm "Kaiser" Billings 4/6KTO-19 Kintaro Logan Carmichael 4/4(7 slots left)Ghouls (Pirates)WSP-1A Wasp Donald Butler Holdfast 4/5CN9-A Centurion 'Mad' Bob Cutler 4/4 - you actually rolled a Centurion not a Stinger.Vedette Lonnie Ferguson 3/4TBT-5N (The Wild Ride) Trebuchet Bones "Bones" Boneson.4/4 - I assuming this is the anon that rolled the Treb earlierVedette Honesty “Honey” Wallace 3/4BJ-1 Blackjack Willie Snakebeard.4/4WHM-6R Warhammer Bone-biter 4/5 (5 slots left)
>>96842611No love for metals? The Uziel 2S resculpt from IWM seems pretty serviceable and has everyone's favorite: 2 pepsi, 1 srm6
>>96842256Virtual reality pod + direct neural interface, basically just pilot a Prometheus
>>96842394NTA but that's not far off the tone I've come to associate with him.
Rolled 122, 543 = 665 (2d1000)>>96836368Let's go for C* to even it up. Hopefully another heavy.
Rolled 420, 922 = 1342 (2d1000)>>96842845>>96836368Declaring for the Ghosts, Giuseppe Bartolo (too few wops in Btech)
Rolled 6, 2, 2, 3 = 13 (4d6)>>96843302Annd skills.
Rolled 4, 4, 6, 4 = 18 (4d6)>>96843288A mongoose 66? I am cursed to only roll 8/12/0s for every one of these. At least it has armor this time.
>>96843313Looks like a 3/5 Mongoose MON-66 pilot. Let's name this guy... Cristobal Forsyth-Templeton.
Hull breaches / flooding components is not in AGOAC, is it?
would you agree that battletech is a beer & pretzels game with its rules at its most basic? is it still far too crunchy for that?
>>96842845You're correct about the treb.Noticing the rest of the roster isn't very Halloweeny. Shouldn't there be werewolves and a vampire and stuff?
>>96844025Was very much a spur of the moment thing. Maybe next Halloween.
>>96843910I think it's pretty casual, yeah. I don't get why everyone seems to take it so seriously when TACs & headshots are so prevalent.Last game I played, within 3 turns of eachother...>Gladiator got whomped for 45 damage from a Templar OI, CT crits check into boxcars.>Wraith got SSRM6'd, 2 missiles roll TACs, both into CT, both roll boxcars.>Falconer got headshot by a 15 pointer.and up until that I had been out playing my opponent.Like, it's a fun game, don't get me wrong. But it's all just casual fun. >>96844103People can just make silly bios for their pilots? -w-''
Does this Gothic color scheme match an actual Capellan Confederation unit or is it just a generic Liao looking color scheme that's being used to represent the Golden Unity?
>>96844240I think dark gray and green are Death Commandos?
>>96844240That's about as gothic as a halloween slutty cat.
>>96844240That's actually kind of cool, is there a drac analogue in gothic and do they get a unique thematic sculpt?
>>96844240Green and black are often seen among the cappies, but this one in particular strikes me as a fusion of Warrior House Dai Da Chi and the bronze of the 4th Tau Ceti Rangers.
>>96844324The Atlas in the box set comes with five different heads and capes to represent each of the five houses. The Atlas in the salvage boxes however come prebuilt as one of the five. The youtube video shows each of them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzbf6nqoDKQ
>>96844369Also those little bas relief sections. It's a neat bit of customization and I hope they reuse the idea once in a while.
>>96844429You're going to love the upcoming pony mechs
>>96844429Since you seem to have the box can you tell me what the novella that comes with it is about?
>>96844448It's about Steiners losing and then trying to reclaim a world, and their response to unexpected complications.
>>96844472Oh that's nice since I was disappointed with the Gothic Shrapnel not having any Ironclad focused stories.
>>96844429I just realized there's no Unistar Atlas. I wonder if they'll go full gacha and put one in the salvage boxes.
>>96838859Banana.I will call his pilot Charles (iykyk).
>>96844507Huh yeah there should have been a USA Atlas since it is a major power in the Gothic universe.
>>96844429More options in general would be great. Like the Thunderbold in the davion box.
>>96844429Speaking of which, I saw this picture in the primer and then checked the models and they all have clearly delineated peaked sections to fit those sculptures, they're just not pre-drilled like the Atlas. The Rifleman's thigh peaks are even slightly relieved already.
>>96844507>>96844528Probably because the King Crab is the iconic Unistar assault.
>>96844585>>96844429I don't really care for gothic, but i think these designs could be cool for High Nobles and rich mech warriors, like some Lyran Social General who wants to get clout over his Steiner boss, so he syruts around in his pimped out war hammer
>>96844619I think the designs would be cool for a pirate faction.
Has playing the video game changed the mechs you like? I started BT earlier this year when i impulse bought the starter box, I really liked the black knight, warhammer and Highlandrr, but now thr Centurion and Dragon are my favroutes
>>96844644The Rifleman is a mech that i found objectively bad but then i used it and realized it can shit out damage until it dies or cooks itself, and it's cheap.
>The clan light mech spends the entire game jumping between two heavy woods hexes that are 7+ apart.Incredibly tiresome, I love trying to roll 11+ because I didn't get the memo I was supposed to only bring pulse lasers.
>>96844664Set fire to the woods.
>>96842536Nuke centers do infinite damage
Any anon got their hands on Scouring Sands and can share their impression? Thinking of getting it for minis alone but I'm not quite sure yet, wondering how is the solo campaign thingie
>>96844672"We're not using those optional rules."
>>96844619>>96844638Except they're a different, larger scale and mechs already don't fit nice in adjacent hexes.
>>96845131I mean, I've seen people post comparisons and they're barely bigger. Besides there are already issues with mechs in adjacent hexes given some of the poses for regular mechs (like the Crusader or King Crab).
Not sure I follow the logic here.
>>96836151I'd rather have one where the Second Star League annihilates the clans. Some integrate into the sphere and swear loyalty to houses, some flee to other parts of or deeper into the periphery, and some are just wiped out.Then when the Fedcom Civil War and collapse of the Second Star League happens you'd have a battle royale fifth succession war instead of the Word of Blake Jihad.>Kuritans have the Nova Cats>Jade Falcons end up ostensibly but disloyal vassals of the Lyrans>Rasalhague Dominion ends up more or less the same>Wolves are caught in the middle>Some clans decide to take the opportunity to revolt and carve out their own fully independent realms>Word of Blake carries out their Jihad but isn't OP for no reason but also doesn't have everyone ganging up on them>Most homeworld clans invade and either subjugate or integrate with periphery statesHonestly some of my favourite "current era" factions are the mixed clan/periphery or spheroid states. Rasalhague Dominion, Raven Alliance, and Scorpion Empire.Another option is to have the clans do what the Star Adders wanted and stop with the bidding shit and go balls to the wall towards conquest. Clans conquer Terra, DC and LC are either annihilated or left with only a remnant of worlds, and the victorious clans begin a fifth succession war as nobody wants the other to be Ilclan and FWL and CC try to push their own claims now that the Inner Sphere collapsed. I could see some fun shit here.
>>96844864If your at my table, they are not optional.
>>96845469Fox patrol was supposed to be the new Gray Death Legion for young readers. Unfortunately it is written by a disney star wars sycophant who is more interested in shoehorning current year issues in his books regardless how little sense they make in future of battletech. Also his obsession with sex makes him less than ideal for anything aimed at kids.He actually wanted to write shadowrun but someone at CGL decided he will be the most valuable Battletech writer they have and they push his books more than any other author.
>>96845875in xir defense, no one actually reads this slop. GDL slop is barely passable as literature so the bar is already below young adult.
>>96845875>He actually wanted to write shadowrun but someone at CGL decided he will be the most valuable Battletech writerSame thing happened with "community manager" Rem.Why does CGL do that? Is ShadowRun such a bomb?
>>96845469>improve minority-representation>>96845875We are talking about the setting that featured the Minobus and Allards and even characters that were explicitly less than six foot tall. Nigga just dropping the corpo speak there.
>>96845469What logic aren’t you following?Fox Patrol is structured around being accessible to new customers including those who have not been interested in BattleTech in the past>it’s also not very good
>>96843700No: it's one of the few core mech bits removed from there, along with dumping ammo and a few other bits.
in the free Fox Marauders story (Gothic version of Fox Patrol), main character Katie calls the homosexual ex-lovers in her lance “her chaos gays”
>>96846076>Is ShadowRun such a bomb?I'm not sure but from what I've heard a lot of people hate the current edition for both mechanic and lore reasons. Even if it's not a bomb Battletech probably makes more money due to the fact they sell miniatures while Shadowrun only has books and shit like mugs and shirts.
What are some good pirate colors? Black, grey and rust?
>>96846201Overhead doesn't compare. Selling books vs selling books + tiny plastic crap. That and what I'm sure is a dystopian nightmare of legalese for who owns what copyright, publishing, and distribution rights. CGL's budget is probably half lawyer retaining fees.
>>96846575Red oxide primer.
I played battletech this weekend BTG, did you?
>>96846692so you finally tried it
>>96845875>He actually wanted to write shadowrun but someone at CGL decided he will be the most valuable Battletech writer they have and they push his books more than any other author.There's no conspiracy.Brian Young writers a lot, writes consistently, hits deadlines, and has decent spelling and grammar.For "game fiction", that's way more important than the actual content of the stories.
>>96846767His greatest masterpiece was the review he wrote for his own book on amazon.
>>96846787That's inconsistent with precisely no part of what I said.
>>96836128Is there a good scenario or mission book for BT? i'm not familiar with the way they have everything set up, but i'm looking for good examples for a lighter wargame my friend and I play.
What mech would he drive?
>>96846692Yes. 4th Succession War. AC/20ed an Awesome in the head with a Hunchback. The rest of the game didn't go as well for me and I ended up conceding. Was a really fun game, lots of maneuvering and reacting, and at least one mech exploring the limits of the heat scale. I fucking love Battletech and am happy my city has a good club.
>>96846884Bask Om would captain a WoB warship.
>>96846884He always struck me as a Banshee 3S type if we're talking Fourth Succession War here?
What is the best place to buy individual models instead of catalyst force packs? I have the game of armored combat, but my friends I play with want Mecha of their own and I wanted to get them both a lance before Christmas. Also how balanced are these lists to each other, circa 3010, if all pilots are around same skill.1. Raven, Cataphract, Vindicator x2.2. Panther, Jenner, Catapult (PPC ver), & Grand Dragon2. Valkyrie, Centurion, Enforcer, Warhammer
>>96847062Ebay is generally $15 a model when you include shipping.
>>96847080Thank you
>>96847062https://www.ebay.com/itm/194886360719?itmmeta=01K8HC8JDTJQYF2QC19E72CJ3S&hash=item2d6021de8f:g:qT0AAOSwmfJiIENeMy go-to guyAlso, Fortresshttps://fortress-miniatures-and-games.myshopify.com/collections/mech-cgl?filter.v.price.gte=&filter.v.price.lte=&sort_by=created-descending
>>96847132Thank you!
>>96842611>>96842726Gotta thank the wise minds over at CGL for pushing cool stuff like this back for the Urbanmech LAM box and (especially) Gothic.
>>96847331If they gave us things we actually want we'd have nothing to look forward to anymore, that's why they make garbage like Gothic to appeal to people who don't even like Battletech.
>>96844644The video games have made me like some mechs more, yeah. MW4 Mercs made me a fan of the Chimera (which was later solidified again once I had a badass one in my BTA 3062 merc company). I had simple but stupidly fun custom build of the Champion in MW5 Mercs. The Dragon Sidewinder custom variant (or "hero" variant) in MW5 Mercs was one of my favorite rides, especially after I tweaked it to my liking. That said, I don't tend to field these mechs on the tabletop. Mechs that are good in the games don't always translate to the table and vice versa.
>>96847352Here's the thing: what do you actually want? More ilKhan? More historical retcons?The devs have no idea what the fuck to do with the "main timeline", so they're exploring other options and having fun. It's not the worst idea.What I'd love is for them to pick one and stick with it, like maybe making more books in the Empires Aflame book, but that would quickly get back to the same problem.
>>96844644Not changed per se, but my love for the Bushwhacker is 1000% from MW3.
>>96837141Or maybe the UniStar Ascendancy tries to go Full Blakist on them instead and rally the rest of the Human Sphere to get in on it?>>96838764Get an ECM suite to hack into enemy 'mech sound systems so that you can force them to listen to the Evangelion OP!
>>96846148>We are talking about the setting that featured the Minobus and Allards and even characters that were explicitly less than six foot tall. Nigga just dropping the corpo speak there.All things considered, he probably means more gay, trans, etc. characters.But also, despite the fact that BT has some non-white people, it could really have many more. That said, a lot of characters don't have any ethnicity listed. This is sort of one of those things where like, "if you assume everyone's white by default, you're the racist, not the setting" (except that the original devs definitely had that in mind). The Minobus and Allards are notably because they're exceptions.BT visual media (computer games most notably, and if they ever make another cartoon or something) can and should and did have a decent amount of racial diversity.
>>96847396Is Unistar Ascendancy ComStar? How does ComStar exist if the Hegemony is still a thing?
>>96847384>It’s not the worst idea.nta but you’re rightand I think, moreover, because it’s almost always steeply diminishing returns after the loss leaderGothic won’t sell as many copies of AGoAC, and that’s obvious right?but it’s also obvious that the umpteenth force pack with ‘mechs basically unknown to even BT fans is going to do orders of magnitude worseI think Aces is their best idea of all that we’ve seen, not just because Lynvander realized so long ago that tabletop gamers often struggle to find people to play games with so it’s be great if they could be as accessible as possible as solo/co-op gamesbut the deeper point is, Aces also has a strong narrative focus: it happens in a certain time and place with certain personalitiesthis is kind of like the novels and the vidya in this sense
>>96847462So in Gothic, only about a third of the SLDF went with Kerensky, and another third dispersed back to the great houses, so that left Blake with the last third and the rump Hegemony. With all that power out in the open, rather than form Comstar as an international communications company, he formed Unistar as the sixth successor state. The HPGs are handled by the successor states, presumably through them nationalizing or squeezing their local branches of the Star League Department of Communications rather than letting all those HPG technicians run off to Unistar space just before the succession wars kicked off.
>>96847504Oh, so it is the Hegemony, it just uses ComStar aesthetics. Got it.
>>96845469I don't really get Fox Patrol in the sense that I'm not sure what they're trying to be. Like, they're mercenaries but they also want to be good guys I guess? But like, they're still mercenaries who get paid to do military operations? Seems contradictory. I get you can have standards, but at the end of the day you're still a war profiteer. It's not like Star Wars where Luke is an actual member of the rebellion with a clear goal of usurping the Empire, the FP sound like they just kinda dick around.
>>96847533>I get you can have standards, but at the end of the day you're still a war profiteerBT has always had mercenary good guys.Hell, IRL has had mercenary good guys. Lots of mercenaries have told themselves that they're on the side of the angels, they just happen to be too independent-minded to join a big military.Whether or not that's true is less clear, but they clearly believe it
>people say davions are tge main character faction>read lore >vast majority of important characters are steiners
>>96847533IIRC there was a Marik mercs who defended unprotected worlds with minimum pay
>>96845875>He actually wanted to write shadowrunThat makes sense. It's a shame CGL brought him over to Battletech as he'd be a much better fit in the Shadowrun universe and that's coming from a fan of Shadowrun. Its near-future setting has always made a better place for modern day issue soapboxing (it's practically a staple of the cyberpunk genre at this point). But I get it; they know the money is in BT as SR is effectively dead.>>96846076>>96846201Shadowrun has fallen to pieces under CGL's direction. I'll admit I'm biased here as I was our crew's decker back in the 2e/3e days, but hear me out, chummer. The decision to move away from the 80s/early-90s retro-futurism in 4th edition (which to be fair had WizKid's hands all over it) proved to be a bad move. I understand why the did it at the time, but it ended up ripping a lot of the charm and unique Shadowrun identity from the universe. There's a reason all the games take place in the 2e/3e FASA timeline. (Sounds a little similar to Battletech, don't it?) Things have gotten worse with every edition as we move further and further away from the FASA lore and game design DNA. 5th edition was an bloated utter mess of a game, but it staggered on for a while. Then when 6th edition came out it totally bombed. I fell out of Shadowrun toward the end of 5th edition, but everyone I knew who hung on and tried 6th either went back to an older edition or dropped out of Shadowrun entirely.The rules suck and the lore is boring. These days it feels like any other cyberpunk universe just with token fantasy races thrown in.CGL was lucky that Talsorian Games didn't bring out a new edition of Cyberpunk until they finally got their shit together again thanks to CD Projekt Red's Cyberpunk 2077. Cyberpunk Red isn't a hit, but I see much more people playing it than I've seen play Shadowrun in decades. >>96846796NTA, but that anon is obviously cracking a joke. It's a pretty tame one at that so no need to get butthurt, Brian.
>>96847530Yeah, pretty much, although it's only barely a continuation of government. It is explicitly described as a corporate theocracy, and Blake leaned hard on corporations and regional conglomerates to pull together the infrastructure and logistics needed to be a space nation again after the Hegemony and Star League collapsed, and then Toyama being the religious goblin that he is made it theocratic.
>>96845905No one expects literature from tie-in fiction, but I the Gray Death Legion (at least the first book, I haven't read the later entries) is fine popcorn reading.There was real effort put into it. Yes, it's trying to be an 80s action flick, but I found that charming in its own way. I wouldn't call it slop, I've read much, much worse tie-in fiction in my (wasted) youth that better deserves that buzzword. >>96846184>her chaos gayspicrel>>96847062Check if there's a local Battletech scene around you. I've set up trades as well as sold and purchased mechs through a Battletech Discord group in my area.
>>96847533There are other good guy mercenaries. "Mercenary" is the most convenient label to give irregular forces. The Knights of St. Cameron did a lot of pro bono work against pirates and raiders targeting civilians, because their main goal is to further their generally benign religious agenda. But they still need operating money and a religious paramilitary isn't as easily explained or welcomed as mercenaries, so they're mercenaries even if a lot of their "jobs" have zero potential of making net profits. The Marik Protectors are ex-FWLM regiments that decided to just keep on doing their thing and garrison otherwise defenseless worlds in the ex-FWL at cost. Being mercenaries means they can turn down jobs that would see them attacking other FWL worlds and if something really important comes up they can go AWOL with only a reputational hit rather than being brought up on dereliction of duty charges.
>>96847352I wouldn't be surprised if they are stalling for time, because CGL's gotta know that their days are numbered once they make new versions of all the old mechs people want. They're done revamping a majority of the Succession Wars and Clan Invasion era mechs (well, the early ones, there's still a lot of stuff in TRO 3058 that needs love). Once they finish the FedCom Civil War era stuff CGL will have nothing left to offer a huge chunk of the fanbase who doesn't give a shit about the Jihad and beyond.
Rolled 979, 220 = 1199 (2d1000)>>96836368Rolling a Ghoul
>>96847453>a decent amount of racial diversity.What are you talking about bro? Just in the inner sphere alone we've got>Space British/French Empire>Space Germany>Space Japan>Space China (and kinda Russia)>Space...Yugoslavia...America...kinda...thing>Space NordsThey've got their bases covered, I don't see anyone left out.
>>96847683While I really don't care for these AUs, if they did something with empires aflame I think that would be pretty cool
>>96847683>chunk of the fanbase who doesn't give a shit about the Jihad and beyondWhy is this anyway?What's the problem with post-Clan BT?
>>96847484>umpteenth force pack with ‘mechs basically unknown to even BT fansI'll have you know that I have been excited for new plastic models of mechs like the Templar, Falconer, Chimera, and whatnot. But I'll admit that I couldn't care less about the the Dark Age stuff however. (I think the only dark age mech I actually liked was the Thunder Fox.)>AcesI was interested in this until I found out it's only for Alpha Strike. Fortunately there's always MegaMek when I can't play with my friends.
>>96847626I like Gothic alright but I do think Herb’s take on the religious aspects doesn’t align with the vision in “BattleTech proper” I think this is because there are two different ideas of what religion actually is at play; I’ll call one “cultural” and the other “political”The cultural conception of religion is tied to the discredited idea that the irl Catholic Church preserved without understanding advanced knowledge of the lost “golden age” of classical antiquity during the “dark ages” of medieval times; that’s ComStar in the original vision of the BattleTech setting — so “religion” is a kind of ignorance due to cultural circumstances in this conceptionMeanwhile, the political conception of religion is tied to the post-9/11 idea of intense ideology as part of asymmetric conflict — her religion is a kind of technology itself (e.g., brainwashing children into fervent suicide bombers) that can make up for other technological inadequaciesI mean it’s not a coincidence that Herb also oversaw the Jihad eraIf BattleTech had started with the political version of religion rather than the cultural version then the Clans would have been the Jihadis
Rolled 4, 6, 3, 3 = 16 (4d6)>>96847710Looks like a Zeus,nice.
>>96847644>but I found that charming in its own way>I wouldn't call it slopI totally agree, and I think it’s because it is very sincere; Grayson is a naive young manHis situation reminds me a lot of Paul Atreides’s except Grayson is obviously not caught up in some kind of Chosen One prophecy Those books form a very classic tale of adventure
>>96847384>Here's the thing: what do you actually want?Celestials and SpectralsAll the IS omnisForce packs for every Great House with their iconic mechs/variantsPeriphery packs with things like the Marshal, Brigand, and security mechs et ceteraMinor House force packsMore helos and conventional aircraftMore clan conveesMore maps (you can never have too many maps)More force manualsMore hot spot campaigns (for any and every era)This isn't actually a difficult question.
>>96847744>only for Alpha StrikeI think Randall has said that he has high hopes for Aces and wants to continue collaborating with Lynnvander so that Josh can eventually do something like Aces for CBT
Is the Gauss Rifle the one Inner Sphere weapon with the smallest gap compared to the Clan version?
>>96847767(nta) I want these things to but I recognize my desire comes from falling under the far right of the BattleTech fan bell curvethe co lang is aiming more for the fat center of the curve
>>96847744They confirmed that they're making the BT version for Aces
>>96847533As others have said, Battletech has always been overwhelmingly supportive of Mercs. There's so many mercenary units that are the protagonists and typically outright good guys of their respective stories. Listing names off the top of my head here - there's Gray Death Legion, Wolf's Dragoons, Snord's Irregulars, Black Thorns, Northwind Highlanders, Eridani Light Horse, Camacho's Caballeros, and so on and so forth.>>96847570>vast majority of important characters are steinersAs God intended. >>96847728FASA fell apart at the end of the FedCom Civil War era...or was it the very beginning of the Jihad? I forget exactly. Either way the game dipped hard in popularity as it exchanged hands to FanPro who didn't have the resources to support it nearly as well (at least in my neck of the woods). While the Jihad received a number of source books, it never got the fiction like the rest of the timeline did. Hell, the Jihad didn't even have a TRO till the early days of CGL's reign. Then when Wizkids rolled in they wanted to nuke the setting and effectively did with Mechwarrior Dark Age, Battletech has never fully recovered from that. Anyway, as it wasn't supported there isn't a lot of love for anything beyond 3067, which is a shame as there is some cool stuff in the Jihad at least. (There's a lot of bullshit too, but I wish I could use Snub-Nosed PPCs and MRMs with Apollo FCS on the tabletop more often.)
>>96847728>Why is this anyway?The old guard grew up with FSS-Clan Invasion so that's what they push. Easy money, really.Truth is, there was a time where FCCW was looked down upon along with Jihad and DA. But thanks to MW4 and MechAssault fans have warmed up since. And really that's all the later eras/alternative mechs/literally anything BT related needs, a good game. But thanks to M$ you won't likely get to see it.
>>96847747There goes my luck. Introducing Beatrice Moreau 3/4 Zeus pilot. Callsign Swamp Hag.
>>96847783Pretty much.
>>96847836I think CGL was right to start with 4SW and CI because those designs are all iconic and continue to have viable variants as the timeline advances.They kind of have to offer ilClan designs too because it's the current era.I would personally like to see more Jihad because it is the era I think is most interesting, but I understand that it's not popular. I also understand that "Jihad" is kind of a pRoBlEmAtIc term these days, so we're not likely to get the support I want for it.
>>96847727The whole continuum thing seems to be more about an aesthetic overhaul of BattleTechWhat would Empires Aflame suggest in those terms?>>96847849Hope the Ghosts manage to roll an assault or even a heavy yikes
>>96845875They told him Shadowrun was full and, iirc, it was Stackpole who suggested to go write for Battletech instead so at least he's still writing
The weakest part of the battletech novels are the battlemechs themselves. They'd be better written as military political fiction with battlemechs and galactic feudalism as a backdrop. Finale being a battlemech skirmish.Unfortunately, battletech has the same problem as star wars in that the thing people watch it for is the weakest or least interesting part of the universe. So many stories can be told, but MUH BATTLEMECH BATTLES or MUH JEDI VS SITH.
>>96847772>>96847796That's cool, but I do not envy the designers they're hiring to do it. I'd imagine running Classtic Battletech via cards is going to be tough to pull off.>>96847783I'm pretty sure it is, yeah. Maybe outside of some weird experimental tech from later down in the timeline. >>96847767Thank you. People act like there's hardly anything left for CGL to remake from the old days, but that isn't the case. There's still gold in them hills. >>96847836>Truth is, there was a time where FCCW was looked down upon along with Jihad and DA. But thanks to MW4 and MechAssault fans have warmed up since.This is true and while I am a fan of MW4:M (didn't have an Xbox so I never played MechAssault), I've always enjoyed the FCCW era on the tabletop too. I never understood the dislike part of the old guard had for it back in the day.
>>96847883>The whole continuum thing seems to be more about an aesthetic overhaul of BattleTechDon't be naive. It's because the company wants to sustain sales through novelty. A big box like Gothic can command a higher price while providing less in materials. It's a collectors item, if it doesn't sell enough for a reprint they can just move on to the next one-off thing to target collectors and hype buyers.On the one hand, if it helps generate revenue to fund things the main player base wants, OK, good.On the other hand, it could (and seems like it might have) pushed back core products and irritate their long term player base while catering to transient consumers.
>>96845469>improve minority-representationUnfortunately it doesn't count unless you're a non-white author adding it.
>>96847882>I also understand that "Jihad" is kind of a pRoBlEmAtIc term these days, so we're not likely to get the support I want for it.I've heard people express this, but what's problematic about the Jihad? Is it just the word "jihad"? Beyond everyone's favorite characters getting unceremoniously axed in it.>>96847919>People are most interested in the action within series that have the words "battle" and "wars" in their namesWho would've thunk?
>>96847716There's a difference between general lore and the characters we see on screen.Almost all of the "main characters" we meet, and most of their associates, are white when race is assigned explicitly assigned.Again: BT does a pretty good job of it, especially considering when it was made. Did you read the part where I said "can and should and DID"?.BT could "do better", but they're also doing pretty well.
>>96847783Along with the LB-X autocannons.
>>96847946>is it just the word jihad?Yes. Evokes muslim conservatism and that makes people nervous. And when I say people, I mean content thieves on youtube and reels self-censoring. Dune has a similar problem since it talks about religious terrorism and middle eastern words used a lot. But dune is gatekept better since that requires people to actually read the books.
>>96847932>I never understood the dislike part of the old guard had for it back in the day.Because it made no fucking sense on who was on what side. It wrecked the awesome "We're all gonna be the Justice League and fuck the Legion of Clans like they deserve." Oh, and then it broke the 2nd SL at the end and leaped us into the DA where everything was extra fucked before MW4:Mercs even came out. Oh, and also us living through "Battletech is dead. Clicktech is the new and only supported thing" at most FLGS in the country. Then, destroying most of the Mechwarrior household name on DA stuff. You know we had Joyride shit like Halo and Kinex kits back then? They burned all that brand recognition into the ground during Forever 67.I also forgot the prices of minis, too. You want to know what a proper Unseen Mad was in 2004? $75 on LotB. Like $180 today. McFuck that entire decade of Battletech.
>>96847955The problem is when the goal becomes inserting non-white cishet characters instead of creating a good product. Can you create a good product while using those types of characters?Probably.Can CGL do it?Low odds.
>>96847827End of Civil War.The whole thing with the Jihad is that it was forced on FanPro because it was in the background of MWDA.IIRC the devs were planning on something like it anyway, but WizKids took over before they implemented it.>>96847883>The whole continuum thing seems to be more about an aesthetic overhaul of BattleTech>What would Empires Aflame suggest in those terms?Good point
>>96847955It's almost like a game tailored to midwestern white teenage american boys should probably lean into that.
>>96847991If Jamaican chinese eating haggis in space while trading in chattel slaves can't work, nothing else has any hope.
dice+2d1000Blessed Blake may the rolls grace me with a mech worthy of your holy name. One that will strike fear into the hearts of the fallen heathen pirates who are ignorant of your glory.
>>96847994It's more profitable (short term) to pander to the urbanites who get excited about virtue signaling current thing and slurp it up before waddling off to the next trough. What do you think all the urbanmech stuff was? What percentage of those sold actually get painted, and what percentage of those make it to the table?
>>96836263>>96848011"dice+2d1000"Forgive me of my sins for getting the quotation marks, may I not falter further.
>>96847882>They kind of have to offer ilClan designs too because it's the current era.I just wish the ilclan variants weren't blatant rehashes of the OG variants. Some of the mechs change a lot over the course of the setting in terms of role and design, but it seems catalyst decided they wanted the latest variants to be wysiwyg with the introtech models
>>96848015Normally I don't spoonfeed, but this is hard to watch.Dice rolls go in the name field.
>>96847991I tend to agree. BT is probably going as well as they can without going into strong Black womyn Merchant territory.I remember someone said something in this thread once, "people in BT have way more important things to hate you for than your race" or something.It's a hard line to walk.One good implementation I saw was in the Rivers of London series (especially the earlier books, the author has sort of forgotten this around the same time he decided that just normal diversity wasn't enough and he needed to introduce a deaf chinese lesbian woman as the heir to the "Sons of [whatever]") was that the narrator described every person by their race, including white people, instead of the normal convention of only mentioning race when the person wasn't white, thus tacitly establishing white as the default.
>>96848007What book was that in?
>>96848022Thanks normally post on /k/ and only come here for /btg/ so I never roll dice on /tg/
>>96848025I've read books that had non white non straight protagonists, I think. Like you don't need to make it a big deal, just write a good story and that's what matters.
>>96848034Keep trying bro.
Fuck me lmao.
>>96848033yours, anon
>>96847919This but the opposite. The only good bits are the mechs. Literally everything else about the setting is just dollar store 80's scifi with evil asian emperors fighting luke skywalker or whatever. No one likes the novels outside of the "I liked reading that in my dads campervan as a young boy in 1985!" crowd.
>>96848025You forgot the trans somali lesbian noblewoman
>>96848043That's it. I give up.
>>96848017The alternative is spending effort on redesigning mechs for specific eras. It's kind of ridiculous that they've already given us three poses of the same Woldhound variant, having different eras of the same mech would obly be slightly less silly. Tgat is to say, as long as there are mechs without a plastic release of any kind. After all chassis get at least one plastic release they should go nuts, but not until then.
>>96848034>>96848043Ok, sorry, it's the options field without quotes.
>>96848044I'll write that book, and I'll dedicate it to you.Which sailor is that?
>>96848043Wrong field again. You're running out of fields to try. Don't put it in the captcha box.
>>96848046>this but the oppositeCase in point. People that only read for the big robots and the puddle deep characters.If you subbed battlemechs out for riced out honda civics and street racing turf wars, it'd be more obvious how weak/distracting battlemechs are from a good story.
>>96848017>but it seems catalyst decided they wanted the latest variants to be wysiwyg with the introtech modelsthat was the actual design criteria, yes
>>96848040Honestly, the more I see that shit, the more I want Baron Harkonnen-type representation. I want to see the vile ugly gay evil monsters more than the people waving it like a virtue. I want to see the villain lick his lips at the handsome hero and imply he can take the princesses's place in the sex dungeon. If it's normal and random, then you can be a good guy just as much as a bad guy. I want to see a full scatterplot with R<1 of random assignment of who is good and bad.
I...
>>96848017I never expected anything different. They did the exact same thing with Project Phoenix back in the 2000's.
>>96848075Actually yeah, I agree with this anon.
>>96848082Huh? The whole point of Project Phoenix was that the new Mechs looked nothing at all like the originals.
>>96848127Looked nothing like, but had the same type of loadouts as 3025 in terms of gun numbers and placement. They only every fiddled with little things like Big Gun=Big Gun like the Thud.
>>96848064I don't read them at all. They suck ass. If you read them for cool mech fights you're not getting that either.They should at least come with standees so I can pose them around while reading mech fights.>>96848075There was a big push against captain hook-style foppish dandy probably gay villains a while back so disney stopped touching it. Then everyone realized they lost one of the most popular kind of probably gay character and all they have left in shows are soft teenagers with one scene where they say they think boys are hot.
>>96847767Don't really care about any clanshit.A force pack for the periphery states would be better than the various weirdo merc units.I'd like more bugs.
>>96848177>I'd like more bugs.Somebody promote this man!
>>96848054I don't care about the models, I'm talking about the record sheets for the newest variants. The models don't matter, and if you want, conversions aren't particularly difficult. Just make the loadouts interesting as opposed to re-hashing the same shit people have been playing with for the last 30 years.
>>96848181Do you know how many bugs I have in my entire collection (of CGL plastic)? Like...5. 1 stinger, 1 wasp, 2 locusts, and 1 spider. 6 if you count the cicada.6 out of 80 plastic mechs. Not even 10%.
>>96847932>There's still gold in them hills.That they seem to keep pushing back for other, worse projects rather than sticking with things that'd make money. And they'd have to actually stock those things to make that money.
>>96847946I dunno, Herb wasn't afraid of speaking 'Jihad' in recent Youtube live interview
>>96848213That's because he knows nobody watches those.
>>96847946Honestly Jihad is just a word, I think as long as people don't suddenly start complaining about muslims it shouldn't matter.
>>96847937>Don't be naiveWhat is naive about my post?Continuum aesthetically overhauls BattleTech … as a novelty, yeah, and?My point was Empires Aflame as an AU doesn’t suggest a different set of aesthetics from canon BT>>96848210>things that'd make moneylike what?I hope you don’t mean this list >>96847767faction packs and faction books will likely sell because that makes sense to 40k fans but other than that
>>96848139Oh, interesting.I was curious and I just checked; it's not ALL of them, but it's 75%+
>>96848310You going to finish that thought?
>>96848310>that makes sense to 40k fans but other than thatPeople have been making faction specific forces forever. The force manuals just give options and information to support that. I don't know of anybody actually using them like 40k codices, and I don't forsee that becoming a norm. If that's what you're afraid of the MUL should scare you more.The faction boxes are just a way to logically package minis, especially the handful of totem/iconic mechs.I like to organize my own collection based off what factories made what mechs, when and where, especially for post SLDF mechs. But that's me, I don't care what my opponents do as long as the game is balanced.
>JihadIn this specific context, the use of the term was certainly exploitative; i.e., a shorthand term for evil, terroristic, religiously-inspired violent political movementContrast with pre-9/11 “Jyhad” in World of Darkness (which White Wold shied away from even before 9/11)
Is the Urbanmech the canon lightest nuclear armed mech?
>>96848364slow down there — my point is faction-branded packs and books will appeal to 40k players who are used to GW selling them product that way
>>96846148They mean ghetto-ass vile criminal nigg her fa ghoots, troony goofballs and lez beens.These are the people who have declared PRODUCTIVE, normal black people and Asians as honorary whitey supreems.
>>96848355which one?
>>96848377You are extra retarded. It spawns from late 1990's FASA days where it just meant Holy War in the same vein as Crusade but with a bad undertone.That you even use the word 'explotaitive' marks you as a faggot of the lowest caliber.
>>96848408why are you so triggered?the question was why CGL might be sensitive about using the word, not what my personal views are
>>96848408>it just meant Holy War in the same vein as Crusadeand yet they didn’t use the word crusadefor some reasonhmmmm
>>96848423Because they were aping dune.
>>96848423nta but Jihad sounds more interesting and reminds one of Dune's Butlerian Jihad of which BT takes massive inspiration from.
>>96848423>radical fundamentalists commiting terror bombings and genocides to destabilize their more powerful enemies and exploit the resultant chaosJihad was the most correct word available.
>>96848423Because they were marked as the bad version of Comstar, so they get the bad version of holy war.>>96848421Not triggered. Actually kind of drunk and happy.
>>96842295The nose glass ruins it for me. The stiff mechwarrior pose hurts it too.
>>96848408The first use of "Jihad" is in MWDA, which is 2002."Jihad" would have been very relevant in popular discourse.
>>96848453>of which BT takes massive inspiration from.It what way? I don't remember the Word of Blake rising up against the thinking machines.
>>96848485Not in internal documents. We have FASA shit talking about that back in 1999. That's the nice thing about so many devs being old fans.They share that shit.It actually caused problems when 9/11 happened.
Anyone got the screencap of Pardoe's whiny facebook rant over the urbanmech IIC
>>96848512Pretty sure it was a response to an Amazon review and not Facebook, but I remember it well. What a faggot.
Tell me,Tell me about /yourdudes/
>>96842485What's also weird is Col McLeod just making it his personal ride and giving up his Gallowglas, which is also kind of a weird choice for the CO of a multi regiment unit
>>96848452I don’t think that is correct but I’m willing to hear out your argument>>96848453>Jihad sounds more interestingI think it sounded more interesting specifically because of world events at the time>>96848455>most correct wordyes, if your understanding of that term comes from pop culture in the West talking about “radical Islam” around 2001>>96848453>>96848497>1999 or 2002if you’re not too young to have been a teenager or adult in those days, you’ll remember that term percolating in US 24-hour news cycles prior to Tuesday September 11, 2001>It actually caused problems when 9/11 happened.And those are the same problems, more or less, that it could still cause>>96848493nta but I think he means neofeudalism (which is I think just a facet of “imperial sci fi” more generally)
>>96848541>Dirka dirka, Mohammad Jihad.Yes, we all are familiar with the verbage. That doesn't make it problematic.
>>96848497>Not in internal documents. We have FASA shit talking about that back in 1999. That's the nice thing about so many devs being old fans.They share that shit.Oh, interesting>It actually caused problems when 9/11 happened.Yeah...It's like "Isis".
>>96848535A Merc unit. Leader is a Ghost Bear freebirth elemental that washed out (because the tester loathed freebirths) fled the Bears on an inner sphere dropship from FRR space, only to discover it was a trap and the dropship belonged to pirates. Spent at least six months on their asteroid 'Brimstone' that they'd taken over from a bunch of fairly religious people without much of a fight. (Think Amish etc) fighting in the pirate arena because... he was an elemental. He put on a good show. He managed to break out, organize a revolt and killed the pirates off.The pirate dropship had been stolen from the FC and had a Bushwacker, Crusader, Enforcer and a Catapult.Brimstone's Outcaste's was born, and the local populace viewed him as something of a folk hero, almost bordering on hero worship (as he 'delivered' them from their fate) which he's frankly embarrassed and quite self conscious about. But they're good people and provide their sons for mech pilots (and infantry) and their daughters for techs and admin. To small to be part of anything massive, they were employed by the FC as follow on forces as part of Op Bulldog, and specifically refused any clan mech salvage. Opting to take IS mechs from their 'parent' units that kept the clan stuff. (which explains some of their rarer mechs like Penetrators, Flashman, Black Knight etc.)By 3060 they were a company and a half strong, specializing as combat engineers with IS Standard BA troops with associated supporting elements.
>>96848535>Tell me about /yourdudes/Maman Babet's Hoodoo KreweA long standing band of pirates led by the "immortal" Maman Babet, who coordinates her large mob of pirate mechs with a supernatural understanding of tactics and positioning. Or perhaps her venerable Cyclops has a rare working battle computer, and her immortality is a ruse, with successive women taking up her mysterious and reclusive mantle over the decades. Whatever the case, the Hoodoo Krewe operates throughout the Inner Sphere and Near Periphery, always one step ahead of retribution, forever on the move, with no place to call a permanent home. The Krewe seems to attract new mechwarriors as fast as they lose them, appealing to the desperate and superstitious wherever they go for an ever revolving membership. They strike based on the visions of Maman Babet, hitting soft targets where they often party on the spot with their fleeting control as much as they loot warehouses. It is not uncommon for partied out mechwarriors to face planetary justice because they missed the dropships liftoff. It is equally as common for previously overcome local defenders to wake up with a hellish hangover to discover they are en route to the next planet with no real choice but to embrace membership in the Krewe.Their mechs come in a wild variety of paint schemes, with long term veterans taking up the green, gold, and purple colors of Babet's Cyclops.
>>96848557I certainly don’t think it is, but I’m hardly the customer CGL needs to convince to buy into BT
>>96848535Ex-Republic mercs in 3151. The leader, Senora Dana Maria Goldman Alonso Carritos, is the grandchild of a Lyran baron who fled his planet a hundred years ago when they were occupied by the Jade Falcons and lived out his life on the beaches of Spain. His child did the same thing, but his grandchild joined the RAF as a Mechwarrior. With the fall of the Republic and the Falcons abandoning their OZ, Dana Carritos decides to return to the world that is her birthright and establish herself as its rightful Baron. In the meantime, she and a few ex-RAF buddies are operating as Carritos' Cavaliers, a mercenary unit, while they collect the money and forces Dana expects to need to set herself up as Baroness.
>>96848640As long as they don't slap "Jihad" on the front of a box set and scare random passerby, they'll be fine. Only people who already care about Battletech even know the Jihad is there. And if they do a Jihad themed box set, they can just name it Battletech: Word Of Blake
You know the funniest part of all this is the only people who'd be offended by the word Jihad would be Americans. Jihad doesn't have the same connotations in the ME that it does in the West. Depending on country you're in, it's outright people's name.
>Reunification War>Amaris Civil War>JihadWhich one's more likely to get a KS/box set?
>>96848694>Be named Jihad Johnson >This is completely acceptable pre WoB Jihadkek
>>96848705I would love any of them and already painted up and played Amaris Civil War stuff (picrel) but I would love the Jihad box most of all with Celestials>>96848694“Word of Blake” sounds retarded unless you already know what it is, I’m not sure what they could call a Jihad box set but WoB would be a bad choice
>>96848512>>96848522It was a Facebook post in response to an Amazon review
>>96848735Combining "you fucking nerd I bet you never leave the house" with "also I know and care about battletech WAY more than you! fight me irl!" is a classic.
>>96848735With such a consumately professional bearing and remarkable composure, it's hard to comprehend why he gets mockef so much. This is a man of incredible wit, with the thick skin of a professional writer, and not at all an insecure buffoon or a raging egotist. Certainly he has been deeply wronged. The community owes him an apology.
There's no set in stone fluff for which energy beam colors which, right?>there's million laser manufacturers for a medium laser anyway for example
>>96848762>>96848749Directly and publicly insulting customers gets you fired in pretty much any line of work except government
>>96848787This is true, but there have been enough videogames for us to viciously argue about it, anyway.
>>96848787>>96848793That's correct. A common convention in the video games is small red, medium green, large blue, but>Lasers can be of various wavelengths, and thus colors, but have the same final result. >Lasers don't actually have visible beams, especially if they operate in infrared ir ultraviolet wavelengths. Instead, the beam is detected by your mech's sensors and drawn in by the computer for your sake. There's a settings window where you can change what lasers are what color. You could even just set it to "friendlies have green lasers, hostiles have red"
>>96847955>Did you read the partYes, but I was just yanking your chain to mess with ya.
>>96848157>novels should come with standeesOk. Not a bad idea, actually. Every book comes with standees for every mech mentioned in the book. Would save having to explain what a mech looks like.
>>96848922>Would save having to explain what a mech looks likeDo the newer novels no longer have an appendix with pictures of the mechs?
>>96848986No idea but you can't play with an illustration. If every book came with a small hex grid fold out and 4 or 5 cardboard standees, you could leverage named units and sell dead trees in the process.
>>96848986they still do
Rolled 138, 402 = 540 (2d1000)>>96836368Alright I'm back. I sobered up some more, played some Silent Hill 3 on my PS2 because it's spooky month, and now I'm actually reading the post this time. Let's try this again, but watch me fail anyway. Rolling Ghost.
Rolled 5, 3, 3, 1 = 12 (4d6)>>96849014looks like another Mongoose. rolling stats
>>96849022That's 4/6, right?In a Mongoose MON-66Let's call her Heather Mason.Hopefully >>96843356 can show her the ropes.Comstar is going to die
According to Herb on the forums Gothic is supposed to get a monster box (which I'm hoping comes with construction rules) and that's it for Gothic because they know people don't like these AUs taking away resources from watching the Wolves conquering the Inner Sphere. All the other upcoming AUs are going to be the same where they release a box set, a small lore book, and presumably a Shrapnel and that's it.Now I really like Gothic for its mechs vs monsters concept and hope a small community latches onto it and keeps it alive through fan mech and monster designs and fanfics but I sadly doubt it because the mech designs are kind of ugly and the fact that Gothic as a setting is rather dark with everyone still using WMDs and fan favorite characters like Hanse being turned into a sociopath who does some fucked up shit.
>>96849057>like Hanse being turned into a sociopath who does some fucked up shitAnon, I...
>>96849057>fan favorite characters like Hanse being turned into a sociopath who does some fucked up shitnani the fuck?
>>96849057>According to Herb on the forumsYou made me curious so I looked it up. On the one hand it's nice that a writer/designer answers questions and confirms/denies rumors while engaging with players. On the other hand I now hate him based purely on his posting style.
>>96849057>fan favorite characters like Hanse being turned into a sociopath who does some fucked up shit....how is that any different from his canon character?
>>96849057Even canon Hanse has a higher bodycount than anyone from the period between the first two succession wars and the jihad. Though being a power-hungry sociopath who'd be willing to kill billions for a chance to sit on the fancy chair is a requirement for being a successor lords, so he's not really any worse than the others. He just happened to be the one in the position that let him stomp on one of his rivals and kill hundreds of millions of civilians in the process.
>>96849154It was something a few of the designers were saying but because they were the ones we hate the most they weren't believed
I want to upgrade my players from a Leopard so they can get some back up and reserve mechs but don't want to jump straight to the Union or two Leopards in case a potential fifth player joins. Are there any non-unicorn IS options that carry six to right mechs by 3056?
>>96849158>how is that any different from his canon character?Canon Hanse doesn't gaslight his friend Ardan into becoming a suicide bomber nor does he routinely kill off his lovers once he grows bored of them or they start causing problems.
>>96849189>Are there any non-unicorn IS options that carry six to right mechs by 3056?No.
How does mine clearance equipment work? Do they just get detonated remotely?
>>96849220Damn. Alright, I'll probably write up an adventure where they're forced to abaddon their Leopard and use a barely functioning Union they'll have to repair with time. It will also give them another money sink.
>>96849189No but you could probably justify a refit. Are they using the ASF bays?Can they just pack up a reserve mech in the cargo bay?
>>96849189Give them a Mule-class dropship and force them to store mechs as cargo so that getting their extra mechs out is a pain in the ass. Also forces them to be careful about planetary approach, but on the upside they could get extra money by selling cargo space or doing their own trading.
>>96849272The asf bays are used for quarters and the cargo bays are full of hoarded stuff, ammo and parts. Plus I might give them the option to get some aerospace fighters to use as support during fights so the quarters would get moved soon anyway.
Damn, I thought BT minis being pre-assembled is a good thing, but by Toyama painting the pre assembled King Crab is a massive pain in the ass
>>96849189Hamilcar is a Marik dropship that carries 8 mechs and 4 aerospace fighters - which looks like the closest you'll get to 6 for an IS design in that timeframe - but is also panned as a mediocre design for a dropship
>>96849329How many specialized military assault craft designed in 3054 will be in poor mercenary hands by 3056? That would make much less sense than a Union.
>>96849304I had a similar experience with the Turkina.
>>96849304what’s the problem
>>96849189Leopard with the ASF cubicles modified to Mechs. The doors are the wrong shape and couldn't be modified without basically rebuilding the hull, so those 2 need to leave through one of the other cubicles' door.
recently started playing alpha strike as my first tabletop game,im slowly learning stuff as i go along but im really enjoying it
>>96849057If they give us rules for making monsters then Gothic will be more fondly remembered for sure. Even if they are protomechs in costumes.
>>96849337It makes sense if it's a shit design that is palmed off to anyone else who'd jump at the chance to "have their own dropship" even if it is a bad design
Did the playtest leak include any positive changes to AC2 aside from the ammo explosion cap?
>>96845469>>96845875Amuse me: I've never read anything about the Fox Patrol and I know nothing about Bryan Young bar the occasional post here.Is the Fox Patrol series about a young, quirky lesbian woman doing mercenary jobs? She's also a tech wiz? She's also a redhead? She also drives a Clan Mech for ??? reason?How many did I catch and how many did I miss?>>96847767I'm still amazed we got the Merc box instead of a Civil War one. The Mechwarrior 4 generation was still a thing.
>>96849694We should be getting the 'Gear' playtest today, the answer will be there.
>>96849770We already had a full leak on day 1 but I forgot to save it.
>>96849733I don't remember her hair color of if she's a lesbian (among the pilots she recruits for the merc command are two gay men who are in a relationship with each other, but I don't recall if the stories ever specifically addressed the sexual orientation of the main character).
>>96850186She has brown hair. The first story gad her father figure ask if she was seeing a boy or girl, which she blushed about, but the more recent ones have implied she's just uninterested in romance entirely and purely a mechsexual. So she's the ideal we should all aspire to.
>>96848633Oh, I like this. I'm guessing they use lots of zombie mechs.
>>96849780A lot of those have already been changed.
>>96850186Bryan has specified she's asexual. Or maybe just autistic hyperfocused on mechs
>>96849189Technically the Buccaneer according to fluff even if there are no examples of what would be a retrofit. It has the cargo space to do it. Other than that no as everything can think of is larger or brand new.
>>96850472>autistic leaderUnless autism means being a psychic, a leader who struggles with interpersonal communication will tank a company reliably.It's not like the standards are high either - regarding interpersonal skills, I've met slews of one-trick ponies.
>>96850186>>96850257>>96850472>I bet she's gay>even worse!
>>96850472>autistic hyperfocused on mechsOh God, not another one
>>96849189There's plenty of Mules that have been converted to being mech carriers, you can convert 1 of the three cargo bays to act as mech bays, but it's worse than a union because there's only two doors.
>>96849189Trojans are all custom refits, so one with mech space is fine. The base model Danais they're customized from is common enough since it was the star league's backhanded gift to the periphery after the Reunification Wars.
>>96850654Wrong direction, she is supposed to be Rey Skywalker. Young considers Rey the best written character in fiction.
>>96851125>Young considers Rey the best written character in fiction.I just threw up a little.
>>96851253Why do you HATE WOMEN?
>>96851327Because I've met women, anon. Everyone who talks to women hates women, especially other women. Women are dumb reactionary, hedonistic animals who don't deserve rights or freedoms, and trying to force them to be the heroes of high adventure tales is particularly retarded when they aren't even able to manage their own emotions, much less actually proactively act to save the galaxy.
>>96851397Now now anon remember that Battletech is a fictional universe so perhaps there women are actually capable beings unlike here in our sad reality
>>96836128>BattleTech Introductory Guide & PDFs
>>96851467Yeah, CGL killed off the lore pages, I guess you are supposed to to got YouTube these days.The quick start rules are still up.https://battletech.com/qsr/
Are there any decent lostech orions?
>>96849329>but is also panned as a mediocre design for a dropshipI opened up TRO 3057 and quoting the book here:>At first glance, the Hamilcar-class DropShip appears to be an ill-conceived design with little usefulness. Two huge bays in the main body of the craft contain cubicles for eight heavy BattleMechs, and a third bay directly below the main engine houses four aerospace fighters. This unique combination makes the Hamilcar hard to classify—it is neither a fightercarrier nor a ’Mech carrier. Many people have interpreted the design as a raider, with the fighters acting as cover for the eight-’Mech raiding force, but the Hamilcar carries only 80 tons of fuel and 90 tons of cargo, making it highly unsuited to raiding operations as it cannot operate away from a supply base for any length of time.(It goes on to explain the dropship being used in a terrorist hostage situation followed by a paragraph commending the virtues of its fighter bay placement below the main engines before continuing)>Despite the innovative design features found on the Hamilcar, however, the vessel is overall a mediocre craft. The Hamilcar's arsenal consists almost entirely of recovered weapons technology, but the array is so limited that it severely limits the DropShip’s ability to defend itself. Likewise, a paltry 35 tons of armor provide a barely acceptable level of armor protection. Given these weaknesses, the Hamilcar could easily become little more than a flying coffin if its fighter screen is destroyed.So, in a nutshell, the issues are that it doesn't carry a lot of fuel, the craft's weapons array isn't the best (and is primarily forward facing), and it doesn't have enough armor. This might still be acceptable to a Merc company. However, I wonder how hard it'd be to refit it, especially if you got rid of those fighter bays?
>>96850654>Implying most people here aren't mechsexuals
>>96851551The royal trades the AC for an LB/X and adds Artemis and CASE.
>>96849733>She also drives a Clan Mech for ??? reason?IIRC the first story starts when she's 17 exploring the wilderness of her homeworld on the edge of Lyran space she finds an abandoned long forgotten KIT FOX. She dubs the mech "KAGEKITSUNE" which is JAPANESE for SHADOW FOX. Anyway, she repairs it *all by herself in secret* when pirates attack forcing her to use her mech and kick heckin' butt with it. In later stories she subsequently becomes the leader of her own merc unit called the FOX PATROL who eventually operate a dropship called the FOX DEN. It's big brained writing that many anons here simply aren't intelligent enough to understand.
>>96851728Whoops, I was too caught up in the brilliant writing that I forgot to hit the enter key to break the first two lines from your quote.
>>96851728The stupidest part is that it's a Kit Fox because he wanted there to be a connection to the Kell Hounds, but that means it could have been an Arctic Fox to leave room for the classic mid-story upgrade to a Kit Fox.
>>96851772But Arctic Fox is still stuck with an ancient metal model and likely isn't in the running for an art updated anytime soon. Got to use one of the designs CGL is making plastic models of!
>>96851728Since he likes Rey so much, I feel like there are better than not odds that she's a secret Davion channeling the spirit of Hanse "the Fox" Davion.
>>96850472>>96850552Goddammit I failed. I forgot lesbians are passé, making her a tranny would be too much so he got in the good old aroace Tumblr reliable. My fault. >>96851728Honestly, that's the most Battletech thing. Terrible, cringeworthy pseudo-Japanese weebery with plot-armour that would make a Great Turtle blush is essential in Btech narrative, it's so bad that it turns around to be kinda sorta charming. It does amuses me that I tried to conjure what she was by going "standard low-tier YA female protag" and I got kinda close.
>>96846692Yeah, my group is still doing that "IS got a heads up about the Clan Invasion" campaign.>>96847396>Get an ECM suite to hack into enemy 'mech sound systems so that you can force them to listen to the Evangelion OP!Oh you can do much worse!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUamHEvVQy0>>96847994>It's almost like a game tailored to midwestern white teenage american boys should probably lean into that....So we need more Industrial Mechs?>>96848057>Which sailor is that?Pluto I believe, implying Anon is communicating with you FROM THE FUTURE!
>>96847955Uh we had a black afro samurai in the wolves on the border storyI hate dracs but he was really cool as a character.I didnt even realize he was black until i finished the story kek.
>>96847955Ah i forgot but canonically the Smoke Jaguars are canonically african-ish kinda like the wakandans i guess but they abandoned that a while ago.i always chuckled that Osis was like mike tyson.I think they abandoned the african theming because>ultra violent clan of THUGS>black people>oof I liked them better that way though still my favorite clan before Star Adder
>>96836368>>96842845Another quick update. Again sorry if I missed anyone.Ghosts (Comstar)WVE-5N Wyvern Max "Jumpman" Hassan 4/6MCY-99 Mercury Colleen O'Clery 3/4DV-6M Dervish Khamsin 3/4HBK-4G Hunchback Wilhelm "Kaiser" Billings 4/6KTO-19 Kintaro Logan Carmichael 4/4MON-66 Mongoose Cristobal Forsyth-Templeton 3/5GRF-2N Griffin Giuseppe Bartolo 4/5MON-66 Mongoose Heather Mason 4/6(4 slots left)Ghouls (Pirates)WSP-1A Wasp Donald Butler Holdfast 4/5CN9-A Centurion 'Mad' Bob Cutler 4/4 Vedette Lonnie Ferguson 3/4TBT-5N (The Wild Ride) Trebuchet Bones "Bones" Boneson.4/4Vedette Honesty “Honey” Wallace 3/4BJ-1 Blackjack Willie Snakebeard.4/4WHM-6R Warhammer Bone-biter 4/5ZEU-6S Zeus Beatrice "Swamp Hag" Moreau 3/4(4 slots left)That is one hell of a pirate band there while Comstar seems mostly interns? Might legit keep that pirate roster for some campaign play.
>>96851728>>96851988I forgot to mention that she's brunette. Asexual as you found out. And that she always wanted to be a MechWarrior, but her parents could only afford to have her apprenticed as a MechTech. They then died in some tragic accident (that I forget the details of) and the Mech Tech takes her in becoming her father figure. Of course she's also a mechanical wizard too.Later in the FOX PATROL two of the older veteran MechWarriors under her command are gay lovers.Meanwhile here I'm just hoping for FOXDIE to end things already.>kinda sorta charmingDelusional bad writing can be occasionally charming until it starts becoming a soap box for me personally. >I got kinda closeYou did!>>96851970kek you're probably right.>>96852296Charrette was the original weeb. He co-created the Bushido RPG in 1979 which was likely the first Japanese themed TTRPG. I got to play it once at a convention and it made everything from Charrette since make sense.
>>96852336It's not about them being ultra violent nigger thugs.It's about them being ultra violent nigger thugs who got genocided in the lore and that the lore also views this as a good thing.It's way too problematic to have an ethnic cleansing of niggers that deserved it and everyone knows they deserved it.
>>96852366I'm running a Bushido campaign right now.
>>96852366yeah Robert is cool i like most of his stuff battletech wise, obviously in my opinion Stackpole mogs>>96852393>brings up black people>can't go one sentence without saying nigger>spams the word three times for extra measure even though there's an abundance of slurs for black peopleI guess brother lol still can't un-nuke turtle bay doe
>>96852439NTA but in spite of his word choice >>96852393 isn't wrong.
>>96852519I mean yeah I like them because they are super villainous and destructive and meet their end.Kind of like a mob movie where the mobster keeps getting away with shit until he gets whacked in the end.I usually root for the bad guy and i liked the original African/Special Forces/Ultra violent theme they were going with.I liked their psuedo comeback with Fidelis as well.I'll take any black characters in Battletech regardless since there's only a handful of them anyway but i don't really care about representation too much because I'm Mechsexual which all of us are don't lie.
>>96852439I was a big fan of Stackpole's writing when I was a small child, I read literally everything he wrote.
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>>96852551>>96852439>>96852393The only positive interactions I've had with negroids (not neutral or negative), we're with those who were the nerdy weeb type or who had white fathers.
>>96852555Well kids are retarded?
>>96852555Yeah he's super duper good as far as pulpy stuff goes>>96852584Trvke
>>96852296I'll never forgive The Dracs for what they did to my Boy.
>>96852630Made the only real ass nigga in all of battletech An hero and made the best Merc commander mercy kill him.Dracs are the subject of my ire till this DAY till this DAY
>>96852642Genuinely my favourite OpFor specifically so I can smash their stupid LARPing faces.
>>96852681Me and you would be good lance mates irl i can tell.the only thing i hate more than Ghost Bears and Nova Cats are fucking Dracs
>>96852742I am up for Operation Slap-A-Drac as well if you are offering anons?
>>96851970At some point in the future, people will start asking why both directors went out on their way to shit on the negro boy.
>>96852771I think if i ever run a game of BT Rpg it will be against Dracs in space vietnam and scalping them will give my PCs extra C-bills and pointsKinda like Brigador but only for Drac scalps
Which mech most celebrates Black culture? There's no mech named Iklwa or similar, and the Black Knight is a bit on the nose.
>>96853466IIRC one of the canopian DA designs is named after a mythological queen of Ethiopia
