Grenade Out>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh (embed)>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/Previous thread:>>96839314>Thread QuestionDo you ever use grenades
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
I forget grenades exist most of the time.Anything with 0 ap is kind of worthless.
>>96841732>TQI forget I have them.
On the subject of grenades, I'm admittedly a little confused why the Tau only seem to use the futuristic equivalent of a flashbang and not something with more lethal kick to it.
>>96841748>Anything with 0 ap is kind of worthlessNogames spotted.
I do not like how uninvolved demons are in warhammer outside of Aos, and even there they aren’t heavily utilized. I guess if I liked kh’bhanda id be happy with his involvement in 30k, but overall, gw has no fucking idea how to utilize chaos efficiently.
reminder this is an upgrade to just having modern plastic squats as a proper army, you bigoted grognard chud. Don't ask why there's no explanation for pic related either, GW knows best.
>>96841748Eh? These days grenades are a stratagem that does morties
>>96841763>demons
GW stinks.
>>96841764Eh? Not sure what you mean, they ARE a proper army, that- OH you're being pissy about brown skin, nvm
>>96841770Look man people here get bitchy when people call dark eldar drukhari, I’m not fucking calling demons daemons. It’s fucking dumber than any of gws other trademark titles in 40ks or Aos.
>>96841762How would I know they do 0 ap if I never played games? Checkmate gaytheist.
>>96841745>Instead of a handful of fanciful supersoldiers and a massive but ill-governed territory, I would've focused on improving the territory I did have to the best level that it could be, and then giving my soldiers better gear and training such that each individual Guardsmen would be Tempestus Scion tierBut he did, and they were. About 25% of the Exertus was Solar Auxilia style forces, which are kind of what Codex Stormtroopers wished it was. The rest was mostly regular Imperial Army, but with actual Navy support. And there were about twice as many marines as there are now.Then He died.And it had worked, considering they pushed back the horrors old old night and subdued wielders of dark age tech in a time where assault cannons and storm shields hadn't yet been invented, or were barely on early access phase. The Imperium sealed with Orks far more dangerous than Gahzakull multiple times
Reminder that sex with aliens is the most natural human instinct there is and no Imperium can claim to be of 'Man' unless it encourages it
>>96841772that's right whale, it's a good (like primaris before the rugpull) army and you don't deserve ANY explanation to a new faction and retcon.
>>96841763I bet that Kairos doesn't speak german
My collage entry is going to be pretty cool this month, I think, but I'm pressed for time because I got this sick this month and had already spent a bunch of time on a slutty vampire
>>96841763Has there anybody who’s gotten screwed more than Kairos Fateweaver? Poor guy’s gotten his plans screwed by Khorne so many times.
>>96841791The problem with the Emperor's plan was that he ran a sort of...'looting based economy' so to speak. Basically, he didn't really improve the places that he conquered, but rather he just went from planet to planet, conquering them and then taking their stuff for his army.This worked out fine initially, and he presumably wasn't planning on his plan with the Primarchs backfiring, but either way, in the end it did backfire, and that's why the Imperium is such a decayed shithole.
>>96841753Just assume they have normal nades as well, since they're able to shit out mortal wounds with them like everyone else can
>>96841790Because you're spouting shit random shit you've seen here while lurking, and now they no longer have a weapon profile, just a generic Strat with some armies have their own version.
>>96841796Defective clone? What even is that thing? Looks like a sort of giant at or something.
>>96841816Is there a mathematical difference between this and just having you roll one D6 for the amount
>>96841818Giant snake-woman, the 'antenna' appear to be mechanical so those might just be machinery.
I love my big red wife magnus the red
an Imperial Fists chapter master told me the Vostroyan Firstborn are the next guard regiment becoming plasticthoughts?
>>96841820You can't roll a 0 on a d6.
Ork bros how are we holding up?
>>96841818Screw it, adding the full pic but including censor bars just in case>How is this Warhammer 40kVorgh are canonically Titan-sized auxillaries of the Tau so sex with giant alien ladies is canon
>>96841833Not with that attitude
>>96841829Cool but Guard are dead to me until this shit gets undone
>>96841829He's a liar because GW squatted them this edition
>>96841829>got multiple pieces in the art showcase>red gobbo model is vostroyan themedHowever, the Mordians have been showing up in the lore recently...
>>96841842Does she want to sex me or eat me or stuff me in her cooch. All are equally fine
>>96841860Possibly all three, but most like sex and cooch you
>>96841812He did improve them. Do realize that most planets weren't conquered, but liberated instead. Freed from alien domination.We only get to hear about DAoT survivors because often those were the only guys capable of putting up a fight, and most of the time they were actually corrupted by A.I. ("The Robusts"), aliens ("Interex"), or Old Night Horrors ("The Dark Judges").And when they were defeated, their technologies were plundered and used to advance the imperium as a whole – the crusade was begun without Terminator armour after all.It is now, 10k years of stagnation later, that many worlds are run down and decadent. But even then, the worst Hive World isn't as bad as Galaspar, and Galaspar was very tame in comparison with other compliances, and the Death Guard made it into a decent place. And they aren't known for their kindness, so you can imagine most other legions were better.But yeah 40k current day is bad lol. I mean that's the setting
Does anyone have that one image of blood angels where they look really weird like out of a mtv magazine?
>>96841743kys you piece of shit, die die die die DIE DEI DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
>>96841842Oh some sort of reptile with antennae. Aight. Not in the modd rn, but it's okay awooga. Didn't know Tau had auxiliaries that big, knight sized (Krootasaurs are as real as Necron Pariahs)Idk if I'd care about Tau auxiliaries. I don't respect Kroot because they both can't wear armour (useless to their shape shifting metabolism) yet they also choose not to grow a carapace or something. Sangheili prove you can be a lizard and wear power armour.And crab and fungi using guns would look like weird tyranids
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>>96841872With the black and chinese blonde angels? Not even joking. I'm also looking for that pic
>>96841886>Raven Guard Moritat blasting Can you hear the silence
>>96841865idk everyone always goes "its too late, the Imperium is fucked" but like..>Cawl is one bit of technology from being able to seal the rift>Guilliman is basically done securing the galactic south>he doesn't even have the Lion with his teleportation bullshit yet to incorporate into plans>a shit ton of lore threads are all gonna be coming together in the near-ish future
>>96841865The part I would've done differently if I was the Emperor was how I used the primarchs. The Emperor had four entire primarchs who were experts in engineering, architecture, infrastructure, infrastructure, etc. These are men who could could have and should have been used to build up the Imperium.As it stands, you have guys like Dorn, master builders, who would liberate a shithole like Necromunda from Orks and then just...fuck off. He'd get a tithe of men and material, and then he'd leave. What a waste, with him and his other brothers he could've turned such a planet into a paradise.
>>96841906Even if the Imperium fixes the Great Rift, the situation is still fucked because the Imperium still lost a bunch of ground and planets while the Rift was open. Plus I really, really doubt that they're going to just...undo the Rift.
>>96841888I mean I’d take that but I’m thinking of the very Italian looking dudes that look coked up.
>>96841886Unironically cool. 40k needs more rootin tootin shootin units
>>96841931
>>96841842>>96841796Vorgh exist for you to take anime titty statues and stick tau riptide guns on them and run them as knights
Did you lads have any games this weekend?I got to send my Vindicator on its maiden voyage, it did good work. Mostly killed (dropped them to 1-2 wounds which something else picked up) a couple of Invictors and ate a bunch of hits before finally folding, definitely earned its points back.
>>96841934I should make my next Inquisitor a gunslinger..
>>96841906What is cawl doing? 10k years and his research basically produced:1. Literal steroids for marines (to put them on par with CSM Cult Marines)2. Guns a bit bigger to go with said marines3. New tank floating suspension (somehow incompatible with bikes)
>>96841948Primaris were better than cult marines, csm were the last marines to go to 2W
My friend made an animated 40k video for our ongoing campaign. It's the intro lore where the Tau take over an Imperial system before all hell breaks lose and 8 factions fight over it.https://youtu.be/O-4TYeLEU6Q?si=giboDIhtEYn0Qzd3
>>96841953Yeah but then it turned out all marines were 2W and primaris were basically just marines with +1A and so were cult CSM, so basically Cawl matched with science what CSM had been doing with sorcery and daemons for 10,000 years unmatchedI don't have a problem with that
>>96841948>What is cawl doing?his upcoming book is him going back in time to the War in Heaven to steal peak Necron technology to rebuild the blackstone pylon network and seal the rift.
>>96841743Do you guys know any people who got into 40k cause a vtuber did? I know quite a few myself.
>>96841956>time travel plotPlace bets, what stupid shit is this going to lead to?>Cawl accidentally causes the WIH>Cawl becomes the Silent king or some shit>Cawl accidentally reverses the horus heresy and we get the Dornian heresy instead>[Insert some other stupid shit here]
>>96841931Cypher needs to be able join Imperial armies again.
>>96841963>Dornian heresyTruly the gayest fanfics ever made.
>>96841963nothing actually because the plot is setup to be self-contained:>the place they are going is located on the edge of the event horizon of an artificially created black hole>they won't be "actually" time travelling, the Emperor giga banned that>just space-time tunneling to allow access from current 40k to the trapped WIH planet which is more or less in stasis due to the black hole>anything they do cannot influence the timeline in any way thanks to gravitybasically the only question is "do they get the mcguffin tech to unlock the secrets of blackstone or not?" if they do>rift is sealed>imperial worlds are basically immune to daemonic attacks>birthrates of dangerous alpha+ psykers goes down>could even make warp travel saferthe events of the book is a possible GG for the Imperium over Chaos.
yes anon we get it you hate niggers. take it to /pol/ please.
40k needs more Asians. I mean that.
Does your wife's boyfriend know you're posting this?
>>96842016This ones cute I dont even get the need to post this
How about we post models instead of being race-baiting schizos?>entry for this month's collage>spooky necron flayer overlord
>>96842023This is actually pretty well done.
40K Black Edition tonight
>>96842027thanks anon :)
>>96842023Anything but this
I posted my kitbash of this guy before i painted him a few days ago. Lt with combi weapon using the Reaver Lt model.
>>96841988>the events of the book is a possible GG for the Imperium over Chaos.So absolutely not happening then, great.
>>96842044nice, gj anon
>>96842023Has bob ross anon posted the anchor yet? I havent seen him
>>96842044
>>96842057he's posted a couple but I haven't been in the thread at the same time as him yet. I'm sure he'll get me in the archive though.
>>96841732Hey guys, it's once again time for the collage anchor posts. This months theme is "something spooky" and was left up to your own interpretation.As always I'll check the archive too but submitting your models in reply to my anchor posts is the best way to not be missed. I'll try to make a post every thread the next 7 days.Here is the link to the november vote:https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1PQ0BnW>>96842023Very nice
>>96842063Spooky appearance as soon as your mentioned
>>96842058that’s my titan proxy
>>96842066Speak of the devil and he shall appear
>>96842020It's always women with half shaven haircuts. Like, I don't mind blacks, that's just what they look like.But half shaven heads? That's a choice.
>>96842063Nice timing, glad to catch you.Here's my deep-sea inspired ravener.
>>96842063>bob likes my modelis this what its like when a girl says she likes you?
>>96841936There is that...>>96841948Plus isn't Cawl's whole schtick that he's just one guy, so no matter what he invents, he's not gonna be able to change the Imperium as a whole since the Mechanicus itself remains as conservative and rigid as ever?
I actually think Emperors Children straight up stealing World Eaters Schtick of army wide advance charge was for the better. In the past WE and right now EC are very one note. They have one gameplan and thats engage the enemy and mince them faster than they can kill you. From the competitive side it was EC was really strong 55%+ winrate initially but as got used to it and powercreep started setting in they fell off hard. Meanwhile WE now have much more controlled style of play with more options in how they engage and punish an opponent. Most of the damage is still in Fight Phase but they arent so one note anymore
>>96842075yooo that is awesome. looks like a kaiju
>>96842075Awesome
>>96842023Nice work man
>>96842083>>96842088Thanks guys, glad u like it. I wanted to try something spooky but in a different way than typical ghools and goblins.
>>96842077This is a bad place to ask that.
>>96842095The deep sea is pretty scary yeah
>>96842055Whats that cyborg lady supposed to be?
>>96842044>reiverIs he for the collage? They are kinda cute campy spookylike
>>96842074
does anyone know why the search button doesnt work on 4chan?
>>96842138Use desuarchive to search unless you're trying to find an active thread
So is Guilliman just a grumpy boomer then?>"Back in my day, we didn't have religion or shoot people for being friends with aliens! No sir, we killed anyone who was religious and we enslaved the children of people who were friends with aliens and worked 'em to death, yessir, that's how you do it."
>>96842113I hope they add it!
>>96842023Added glaze to the intestines
>>96842154Oop would've responded to your post>>96842063
Fuck off with the spam fecalfag
>>96842081I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't think that playstyle in particular fits with Emperor's Children.I don't know what the alternative is besides Noise Marine focus (spam) though.
>>96841763Anon, demons are being removed from 40k and will be AoS only. That's why they do stuff there and not here
built my collage submission. gonna sponkify the base some morehope i can finish it in time
>>96842123Lmao they do Asians worse
Saturday and friday nights sure have been extra shit lately with shitposting
it's hard to tell but this is meant to be a woman. say something nice, 40k fan.
>>96842254Makes you wonder about the kind of people spending weekend nights browsing a Palestinian embroidering forum.
>>96841931You could always get the indomitus chaplain's Absolvor Bolt Pistol and give it to NotReaper Chaplain for that particular bash.
>>96841820Yes, this weights the probability so you're more likely to get a middle value. Also it's a 0 to 6 range. On a d6 every result is equally likely.
anyways, I think that's enough humiliation for now. By the way, since this doesn't bother you, you should probably know the same artists that got commissioned to do the feminist/black washing art for MTG on behest of Wizards of the Coast also got hired to do the art for Black Library and codex artwork. Thought you'd like to know, since the people running MTG hate their own fanbase and are actively trying to replace them. Guess what that says of GW since they've got borderline the same MO? Anyways Age of Shitmar general is less reddit than here because they at least call this pozzed shit out. You guys eat it up then ask it to fuck your girlfriend too.
>>96842278ok
whatevr now fuck off
>>96842223noise marines could have a special attack akin to the current astra militarum deathstrike launcher (toned down ofc) to force opponents to move their units out of position so their melee can rush inthere's a million other better options for playstyles but 10th edition (and modern games workshop) aren't really equipped to lean into army asymmetry to that degree
Hey if I take Plague Marines in a Chaos Marine army, does that special rule do literally nothing
>>96842317correctyou might take them for a little more bulk and lethal hits anyway I guess
>>96842278The only place that still thinks 40k is trad and based and that you should buy multiple battleforce boxes and copies of Space Marine 2 is /v/, post all that shit there
>>96841816holy FUCK they need to bring templates back
I see many painters say that they "had fun" painting certain models. When was the last time you experienced a noticeable amount of fun painting, /40kg/? Im currently painting kommandos and although they seem ok to paint i wouldnt say im "having fun" doing it, just more enjoyable than most ork units ivr painted
Shouldn't the Watchers in the Dark get the Dark Angels declared heretical?
>>96842331nah. I'm not going back to carefully spacing out my gribbly hordes
How the fuck am I going to make staves for mk2 marines to make them Rubric sorcerers
@96842278tl:drI'm pleased for you, or sorry that happned
>>96842332Fun is completely subjective, but for me the best painting sessions are when I just lose myself in the process. But finishing models is also fun, this little sword satan was a nice little treat in between more complex models.>>96842063Can sword satan be my spooky model?
>>96842023Thats very cool anon, what was your process for the skin?
>>96842063Submitting my entry
>>96842423Love these goobers. The white and orangey shades give the impression of an almost mummy-like look
>>96841799She did in my dream. Which was bizarre
>>96842063How many entries do we have so far?
>>96842423Fuck yeah, at this rate we are going to have an entire army afflicted with the flayer virus on the collage
I wonder how many permaonline reddit sigmarxists spam here. Probably quite a few, going by the thread.
>>96842333>declared hereticalBy whom? And what retard would think it's a good idea to go against a Space Marine legion especially in 40k?
>>96842332personally, I love the modelling/assembling part the most in this hobby, especially scratchbuildn ork stuff. my enjoyment in painting lies with the process itself. sure you can always be proud/happy with the finished product but I really enjoy "peeling" the finished model out of the grey, seeing glimpses of the finished artwork through the two base colors you applied. on another note I left the deffkoptas for about half a year since thinking about painting the details made my head achejust paint what you want to, don't feel bad when leaving a model half finished, don't sweat it with the quality (it will improve soon enough), MOST IMPORTANTLY remember it's a hobby and those are supposed to make fun foremosttl;dr: no fun, no spending time, only good times
>>96842474this thread has about twelve regular posters, with the shit posters, trolls and resident schizos there are maybe 40 people overall posting in these threadsthe only redditfag in this thread is the tranny jannie who's sole job is to babysit this general
start people talking about taking warhammer back from gw#ourgame
>>96842509>taking warhammer back from Gw>back from GWanon you are aware warhammer has always been GWs
>>96842509Retard
>>96842522>>96842528most raped corposlaves.
>>96842023>Spent a whole day layering the green and highligtin the gold>Still looks the same as the day beforeI know eventually it will work out, but the progress seems so imperceptible sometimes.
>>96842533why dont you make your own warhammer then, with blackjack. and white pepo.dont bother replying freak I know its only going to be winging because you have no talent, creative drive or faustian spirit.
>>96842539Well fine! I'm gonna make my own Warhammer then! With wargear! And naked ladies! In fact, forget the wargear!
>>96842539imagine being this much of a defeatist cuck, holy shit. I'd tell you to kill yourself but knowing you, you'd be too pussy to even try.
>>96842545you have never made and will never make anything worth doing. thats why you make your personality a corporate product, and demand superior black men be removed from it so you can feel safe doing so. even your agarthan ancestors pity you, reject you, for you are simply the pitiful embers of a once great roaring fire.
>>96842547stil haven't killed yourself. I accept your concession.
>>96842563I will live forever, your end comes closer
>>96842380I think he's spooky enough
>>96842563i dont get why people call you a nazi when you say that nazi had fucking drip which is objectively true.
>>96842423Naisu
>>96842575>fucking dripHugo Boss is a great brand
collage anon is going to be the death of this general
>>96842575Nobody is saying hugo boss isn't cool. Making your distaste for specific people an integral part of your personality is pretty lame
>>96842585Why. The community posters are the best thing to happen in /40kg/ in a decade. I don't think I've ever seen more active hobbying than now
>>96842585You being banned from the collage is hardly going to be the death of anything
>>96842602what do you mean im banned?
>>96842605Nobody but a slopper would have issue with the collageking
>>96842608what does that even mean.
>>96842602I think the collage is just a plan to make everyone identifiable, its why I've uploaded models I found in a random discord to the collage
What's with all of the unnecessary shitposting? It isnt adding anything to the general
>>96842585>>96842612trying too hard
>>96842616
>>96842063Mr Pumpkin, the obliterator who gave up war for farming. What could be more spooky? Probably alot of things but this is what I got.
>>96842619Looks great anon, love the glossy skin
im banned from the collage and fridge for purely political bias its really unfair to those who dont share the political views of the organizers
>>96842613Someone is either raiding or some fag is drunk. Jannies also seem to go awol or are just busier(?) Friday and Saturday nights, at least that's been the case for the past month or so. It's either the janny who works the weekend doesn't give a shit about the shitposting, or they just get the weekend off, I have no clue.
>>96842618Nobody accused you of samefaggingwhat an odd response
>>96841934
>>96842619Qt, but I don't think that macrame terrain is what the kids mean when they say pumpkin booty
>>96841939I had my first game of trench crusade but thats about it
Nobody respond to that shit
>>96842638Don't custodes have a dual pistol loadout as well
>>96842509>>96842533>>96842545Please tell us what is your plan to buy a multi billion dollar franchise from its owners?How are you going to achieve this?
>>96842602Kek, true.
>>96842630huh why is saying that the collage shit is bad for the thread suddenly a bannable offense?
>>96841732I like orks :D
>>96842332I love painting most of my ork vehiclesBig monsters like greater daemons and daemon princes are fun tooI'm pretty burned out on infantry though, aside from maybe CSM legionaries because they're pretty simple
>>96842669I was moreso talking about this shit >>96842675, but just shitting on the thing that is objectively good for the thread, and that nobody has an issue with, without having any reasoning to back it up, is shitposting to an extent albeit much milder
>>96842657no but in the past i have concepted what such a loadout would look like
>>96841975>>96841983>>96841987>>96841992>>96841998If a white man can turn black by joining the salamanders, can a black man turn white by joining the ravenguard?
>>96842688>objectivelylmao
>>96842689You're actually the reason I thought this was a thing lmao. Are they from the jetpack guys? I don't think anyone would cry if you ran pistolero custodes as bolter custodes
How dumb is it to go full dread mob?
>>96842690>can a black man turn white by joining the ravenguard?We have models of the raven guard scout marines, there were black dudes in the squad.How does that make sense? I dunno.
>>96842690Yerp
>Terminator ancient and chaplain: Can have a shield>Terminator librarian and captain: Can'tHate the lack of logic in these, god I hope they toss out this retarded design philosophy about wargear allowance in a future edition
>>96842693There's that bit about not having any reasoning lol, thank you for proving my point
>>96842706well how can i? after all its "objectively" good!!!
>>96842704You could just glue a shield on your guy, it'd probably look pretty cool
>>96842697Its pretty fun
beep beep boop boop beep
>>96842711As long as you understand. I accept your concession, last (you)
Thoughts?
>>96842677We haven't seen you post any though
>>96842745MUCHO TEXTO
>>96842749He's posted them a couple times, but I would say no to seeing them again
>>96842753Wouldn't
>tau were designed starting from discarded eldar concept sketches
>>96842757gav thorpe would know a thing or two about that, it seems his writing also comes from discarded tidbits from trash cans around the office.
>>96842659wait and let 30k collapse (it's already happening) then wait and watch shitmar collapse (it's only kept in suspended animation by GW despite how bad it's selling to anyone not a whale) oh and then wait for 40k to collapse because these new rules are ungodly rancid dogshit that only competition faggots are keeping alive with metamonkey lists. Get a crowdfund to buy the rights to the LOTR tabletop game since GW let it die then never look back on those miserly kikerats.
>>96842231What if GW removes daemons from 40k to replce them with forge of souls/Vashtorr daemons and chaos xenos?
>>96842775Chaos doesn't deserve Xenos because Daemons suck
>>96842785blue and pink horrors say otherwise, anon.
>>96842775Daemons should just be completely folded back into their respective god legions and then into the regular CSM book.Vashtorr doesn't need his own daemons. Also they don't even make sense since Vash isn't even a god, just a random homeless shmuck that crashes in the forge of souls.
>>96842767pathetic larp
>>96842790Maybe the old Diaz sculpts at bestTo iterate: adding Chaos to Xenos 95% of the time means making said aliens less alien, because Chaos is flanderized and inherently human-coded at this point>>96842794This "solution" is also pretty bad and makes the daemon situation only worse
>>96842797so is being a niggerloving leftist posing as a 40k fan, but then again we have this entire board of astroturfed sigmarxism adjacent fags who pretend as if ten years ago anons weren't making Wehrmacht guards armies. They all left because who wants to stick around fucking buzzkilling normgroids like you? Fuck off to LA or Canada if you love being a faggot so much.
>>96842775gw is too creative bankrupt to make some chaos alien auxiliaries, but cyberdemons will happen.
>>96842805Lmaoing at pathetic poltard tourist.
>>96842805You think about gay shit too much
>>96842805black blaaaaaaaaaack blaaaaaaaacks i cant stop thinking about blaaaaacks
>>96842767(you)
>>96842801>This "solution" is also pretty bad and makes the daemon situation only worseIt doesn't.It's how daemons started off as in 40k. They were just part of the same fucking book as chaos marines.And that was intentional design by GW. And it was fine, good even.Chaos marines didn't get access to all of the shit that loyalists did, but they made up for it by having daemons, sorcerers and daemon engines.But chaosfags got pissy about the fact that they HAD to take daemons in their army when they only wanted to play chaos marines. Eventually GW did the stupid thing and gave in, and separated daemons from the CSM.Which has then onward spawned the god forsaken "we want what imperium has but with spikes!" shit.GW separating daemons and CSM and even the lost and the damned from the same book, was a mistake.Even the cult legions shouldn't be their own separate armies.Perfect evidence of this is the fucking Thousand Sons and World Eaters, both of them should just be codex supplements to the regular CSM book. Same goes for DG and EC.
This is what my frens gifted me!
>>96842767This is a stupid idea and will never work.
>>96842824There's no good reason we shouldn't be able to have both a full Daemons army AND CSM armies with Daemons in themJust bullshit GW reasons
>>96842824And I am the opposite! I dont care about marines or humans amd I want my monsters!No, I don't want Chaos Daemons to become even more of an afterthought compared to what they are now. Its fucking embarrassing and makes me think less of Chaos mortals because their very object of worship is kinda abysmal dogshit with questionable scultps and bad fluff.
>>96842805>m.jpg
>>96842767a fantasy wargame will not cover the needs of a sci fi wargametrench crusade, one page rules, konflikt47, starcraft, they're all rising to the challenge with plasticif gw falls, one of them rises, you won't get your golden age, you will just get your next generation of pyramids
>>96841983His arm is way too thin, the artist fucked up twice
>>96842809>gw is too creative bankrupt to make some chaos alien auxiliariesBut there's actually a lot of cool chaos xenos described into several codexes now. Not as a race but single minis there's a lot of them canon already
>>96842837>No, I don't want Chaos Daemons to become even more of an afterthoughtIn the past they weren't an afterthought and they had a reason to exist, they were meant to give CSM a certain edge over the loyalists on tabletop.They only became an afterthought AFTER GW separated them from the CSM.You retard.
>>96842850could be worse
>i want modern GW to add chaos xenos into the game!This is how you get the Imperial Agents codex treatment.
>>96842851but gw won't do them, they can't be bothered and they genuinely cannot design them
>>96842452Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how the scheme looks overall even if I'm not thrilled with how these turned out>>96842464Only thing spookier than a metal skeleton is a metal skeleton covered in flayed flesh
>>96842854>they werent an afterthought, they were just an appendix to a larger army of CSMCome on bro.>>96842851I am not sure what you mean, there are xenarchs, which we know jack shit about, there are yu'vath which we only know vague aesthetics of and the fact that they might've made rak'gol and there are couple of others that are mostly from BL.There is a single artwork of like, nurgle orks and some BL shit also had uhhh slaaneshi sslyth I think.There really is not a lot of them.
>>96842858no because chaos has one book it throws everything undivided, unlike the imperium that needs a separate book for everything that doesn't fit in their 4 wings: primaris, sororitas, guard, admech
>>96842826yay frens :D
>>96842875>Chaos needs EVERY imperium toy and half the xenos toys and its own stuff and HH stuff and its all should be one soupbook that is 4 times the size of others but costs the samelol. lmao even
>>96842826I'm glad you were able to come out to them.
>>96842235the base has been sponked
>>96842867>having a proper purpose and actual reason, from a gameplay and narrative wise, to exist within the army>nuh uh bro, this is an afterthoughtGo eat sand, retard.People like you are exactly the ones why 40k keeps getting enshittified with every passing edition.
>>96842867Nah anon not art, there's descriptions in the codexes tho, in the first WE codex theres an eight armed eight headed xeno. Surprsingly lots of chaos xenos that are mentioned off hand in some text box
>>96842877I also got a Leviathan Dread but that's for the other thread
>>96842909>gameplayI never touched on the gameplay.>narrativeTheir narrative always has been a horrible afterthought, just because there were some admittedly cool rules about summoning them doesn't make their part in worldbuilding and fluff less bad. Another large part of what I am talking about is aesthetics, they just look really bad.
>>96842881I said nothing of the sort, I'd never consider giving chaos corrupted versions of the existing xenos, only new exclusively chaos xenos they use piecemeal, and if anything in the past I've argued in favour of reducing the amount of parallels with the loyalists tools, regardless of how modern or from the hh they are.one undivided book and one supplement for all the gods-aligned shit is more than enough for chaos
>>96842942your conditions are acceptable
Why does 40k attract racebaiting schizos like the one itt? If earth, a single planet, has dozens of different ethnicities and identities it would only make sense for an entire galaxy to be full of people from all sorts of backgrounds and groups. If anything it would activly be weird if guard regiments and space marine chapters were monoethnic given they usually have an entire planet or multiple ones as recruiting pools, unless there's an actual solid explanation for it (Krieg using cloning for example)
>>96842922>Another large part of what I am talking about is aesthetics, they just look really bad.Then you don't like daemons. They've been like that since 40k started too and that is by design, and if you don't like that, then you don't like 40k.
>>96842953nonce artist
>>96842953Everyone in space should be british its supposed to be grimdark hello?
>>96842957No, they've been shitty FB sloppy 2nds that were ported into 40k without any thought of how they'd fit it. They're not multiversal otherwordly entities that truly dont belong in both settings, they're just as shameless of a Fantasy port as Tzaangors are (except Tzaangors actually get 40k bits).And they fit Fantasy well enough, but they look doofy and out of place in 40k when random minor xenos look more alien/otherworldly/eldritch than daemons, which is embarrassing.>Then you don't like daemonsYes and they deserve more and better, because there are some glimpses of ingenuity hidden inside heaps of trash, like Aetheric Dominions.
>>96842953nta, our single planet developed multiple races over hundreds of thousands of years of natural evolution with very little tech involvedcolonists of distant planets have been isolated from one another for only a few tens of thousands of years at most, and in the vast majority of those cases their evolution has had nothing to do with nature, but artificial biomes, genetic engineering, and, you know, clothes and food supplements and medicine and shitit is unreasonable to expect black people or asians to suddenly start reappearing on colonised worlds in the vast majority of instances, it is possible for them to have been involved in the foundational wave of colonists, but all such bottlenecks would have then produced roughly monoethnic groups on the colonised world, so the planet wouldn't have the same multiethnic composition of some of our societies it is also silly to imagine them being the only ethnicities mankind could possibly produce
>>96842991Your own logic doesn’t hold up with itself
>>96842996yes, it does, you're just failing your reading comprehension
>>96842953Most people live in dark damp hives and never see the sun. 99% of the imperium should be pale.
>>96843013some people live on desert worlds
>>96842063Here's my entry
>>96843009I don’t think you know what comprehension means
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96843030That artist makes dark eldar look even more lame and gay
>>96843019Nice
>>96842953This artist isn't nonce enough
>>96841764Quick rundown of all relevant points:>Necromunda truSquat character range didn't produce enough sales to warrant said design language being carried over>LoV are a very elaborate meta joke hitting on multiple layers>LoV are designed as a tongue in cheek jab at Blizzard ripping off 40k by "stealing back" the Terran Marine design>LoV are designed as an even bigger hamfisted dig at Firstborne old guard Space Marine players as not only are Firstborne known for their "squat" posing but the utterly scale decimating and final nail in old guard credibility as Kin are almost as tall as Firstborne>most damningly the LoV were released quite literally during the period when most Firstborne kits were being "Squatted">finally LoV occupy a CRUCIAL LegoDad/DRG ROCK AND STONE memelords buy in point to paint their epic dwarfs throwback Lego set colorways and in nostalgic 80s cartoon schemesThis isn't even touching on the degenerate meat puppet science as God redditor digs the kin supercomputers work out to be. All in all tippy top British humor that I hate I can even recognize and question what quintessential life experiences I missed out on while obtaining such insights.
>>96842990>ablooblooYeah, I don't give a shit. Daemons are fine as is.You just don't like 40k, go find another setting.
>>96843053You also forget that GW originally showed them off and revealed them on an April Fool's day.Like that shit was intentional, they knew what they were doing.
>>96843027I'm not surprised you're confused by words, on the other hand.
>>96843053This is what unmedicated schizophrenia looks like gentlemen
>>96842991>colonists of distant planets have been isolated from one another for only a few tens of thousands of years at most, and in the vast majority of those cases their evolution has had nothing to do with nature, but artificial biomes, genetic engineering, and, you know, clothes and food supplements and medicine and shitA few ten thousand years is all it took for earth to develop it's ethnic groups though, humans haven't been around for longer than 20 thousand years iirc. Given different planetary conditions I wager that process would have happened even more rapidly in some places. Also I don't think imperial worlds have artificial bioms and so on even if I might be wrong because I hardly see mention of these things in lore except for maiden worlds, even than most planets in the imperium reverted back to backwards types of living comparable to stuff even lower than our own, it's not a jump to assume some planets would have citizens with higher melanin levels. Occam's razor man...>it is also silly to imagine them being the only ethnicities mankind could possibly produceAbsolutely agreed, 40k should have generally more variety of groups specially given different biochemical properties of stars, planets and so on even if the habitable ones are somewhat close to Earth there should still be major differences. The salamanders should be blue like those fuckers from Africa with so much melanin on their skin they turnn blue and other places should have grey like people with naturally bad and corroded teeth from eating exclusivly rations and slop food for the last 500 years, people from forge worlds shoukd naturaly have iron lungs attached and be allergic to natural oxygen and so on.>>96843013That's like 30% of the imperium and even than it depends on which hive and where because sun properties, radioactivity and so on. Agreed that hive scum should have fucked up complexion though
>>96843053i think you need to log off for awhile dude...
>>96843078>>96843085Why must we be like this?>>96843061The degenerating kin facial art being straight out of a Portland rally mugshot compilation is also an incredibly British commentary on the ideologies behind the kin. Second best memeface compilation from GW after the Poxwalkers.
>>96843090Who's we?Take your meds
>>96843079>A few ten thousand years is all it took for earth to develop it's ethnic groups though, humans haven't been around for longer than 20 thousand years iirc.you remember incorrectly>Also I don't think imperial worlds have artificial bioms imperial worlds have artificial biomes, hive cities are essentially that, pre-imperial worlds were daot societies, they absolutely had artificial biomes, as well as advanced medicine, gene editing, food supplements and wearable protection from weather and radiation
>>96843079Let's just agree to disagree.
>>96842953I'm sick of racebaiters too BUT we know WHY there's been a dramatic increase in black women on every cover and every model range GW has put out in recent years, and we can't pretend we don't. Its absolutely not that the staff of GW just had some kind of epiphany on the internal logic of what the racial makeup of their characters should be.
>>96843097Is it le jews?
man do you ever watch those cat videos on the internet and sometimes its some woman showing off how cute her cat is in the shower? i just cant stop thinking about the fact that if shes in the shower too then shes filming that video while shes completely naked, like if she just had one bad angle she would have shown every thing off. i just cant stop thinking about that when watching videos like that. my god.
>>96843097no one actually reads the books, like there are black marines in some of the oldest novels (even the ones that have excerpts in 3e codexes). If you remember when dawn of fire had its cover dropped all the supposedly not racist but anti-diversity folks had to pull this "ok but are we sure black marines are possible, I'm not racist but are we absolutely sure it is canon compliant" so the way you fix this is by putting them on covers
>>96843097You don't need to pretend to be retarded.Everyone knows it's because of GW being a publically traded company and nowadays most investors (mainly blackrock, but not only them) demand you add in some shit that appeals to the left leaning populace.But we don't have to talk about it 9 times a week, because it just isn't productive or even fun.
>>96843127>Everyone knows it's because of GW being a publically traded company and nowadays most investors (mainly blackrock, but not only them) demand you add in some shit that appeals to the left leaning populace.oh we're going full conspiracy theory now
blackrock wants GW stock so they can make 40k weapons irl without having to worry about copyright.
>>96843095Fair enough. Different people have different takes on the setting and as long as it's not one that fundamentally fucks up the tone of the setting (X faction is the good guys, femmarines, capeshit and so on that you see on this board basically every day)>>96843097There's something profoundly evil about both the modern left and modern right's obsession with the idea someone's race is inherently political, as if a movie can't just have a black guy without it being an act of activisim that should be praised/hated. I don't particularly care for modern GW lore so im a bit out of the loop but as long as it's not mixed regiments in the guard im fine with a black space marine captain or 2 or some asian pimp rogue trader
lmao @ nids
I wish we had ids, or at least had the thread counter back.
>>96843128>conspiracy theory15 years of this culture war crap and we still have these marxists telling us it isn't real.
>>96842638>corsair shooty lady not includedBros... Forgotten... Once again..
>>96843128Blackrock/jews thing might be a conspiracy it isn't but that they're doing this to appeal to leftists is absolutely true.
>>96843138because it isn't? centuries of globetards trying to say the earth is round etc
>>96843127>Everyone knows And they're wrong. The reality is that the creatives working for these companies are fully into the "woke zeistgeist" and so do many of the managers.I know first hand one fully owned by Saudi Arabia royals (hardly left wing types), and they don't give a fuck while the money keeps flowing.
>>96843141and what's the end goal exactly?
>>9684295340k era humanity is canonically mutted to hell and back.This is why I'm an eldar enjoyer
Does your country have a chapter that represents it?
>>96843130There's 'just having a black guy' and then there's three black female special characters in a row as GW did in AoSThat particular combo has become so stand-outingly common that I have to assume they have a particularly proactive diversity officer who makes a point of approaching on the design process of every new character and asking 'why not make it a black woman?'
Warhammer40k amiritelads?
>>96843127Blackrock is a /pol/ boogeymanThey're an investment firm mostly managing people's 401ks and pensions/pol/tards can't imagine this stuff coming from within GW it always has to be the outside boogeyman
>>96843155No. techincally i should say space wolves, but considering they decided to make their accents more swedish then i refuse to associate with them.
>>96843155Space wolves I suppose, being Swedish. But they're so profoundly gay that I refuse to associate with them.
>>96843163Are you from one of the countries that speaks a version of Swedish but you've got balls in your mouth while speaking?
finished my crabnifex. Going to paint 3 leapers with active urban camo
>>96843155Is there a slav-inspired chapter? I don't really care about lore so I don't know desu
>>96843167Sweden is below my country, not geographically but on the hierarchy.
>>96843138>>96843141>>96843161funny how muh Blackrock conspiracies never mention the harm they do to the public real state and healthcare sectors in many countries. Because that goes against who pays the shills in /poo-ol/
>>96843163>>96843167>>96843171I thought you nordic fellows liked each other, what's the deal here
>>96843030You idiot fool.You already monkey pawed away the most boatarific start collecting box ever created in favour of some haemonculus shit.
>>96843175Sweden is a muslim country nowadays. I do like norway and finland though.
>>96843173This is 40kg and we are discussing the harm they are doing to 40k. We're already on shaky ground and will probably catch a vacation anyway when the janny (who does it for free) wakes up.
>>96842757Not just discarded eldar concept sketches, self-admittedly poorly done sketches produced by a 15-17 year old Gav Thrope.
>>96843184I sure wish they deleted other off topic shit as quick and often as they do tranny and jew shit
>>96843161these things are not mutually exclusive. you can have employees who send their paychecks to BLM and think Antifa are just grandmas and you can have these investment firms enforcing these initiatives from the top down.
>>96843170Nah, they pretty much pulled an Australian first fleet on their adopted home world, which is described with both dense forest and arid climate inhabitanted by massive lizards, they pretty much rocked up and saw the native humans, considered them too primative to lay claim to the world and took it for them selves.Now the flesh tearerz initiates are all a bunch of crocodile Dundee hunters.
Since we’re being off topic, are there any /fit/ anons here? I’ve been doing some squats with a single 50 pound dumbbell, and have been motioning it forward with both hands as I squat. Recently, it feels like it’s not doing anything, so I’ve tried being more dynamic with my motions with the dumbbell, I have been motioning it by my shoulders and horizontally by my stomach rather than just motioning it front of me. I have to question if this is actually achieving anything and if this is just an exaggerated stretch.
>>96843181We have a lot of problems but what you're saying is a gross exaggeration. We're taking steps to rectify things but it's a slow process.
>>96843199You are too late, Erik.
>>96843157as opposed to how many white special characters has warhammer gotten?
>>96843196SLAV as in SLAVIC, anon
>>96843203I have hope
>>96843199https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen_(pronoun)nah you niggas are too far gone
>>96843204Angloid game, woketard.
>>96843184>we are discussing the harm they are doing to 40k.yes so this massive investment firm is going to buy stock in GW, but not to make money like everyone but instead they are going to *check notes* make GW introduce more non white male characters which is *check notes again* something GW would have never ever done naturally. This move is to specifically damage 40k because obviously having black characters will do damage because reasons.
my god this thread is really /tg/s containment thread for shitposting
>>96843177It's a fine box.To buy once.At a discount.
>>96843169looks good man
>>96843208No one uses that really
I'm here to remind you guys that Adolf Hitler is one of the former incarnations of the Emperor.
>>96843217Naw, that's Stalin.
>>96843205Oh right, soz am sleep deprived.Maybe imperial fist or the gang style of the lunar wolves?
>>96843212>one post about games>one replyyou're not wrong
>>96843212No, it unfortunately leaks to other threads and generals. This is just its main hub.
>>96843209where a game is from dictates what race characters will be?
>>96843195The thing is this stuff is mostly ground up, chuds believe anyone left of maga is pretending
>>96843216thats the only good side-effect of sweden having become a muslim country, the moment you kick them all out you are just going right back to appealing to trannies.
>>96843219It's Hitler.
>>96843209Guess what, Britain has black people too
>>96843219>>96843229Ladies, ladies, please.Pol Pot.
>>96843212
>>96843225Generally, yes. Why wouldn't it>Why is this Japanese game filled with Japanese people and not Arabs?Asked by no one ever
>>96843231It didn't like 30 years ago.
>>96843234Ah yes, metal gear, the game filled with the Japanese and no other nationality’s.
>>96843208>culture war shit en vogue in 2014Sweden has fallen. Millions must emigrate to the land of the western browns.
>>96843234Street fighter?
>>96843236You're retarded, most black people here are from the caribbean and are now 3rd or 4th generation, having arrived in the 1950s/60s.
Now he's pretending he doesn't understand what generally means
I wish we had jannies
>>96843244I don’t even know how to respond to this
>>96843244No they are not, you are not paying attention.
>>96843234>/v/tard isn't even aware of all the jrpgs full of obvious white people
>>96843233>carnac pretending he isn't the sole problem user
>>96843212It is.It didn't use it to be but it slowly has become one because practically nobody here plays the game.Most people who are serious about hobbying go to /wip/ because that thread actually centers around discussing a proper topic, and since it is a certain topic it instantly filters out fuck loads of shitposters who will instantly be found out if they try their antics.
>>96843054>No argumentation found, only random ass accusationsI accept your capitulation in this reply chain. Daemons are in a terrible shape overwhelmingly and live up to neither their own fluff nor the (rare) good art they have.The anon that made picrelated has a better idea of what daemons should look like than GW, honestly.
How should I go about building a 1000 points black legion starter force? I'm new to the game and there is just so much shit going on. Abaddon looks cool but seems expensive at that point level. Would a chaos sorcerer be cool as a leader instead? Can I include noise marines and khorne berzerkers, too? Have a great Sunday and death to the false emperor, everyone!
>>96843255No people here still go there and by people I mean the shit flingers sadly
>this thread
>>96843234What about legend of zelda?Or Bayonetta?Or Pokemon X&Y and Scarlet & Violet?
>>96843258The first step to starting 40k is actually to seek out the places where you would most likely be playing it and checking it out to make sure the people there aren't dealbreakers on their own
>>96843211We know where the CEO of Blackrock (use to) stand on the issue and how he used his company to spread those beliefs. Anyone can google it, they come from his own mouth not some right wing forum visited by 5 people.>>96843226Its both like I said. But you are a fellow traveler so it's better optics if you can try to push the idea that making everyone into a black woman is only a 'grass roots' organic push by the intern making less than minimum wage.
>>96843257Wow, took you a whole fucking hour to come up with this cope?And not even posting your own models? You just proved me correct you don't like 40k.Go fuck yourself you fucking loser.
>>96842638Do inceptors and aggressors fit? They can run pairs of guns.
>>96843198been hitting the gym hard since the start of this year and i'm almost at a lmao2pl8 bench and a 1pl8 overhead. been slacking on my deadlifts after a back injury months agoanyways, warhammer 40,000
>>96843264>We know where the CEO of Blackrock (use to) stand on the issue and how he used his company to spread those beliefs. Anyone can google it, they come from his own mouth not some right wing forum visited by 5 people.sure let's grant that. What is the evil nefarious goal, because as of right now, you just sound racist.
>>96843258Your base will be a chaos lord, legonnaires, a rhino and cultists. These base is something you will use even at 2000 points.
>>96843263I've yet to check out the local game store but I've been burned in the past with people trying to sell anything just to make money, so I figured I'd ask here first.
>>96842704if they don't walk back some of 10th edition's "streamlining" with 11th I think I'm just gonna sell my minis for whatever I can get and find a different hobby
Maybe you guys are right, and the norm is actually that everywhere makes games about white people by default and the games about anyone else are the weird eyebrow-raising ones
The Horus Heresy novel series and its consequences have been a disaster for the 40K hobby. They have greatly increased the amount of First Founding lore of those of us who play "canon” chapters, but they have reduced creativity, made the setting increasingly retarded, have subjected hobbyists to indignities, have led to widespread internet retardation (in the LGS to physical retardation as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the perception of Space Marines. The continued writing of novels will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject hobbyists to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the game, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased retardation even in non-Marine playing communities.
>>96843274The game has been a cancer on this miniature hobby for decades. Trust me bro, just build your miniatures and be happy
>>96843198basically, you want to be thrusting the weight out as forcefully as you can the moment you're bottoming out the squat.
>>96843274Personally I predict that EVENTUALLY they will go in the opposite direction so they can yank on nostalgia-baiting to push a launch
>>96843285I'll probably just paint the minis that come with the boardgames my wife has
>>96843278Japanese are (majority) fair skinned anyway. It's not out of place for their media to have characters like that even if they are actually fat Italian plumbers or American super soldiers.
>>96843287It's the new model:>Edition that reinvents the game and streamlines to bring in new players>Edition of bloat that adds systems on top of it to milk existing player base dry>Reset and repeat with index edition after11th will be the climb and 12th will be the reset again
>>96843274you can still play literally all the editions they've previously released
>>96843265>You just proved me correct you don't like 40k.What is this dumb mantra lol>NOO you dont like 40k if you dont like shitty daemon models
>>96842023I don't know what's happening in this thread, here's a spinning chicken robot
>>96843296I think every edition is going to be an index edition now though
>>96843300Looks damn good. How many are you running?
>>96843233>the heresy should've stayed a mythYes.
>>96843310>redditors know more about it than I doFTFY
For those who run CSM, who is the leader of your warband (lore wise), your Chaos Lord or Daemon Prince?And why?
DARK ELDAR not DRUKHARIPraise Vect
>>96843299Still seething at the profound knowledge that we'll never get some mechanical daemon army led by Vashtorr as a separate faction with weird fucked up models like that art piece
>>96843319Chaos operates on the might makes right leadership system so the DP is always in charge. just hope he doesn't notice the chaos lord preparing for a hostile takeover hehehehe
>>96843319Daemon Prince. He is more powerful than the lord and like >>96843328 said might makes right.
it's kind of funny in a meta sense that modern fluff implies that Yvraine is going to be responsible for the extinction of the Drukhari
>>96843305I only have this one guy finished atm and I got only one box for now.
>>96843340The whole birth of ynnead thing even in old fluff meant somehow the DE were going to have to die.
>>96843157Black characters are a minority in GW's character roster though, I don't see why be so scandalous about it, the proportions seem pretty on point even for uk standarts
>>96843328>>96843335That’s a fair point. I’m trying to figure out how I want the exact power balance between my Lord and Prince to be for my Word Bearers warband. I like the idea of the Lord doing most of the actual leadership things while the Prince is more of an object of worship, but I’m not sure on the details. Thanks for the responses
>>96843346Less 'Ynnead needs everyone to die' and more 'the whole Ynnead tore in the webway is about to destroy commoragh
>>96843271>cultistsWhat is everyone using as proxies? The official kit looks rather shitty imo.
>>96843319The lord. They're a "use the warp for fun and profit" bunch, so the prince was more the result of experimentation than someone getting rewarded by a warp entity. If I ever get around to making a model I may try to convert something daemonhost-like. After Big E and Horus the lord is also, well, shall we say a bit disillusioned with people trying to tell him what to do.(And if keeping a pet daemonprince around sounds like a potentially hilariously bad idea then... yeah. Using the warp as a shortcut to inhuman power isn't exactly for the prudent.)
>>96843355I like and use the cultist models. But if they aren't your thing you can use the traitor guardsmen instead.
>>96843319Lord who fell due to Eldar decimating his forces and instead of admitting defeat, he turned to Slaanesh to exact revenge on the pointy-ears.
>>96843319I don't hve a dp yet, so it's my chaos lord. My sorcerer is plotting against him, however, and maybe he will transend into demonhood and take charge at some point.
>>96843393spawn himSPAWN HIM
>>96843386Good call, for some reason I completely blanked on these
>>96843325>40k's daemonic overlord of industry is polite, honest, dispassionate, and fair>fantasy's daemonic overlord of industry is a big spiteful ball of curses and seethingIs 40k actually the less grimdark setting?
i hate everyone whos better at painting than me. which is almost everyone. i just go into this jealous rage and feel like destroying all my minis. i hate all of you.
>>96843407Vashtorr is atleast one daemon actively trying to control the soul forge, hashut was a dwarf who went to the soulforge for power and became an ascendent god
>>96843411Have you tried getting better?
>>96843411Its okay anon, i'm still worse than you despite painting models for 20 years.
Do you think computers with 3d graphics exist in the imperium or is it a fallout situation where the transistor was never invented and all computers are just text
>>96843411you should direct that anger towards improving your own painting, that's definitely a healthier idea
>>96843396Haha I'm planning to, but I love the conversion I made for him, so I'll need a fittingly converted dp.
>>96843414Vashbore should've just been Hashut.
>>96843421if i direct anymore anger towards myself ill probably end up shooting up a mall or something
>>96843423He should've been peter turbo
Chaos votaan when?
>>96843430Less likely than the second squatting
>>96843427No. Enough with the primarchs already.
>>96843430Best they can do is some stupid TS robutts. Maybe some CSM war engine crew, like the WHFB Hellcannon.
>>96843430Next edition BUT they look like old squats/necromunda squats but with spikes
>>96843427I like the idea/headcanon anons here had of Vashtorr being the most powerful but exiled Forge Master and there being a council of many but equally powerful to each other (in theory) Forge masters that run the forge of souls.>>96843430Models? never, in the fluff? Mentioned in their first codex
>>96843448vashtorr does have rivals for his control over the soul forge and chaos votann have already been mentioned in white dwarf
>>96843441>BUT they look like old squats/necromunda squats but with spikesAnon i'm already onboard, no need to sweeten the pot.
>>96843430Already exist in the fluff.Model wise you probably won't get them, and honestly shouldn't get them and make them yourself.Same goes every other chaos version of X faction. Like chaos sisters, they exist but they don't need rules, just use the pre-existing ones.
>>96843430might be in that new Chaos army next edition. Lost and Damned would be a perfect dumping ground for all those weird Chaos aligned beings, be them DarkAdmech, Chorfs in Space, Chaos Xenos, Cultists and TGuard, which aren't CSMAs a separate faction, very, very unlikely
>>96843467please be darkmech pleas please please please be darkmech please
Do you ever think maybe GW should stop adding brand new armies to the game and maybe work on updating and expanding some of the smaller ranges they already sell?
>>96843477every edition since third has had a new army in some way shape or form
>>96843234Sekiro is famously the only Soulslike ever made
>>9684348610th had two new factions technically, ECs and Agents. Wonder if 11th will also have a 'proper' (but small) new faction and another catch all bullshit one
>>96843477What are you on about? Eldar and Votann both got a sizable wave of models this edition. And we got plastic Krieg for the guard. Or are you just salty and Dark Eldar got only two pity characters while loosing a good chunk of their old units?
I wish I lived in the UK for the second hand sales
>>96843494New faction corsairsCatch all agents of the eldar that includes corsairs, clowns and ynnari
>>96843501>and ynnariBut they'e just 3 character models. I hope we get aspect warriors for corsairs, as like the really old and experinced corsairs and they use the old armour design they had.
>>96843500If you have Facebook you can find plenty of those yard sells.
>A dead realm full of flowers and the insane ramblings of a trapped god A C'tan >Giant flying monsters that live in the empty giant fuck off huge docks around Commorragh, so big that they can peel through a foot! of solid armour and killing one is big bragging rights other Kabals respect>Dead Temple atop a tower in spitting distance of Vects of personal tower that no one has ever entered and lived to tell the tale and no one knows whats in thereDark Eldar are gonna be the tyranids of 11th, just a huge expansion in models for the first time since they were introduced
>>96843500You're better off just throwing all of that into the garbage
>>96843520I hope so. I hope they’re cheap too. Maybe I’ll get coven stuff.
Y'all are weebs
>>96843542He says as he posts a reverse gender anime girl
>>96843542Yes, and? Remember where you are, fag.
>>96843520None of that shit is going to happen. GW only reinvents old things and there's tons of old shit for DE they have to exploit first before they ever need to think about making something new.
>>96843552All that new stuff is in the new codex.>There's tons of old shit for DE they have to exploit firstOther than castigators and returning squatted units what else do they have
>>96843505I'd say we're due for a new vyper.The kit is nearing 30, if it isn't already, and the sky chariot formula it began has been iterated and significantly improved upon.
>>96843520>He thinks anyone gives a shit about thisNext edition Commoragh is getting destroyed by Vashtorr and the Drukhari are being shoved into the Aeldari codex. Nobody cares about garbage space elves of any flavor, the fewer releases they get the better.
>>96843568eldar are one of the more popular factions in 40k, cope with it marinepiggy
>>96843568>vashtorrrr
>>96843568Here’s your (You)
>>96843542>Cammy with pantsCompletely defeats the purpose, what the hell is the matter with you?
One day we'll have them all anons
>>96843573Yeah, but Drukhari aren't. GW's setting the stage for it already. Weak Combat Patrol, poorly performing army, sparse release this edition, they're conditioning the community to not buy into Drukhari in order to soften the blow whrn they get axed.
>>96843584>no monke elves shrieker army
>>96843584god that image is ancient
>>96843584I want Croneworld Eldar Kill Teams you can take in Chaos Daemons.
>>96843560They have four named heroes from 5th edition that had rules but no models, all the resin shit, several generic characters from 3rd and the dais that didn't make the jump to 5th, and then three Forgeworld kits
>>96843584>Fine>Borrowed time>Subfaction purgatory>Not a faction>Not a faction>Not a faction>Dead lmao also Yvraine sucks Primarch cock>Not canon>Not canon>Not canon
>>96843588First of all: they're called dark eldar.Secondly: you are delulu if you think vashtorrian the archeoelephantphant is more popular than dark eldar.
>>96843608Vashtorr is more important to lore than the entire Aeldari race simply because he's associated with Abaddon, before even getting into the finer details.
>>96843612Dark Eldar have worked on the Golden ThroneAbaddon has never even seen the Golden Throne
>>96843612(You)
>>96843588Yeah they released a new character for them to squat them next edition lmao. You're unironically a fucking shitposing retard, I'd be so glad if DE were in 11th starter box with a range refresh just to piss off dumbasses like you
I have no idea what vashtor is.
>>96843625They also got an ass load of brand new art in their codex in an edition where most Codexes just recycle old art.
>>96843632You're all caught up then because neither does GW
>>96843584The fuck is "Monstrosity"?
Based retards.
>>96843625He's a retard like the anons who denied that Vespids were getting a refresh, or that Kroot would after their kill team
>>96843647Seems like it was based off this dead eldar. Mad and mutated, compared to the Crone World Eldar that are chaos worshippers.(They might be one in the same though)
40gay
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>>96843584next edition we will have them all, it's just that it won't look like it because gw will be ass in organising them
>>96843319Technically the Daemon Prince, but he spends most of his time in his big scrooge mcduck treasure vaultThe Chaos Lord leads the charge for most smaller battle, but really the Terminator Sorcerer is calling the shots
>>96843520are you such a newfag you think tyranids never got huge expansions in models?
>>96843319The Sorceror Lord. He's lived a long damn time now since the Heresy (mostly in the Warp, so time's weird) and many of his Council are either old loyal subordinates or useful pawns, one of the former being a Legion Champion he arranged to attain apotheosis. The old man's durable as hell too, and once smacked a Stormsurge to death alongside his vanguard.
>>96843505Rumor is jump pack Corsairs, Corsair seer, new Vyper with a Corsair build option, and da Prince.So you could do a very Corsair heavy army, but you'd have to do some customizing and kitbashing of regular Eldar units to have a full 2,000 point list of piratey elfs.
Guess the 4 chapters each of these cosmetics are for
>>96843772No.
>>96843715>Harlequins in the DE book even though they canonically hang out with all flavors of Eldar equally>putting Corsairs in the webway book even though their whole deal is exploring the realspace galaxyI dunno man, I'm not crazy about your system
>>96843772Black TemplarBlood AngelsImperial FistsSpace Wolves
>>96843779keeping all the "add-ons" eldar in the smaller book makes it more practical for using that book as supplement for other stuffsupplemental units for craftworlds supplemental units for chaos supplemental units for imperial retinuesalso the main eldar book would already be big enough just with themselves and exodites, if one were to double dip the clowns and pirates then might as well put all eldar into one book and discard the idea of a second book altogether
>>96843647There's a chapter in some old book where various eldar mutants sell seashells on the seashore of some croneworld.
>>96843785Got one wrong
>>96843772Space Angmar Space VampiresSpace RussiansSpace Americans
>>96843772>BT>BA>White Scars>Quanza Corps
>>96843803Wouldn't it make more sense to spin out Exodites and Harlequins into their own Codexes, but keep Ynnari and Corsairs in the Craftworld book and keep the Dark Eldar book the same?AoS has four Aelf books, so four Eldar books for 40k isn't too many. Exodites and Harlequins are the armies with the most avenues for expansion and uniqueness compared to Corsairs or Ynnari.
>>96843779You may not realize this but Harlequins used to be in the Dark Eldar codex
>>96843868>AoS has four Aelf booksAnd HH has none, whatchu gonna do about it
>>96843871Yeah and there used to be girl Space Marines. The game and the fluff change.
>>96843876Not play HH. Why the fuck would I play an elf-less game?
>>96843868exodites are not jumping from zero models to codex
>>96843868too many booksharlequins don't deserve nor need an exclusive book
>>96843884>FeetHnnnnnnngggggggnn
>>96843887But we're pitching an ideal Eldar Codex setup, not predicting the future.IMO the ideal Eldar Codex setup would beCraftworld Eldar (featuring Ynnari and Corsairs)Dark EldarExoditesHarlequins (with rules for allying in with the other three)That way you have four books with very clear identities and routes for expansion.
What do you use for the 'base' of a terrain piece?Plasticard? I'm looking to start working on terrain soon and would like to figure out what a good, sturdy base would be for it.
If you were to compare the total amount of pleasure derived from shitting with that of fucking in your life up until this day, which one would win out in terms of quantity and quality?
I want Inquisitor Draxus to suck me dry while powerfisting my prostate
>>96843934Are you a genestealer? She's only into genestealers.
They should do some kind of study to find out why Orks are so fucking cool
I dunno what it says about me that my first thought on seeing this was "Hold the phone, why is he wearing a jump pack while riding a jetbike? That's not legal." Probably doesn't say anything good.
>>96843929I only derive sexual pleasure from tricking players with gotcha moment redeploys and reactive moves in Warhammer 40K.
>>96843963This looks like shit
>>96843980Of course it does, it has nu-sanguinary guard in it.
>>96843542This is just a girl with DA imagery slapped on.Is this how shallow and mainstream 40k is now?
>>96843964That counts
>>96843868>Wouldn't it make more sense to spin out Exodites and Harlequins into their own CodexesExodites would make sense, Harlequins no since they basically have fuck all unit variety to be made.
>>96843542I cum again
>>96843993You could make your own female dark angel marine in full power armor.
>>96843602Chaos eldar are canon, 8th ed retard.
>>96843677That is how the path works yes. The fun part is dark eldar wyches do it without the personality conditioning.
What strength level are phoenix lords at? I gueas they are below primarch-tier, but could, say, Jain Zar whoop the likes of Dante, Ragnar and Cato without issue?
>>96844023Neither do the craftworlders.And no, I don't consider Kike Brook's books as canon.
>>96844053I see them as chapter master tier
>>96844053They're Captain tier at absolute best. Generally speking a Lieutenant could fight them on even ground.
>>96844053Below marine tier on average.
>>96844053>power levels
>>96844053Depends on the primarch but Jain Zar could probably take Ferrus Manus.Maugen Ra is probably above primarch tier. He could probably take the Khan
I got to collect most of my Sisters out of storage and did a quick count and I have 4 full squads of metal battle sisters, a bunch of special weapons, some characters and an exorcist.Also im probably very late to learning this but you cant run mixed retributors now?So buying a modern box just gives you an illegal loadout unless you get two of them?
>Have EC 10 infractors and 10 tormentors>Bought another box of 10 guysShould i make them into infractors or tormentors and should i run my infractors in 5 or 10 man units?
>>96844101>Depends on the primarch but Jain Zar could probably take Ferrus ManusIn a fight, right?
>>96844101>Jain Zar could probably take Ferrus Manus.Absolutely not. She got bodied by some random Night alord shmucks. Ferrus would hit her so hard her entire suit of armor would shatter.
>>96844105It's legal to run them mixed.
>>96844109>>96844111>marinecopeMarines are the manlets of 40k lol. When will they learn?
>>96844122>loreletlmao
>>96844111>>96844101>>96844053a random mandrake was beating vulkan's ass in a 1v1 and Vulkan had to drop a flare to banish it rather than beat it in cqc because he knew he'd lostphoenix lords are above that
>>96844122Guilliman was the weakest fighter of the Primarchs and even then he can body all of the Phoenix Lords at once without any issues.Be it fluff or crunch, no Phoenix Lord is every posing a threat to a Primarch.
>powerlevel lorefaggots
>>96844023Emm, no?
>>96844109>ferrus schlongusshe'd have a hard time>>96844139>a random mandrakeI wonder if a chaos sorcerer could bind a mandrake and use it as an assassin
>>96844140>source: my assSee >>96844139Basically any eldar are above their equivalent marine.Guardians > tacticals Phoenix Lords > Primarchs
>>96844122>When will they learn?Never. They are developmentally stunted.
>>96844139Vulkan could have killed it if he wanted to, it was just more efficient to banish it that way. Marines are tactical thinkers. In the military you are taught to always cheat. Why spend the time and energy giving it the beat-down its desperately asking for when its far more efficient to just use a flare?Think, knife-ear! Think!
>It's an "Eldar fans pretend their faction isn't wholly garbage" episodeI'm getting tired of reruns.
I wish /tg/ would stop getting its fluff from a.i read youtube videos.
>>96844166I just put it on, give it a chance
>>96844105I have 4 more with flamers to pick up, an obiwan sherlock cloussea, an RT shirtless custodes and these two female warriors>>96844117Oh I'm retarded and misread the wording. Thanks Anon.
>>96844167Did u no... teh Tau onse opuned a Drednot older den teir entyre RASE?
I wish anons enjoyed talking about warhammer more than complaining about people talking about warhammer.
i love elves :)
>>96844175Lel, post them on reddit and get thousands of updoots
>>96844175those are some cool female warriors, specifically not space marines
>>96844184I fucking hate dwarves
>>96844195I think you mean theyre not adeptus astartes, because theyre clearly space marines.
>>96844177Warhammer would be much more preferable to talk about if annoying Eldarfags took the hint and fucked off.
>>96843812>and its not the space wolfBLACKED
>>96844206Oh and dwarves are ok? Fuck off
>>96841748Nigga, they do mortal wounds.
>>96844185God no.>>96844195They really are. Not sure how I'm going to paint them.Also yet another sister superior but a kitbash this time.God I have so much to paint now
So in Talon of Horus clone horus smashed that dark eldar slag into pulp, but somehow she still alive in the second novel while his wolf demon familiar dieded for good? I know K-On whis keeping her alive all the time beforehand, but he can even mend wounds brought on by a primarch right now?
When are we getting new hellhounds?
>>96844227Nobody cares about Votann, they're a non-issue.Eldarfags are whiny asshats who try to make every thread about them since GW has abandoned them within the setting.
>>96844207I can't imagine being a space wolf fan
>>96844233Oh sweaty, all primarchs do is job, don't you know this by now?
>>96844233dunno, ask /hhg/
ITT "man I wish there was more space marines. Space marines vs space marines would make for a perfect game".
>>96844234You have the grog model, the beautiful FW ones, and the 3 plastic versions. What more do you need?
>>96844236You're ignoring the space dwarf problem for which we need a final solution.
>>96844248Orks and Nids would be nice to have too.
>>96844234ain't
>>96844250My issue is that I want the plastic versions but I cant buy the plastic versions anymore
>>96844248>Eldarfag hiding behind other xenosTypical but still pathetic.
>>96841909Cawl could find an STC and would actually use it. Checkmate for the Imperium now armed with Dark Age of Technology weapons.
>>96844251they have been purged once, so it can happen again
>>96844261What you say? They're on GW's webstore.
>>96844265Dwarf hands typed this post
>>96844269Sorry. Apparently I'm the kind of stupid that doesn't know he's stupid
>>96841939I played a game of Chaos vs Necrons with my kids. One of them had a hot hand on the dice and tabled me quickly.
>>96844278same. Necrons are real strong in casual games against my army and decision-making skills specifically.
>>96844203>theyre clearly space marines.Look more like RT era SoB. Along with having "Sister" written on their tab.
>>96841983A black Black Templar.
>>96844236They got a refresh literally this year, what are you on about
>>96842044Neat.
Why does /tg/ have a 150 image limit? Can we do something about this?
>>96844203RT was a different time, you just had regular people in power armour.>image limithttp://www.solegends.com/citrt2/rt601adv/index.htm
>>96844307Talk to mods on irc or discord or whatever
>>96844203>because theyre clearly sisters of battle, which are the real female space marines
Image limit reached>>96839314>>96839314>>96839314
>>96844325Why would you do this
>>96844329mental illness
>>96844340>>96844340>>96844340
>>96842584It is, but I'm pretty sure it's now owned by an israeli private equity firm.
>>96844329To strong-arm someone into making a thread. By doing it I basically use psychology to make someone think theyre the hero - making a new thread, when really I'm the hero because theyre just doing what I commanded them to.
>>96844346I was going to make one anyway for an 8 month period i posted 99% of new threads
>>96842805Objectively correct.
>>9684295340,000 years in the future. Niggers still exist. Lol, sure.
>>96844053Drazhar dispatched three custodes guards at melee range, and he's essentially a phoenix lord
>>96844139Bro are you talking about Kheradruakh? He's literally the opposite of a random mandrake
>>96841973woke hammer 2025
