The Blood Bowl cometh editionPrevious thread>>96804923Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim,Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster......and any other GW system and board game are welcome.News: BB Third Season SOOMhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/prxigetv/sunday-preview-the-third-season-of-blood-bowl-is-underway/Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0VTQ: How would you rank GW's games?
Book should be leaked by saturday What are you hopin your team gets? All I want is for animosity to go away
>>96850764Necromunda pals, I have a few questions about specialists and genestealer cults.The rules for genestealer cults don't mention specialists, but they say one guy can take a special weapon, does that mean he's a specialist? can he spend XP like one? The rules say new neophyte hybrids can take special weapons as they are added, does this mean they can be specialists as they want for free? what if a ganger rolls a "become a specialist" advancement? does he become 20 creds more expensive for no gain?
>>96850783I just hope everybody has fun.
>>96850783I want the Yhetee to be able to throw beer boars
>>96850808Alright after extensive googling, I think I got it, they're from before specialists were a defined thing, so their rules are pretty bespoke, RAW, "specialist" only means you get to spend experience like you want, special weapons have nothing to do with it, however, this leads to special weapon spam so its recommended you bolt on newer specialist rules, with one free specialist at the start of the game, and only specialists being able to take special weapons.
/v/ related question, but does third season means Blood bowl 3 is now out of date?
>>96850783I want Chaos Chosen to gain some starting skills
>>96850808>>96850976RAW they are not specialist and you can spam Special Weapon. But you came up with the normal, rational house rule.Welcome to Specialist Games, where people joined because they can't get position at 40k department, and can't wait for a transfer. Necromunda was written by so many people nobody cares or give a fuck what's going on. Game didn't have any FAQ for a long time now, because no one at GW play this. And they had a moron making the FAQ too, it's an image so you can't even search for the words normally.
>>96850783I hope goblins get something cool with the new Devious Skills.
>>96851056Reason why you get strange interactions like the Magnacles.The rules for the thing even in the new book just say it need to do an attack action. No need to hit or wound. Forcing the opponent to make an initiative test.So you could use some Concussion carbine and give your opponet some -2 initiative and send some rookie missile with some Magnacles to lock models in place to prevent them from moving, shooting, charging.
>>96850989Blood Bowl 3 apparently won't be using the updated rules until sometime next year, or at least that's the last I heard. That means it will still be using the latest 2020 edition rules for a time after the new season of tabletop comes out
why doesnt brutefun sell his dark elves anymore?
>>96851284Nearly ever Squat hand weapon has the Power Pack rule, which is so vaguely written it's unclear if it works like a regular melee weapon and replaces unarmed attacks or if its additional attack works if the model already has two hand weapons.
>>96852052I think it's pretty clear it works like a sidearm, +1 attack that uses the power pack weapon
>>96852052If you use the Power pack weapon as your main weapon you didn't get the +1 attack. Only when "in addition to any other weapon"
What caused a shit ton of youtubers to randomly make 'Zoomers love Mordheim actually' videos randomly specifically about a year ago?Also, what Broheim warbands are worth whitelisting for a home campaign?
Painting plastic Morannon orcs right now. Not only they are terrible sculpts and I hate them, but they have so much fucking metal and so many tiny pieces of armor that doing edge highlighting is pretty difficult, especially because metallic colors behave like crap when you try to thin them. Maybe I'm just shit at metallics, but I hate how they're looking, too little contrast.Perhaps some kind of weird NMM is better for this? I don't know, it's probably my fault, it's not all on the sculpts, but man they look like crap.
>>96852702>Mordheim"Grimdark" is perfect for manchild and teenagers who want to be the modern day edgelords.
>>96852791We play 1A-1C. I think Maneaters are pretty tough to fight early on but if they take losses it's pretty costly. I also found fighting Shadow Warriors pretty obnoxious.
>>96850783I would like to see Black Orc's get a nice buff, nothing much maybe an extra movement or something else to help them out. i I get they are meant to be slow but movement 4 just results of other teams just easily outpacing them.Looking forward to seeing what they do with Humans, I hope they give allot of what's considered bad teams buffs.
Did GW ever make the different variants of space marines battlebarge and strike cruiser (Mk1, Mk2, etc)? or you were supposed to only use the same miniature? i know a that mostly chaos and imperials had modular ships and stuff like light cruiser and escorts had their different variants modeled, but what about the other factions?
>>96852052Yeah PPW is very poorly written and can be easily misinterpreted. I agree with >>96852200 interpretation as it makes the most sense after going over it previously. PPWs are weapons you can take in excess to your normal weapon limit, with a cap of 2 of them. They all have Sidearm or Melee and follow the normal rules for those, I.e. Twin Guns Blazing or close combat etc. They can be used in excess of normal weapon limits for melee in which case they give +1A using that weapon profile, otherwise they can be used normally as a Melee or Sidearm in close combat and follow the rules for that but don't get that +1A.The biggest issue with PPWs is that GW decided to add the Circular Stone Saw as an option for everyone which is great, but then only put one on the accessory sprue meaning you only get 2 from the whole accessory box. That is some absolute bullshit.
>>96852702Mordheim has always kind of been floating around, but what would have triggered a resurgence of attention is The Old World releasing which sparked discussion of the potential return of other WHFB ancillary/spin-off games. That or probably more general discussion around skirmish games in a similar vein to Mordheim. It only takes one video being successful for the algorithm to pick it up and the vultures swoop in.
>>96853825There was some variants available in BFG as profiles, but no models. FW did some stuff though since I have some of their GK Strike Cruisers, but can't recall if they did any regular Chapter bits or kits for BFG.
$145 for the new season box isn't too bad. Certainly less of a deal than the current box
>>96855669How do you know its 145$? Got something leaked?
>>96852702>>96854431Ya both dumb. It was the 25th anniversary of Mordheim.
>>96856971Retailers get the price sheet for pre orders the monday after the pre orders are announced. It makes its way very easily online from there.
>>96850783Book won't be leaked until next week, the ultramarines stuff is just shipping now.I can post some pictures when it comes in if people care.
>>96857128Sunday*
Fumbbl poster wont ID the guy that apparently went over the rules
>haven't played Blood Bowl since CRP>look inside nuBB>it's all ill-thought-out "once per game" skills, unnecessary "within two squares" area effects, and other meme balancing shit like Orc "Big Uns" not having handsI want to play but it's just like... man. Why do people go along with these things. Why do they honk and squeal for the churn.It's not the addition of a passing stat or even the roster changes.
>>96857502His YouTube is Jon sao. He posted a video that he has the box and indeed does, but he didn't say what changes there were in the video but did say he would do a roster video this Saturday. I don't know if the guy is leaking information on a forum somewhere.
>>96857510Insert meme of Luke saying everything you just said is wrong
>>96857547Ah thanks man>>96857510if you can find somone to play CRP7 go nuts but most people have seen all it has to offer and want something different by this point
Anyone got a scan of Rise of Angmar they can toss me? It's the only thing I'm missing from my collection of previous edition MESBG stuff. The quality of the one I found online is poo poo.
Battlefleet Gothic hinted at boys.We are coming home
>>96857688>Battlefleet Gothic hinted at boys.Please no.
>>96857688I'm already home. I don't want it to change just so it might appeal to slopniggers.
>>96857688I fucking hope not they'll ruin it
>>96857688Source?
>>96857688oh fuckoh shitplease no
>>96857688We already have BFG.We have rules for the full spectrum of 40k factions.We have dozens of fleet lists to build from.We have mechanics for everything from boarding to teleport attacks to manifesting daemon ships to DE slave raids.We already have a full Horus Heresy spin-off including Legion traits and Gloriana ships.We have dozens of sculptors producing models for every ship class in the game.We already have a worldwide playerbase.We do not need a new BFG that breaks up what we already have, only to sell it back to us piece-by-piece and stupider.The game is already complete.
>>96857761What could just be a dumb joke at the end of today's rumor mill
>>96857510Go ahead and detail all of these once per game skills that teams have as well as AOE skills. Foul and disturbing presences aren't ubiquitous, and neither are beer boar's pick me upAdditionally, Senor Dramafag, Big Uns can pick up the ball and have hands. They just can't pass
More team change details for third season:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/64evk1wu/find-out-what-team-changes-the-warhammer-studio-are-looking-forward-to-in-blood-bowl/
>>96857940Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>96857688>it's HH locked
>>96858005> Pump Wagons no longer secret weaponsI'm beginning to think Snotlings are not a proper Stunty team.
>>96858107I'm starting to think you wallet cucks aren't even sapient.
>>96857931Do you have plastic miniatures?
>>96858247Yes, now fuck off.
>>96857931It's going to happen for the same reason Blood Bowl was brought back into their fold in 2016: if they don't do something with it they will lose IP rights for disuse.So GW doing BFG is actually an attack on BFG to prevent the community efforts from being used as the influx of incredibly vocal whales that buy whatever GW does with it will rabidly crusade across the internet in an all out war to convince people that it is the only option.On the one hand we don't want consumer noobs or their whale commanders in the game, but on the other hand it will serve to obfuscate and bury all existing groups who play the loving crafted community rules, internet searches for videos or local groups will invariably direct you to GW garbage from the day of it's release onward.
>>96858321Let's see them
Jesus Christ the dwarf changes are major!Linos now devious primary, not strength. Lost tackle, gained defensive.Runner 80k with sprint.Blitzer 100k with tackle and diving tackleRoller mv 5, dirty player no longer +2
>>96858355Oh yeah just let me scrape the paint off my fleets and cut a few of the minis in half to show you, eh?
>>96858358Where you seeing this? Thought the Spanish dude was only gonna leak the stuff this Saturday.
>>96858358That's weird, I don't see any changes being made to the rulebook on my shelf?
>>96857366I'm assuming the last column is leafbux, right?
Holy shit the hysterics in this thread.
>>96857366>spike journals separate from the rulesSo, on DAY 1, the two launch teams will not be in the rule book.
>>96858583I think they have to be, otherwise the core box set doesn't include rules for the models it's packed with.
>>96858583The team rule can be printed on a single page. The Spike Journal doesn't come with just 5 pages of rule. It came with sport news and comic like a sport magazine.
>>96858650>handy cheat sheets to help you get through your first few gamesThis is where you will find a premade team roster for exactly the 11 models that come in the box for each team, this designed to make you want to go out and purchase a separate box of minis for each team and the two separate journals for each team.
>>96858358>>96858375
>>96858583rules for every team is printed in the book, spike magazines instead contain special rules for different pitches, balls, and leagues players may play with on their own
>>96858363What a terrible cop out, nomodels detected
>>96858704Stop moving the goalposts. The new teams will clearly be in the new rulebook, you gigatard
>>96858834>>96858871You can go back and look at the 2016 rule book to see this is not a given.
>>96858704>>96858834>>96858871>>968589622nd season had Nobility and Black Ork team stats in the rulebook and also published a Spike Journal that both teams shared.
>>96859077Right and they have since realized that doing a double journal resulted in half the sales and that having the box team rules in the book also resulted in loss of sales.If they were going to streamline things again then the journal for these two would also be a double issue, which it is not, showing GW has examined the numbers and didn't like what they saw.
>>96858453Yeah. Monopoly money.
>>96859481As a leaf I have to inform you that Monopoly money is more solid in value than our currency as the value of each monopoly bill is the value of the paper it is printed on and FIAT currencies are worth less than the materials they are printed on.
Show me your silly gang ideas
>>96858962>>96859094This is an extremely weird hill to die on. Do you not know what full means when they say full rulebook?
>>96859806I felt like doing a silly all Wyld Runners with cats list
>>96860033>what full means when they say full rulebookYes, it means that over the next 4ish years you will see 3-6 hardcover supplements for $60-70 each that will contain core rules, like rosters for teams that have existed for 20+ years and which you already own models for and have played with for years.
>>96859077Before you see a full set of spike journals (1 for each faction) you will see more than one faction get a repeat spike journal.
>>96858358Koopa come back.We all miss you, even antg
>Always wanted to play Mordheim>Tell a buddy and he's interested>He finds three more people new to gaming who are super excited about the idea of a Mordheim group>Make a groupchat. Everyone is building warbands. A couple of us are making terrain and objective pieces>One guy suddenly says he is having cold feet about Mordheim because it isn't officially "supported" anymore and we should switch to Frostgrave>Other new people getting excited about new shiny thingHoly fuck I hate people
>>96860497Roll the d20, mordcuck.
>>96860033>>96860142GW bot confirmed.
>>96860497>tfw just bought some midhammer minis to make Mordheim warbandsEh, even if there are no people playing in my area I'll do them as a modeling project. Might use the terrain as extras for Malifaux or something too.
>>96860497>groupchatWhere?
Through the course of human history, one thing about /tg/ has always been true.>>96857693You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.>>96857709You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.>>96857716You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.>>96857835You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.>>96857931You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.>>96858344You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.>>96858363You don't have any models (proonts don't count) and you don't play.In conclusion, /tg/ is a land of contrasts.
How's the price for the new edition of BB? A friend is considering getting it, but doesn't know whether it's good value or not. Personally I think it's a bit on the expensive side, but I'm used to mesbg, which is a bit cheaper, considering there's a huge 2nd hand market
>>96858735I didn't expect them to change this many of the starting skills across all players
>>968609522020 was a mild shit test to see if they could make big changes and still sucker you into paying.This time they're going whole hog with it, 2020 was still backwards compatible with 2016/LRB if you just converted passing, 2026 BB won't be compatible at all.
>>96858735>lore mentions dwarfs are lying sacks of shit who lie about the rules to do what they want>give them devious skillsIt just werks.
>>96860289That aint me despite for once, the Jesus. I miss yous too.
>>96852702>Low model count>High customisation>Cheap as balls to play with a pdf and cardboard scenery>DIY friendly >Small space requirements It went up in popularity during lockdown, then youtubers got into it and began milking it, as every piece of terrain, conversion and paint job can be turned into a whole video.As for Warbands, I stick to 1a and 1b.>>96857020 while true, the popularity spike begun back in 2019, during the game's 20th anniversary.>>96857931But wouldn't all that be much better if split into a dozen books released quarterly, with new editions that break everything every third year and $150+ big box releases sold for fomo?>>96860497Build 2-3 Warbands yourself and some terrain, then convince a single person for a quick game.That's how you get them hooked and grow a group.
I still play the 2016 BB version. It's simplier and I like it that way.
>>96857688Let me guess it will be set during HH so it is basically only a single boxed set with 2 sets of the same ships but you are supposed to paint one set up as evil. And the rules will be nothing like the actual BFG we like.
>>96858735>Linos lose tackle and S primary Get fucked
>>96858735Good thing JTY got removed from the team, he'd never stand for this. FUCK DORFS
>>96852791Dude those are easy to paint. Just paint the metalics on, nuln oil wash a couple times and drybrush with metalics again. Paint the leather, paint the skin, do the base, done.
>>96857366Fuckers make you buy the cards separate from the models. Unbelievable.
>>96858735>dwarf nigger in my LGS group chat losing it because he can't infinitely stack guard and mighty blow as muchLmao...
>>96860860What if I don’t have models and have played (using someone else’s minis)? I only expect a snarky reply from you but seriously, I’ve played the game i’d rather GW not touch it ever
>>96860923It leaked I think at $145 USD
>>96861181Come home carbomber even the /v/ league misses you
>>96860923If he likes the looks of the teams and has no blood bowl stuff, it's a good value at $145The last season starter was a hell of a value but the teams were shit
