Poison Dart Frog Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96841696>TQNow that the format has evolved, explain why Vivi still needs to be banned (you can't)
Gonna try to play some leagues today
>Now that the format has evolved, explain why Vivi still needs to be bannedits ub
>>96853589>TQRakdos aggro is fineVivi is fineHopeless nightmare is clearly the problem
>>96853589Can this game still somehow be saved?
>Vivi losing to Red LeylineGod fuck it's like finding out you've been cured of cancer because an older cancer you didn't know you had rose up and fought off the new cancer that was going to kill you.
ATLA is going to be a great set, which, ironically, will kill the game.
where does a feller get himself some cards printed? got a couple cubes i wanna spin up but i'll be damned if i buy real cards anymore
>>96853686go check out those ads in Magic Historian's video that company literally will just print proxies for you
>>96853686apologies, i did not read the op. please kill me, i am a big idiot
>>96853616good luck oops brother
>>96853672RED DECK WINS!RED DECK WINS!RED DECK WINS!
>They didn't ban Leylinelmao
>>96853672But you will end dying anyway with the new cancer too lmao
>>96853725>But you will end dying anyway with the new cancer too lmao
>HEY GUYS WHAT IF WE GAVE THE ALREADY-DOMINANT AGGRO STRATEGY A PREGAME ACTION?
>>96853725Literally only uses two in the sideboard, its too slow for Vivi matches
How many bans would take to fix Standard?Is a “fixable” format right? They wouldn’t kill Pioneer and push this hard the entrance door format to new people without a way to not make it suck ass, right?
>>96853780>How many bans would take to fix Standard?More than seven, that's for sure.
>>96853780I can fix Standard.Ban anything released before Bloomburrow.You're welcome.
>>96853725>two in the sideboard onlyDefinitive proof that you are the only one who has ever been booty blasted by nemesis purely existing.
>>96853780Banning the entire format led to where we're at today, so you'd probably just make it even worse
>>96853851It's shit, anon. Stop attempting to run cover for the retards at WotC. It's embarrassing.
>>96853780Standard is unfixable.Let’s make an assumption, a BIG one, and consider they are willing to ban let’s say seven cards like the last time:You ban ViviYou ban CauldronYou ban Leyline of ResonanceYou ban Screaming NemesisYou ban OmniscienceYou ban Kaito You ban one more non red card for a good balance between Red/Non-Red the same they did the last time.Red still has Manifold, Hellkite, Emberheart, Needlehead and Lynx.And outside Red? You still have cards like Enduring Curiosity, Kona, Superior Spider-Man, Drunneth in Simic, Marang in control, Riddler real fucking bullshit cards and more than 10 for sure.Standard is done because of power creep and power creep has become the rule.
>>96853890>Red is 80% of the format yet combo and control get 42% of the bansHEHE HE DID IT AGAIN. HE MADE SURE RED STAYS GOOD!
>>96853890>Standard is unfixable.>Let’s make an assumption, a BIG one, and consider they are willing to ban let’s say seven cards like the last time:>You ban Vivi>You ban Cauldron>You ban Leyline of Resonance>You ban Screaming Nemesis>You ban Omniscience>You ban Kaito>You ban one more non red card for a good balance between Red/Non-Red the same they did the last time.>Red still has Manifold, Hellkite, Emberheart, Needlehead and Lynx.>And outside Red? You still have cards like Enduring Curiosity, Kona, Superior Spider-Man, Drunneth in Simic, Marang in control, Riddler real fucking bullshit cards and more than 10 for sure.>Standard is done because of power creep and power creep has become the rule.All these words, and you didn't even mention Slickshot Show-Off. Pathetic.
>>96853780Standard isn't fixable by bans, it was fixable by having the two year rotation and only having three set releases a year. They sure as shit are never going back to that model, though so its fucked forever.
We didn't know how good we had it
>Commander game ends on turn 4Everyone says good game and sets up for another>Standard game ends on turn 4Everyone loses their fucking mind and calls for emergency bans on everything
>>96853945>>Commander game ends on turn 4>Everyone says good game and sets up for anotherPeople get upset if a commander game ends before turn 11, anon.
>>96853945>Commander game ends on turn 4What are you snorting if this happens they lose their fucking mind.
>>96853945>Everyone says good game and sets up for anotherno they dont they spend 30 minutes arguing about pubstomps and brackets
>>96853940If only we could have known that Cori-Steel Cutter was actually the one card holding the meta together
>>96853945>Commander game ends on turn 4>Everyone says good game and sets up for anotherlol
>>96853945
>>96853966>enter event for $5 dollars>play rogakh, cast 1 haste creature then 1 removal spell, then play nothing else>gain 20 points, lose 40, leave with $8 of store creditWhat
>>96853945You can literally get ostracized from playgroups for ending a commander game in 4 turns. People will look at you like you just ruined everyone's night.This does not apply to cEDH, of course, but that "format" is a whole nother can of worms.
>>96854009a whole otheranother is a contraction of the words an and otherthere is no such thing as a nother
Yeah but fixed Vivi.
>>96854046I do not care for the proper form of some barbaric language, I shape it to my will.
>>96853780At least a dozen. Realistically, they could probably ban four cards from each set at the nearest ban window and standard would still be in a similar state to the state it's in right now.
>>96853945>t.never played CummanderGet the hell out of here.
>>96853780Vivi, Leyline, Cauldron, Slickshot, Omniscience. I'm satisfied with that.
>>96853966Hahahahaha imagine having to play your COMPETITIVE card game with this many safe brackets. What an absolute trash of game format and community
>>96854118>Kona and Superior Spooderman overtake first places in the format>Format still shit because Monored aggro keeps being best deck
>>96854131Kona without Omni is much fairer.
>>96853966The fuck is this...
>>96854108When the waiter asks you to leave for not being a pig
>>96853966Who the fuck is actually going to keep track of all this shit? Are people really counting how many times someone casts a spell per round? Or counting the number of times a player counters a spell? Is this what people think of when they hear "a system that encourages fun, casual play"?
>>96853966This looks and sounds like a headache waiting to happen.
>>96854170Yeah, just look at that many clauses lmao you protect everyone feelings and everyone plays “Magic” safely KEK
>>96853624Kingly post
>>96854118It's hilarious that you think this would fix anything.
>>96853966ah, brawl club
>>96853966I honestly wonder what the meta would even look like at such a store
>>96854256generic value/goodstuff piles most likely
>>96854269you mean generic badstuff piles, can't get too much value compared to your opponents!
>>96853966this reminds me of when i first started magic and went to a store that had a really long custom banlist that had a ton of stuff on it including all of the circle of protections so for a long time i thought those cards were like super overpowered bullshit or something
>>96854256It's generic tribal decks, precons with generic upgrades or some a deck that displays some esoteric fuckass interactions between obscure cards that take way too long to set up, this last group of people are usually the ones who get really pissed when their little Rube Goldberg machine gets interacted with or the game ends before they can show off their cool cards.
>>96853890I happen to notice not a single one of those cards is mono white.The problem is JOTC killed mono white and left the color pie to rot.This will always be the problem until it’s fixed.
>>96853698>>96853616I went 3-2First game against loam pox: 2-0Second game against loam pox: 2-0Third game against breakfast: 1-2Fourth game against blue post: 0-2Fifth game against merfolk: 2-0
>>96854291They are. CoP are extremely feast or famine but if printed into standard today would absolutely warp the metagame around them and every deck that wasn't aggro would be playing white because of them.
>>96854476>We had to remove everything good that white had because reasons
>>96854291They are, yeah. Circles of Protection are devastatingly powerful and heavily warped the game when they were legal; you would not believe the dogshit artifact creatures people were forced to play to get around them because if they didn't the game was basically over.
>>96854495>>We had to remove everything good that white hadWhite sees tons of play, what are you talking about? Even in your other post you have to specify "mono white."
>>96854430There are two colors worse than White right now.
>>96854509The pitiful handful of White cards that actually see play are classic examples of Fake White.
>>96854455>I went 3-2keep it up, as long as you're winning more than you're losing, you're doing goodalso remember to have fun
>>96854509Name five good white cards in Standard. I'll wait..... and no, Beza is not a good card.
>>96854597Get Lost, Voice of Victory, Enduring Innocence, Authority of the Consuls, Cosmogrand Zenith.Why is Beza not a good card?
>>96854430The top deck in Vintage right now is arguably mono white initiative, so in a sense the strongest possible deck you can make in MTG is mono white.
>>96854597>>96854553>name good white cards!>b-b-but not those ones!Whiteschizo isn't sending xer best.
>>96854629He is right.Beza is not good.
>>96854559I had fun and I think the losses are mostly due to mulligan choices and some sequencing blunders (I accidentally set a stop on my draw step and cast cabal ritual on my draw step instead of main phase in game 3 against breakfast)I'm enjoying legacy and I might build this deck in paper for the legacy 1k at my lgs
>>96854633You still haven't explained why. But I appreciate you conceding Get Lost, Voice of Victory, Enduring Innocence, Authority of the Consuls, and Cosmogrand Zenith.
>>96854642>4 mana>Doesn't do 15 damage to your opponent on ETBNot playable in nuMagic.
>>96854597Wrath of God, Get Lost, Delney, Overlord of the Mistmoors, Sheltered By Ghosts.Also if Beza wasn't good it wouldn't be ran in a Pro Tour winning deck. Which is was.
>>96854647Yeah instead it just sets up a whole board, gives you a treasure, stablizes you and draws you a card just to be sure
a new institution apart from JOTC has to create a new format by picking and choosing the bullshit from the actually healthy cards.it has been clear that the state of the actual game is irrelevant for JOTC so a different entity must step in and do what they will not .
>>96854664>sets up a whole board, gives you a treasure, stablizes you and draws you a card just to be sureWow that's so cool.Anyways, I burst lightning my Screaming Nemesis, then play Lynx.G2?
>>96854677With what mana nigga?
>>96854674that's called every community format ever
post literally you: the card
>>96854682The Mountain drops I never missed because of all my impulse draw.So yeah, G2?
>"name good white cards">everyone names Fake White cards or trash that's not even close to being on the ban radarYeah, I'm thinking White is still shit.
>>96854677I Get Lost your Nemesis with your lightning on the stack. You have no mana for Lynx because it's turn 4.
>>96854691UR Wizards in Modern with this little shit was fun, shame it was completely replaced by Tamiyo
>>96854694Is Fake White the cool new cope phrase?
>>96854693Oh so if we're playing on magical Christmas land where you simultaneously played all damage to get me in the threshold where a Lynx and a Nemesis can kill me and I did not draw a single piece of removal all match, I play Manifest Dread, flip it with Splash Portal, and behold, Omniscience.G2?
>>96854734>where you simultaneously played all damage to get me in the threshold where a Lynx and a Nemesis can kill meanon......why do you say this as if it is even remotely difficult?
>>96854647>Beza is not playableThis place should have some sort of way of verifying if someone actually plays this game before they're allowed to post.
Powerful white cards.
>>96854748Because nigga, either you did this or you're reaching turn 5. These two do not match.
>>96854759if that happened the general would die immediately
What do the frogs on the akki heads have to do with anything?
>>96854781They told the artist to make art for Ambitious Assault, but the artist was dyslexic.
>>96853966You know I'm pretty sure with these rules you could craft a Rog/Tymna token spam deck that consistently collects 25 bonus points then suicides to get the last 5, likely netting you more points than the player that "won".Honestly you could probably do it with just standard Rog/Si if you were lazy it's not like anything is stopping you.
>>96854834FF art is the best and mogs the original
>>96854797kek
time for predictions /tg/ how well will ATLA do?
>>96854047Haha, yeah, there's absolutely NO WAY to untap Vivi.
is Cabbage Merchant jumpstart packs only?
>>96854759This but make it a test of game knowledge before you buy UB. That will kill all UBs instantly.
>>96854908the one showed so far yes, but it's possible they put another one in the actual set.
>>96854888Better than Spider-Man but not as good as Final Fantasy.
>>96854888better than spiderman, worse than FF and LOTR. will probably pull Tarkir numbers
>>96854923Likelier they just have him in the background of some art instead, maybe a sorcery or something referencing his cabbage cart being destroyed.
>>96854759Posting a decklist seems reasonable.
>>96854759I am fucking sick and tired of you nosewater cocksuckers acting like Beza is some kind of gotcha. It's not a good card. It's never been a good card. It's never won an event. It's never been remotely on the radar for a ban. It's a shitty Fake White crutch card that a couple losing record control decks throw in as a one-of because there aren't enough real, actually playable White cards to put into the deck. It's astonishing how you people can so confidently act like you know how the game is played when you can look at a piece of shit like Beza and say "Hmmm, yes, this is a playable White card". It's fucking embarrassing. You're fucking embarrassing. Just fucking shut up if you're not going to have anything intelligent to say and go back to slurping nosewater cum.
>>96854962>It's never won an event.
>tqThe format really hasn't evolved. It's still mostly Kaito, Vivi, and RDW. The only thing that has really changed is that some people are playing some Simic deck a little more. Everything that needs to be banned still needs to be banned.
>>96854987Did you actually look at the rankings?
>>96854987>Rank 3>Rank 16>Rank 5>Rank 12>Rank 11>Rank 12>Rank 3>Rank 9>Rank 3>Rank 9>Rank 9Ah yes, 1st place.
>>96854990>kikes thought banning Awakening would remove Omni decksApologize shekel suckers
>>96855021>2%
>>96855011>>96855019But not because Beza is a weak card. But because every other color is pushed.
>>96855021>white paying for the sins of others at least it's pretty spot on flavor wise
>>96855028Cope.
>>96855028>not because its a weak card>its just not as strong enough to competeAnon, do you know what words mean?
>>96854987>The closest White ever got was 2nd.Oof. So close, yet so very far away.
>>96855028It doesn't matter either way since it's Fake White anyway
>>96855029As usual, the white schizo told the truth and JotC crucified him.
Name a single true white card. You can't.
>>96855021Arguably omni is worse now with Kona+station. You could at least shock or cut down omni if your opponent got it into play but didn't have a second on in hand.
>>96855099
>>96855106We need this in standard
>>96855099>Name a single true white card.
>>96855106>>96855116>land destruction >White
>>96855106>can make opponents discardnot white>>96855116>land destructionnot white
>>96855099>Pitiful Lifegain and Cheerio Reanimation.Is this true White?
>>96855136Finally, a TRVE VVHITE card
>>96855136>shitty indestructiblenot white>>96855140>reanimationnot white>>96855153>rewards fliers, made of waterliterally a blue card>>96855186>flyingnot white>>96855213>wizardnot white>>96855220>womannot white
New player here. I vow to not be like you angry farts. I'm gnna play in a severe and heavily casual manner. My cards will be bought 2nd hand. The only meta I'll be chasing is the fun that will be had wether I win or lose. I will be different! Mark my words!
>>96855240I think I found a white card. I'm not sure about this though.
name a whiter card i dare you
The mana curve is completely fucked even in Standard. So many 4 mana revives that there is no real mana value above 4.
Does Modern have the softest leagues?kind of want to install MTGO to crush face with Amulet Titan but it seems like a shit deck to click through the interface with.
>>96854962>It's never won an eventIt was in a fucking pro tour winning deck
>>96855246>a knight that doesn't have horsemanship, indicating he is unskilled with his mountnot white>>96855254>foremost figure wearing mostly red, those wearing white are relegated to the backgroundnot white
>>96855213>strongest white card vs weakest red card:
>>96855258closest one yet but this is actually green, due to it being unplayable
>>96855265not even reading allati assume it just says "you win the game if you untap with this"
>>96855262winning the pro tour doesn't count as winning, beza is still not a white card.
>>96855266>black creatures>black art>black borderneed I go on?
>>96855278It has two white pips and shows up when i search c:w in scryfall so it's white senpai.
>>96855288>black bordered>elementalnot white.hasn't won anything.
>>96855276>needing to untap>in redFunny joke
>>96855288>white pips>it's actually black symbolsIt's fucking over, whitebros... they even took our mana...
>>96855260>Does Modern have the softest leagues?I think pioneer is softer, the modern league population is so big that you could face a bunch of grinders in a row and get completely rekt>kind of want to install MTGO to crush face with Amulet Titan but it seems like a shit deck to click through the interface with.in my experience watching modern players, most people who play against amulet will concede to save time if you can properly demonstrate they're virtually dead, not a lot of people will force you to go through the whole thing
>>96855292I trust scryfall more then I trust you.
Bros, I found the white card!
>>96855301>not a humannot white>>96855310>when game is overnot white>>96855313>-1/-1not white
>Exile>Tokens>Double-StrikeThis has to be it!
>>96855338>MHNot white
>>96855346Damn it all.
>>96855338>mentions Godsire (red/green)>fells (death/black)>repeated value (blue)It is anything but white
Glad people are waking up. White is so weak nowadays that they don't even print white cards anymore, and people just keep going on like nothing's happened.
>>96855338>heretical propaganda about an atheist slaying a godlike figurefurthest thing possible from white
>>96855378Okay, what about this? It has Horsemanship!
>>96855378they've been le epic owning the religious for a while now
>>96855385>Chinese: Red>Horsemanship is just flying: Blue>"Tiger Generals" - Beast - Green>Bat soup involved somewhere - BlackIt is every color but white
>>96855385sovl
>>96855391Okay, so what does a White card look like?
>>96855385>asiannot white>>96855387>mountainsnot white>>96855395there isn't onethey never printed any white cardssince day 1 there hasn't been a white slice of the color pie either mechanically or flavorwise
i cast stone rain targeting israel
>>96855437
WHAT THE FUCKHOW DO I SPEND THAT MUCH MANA ON A CREATURE AND YOU JUST KILL IT???YOU JUST SPEND TWO BLACK MANA TO KILL IT???YOU JUST SPEND TWO RED INSTANTS TO KKILL IT????BAN BLACK PLAYERSBAN RED PLAYERSDRAW AND QUARTER THEM
>white male>enforces order against niggardly tactics>embodies fairness with its cost and statline >hates other races and raises a wall against the beastly invadersBehold a white card
>>96855470Okay but straight up tell me how this isn't insanely unfair. Tell me how this is fair but I can't attack with a creature and just target it. This game is bullshit
>>96855437I give it protection from red.
>>96855494>anti-redBasedWould run this in all my decks if it would be green
>>96855470>wizard who performs pagan magic instead of honest holy miraclesgo back
>Ok, i play a threat. Do you have removal?>Yes I do. I remove it and play a threat of my own. >Ok i remove your threat and play another threat.>I remove your threat and play a threat. Do you have removal?>No, I have run out of removal and now I lose the game gg
>>96855513This is fucking bullshit. Creatures should be able to target other creatures. Fight it out like a man!
>>96855385>2/2 for 3Overstatted for a White card. Also Horsemanship is just fake Flying which is Blue which means not White.
>>96855511>play a game from Wizards (Pagans) of the Coast>expect white cards
>>96855511Wrong. Drannith follows holy traditions in rejection of the pagan Bonders.Admit it, he found THE white card.
>>96855513This game is fucking bullshit. Removal spells should cost at least the same as what they remove MINIMUM
>>96855524finally, someone else understandsthey claim white isn't weak, and they're technically not lying because the truth is that white has no cards>>96855530pagans also fight each other, just because someone rejects one brand of paganism doesn't mean they reject all of them
>>96855258>whitest card is actually BlueSays a lot about the color pie, doesn't it?
>>96855542>pagans also fight each other, just because someone rejects one brand of paganism doesn't mean they reject all of themDrannith was explicitly anti-pagan anon. It was the beacon of order and faith on the plane.
FUCKING BULLSHITCHEAPCHEATERSASSHOLESI SPENT MANA ON THIS SHITBLOCK ME LIKE A REAL MANASSHOLESI WOULD RIP YOU APART LIMB FROM LIMBPIECES OF SHIT SCUMBAG CHEATERSTWO FUCKING MANA JUST TO COUNTER???? BULLSHIT GO FUCKING DIE IN HELL WHERE DEVILS WILL SODOMIZE YOU FOR ALL ETERNITY AND ETERNITY MORE BECAUSE YOU PLAY LIKE A FUCKING STUPID GAY SISSY COWARDLY CHEATERI WOULD RUN A KNIFE ALL THE WAY FROM YOUR CROTCH TO YOUR EYEBALLS
Draw and quarter red, black, and blue players for overt cheatingWhite players on probation (lifegain is literally cheating but not the only white strategy)
>>96855547*dazes this post*
>>96855545So is Sigarda on Innistrad, and she's explicitly pagan.
>>96855513i came back after a few years (last time was Innistrad Midnight + Crimson iirc) and i sincerely don't remember this game being like this even then, not so long ago. i remember both players could stick creatures and do fun things and not just a removal race
I have a new idea for white removal (JotC if you copy this I will bomb Israel)ConscriptionWInstantTarget a creature you don't control and a land you control. Exile that creature until the land becomes tapped.
>>96855578It'd probably be an enchantment like chained to the rocks, except it's "enchant untapped land you control"
>>96855573>So is Sigarda on Innistrad, and she's explicitly pagan.Yes but Drannith his not pagan and stands in explicit opposition to paganism so I don't know why you would bring that up.
>>96855591That's significantly worse because you need to hold up 2 lands to respond to the enemy. The point of this removal is that it is efficient when first cast, but taxes you on subsequent turns.
>>96855099Savannah lions
I have an idea to make the game fairRevengeGInstantly kill a player in real life if they play unfair colors (blue, black, red)Instantly kill and send to hell a player in real life if they play literal cheating strategies (lifegain)
>>96855604>Power greater than toughness Nice Red card you got there
>>96855617you can't just leak upcoming designs like that
>>96855578>JotC if you copy this I will bomb Israelthat would be antisemitic though
Two questions1. how much longer until this game truly crashes and burns? As in it genuinely dies and we see Hasbro implode since mtg is its sole moneymaker atm.2. if/when it crashes and burns what will happen with card prices? You figure people will still hold onto their cardboard rectangles and pray that they hold value? Asking because I really want this foil benthic behemoth but its apparently 90$
>>96855697>2. if/when it crashes and burns what will happen with card prices?Same thing that happened to comic prices in the 90s. Some actually rare cards (OG Lotus et al) will hold prices, while the entire rest of the stock (Every single serialized / 1-of-1 card for example / reflected secret lair etc.) go to near zero.
>>96855697Oh, also, 7ed foils will not go down. Fewer of any given 7ed foil rare were printed than any given ABU rare.
>>96855697i imagine black lotus will hold to some extent because it's already a collector item with people outside the gamei don't know if literally any other card will hold valuealso just proxy your foils
>THE creature color>its creatures are never allowed to do anything of substance they are only allowed to be beatsticks
>>96855736Sorry, loser. Creatures are red's domain now.
>>96855736green has plenty of creature effects!for instance, you can make more vanilla creatures
>>96855736when was the last time Green was relevant anyways? IIRC it was really good during WAR/Eldraine and then it ceased to exist shortly after
>>96855697>1. how much longer until this game truly crashes and burns? As in it genuinely dies and we see Hasbro implode since mtg is its sole moneymaker atm.More likely it'll gradually fade away into irrelevance as it keeps trying to chase the high that LTR and FF gave them while progressively destroying all organic interest in the game in the process. That is unless they reach some breaking point and do something truly desperate and insane that can somehow simultaneously kill the three pillars of commander paypigs, scalpers/investorfags, and UB tourists that are currently holding up the game.
May I recommend green devotion in Pioneer.
>>96855787Devotion decks are peak Fake Mono-Color. It's more like mana pip tribal and no matter the color it hinges entirely on one broken land.
>>96853725it just feels like it should be an enchantment creature
>>96853966> basedpaper
>>96855736>play a 6+ mana green creature>uncounterable, hexproof>dies to a pletora of 1 mana 1/1 deathtouch
>>96855736Fauna shaman seems pretty good
>>96855639Sorry it was white firstPikers are white
>>96853670The answer is "cubes"
>>96855866Heads up, just because something was printed in White first doesn't make it White
>>96855736>Beatsticks.Hey, Green makes land tokens, too!
>>96855880
>>96855327>>not a humanPrior to D&D 3e, only humans were allowed to be Paladins. Hence a Paladin is by default a human.
>all mtg cards use non-white ink>all mtg boards are some color that is not identical to white>the artwork contains more colors than whiteNo such thing as a white MTG card.
>>96855961BEHOLD
>>96855973>Black borderngmi
It's time to go, Anonymous.The ferryman is waiting.Magic The Gathering is no more.You can't put it off...You can't stay here forever.
>>96855982I'm designing an entirely new card game for my friends and we're going to play it for free.
>>96855988t's time to go, Anonymous.
>>96854834mmm maybe need a playset of piece-of-ass dispute for the old coombinder
>>96855973Not even white
>>96856026That's fucking light you stupid.
>>96856033>"white" light>is actually every color of the rainbow
imagine
>>96856056>>96856062By the nature of the universe there can never be nor never be a white card. Likewise there can be such thing as a black card. MTG can only be Red, Green, or Blue (RGB; the base colors). Unfortunately, JotC is being racist against green and only printing for red babies and blue jews.
>>96855365usa is a muslim sex ring
>>96856065Black cards are just colorless cards (Eldrazi and Golems)
>>96856065Stompy in the top eightStompy in the top eightStompy in the top eight
>>96855124>>96855127Fuck off MaRo, these cards existed before you even worked at WotC
>>96855470It doesn't stop niggardly tactics it actually stops the opposite.
>>96855240>Younot white, definitely brown
>>96855124>>land destruction >>Whitethere's some hidden land destruction with 0-cost spells as well
AREN'T YOU GUYS REALLY EXCITED FOR THE AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER REVEAL?
Release my nigger Entomb from premodern gay baby jail. Reanimator is dogshit and won't take over while stiflenought, sligh, landstill and terrageddon do whatever the fuck they want.
>>96856430no, the only UB I've ever had even the slightest interest in was FF, and even then if I could give up having my pet favorites and waifu cards to delete Spider-Man, TMNT, Dr. Who, 40k, Fallout, etc etc etc from the game entirely I'd do it in a heartbeat.
>>96853670$30 Value Vintage is pretty fun. Price restrictions restrict you from being forced to engage with the new slop.
>>96856445>premodernmaybe play a format that's actually fun
Unlike the facetious psyop kike larping as me, I actually do care about the state of White in Magic.Beza is a white card, but it is too weak for Standard or any other format.Hybrid and multicolor cards are not “white” cards: they are multi or hybrid, such as T3feri and Omnath or Lurrus.Omni is still a threat because Omni is the problem, not a white sorcery that is absolutely fucking useless on its own.Gavin Verhey is still a lying sack of shit kike who hates white and never cared about saving it when he personally designed the early stages of FIRE design to cripple white.
>>96856601>Beza is a white cardThis is a fake whiteschizo post, he would never say this.
why the fuck weren't the overlord cycle legendary
>>96856627Because it would a) messup commander and b) the titans were not legendary
>>96853780Return to 4 sets per yearReturn to 2 year rotationWait 2 years for everything to rotate outThis is the only way to fix standard.
>>968539454 turns of Cuckmander is 16 converted player turns. 4 turns of duels is only 8 converted player turns. Less game happens in duels.
>>96856601white auras are the only monowhite deck I enjoy at the momentlightpaws is single handedly carrying the color for me
>>96856627Lorewise, they aren't unique beings. Valgavoth is entirely capable of making more (or less) as it pleases him.
>>96855697>1. how much longer until this game truly crashes and burns? As in it genuinely dies and we see Hasbro implode since mtg is its sole moneymaker atm.Commander, normie collectors and scalpers buying up UBs will keep it afloat, but 60 card formats are toast. I think how well the Marvel set sells will be the canary in the coalmine for this game's future.
slippery slope is not a fallacy anymore. to claim so is either you are too young to have seen things escalate or you are trying to escalate something. there are so many examples in our very game and it only opens things to discuss. there is no reason to suppress discussion, unless..
>>96856749The actual slippery slope was counting mana pips in rules text instead of CMC, and WOTC starting to print Commander-specific cards directly for the format instead of it being a creative use of Constructed cards.
>>96854760such low quality of image. They shoud have redrawn those scenes.
What is Subtlety supposed to be? A bird?I can't tell what it is in any of its arts
>>96856601Stop larping as me to try to make me look bad, you nosewater cock sucker kike.
How are you feeling?
>>96856922>I can't tell what it is in any of its artsit's too subtle for you
>>96856922Whale breaching
>>96856749The slippery slope can be either valid or a fallacy depending on the circumstances.Technically the concept is meant to refer to events where there's no evidence that X leads to Y, just blind supposition. However, there are circumstances where some activity X is evidenced to routinely lead to Y, in which case it isn't a fallacy, it's a supported argument.
Can we all have a nice moment of bonding and laugh at cuckmander players having a meltdown over hybrid mana?
>>96857083it's crazyi think it really shows how disconnected the rules, philosophy, and stylings of commander have become from the things that made magic great
>>96857083>Didn't really have a strong opinion on the hybrid mana change>Watch a bunch of videos making arguments for and against it>The arguments against it bring up all the issues that can come down the line because of it, alongside the spirit of commander (i.e., color identity) being threatened even more than it already was>The arguments in favor of it are the most basic, liberal arguments for anything ever (more choices = good; period, tradition = bad because I don't like the tradition, you can't say "this is the way it has been so it should stay that way if people already like it" because my friends and I don't like it, if you don't want it you can just rule 0 it out and my group shouldn't need to rule 0 it in, WotC will just print broken cards anyway, there's no negative to allowing broken cards to be playable in more decks, WotC would never explicitly break the color pie just for a quite cash grab that's a slippery slope fallacy, the list goes on)The real pigs are finally starting to show their snouts, and watching them turn in real time is scaring me more than amusing me.
>>96857025yeah and because it's a proven fact wotc cannot be trusted it's not a fallacy
>>96857086> the spirit of commander (i.e., color identity) being threatened even more than it already wasWotc has been bleeding the color pie into shit like giving tons of card draw to rakdos and enchantment destruction to black exactly because of this "spirit of commander" (and ironically against it as well)
>>96857115Yes, and I believe giving them more ways to bleed the color pie is a bad idea. If they want to just make a bunch of monocolored spells that break the color pie, then so be it, but at least they won't be the exact same card in multiple colors of monocolored deck. I personally think the color identity of commander is the only cool aspect it still has left and I'd hate for them to kill it just because it's inconvenient to them and degenerates that want to be able to play every card they want in their commander decks. If you think that's a dumb hill to die on, then agree to disagree.
>>96857083>Commander fags constantly ask for colour pie breaks like black enchantment removal, red card draw and dorks etc >Apparently hybrid allowing colours to go "outside" their pie is suddenly an "issue" despite constantly asking for off pie effects otherwise You could make a mono black artifact removal card and they'd lap it up but allow mono B to run a BR hybrid for a similar effect and they start shitting their pants. Make it make sense
>>96856922Easy: It's Shiva.Next question.
>>96857173Shiva?of the East?more like: SHIVA THE DECEASED
>>96857180Back to Venezuela with you lmao
>>96857216jajajajajaja
>>96855547*boomerangs your single land in play*Nothin personel
>>96855736You used to be unable to find non-green pushed creatures outside of low cmc white wieners. I don't know when it really crested the peak but in a world where vein ripper exists, green has no business being a color.
WE WUZ KRANGZ N SHIEET
clues are back (maybe only for one card)
ty lee is blue for some reason
>>96857457It makes sense mechanically. She could be izzet, but blue is fine.
>>96857457Ahhh she looks so annoying to play against
>>96857457Woah, a cute girl in the artwork? Are we sure this is a Magic card and not a Yugioh card? They should make her black, fat, lame and gay so I can relate to this card a bit better.
>>96857457Eh, seems like it would be more flavorful to have her tap something down whenever she attacks, rather than freezing something when she enters. Or, hell, you could've even made her some kind of baby Frost Titan.
Happy Halloween!
>>96857497Yeah, they should've at least modeled her after the Netflix live action version. Hopefully they'll give us the correct version of Mai.
>>96857457...the art for the whole set is going to be artist's interpretations of still frames from the show, isn't it? Boring.
>>96857457I haven't watched TLA but I've been told this is when she turns to the good guys' side so I presume there will be a red card for her evil version.
>>96857530>The truth is that people who view themselves as virtuous and righteous can be as deadly as any blood sacrificing dark cult when they forget the message of love that is supposed to be the foundation of their belief systemThe irony of these words is no doubt lost on the speaker
>>96857530"I wanted to paint spooky stuff."That's about the only real takeaway from this, the rest is just overthought retroactive forced meaning.
>>96857530>The truth is that people who view themselves as virtuous and righteous can be as deadly and dangerous as any blood sacrificing dark cult when they forget the message of love that is supposed to be the foundation of their belief system.the irony of a leftist typing this down holy shit
>>96857449There's gotta be some infinite combo things with this guy
>>96853589YGO looks to be genuinely in a better spot right now, which is incredible to say and even be remotely close to the truth. >new sanctioned format that cares about balanced and fun gameplay while keeping the high powered flavor of YGO>still maintains soulful old card borders that don't look like someones instagram feed>decks stay on theme, have cool flavorful art, and are fun to play even when you loseMagic has genuinely become so fucking stale to me and it's so sad. When I started playing seriously, around the time of RTR, it had such cool flavor and the gameplay was genuinely fucking awesome. It's become so sucky and the worst part is the meta decks aren't even fun to play anymore. Shitty ass piles of broken cards that all lean heavy into aggro, not a single archetype besides maybe combo that even exists anymore.I'm fucking mad. I want 2 year UW-only standard. I want this format to exist, yet even then I know the busted cards in UW sets will eventually make nothing safe. We will literally never have a good medium power 1v1 magic format again and it will kill the game, whether commander players realize it or not.
>>96857565If you have a loop that casts infinite noncreature spells this guy will create infinite clue tokens.
I want to play blue tron in pauper but I don't want to play ephemerate because it sounds too much like effeminate. What are my options
>>96857587something like this maybe?https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=75175&d=770491
>>96857583That doesn't count, anything can do infinite "whenevers" if you already have an infinite loop that triggers it. That's like saying susurian voidborn goes infinite because he triggers off of 2x beckoner + zealot
>>96857575I agree, I would rather play Maliss slop than Spiderman slop (unironically).One question though. Do you have any rebuttal to Yugioh-youtubers who constantly doom-and-gloom about the current state of Yugioh (allegedly in decline)?
>>96857575>decks stay on themeThey kinda have to, seeing how every YGO deck is a precon.
>>96857587Play red tron instead?
>>96857600It was a joke.
>>96857565Could find a home with this nigga
>>96857597looks like ephemerate tron without ephemerate. maybe im retarded but i dont get why they only run one murmuring mystic if thats the main win con >>96857607but i like controli guess im just chasing the high from playing mono blue tron in modern in the good old days, but pauper might just not have what im looking for to make it work. i like using blue control to buy time to assemble tron and then play some big fuck off payoffs once its online, not just durdle around bouncing shit to make birds. green tron in pauper has the big payoffs aspect but not the control and i kinda want to combine the two
>>96854629Low IQ posting.VVhite schizo wonnered.Post a deck, and I'll tell you why it isn't white.
>>96857587Ephemerate is cheeks in Tron.Play ghostly flicker.
>>96857557It's a valid point though. Any form of radicalism tends to demonize those who don't share their narrow, dogmatic views. The left and right both do this freely; the main factor that drives it into a destructive form is zeal rather than the specific beliefs that are espoused.
>>96857682>looks like ephemerate tron without ephemerateyou just said you had a problem with ephemerate so I looked up a tron list with blue cards and no ephemerate>maybe im retarded but i dont get why they only run one murmuring mystic if thats the main win conit isn't, mysidian elder is also a wincon
>>96857700>It's a valid point though.of course it's valid but that's obviously not the point, it's like a serial murderer saying killing innocent people is bad, my conclusion isn't going to be>that serial killer sure does have a point, I never thought about it before!
Spoilers when?
>>96857708thanks anon i probably shouldve explained myself instead of just making a dumb joke, but i guess what im actually trying to make is a variant of green tron like thishttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/tron-c244ab01-c9e3-400d-8db1-6d717616b7e2#paperbut with blue control to buy time instead of just playing solitaire
>>96857682>looks like ephemerate tron without ephemerate. maybe im retarded but i dont get why they only run one murmuring mystic if thats the main win conMystian Elder is also nuts with flicker loops, and Pulse of Murasa gives you the ability to recur your win cons if you don't get fucked by GY hate
>>96857748Well, you shouldn't and can't. The one good blue fatty you could cast has double blue pips and green just has really good cards to dig for tron.
>>96857771you're probably right but there's good mana fixing with energy refractor / prophetic prism, and big colorless stuff like maelstrom collossus and ulamogs crusher
sorry to interrupt, but I'm new to Magic and I have a questionif a card says, for example, "Creatures you control gain haste until end of turn." that affects only creatures in play, or if I play a creature after that spell resolves, would that creature also have haste?many thanks
>>96857757true but both are only 1-ofs in the main deck and while you do have a shitload of card draw you cant just straight up tutor them, when i was testing flicker tron there were a few cases where i just didnt have access to either of them until like turn 6-7 or later
>>96857807>"Creatures you control gain haste until end of turn." that affects only creatures in playthis one, the keyword to pay attention here is "gain" because you're giving it to creatures that are already in playif you want all of your creatures to get haste, regardless of timing, you need a static effect like>Creatures you control have haste
>>96857086Color identity is not being threatened. In fact this change aligns closer with the spirit of color identity then not doing it.The actual purpose colour identity serves is to tie in the format's focus on your commander to one of magic's fundamental building blocks, the colour pie. 60-card formats are about you, the planeswalker, but EDH is about your commander. If your commander is green, you get to do 'green things', because those are the things in their wheelhouse.Creatures like Ghalta or Arasta or Azusa are creatures of green mana, and so their decks can channel spells of green mana, do the things that green mana does. anAnd (with the exception of a few colour pie breaks--which, in the format that already lets these decks play sylvan library and beast within, cannot possibly be a deal breaker), hybrid green cards 'do green things', they are 'cards that do the things green mana does', and so if colour identity is to tie the color pie to the commander, which I think it should, it should clearly allow for hybrid cards to be played as either of their colours. This is the entire idea of hybrid cards, that they fit in the identity of both colors, in both parts of the color pie. And they don't fucking need hybrid cards to print busted chase rares. Did you forget the One Ring? If they want to print a value engine that goes in every deck that can just do that you retard they own the fucking game.
God i can’t be less hyped for this ATLA shit… Nickelodeon should burn in hell alongside Hasbro.
>>96857601>Do you have any rebuttal to Yugioh-youtubers who constantly doom-and-gloom about the current state of Yugioh (allegedly in decline)?Yugioh bottomed out around mid 2010s and has since been on a slow uptick. Genesys is a result of that. It is actively, if slowly, getting better.
>>96857818thank you, anon
>>96857575Yugioh is a fun card game if you want to play one (1) turn of a card game.
>>96857748I see, sorry that I can't help then, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about pauper tron, I just tried looking up lists on mtgtop8 including/excluding cards
>>96857836It just compresses multiple turns worth of actions into a smaller number of turns.
>>96857796You do you man. Slap some brainstorms to help you dig for tron, condescend and prohibit as counterspells, and try to finish the game with spined megalodon. Good luck.
>>96854047They somehow made it worse. How is wizards so bad at their job?
>>96857836At least YuGi respect himself as a card game and not as a Fornite
Requesting the next OP to include information on Planar Standard. It's going to save magic
>>96857848>>96857837thanks for the advice anons im gonna take a shot at this stupid jank brew and feel like a genius the 1/10 times it works
>>96857862Yes, I don't like UB either, but the gameplay is just way worse for me. I don't like how compressed it is and I don't like the overabundance of tutors. It's just a game that promotes patterns of play I find miserable and exhausting, nothing more.
>>96857864It's not played outside Nebraska.
Today is the ATLA stream, right?
>>96857915Sadly yes.
>>96857457Of course it has flash when stealing vigilance wasn’t enough for JOTC Are these the white flash cards you promised, Gavin?
>>96857530>JOTC always hated WhiteI’ll never get tired of being vindicated every time
>>96857957They never called fascists wrong.
not Magic the Gathering
>>96857457She'll likely have a second card of her as an enemy. Her being an Ally is because this is after she's switched sides (though she wasn't all that HAPPY to switch sides, she just kinda did it and was terrified of Azula even so).
>>96857893It's booming what do you mean
>>96857449Huh, interesting it says "create a Clue token" instead of "investigate". Wonder if they're just scrapping investigate as a term.
>>96857457>Ty Lee, Orgasm DenierWtf I love wotc now
>>96857942>blue>stealing flash>?????
>>96858031>“Investigate” means “Create a Clue token.”Probably just omitted for flavor purpose.
>>96858031They often omit keywords when they're the only usage of the mechanic in the set.
>>96857457This card is annoying as FUCK>Soft removal>Flash which is like a pseudo-haste>Prowess, which has become like a slightly more honest Storm at this pointThey are going to pump this set to get Avatar faggots and competitive players so you're going to be playing against Korra and Aang in eternal formats
>>96858086>I will have to see this not-Magic shit even in eternal formats.Is JOEVER.
>>96858079Not with Clues, though. The only other instances of card text with "create a Clue" in term are ones where it's created alongside other tokens. Otherwise it's ALWAYS investigate.
>>96858060>>96858079Worth noting that omitting the keyword means that effects that say "when you X, X twice" wouldn't work but I don't know if any of those even exist for investigate.
>>96858086Being a legendary actually makes it worse.
>>96858099Literally only this.
>>96857449It's a rare with reminder text so yes.
>>96857457is...is that...exposed...teenage??midriff!!!???
>>96857457>those subtle abs the artist understood the assignment perfectly
>>96858052Blue stole Vigilance retard. Your lack of reading comprehension is showing
new bread?
>>96858401reveal stream in 44 minutes, just wait
Meanwhile, a picture for ants.
>>96858456Best I can tell it's vigilance, prowess, Allies you control have prowess and when you cast a lesson, make a 1/1 Ally token probably?
>>96858364You said "of course it has flash, stealing vigilance wasn't enough." Thus you said Blue also stole vigilance when Blue in fact has had it day 1.
Be sincere anons ATLA looks miles better than Spooderman are you excited?
>>96858491I mean Spider-Man was a bad set mostly for structural reasons so of course ATLA's gonna be better, it didn't start as something else and become a proper set midway through (or if it did it made that pivot much earlier).
Nonlegendary Cabbage Merchant
>>96858491I was never an Avatar fan, so I am skipping it.
I'm not an Avatar fan, just enjoyer.
>>96858491femur fracture looks miles better than ass cancer but I want neither
>>96858501honk honk
>>96858501Can I pop multiple Foods with this card's triggers on the stack? Will each of them ramp me rven though I can't shuffle the OG back in after the first trigger resolves?
>>96858549Yes.
>>96858501Why not "shuffle this card into its owner's library," like Omens?
>>96858501>basicg a r b a g e
>>96858569The Omen wording was a bit ambiguous, I've seen a few people try and just stuff the Omen somewhere random inside the library. They might have wanted to avoid that issue.
>>96858491Fuck UB… Looks this trash >>96858501is the fucking equivalent of Hot Dog Cart.This outsider IPs looks so soulless and shitty is unreal.
>>96858569>>96858576The Omen tutors shuffle wanted you to shuffle it after you searched your deck but the actual rules are that you search for a land then you shuffle after that you shuffle in the Omen card. This won't matter most of the time but there are cards that care about you shuffling.
>>96858605>is the fucking equivalent of Hot Dog Cart.No it's not.
>>96858456can't see shit at 1080p boss
>>96858653OINK OINKSLOP FOR THE SLOP GOD
please no pauper playables in atla please no pauper playables in atla please no pauper playables in atla please no pauper playables in atla please no pauper playables in atla
>>96858652It is piggy but you are so mindbroken you can’t see it…
they literally not letting you dislike the video btw
>every RCQ is now required to be spooderman kike slopFuck you JOTC.
>>96858695Too late
>>96858696No it's not. It's a comic relief character from the series.
>>96858703Hahahaha what a company of pigs
>>96858703No?
>>96858703COMMENTS DISABLED STATUS?!
https://www.twitch.tv/magic/mtg/ is SAVED in 4 minutes
>>96858759>/mtg/ is SAVEDlmaothe slop trough filleth
>>96858759shut the fuck up shill
>>96858759> in 4 mins savedMore like fucked deeper.
where thread?
>>96858722Give it to me straight: which ones?
>>96858798>Three fucking versions of the same characterWotCFor the love of FUCK. STOP.WE HAD FORTY FIVE FUCKING SPIDERMEN STOP THIS FUCKING SHIT.ONE CHARACTER.ONE CARD.
hahahahhaha
>>96858809It's meant to represent their growth throughout the show, anon. There's 3 seasons, so 3 versions of major characters.
>>96858817>It's meant to represent their growth throughout the show, anon. There's 3 seasons, so 3 versions of major characters.I DON'T FUCKING CAREIT'S FUCKING SHIT AND BORING AND A BAD IDEASHOW THEIR GROWTH ON A FUCKING SORCERY YOU RETARDSI DON'T WANT TO OPEN A PACK AND HAVE HALF THE FUCKING PACK BE DIFFERENT COPIES OF THE SAME FUCKING CHARACTER
>>96858817can't wait for 150 card variations of the simpsons family
>>96858831>>96858828>>96858817>>96858809Legendaries were a mistake.
>>96858809bro's never seen a planeswalker
These snapshots from the show cards are so bad.
>Counter 4 spellskino
>>96858852nonono, i can't wait to decide whether to play flood pants millhouse or christian tattoo millhouse or factory guard millhouseso many optionerinos!!
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY SMOKING
>>96858491I am all the sudden I am way excited. Anime-aesthetics are a lot more appealing than Spider-man. I cannot help but associate Marvel superheros as something that a preschooler would enjoy, I feel deeply embarrassed at the thought of playing with Spider-man cards. Avataar is still pretty childish, but it is at least middle-scholar maturity instead of preschooler, so while still juvenile it is a huge improvement.I just hope the draft format isn't that god-awful Pick-Two format the same as Spider-man was.
>>96858879>Instant speed (Can be cast off Firebending mana)>Trades 1-for-1, clearing a blocker>Allows you to carry Firebending mana into the main phase.They are smoking hickory smoked assholes, anon.The buttholes of corporate executives.
>>96858883Pick-two seems to only be the 'main' thing for smaller sets. Avatar's a full set, so.
>>96858879Mountaingods win again
>>96858879*2 for 1s you*
>>96858879Red needs help please understand
>fight, but better green in shambles
>>96858879OH BOY I'M SO GLAD THEY PRINTED VIVI
Damn I'm not even half way through season 2 but it's already been spoiled to shit for me.
>>96858963What the fuck did you think was going to happen? It's a set about the entire show.
>>96858963Can't wait for the Harry Potter UB card>"Snape kills Dumbledore"
>>96858972I try not to think.>>96858974
>>96858963Bible UB soon bro better start reading
Firebending is hilarious as fuck, as expected.Everything else revealed was trash.
SOFUCKINGASS
>>96858997i can both mode and ai generate better art than thisand they're naked too
>>96858879Why are people freaking out about this? It's mediocre at best. Red already has plenty of good stuff against creatures, it wants stuff good against removal.
I already dislike the lesson synergies.
>>96858997Ah yes, the iconic Avatar moment of extreme close-up
BIG RED bros we're so back
> experience countersyawn emoji yawn emoji yawn emoji
>>96859053You'd need some deck manipulation in red to make that reliable, otherwise you'll just hit a useless removal or something like that.
>>96859082>If you don't cast...This effect at instant speed in red is really good, even in its fail state.
>>96859030I vomit. That's fucking garbage.Lessons will have one of two results in this set:>They print enough broken lessons for it to become god-tier.>They don't and they're still complete shit.
God not more shrineslop for the heckin 5color shrine commander
>>96858997>boy in the iceberg isnt thing in the ice
>>96858974are you excited for 1 main character card for each movie?i mean they are growing!!
>>968591123 mana to draw a nonland isn't good. No, the flashback doesn't make that good either. The card isn't worth playing unless you're reliably cheating on mana off it.
>>96859139>are you excited for 1 main character card for each movie?>Seven Ron Weasleysohgreat
>>96858804So the Azulas are Flash and Instants matter legends.
>>96858997Honestly this only shows how not good and really rather ugly Avatar's animation was.
i guess I can pretend some of these are from a kamiwawa set, if you squint
>>96859195The art is extremely chinese looking you racist.Also a cave card.
>>96858997the problem is that there is no "master" of the original show. it's all from reprocessed aired material at 480p
>>96859195looks more like tarkir than kamigawa
>>96859192Nah, all these sort of screenshot cards always look like shit. Same thing happened when they did it with Final Fantasy. Some images just don't work plastered onto a piece of cardboard with text slapped on top.
>>96859222i said "if you squint"
>White Lotus Reinforcements>They're Chinese dudes??
>>96859195Why is this Red? If it was Green, then II could put the land onto the battlefield and the card wouldn't be complete shit.
OINK OINK OINKYUMMY IN MY TUMMY
>>96859235You can identify Piandao and Pakku. Not 100% on the other two.
>no wall interactions ONEFUCKINGJOB
>"Hey bro what should we do for [insert literally fucking any set here]">"How about sagas?!"for the love of fuck WotC how are you SO creatively bankrupt
>>96859265Ba Sing Se will be an indestructible Wall.
>>96859235Looks like piandao, some rando, the fire nation deserter dude, and katara's sexist grandpa.
>lesson exile
>>96859234>squintEnough with the microaggressions.
>>96859265>power 4 or lessThey probably didn't want it to be that narrow, it'll be able to hit pretty much any wall anyway. Like anon said, the wall will probably have indestructible.
>>96859287The only reason to play the card this is "upgrading" is because the other card forces a draw.The draw being optional on this is actually a downgrade for every deck that would want to play this effect.
>>96859234>"if you squint"We're supposed Stop Asian Hate, anon, not perpetuate it.
so JOTC noticed that idiots would play "Unable to Scream" on +1/+1 counter pumped creatures
>>96859267Honestly this is one of my biggest complain about modern MtG, everything is so fucking uninspired, you always have the same mechanics, the same draft archetype, half of the card of every set are the same cards but with the set mechanic slapped onto it, you will have your "trigger an additional time" card in every set, you will have your card that allows you to cheat card into play every set, you will have your black universal tutor every set etc.. Every set look the same.
>>96859328Bro they really putting the rails on this shit with "enchant creature an opponent controls"
>>96859328>so JOTC noticed that idiots would play "Unable to Scream" on +1/+1 counter pumped creaturesCan't hurt the piggie feefees!
>>96859287We've had a colorless 5 mana lesson that exiles for 4 years now
>>96859267It's a saga in the show though
You forgot your tripcode, retard
>>96859021>Why are people freaking out about this?You cannot be this retarded when screaming nemesis exists
>>96859365Relax, nemesis is getting banned in 2 weeks
>>96859337>Every set look the sameSame shit, different asshole.We have the data. Every 2-color combo has ~3 archetypes that WotC seems to randomly pick from for every set. BG has Food and Graveyard. Every fucking set, the BG archetype is one or the other. WR is literally just Aggro repeatedly. Shit is so bloody boring now.Limited has gone from a fine dining restaurant with unique dishes every time, to fucking fast food slop.
>>96859365You cannot be this retarded when we already have burn spells that can also trigger it and have much better uses when not drawn with nemesis. It's a dead card against control, at best it'll be sideboard filler. You guys are making the most common mistake in evaluating cards, you're only thinking of the best case scenario.
>>96859337and yet none of you no life chuds has killed rosewater already so his doubling autism would stopi mean your life has literally no value, why not go out with a bang
>>96859390but it's flourishing in nebraska tho
>>96859406Now that you mention it, Magic IS booming in Nebraska......Guess the game turning to shit is fine!
>>96859395>brazilian tries to convince other people their life has no valuejokes write themselves
>>96859385See you in 2 weeks when it won’t be>>96859394You cannot be this retarded when control is a dead archetype against red aggro and vivi. Pull the crayons out of your mouth and take a nap little boy
Fun Firebending card
Firebending confirmed for fucking busted
>>96859426ok anon, I hope you remember this post once the set drops
>>96859462REDWINSBABY
>>96859462I can´t laugh hard enough at all the retards that said that Firebend will not be problematic at all lmao. Was absolutely clear.
>it goes hardYou can really tell that WotC loves Avatar but didn't give a shit about spoodermang
>>96859588koh spottedcard when
>>96859588>2UU>Scry 2, then draw a card.lmaosuch mythicmuch value
>>96859626Yeah it's just scry 2 draw 1 if you ignore everything else
>>96859632>Yeah it's just scry 2 draw 1 if you ignore everything else>Play it on turn 4.>Immediately die.I will, in fact, be ignoring everything else, thank you.
>>96859639thank you for your valued input
>>96859612it's the card that steals triggered and activated abilities that nosewater teased
set confirmed busted UB reigns supreme
Where's the bloodbending card that lets you control an opponent?
those are some nice blockers you have there...
>>96859666
OMG I FUCKING LOVE BRAINSTORMING AND EVALUATING ATLA CARDS IN A VACUUM
consult the star charts, but green and a lesson
MMMH!! SAGAS, LESSONS...
This is good, right?
>>96859674CONTROLLING OPPONENTS IS A BLACK EFFECTWHY THE FUCK IS THIS A BLUE CARD
>>96859708Not really, no. Unless there's a plethora of indestructible creatures you're dealing with, it's overpriced.
>>96859714actually it's a colorless effect (mindslaver, emrakul etc)NOW EAT IT!
>>96859714It's been colourless and black before but it's such a rare effect (only like 5 cards with it I think?) and it makes sense to be blue too given blue does stealing creatures and whatnot.
>>96859708Finally, 3 mana to kill Mighty Mouse and not die.
waiting for the Kyoshi saga
Was Richard from MtG Goldfish always this based? Since the Pigs and Slop post all his takes are on point. He shat on UB and Coomander so hard he made Crimge end up with a break down and skip like two episodes of their podcast.
>>96859758buy an ad
>>96859765MaRoid seething.
imagine watching a podcast with a clearly mentally ill disphoric twink with dyed hair and cat ears then coming to 4chan post about it
>>96859780we're not watching your podcast asian boy
>>96859758Based sad he is alongside the man rooting for more Beagle and Schmear.
>>96859738Yes so if it's so rare why not just fucking keep it in the ONE COLOR that it is in? If you only have to print one fucking card with this effect every five years, THIS SHOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT.
SECRET LAIR CABBAGE EDITION
Cute girl
>>96859794Why can't it be Blue.
>>96859796pigs love cabbage oink oink
>>96859802>Firebending X, where X is this creature's poweri'm going to pump her so hard...
>>96859808Because it is already black you idiot.
>>96859802Now this is an actually good firebending card
>>96859802This is either going to be a .50 cent bulk rare or a format defying card for prowess decks and I can't tell which.>swing>cast like 3 spells with firebend on the stack>get mana>cast more bullshit
>>96859828>No Haste>2cmcIt's shit.
>>96859823NOOOOOOOOOOOOI DON'T LIKE THE COLOR OF MY SLOPI WILL ONLY CONSOOOOOOOME IF IT'S THE COLOR I LIKE!!
>>96859828Holy shit i'm so retarded I thought you had to pump her on first Main Step>>96859836We simply give her a Wild Ride
>>96859836Is why I wasn't sure. I know prowess has had non-hasty/2cmc boys before, and just used combat tricks to give them haste.
>>96859838The color pie does exist, actually.
>>96859802Can’t they stop with the red bullshit? Seriously what this designers have in mind?
>>96859864Don't reply to the chatbot
>>96859864>color pieyou mean the color slop, piggy?
>>96859869TOTALREDVICTORY
>>96859845>We simply give her a Wild RideSure. Then what?Why would that be better than giving WR to Emberheart Challenger or Vivi?
>>96859802>play two turn inside out precombat, or any combat trick that gives 3 power>swing in and play 10 mana worth of instantsRed even got 1 mana protection from removal, it's fucking over.
>>96859871oink oink oink
>>96859883WHATTHE FUCKIS THAT CARD
>>96859883>MonoRed gets 1 mana countermagic in StandardIt's so fucking over.
>>96859875She can pay the Wild Ride Harmonize cost straight away for a 9 dmg swing. For 2 cards that seems pretty good.
>>96859899>>96859914Look, izzet cauldron is a little weak, mmmk? It just needed a little more juice
Red is actual cancer
>>96859921If she's paying for harmonize she can't swing in
>>96859921>r a 9 dmg swing.Anon, it's the year of our lord 2015 + 10.9 damage is not impressive. That's what SS can swing for out the gate, without needing a haste enabler.
>>96858879>>96859883Oh boi! I can’t wait to be crushed by Monored AFTER the Vivi ban like in the times of Heartfire! Is like so fucking iconic in Magic you know?
>>96859930She'll have Firebending 5 to pay for it. You don't need to tap anything for the cost reduction.
>>96859952Wild ride is a sorcery, anon.
>>96859957I'm massively retarded, ignore everything I said
UH why won't red pigs just let me consoome the non-read slop in peace ffs
>>96858879People are crazy if they think a 2 mana fight spell has any shot to ever be relevant in a constructed format.It's so easy to 2 for 1 yourself with it and it's a dead card against control.
>>96859030This is literally Uro at home.
>>968599812 mana fight spell that can potentially be a huge ritual and also allows you to carry combat mana to the second main phase none of these effects would be huge by themselves, but all together is nutsin a firebending universe, it will be busted.
Anyone going to this?
>>96860028Okay but is it faster than Leyline aggro and Vivi?
>>96857822>Color identity is not being threatened. In fact this change aligns closer with the spirit of color identity then not doing it.We have different ideas about what color identity means. To me it means playing with cards that share the same colors as your commander.>inb4 exceptions that let you run card with different colors to your commanderI have an irrational level of hatred for Fallaji Wayfarer. I might as well be a color segregationist.>And they don't fucking need hybrid cards to print busted chase rares.Already responded to this point: >>96857130
>>96859794Yeah I agree. Bloodbending is also black as fuck flavorwise
>>96860096>Gender identity anon once again saying that seeing the broccoli on his fire card triggers himGuys I think we found the WotC employee who thinks adding Burn Together to leyline aggro makes it Rakdos.
>>96860117
>>96860122I'm not that guy, I just think the only good thing left about commander are its restrictions.
>>96860117>Blue gets Vigilance!>Blue gets Reanimator!>Blue gets mind control!Just delete all the other colors at this point honestly.
>>96859748Wonder what they're gonna do for Yangchen since she's the only one that wasn't really talked about in the show
>>96859758In a world of the blind, the one eyed man is constantly seething over having to explain shit to everyone.
>>96859227Earth Kingdom is based off of ancient china and Fire Nation is based off of imperial Japan. The original creators did a lot to try to make things feel authentically (fantasy) asian
>>96858804Sex with AzulaMy dick loves slops apparently
>>96860146we need to return to the game's roots and give blue burn and the most efficient aggro creatures
>>96858031>In previous sets, Clues were associated with the investigate keyword action, but investigate isn't returning here. The effects that create Clues just do so directly.
>>96860246investigate really should have been an ability word
>>96859802It's also the Buy a Box promo... the team making this set are 100% gooners
>>96859981>Oath has been banned for so long people are forgetting the tech
>>96860365>the team making this set are 100% goonersThere have been an honestly unnerving amount of random feet picks stapled onto recent cards. It's beginning to approach the line between just coincidence and getting actually creepy.
>>96860365
>>96860418feet are in this weird limbo where feet gooners really fucking explode for sexy feet, but it isn't in the general coomer consciousness like tits&ass, so censorship is very lax on it, so they gravitate to the path of least resistance
>>96860464>feet are in this weird limbo where feet gooners really fucking explode for sexy feet, but it isn't in the general coomer consciousness like tits&ass, so censorship is very lax on it, so they gravitate to the path of least resistanceGuess so. Now I'm just having PewDiePie flashbacks where he'd put censor bars or blurs on his video any time Marzia's feet appeared.What a great husband, honestly.
to be fair, the feet thing was kinda part of ATLA from the start you just know there was a feetfag running the show
>>96860146>Blue gets mind control!I know right, blue has never had the ability to control opponents stuff!!!
>>96860464I mean, what are you gonna say? >"Hide those indecent toes, you fucking whore!"
I'm starting to think this game sucks now
>>96860536>now
>>96860526Different effect, Captain Stupid.
>>96860543I didn't feel this way yesterday but I do feel this way today.Yes. Now.
>>96860526Blood bending is very explicitly the opposite of mind control, it's body control. You're conscious and aware as your body is jerked around like a puppet
>>96860536>starting to think>now
UOOOOOHHHHHH
>>96860585>Uooooooooh gonna Coooooooooomm!!!We want the YuGi audience uh?
>>96860598Traptrix UB when?
Red is clearly the biggest winner in avatar but who is the biggest loser?
>>96860746White, looks like.
>>96860746Green. Animating lands is cute but nothing amazing. Otherwise it's greens normal fare which is already poor in standard
>universes beyond is the price to pay for having cute girls on cards againWhat a monkey paw
>>96860779Green might get some jank going with earthbending acting as an extra landfall trigger when they die.
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