Previous: >>96857945Wall edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:Have you ever played a pillowfort deck?
So what are the best hybrid cards for this guy outside of boros?I wanna stuff my deck full of as many as I can so that the whole thing is an awkward mess of colors.
>TQI love sitting and gaining life with Oloro
>>96867507Not really a lot.Guttural Response is there but you have to hope someone is playing blue otherwise its a dead cardHustle//Bustle is an overrun option or a cheap 1 mana 4/4Inside Out and Manamorphose are cantripsLurrus can get small dudes if you go that routePriviledged Position gives hexproofReknit is a one-time regenThe Azorius Sokka, Lateral Strategist gives cardsTheres also a fair number of 1 drops you could use to rush out more 4/4s if you plan to go that route
>>96867579default printings are so ugly lmao >tfw you have to put conscious effort into making your deck not look like a pile of throw up these days
>>96866568>Very similar in my view to the way D&D has become increasingly magenta, and every party is some bizarre assortment of increasingly outlandish races.magenta?
>>96867507
Will WotC print REAL chaos cards ever again?
>>96867648It's a video game thing, but it's the same kind of aesthetic and writing trend as we see in D&D and MTG.https://www.ryanthomson.net/articles/magenta-game/
>>96867507Manamorphose
>Clearly, you don't own an air fryer
>>96867793who are you quoting?
>>96867802me
Avatar should have been an AC sized set. Even LOTR didn't have this issue with so many versions of the same character. Apparently the series had 0 minor characters. What are we at? Like 7 Aangs?
>>96867255>>96867271>>96867278Later today I can take a picture of my Oros deck I threw together a few weeks ago. It's barely a bracket 2 and needs work, but that's part of the fun. I probably took inspiration from one anon I'm quoting here. Nothing but white creatures, lots of deathtouch equipment..
>>96867493>Have you ever played a pillowfort deck?No one attacks me because "MUH FREE CARD" Greed is the ultimate fort.
>>96867744Probably never, because most players, old and new, don't really like Chaos. You're an outlier and your playgroup/LGS probably doesn't like playing with you.
>>96867493>Have you ever played a pillowfort deck?Yes. It's a lot of fun playing defense.https://archidekt.com/decks/14793786/jenara_asura_of_war_walls
>>96867836Proofs?
>>96867836>>96867744How many more chaos cards could they even print? Aren't there enough? I do like them every once in a while. Definitely forces your to play differently and adapt in a way you've probably never had to in normal games. Sort of like using the Planechase cards. It's fun once in a while to spice things up.
>>96867828I'm so glad my playgroup isn't like this. Someone handing everyone free resources? Kill him first, because he's helping the other opponents and can probably better use the free stuff he gives out better than those he's giving to. Nekusar and Sheoldred haven't won a game for MONTHS now in my playgroup.
I'm coming back from hiatus, apparently the only format left is edh?Can someone give me some direction here, I just want to play a deck/decks that remind me of the decks I was playing before I leftMono white prison (legacy)U/W Control (legacy)Boros Burn (Modern)Boomer Jund (Modern)
>>96867875Honestly anon this sounds like your playgroup fails to recognize cause/effect if you see Sheoldred and think the problem is group hug.
>>96867648Another cringe buzzword zoomies who noticed their first fad use. Same as slop, [insert]core, [insert]wave, etc. terminally online retards today can't comprehend brief fads have always existed and will continue to exist long after they've (supposed to have) aged out of target demographics for things.
>>96867908You may want to reread his post. He's describing why Sheoldred and Nekuzar and the like don't get wins because in his group they get focused down once their everyone draws cards start coming down.
>>96867866There may not be much safe design space left for massive board churning chaos spells but I'd love to see more chaos interaction in the form of donate spells and forcing players to exchange control of permanents at instant speed. Casting Wrong Turn and giving someone's commander to the opponent they just hit is immensely satisfying.
>>96867875Ok I'll just 7 board wipes or use my 10 counter spells or my 15 pieces of targeted removal. It's a control deck. Not sure why you think I am not overflowing with answers.
whats the best way to counter big stupid creature pile decks like dinos, merfolk, etcstax? combo? jamming 50000 board wipes? i am tired of losing just because some dude spun atla palani and nobody had interaction so its just game over
Anyone built Balthier and Fran? Would you recommend?
>>96867961Fogs are basically extra turn spells vs greedy combat decks. Just have a wincon of your own.
>>96867972As ever, I recommend dumping Universes Beyond in the shredder.
>>96867979Shut the fuck up, moron.
>fast commander>gets counters from everything>a few discounts and cast for free even with a couple commander taxes>can be used as a snack in a pinch>also punishes planeswalkers even though it's completely sufficient alreadyI love this cookie monster like you wouldn't believe
>>96867955You're doing that to 3 whole other players concentrating on you? The second everyone realizes what you're doing? Funny.
>>96867878>PrisonEriette or any enchantress deck really. >UW controlShorikai Genesis engine vehicles. (I know it sounds weird but you can wipe all creatures and play hard control with no risk to your own beaters.>Boros burnPlay Rakdos or izzet burn instead.>Boomer jundDisa the Restless can make goyfs relevant again, but I like Kresh the Bloodbraided myself
>>96867878>Boros Burn (Modern)This is /edhg/ approved UB
>>96867982>SQUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHush, piggy
>>96868042>Taika Waititi
>>96868058Do you ever get tired of being so obnoxious?
>>96868058FF isn't slop.
>>96867493>TQYes, I remember being a teen and playing a dude in a vintage game who had dega sanctuary, necra sanctuary, and a fuck ton of protective enchantments. I fell in love with the style then and there. I got off to the art AND the effect of solitary confinement. Strangely I'm not a huge stax guy. It's more fun to let people play and just withstand the onslaught. Cant do that with combo decks (unless you're really handy with a pithing needle), but I cant change what I like.
>>96868068Do you know how you'd feel if you didn't eat slop this morning?
>>96868082what makes FF slop?
>>96868042This actually pairs bretty gud with the sharpshooter
>>96867972>vehiclesNo
>>96867979Final Fantasy is a better franchise than MtG howeverthoughbeit
Since they are going to unban everything or a new EDH format will be created, I'm just going to start playing with banned cards at my LGS. >next up>this guy
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96868090Why?
>>96868103Where the fuck are you getting this delusion from?
>>96868086ANYTHING that is UB is slop period. Doesn’t matter if it’s good, if it fits the in game universe or the cards are well designed or has a Magic adjacent art style. It is SLOP and you are a PIG for enjoying it and should be ASHAMED and GUILTY and thus your points are all null and void and you should just stop posting.We are anti-slop posting in /edhg/, perhaps Reddit would be more your style? *Insert incoherent mocking pig noises here*Now that that’s done, what’s everyone’s thoughts on HOW AWFUL HYBRID MANA IS?! Fucking nosewater RUINING the game
>>96868113Nta but vehicles and crewing are a slow clunky mechanic that will never swing above bracket three
>>96867810They're deliberately doing multiples to showcase character growth throughout the show, they're still doing minor character one-offs too.
>>96868070All UB is slop. If you like slop, you like slop, but don't try telling real humans that your pig feed is filet mignon
>>96868122Your opinion is that of an extreme minority. Minorities are bad. Thus you are bad
>>96867979Fuck you I like the vivi ortinier card even if I don't play blue decks.
>>96868091Oh you should probably go play FF instead of MtG then
>>96868136They didn't do this with any other IP. It is clearly a lack of characters. This wasn't a 5000 episode show.
>>96868150I do.
>>96868153LTR had a bunch of versions of the same characters to show them at different stages in the books. SPM had Peter Parker in various notable stages of his life.
>>96868140ff was indeed better than any in universe st of the last 3 years
>>96868116Writing is on the wall, anon.
>>96868087Huh, you're right, it's a shame Taika's not presented as a spotter.
>>96868179So, literally>DUDE>TRUST MEFuck off, retard
>>96868170>>96868149>I am a pig and I eat slop
>>96868201>he says as he is fine with tons of sets based off real world cultures like Greece and EgyptYou just prefer generic Aldi brand slop
I like UB personally
>>96868217>NOOOOOOOOO DRAWING INSPIRATION FROM REAL LIFE PLACES IS TOTALLY LIKE SELLING CARDBOARD ADS AS PART OF A 3RD PARTY IP LICENSE DEEEEEEEAL
>>96868232>I-it's just inspirationIt's a clone with changed names. You like derivative generic shit.
>>96868231I'd like it if every set had in-universe alts by default.
>>96868246>piggy is ashamed that he likes his cardboard funkyslops and has to seethe about real world mythology to feel better lol
>>96868255>I don't know what funkopop is
>>96868231Most do
>>96867878>Mono white prison (legacy)>U/W Control (legacy)>Boomer Jund (Modern)These grindy value based/control decks actually don't translate to edh very well, at least without combos.You could probably get away with uw control and big token spells like entreat the angels. >Boros Burn (Modern)Burn (mono red) has been getting a stupid amount of support. I recommend playing pic related until you get a better idea of how you want to approach control
>>96867992What's the flavor behind the PW clause?
>>96868255what makes UW less consumerist exactly? genuinely asking
>>96868191If you can't see that since WOTC has taken over the rules and makes all cards solely for commander because it's the only thing making Hasbro profits, and that is going to lead to even more decisions based on short term profits instead of good game design and longevity for the format, then you are completely clueless. Commander is turning into the exact thing EDH was created to be, and players WILL start a new format independent from it. I'm sorry but you won't be able to play your UB slop, hybrid mana cards, partners and you will have to deal with a new banlist and your commander WILL GET TUCKED TO THE BOTTOM OF YOUR DECK.
>>96868274Keep telling yourself that, Mark. How did Spider-Man do again?
>>96868287Why is Avatar being universally appreciated?
>>96868283>how is an original product different to licensing 3rd party IPs for cardboard ads?Come up with better bait
>>96868286Bro you have no evidence. Now fuck off.
>>96868294so would buying books of UW characters make you a consoomer?
>>96868290Source?
>>96868070Dawg FF is slop to the coreMotherfuckers bringing back people to life with their tears and shit like its pokemon 2000 The games are fun don't get me wrong but let's not pretend like they aren't totally slopAnd dont you fucking get me started with the international warcrime that is ff14.
>>96868306Social media
>>96868298>nuh uhYou argue like a flat earther.
>>96868312That doesn't sound like a very good source to me anon. You know WotC pays influencers to talk about this shit right?Howbout we wait on some numbers hmkay?
>>96868201I play Phyrexia pretty much exclusively.I own a Necron Commander deck but I never get to use it.
>>96868313As soon as you provide evidence the argument may start. Otherwise there is no argument to have.They also use scientific facts with flat earthers. Not "OMGF LMFAO DUDE JUST LIKE IT'S SOOOOO OBVIOUS BRO LMAO FF NO CAP"
>>96868201Thats not possible because FF is the only set I've actually bought or paid for in the past 4 years.
>>96868337FF was a flop
>>96868348I mean from what I've seen, sales wise, it might be one of the few recent sets that wasn't a flop. But I don't know. I haven't bought any magic but FF in 4 years.
>>96868363ok then explain why UB died in like 3 months
>>96868337Sounds like you only played slop
https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_QSurge to victory is my wincon
>>96868371I don't know why you're asking me lolIn general I don't care for UB. But I like FF more than I care about mtg. I'd be fine if it all goes away, and I predict next years sales outside of Lorwyn are going to be abysmal dogshit. Maybe not The Hobbit, because people ate up that bastardized LotR set for some reason>>96868379It was treated very well because Square-Enix kept them in line.
>>96868420Whoa hes fast
>guy sits down at table>seems genuinely stupid and new>he isn't and it was all an act to get everyone to go easy on him so he could winNANI!?!?
>>96868427
>>96868420>gets chumped blocked all day>but allows other creatures to also draw if they get throughPretty based little guy, ngl.
>>96868427I do this, it helps that I'm black
>>96868461Let's be real. You're a fat bearded white guy with sunglasses and a hat
>>96868463I wish
>>96868427This is me half the time, I’m super high but know all the rules and complex plays. >metamorphoses all permanents my opponents control, lands on topAlso -UnrelatedWhen are they going to add ‘meta’ hate?I.e.Taxes, ‘demonstrating an infinite’, replacement effects and triggers in general. There’s enough token and counter hate, but none for these
>>96868282https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzBrfW7Ipzg
>>96867875Larp posts like this are so funny when you try to imagine the universe they'd take place in
>>96868512What is super complex about metamorphoses
>>96868231Congrats on being 95% of the playerbase
>>96868675wrong
>>96867943or, you know, they just play Sheoldred control and win because Sheoldred is the problem.
>>96868545Wtf did I just watch lol
>>96868734Throne of Eldraine Official Trainer - Magic: The Gathering
>>96868734[YouTube] Throne of Eldraine Official Trailer – Magic: The Gathering (embed)
Post decks
Is it bad form if I play a card that makes target player draw X cards, if I have a mana loop in play, to make them lose?I've never tried a mill deck, and its not really the "goal" of my deck, but I was just messing around with it by myself and realized I had this potential.
>>96868770Yes it is typically considered bad form to instakill one player and leave the other two alive.
>>96868777Hmmm. Well then maybe if I come across the chance to use this in an actual game I'll either just mill half of someones deck who is being a pain, or save it till its just two of us left.
>>96868763
>>96867992You play her as a commander? How does she usually play out? She seems like she could be kind of fun.
>>96868545>>96868757I thought it was fairly well-executed, we got to see garruk cleave through a bunch of palace guards in the background and have a fun expectation subversion at the end. Clearly leans on media like Shrek but I thought Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You was a nice choice, than song has been burned into my memory by The Deer Hunter. It tells you that we're doing a fanciful fairy tale set but there will also be darker undertones.>>968687631/2
>>96868770Not really? I mean taking out a player is taking out a player. Just preferable if you have a way to deck out every opponent at once so you don't have one guy just waiting several turns or whatever.
>>96868789Thats my wife.
>>968687972/2 (The cringe one)
>>96868807Captcha: u r gay
>>96868792Voltron, it's easy to give a lot of early-game commander damage and recast after removal. I run a lot of tokens, thopters and aztec gnomes, and run awkward artifact tutors to get Shadowspear and Aettir and Priwen. I am of course raped by artifact removal and avoid Eldrazi for flavor reasons so it's not a very serious deck but it it is very fun and versatile, Surge Conductor and Steel Commander can make the tokens scary fast and I proxied all the expensive cards.
>think I finally found that final missing piece that I needed in my deck>find out I misread a crucial part of the text, the card doesn't actually do what I needed it to do
>>96868512t. aristocrats player mad someone cast Stone of Erech
>>96868512>When are they going to print trigger hateThat's called Torpor Orb and Summary Dismissal, dumbass.
Hey /tg/, are you stupid? When was the last time you double blocked advantageously?
>>96869004I don't even remember the last time anyone swung at me when I had more than two creatures that could block.
>>96869004I genuinely can't remember the last time the opportunity to do that presented itself to me in an EDH game. I do it all the time in other formats though.
>>96869004Not often. Did it a little while ago with a small army of thropters I had but that's about it. Often in groups I've played in if someone is attacking they either don't care about the creature that's attacking or there's something going on that blocking wouldn't do anything or isn't an option. Either a flier, or flying with menace, an indestructible trampling death touch creature, or some other thing like first strike death touch.
>>96867810There are like 8 gandalfs, if anything lotr was worse
>>96867810>Avatar should have been an AC sized set.These are universally dog fucking shit.
Any reason this card doesn't see more play? It seems really good to me.
>>968690675 mana do nothing.
>>96868985what? No I’m talking about doubling effects, but replacement hate would be good in general>>96868995>hurrr use counterspell #5Yeah, we all know blue can counter abilities, I’m talking about trigger hate in general, not countering abilities on the stack dipshit. >Reginald, flame goblinWhenever another ability triggers, deal 1 damage to it’s controller.
>>96868512Isnt there an elesh norn that does trigger hate
>>96869067Looks fun, run it. Most players, like >>96869072 are competitive cucks in a four player meme format and are slaves to edhrec
>>96869097Go away. I've already told you before, if you don't like the way Magic plays (trigger, trigger, trigger, boom, boom, boom!) you just don't like Magic. Quit and play another game.
>>96869072I can't deny that, but I feel like with decks that play a lot of non-flying creatures it's a way to turn removal/wipes and chumpblocks into pressure. I think of it in the same class as "your creatures gain indestructible" type cards, with sorcery speed and higher mana cost as drawbacks for the higher value ceiling.
>>96869097>Damn I hate doubling effects>What? No I won't run removal! That requires me to like... keep mana open... and think!
>>96869097>Whenever another ability triggers, deal 1 damage to it’s controller.That's never getting printed. Not only is it an unbelievable chore to track (you have literally doubled the number of triggers you need to track for the rest of the game) it's too-wide hate. It's not a silver bullet, it's "10 damage per turn unless you're playing vanillas and nothing else."
>>96869067For a more level-headed analysis; it is five mana that doesn't do anything until one of your creatures bites it. You'd get the most value out of it self-sacing stuff, but summoning sickness is then a bitch for the board unless you have a haste source.If you can cheat or ramp it out earlier it might be good. Sliding bullshit on to the table and say "oh and it's an angel now" for tribal stuff like Giada could be lots of fun, but tripping it intentionally is the issue. Orzhov is almost going to be guaranteed to be necessary to get creature sac for any cheaper than Ashnods and getting any value out of it; at which point you're looking at 8 mana before targets.Additionally, if you're going to do angels, your real angels can't be targets. Tribal synergy that has tribal antisynergy is a bridge to sell.Overall it's a lot of hoops, but I could see it as a piece of a build-around strategy. I may consider it for a Ratadrabik/Colonel Autumn Aristocrats brew, but it's a hard sell.
>>96869067Wouldn't this jam in a Persist deck?
>>96869286Well, lemme think.Persist Creature dies; you choose the order to resolve Persist or Valkyrie's Call: If Persist resolves, it comes back with a -1/-1 and Valkyrie's call misses targeting. If Valkyrie's Call resolves, it comes back an angel with +1/+1 and flying.When the Angel Persist Creature dies, Valkyrie's Call doesn't trigger, but Persist does. It returns to the field with a -1/-1; which I guess means Valkyrie's Call can go off.So you'll be flip-flopping between a +1/+1 Flying Angel version and a -1/-1 of your Persist Creature. Not bad, but you could have just gotten something to give it +1/+1 counters on entry for cheaper.
Will Wang Fire get a legend I can make my commander?
>>96869261Flying synergy?
I missed the new thread so I'll repost here. I want to run pic related as an elf tribal commander. Are there any cool elf-specific enchantments or am I just windmill slamming anthems like nobodys business?
>>96869389Run it with this.
>Watched someone unironically argue about hybrid mana for 3 hours with the actual "I can see the broccoli in the fire deck" stance>After getting clowned for 3 hours he just says "Well any rules change is just opinion"
>>96869137Nah you dont get it hes super smart and understands complex magic.
>>96869049There are 6 Gandalfs. There are 6 Aangs. And Gandalf wasn't all in the main set. One came later. Avatar is worse.There are four FrodosThere are 6 SokkaThere are 3 SamThere are 6 KataraThere are 3 SarumanThere are 3 PippinThere are 4 TophAvatar is worse by far>>96869057Then don't pick a series lacking content.
>>96869424Oh I messed up. Meant to add there are 4 Azula and 4 Sauron.And this set isn't even finished I think.
>>96869355If you've got another 5 mana to pull out of your ass I suppose so. It seems like a reason just to run Wonder though.
>>96869415Yep and he was right
>>96869415>with the actual "I can see the broccoli in the fire deck" stanceWhat the actual fuck does that mean?
>>96867950I feel like card swapping mechanics have always been somewhat disliked for the pure fact that you're giving some neckbeard your cards so he can bend and flick and dirty them. It's especially bad now imo since everybody is looking at cards like investments and things are so pricy. Who wants to hand their $90 foil commander or secret lair card to somebody with an entire deck of bent cards?
>>96869097>Whenever another ability triggers, deal 1 damage to it’s controller.Imagine if they actually printed this. If someone ran it, you could clone it and then donate the clone to them, instantly killing them as soon as any ability triggered.
>>96869415The color is on the card.
>>96869119I already told you, if you dont like the way magic plays, cast spells do thing! Then you need to stop using counter spells and removal.Things like torpor orb are great, as more and more complex and powerful abilities are printed, along with ability and copy doubling becoming more prevalent, there needs to be hate for this beyond 1 or 2 spells and farewell.
>>96869463Yeah, which I think would balance it out to be honest. But that one is also pretty wide, it would be something morenspecific
>>96869463Yeah, that’s what I had in mind, a powerful card with a huge drawback that hits you too.
>>96867815>tutors>recursion>mass removal>targeted removal>ramp>draw>deathtouch stuff>lifegain/creature stuff>other permanents + card I'm thinking of adding as a tutor, but don't know what to cut. Maybe Adeline?>other spells >all the land I made this with my extra cards, so nothing too $$$ or optimized. I do like the theme so I'll be working on it. >>96868763>>96868763
>>96869493What is this angle? Are you on the ceiling? Spider-Man is that you?
>>96869424so they're the sameThere are two Avatar sets and the eternal one has two separate products in it
>>96869502One is finished and already had its supplimentary product. Another is still spoiling. Also I am unsure if the scene ones they showed are unique. If so, add up 1 for most characters. Characters like Azula are also not equal to Sauron. Cabbage man also has like two fucking cards.Your series has like 8 known characters and nothing else. The MK 1 Roster would end up with fewer clones in a set.
>>96869497Glare is a bitch. Only angle I could take it at where all cards are readable.
WelpI think I may grab my lil hammer and break some glass to add some cards to my Taii listSolphimSmokeWar-RidersFoil scattershot, Hello, Based department?Braid of fire???Isochron Scepter???I feel like this is going to approach B4 despite no GCs. Or is Scepter a GC? It should be
>>96869517I don't like red cards, except for Insurrection and Wheel of Fortune. Does that make me a bad person?
i would like to build a stax deck that excels in a creature heavy meta with almost zero combo players other than the occasional random include in someone's deck. i want to shut down some of the real cheaty/vomit/value engine decks. any suggestions?
>>96869525One day you will learn to love red cards. We get you hooked with a juicy WoF, next thing you know you're gooning to the idea of playing Repercussion into Blasphemous Act.
>>96868246Tbf some people dislike both theme park sets and ub slop
>>96869548No one brought up unfinity.
>>96868303Not him, but no. I think the difference lies in whether it's a first or second order product, and the degree of utility in the purchased object. Reading comics is less consumerist than playing ub or buying pops because it is a unique product in its own right. An issue of Spiderman tells a Spiderman story. Just like a deck of uw cards are their own product with their own unique purpose and origin. Llanowar Elf isn't a reference or tie in to another product; it describes an elf of the Llanowar woods.ub is inherently consumerist because it is an explicit commercial reference to another product, rather than a unique product in its own right. You are buying Stranger Things merch from Wotc essentially. It isn't as bad as funkos because the cards are at least game pieces.. Funkos serve literally zero purpose outside of being an outlet to turn money into product references.To go back to your question about a book, no a novel tie in to an mtg set is not a consumerist thing. It is a part of the unique product. When you buy the Odyssey cycle of books with the Odyssey fat packs, you are able to get the complete story, which isn't told in the cards. It is a sister product which extends the main product's value, if that makes sense. The book is an expansion of the cards and makes the cards more meaningful since you actually appreciate who Chainer or Kamahl are.
>>96868306t. Nebraskan
>>96868763Only change I’ve made since this pic is Jitte being taken out in favour of original Sigarda.
>>96869517What does War Riders do for you in Taii
>>96869613I never understood this meme
>>96869653>What does War Riders do for you in TaiiForce opponents to generate 1/1s. Clear the 1/1s easily with any number of AoE cards to draw a card for each one.
>>96869638>slopsayzzzz
>>96869732Alt commander is Karametra but deal with it fag. I bet you would probably do better against it than my friend group does.
>>96869603A sound and logical post? On this general? Blasphemous.
Behold, heterosexual romance on a magic card.
>>96869771omg bro we won
>>96869603>Reading comics is less consumerist than playing ub or buying pops because it is a unique product in its own right.Holy fucking copium> bad thing slop> good thing not slop
>>96869771UBchads... I kneel...
>>96869603You can tell this is a good post because it made him angry
>>96869771Didn’t we get one with Tidus kissing Yuna in the FF set too? Either way, UB seems to be the only way we’ll get non gay shit in MtG from now on.
situation tonight>adeline on board>ojer token trippler on board>play and equip heirloom blade targeting adeline>attack, make 9 tokens, adeline got 14 power>play embercleave targeting adeline>15/5 trample double strike adeline for killopponent claims I was angle shooting. my deck isnt a bracket 2 since this wasnt an incremental, telegraphed on board and disruptable win condition.this is it. fuck brackets. i will rebuild every deck to the maximum sweaty version that isnt cedh and just claim its a 7 whenever asked.
>>96869867>>96869771Sad reality unfortunately, and only for older IPs.
>>96869880>Fuck brackets>From now on I will actually do what people are accusing me of
>>96869888>my deck isnt a 7need some proofs for this claim
>>96869880Why are you being a crybaby about being accused of something you didn't do?Last time I played I ripped out with Bolas' Citadel like a third of my deck, gaining back life from Y'shtola to cover the mana costs and I got accused of masturbation. Like dude it's turn eight, I tried to end the game last turn but literally couldn't and your spineless podmate literally gave me doubled mana. I fucking have it, I'm taking it.That didn't even make my deck a 4.
>>96869867Oh wait until we get a Korra set.
>>96869902>Why are you being a crybaby about being accused of something you didn't do?hmmm
>>96869880>a retard was wrong, therefore brackets badThis story never happened
>>96869902>Why are you being a crybaby about being accused of something you didn't do?Normal people do this. Most would be upset if I accused them of fucking kids, for instance.
>>96869880Bracket users are the kings of angle shooting for free DQ wins
>>96869922their favorite is taking absolutely broken commanders and "tune them down" to bracket 2.
>>96869880That was telegraphed on the board though. Heirloom Blade barely changes the situation, since merely attacking with Adeline makes the tokens, and Ojer triples them. Your opponent sounds like a retard who would get pissy about somebody with a dozen elves and a dozen forests playing a craterhoof.
>>96869919But if you don't fuck kids, would you run to the internet to cry to complete strangers about how much you don't fuck kids?It's disproportional concern for literally fucking nothing.So someone calls you a sweaty angle-shooting tryhard at your local, so you're going to come running to papa 4chan to let them know that now you're gonna bet a sweaty angle-shooting tryhard?I'm not going to extend that to the kid fucking analogy and you shouldn't either.The more likely case is this is a (not very) elaborate (not very clever) fabrication to solicit (mild) outrage over (literally) nothing important.Lets talk about the fucking cardgame shall we? Lets talk about them printing a one mana fucking shrine and the impact on the local trout population.Pic related: It's the local trout population.
>>96869961>But if you don't fuck kids, would you run to the internet to cry to complete strangers about how much you don't fuck kids?If I was being accused on the internet? Yes.Retard
>reddit post format
>>96869962Well he wasn't playing EDH on 4chan now was he fuckboy?
>>96869961Everybody is talking about he bai the panda being the new shrine commander, but they fail to recognize the new shrines only trigger on etb. Go-shintai is still superior for doubling every etb shrine. I dont even think the panda is better than Sisay. I've gotten up to some real fuckery with Sisay as my shrine commander; sanctum of all, enchant Sisay with Chromanticore's bestow, fuck shit up with commander damage.
>>96869980you are in 5c. just blink him.
>>96869994I came here to say this too. Blinking the panda, or even the etb shrines.
https://scryfall.com/card/apc/98/fervent-chargeWhat are those worm/wurm like creaures on this card that crovax is standing on
>>96869994Still seems flimsy. You cram in some blink, blink panda, get some of the ass-y shrines, and fold. Unless there are some real AtlA shrines that fuck and are worth blinking too, building the non-shrine portion of a shrine deck to be blink doesn't seem worth it. Hell, blinking go-shintai helps you out more than panda for doomwake giant et. al.Plus, Go-shintai's other ability can bring annoying ass enchantments back from the gy. The panda creates spirit tokens, which is meh.
>>96870016Aint those kavu
>>96869961Fishing is a very tranquil activity
>>96870045I'd posit the etb shrines only have value as something that etb's/gets blinked. Their passives suck balls and are only marginally better than shrine tokens.
He's kinda weird. He's not a shrine or even an enchantment, which means none of the enchantress protection package works for him. He's good in places where you can blink him multiple times, but at that point I'm playing a dedicated blink deck and could be blinking literally anything else. The tokens he makes can't protect you and you have to pay wubrg for them, but they have good evasion for offense. I think I'd probably just update my old Go-shintai deck rather than make a new one with Hei Bai. Goes into the 99 for sure though.
>>96870160He has the advantage of not being Go-shintai and thus not making you arch-nemesis the moment you sit down to play
>>96870177Actually valid point.
>>96870177Sisay exists.
>>96870048>>96870016Im talking about the small green creatures.
How to best use Firebending? I was looking at the options. You are in dimir colors for flash tribal stuff, but it's a bit akward because the mana it gives you is red. You could just play a bunch of instants, i guess? Build the deck around cards with firebending and powerful instants. I also thought about building the deck around activated abilities (something i've wanted to do for a while now) but it just seems so jank
>>96869771UB is for straight aryan mentally well men. UW is for degenerate low iq freaks. This also explains why antiubtroons are so unhinged and deranged when it comes to UB, they are mentally ill and detest seeing normal attractive people on cards and not ugly urbanite bug people like themselves.
>>96870231I just personally don't like the door that UB opens. Crossovers can be cool in small doses, especially with non-mechanically unique Secret Lairs. Go ahead, put KoF or Soul Calibur characters or even Spider Man on cards, but don't make them unique (as to not force anyone to NEED them) and do not make entire sets. Now we have so much accelerationist shit going on where people can see the decline in quality (more misprints than ever, less balance/gametesting than ever, more sets per year, more than half of the cards next year being UB) happening.
>>96869638>>96869517>>96869493>>96868807>>96868797>>96868789>>96868763>posts decksBased. Thank you, anons.
>>96868763I picked up some new cards for it but I have no idea what I'd cut to make room.
>>96869789What do you think "slop" meant as a perjorative?
>>96870251>Crossovers can be cool in small dosesAgreed.But again, opens that door.Not EVERYTHING needs to be fortnite.And I saw this as someone who got really into the FF set. But its the only UB set I've bought anything for.
>>96870259>5 different UB in the same deck
>>96870190Probably saprolings
>>96870202>but it just seems so jankRun the grixis azulaFirebending itself is reasonably powerful but being in dimir is retarded
>>96870291Numerous decks posted have more than 5.
>>96870291
>>96870291and? deck looks fun.
>>96870357what?
>>96870365tranny
>>96870388Nope just a gay kinda feminine guy but try again
>>96870365I hope they never make a Nier UBBecause I will buy it.
Had an idea to build pic related as a bizarre combo deck where you spend your early to midgame dumping as much of your deck into the graveyard as you possibly can while assembling impact tremors effects and then try to make like 20 zombies at once with the commander, but it just has so many points of failiure that i don't see it actually being functional
>>96870291Rookie numbers.
I want to use the timmy ninjas.
if they get rid of hybrid restriction, why not get rid of the singleton restriction too?
>>96870433based?
>>96870433Shut the fuck upJesus christ you are retarded
>>96867793This set will be fondly remembered and this will one day be a meme that's enjoyed and not taken apart for it's lazy design because the card isn't completely unplayable. Honestly though while I am cynical I also acknowledge that this set is already clearly more passionately designed than the Spider-Man one. The mechanics in Spider-Man was garbage.
>>96870393that's why you should build it
>>96870433ummm if they took damage off the stack then why not just remove damage entirely?
>>96870451Yes we are very familiar with the whole "approved UB" Mindset from the reddit MTG community. The cringiest thing is how people cried over a Spider-Man meme card but love having 8 cards about a boring repetitive joke about le cabbages
>>96870459>weyou speak for yourself anon
>>96870452I think if a deck probably doesn't even function in most games if interacted with at all you should maybe not build it
>>96870430Midlife manchild Timmy ninjas!Midlife manchild Timmy ninjas!Heroes in a cash-grab, UB sloppa!
>>96870475based. Fuck turtles. I only like quenchy cabbages
>>96870478>wveryone actually likes some UBs and not others!!!You wish, MaRo!
Should I build the Raper King?
>>96870449no, really. you see, all the same reasoning applies here>the original intention (can play hybrid in mono/4 copies)>increases deck variety>you can still play the way you did before so it's just giving more options to other players>there are cards that are already legal in multiples so it's not even a big/new deal
>>96870486What a neat colorless card
>>96870490>le office is neatKYS
>>96870489Excellent idea anon. Would the number of copies be 4 like other formats or would we go higher as this is a 100 card format?
>>96870475oh not those ones, Fallen and Oni
>>96870393He's a great alternative in Coram but on his own I'm not sure. You'd need so much ramp and mill to get Bladewing on board early and online with any consistency that some games you'll only ever just cast rocks and pass.
>>96870493>the reaper king is colorless
>>96870500also the 100 card restriction could see a revision. this way people could play stuff like yorion or battle of wits which is a good thing
>>96870489Remember, they never intended for EDH to be a format, and color identity, the command zone, decks having to be exactly 100 cards, and singleton were never intended by WotC's card designers just like hybrid mana! Intention is clearly the only thing that matters so we should remove all of these lame restrictions so we can have a healthy format just like Standard.
>>96870525you know i wouldn't be shocked if they tried to rebrand standard as highlander-but-with-command-zone soon in attempt to pretend that other formats aren't dead
>>96870537>implying they won't try to push Brawl
>>96870537that was companion
>>96870485> cosmere
> AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE, WotCichu, stop this crazy thing!!
>>96870642They/them just had to make the 4 - 5 tutor mage look like this.
>>96870647> Art Guidance: draw a plus sized non binary wizard with a guitar. There should be a vehicle and maybe a spectral zombie in the art
>>96870647>human>has horns
Color pie sisters... our response??
>>96870722mono red bros...we can finally kill a fucking enchantment
>>96870729It is a massive relief seeing more generic removal like this as an option.
>>96870729you already could but for 7 with Scour from Existence, zuko's has the discount at the cost of clue token (which really isn't a downside worth -2 mana but powercreep)
>>96867507Wait this seams retardedly strong, basically a hexproof young pyro that makes 4/4s.What's the catch?
>>96870722anon...
>>96870759There isn't, other than you're playing Boros. I have a General Iron Rock deck, pure multicolored with the exception the artifacts and Defilers, and its win rate among my playgroup is ridiculous. Not really secret tech but Winona is fucking stellar in that deck, a must add.
>>96870782Why did no one tell me about this shit?
>>96870782>Sorcery speed>Just fucking gives your opponent the cardWhy do anons insist on being disingenuous? Yes, this was a way to remove enhancements in Red. Is it any good to use? Of course fucking not, you you fuck are like "Well, technically..." Yeah, yeah, fuck off.
>>96870784Because it came from an unpopular set and unlike Zuko's Exile, it's not that good.
>>96870800>Strixhaven>unpopularSource? Why would they go back to it within 5 years if it was unpopular?
>>96870801
>>96870802
>>96870800>unlike Zuko's Exile, it's not that goodwhether they're good or bad, they're both at the same power level
>>96870752strange way to spell anxiety
>>96870810>they're both at the same power level>Sorcery VS Instant>Direct card draw VS a fucking ClueNaw.
>>96870759>What's the catch?they always have it
>>96870849k
>>96870849didn't ask
>>96870849Nonland permanent vs. Artifact/enchantment/creature, meaning it can't exile planeswalkers (or battles but who cares lol)
>>96870919I see, at best, maybe 2 or 3 planeswalkers A YEAR. They're never relevant and die to people throwing creatures at them. And I have EVER seen a battle since they were printed. I think the tradeoff is fair.
>>96869558Theme park means sets like the Egypt and Greek sets. Hat sets, if you will. It's an old mmo term
>>96870759only 2 colors, but this is what makes him distinguished and based. if he were 3 colors, he would be insta slop
>>96870759The catch is that in order to get those 4/4s you often have to resort to a lot of really subpar spells.
>>96870231i love dark hair and straight cut bangs holy FUCK
>>96870759Here's my decklist for the General, he's fun as fuck.https://manabox.app/decks/NOYmKls8QaWNyJaIikPR1A
is picrel at any moment actually in the graveyard, so i could exile the graveyard in response to the trigger?
>>96871156yes you can respond to it with exile
What are some other commanders that read "fuck the player in turn order before me most"?
I like picking underdog commanders and tuning them to peak performance on a budget. I like using old weird RL cards with shit like cumulative upkeep and finding a deck that can run them well. My decks are too low tier for competitive, but make reddit casuals seethe because muh lands and muh infinites. How do I escape this limbo?
>>96870956Because walkers are (more like used to be, but still) pushed slop that's plain unfun to play for its price tag
>>96871171anything goad, really
>>96870393Sounds like a Karador deck except bad
>>96871171Anything grouphug/kingmaker centric
>>96871171>>96871242Good is my fucking favorite mechanic.>mfw goad EVERYTHING with a Sliver cascade>mfw Constricting Sliver removes all the little dorks, so all the goaded big guys are forced to fight
Alright i improved my first landfall deck a bit more and now got most of the cards on the way.https://moxfield.com/decks/Uw9H7PYqjkaCPIkZNxmNSQAnyone wanna give some feedback for it still please?
>>96871241Just hit them. Or burn them. I literally never see them played for months at a time and when I see them, the die without much effect. I think you're cry over nothing, anon. They're just enchantments that you can attack and your opponent has to waste effort making it work AND protect. Stop crying. Tell me, when was the last time you truly had to face a planeswalker? When was the last time a planeswalker in you COMMMANDER games matter?>B-bb-but ModernYou lost
>>96871310Not him, but I have gotten away with absolutely ludicrous shit because no one pays attention to planeswalkers.>playing colorless Eldrazi>cast Ugin Eye of the Storms>fucking no one bothers him and they continue to attack Zhulodok (commander) and another Eldrazi>Ugin gets his ultimate out>entire board is filled with big titans>lmao gg
>>96871329This never happens in my playgroup. In the startlingly rare occurrences it does happen, everyone reads the card, goes 'Oh, I don't want that to ult going off', then proceeded to beat on it till it died. I think i have only seen 1 ult before, and that was three years ago. Maybe your fellow players aren't that good?
>>96871329Impressive, my playgroup knows that planeswalker ulti's are stupid won't read the card and attack the walker exclusively to stop the ulti.
>playing bracket 3 game >opponent has 7cmc commander >plays two lands >bitches about being manascrewed the whole game >game goes on 23 turn cycles>he ends up playing 4 lands and 3 cards>complains about being mana screwed Meanwhile >taken down to 18 life by 9/9 mothman>play ensnaring bridge >artifact removal played by mothman player >Counter it >nobody plays interaction for 9 turns >3rd opponent draws out his whole deck>bounce laboratory maniac so he loses >win the game with mirrodin besiegedI fucking hate players who play no card draw, ramp or, interaction and bitch and moan about not being mana screwed or not able to win on turn 7 with an infinite combo or their 9 mana creatures they play on turn 5. How did a fucking blue player in bracket 3 have 36 cards in hand and not have a way to deal with me playing Aether spellbomb
How does the stack work in Magic? Let's say me and opponent each have 3 life, and we both have lightning bolt in hand able to be cast. If I cast mine first, he will cast his in response and his will resolve first, willing him the game. So we're at a standstill. Right?
>>96871388Why are you bitching about winning? Who fucking cares? You play at an LGS? You deserve everything you get until you create your own playgroup. This is the cost of playing against normies and randos
>>96871394No you just lose.
>>96871417Explain?
>>96871421His lightning bolt resolves first, so you die before yours ever resolves.
>>96871427Right, that means that if we both know we're holding bolt, we have to wait because we both know whoever casts first loses
>>96871171counterspells or any instant speed deck really
>>96871394Yeah, the last thing added to the stack is the first thing to actually happen once you start resolving it.Arena sucks ass in a lot of ways but I think it does do a good job of depicting the stack in an intuitive way.
>>96870796Just enjoy your UBslop power creep and fuck off lmao.
>>96871306>air ending is white>whole episode was about how these refugees have the spirit of airbenders>his card is blue and not whitePottery
>>96870016>>96870190Old saproling design. Search up any Invasion block cards with the word "saproling," or go see the old token.
>>96870460>>96870451Lol. Who will it be fondly remembered by anon?
>>96870796>be wrong>cry about disingenuousness
>>96870796It's great in Nekusar
>>96871561They aren’t actually airbenders though. Counterpoint was they’re a bunch of inventors squatting in the air temple, and they gutted the temple to put in a bunch of machinery, sounds very blue to me
>>96871561how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man. UB doesn't adhere to the colorwheel
>>96871780aren't inventors usually blue though?
>>96871499>>96871619Either seethe and die or just stop playing.>>96871637Nekusar just doesn't win in my playgroup.
>>96871879You seem to be the one seething anon. This is why I always recommend scryfall to noobies like you so players can actually learn about the cards that exist instead of a curated list of cards.
>>96871790Artificers are primarily blue and secondary red. There’s outliers but those are the main ones. I mean the best known artificer/ inventor in MTG lore is Urza and all of his creature cards have blue in them
