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Previous: >>96850745

Green hate edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ:
What cards do you run which expect opponents to run a certain color.
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>>96857945
I run a bunch of color hate, mostly blue or black color hate since those are the most overpowered colors in EDH games.
Seedtime, Lifeforce, Ruric Thar + hate pieces for blue, Order of the Sacred Torch/Stromgald Cabal, I think that color hoser cards are quite good when most people play 3+ color slop decks.
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BLOGPOST BELOW:

>group used to be just me and some friends from work who only played casual games
>friend invite some guy from a LGS he goes who only play tryhard stuff
>that guy start inviting other people from his LGS to our group who also only play tryhard stuff
>the two other friends of the original group left because they don't want to waste a weekend to sit and watch someone wins in 5 turns

And now I am the one leaving because I too am tired of this shit, fuck you, Daryl, for killing the group.
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>>96857945
Oh, that's a nice card. I should add this to my blue decks, there's always someone using green.
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>down to 7 to cut
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I removed thassas since getting 50 blue pips and clone legion would be too lame to win with

https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_Q
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>>96858118
I feel like I've been a Daryl in the past, without inviting anyone. I had this group that introduced me to commander and I would always borrow a deck of theirs. Once I built my own decks, I started winning by being a stax and combo player. I haven't been invited back since I locked them out of two games in a row with two different decks.
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Could I get some help with my GAAIV deck? I need some wincons other than attrition and theft.

https://moxfield.com/decks/z3cSk0odD0WZKMGqVd_z0w
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>>96860433
>you know what, let's actually look at his deck and see what we can do
>actual grand arbiter deck
>disgust

I'm sorry friend, I am just too repulsed at that decklist to help you
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>>96860459
Hey now, I only play it in high power pods. But to quote my buddy when he played against it "Who hurt you as a child?"
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If I use Goldberry or use proliferate to add the last lore counter to a saga like this, should the transformation trigger?
Did it Xmage the other day and it was just sacrificed. Is it a bug?
Also, if I remove a lore counter when the last (regular) saga chapter is resolving, will it still be sacrificed?
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>>96860525
Yes.
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>>96860525
clearer answers
>If I use Goldberry or use proliferate to add the last lore counter to a saga like this, should the transformation trigger?
yes
>Also, if I remove a lore counter when the last (regular) saga chapter is resolving, will it still be sacrificed?
Yes.The saga is sacrificed the moment it resolves the last part of the saga.
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ayulabros... we lost (again)
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>>96860556
>>96860564
Thanks. Knew something was fucky was going on in xmage.
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>>96860290
This is a fun looking deck, what are your general play-lines for it?
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>>96860935
>shrine support

Not what I was expecting but okay
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>>96858118
Was in a similar situation, worst part is when you confront them and they all play the victim or they play with their even more combo heavy deck to demonstrate what is real "cEDH". Now I only play with a fixed group, it's harder to form a table but way more satisfying that play spectator.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96858118
Slowly been happening to my group but we did it to ourselves when we got into an arm’s race just before Covid hit. Ended up with pic as my strongest deck over the past 11 years of playing. Sisay is the main commander over Karametra nowadays but it still shits on their decks enough that they’ll fun for me straight out the gate.
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Is this here just the best five color commander to play for non-commander focused hijinks? I would like to create a mutate deck with everything from ikora
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>meet up with friend over beers
>its been like 6 years
>he got into edh a few years back
>he knows Ive been playing for over 10
>he feels the need to explain every cookie cutter combo he runs like I've never heard of them before no matter how many time I tell him I know how the combo works
I think I know why we stopped hanging out
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Still Dimir, yeah?
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>>96861532
Yeah.
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>>96861532
She looks like she fucks her brother
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REAL PREVIOUS:

>>96857928
>>96857928
>>96857928
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>>96861472
Yes.
>Trivial casting cost
>Effect benefits basically any deck
It's no Golos but it's easily 2nd best after him.
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>>96861722
thanks, I'm going back guys, the future is not for me
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>>96857945
>TQ
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>>96861680
"whoa mama" in a johnny bravo voice
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As a representative of Wizards of the Coast, I would like to thank you for melting down about the bans of Dockside Extortionist, Mana Crypt, and Jeweled Lotus which allowed us enough cover to send death threats to the RC so they would give us control of the format. We have decided to move forward with both the Rhystic Study ban and the hybrid mana change for the health of our stock options. As thanks, here is a sneak peak of an exciting new card you can find exclusively in collector booster packs for next year. It's very exciting for us as it goes in even more decks and has far fewer copies on the market than the now banned Rhystic Study. Thank you for payi- er, playing.
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>Fire Lord Azula
>she was never coronated
>literally the scene being referenced in the art for the card is Zuko interrupting the coronation to challenge her to agni kai so you can't weasel out and say it's a "what if?"
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THE LORE LIKE THIS
YOU ONLY HAD ONE FUCKING JOB
ACCURATELY TRANSLATE THE FUCKING IP TO CARDBOARD
WHY BOTHER IF YOU CAN'T GET IT RIGHT
I HATE UB SO FUCKING MUCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRkI15fIJ1w
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>>96861796
I'll still take it over Rhystic Study.
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>>96861629
This is actually pretty cool. Surprised to see there still some interesting cards hidden in that set.
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>>96861807
At this point, she was already Fire Lord in her head
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>>96861807
self given title
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>>96861807
lmao shut the fuck up avatarslop fag
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>>96857945
>psh
>nothing personal, kid
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>>96861819
>>96861823
Neither of these things are true, I linked the clip for a fucking reason.
Even when Zuko is on scene, she has not been crowned, the guy goes to crown her again and she tells him to wait and that she will fight Zuko to be Fire Lord.

There is no world in which you can say she was ever Fire Lord, even in her own head. She was planning to win it by beating her brother.
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>>96861855
Anon she was already exiling people from the Fire Nation
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>>96861864
???? so??? she's a fucking princess and always was.
She was never Fire Lord in any sense.
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>>96861874
she didn't start doing that until her father declared her Fire Lord anon, she clearly already had it in mind that she was the Fire Lord
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Boss, I'm so tired...
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>>96861881
This is the dumbest fucking argument imaginable and I have no idea why people in /edhg/ more than any other thread on this entire site thinks it's the funniest thing in the world to argue shit they know is unwinnable
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>>96861909
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>>96861893
Remember, sets are planned 2 years in advance so even if AtLA flops as hard as spider-slop, you still have 2 more years of UB to come
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>>96861909
It's the Wizard of Oz princess argument all over again
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>>96861922
Hence
>people in /edhg/ more than any other thread on this entire site
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>>96861807
How can you know this many things about the story yet not understand the underlying character?
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>>96861986
You can watch the clip. At no point did Azula "think" she was fire lord or any shit like that. She literally refuses the crown and says she will fight Zuko for it.

You're not going to get another argument on this. If you try this bait again I'm just going to point you back to this post.
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>>96861986
It's crazy isn't it? He's completely ignoring that Zuko's parallel card with this Azula is also using the title Fire Lord. Whoever won their duel was going to be the fire lord and usher in the future of their nation.
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>>96861986
Magic players have the lowest media literacy and highest rate of autism among any demographic I've ever dealt with. Like I'm pretty sure the only reason WAR got retconned was the fact it made Chandra straight and otherwise people would have lauded it as MtG's best story ever.
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Is that... FIRE!? IN MY MONO-SKELETON DECK!? AIEEEEE SAVE ME SHELDON-SAMA!!!
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>i can just reply to myself to bait you into replying!!
In fact, you cannot.
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>>96861931
Maybe I'll start watching the wmba until this blows over
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>>96857945
>TQ
None. I don't really like those color specific cards. The closest I usually run is this one since it's almost always online.
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>TQ
The blowouts are worth the few games where it's dead
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>Asuka has no red pips on her card
>It's only on flavor text, which doesn't count.
>Produces red mana, mono-black commander
xD Great work, Wizards!
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>>96862219
AIEEEEE MY FORMAT IDENTITY!!!!
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>>96862219
DID YOU JUST ASSUME XIR'S COLORS?! AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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Sex with Firebending Student
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>>96862325
cute and funny
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>>96857945
Is he a good control general?
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Why isn't yawgmoths will on the game changers list in edh?
https://mtg.wiki/page/Game_Changers
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>>96862353
no, but a fun one for your opponents
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>>96862325
This is genuinely be one of the cutest magic card arts we've had in years. I don't think anything comes even remotely close.
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>>96862395
I find it kinda funny, personally.
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are you able to brew up decklists in your head? do you need a list to make sure you can remember 60+ non land cards?
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>>96857945
>TQ:
Pyroblast, REB, and this badboy. When it hits, it hits hard.
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>>96862367
because underworld breach has effectively powercrept it, ala demonic tutor > diabolic tutor; breach lets you cast the same spell over and over which puts it over the edge
this is the real game changer that's slipping past the radar, especially when you think about croprot
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>>96862481
Cards that tutor to the graveyard are underrated in general.
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>>96862494
edh is the format where black should have more game changers than blue, because tutors > draw
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>>96862494
cut this from Disa for literally just winning the game on the spot
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>>96862503
blue has the protection to make what it puts in its hand matter
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>>96862506
>3cmc tutor three creature to hand? we'll never give green that!
>3cmc tutor three creatures to grave? eh let black have it
lol
include unmarked grave too because we all know it's binning thoracle
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>>96862517
well....
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Is there an enchantment with this effect?
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>>96862529
>Magus of the...
>is there an X with this effect
>Magus of the...
Anon....
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>>96862545
tbf wotc has been very careful not to reuse tabernacle design space to create new cards, unlike gaea's cradle
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>>96862545
yeah and anon asked for an enchantment, tabernacle is a land
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You know what would have helped lessen the amount of repeating legendaries? Korra cards.
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The sheer amount of repeating cards here really makes me dread the Hobbit set
Like, a bunch of cards that would be in the Hobbit were already made in LotR

If they had done a Silmarillion set, now that I could have been excited for because of the sheer amount of characters to chose
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>>96862647
making fucking 3x versions of every legendary is basically a parody of modern magic. definition of "this shit should've been a secret lair at best"
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>>96862610
You know what will stop repeating legendaries? Ensemble casts.
>final fantasy
>avengers
>justice league
>genshin impact
>smash bros
>tekken
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>>96862481
>because underworld breach has effectively powercrept it, ala demonic tutor > diabolic tutor; breach lets you cast the same spell over and over which puts it over the edge


Out of curiosity, why is yawgmoth's will restricted in vintage, but not underworld breach?
Is it because of needing to exile other cards to cast from underworld breach?
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>>96862690
die die die die die die die
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>>96862695
Another case of wotc not caring
Breach itself is a 2 of; yawgwill should be unrestricted
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>Somebody's commander dies
>"actually, I won't put it in the command zone"
>counter their reanimate
>spend the rest of the game seething because they only had the one reanimate spell apparently
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Avatar is still UB sloppa, but I will admit that at least it's got more interesting designs than Spiderman.
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>>96862690
You know what will stop repeating legendaries? Not having to be contractually obligated to represent other IP's in a certain fashion.
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>>96861931
If nothing else the seething it is currently causing my friends does make my day
>Heralded LotR UB as a great future for MtG
>2 years later and they refuse to play / scoop as soon as they see any other UB card and/or with anime art but are making an exception for LA because they loved it as kids (personally never got the appeal of it)
>Gives me another opportunity to bait them by referring to it as anime
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>>96862811
>making people angry is the peak of comedy
Grow up.
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>>96862811
>exception for LA
Bro I can't wait for the Los Angeles plane. I'm so sick of the NYC plane.
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>>96862219
>asuka
baka shinji
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>>96862836
Evangelion UB 2027!!
>eva collabs with almost everybody, it's likelier than you think
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>>96862690
>make commander products for them so we still get at two versions of 80 characters
>even have two versions of the SAME CHARACTER in one commander deck
>follow up with scenes boxes so more characters can follow this trend
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>>96862854
I once visited Tokyo and went to a curry restaurant and they were randomly doing an eva colab.
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>>96862871
Hey at least we dont see Cloud at uncommon
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>>96862878
Can't wait to crew Unit-01 as a vehicle
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>>96862871
>>96862881
At least for FF, I think Cloud and Sephiroth were the only characters with 3 or more mechanically unique cards (1 standard, 1 commander card, 1 starter kit). That's probably the upper bound of how many instances of a single character that would feel reasonable to me. LotR went too far with Frodos and Gandalfs and Spiderman went WAY too far in general.
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>>96862777
Yeah this niggas cool af
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>>96862823
Funny, that’s what I told them last time they sperged out when I called it an anime. Nevermind my other point of scooping and not playing against people using other UB cards except LotR and soon LA.
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>>96862765
punishing "I won't put it in the command zone" is peak entertainment
especially if it was in exile
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>>96862898
Frodo had 4 but people only really remember 3 (I keep forgetting the mono white version exists). Gandalf had 5. And then Aragorn (if we include strider) had 6.
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>>96862927
It's AtLA btw (avatar the last airbender)
Seeing LA keeps making me think of los angeles
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>>96862927
>Errrrm akshually he's just as bad as me!
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>>96862881
yeah we got Zidane and Tidus there instead for some reason
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>>96862953
He's probably Br*tish. They called it Legend of Aang over there because "bender" can mean a gay guy
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>>96862964
This. Especially Zidane. Tidus at least got a commander face card.
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>>96862678
>3x
Try 6x that's what avatar is right now
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>>96862966
Nope, Ausfag. Which is kind of close but they called it Last Airbender when it aired when I was a kid. I remember thinking it was alright at the time but never understood why so many people are as attached to it as they are.
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>have to cut 3 cards
>can't get myself to do it
How the hell do you manage to do this?
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>>96862988
Still maintain they should have done FF as blocks or, for the ones that were Commander decks, should have been cut from the main set entirely. There’s a lot of material for more than just one set.
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>>96863102
It can be very hard to do, I won’t lie. Did another revision to my Vivi deck and had to decide whether to cut Murmuring Mystic and Foundations Niv-Mizzet or two spells for Everflowing Chalice and Tormod’s Crypt.
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>>96863102
if it's
>not good on its own
>not part of a game winning combo
>doesn't cover a particular weakness of your colors (ex. withering torment for black)
>not part of the "engine" (ramp, tutor, draw, etc.)
there's a good chance it's worth cutting
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>>96862925
>>96862777
> CMC 6
Game ended 30 minutes ago, old man
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>>96861722
AntiUB fags are so fucking cringe and pathetic lol
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Aside from this card itself, we have
>23 firebend cards
>17 earthbend cards
>15 waterbend cards
>5 airbend cards
Well anons, will this even split be enough to transform Aang successfully?
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>>96861472
real question is when are we getting better town support to actually make the other parts of this card relevant?
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>>96863155
No new town cards for 3 years minimum.
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>>96863154
does casting a card from airbend count? Because presumably you can transform him when you trigger his own firebending but what the fuck do you want to blink out first?
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>>96863155
when we get the FF follow up set in 3-4 years with the minstreling wanderer that also does something retarded in addition to playing with towns
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I hope you didn't put counters on your commander anon
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>>96862690
Wen KOF set? I want make my Boros kween Mai deck
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>>96863179
>ub
Damn
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Oh shid I didn't even see this card. My tribal decks eatin good.
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>>96863179
fuck.....
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>>96863206
this card is dogshit for tribal decks
>4 mana tapped rock lmao
token decks, on the other hand, can make very good use of it
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>>96863148
Ok but why did you reply to me
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>>96860290
version 1


added surge to victory
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>>96863227
Because I didn't notice OPs crybaby attempt to erase UB by intentionally not linking the last thread
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>>96863179
That's actually really good fuck
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>>96863238
lmao you're insecure
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>>96863206
This card blows
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>>96863252
still gonna put it in my Ashcoat deck
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>>96863238
You do realize ub in this case is literally a cartoon for babies, right?
Like one step removed from Arthur and the magic school bus. Don't be surprised when people don't like it.
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>>96863250
>no u
I'm not the cringelord engaging in troontactics passively aggressively fucking up threads because I'm seething about images on trading cards. Again, antiubfags are embarassing manchildren and I'm glad they're experiencing genuine mental distress over it.
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>>96863262
But the UB in the last thread was FF based
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>>96863264
No, you're an insecure manchild
A) because the previous thread linked ITT also has UB in the OP
B) because this thread was made only 3 minutes after the real previous thread was made, and we're just recycling a mistaken bake (you were too busy being an insecure manchild to check the thread creation times and notice this)
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>>96863262
And was the last thread op pic avatar related you disingenuous fag? Would you prefer hyper mature grown up uw pics like Sami instead?
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>>96863266
To be fair it probably had nothing to do with ub, the threads were made at the same time, which is why the chain broke
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>>96863270
Nice false dichotomy you got there
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>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
>projection projection projection
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Here are the bare bones of the casual avatar deck I want to make. My only rule on myself is no non-ATLA creatures. Some spells I can use during combat, flash enablers, etc. How we feeling?
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>just found out Boneface did MTG art
>the same artist who did the cover for my favorite album ever
Wtf lads, you didn't tell me this.

https://youtu.be/PFbvFhiWCCo
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>>96862777
It's acceptable UB Slop
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>>96863288
Fuck off wotc
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>>96863293
fuck off newfag
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>>96862811
imagine scooping for official anime art cards when this is what the normal art direction is instructed as lol
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>>96863286
I was thinking about building Fire Lord Azula but Aang seems like he'd be pretty nice to build around as well.
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>>96863296
>defends ub
>calls someone else a newfag
Holy tourism
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>>96863302
They should've made him look like this
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>>96863148
Unless they are anti-spider-man
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>>96863179
>1 mana imprisoned in the moon that can only hit creatures
well say hello to the obligatory UB card thats gonna be in every blue deck for years since it's so cheap and useful there's no reason not to slot it.

not hitting planeswalkers or lands is a downside but being 3x as cheap is worth it
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>>96863305
I have no plans on being competitive, this basically would be a tier one, tier two at best. Seems like firebending is the focus, just shit out red mana and flash things in
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>>96863322
>there's no reason not to slot it.
Not using slop
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>>96863331
>Not using slop
no mechanical reasons I should say. I expect proxies and alters of the busted UB shit will become increasingly common for people who want their decks to at least resemble Magic
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>>96863322
But these aren't the same things at all?
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>>96862506
>cut this from Disa for literally just winning the game on the spot
Which version of the art do you like the best?
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>>96863179
>>96863205
>>96863240
>>96863322
>>96863331
>>96863338
I think we'll see a universes within reprint of Honest work. The flavor isn't inherently tied to avatar at all.

It's very similar to already existing cards:
https://scryfall.com/card/snc/66/witness-protection
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>>96863342
mono blue single target enchantment removal that turns a creature into a colorless mana generator is a pretty specific niche. imprisoned in the moon can hit lands and planeswalkers (good) but its 3 mana (bad) while honest work is 1 mana (good) and can easily let you kill the creature once transformed (good) but can't hit lands or planeswalkers (bad)
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>>96863349
I just think it's nice that it removes all counters from the creature
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>>96863352
What is preventing me from just blocking and having the creature die and then just recast them?

Cause I can't do that with imprison.
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>>96861038
New shrines, AND shrine support.

These niggas are trying to lure me into standard with a shrine.dek, but I will resist.
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>>96863354
it also taps the creature so the turn you cast it they can't use the 1/1 as a chump blocker. just all around a pretty good card
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>>96862777
I find this wording confusing some how. Do you not lose the mana between steps and phases still? If you do why does it change color?
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>>96863302
He's so ugly. I'm always impressed by it. I'm sorry they removed him from the gamechanger list so people can shove him into their bracket three decks and I'll have to look at him.
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>>96863360
>and then just recast them?
the creature goes to your graveyard when it dies, for one. If you're playing reanimate yeah sure but that applies to anything in the graveyard.
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>>96860935
>he bi
What did they mean by this?
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>>96863360
>What is preventing me from just blocking
I wont attack you
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>>96863373
fool proof
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>>96863373
FUCKING DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>96863238
You are a retard. Stop making us look bad.
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>>96861807
Anon. That's cause "Azula, but she's not yet fire lord because her brother interrupted her and her egotistical ass decided to try and make an example of him but she jobs like a bitch and he becomes Fire Lord" wouldn't fit on the fucking card.
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>>96863389
nta but surely they could've come up with SOMETHING
I never watched avatar because I'm not pushing 30, but surely they coulda called her "Crown Princess Azula" or whatever
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>>96863406
>>96863389
I think they called her Fire Lord because the fight was over who'd actually be the Fire Lord in the end, if Azula won she'd just finish the ritual
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>>96863419
okay but if you had two guys fighting over who gets to be God of all Creation and one of the guys lost you wouldn't call his card "Bob, God of all Creation" because he fucking lost and never got to be God of all Creation
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>>96863426
The card isn't the moment she lost though, it's the start of the fight between her and Zuko where both are fighting for the title of Fire Lord it's more like two Kahns fighting over who gets to be the next leader
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>>96861807
>Azula, Fire Lord to-be
I fixed it
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>>96863435
She still loses canonically and never was at any point the fire lord
You wouldn't name the card "Great Khan Gerald" if Khan Gerald lost the fight in the lore and never got to be Great Khan

>>96863437
Yeah ig that works
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How many dollary-doos will this be worth?
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>>96863442
I know she loses but she was given the title by her father, if they printed a card called Phoenix King Ozai would you be upset since he failed to take over the world?
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>>96863389
She doesnt job like a bitch, she nearly takes them 2v1 and only blows it because she doesn't know Zuko can redirect lightning
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>>96863363
Reading the card explains the card.
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>>96863465
>She doesnt job like a bitch, she nearly takes them 2v1 and only blows it because she doesn't know Zuko can redirect lightning
Weird fan fiction
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>>96863460
>>96862777
Turns out they did print one
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>>96863460
I have no idea what a phoenix king is since, like I said, I never watched the show
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>>96863488
Phoenix King is the self given title Ozai gives himself after declaring Azula is the next Fire Lord. He planned to take over the world while a comet that gave fire benders more power passed the earth it's the same comet that the fire benders used 100 years ago to destroy the air benders

Tl;dr: Ozai called himself that when he tried taking over the world
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>>96861807
Im gonna masturbate to her again.
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>>96863465
If I have to explain hyperbole to another fucking mouthbreather in this SPECIFIC thread, I'm going to have a fucking brain bleed.
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>>96863509
Hyperbol deez nuts, faggot
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>>96861807
>expecting wotc to give a single shit about stories after abandoning their own IP
el
mao
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>>96863322
Anon there's already 2 cards that do this for 1 mana.
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>>96863537
bait
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>>96863540
How?
Both cards (Witness Protection and Unable to Scream) take all the text off a creature and reduce its P/T to something meaningless. Honest Work isn't special in this regard and is actually arguably worse because it gives the creature a passable ability.
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>>96863450
3-4
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>>96863547
I think Honest Work is alright since it forces the creature to tap, and removes all counters on the creature as well
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I don't let anyone play against me if they use any rules caused by WotC's influence.
Bracket discussion? No thanks. I'll stick with the 10 system.
Hybrid cards outside your color identity? No thanks, I'm leaving.
Commander isn't a creature? I'm leaving.
Companion? I'm leaving.
Commander with a death trigger? No thanks.
Made mana outside your color identity? Nope.
Returned your commander to the CZ after I used Oblation on it? I'm out.
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>>96863577
based beyond belief
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>>96863570
It taps the creature but it doesn't stay tapped. You get one turn to swing in but no more.
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>>96863547
oh whoops meant to reply to >>96863322 itself
the only version arguably worth running more than moon is the split second one
people just block with the 1/1 or sac it and are up and running again
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>>96863577
>his commander isnt a legendary elder dragon
ngmi
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>>96863583
One of them gives off a fruity energy and I can't tell why...
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>>96863577
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>>96863583
unironically though, playing cheap commanders is gay
unless it's kami of the crescent moon or something funky like that
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>>96861532
>During your turn

What could've been a great card.
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>>96863577
based magic 1 enjoyer
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White is the most honest color in magic
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>>96863663
"Honest" is a meme and only used by retards to try and delegitimize things they don't like.
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>>96863692
truth nuke
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Honestly i always wanted to make a deck where i hit people with land creatures so i might as well do it with one of these earthbending legends
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>>96863704
Toph and throw in the manlands that already exist, include Mono Green Toph for bonus power
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>>96863663
only black can be honest enough to say it's evil
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>>96863726
That was proven wrong last thread
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>>96862325
Tranime incel cartoon pedo card, you need to be on a sex offender registry if you like this card.
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>>96863781
holy buzzword soup
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>>96863781
Yeah it’s creepy as fuck, loli lovers are 100% pedos and the people pushing this shit need to be executed.
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>>96863781
>IS THAT A LITTLE GIRL IN MY CHILDREN'S CARD GAME?! AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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>>96863799
>but how does this effect you personally!!!!!
Holy tranime incel loli pedo cope!
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>>96863799
>Pedo already doing this again
Yeah, the post saying "sex with" and then indicating the child REALLY made it clear it was JUST "oh look a little girl in a card game"
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>>96863803
it's affect you ESL illiterate
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>>96863813
>errrrm actually you didn’t use the correct word and your spelling is Le wrong.
Okay, and you’re still a creepy little incel tranime pedo
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>>96863577
Can’t get any more based than this.
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>>96862325
She looks like she attends an all-girl ninja school and is very curious about boys
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>buzzwords
>melties
>~3AM EST
kekw print more anime kids wotc
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When using picrel, can you make a copy of your own commander?
The main reason I ask is because to my knowledge, this card does not assume the name of the copied creature, and thus would not counter as a second. But I was informed the last time I utilized this in this way, that it wasn't possible because the act of "Copying" the creature would also copy the name even if its not specifically stated. I pushed back stating I've seen other cards that specifically reference the name when performing effects like this, but as someone who has only recently started playing again I did not want to push too much as the other person is someone I consider more knowledgeable just due to the length of time they've been playing the game compared to me.
I mostly want to know for future reference when using this card.
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>>96863826
Copies copy the name
The exceptions to my knowledge, all work in the opposite way, stating something along the lines of "you may have this creature etc... except its name is [whatever]."
In any case, you can have it come into play as a copy of your commander, yes, but it copies all attributes of the card, including name and type line, so one of them will have to be sacrificed to the legendary rule.
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>>96863826
Yes you can target your commander but then the Legends rule will apply.
If it doesn't say "except its name is X", like in the case of Sakashima the Imposter, it will copy the name, triggering the Legends rule.
Exceptions like if it says "except it isn't legendary" in the case cards like of Spark Double, will let you have two copies with the same name.
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>>96863841
>in the case cards like of Spark Double
Meant "in the case OF cards like Spark Double." Fuck I must have had a stroke writing that.
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>>96862811
>>Heralded LotR UB as a great future for MtG
I could not be friends with people who think LotR MtG is good. Not because of it being UB, but because of the pure disrespect it has for the world and lore of LotR.
>Avatar
I also loved it as a kid, and even as an adult. Genuinely a fantastic show, and one of my favorites. Still not an anime though.
>>96863302
A really fun card, shame about the artwork.
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>>96863853
>pure disrespect it has for the world and lore of LotR
Such as? It's pretty lore accurate and does a great job showcasing the important characters.
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>hehe whatever just fuck my shit up at this point. burn it all down
based accelerationist
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>>96863892
there's nothing based about a blue haired californian
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>>96863892
>blue haired buck tooth chink californian
>based
buy an ad
>>96863870
>can't even substantiate his own claim
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>>96863907
>>96863914
he is the average consoomer and is running the show so
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>>96862529
>>96862545
I run it in baral
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Anons who support the hybrid mana change, are you any flavor of homosexual? Be honest, I'm curious
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>>96861472
Wonder what Yoshi P would look like in a Jace cosplay
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>>96863892
peak soillennial cynical cope
>le nothing matters anymore... and that's FUNNY
the professor kinda does this too
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>>96864005
this. I'm so tired of the ironypoisoned retards pretending everything being bad is acceptable.
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>>96863892
Is this ""dude"" in the middle of a stroke right now?
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>>96863937
>he is the average consoomer
based on...?
>running the show
running what show?
Do you even think before you type?
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>>96864024
>>he is the average consoomer
>based on...?
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>>96864029
You're not really doing yourself any favors. I feel like magic's average consumer isn't chinese, multi-hair color, or bucktooth.
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>>96864029
>>96863892
>haha just destroy stuff i like!!!
Typical leftoid.
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>>96864064
>no dude you have to let the thing you love die a slow, painful death instead of pulling the plug
the sooner it dies, the sooner we can rebuild
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>>96864133
>just dont fight it
defeatist, marxist autism.
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>>96863704
Play the original in Universe earth bender that doesn't rely on the literal easiest color for bonus points
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>>96864133
>the sooner it dies, the sooner we can rebuild
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>>96864029
>guy with merchandise littered funko pop background and Captain America plastic shield in frame, with Pokémon and various other Anime tattoos is a consoomer mistaking brands for personality
color me blue haired onions faced
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>>96864133
Did you know you wouldn't have to rebuild things if you didn't drop them at the slightest inconvenience and internalized that shit you like is worth caring about?
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>>96864029
>this dude is 2 cool 2 say the shows catchphrase/title with the other hosts when starting the game
still like him, he is the only content creator who appears 100% saltproof, he can take a good rectangle dicking
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>>96864143
wow look where your epic fighting has gotten the state of the game thus far, surely your method is working!
>>96864166
why did you send me a picture of yourself?
>>96864180
>slightest inconvenience
that might've been true five years ago when they printed the walking dead SL
people didn't gatekeep hard enough back then
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>>96864190
>JUST GIVE UP STOP NOT GIVING UP
Go play something else, then. Don't bother us with your defeatist autism.
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>>96862325
i like the one with the foot
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>>96863704
It can be fun. Used to use this Nissa to similar effect and charging up lands to hit people was fun, if risky. The new Toph and earth bending in general removes most of that risk now so it's a lot more viable.
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>>96864195
why on earth would I do that? I'll just keep playing UB slop and beg MaRo to print more
oink oink!
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>>96864211
Genuine mental illness, I will pray for you.
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>>96863577
You know what's funny about this post? If I met this man IRL, the only thing I would mock him for, other than his baby hate of UB, is the fact that his man is STILL crying about the tuck change! Get over it, no one wants to run 10+ tutors and protection spells just because you have a fetish for people not having access to their Commanders. If you really wanted to do that, in a more permanent way, there are at least 10+ combos that WILL permanently rid someone of their Commander. Tucking made decks far more samey AND less reliant on their Commander, which loses the whole fucking point of the format.
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>>96862529
i recently checked out the magus cycle, and man magus of the mind seems more fun in casual play than mind's desire, you only need to pay 1 mana during your storm turn if you untap with him. If they let you untap with him and you storm off they cant complain about your bullshit 15minute turn. Also mind's desire will have that autist at the table insist you shuffle every time for every copy.
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>>96862325
Yes, more anime cards
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Why doesn't wotc HR fire this tranny?
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>>96863450
Under a dollar within 4 months, it isn't very good.
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>double sleeve cards
>compress them and put them in deck box
>really cram them in with some tokens to ensure a tight fit
>wait a while
>take them out for a game
>they start reinflating before my eyes
How the fuck do you get them to stay flat?
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>>96858118

Invite the other two to play with you, rinse, repeat.
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>>96864190
gatekeeping doesn't work in the age of the internet. the only way is to isolate yourself with a group of like minded individuals and never interact with new releases, effectively leaving
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>>96864570
Because they support this kind of behavior.
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>>96864159
The reason earthbending doesn't suck compared to most similar mechanics is that if it dies or is exiled you get it back as a regular land which also triggers landfall abilities when it re enters.
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>>96864029
>>96863892
>pro UB
>room full of marvel junk
Every fucking time
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>>96864029
You ever think about what happens to all that crap when someone dies?
Assuming he dies before his parents, will they sell it online or will it just go to landfill? And assuming he makes it to old age, does he even have kids? Will he ever? Who will be forced to clear out a room of literal trash manchild toys from 40 years before his death?
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>>96864133
Here's a thought, it doesn't have to die and we can just reverse course now. If it weren't for retards like you disguising shilling as apathy.

>well the barbarians are at the gate, might as well just let them in and get it over with I guess. Oh me? No I'm tooootally not a barbarian guys I care a lot about Rome I just think we should surrender haha
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>>96864853
Never heard of estate sales?
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he cute
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>>96864918
>retards at WotC didn’t make it a hard once per turn, thinking only lands being able to attack would be sufficient
So you play a card that makes your creatures into Forests and just keep attacking huh?
Do designers even play the fucking game?
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>>96862878
>cheap mystery meat sausages with diarrhea and tapeworms
it's always impressive how big the duality gap in japan is between making food look cute and making it look like indian streetshit.
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>>96864977
How is that problem?
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>>96865009
Infinite combats are generally avoided in card design. I can’t think of a 2 card infinite combat combo of the top of my head, they’re usually 3 or more
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>>96863287
>getting read to shit all over you for liking dogshit music before I even clicked the link
>queens of the stone age
sorry, proceed
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>>96865018
It's a big mana, 100% telegraphed, combo with Ashaya that requires you to keep connecting with Bumi without him dying to execute. It's a jank combo that would be 100% fine even in casual tables. It's really not a problem at all.
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>>96863302
>sidecut
>SJW hair colors
>double chin
>goiter neck
>crooked teeth
he's missing a wheelchair, a hint that he's a tranny, and shit-colored skin. could have been perfect.
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>>96865018
anon, one of the oldest "extra combat cards" first printed in fucking ONSLAUGHT has a ONE card combo for infinite combat phases.
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>>96865037
>I can just make up my own version of what you said and argue against that!
Point to where I said PROBLEM. Because I didn’t. I said that it’s bad design. It is something that has been avoided for all of Magic’s history and it’s clear the designers just didn’t think about it. It not being the most busted OP bullshit you can do is fucking irrelevant
Work on your reading comprehension
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>>96865048
speaking of combos
all you need is 1 more instance of firebending and you got infinite combats
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got me iron spider stark upgrade mary jane alt art at the london comiccon... just asked the guy if i could have it after the con finished while the hasbro stand packed up.
Now i need to figure out a decklist. was thinking of a myr swarm deck but wasnt too sure.
anyone here built iron spider stark upgrade and got cool tech and tips?
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>>96865065
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>>96865048
>5 mana every time
In what world is that a 1 card combo? Where did you get infinite mana from you fucking retard?
>inb4 firebending lets me break it now!!!!
It doesn’t, read the last sentence of the card you posted
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>>96865065
Firebending Student goes infinite with AA.
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>>96865075
2 card combo with stuff like reaver cleaver
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>>96865083
no it doesn't, you specifically need something to keep unspent mana like >>96865073
aggravated assault can only be activated as a sorcery and firebending mana goes away after combat phase they were at least smart enough to realize this
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>>96865086
>it’s a 1 card combo
>actually no it isn’t
Thank you.
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>>96865072
Yeah here’s a tip, put it in the garbage you UBpiggy
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>>96865065
Speaking of firebending
>Forgestoker Dragon
>Atarka Pummeler
>Dragon Whisperer
>Xantcha
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>>96865093
(I'm a different anon, the one who said it was a 1 card combo was stupid)
but it's still a pretty powerful combo piece that lets you turn anything that generates mana through combat into an infinite
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>>96863309
Cyberpunk ub when?
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Is Avatar the last airbender even a relevant IP and does it even have some many fans? Who is this set even for, I don't know anyone who watched this show including me. Even the Spider Man UB has more meaning to me.
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>>96865122
it's prime nostalgia bait among millenials who are spending by far the most on MtG
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>>96865105
really firebending is fun red mechanic I am going to get increasingly pissed off is tied to a single UB set over the coming years
unless they make an evergreen alternative
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>>96865122
>the zoomies are now so young they didn’t even watch Avatar
Fuck man, were you like 3 when it first aired or something? They reran it on Nickelodeon for years so you’d have to be so fucking young to have not been in the target demographic when it was rerunning
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>>96865122
>Who is this set even for,
30-something millenials with disposable income who were kids when ATLA aired in 2005 and who have been carrying a torch for it ever since despite it getting nothing in the last decade+ besides extremely shitty comics and a divisive sequel that faced cancellation each season and threw out 95% of the worldbuilding/setting/lore to focus on steampunk roaring 20's not-newyork

so it's a pretty limited demographic all things considered, but they're probably disproportionately represented among MTG players for the same reason like 0.2% of the population is trans yet LGS are full of them
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>>96865175
But anon youre forgetting that there is a new season coming in 2027 that will canonise that shitty steampunk sequel and TOTALLY WILL NOT make a whole plot point of the world blaming Korra for a catastrophe that will be revealed to not actually be her fault
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>>96865192
>that will canonize
It's already canon, anon.
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>doesn't work with Changelings
Sad
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>>96865225
how does mutate interact with this?
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>>96865091
>firebending mana goes away after combat phase
Except the card says it doesn't.
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>>96864977
There are plenty of extra combat cards that don't have hoops to jump through. If you have Bumi and Ashaya on the board with a bunch of creatures congrats on your bracket 2 deck getting to do its thing.
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>>96865309
firebending student by itself isn't an infinite which is what I was referring to
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>>96862325
I don't regret this post one bit
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>don't know anything about avatar
>never watched the show
>never read the comics
>get to enjoy it
>can pretend it's a new plane with cartoon art
Pretty comfy
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>>96865324
I think this is what the kids call "cope"
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I'm glad UB is actually upsetting some of you.
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>>96865338
why?
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>>96865317
Okay anon, you tell us how you would go about infinite combats without jumping through hoops.
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>>96865341
Because he’s very emotionally insecure and needs others to be unhappy to feel better about his own life
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>>96865331
I mean honestly as far as cope goes it's pretty decent. It feels more fantasy than EOE/DFT.
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>>96860564
>Yes.The saga is sacrificed the moment it resolves the last part of the saga.
Wrong. A saga is sacrificed when it has as many (or more) lore counters as it's largest chapter number, so long as it has no chapter abilities on the stack. This means you can trigger the final chapter ability, remove a lore counter before it resolves, and keep the saga.

https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Saga
>714.4. If the number of lore counters on a Saga permanent is greater than or equal to its final chapter number, and it isn’t the source of a chapter ability that has triggered but not yet left the stack, that Saga’s controller sacrifices it. This state-based action doesn’t use the stack.
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2 mana removal+trigger damage effects+ritual and possibly pay for itself and then some+float mana until end of turn seems pretty good. especially since there's been so much power creep in terms of prowess/spell synergy cards that can easily balloon to ridiculous sizes. a Plotted slickshot giving you 10+ mana is totally doable with this
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>>96865347
Aggravated Assault and that one dragon that makes big mana when you attack
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>>96865065
You go infinite with Roku and AA
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>>96865225
that art looks unfinished af
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>>96865347
>Okay anon, you tell us how you would go about infinite combats without jumping through hoops.
with avatar all you need is hellkite charger+at least seven firebending to go infinite. they were pretty generous with firebending with lots of cards having 2 to 4 and sozin's being all creatures get 5 so it's not gonna be hard to pull off.

hellkite is nice since it doesn't even require any of the "unspent mana doesn't empty" effects since they're both attack triggers
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>think about it for a second
>hey I could probably make necrotic ooze work in just mono black
>check edh rec to make sure its not already a super popular thing
>50% of K'rrik decks
>way more efficient combos than I was looking at
I gotta stop checking edhrec and just build stuff I want to
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>>96865364
You lose that mana between phases, Agg Ass is sorcery speed. Try again.
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>>96865347
I like Cursed Mirror + Combat Celebrant + Mishra
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Did they show any Mai cards yet?
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>>96865402
How is having Hellkite and Firebending 7 on board not jumping through hoops?
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>>96865409
Reread Savage Ventmaw.
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>>96865362
We did it boys, we found a way to break the card that raped Standard for a year.
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really you just need AA and pic related
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>>96865413
Hoops
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>>96865426
uh oh the retard is back.
from this point onwards just know most replies to any of your posts will be in bad faith
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>>96865402
Okay Hellkite isn’t indestructible so I just block that one.
>inb4 how would you make Bumi indestructible
With one of the best 2 mana Green instants in the game, Heroic Intervention
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>>96865417
I mean any 2 card combo is gonna be at least 2 hoops.
The fact that Hellkite doesn't need a SPECIFIC 2nd card to combo with, just Firebending in general, makes it a lot more flexible. If you just run every Firebending card (and probably have a Firebending Commander) you're virtually guaranteed to have enough sources of Firebending to work with it by the time you play hellkite. And dragons are one of the easier creatures to tutor for or cheat into play as red.

A specific 2 card combo is much lower probability of drawing in a game than a card that can "combo" with any of a dozen possible options. It's the same reason altars/artistocrats are reliable when run with a bunch of different sac and drain outlets, you don't need any specific one in particular, just one of each.
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>>96865434
Sounds like you’re mad you couldn’t live up to your own standard
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>>96863803
>effect
getting this wrong is the surest sign of low iq
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>>96865425
aww fuck I was thinking of building him as my first mono red commander but now he is ruined
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>>96865436
>heroic intervention
if you're doing infinite combat phases to win you might as well go all out with heroic intervention. either pop off and go infinite and win or lose and instantly scoop. also gives you an turn to draw and untap mana to set up the combo.

then again I'm a shameless shill for chance for glory and boros in general
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>>96865425
Is there anything that distinguishes this from Firebending 6?
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>>96865473
note that it's whenever A player attacks, not YOU attack.
in a 4-person pod this is giving 24 mana a turn if everyone swings
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>>96865473
firebending is when that creature attacks, avatar roku triggers when any player attacks with any number of creatures
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>>96865479
>>96865483
I predict Roku Goad decks driving people into a frenzy even if they end up not being that good. nothing makes bad players madder than being "forced" to do something (even if goading is often worse than direct removal, Fights, etc) and cheating mana
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>>96865479
>>96865483
I'm dumb I caught this the first time I saw the card then mentally filtered it out.
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>>96865169
It completely passed my radar just like most of the IPs there are UBs for, I was watching Samurai Jack instead if that could even be comparable.
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>>96865512
samurai jack secret lair would be cool
but what's more likely is teen titans go!
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>>96865169
I never watched avatar
t. 24
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>>96865520
THE SCHEDULE OF SHAME
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>>96865520
>>96865526
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>>96863853
>Still not an anime though
he didn't remember the beach episode
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>>96865341
Because it's one of the stupidest things imaginable to invest any emotional energy into and the only way the company would ever stop it is if all its detractors stopped buying and playing the game which antiub types also refuse to do. It's classic lolcow behavior and I like laughing at stupid people who cry about stupid shit, doubly so if they actually have the power to solve their problems but refuse to do so. To me antiub malding is no different than 600lb lifers sobbing it's water weight they can't lose because they can't stopping eating 12 donuts and 4 litres of soda every day or homeless fet heads getting forcibly bottomed by other meth zombies in their street tents and crying about the injustices of society are keeping them down while millions of other people who are struggling are able to keep the needle out of their arm.

TLDR lolcows are extremely funny and antiub manchildren are the biggest lolcows in nerd hobbies atm
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>>96865341
He's an insecure manchild.
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.>>96865169
34
also never seen it, I was too old for that shit when it was on Nick. The demo is much tighter than you think.
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>>96865169
I am 35 and I never watched it. I was too busy doing drugs and getting pussy.
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>>96865532
>mfw they aren't airing LEGO Ninjago
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>>96863937
>Didn't consume LotR
>Average consoomer
Pick one.
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>if you aren't emotionally invested in the art on game pieces in a corporate card game you're an insincere manchild!!!111!
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>>96865169
37 and never watched it. It looked like kiddy melodrama to me from the few snippets I saw.
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>>96865324
Best mindset in the thread
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>>96865324
Absolute best attitude about UB. I love to see it.
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>this set needs more pushed bullshit
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>>96865660
so this will be one of the most expensive cards in the set right?
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>>96865551
>>96865545
I got my girlfriend at the time into it honestly
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>>96865660
Golbez staple
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>>96865668
No, it's only good in commander and only really good in decks with lots of topdeck manipulation or scry/surveil tribal like Elminster or Golbez
But it's a decent like, $1-2 card
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>>96865636
>>96865659
idk seems weak to me, creating a false reality for yourself is pretty cringe.
especially when some of the cards are literally low res screenshots of a kids cartoon
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>>96865683
>guy who will stand up and leave if someone plays a UB card complaining about a false reality
nigga stfu
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>>96865681
>>96865660
it's 100% going in my Golbez deck
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>>96865690
yep, just as predicted.
bad faith right out the gate. what a clown.
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>>96865698
>>96865677
trip back on
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>>96865683
>creating a false reality
Not really, if he knows absolutely nothing about Avatar. It's easy to see why someone unfamiliar might think or pretend it a new, cartoony plane. It definitely is more Magic than fucking EoE or that stupid race set.
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>>96865702
ok
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>>96865708
Based tripfag.
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>>96865703
He knows its avatar though, anon. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube.
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>>96865708
holy shit i haven't laughed that hard in a while
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>>96865708
damn swordfag spittin today
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>>96865720
>food analogy
wewland
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>>96865735
kek
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>>96865708
Based
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>>96865660
Whelp, now I have to build Eligeth. What's the best partner?
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>>96865837
Kydele
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>woke up today
>realized my wife was fat
>she had never been skinny but now is definitely fat
General for this feel?
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>>96865660
I approve.
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>>96865869
Buy more sloppa oink oink
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>>96865425
>until the end of combat
READ MOTHERFUCKER
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>>96865984
You first retard
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>>96865243
Mutate becomes one or the other of the mutated creatures type wise, afaik
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>>96866016
>until end of combat
you mean I keep the mana in my 2nd main phase to activate the sorcery speed ability of aggravated assault? is that how it works?
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>>96865243
stats, types, p/t, name etc. from the top plus every text box from the bottom so no, zero synergy.
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>>96866033
READ NIGGA READ
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>>96866033
you still lose it on phase change, it says nothing about phases only steps
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So do we get any strong/op commanders this set or not?
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>>96866050
>you still lose it on phase change
then why mention AA (aggravated assault)?
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>>96866033
only works with Great Train Heist and savage beating
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I'm building pic related and am looking for suggestions to avoid decking myself. Right now the options are
>wizard tribal/prowess sub-theme, finish opponents with combat damage
>combining discard effects with cards like Feldon's cane to recycle my graveyard
>give up and just go for labman every game

Curious if anyone else has ideas.
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>>96865416
Where are her boobs
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>>96866101
>avoid decking myself.
but why would you?
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>>96866066
I didn't, other people did, people who should read that card again

Ozai is Firebending 4 so it's not a 2 card combo with AA, Roku is 6 mana so it's not a 2 card combo with >>96865402

they actually thought it through for once
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>>96866101
Just give up and go for Laboratory Maniac
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>>96866114
>didn't read the whole post
wew
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>>96865660
>one shi T
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>>96866125
that's just me being cheeky and telling you to just embrace the labman lol
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>>96866101
May I interest you in a fun but shitty card
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>>96866137
>AAAAIIIEEEE IS THAT A LICH EFFECT IN BLUE?! MY COLOR PIEEEEEE
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>>96866101
Literally any red burn spell with rituals turning those cards into mana. Your opponents lose the game before the draw trigger resolves.
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>>96866101
Good on you for trying to make your more interesting, I would go with the feldon's cane effects.
Add a psychosis crawler and then it wont matter so much. there are also effects like Sphinx's Tutelage that might be worth looking into.
Arjun decks use a lot of those, maybe look into those lists. you probably wont get much from looking at other niv lists. they will always be the most boring combo shit out there
>>96866114
exemplified by this numb skull right here
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>>96866148
Go away you tiresome child.
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are flash enablers in her deck the token doublers of token decks as in cute but shit?
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>>96866137
I like this, thanks.
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>>96866182
Probably. You're likely better off just using combat tricks, but I'd respect it.
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>>96866182
Yes. You can turn pic related into a combat trick with flash enablers but youre probably just better off with instant and forgoing flash enablers.
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>>96866137
You may.
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>>96865708
Zamn its over for him now
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>>96863450
Rules question:
Can a creature have multiple instances of firebending?
If it has firebending X based on its power and then you play Sozins Comet, what is the result?
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>>96866276
Firebending X, and also Firebending 5
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>>96866276
it "stacks" just like annihilator, they're still separate triggers so if you stifle it'll only hit one but you get the full benefit of both
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honest opinions on this?
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>>96866311
Terrible with terrible art
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>>96866337
Ok Baron Greywater
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>>96866311
Cowboy Hats Bad
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>>96866311
>yet another character with dark complexion and ambiguous gender
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>>96866311
boring, ugly and far too expensive for what it does
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>>96866311
Don't even bother asking here. The second they see a cowboy hat, they're just going to say it bad, as seen here: >>96866337 >>96866348 >>96866360
At least this post makes a half assed attempt to tell you why you shouldn't use it, other that "I hate cowboy hats and niggers".
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>>96866311
Doesn't seem worth running over just a regular ritual to me.
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I hate cowboy hats and niggers
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>>96866380
I meant this post here >>96866363. And yeah, it is too expensive. If it was 1 less mana, it would be fine but 4 mana is too much for this effect.
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>>96866380
I don't care about cowboy hats, the art is still bad and the card is legitimately awful.
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Reminder that OTJ would've been universally beloved if they hadn't redditified the setting
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>>96866409
I don't think they could have made a western themed set without it being corny.
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>>96866409
They're always going to have to flanderize to some extent when doing a hat set. I think the marvel quipfest style that is so popular these days really fucks them over. It both takes itself too seriously but the lighthearted and silly bits also aren't silly enough.
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>>96866409
>BLB: bad mechanics, good setting/art
Widely praised
>OTJ: good mechanics, bad setting/art
Widely hated

Funny how it works
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>>96866409
did people dislike OTJ? The three girls at my LGS literally bought so many packs they ran out
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Rest of that teatime scene got spoiled.
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>>96866520
oh so this is the dedicated slop printed straight for edh by wotc; ""rewarding"" you for paying more commander tax on subsequent casts
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>>96866444
Westerns are quite capable of being serious, but what they made was a sort of theme park version of a western setting. The magic laser pistols, the super-cacti as trees, the weird flying trains, etc. For it to work I think they would've needed to be a bit more subtle with the magic, but instead they made it extremely cartoony. Very similar in my view to the way D&D has become increasingly magenta, and every party is some bizarre assortment of increasingly outlandish races.

>>96866476
Yeah, I'd agree with that. As with so many things, it's Joss Whedon's fault in the end.
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>>96866554
For neatness' sake I'll also post the one that was already known.
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>>96866548
I like this one
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>>96866547
Welcome to over a decade ago
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>>96866531
>>96866538
Wtf these characters arent black or gay. Im so disappointed
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>>96866568
It's not even that it was too outlandish, it's that it just... Didn't do anything with being a western beyond vague aesthetics. There's indigenous-coded people but they're just dressed like cowboys too, there's literally one fucking actual horse in the set, there's no saloons, no gambling, the aesthetic of the not-guns makes the crackshot-like things feel less slick... Basically High Noon is the only card that feels like a western card.
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>>96866580
>avatar
>not gay
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>>96866602
unironically less homosexual than mtg
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>>96866585
I'd argue final showdown too, but yeah that's pretty much what I meant by "theme park version of a western". It feels all very artificial. I legit thought this girl was a star wars proxy when I first saw her.
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Firebending seems pretty fun honestly, you can build it in some different ways. Activated abilitiy tribal, flash tribal, or just cast a bunch of instants.
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>>96866631
I get that it's ostensibly a villains set first, western second, but the villains stuff ALSO doesn't really come across because it's all muddled by them dressing up.
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>>96866631
the "can't believe it's not a gun" things still look idiotic
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>>96866631
hmm I like that card. I think I'm going to build it. Thanks!
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>>96866643
shame it's a UB mechanic
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>>96866101
How to avoid decking yourself:
>discard outlet on board (ghostly pilferer is the preferred one iirc)
>shuffle titan in the deck (the kozilek that draws you cards on cast is the preferred one)
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>>96866531
Well that's busted
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>>96866650
Was it a villains set? Was there anyone else but Akul as the villain from it? And that guy barely got any expression in card form beyond his own card.
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>>96866568
>Very similar in my view to the way D&D has become increasingly magenta, and every party is some bizarre assortment of increasingly outlandish races.

This hits deep. There aren't even any tieflings or dragonkin in BG1 and yet we find 4 in the climax of that game on a card. The tiefling throwing a tomato at Saerevok is unintentionally a poignant distillation of this shift.
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>>96866650
It's another thing that makes it feel like a theme park and not a proper setting. All these guys we already know in themed costumes starring in a western heist movie for some reason.

>>96866673
It's just burn, but knock yourself out.
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>>96866750
I like burn.
The more I play edh the more I realize it's fun to play very basic magic.
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>>96866730
Yeah it has Geralf and Gisa and Vraska and Eriette and shit in it
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>>96866631
is it just me or are these names getting harder and harder to remember?
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>>96865425
>free 6/6 with targeted firebreathing
Downside? I can feel it coming.
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>>96866765
one of these is not like the others.
its rakdos. rakdos isnt like the others. he's actually good. kinda insane to be honest
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>>96866765
Oh yeah, I forgot about Eriette. I guess I saw most of these guys as just bumblers or whatever. Not so much villains. May have just been the goofiness of the set that did that. Most of the bad stuff people were doing on the various instants and sorceries where they could have shown people being villains instead had nameless dudes doing stuff.
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>>96866783
ya the Rakdos arty goes hard ngl. Like Doom vibes
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>>96866585
>There's indigenous-coded people
You mean injuns?
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>>96866548
Lmao I'm gonna steal so many one rings with this
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>>96866895
I like the way you stink
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>>96866348
>>96866380
>>96866393
Why are cowboy hats considered bad?
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>>96866547
oh so this is the dedicated slop printed straight for edh by wotc; "rewarding" you for playing the format
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>>96866917
Purely aesthetic reasons. I just think they look goofy and out of place.
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>>96866945
ur-dragon wasn't printed in standard
and yes he's the definition of WUBRG slop and a mistake
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are you guys still gargling sw*rdbros ball sack over the color changes?
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>>96866960
that is exactly the point
we have been fed and eating "slop" since forever, but this time you don't like the slop
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>he plays good cards
unimaginably unhinged faggotry
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>>96866968
slop?
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>>96866960
>>ur-dragon wasn't printed in standard
Neither is that specific Toph card, TLE is the shit that's going directly to eternal formats.
Here's your standard legal made for commander slop though.
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>>96867060
GC in 2026 100%
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>>96866631
if the hybrid change goes though, I'm putting godhead of awe in her deck
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>>96867067
he should stay banned, absolute ass design being the commander commander for anything. You can easily build him in any colours because of his unrestricted casting cost and then fetches your best land
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>>96867068
I really really really like this image
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>>96867068
now that ATLA has legitimized putting literal close ups of faces as cards (very lazy even for UB) i'm sure some autist will proxy the entire wotc team for shits and giggles
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I feel like it's more acceptable (based purely on player reactions) to threaten a turn 4 win than to play a mild stax piece like Blind Obedience at my LGS

Is this normal?
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>>96866568
>the super-cacti as trees
I think some exaggerated landscapes is fine and helps the environment stand out, but yeah the magic laser pistols and shit are fucking retarded reddit tier.
>it's Joss Whedon's fault in the end.
I like his early stuff like Firefly, but god damn did the prevalence of his "Marvel" writing style overtake literally all of western entertainment to a severe detriment.
>>96866585
>indigenous-coded people but they're just dressed like cowboys too
If they weren't, it'd be a little too racist. (not racist at all but its WotC)
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>>96867105
We've had that since those ugly-ass special frame profile shots from modern horizons
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>>96867105
What cards in ATLA are just a face closeup?
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>>96867128
no other card is THIS close to the cameraman
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>>96867137
But is that real?
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>>96867108
Or course it is. No one wants to deal with stax.
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>>96867145
UB is real and here to stay anon, let it go
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>>96867145
yes
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>>96867137
>>96867145
Seems it is. I wasnt caught up. Was confused when someone said there are cards that are screencaps of the show.
I think that was fine for Final Fantasy, having official art, but the cartoon screencaps are a bit weird looking now that I'm scrolling through them. Kind of a shame, considering I actually think the rest of the art is pretty nice.
>>96867157
Yeah, I agree. But not what I meant.
Also if marvel and TMNT sets keep flopping, maybe it won't be as prevalent as once expected. Its clear that even in UB, "flavor" matters a lot to people
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>>96867108
authority of the consuls goes in every white deck and I'm not sorry
you want to play fast games fuck off back to arena BO1 standard
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>>96867108
Nothing gets you hated out of a game faster than mild inconveniences
People get more mad about blind obedience than they do rhystic study on average.
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They will NEVER print another card like this anymore bros
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>>96867230
Theres a lot of cool cards they will never make anything like again thanks to the WotC rot.
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>>96867108
>is this normal?
your LGS is more casual than the average
they clearly have no concept of a combo from the command zone that will pop off 100% of the time in just a few turns (bracket 4)
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>>96867137
I think one of the reasons I never got into the show as a kid was the animation looked so shit. Everything looks blurry or like they smeared it with a vaseline filter.
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>>96867245
Not that anon, but clearly I have no concept of that either. 99 cards and a guaranteed pop off just seems crazy to me. But I guess theres 30 years worth of cards to stacks the deck with, so what do I know.
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>>96867230
a staple in my oros theme deck
>the theme becomes very obvious very quickly
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>>96867255
Oh man I have been STRUGGLING with Oros.
ya got a list?
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>>96867271
a real list or a list to shit up a bracket 1 pod with muh racism?
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>>96867068
cursed image plz delet
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>>96867278
I would be interested in both dezu sandpie
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>>96866978
What on earth does this even mean
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>>96867302
He's mad that some tripfag disagrees with him.
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>>96867230
I swear there was a card like this spoiled in the last 12 months
I cannot find it on scryfall though
this is driving me crazy
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On a couple rare occasions, I didn't have it.
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>>96867230
> infinite combo slop
And thats a good thing
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>>96867348
>wont print cool cards because of stuffy doll
>prints egregious combo pieces anyway
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>>96867278
nta but can I get the racism list
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>had it
>forgot I had it
I'm mad to this day.
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>>96867381
>didn't have it
>told opponent I had it
>opponent scooped
>realized I didn't have it
>still feel bad about it
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>>96867391
>didn't have it
>opponent out of the game tells me I have it
>i really had it all along
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>>96867381
>>96867391
>>96867433
>didn't have it
>bluffed that I had it
>leave mana open as if I have it
>opponent makes his play warily
>I lose
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>hadn't had it ever
>tell them I have it
>they always call my bluff
feels bad man
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>>96867381
>didn't have it
>had open mana in case I had it
>opponent scooped thinking I had it
This has happened more than a few times. Some people would rather scoop than see if their opponents had the out.
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>had it
>opponent doesn't care, let's me have it
>lose
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>>96867321
This maybe
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FRESH and NEW

>>96867493
>>96867493
>>96867493
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>>96867391
>>didn't have it
>>told opponent I had it
>>opponent scooped
>>realized I didn't have it
>>still feel bad about it
Thats half of playing Izzet, anon.
Tell your opponent you have it, even if you dont
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>>96867145
https://scryfall.com/card/tle/24/cruel-tutor
yes it's real, it looks like a fucking shitpost but thats actually what the card looks like
it's literally a screenshot too, artist credit is just the episode it's cropped from
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>>96867712
I think this artwork fits alot better, don't know why they didn't go with something like this
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>>96867712
They're all screengrabs is the point, one per episode, but it's... Very poorly done.
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>>96867749
Thats really fitting, especially given the moment and even the dialogue spoken in that scene.
"You will learn respect, and suffering will be your teacher."
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>>96867255
>>96867271
>>96867278
Later today I can take a picture of my Oros deck I threw together a few weeks ago. It's barely a bracket 2 and needs work, but that's part of the fun. I probably took inspiration from one anon I'm quoting here. Nothing but white creatures, lots of deathtouch equipment.
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Avatar is just gay as fuck like all UB Troon slop
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I want to run pic related as an elf tribal commander. Are there any cool elf-specific enchantments or am I just windmill slamming anthems like nobodys business?
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>>96861807
slop, who cares.
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