Previous: >>96895584>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What commander do you want to build but wont because one of your friends/lgs-mates runs it?
this land might be $10
Should I buy an alpha or beta copper tablet as bling for my Valgavoth?They are kind of the same thing. I'm eyeing a slabbed alpha one I thought I could break open with my pod for a bit of fun but the more rounded corners are weird.I'm not sure how I feel about unlimited's white borders.
>>96902640It’s a $2-$3 cardIf you think about it, it’s 1R + T to give something firebending 4, so really youre just netting 1 manaThere might be a way to break it, and that’s what I’d give $2-$3, but if not it’s gonna be a bulk rare
I picked up this secret lair from my LGS today, does anyone know what these cards are supposed to represent? The preserve championship is clearly a legend from march of machines, I just cant find them it on scryfall anywhere....
>>96902674You joke but there actually is a planewalker baseball print.Can’t post images but here they arehttps://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Abaseball+&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96902640>one whole mana you can only use in combat..... its BUSTED!yawn
>>96902640isn't this going to be another FF situation where everything is 5 trillion dollary doos even if it is garbage?
>>96902660They did itThe first piece of non shit art in the set.
>>96902651Beta unless you plan on changing sleeves more frequently.
Reading you morons give your opinions on this game is absolutely hilarious.
>>96902731>Reading you morons give your opinions on this gamewhat did he mean by this?
>>96902665Why did only the fire nation have anything akin to a nation or military? And why did the other 3 elemental peoples not realize this might be a bad idea if one group was building massive navy's and shit and the other 3 were jerking off in wood huts and were savages?
>>96902731
Hey guys, I think every color should get countermagic. Not because value engines have spiraled out of control to the point often even an EtB means the player is still advantaged, but because I hate it whenever someone counters my spell and I have literally no way to stop it because non-blue colors don't have any way to handle counterspells.
>>96902726Is that an actual issue you've experienced? I double sleeve my stuff.
>>96902751Please leave your shitty bait post in the other thread
>>96902651Genuine questionHow does it feel to play something thats clearly pushed for casual but not good enough for cedh?
some day
>>96902776Anon we have a lot of generic soulless anime girls already
>>96902766try it yourself retard
>>96902628If I play FL azula do people think Im just going to be hated out of the game at face value? I kind of want to build a fairly one note pump spell voltron deck with her.Is there any recommendations that could use as side grade as the commander? I would prefer to stay in grixis but I'm open-minded.
>>96902747Reminder Korra wiped out all previous avatars by getting whipped by an evil carpet
>>96902766I'll tell you in a few weeks when I get all the cards.I only play with a group of friends. We know how each deck plays so stronger decks get focused on more and it all turns out okay.
>>96902790It’s just Feather but worse, youre fine.
>>96902717Avatar is vastly more niche than Final Fantasy, and there very clearly isn't the same insane level of hype around the set itself
>>96902807Seems pretty hyped to me.
>>96902219>>96902219meme decks are great if they're creative but most of the time they're stupid reddit shit like "chair tribal"
>>96902628Nekusar. I'd play him more as a means to reanimate zombies from my GY but the one guy in our group has made him unplayable by being a Cedh fag with it. Even if I put a tribal zombie pile together I'd still be yeeted off the table for having him in my command zone.
>>96902741the Earth Kingdom had a pretty robust military, the Fire Nation was just much more able to leverage their bending into technological advancement that gave them an advancement.They also had a magic comet supercharging them sometimes.
>>96902816>but the one guy in our group has made him unplayable by being a Cedh fag with itbuddy i promise you nothing about his deck is """""""CEDH""""""", and i know this because you're talking about building nekusar and not taking advantage of literally any of the things that he does
>>96902821Earth should beat fire in an elemental battle. Melting rock requires more than flame.
>>96902752i put a handful of alpha cards in double sleeves and noticed that even double sleeved, the alpha cards showed a slightly different wear pattern. this took years, mind you
>>96902821gave them an advantage*
>>96902828>I know this cause I am retardedkk buddy
>>96902790It's a weaker kalamax. I wouldn't sweat ti too much
>>96902790You'll be one of like 30k people running her.
>>96902828>he can't readchecks out as a mtg player
>>96902839nekusar is not a cedh commander, the gap between what you think is cedh (probably high bracket 3) and actual cedh is so far that it's laughable. your buddy's deck is strong? cool, doesn't make it cedh. tell me about how he wins. punishing you for drawing cards? maybe a wheel or two? not cedh pal
>>96902811there's a reasonable amount of hype, but it's not even close to FF.
>>96902836the art for this set fits less than even spider-man
>>96902843Never fucking thought I'd see the day
>>96902843>"I sure hope they reprint this card that has not been reprinted in 3 decades">gets the worst art humanly possibleNO MONKEY-PAW SAMA, YAMATE!
>Andrew Swordbro
>>96902741I only watched the show a bit but the fire nation got like super buzzed from some kinda eclipse or something which made them super strong. They unleashed a well timed and coordinated strike against the other nations at this time as well, effectively crippling the before the war even starts.Also the other nations where totally unprepared for what hit them. The air fags where like lazy pacifist hippies who thought they'd be fine because they lived ontop of a mountain that took flying to get to. They got genocided.The water dudes where like a loose confederation of two separate tribes who really didn't support each other so one tribe completely collapses while the other hunkers down to do nothing. The earth guys just had a fuck all large army that wasn't prepared for the level of fuck you the fire nation threw into their faces but because they are so big they didn't collapse and the fire nation completely runs out of steam.
>>96902857explain to me what i misread
>>96902628>TQ: What commander do you want to build but wont because one of your friends/lgs-mates runs it?Him, by far. A friend has a barely-bracket-2 deck that's criminally under optimized and it could be so so so much better but he refuses to update it with all the newer equipment/auras that also produce creatures upon attacking. Near zero card draw, no ramp, nothing remarkable about it. I would KILL to build him but The Gentleman's Agreement prevents me from doing so
>>96902861When I was playing cedh there was a Nekusar deck around, this was like 10 years agoIirc it was mostly the same grixis storm deck as jeleva, just with some different lines
>>96902828You know my friend dosen't play Cedh because I want to durdle with stupid zombies? How does that make sense?
Had to read this twice because I thought it was just a 1:1 to True Convection but cheaper thank god no one plays allies
>>96902910I remember when I first started playing I thought Allies just meant your creatures cause of course they are my allies.
>>96902910
>>96902885Yeah the whole comet thing is pretty crappy writing. So a comet exists that somehow powers everyone for decades? Because I don't recall this war being brand new really. Seemed like it had been going on. And just by total fucking luck the fire nation won the lottery as a comet passed by? Why doesn't any other element have this? And if a single somehow eternally there comet can give every fire user Super-Saiyan then why even have the avatar? Since by logic he should be significantly weaker than this magical group that was never known to have this power until a rock flew by Earth at 0.00001 MPH?
>>96901880there's actually a lot of hybrid cards I've been wanting to play in monowhite for like 10+ yearshttps://scryfall.com/card/mkc/201/boros-reckonerhttps://scryfall.com/card/c21/215/debtors-knellhttps://scryfall.com/card/dis/143/dovescapehttps://scryfall.com/card/shm/140/enchanted-eveninghttps://scryfall.com/card/shm/142/godhead-of-awehttps://scryfall.com/card/rvr/192/judges-familiarhttps://scryfall.com/card/cmr/447/master-warcrafthttps://scryfall.com/card/shm/243/wheel-of-sun-and-moonhttps://scryfall.com/card/shm/156/worldpurgehttps://scryfall.com/card/gtc/220/immortal-servitudehttps://scryfall.com/card/cm2/162/mirrorweavehttps://scryfall.com/card/eve/84/cauldron-hazehttps://scryfall.com/card/uma/214/double-cleavehttps://scryfall.com/card/rtr/217/growing-ranks
>>96902843They are seriously going to put this blurry shit on cards?
>>96902910I hate this art
>>96902640its paying 3 mana to gain 4 mana anon, its not that good. you're tapping it for an ability instead of for mana (-1) and then paying 2 for a conditional ability that only works during combat (-2) to get net +1 red mana.
>>96902843These screenshot cards are the worst looking cards of all time.
>>96902843PORTAL THREE KINGDOMS IS BACK BABY LET'S GOOOOOOOO
>>96902640>>96902668>>96902704It's busted with any extra combat cards, like Firebending in general is.
>>96902991extra combats suck
>>96902900it's because nekusar is not a cedh commander and it's a very newfag thing to call your buddy's strong deck "CEDH" just because it's strong and you're mad you lost to it. i can hear the seethe in your text by how you wrote "cedh fag", you got thoracled for the first time (probably not even, probably just pinged to death by forced card draw) and got mad, it happened to all of us.nekusar is a class of commander that i personally refer to as the pubstomp commanders, who are only strong at like bracket 3 and below because those decks are the least equipped to deal with them and fall off hard in actual cEDH. edgar markov is another one, ur dragon is another. don't make the mistake of thinking anything in the top 50 of edhrec is a cEDH commander. those are all very strong commanders, but you gotta remember those are just the most played commanders, that doesn't make them competitive. a real cEDH commander is something like rograkh. you mentioned that you'd get hated off the table with nekusar as your commander, this will absolutely happen at bracket 3, but nekusar himself wouldn't even make the top 10 reasons to kill you at a cedh table (they'd just assume you're running a grixis shell). if you feel your buddy's deck is too strong for your table, that is absolutely a conversation to have, it's just not cedhthis post was brought to you by my autism triggered by the use of the term cedh
>>96903004nta but it seems like you're just trying to be an angry prick starting something when you don't have the slightest idea of if you are right or not. I suggest people do not interact with you.
>>96902628Any discard deck. There a couple of guys in the play group who absolutely hate to lose cards. Its the fucking end of the world. I'll play it every once in a while, but the bitching gets old fast. It sucks because we usually need one of them for a 4th.
>>96902927No, it's just the day the comet shows up. They deliberately planned their attack on the airbenders to coincide with the comet's arrival as an attempt to kill the Avatar while he's still a child. And no Avatar means they can basically go buckwild since the Water Tribes aren't militarized at all, leaving the Earth Kingdom as the last bastion. And then they plan their final push on the EK for the comet's return.
>>96902628>TQ: What commander do you want to build but wont because one of your friends/lgs-mates runs it?Used to be Auntie Blight. Now it is no one.
>>96902668It doesn't count as a triggered mana ability so it can be doubled rather easily.
From the thread that called the one ring a "bulk mythic"
>>96902997It is kind of weird that extra combats aren't seen as the same as extra turns.
>>96902741>Why did only the fire nation have anything akin to a nation or militaryThe Earth Kingdom is fucking gigantic and even 100 years later still hasn't been fully conquered by the fire nation wtf are you talking about? They DO have a military that's why it's important for Aang to recruit King Bumi, who's his childhood friend from 100 years ago, to help fight the war. The Air nomads were pacifists living in isolated air temples that without the fire nation's airships which were recently developed had never needed to worry about invasion. The Water tribes are split between the north and south pole, the Southern water tribe largely live subsistence lives hunting since they live in fucking antarctica, the Northern water tribe do have cities and fought against the fire nation, the fire nation literally killed the fucking moon to weaken waterbending did you even watch the show
>>96903004>>96903007dudes correct, run a true control deck or 10 pieces of removal and nekusar isn't a problem. cEDH wins on turn 1,2,3 even the most stompy bracket 3 can't compete with the sheer value turn 3. noobs be noobin.cEDH is mega gay tho
>>96903038>Killed the moonAnd the planet didn't die from tides?
>>96902927>Why doesn't any other element have this?waterbenders get their bending strengthened by the moon, including being able to bloodbend during a full moon even for people not normally capable of it. The Fire Nation literally murdered the fucking moon to make waterbenders lose their powers which is why sokka's girlfriend had to sacrifice herself to become the new moon.
>>96903038ATLA is literally star wars prove me wrong
>>96903007sorry bud it's actually really bad for the health of the format when all of these new players try to stigmatize winning. i will apologize to him for being harsh, but it's important that people understand that MTG isn't a typical board game. i for one am tired of getting the stinkeye and accusations of "pubstomping" with a "cedh deck" in bracket 3 for winning with a 4 card combo on turn 12
>>96903054>God is all powerful but got stuck in a coma so nothing can be helpedSounds like Dogma.
>>96903044>And the planet didn't die from tides?all waterbenders lost their bending and the world was gonna get fucked until a few minutes later they managed to fix it.when the moon spirit is killed the moon literally vanishes from the night sky and the world goes dark until it's replaced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhD9bzzkjlM
>>96903035Sure link to some posts that said this.
>>96903004I'm the actual poster your freaking out about. Your having an autistic fit over a simple misunderstanding. My friend is being a cedh fag with it, meaning he's buying all the newest meta cards and slotting them into it making it annoying to play against, not that nekusar is cedh teir deck. Now that the misunderstanding is corrected will you calm down spazz moneky?
>>96903044They had to put a replacement moon (spirit) back retard.This is a show for children, if you google a synopsis and don't get it, ask your handler to explain it to you when you're feeling better.
>>96903065>go back 2 years in the archiveNo. Fuck off. I have better shit to do with my time.
>>96903064fucking retarded with non-sensical writing that would make Pokemon ashamed? Got it.By the way UB boy feel free to fuck off from this thread if you don't like that your show ain't popular here. /co/ is >>>/co/
new favorite card oh my godtutorable with fleshwrither too. the perfect reanimator stax card
>>96903074>ask question about new magic set's lore>get an answer>throw a tantrum about itit'll be okay lil bro you can always play premodern
>>96903068yea we cool
>>96903081our UB haters are our strongest, most important, most autistic warriors. they do more for this thread than the rest of us combined
>>96903074Nigga someone asked a question about the lore calm down
>>96903038>did you even watch the showI hate when approved UB comes out and fans of that IP begin getting uppity that others have no interest in their IP or know little about it and don't care to know.This was an issue with Final Fantasy, too. Never come to an MTG thread and expect people to understand or care about the lore from a series not even remotely adjacent to a card game.
I'm just gonna rip the band aid off. ATLA is the most derivative white washed baby's first hero's journey wheel show to ever be made. Nostalgia goggles are strong with this show since every 25 yr old was 8 when it was made. But god damn the creators of ATLA literally aitted they ripped off star wars and were huge fans to the point where Mark mother fuckin Hamil was the voice actor for the firelord. I rewatched the show as an adult and the animation and characters don't hold up. I'm really annoyed that it's held as fine art when it's the equivalent to a white woman saying she's descendant to a Cherokee princess. god damn the show is Mid. At least ninja turtles was so original it has 30 rippffs trying to capitalize on the idea.
>>96902910People are gonna play allies after the world war 2 UB set in 2027 drops
>>96903105It is literally the most important show of its time.
>>96903095>I hate when approved UB comes out and fans of that IP begin getting uppity that others have no interest in their IP or know little about it and don't care to know.He literally said >>96902741>Why did only the fire nation have anything akin to a nation or military? And why did the other 3 elemental peoples not realize this might be a bad idea if one group was building massive navy's and shit and the other 3 were jerking off in wood huts and were savages?He didn't say "I didn't watch the show", he was just making factually incorrect assertions.
>>96903106I would soi so fuckin hard and even chud out!
>>96903105I honestly found Korra more interesting at the start of it. ATLA is just "GOD HAS GONE MISSING! WE NEED GOD TO STOP THE BAD GUYS! NOT-JESUS MUST GO ON A JOURNEY TO REAWAKEN GOD, WHO IS ACTUALLY HIM."
>>96903105>I rewatched the show as an adult and the animation and characters don't hold upazula still makes my pp tingle now just like she did when I was twelve almost 20 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmTQ9V9AVao
>>96903105Star Wars is derivative of any number of other stories, so who cares? The execution was fine, bending is interesting, the characters all go through some arcs. TMNT is literally parody of Daredevil so I wouldn't be throwing that particular stone around. I think you've gotten so meta in your consumption of media that you can only ID it through tropes or monomyths.
>>96903136Plenty of evil psycho women with BPD in media. Cape shit is like 70% that
>>96903105>hurr derivative so? most stories are derivative
>>96903105based. i really liked avatar as a child and i watched it a few times as i was growing up, but i notice that my friends who absolutely love it are the same friends that exclusively watch disney movies
Uh oh the Avaslop fans are getting uppity.At least the spider-fags didn't get mad if you said spider-man sucks.
How do we fix this?
>>96903105Duh
>>96903071Do you not know how to search anon?
>>96903169No ban schedule. There's a problem? Banned the next day. Vivi should have been banned a day after it was shown he was a tier 0 deck. Not "ummm we have to wait until the scheduled banning date..." Just take care of problems when they show up. There, I fixed constructed.
>>96903169We, uh, kill the format.
>>96903179The fuck you talking about? I posted about hating women.>>96903188True.
>>96903158nobody's saying it's high art, however the last 5+ years of in-universe magic the gathering sets have ALSO been flaming dogshit so it's eye-rolling to see people shit on FF or Avatar or whatever when the """""real""""" magic of the last several years was absolute slop like Outlaws of Thunder Junction or Aetherdrift and the official MTG art direction literally includes mandates to make everything gay and ugly like pic related. We got more art of conventionally attractive caucasian and asian women in FF than we did the last ten sets combined.
>>96903193>some whining about a set from half a decade agoNot reading
>>96903193I haven't cared about Avatar since I was in middle school 15 years ago, but I'll take pic related over modern MTG art direction any day of the week
>>96903196oh shit you're from the future? how's 2030? is dockside unbanned yet?
Avatar the Last Airbender is one of the best pieces of western tv animation ever created and if you disagree I think you honestly have bad taste
>>96903229this but remove animation and "avatar the last airbender" and replace with Doctor Who
Meet my new deck!
>>96903196It's ok that you didn't read it, you couldn't argue with it anyway. Cope and seethe.
>>96903229I mean what's it seriously in competition with? Justice League Unlimited, Samurai Jack, Batman Beyond, Todd Mcfarlane's Spawn, what else is actually that high quality and still holds up like 20+ years later?
>>96903193Average MTG art is much better than the garbage in both FF and Avatar. Youre confusing feeling horny with goodness. Very common but not accurate.
>>96903255>tfw instead of Samurai Jack secret lairs for Neon Dynasty we're getting fucking TMNT in standard this timeline sucks
>>96903256>Average MTG art is much better than the garbage in both FF and Avatar.maybe 20 years ago. modern mtg digital art is like the definition of soulless. everything looks like somebody's $30 twitter artist commission of their D&D character or OC donut steel
>>9690325590's Spider-Man
>>96903244the fuck does this have to do with based quenchy avatar?
>>96903269like this entire set was literally the shitty reddit meme of "HAHA DUDE MY WARLOCK MAKES FINGER GUNS WHEN HE ELDRITCH BLASTS LIKE A COWBOY!" done completely unironically
>>96903279be honest, without the card frame would you ever seriously look at this and go "yep, that's definitely Magic the Gathering card art!"
>>96903255I'd add Venture Bros, Over the Garden Wall, and Primal to that list but yeah there isn't a lot that competes with AtlA in western tv animation.
>>96903277Who?
Hello fellow LGS-goers, tonight I have these decks with me:The first one is self explanatory. Its all removal, mostly red, and Im going to draw a lot of cardsThe second one is all removal and I'm going to make a lot of rats.The third one is uhhh well ya its all removal and Im going to voltron you.Problem?
>>96903244That looks an awful lot like fun
>>96903244Sweet! I'm still working on mine, anon. So far it's been janky fun. Find a lot of cards I've never used, as it's a budget deck.
>>96903300Who is this post for?
>>96903314Hot
>>96903300Taii is a deck I'm working on.Looks like fun, good luck!
my deck r8
>>96903331for (you)I really like running removal centric decks
>>96903347vren is especially funny because it hard counters blink nonsense
I'm trying to round out my collection with 1 more deck. Any generalized archetypes I'm missing currently? Current decks include: infinite combo toolbox, zombies living death, praetor shutdown reanimator voltron, go wide weenie storm, life gain/life cost, and spellslinger burn.
>>96903364artifact recursion or landfall
>>96903354>vren is especially funny because it hard counters blink nonsenseNGL Im salty cause last time at the LGS for the last game we all agreed to play "high 3 low 4" and I had a pretty good draw. I was able to play a tutor for 1 CMC and then I probably blundered by declining to play a card for free cause Valgavoth(?) player had the red enchantment in play that hits you for 5 for that.I tutored a one-sided board wipe. I cast it a couple turns later and the Azorius flicker player Veto'd it and I was like welp its over. So ya fuck flicker players Im still mad that I lost that game.i prob should have tutored my Smothering Tithe and played it but the retard at the table would likely have focused me down even harder if I dropped a Tithe on them
>>96903343Please tell me what the theme of the deck is, and what it does. I can't look at blurry cards like this, look up the ones I'm not familiar with and then piece how the deck works. I'm not that smart, nor do I have the time. Just a few sentences please, thanks. This is also a public service announcement for everyone who posts a deck.>>96903314>>96903244
>>96903369Landfall is cringe, but I have been looking at osgir recently
>>96903381Holy shit, were gatekeeping!We're actually doing boys!
>>96903411>gatekeeping!I don't think you know what that word means.
>>96903411>doing it boysDamn son, what a horrible typo
>>96903105>I rewatched the show as an adult and the animation and characters don't hold up.as far as nonmovie animation that's not at the level of teen titans go! or TV-MA is concerned, ATLA is among the best the west has to offer
>bring back banned as commander>urban almost all cards, and add to game changers list>bring back old legendary rule>bring back commander tuck ruleThere. I saved the format. You're all welcome.
>>96903422Clearly he disagrees.
>>96903414Go on, explain your position.
>>96903428put damage back on the stack, ban planeswalkers, and bring back mana burn. And also make it so you can only produce mana in your colors.
>>96903411Based>doing boysNot based
Reprint this piece of shit. I can only find it for like $3 and I only need counterspells to deal with board wipes.
>>96903438
>>96903446Just come by my house I have a whole bunch of these PoS's from back in the day
Deceptive Frostkite (or any clone really) copies Enduring Innocence.What happens when the clone dies? It returns to the battlefield and then enters as a copy of a creature. Does it then turn into an non-creature enchantment because the effect resolves all at once, or does it become a regular creature because the copy effect turns it back into a creature?
>>96903411>We're actually doing boysHave a seat. Have a seat over there
>>96903411>Doing boysBolas, is that you?
>>96903497It would enter as a non-creature enchantment, but also enter as a copy. I believe the copying overwrites the not being a creature thing, so if you chose to not make a copy (or simply had no valid targets) it'd just be a useless enchantment, but otherwise would be able to become a creature again. I believe.
>>96903497It becomes an enchantment, except it is a Dragon and has flying (it isn't a creature)
>>96903529Now, admittedly, the only thing I'm really basing this off of is Mirrormade, which is an enchantment that can copy an artifact, and thus would not be an enchantment. Frostkite entering as a non-creature enchantment that still copies a creature would mean that it becomes a creature. I don't know if it'd still be an enchantment though, because the copy ability doesn't have anything about becoming one in addition, so PROBABLY not?
>>96903497>clone is a 1/1 not a 0/0What's this training wheels shit?
>>96903438>terrible>dumb>Genuinely retardedMana burn was literally never ever an issue. It was removed because it was irrelevant.>yeah
>>96903552It's meant to be playable as a 1/1 overcosted flier as a backup in draft, I guess.
>>96903552.. we're you going to decline to clone something?
>>96903555It's only in a precon, no draftable sets. And UU for a 1/1 flyer with upside is on rate.
Ask yourself this. If you're playing a bracket 4 deck, how upset would you be if you saw most of the banned cards on it being played against you if you had access to them?
>>96903573Same as I would have pre-brackets. Depends on the card.
>>96903569Yes but UU for a 1/1 flyer not using its upside is overcosted.
>>96903573i play no banlist with friends sometimes so i probably wouldnt care much at all
>>96903626What banned cards do you play?
nothing will make you hate this game more than playing against a low powered deck with no winconditionbite the bulletplay bracket 4
>>96903633just upheaval and erayo in my kami of the crescent moon deck
>>96903552A 0/0 clone that loses all abilities will die while a 1/1 clone will not. It's fringe but it can happen
>>96903613The flexibility being there for when you can use it still counts as an upside.
I want to turn creatures into lands, then blink all of them to get multiple landfall triggerss at once. Is Kodama + Tymna my best choice for color + commanders?
>>96903573I wouldn't be playing bracket 4 because 80% of the GC list instantly makes the game miserable, so not at all I guess.
>>96903290Yes because I would have just assumed this was some worldsfag self portrait card next to vedalkan or something if they hadn't started doing that retarded shit where they print the guys name as flavor text
>>96902991How is it though? Firebending is on attack, so if you attack and use that mana to tap the land, you don’t net any mana because you have given something firebending after the declare attackers step.So you have to activate it first, which costs you two and a tap, essentially costing 3, so you only net 1
>>96903255Where's my King of the Hill UB
>>96903698Yedora + a sac outlet
>>96903647if you're up against a low power deck with no wincon why aren't you winning?
>>96903292God I miss Venture Bros
>>96903759Uh sir, theres been a mistake. This is your accountants office!
erm, edhbwos? why is red NOT in my wife's color identity??? what the fuck???
>>96903787Dont worry color identity is going away soon
>>96903787Man this is so confusing! We should change the rules so she can't be in decks that don't have red access. See that fire symbol on a skeleton-water card confuses me!
>>96903787Color identity includes all mana pips on either face of the card. You have posted a card of the grixis color identity.
@96903792Hyperbole.
>>96903796Incorrect.
>>96903787>Azula only becomes Red once her composure breaks down and she gives into impulsive emotionKino design.
>>96903796
>want to build a new deck>just to proxy it will cost $60+>have to buy sleeves and a new deckbox tooI hate being poor
>>96902884what does this mean
>>96903815You don’t have time for a hobby, you should be out there making yourself less poor
>>96903202It's a shame that Embracer Group owns the merchandising rights to LOTR, otherwise the set probably would have been lore accurate and had good artwork. I would love to make a Middle Earth themed deck, but the art is so atrociously bad for anything that isn't an artifact.
>>96903802>>96903810>say something wrong>get all cryptic about it because you know youre wrongFascinating
>>96903835if they keyworded firebreathing, mono-green decks would be able to run steamspitter. just saying.
>>96903835Cards as commanders need access to the colors in their text box because otherwise a card like Kenrith would be monowhite and unable to use 4 of his 5 abilities. A card like Wick would also become unplayable. The list goes on.Hybrid cards often have effects congruent with their combined color identity rather than either color and treating them as monocolor cards would be stupid and allow them to be splashable in places they shouldn’t be. A monored deck could have access to the entire color pie if this rule were to change. You already have access to tens of thousands of cards for your 100 card deck, restriction breeds creativity.Extort and firebending are reminder text. Firebending probably shouldn’t be, as it is mana production, but using the actions of a company that fundamentally did not decide on and does not like color identity as justification for changing color identity is not only circular logic but also retarded
>>96903844>ifThat word is doing some heavy lifting there, bucko. Any other dumbass hypothetical situations you wanna talk about, that'll never actually happen?
>>96903845>because otherwise a card like Kenrith would be monowhite and unable to use 4 of his 5 abilit-
This is my favorite orzhov card.
>>96903863That's a good one, but for me it's Vish Kal.
>>96903815>I hate being poorthe first step to fixing a problem is identifying the problem, so good job there
avatard is a plague just like the kingdom hearts set. shit art retarded mechanics, just get this slop out of the gameshitty low quality screenshots, incomprehensible mechanics just throw it in the bin and leave the unique and technical designs for the actual game IP not the pandering shit to draw in basement whales from other fandoms
>>96903835>you can't play more than one land per turn>why? muh rules? owned!?????
>>96903885Universes Beyond has been the best thing to happen to Magic in recent years and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>96903886Exactly.
>>96903885You'll get a spaceship racecar set in universe again soon enough. Be patient and try not to throw a tantrum, okay?
>>96903845>Cards as commanders need access to the colors in their text boxOk, but why do you need black cards in Kenrith? You cant muster the mana without dark ritual?And why cant I run black in my Adeline deck?
>>96903807Wow the bar is incredibly fucking low for avatarfags
>>96903894Anime catgirls are a genetic failure.
>>96903894>posts tranimeok
>>96903899Classic poopdickschizo post.
>>96903798Im pro hybrid change.I actually lowkey think it would be good if color identity went away. It encourages players and designers to gravitate towards 3+ color cards just to have access to shit. Why should certain commanders be allowed to run any card and others only W? Because of muh historical precedence. I think its time for people to stop pretending that this is somehow a good thing.
>>96903899greatest show ever made btw
I'm from the future
>>96903863I want a proxy with Vegeta kneeling
>>96903896where does Adeline have a black symbol on her?
>>96903885the art is the worst part. The cartoon art with cartoonish expressions fits worse than Doctor Who photo-realistic art. Aang or Sokka making a meme-tier cartoon/anime face is more out of place than David Tenant looking at me.
>>9690389040k ub and fallout ub was done well, the fucking 30,000 doctor who cares cards, kingdom hearts, all the other cons00m product anime glaze trash does not belong in the game and fucks up any kind of consistent art direction with filth. fucking play yugioh if you want spongebob mcjapanime to show up in game>>96903894the cringe and gay hat sets are also a symptom of this. edge of eternities was excellent and a return to form and originality. aetherfart and yeehaaw look its thisguy of thunder junction deserves rope
>>96903942>IPs I like are ok. IPs I dislike are not oklolAnd we know you are ok with those IPs because you didn't give them insulting names like you did to every single thing you dislike.
>>96903863>This is my favorite orzhov card.Acshually its mono W because rules reminder text doesn't count!Yes, this is a good thing.No, its not confusing for new players.No, I don't actually give a shit about new players and attempt to gatekeep them.
>>96903937youre so right. why is everything a disney cartoon>>96903947>you dont like these ipsi dont like LOTR spiderman or assassins cancer yet they fall into the same category of cancerous art/jarring inclusionhow about read my point instead of glazing over it to be smugfuck you, faggot
>>96903915>Im pro mana change>I actually lowkey fr think itta be good if the distinction between colors of mana went away. It encourages playas and designers to gravitate to runnin certain lands just ta have access to shii. Why should playas with two untapped islands be allowed ta make two BLUE mana ta cast Counterspell when others can only cast Life Burst? Because a muh historical precedence. I think its time for ppl to stop pretending that ts is somehow a good thing>(steals your shocklands)
>>96903885>kingdom hearts set?
Is elves tribal one of the strongest? I've never really built a true a tribal deck and been curious about elves and what kinda direction you can build them since they're well supported.
>>96900599This! white text on white background is GOOD design
>>96903952>i dont like LOTR spiderman or assassins cancer>so yes, they fall into the same category of cancerous art/jarring inclusion>because i don't like those IPs, duh>if i liked them i'd praise them like i did with 40klmao fuck you toocan't wait to see you cry over hybrid mana change next year
>>96903954I know your entire deck.Next you'll tap two blue mana and cast "Call him a troon"
>>96902747huh?>>96902794HUH?
>>96903979the ones that are pro hybrid change tend to be chuds because they don't bother defending nonsense like gender identi - i mean color identity
>>96903915why do you want to remove a deck making restriction? isnt that one of the appeals of commander color identity, to limit what you can make?
>>96903952so you are agreeing that your position is "IP I LIKE IS GOOD! IP I LIKE IS TRANNYSLOPCANCER"
>>96903968Seems readable to me.
If they change hybrid mana I will literally cry and scream and shit everywhere and my mommy will be mad
>>96903948Wait... what? You're telling me this isn't a black card?
Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the hybrid rules change gavin talked about. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is color identity losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the mtg community is so stupid. I want a future to believe in. I want to be the ceo of hasbro and fix this broken game. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought color identity was polling well on /edhg/???? This is so fucked.
>>96904018Wow I haven't read this pasta in years
>>96903955[final fantasy]>>96903978again read what im saying not the things i dont or do likei dont mind it much I think that it will make things more interesting and is a good experiment>>96904002no i think that using high fantasy art instead of blatant cartoon crap and selling alters as "secret lairs" is shitnoone said anything about trannies (yet)
>>96903948>attempt to gatekeep themthis but unironically
@96904018Imagine if people complained about the legend rule change like this. lol. lmao. laughing @ you.
>>96903942>edge of eternities was excellent and a return to form and originality...the space wars set?
>>96904040Once again, our catgirls mog yours.
>>96904040yes did you read the story or design notes at all? its a fucking cool concept
>>96904003notice how the original picture used merfolk looter as an example. a card that didn't exist in ABU like how the title section leads to believe. I'd agree that the old grey font IS readable but the moment they changed it to white they fucked upthe original picture also conveniently leaves out any white titles for the reader to see this immediately. it's just full of tricks to fool people and then just state things as facts the most disingenious way
>>96904014No, because the black cost is in parentheses.
>>96904018this but the other way around
>bunch of prowess support shit>stupid ally tribal>boring exile triggers>only fun mechanic is turning lands into creatures but there's not nearly enough support for it to be viable>turtles is already revealed to be a generic slop set with boring artifacts tokens counters focus **YAWN** Lets just skip to Lorwyn and Star Trek.
Hello /edhg/! We have a survey we'd like you to complete to give feedback on UB:ATLA. Thank you for helping us make a better product!> Do you have a positive or negative view of this set?> Which youtubers contributed to this impression?That is all. Thank you!
>>96904055B-But I can see the black mana symbol right there! This means you should need black commander for it!
>>96904071hello JotC, avatar is fucking cringe, overwhelmingly negative viewthe youtubers who contributed to this are >mark rosewater>pleasant kenobi>wizards of the coast youtube account>avatar the last coinbender youtube account
>>96904054Yeah but aside from that singular flaw the old borders are superior to the new ones in every way, aesthetically and practically. Which is why you focus entirely on the white-on-white names. It's the only point in favor of the new frames that you have. Obviously, Magic cards would look better if they went back to the old frames. The name contrast issue on white cards has an easy fix.
>>96902628I want to build a landfall/graveyard deck with all the land slop I've gathered over the years.Should I go Thalia&The Gitrog Monster or Szarel, Genesis Shepherd?I enjoy jund more as a color combo but I like Thalia being a nightmare to block. Also the crucible effect on Szarel is more are but the stax on Thalia is powerful too
>>96904046I'll admit I have a thing for Kutzil. She's hot.>>96904048It's store-brand star wars. Generic sci-fi slop.You know there are actual sci-fi series you could read/watch, right? Legend of the Galactic Heroes or Gundam are relatively entry-level so I think they'd be suitable for you if you found the space wars set interesting.
>>96904084yes, and I would prefer old in a heartbeat if they fixed it by using actual grey alpha font. I'm just saying the picture is claiming otherwise and thus reads like some propaganda
>>96904102>Kutzil. She's hot.i thought it was a dude in a crop top.
>>96904106She's my confident muscle mommy with exposed thighs and midriff.Y'shtola's up there too though. She's very pretty in this art, and her dress looks so tight around the chest...
>>96904106>i thought it was a dude in a crop top.wotc art direction, current year and all that
>>96904106>>96904102>She's hotmy kalas
for me, its this big black cat
>>96902816>>96902891Break the gentleman's pact. I had to because this one friend in the playgroup is connected 24/7 to the spoiler stream and builds and proxies like 3 to 5 new commanders as soon as they are revaled. He will react weird at first but you will much more free once you break your mental chains
Which commander should I proxy with custom art for an Xavier: Renegade Angel deck?
Hybrid change would compeatly shit on the concept of colour identity and quickly unravel the boundries of the format. If all it takes for me to use a card is being able to cast it, why do i give a shit about coloured ability costs?Or worse, coloured mana production.Why should white creature Kitchen Finks be mono green and Avacyn's Pilgrim be Selesnya?Let's not even start with Phyrexian Mana pandora's box
>>96903153Thing is ATLA doesn't Paint the BPD woman as a girlboss who did nothing wrong because it's actually muh sexism's fault
>>96904146>a deck can run anything that uses only generic and phyrexian manayou know what tho
>>96903885You are right the FF stuff was abysmal and not related to wizards, swords or fantasy at all.
>>96903885God Aetherdrift was the last best set we’ll ever see compared to FF trash. It fits the themes of magic so much better.
>>96903340Working on Taii too friend, how are you going to compensate for the commander over-reliance? I'm thinking adding stuff like Torbran
>>96904157>>96904162Both bad.
>>96904157Correct. When one thinks of fantasy franchises in the year of our lord 2025, they immediately think of Magic the Gathering's Universes Within.
>>96904102it is not in the slightest.not looking at your anime crap
>>96904162>>96904171It's honestly weird how many "fantasy" stories forget about how space elevators are a staple of the genre.
>>96904182sci-fantasy
>>96904153Neither does 99.999999999999% of media. Fuck off politic fag
>>96904162Yeah the art in aetherdrift is more fitting than ATLA>B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THESE SPECIAL COLLECTORS EDITION CARDS?!Don't care and didn't ask.
>>96904146You're right, frogposter. Let's consider all our other upstanding pillars of the format.>Players reserve commanders in their area so nobody else can build them>You can't generate mana outside your color identity, that way you can't steal cards from other decks and cast them>Your deck is exactly 100 cards total. There's no additional cards you can bring in from outside the game just because you met a deceptively easy requirement, or are running some goofy un-set cards>P9 is legal because it's the format for playing the cards you have, even if they're powerful>You can Spell Crumple away someone's general permanently because they're not actually that important to their deck anyway and it's a funny niche interaction>Generals getting being put in exile after dying is a replacement effect, that way people can't loop death triggers on their general and abuse being able to cast them from exile>No duplicate basic lands, this is a format about variety
>>96904171Yes I'd say digital and traditional style art fits MTG more than the literal anime NES Booklet art in the post you are replying to.
>>96904214>I have autismthanks for telling us?
I don't play commander, it's a bad format.
>>96904170hahahhaaaahahaha god you must really hate magic to think that FF card is off-theme
>>96904162Honestly I hate how shamelessly Nintendo ripped off Magic.
>>96904227They even stole Daring Mechanic
>>96904227>References bro!Imagine I posted an Arabian Nights card.
>>96904225in setting? No. In terms of art and everything else? Objectively off theme.
>>96904232Nuance is inconvenient for shills.
>>96904214>>You can't generate mana outside your color identity, that way you can't steal cards from other decks and cast themthis is a great idea tho. theft decks should consider who they are stealing from and not just a free pass to use whatever tool comes to hand.
>>96904232>in settingLooks pretty Sword/Sorcery to me>in terms of artLooks pretty Sword/Sorcery to me
>>96904214>>You can't generate mana outside your color identity, that way you can't steal cards from other decks and cast themThis wouldn't impact any cards that state "and you can spend mana as if it were any color to cast this" type shit. Which is most of them.
>>96904242>I think anime and traditional fantasy are the sameGet that brain damage checked
>>96903993>why do you want to remove a deck making restriction? isnt that one of the appeals of commander color identity, to limit what you can make?Because anyone can opt out of this restriction by running 4 or 5 colors and there is an ever increasing number of commanders that allow people to do that.Developers will keep shoehorning 5 color commander bait cards into sets because of this. Players will tend to favor 3+ color commander precisely because it allows them to opt out of restrictions.I would unironically support a system that caps your 99 at 2 colors regardless of how many colors your commander has. I just think its bullshit that some neat commanders will be passed over because they are monocolor.
>>96904181That's fair. I assumed it was probably too much for you anyways.
>>96903105Contrarian.Have another (you)
>>96904250>two knights, a white mage, and a black mage are anime!!!!!You just really wanted to say anime, didn't you
>>9690421299% of well spread media does. Your estonian film festival movies with 3 watchers don't really count. It's observable reality, even if you're in denial and try to frame it as politics
>>96904255the 5c commanders are almost always typal, so its almost always a very obvious tell in how the deck has been built and how to counter them. kenrith is like the only one that can get weird because of all the other abilities he has but even then its usually just a generic pile of little synergy.so yeah you end up running more colors but you arent really being creative.
>>96903838They're not wrong. The mana symbol isn't a part of the card's text, since reminder text isn't a part of the card.It's the exact same reason why Crypt Ghast can be run in a mono-black deck, even though the reminder text on Extort features a white mana symbol.
All of these posts are obviously shitposts. None of them are real arguments.
>>96904262Extremely cringe post.
>>96904214>You can't generate mana outside your color identityWas the case for most of the game's life and nobody had problems with it.>You can Spell Crumple away someone's general permanentlyTucking commanders into the deck was a legit strat to deal with opressive bullshit and changing it was bad
>>96904297Yeah weird how the format completely died when you were no longer able to delete any build-around commander from the game.
>>96904300>make overly gimicky deck that folds without correct cards on the field >cry that oppnents interacting with it stops you from winning
>>96904297>Tucking commanders into the deck was a legit strat to deal with opressive bullshit and changing it was badImprison on the moon, oubliette, darksteel mutation, lignify, eaten by piranhas, witness protection, tasha's tidebinder, any number of flip effects.Disabling a commander isn't hard at all.
>>96904300>the most popular format with no contest>"died"
>>96904318He's clearly implying the format didn't die, and in fact got more popular, after the change that removed something that made the format shittier.
>>96904257>heh, i assumed it was too much for you anywaycool no argument, straight to personal commentsyoure a retarded faggot
>>96904319>implying that the format could get anymore shitty
>>96903155Imagine basing your opinions on things purely off of how other people view them
>>96904316Then why are we whining about the shuffle thing specifically if other cards do it in a different way?
>>96904363The only interaction with tucking is counterspells, which is aids.
>>96904232It's crazy how UB has mindbroken so many of you so hard that you're turning into unironic retards.
>>96904377oink oink
>>96904361That's how shills operate, and that's how they want you to operate.
The professor said that ATLA is approved UB, and Trek/TMNT are unapproved UB.
>>96904473Correct. My quenchy IP is based. Your bogus IP is cowabullshit
Accidentally posted this >>96904519 in the old thread because I'm retarded
>>96904327>>96904403Absolutely dogshit posters.
>>96904532kys my man
Rate my commander
>>96904796Dimir is the only two color combination with black that I'm missing because there are no good dimir commanders but this looks pretty good.
>>96902766What you describe is usually the absolute worst place for a deck to be but I don't see how it applies to what you're replying to.
>>96904796stop spamming this shit
>>96904830Jealous?
>>96904830Did you pay the 1 for this post?
