>Previous thread:>>96877479>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames. The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games. This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings, Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix, Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Shrek, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone, Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures, OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Shrek_%28character%29.png>Hobby Challenge theme for Octoberhttps://strawpoll.com/GPgVYBPYEna/results>TQWhat's up on the chopping block for you, Anons? Painting? Games? Building? Converting?
>>96925644>What's up on the chopping block for you, Anons? Painting? Games? Building? Converting?Working on my new, generic space human army. Grognards as infantry, some assorted sci-fi vehicles from various brands and FDM printed vehicles due to a lack of cool, sci-fi plastic tanks/APCs I have found. Going to use it for Grimdark Future and anything else I can get a game of. Should be fun.
>>96925644>What's up on the chopping block for you, Anons? Painting? Games? Building? Converting?I gotta add to my pile of (primed) shame before the snow flies, and I'm going to practice carving XPS into different shapes.
>>96925644Terrain, victrix stuff and stargrave automatons. Trying to figure out a way to make consistently symmetrical gorgets with masking tape and hole punches, but so for I haven't got the measurements exactly right, a skew of one millimeter or so.
>TQI went a bit nuts during some early sales and bought a Saturn 4 Ultra 16k and an Ender 3 so I am aiming to get them dialled in and some printing done. Found a kickstarter for ‘Shardstone City’ that is still taking late pledges, it’s a printable flat-pack version of the original Mordheim terrain, so that’s what the FDM is starting on, and the Saturn is going to start cranking out not-Mordheim and Trench Crusade.
>>96926684>stargrave automatonsThose look pretty interesting. Did you build yours yet, Anon?
>>96926718Yeah, built them with my son so that he got to choose the bits. For a 6-year old it was amazing that he could choose between laser eyes, flamethrowers and chainsaws for arms just to name a few. He giggle triumphantly throughout the process.All in all it is typical north star quality, ton of bits. But to me it seemed that the details on the largest guns were a bit soft and the line between the gun and the arm was blurry, in a bad way.
>>96925644So uh. What's ahistorical about OP pic?
>>96927050The shields for a start. Round Shields supplanted rectangular ones during the late Ironage.
>>96927050They're for a wargame called Oathmark, a fantasy setting. Aside from the ahistoric design of the humans, there are elf archers in the background, the yellow/blue chainmail lads.
>>96927050based retard
>Year of our lord 2025>Still no scifi skirmish game that's both brutal and tactical like BLKOUT, but where you can play with whatever scifi models you already have.
>>96927442Who's going for your kneecaps if you play blackout with your space army men?
>>96927472The game is built around specific army lists.For a game to be mini-agnostic, you want to be able to either stat your units, or at least have broad unit types ("heavy infantry" "light infantry"...) which can fit whatever miniatures you have.
>>96925644>TQThe list never ends. I avoid painting like the plague so I'm mostly kitbashing stuff and building scenery.
>>96927472>>96927509To expand a little bit on that:Being able to fully stat your units is the death of a certain type of gameplay, so I'm fine with not having that.But a great approach for miniature-agnostic games is what Alien Squad Leader did:>You get a bunch of army lists which fits most scifi tropes you can think of, from bug hivemind to space invaders, to robot uprising>Each list has generic unit types ("conscripts" "elite soldiers in exo armour" "light vehicle") which can represent a wide-ish variety of stuff.>So you can pick an army which roughly fits the minis you have, then choose equivalents for each minis. You can then get a few new miniatures on top of that to get some units you don't have a good equivalent of, but which would work well in this list
I want to build a small skirmish force for random games. Should I go with stone age amazons or literal apes with sticks and stones?
>>96925644>TQBought some bad but really cheap goblins from Amazon and I'm currently turning them into a Turnip28 army. Lots of kitbashing and greenstuff, mostly greenstuff. Probably my favorite project in a long time as I just get to go wild with bits, bobs, and putty.After that is probably gas lands. I bought a dozen or so hotwheels and the rulebook is in the mail. Really not sure what I'm going to do about weapons for those. Building convincing modern-ish guns out of toothpicks and cotton swabs seems daunting, but I really don't have any modern weapon bits laying around. I guess rockets and tesla coils shouldn't be too hard to scratch build
>>96927050The shields, the helmets, the "studded leather" DnD style armor and hoodie. The swords and hilariously thick spears. The worst part to me is the stupid pirate boots that everyone is wearing
>>96926827>He giggle triumphantly throughout the process.Holy shit, is your son me!?!
>>96927050Historical Normans had a more pronounced philtrum groove
>>96927728...I'm going to refrain from making a /pol/ joke.Serious answer: Amazons will be easier to fit in all sorts of games. There's not that many games where you can field an army of ape men (to my great dismay. I love ape men).Follow-up question, though: where would you find apes armed with sticks and stones? The only ones I'm aware of are from Lucid Dream (the publisher, not the VR alternative for poor people) and they cost an arm and a leg.Why is nobody making plastic kits of ape men, it's an absolute pulp classic and it can be used everywhere from fantasy to scifi, goshdangit.
>>96928528>the "studded leather" DnD style armorIt's not studded leather, it's a primitive coat of plates, the studs are rivets holding large (but crude) metal plates in place. With some of the bodies you can see the plates more explicitly defined with many more studs holding in smaller plates.
>>96928528>>96929391Like these lads.
>>96927728Literal apes, cus women are everywhere but monkeys are not. At least not the literal ones.
>>96925644>TQBuilding and painting lots of terrain. I have always felt that anything terrain-related sucks fat apecock, but I'm trying to make it fun since good terrain is vital for a nice board.
>>96929391>>96929405>my reference is some fat boomers LARP costume
>>96929197>Normans Oathmark is supposed to be iron age. The iron age predates even the ancient Romans. It's like 2000 years before the Normans, who were around in the High Middle Ages
>>96930695Uh. I thought it was supposed to be fantasy. This isnt /hwg/
Karmans were shit but seeing them at the mall do remind me of days gone by
>>96930787Oathmark is iron age alt history. You'd know that if you read the rules or played games
>>96929405That left boomer looks like Horst Krause. RIP Horst!
*another thread another day of the historical sperg trying to shit the thread up.Sigh.
>>96930831Uh. Is this reverse ahistorical gatekeeping, or nogames gatekeeping instead of nominis like before?
>96930831Here is your crumb of attention, now kindly fuck off.
brainstorming grabbing mantic's trident realm guys and turning them ancient egyptian themed. I dont plan on using the fish elves or whatever they are, but I like the frogmen. Anyone know where I can find egyptian themed bits? I know at the very least tomb king spearmen have shields that come seperate, meaning I can give my frogs Ikem. ideas and sudgestions are welcome
>>96931065Maybe check out Crocodile God Games, you could like them.https://www.crocodilegames.com/store/itemList.cfm?catID=14&sort=prodID
>>96927560>>96927509>>96927442I don't get it. As far as I remember the rules, the worst you'd need to do with BLKOUT is refluffing stuff like data attack to psychic attack or whatever
Lad, what are your prefered warbeast, the one you add everytime you can. When I get "good guys", the dinosaurs and hippogrifs are my prefered. When I do bad guy like ORcs, I really love to get Ogres/trolls in the style of the LoTR, I really like the big brutes.
>TQJust bought this at the shop.Will basically just keep the shell shape and turn it into a walking tank
>TQLots of things. I think I'll paint pic rel next, then finish another half-done terrain piece for my sci-fi board and paint the rest of an army for Xenos RampantThen I think it will be Quar all through the winter.
>>96929385>Lucid DreamsI think mou mean Lucid Eye Miniatures?
>>96930868>nogames gatekeeping instead of nominisAre you still mad about the hobby challenge that 4 people did something for? Do you have any good suggestions for hobby challenges that don't involve minis?
Anyone know simple systems for adding map based campaigns to your wargames?? I'm not looking for something super advanced and a burden to learn
>>96927560Is Alien Squad Leader any good?
>>96932433God damn I need to retire so I can dedicate a room to a big ass gaming table so I can have a board like this
>>96932857Why would retiring allow you get get a big gaming room? Typically people make much less after retiring
>>96933042Typically when people retire their cost of living goes down with their income. Also wargaming is a relatively cheap hobby and a large hobby table would cost more in time/effort then actual money.
>>96933042Time = money. If you've got a lot more time and a bit of money but aren't (say) driving a car everyday anymore then other projects are easier. Knocking up a bunch of shelves and a gaming table aren't hard or expensive as long as you have a few basic power tools and a couple of weeks to fuck around at your own pace.
>>96931800Monsters of all kinds, I'm particularly fond of old Warmahordes Legion warbeasts and Crocs.
>>96938596The new everblightg aspies mecha-lizards are awful, I want my everbligth dragonspawn autismus please! Everblight pondering, mix and matching dragonspawn is my prefered part of warmhorde.
>>96931065Eureka miniatures chaos egyptians
>>96927728Reject bitches, return to monke.
>>96930831>>96930868This is why my wargame will exclusively take place in "The Dark Ages". With the Dark Ages defined as what Hollywood and fantasy writers thought the Middle Ages were like up until the 1980s.
What do people think about the 2nd edition of Dragon Rampant? I've seen a lot of praise for the 1st edition and the author seems to be mostly addressing the feedback and requested changes/fixes with the new edition - at least according to his own designer's notes.I've never played the 1st edition but I'm looking for a single-book warband-sized wargame. I'm currently torn between Open Combat and Dragon Rampant 2E but I'm open for any other recommendations.
>>96938976Post a mini at least you cumbrain retard.
>>96939008>He missed the memoGee Anon, neopuritanism is dead. They killed it. Trying to make your virtue signaling crusade keep going on 4chan of all the places is hilarious but you do you lad.
>>96939205Go back to /tv/
>>96938976Not played 2e yet, 1e got me back into miniatures and wargaming. The rules look real good, nothing revolutionary but cleaned up from 1e, and a lot more options with Fantastical rules. The new spell system also looks good. Currently working on a greenskin warband and a undead warband, will try to convince the missus the play a game or two with me of 2e soon. My only issue with the 2e books is all of the... random bs. A lot of fluff, much of it very meta, in Fantastical rules especially. Book.could have been significantly smaller, if it had been more focused.
>>96925644>TQPriming and painting the second half of my Quar Gloamer patrol, and after that finally getting to play. Terrain will be the next step methinks
>>96939260Why would I? I actually have miniatures and play games, unlike you I assume. Otherwise you would have more to say than just getting angry about a reaction picture on a reaction picture forum. >>96939270>A lot of fluff, much of it very meta, in Fantastical rules especially. Book.could have been significantly smaller, if it had been more focused.Perhaps it's a sign of severe autism on my side but whenever I find a game that is good enough to keep me invested for a long time, I create a slimmed down version of the rules with all the pointless fluff, notes and pictures removed - just raw text. I'm cleaning up SPQR rules nowadays since my gf liked it a lot.
>>96939287>Puritanism.Friggin retarded usanians, its about being on topic. You retards can't behave, either nothing sensual or sugesting, or full on porn brained retardation, be on topic and learn to behave.
>>96939287Heres a terrain piece from a large game board I'm working on. >reaction imageDon't post the new lazy shitposting images from lazy shitposting boards and people won't assume your a lazy shitposting sperg. Pretty simple.
>>96939294>either nothing sensual or sugesting, or full on porn brained retardationWoman in bikini top doing a funny face is porn now.>be on topicMy question was on topic, your response was not. Should I post a subway surfer webm next time to keep your attention? If the only response you are capable of is to sperg maybe you should work on your anger control. >>96939297Is it your print or one of the Temu prints I see a lot on /tg/ lately? I pulled the trigger on a few sets lately and they were quite good for their ridiculously low price.
>>96939318I think my sister got it from Amazon but its probably the same thing your from temu. I didn't like the heavy print lines but after painting it I quite like it alot. It reminds me of old etchings.
>>96925644Removing and rebuilding the turret on the one in the back (SKB-50 Aerosan-02SS) so I can swap weapons and rotate it.Figuring out which warband gets the BRDM-1. Won't have to do much to either to make them more scifi. Some light sanding and/or fairing on the more obvious print lines.
>>96931800>>96938596I'm something of a troll man myself, I do like those scrawny old-GW style trolls too>>96939325That does look good, too bad they didn't print it sideways and really put those lines to work.
New Warcrow minis. Feudom Foot Knights.
Yaldabaoth Liberated.
Syenann Sprigs.
>>96941040Feudom are generic as hell knights, but they are well done generic as hell knights.
>>96941040Painfully generic
>>96941040>>96941062>>96941066>SiocastNah. No, unicool is not better - same shit.
>>96941066>>96941062>>96941040Good if generic, but not good enough for the price.What was corvus thinking with this game, in Spain there are already too many smal skirmish games, without talking outside.
>>96941205>SiocastEEEWWWW
>>96941040>>96941062>>96941062>>96941066Not jumping on the hate wagon, but like, how is this any better than Nolzur's or whatever?
>>96941062Are those tentacle monsters?
>>96938976It has more options, so it is just the original game but with more. However if you can't get over the "you didn't roll a 7+, turn over" activation thing, then it won't matter.
>>96929197kek
>>96927728>Should I go with stone age amazons or literal apes with sticks and stones?Both: do an Opar force, a race consisting of amazonian women and regressed apelike men.
>>96941205>>96941241At this fucking price point?! No way...
>>96939297This looks like it has scanlines from being in a SNES game
>>96925644THe look of the oathmark humans have grown on me a bit. At first I didnt like them very much, they had this weird generic but kind of goofy feel to them that didnt quite appeal to me at first. but now I can kind of apreciate it as having its own distinct celto-saxon look to them without going too crazy and loosing their lower fantasy vibe.
>>96941891This looks less detailed.
>>96942129>muh detailsYou will lose them under 12 coats of paint anyway. The fetishisation of details that look good only on 76mm 3D prints painted by studio painters is baffling to me.
>>96939260>>96939008
>>96938976It looks really good, added a lot of extra fantastical rules like I wanted and some quality of life optional rules like group activations, shieldwalls and flanking.
>>96942175Thin your paint.
>>96942216Post your minis and I will post mine, ok?
>>96942245I'm not a particularly good painter, but that's not the point. Thin your paint if you're completely hiding detail.
>>96939008
>>96941891What mini is that? It's not Nolzurs Shambling Mound.
>>96942299>but that's not the pointThis is exactly the point. The ridiculous amount of details we are seeing now on minis should not matter for 95% of hobbyists but somehow GW - and other companies following them mindlessly as always - managed to convince them to believe so.
>>96942408Some people like the details. You might not be one of them, so what?
>>96942408More than 5% of painters thin their paint enough not to completely hide details on their minis actually.
>>96942408Thick your glasses.
>>96942438>so what?You voiced your opinion that new Warcrow minis are good because of details. I voiced mine that details don't matter from some point. That's it. Have you forgot in what thread are you responding?
>>96942441NAYRT. 5% of wargamers might have the skills AND willingness AND time. I use Contrast so it's as thinned as it can be plus I'm unemployed but fuck you I don't want to paint every single silly thing they manage to cram on a filler model. The mere fact that the guy memeing "thin your paint" couldn't produce a decent figurine himself proves the hypocrisy of the whole thing. I don't care if the real number is 2% or 20%, I've seen enough grey horde in my life to know the real state of the hobby.
>>96941891>Tfw not a good enough painter to look down on Nolzurs
>>96942536Contrast paint, out of all paints, does the opposite of obscuring detail. It's thin and watery so it makes them more evident. Ink doesn't obscure detail even on very cluttered textures; in fact, it works much better on very textured surfaces, where it can fill all the crevices and provide sufficient contrast to highlight the details than on flat, undetailed surfaces where it will pool and dry in a blotchy coverage.
>>96938976Man it's a real shame Kaho lost that weight, now she's got much smaller tits and less cute face now.Anyway, Dragon Rampart 2e has AI generated art. Wouldn't touch it with rented hands.
I made these spaceships out of Argos pens to go with my other ships made from lighters. I hope you all like them
>>96942623So beautiful! Kinda reminds me of Studio Ghibli movies.
>>96942623I do like them. Well done.
>>96942623Very comfy anon. The little pennants are a lovely touch, I've seen people do similar on Rogue Trader vehicle scratchbuilds
>>96942408If you're the anon that started the Abaddon thread, and then admitted to only using contrast, go to hell. Either way, I still hard disagree. I'd rather get detail I don't feel bothered to single out, than everything look like bland historicals.
Stripped down this tortoise toy. I just like the shell shape. Think a huge cannon (maybe a leftover Baneblade short fat barrel cannon from someone building a longer variant) and stubby legs
>>96942715Kind of inspired by this thing, the Dachshund tank from Mammoth Miniatures
>>96942623>>boob guns>>gook writinggtfo my board you weeb
>>96942623I wish I was half as creative as some people on the interwebz
>>96942715I was hoping you'd keep the glass cockpit
>>96942756It's a bit too dopeyAnd I have a bit of an autistic thing that I don't like translucent parts on miniatures. Don't ask why
I cleared my room today. My minis and felt came today. I stacked a bunch of tables to save myself a fortune. It was a good day.I really like the cheap felt, however it's not wide enough. I cut it in half to see what the table might look like and I'm happier than I thought I would be. I don't really want to deal with the seams so I am going to order more and then staple it down, perhaps glue it as well.I was going to fuck around with making separate boards but it was quickly becoming a money sink. It's an old folded plasterers table underneath so my plan is to felt it green on one side and grey on the other.Maybe in the future I'll consider more modular/standard sized boards. I could probably split the table into two and get four different felts on there.What are some simple ways to temporarily mark battlefield edges for the duration of a game? String is too wobbly, although maybe string and blutack/pin is a good idea.>>96942623Kinda looks like something out of Nausicaä
Looks like Kings of War halflings got a drakon rider and a drakon in a mobility scooter.
>>96942827This isn't /hwg/ you faggot
>>96942820Masking tape retard.Also>Secure Connection Failed>An error occurred during a connection to sys.4chan.org. What a bizarre captcha
>>96942869/hwg/ - hobbits & wizards general
>>96942922Masking tape isn't reusable nor discrete, Master Anon. Thank you anyway.
>>96942641>>96942649>>96942678>>96942820Thanks! Here's a picture of the rest of the fleet in case you're interested. All made of lighters and old paint brush handles>>96942715That is really cool shell shape. I love the idea of a tortoise tank, though I think you should maybe turn the front into a big rocket pod. Flatten it off then use some pen lids or something as the tips of the rockets. Please keep us posted
>>96942827mantic had to bump up their prices because the UK is on the verge of collapseeverything they sell is overpriced. they're asking for £25 for pic related for examplethey can fuck off
>>96942945You can buy a giant roll of it for peanuts. And it can come in fairly thin strips. Not sure why you would want your board boundaries to be discreet, having the edge be clear prevents arguments and confusion.
>>96942583>Wouldn't touch it with rented handsWell, I want to play it for the rules only so it doesn't bother me. It looks atrocious tho. I have no idea why they even bothered with AI "artwork" when the line-art artwork used alongside it looks great. The whole book should stick only to this one particular style imo.
>>96942954Sweet, what are you going to play with them?>>96942977(you)
>>96943046To be fair the art in Xenos rampant isn't very good either. Very blurry and sketch-like. Lion rampant has the best art of all merseyverse books I've seen.
>>96942715Weak ass victim hands. You look easy to assault
I dragged some of my friends into the hobby with Space Weirdos in the past month. Today we played a 3-way King of the Hill game and I managed to steal victory in the last round.Fun game, gonna try Xenotactics and maybe Fivecore too sometime in the future. Also looking at my terrain I think I gotta fix up the paintjob on some pieces and get a better mat because this one is too busy.Thank you for reading my blog.
I was wondering how you handle situations that are NOT covered in a rulebook when playing narrative games? I was reading Caesars Gallic Wars and at one point the Romans are building a siege tower and ramparts at the bottom of a hill, the gauls are garrisoned on the hill. The Gauls take a bunch of rolls of straw and barrels and set them on fire and rolled them down the hill and caught the Roman siege works on fire. The Gauls then attacked the Romans so stop them from putting out the fire, but some Romans used axes to break part of the rampart to stop the fire spreading. How would you even do this on a game when it's not on the rules? If I announced "my men take bundles of straw on fire and roll them down the hill" or "my men break down a potion of their palisade to stop the fire spreading" I feel like the opponent would go "NUH UH THAT'S NOT IN THE RULES!!" I almost feel like you need a GM almost like an RPG who decided on a difficulty rating and you roll to succeed or failI feel like the "rules" prevent you from using actual strategy and instead force you do only move, melee, charge, shoot, etc. but you can not do any actually cunning plan like real soldiers would have What do you guys think?
>>96943295OG wargames had referees so not that out there as an idea. But really if you're playing a casual/narrative game and your friends aren't up for cool/stupid shit like that get better friends.
>>96942977Discrete, not discreet. Learn the vocabulary, practice the handshake, get the job, retire from the corner office, build a 4x8 hairy game table in the dining room.>>96943172>easy to assaultHe's building a turtle tank, you illiterate Mantic elf
>>96943329Not sure if bait or retarded. Discreet is the only one that makes sense in anon's message so it is likely he made a mistake typing. Masking tape can easily be torn into discrete pieces. It is however not discreet.>>96943049rude>>96943191Looks good anon
>>96943295This is how wargaming was always meant to be played, and is the true spirit of the game. The gay shit we have nowadays with lists and balanced teams all came from Warhammer. It's funny how all the anons ITT hate Warhammer but all of their games are derived from Warhammer and it's consequences. Wargaming has always been intended for having a referee/GM and having narrative/roleplaying elements
>>96943295Those banners are epic.
>>96943419yeah historical stuff generally is cooler than fantaslop
>>96943295>Have you tried not playing 5e: Wargaming Editionyeah what other anon said about the spirit of the game. Find people who have the same spirit.
Are these thread always squatted by trolls?
>>96943657Yes.
>>96943657Do you have any examples? This thread has been pretty tame so far, unless you consider anyone who disagrees/banters with you a "troll"
>>96943657Since day one. Eventually the mods mass ban them/delete their posts, and we get a few months of peace. It's current bad because the game released.
>>96943715>>96943724>>96943742>>96943657Now I know this thread is comprised of 40 and 50 year olds these meltdowns make way more sense
>>96943715Entire board seems that way now
>>96942623Repost your tank anon. I really liked it and I lost the photo.
>>96943762Entire website has become that way.
>>96943406I don't hate Warhammer, and I definitely don't think most people ITT hate 80's Warhammer. It's bad enough trying to rustle up someone for awg shit without needing a third with a specialized referee skill set, anyway.
>>96943657They've gotten markedly worse the past month or two
>>96938789Based and ‘Army of Darkness’-pilled
>>96939270>lot of fluff, much of it very metaFluff in wargaming is cheap and easy filler which is why shit companies like GW release 10+ books of 90% fluff for stuff like new Necromunda instead of one book with everything you need. Ironically the reverse is true in RPG’s where you don’t need points values to balance shit so people go wild with pages and pages of hot garbage, like FATAL on meth, thinking that more rules make game better.
>>96943406Warhammer use to have a referee, but that went out of fashion with tournament fags I believe.>>96943447Why not have both? I was thinking of adding this werewolf to my 100 years war army to use for oathmark and wrap king henry V's banner around its arm, like how knights might wear their lady's veil or cloth around their arm. Making a knightly werewolf force.
Shout out to Shardstone City on Kickstarter for making foldable flat-pack scenery STLs compatible with Mordheim, Frostgrave and Trench Crusade. Double shout out for it being well priced and coming with a commercial licence for anyone wanting to print and sell. Bought the late kickstarter a few days ago, looks great.
>>96943897You don't need a referee, you need a gentleman's agreement. That's only farfetched sounding because of the state of wargaming.
>>96944080I printed one the other day. It came out well. I was dubious about how well it would fold without a hinge, but it worked. I'm still a little dubious about us reusability. But it looks pretty nice. Wish the files were a little more generic with less skulls.
Warzone Eternal is already putting out new stuff. Seems to be a positive of switching to the Snaptray thing is they can skip the mold making step.
>>96944078Sounds fun, maybe you could hang some tiny crosses from his horns too
>>96939205> Neopuritanism is DEAD> Meanwhile, zoomers cry and shit their pants if there is a sex scene in a rated R movie ??????????????
>>96943657Pretty much, quiet enough you can see the same few of retards begging for (You)s across /awg/ and /hwg/ on the same few subjects
>>96941205Siocast is shit but you are out of your fucking mind if you don't think unicool is excellent
>>96944128Awesome update to the screaming mimi. Bullshit animu turn for dr. Diana. The new atillas aren't as good as the old ones either.
>>96944231I'd say its less animu-fication, and more weirdly 50's retro. And not 50's retro sci-fi, just 50's in general.
>>96944190Disregard those that can't write a paragraph.
>>96941062These look good, but I've painted enough Scafford gang and snakemen for SoBS to know that tentacle legs are fucking hell.
>>96944128OG Warzone player here, is Eternal worth digging out my old Demnogonis Necromutants and Razides for?
>>96944551The core rules are a mix of 1st edition and Dark Age, the sci-fi mini game CMON killed. Which makes sense, since its the same designer for Dark Age and Eternal, and he was influenced by WZ 1st Ed. It's not quite the same, since there's no squads and equipment is built into the profile.Right now, the only Dark Legion is Ageroth. The others have been teased, but they might be a ways out, it it survives that long. I'd really like to see their take on Dark Templars.
>>96944231If it has heavy 3D elements on the face, it's not anime. Anime has painted on details, the rolled sausage eyebrows and puckered lips you get on any given 3d model are the polar opposite.
>>96942408I kind of agree on too much detail. The real problem with GW is ALL the detail. If everything is special, nothing is. They need to go back to the majority of purity seals, pouches and such being extra bits that you glue on rather than part of the base model.
>>96944177Not a bad idea.
>>96944605Thanks anon. I always loved WZ and it was the only system I ever felt compelled to play the ‘bad guys’ in. I lost my books somewhere between 1996 and 2000 due to house fires, imploding relationships and interstate moves and I really miss them. Might have to start cruising eBay.
>>96944782I'm sorry to hear that, anon. Not the same, but you can go here to read them while you hunt down physical copies:https://www.mutantpedia.com/eng/Warzone.html
>>96944923You are a good person and I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise.
>>96944551>>96944605Oh, I did forget there is some customization. There are lists of assets that you can spend some points on to upgrade your troops. Nothing crazy, but a few generic upgrades like extra kit to decrease your chance of crit failing, some corp specific things, like a once per game air strike for Capitol or improved networking for Cybertronic, and some Dark Legion stuff for all of them and Algeroth specifically.
anyone know any ratmen minis that both look decent and arnt just trying to be skaven? Like, ratmen who arnt just all insane mad scientist sociopaths. The closest I could find is the OPR ratmen, but Im curious if there are alternatives.
>>96944936I know there's a good number of Warzone fans from back in the day that lurked /tg/, so I try hard to keep the thread up on Eternal's updates for them. I need to order from Trenchworx myself to see how the new stuff came out. I know the KS came out well, but I was poor at the time and missed it.
Anybody here work with wargames Atlantic minis? Do their infantry stuff generally fit on 25mm beveled bases?
>>96942378> Senpai posted my mini...I got it in one of Archon's kickstarters.I think this is how you can get it now https://archon-studio.com/shop/products/dungeons-lasers/woodland-dwellers
>>96945160The historical stuff definitely, I think that's what they come with. Death Fields and maybe some other things are 32mm but it looks like they still fit.
>>96945051check the burrows and badgers stuff by oathsworn
>>96945160Grognards work on 25mm without issues. I have some Raumjager in the mail I can test as well.
>>96945051>anyone know any ratmen minis that both look decent and arnt just trying to be skaven? Like, ratmen who arnt just all insane mad scientist sociopaths. The closest I could find is the OPR ratmen, but Im curious if there are alternatives.Look for "were-rats" and "ratmen". Ral Partha, Grenadier, and Reaper all have a few.
>>96943114I actually start to think that the guy responsible for the Dragon Rampant's cover either started to enhance his artworks with AI or his artwork was heavily used by AI engines during the learning process. Now that I go through Alan Lathwell's portfolio, he always had this weird style - even over a decade ago. Pic related is his oil painting with "digital after effects" added, according to his own notes.
>>96945887Here on the other hand is the original. I went through his portfolio and found multiple artworks with silly mistakes like missing fingers and swords being held by their crossguard but these are as old as 2007. I only learnt now he is the guy behind Oathmark box cover art for the spooky units.
>>96945887>>96945904Very unfortunate for the man to have a style that cleaves so close to AI slop in this day and age. Liked his oathmark art, but the pictures in dragon rampant are relentlessly mediocre.
>>96942827Who is the target audience for this shit ?
>>96946061Me, I'm ready for AMA.
>>96942827God their halfling range looks trash. Mantic's designs are always hit-or-miss, but the entire halfling range is a deep miss.
>>96944628Choose a cloth/leather colour that is not distracting from your chosen primary colour, and shut up and paint the pouches.Armies and squads look better with some nod towards verisimilitude like spare mags or rations pouches. This only becomes a visual business problem if they are painted to draw too much attention.Anyone wearing a fancy breastplate, who isn't the regiment champion, is getting a one-colour breastplate. Same for accessories - all the belt paraphernalia is getting the same cloth colour and a single highlight pass.
>>96945051Hedgerows and Heroes have a few ratmen
>>96943295You have the same problem in RPG: from 3.5ed D&D is full of special attacks, so players look at their character sheet and say "I use X" instead of using their imagination. Slowly starts being the norm. Nowaday there's a niche movement of going back to tradition but when new players look at the old freeform way they think "wow this sucks there's no other options than one single attack button". If you tell them they just have to describe whatever they're trying to do it's like you kicked their clutches.
>>96944078>French expedition.-Beast of Gevaudan: johnknifton.com/2014/09/04/the-beast-of-gevaudan-a-real-monster/-Beast of Lyonnais, with an inside article links to the Beast of Benais, the Beast of Auxerre, the Beast of Cevennes, the Beast of Sarlat: https://johnknifton.com/tag/meyzieu-the-beast-of-sarlat/
>>96930549The larger they are they larger their armour is, therefore it's perfect for visual aid.>>96930859I thought he looked like the Norf FC meme.>>96930831>Oathmark is iron age alt historyIt is not an alternate history iron age. It is it's own world. You're just making shit up.
>>96946326>from 3.5ed D&D is full of special attacks>3.5 invented the 80s high crunch squillions of options and rules RPGWhat is this nonsense boy?
>>96942954>>96942623Man, those are amazing. Their like some Ghibli spaceship, I love them.>>96942959>UK is on the verge of collapseScarily accurate, we're verging on Whiermar Republic levels of economic collapse thanks to Labour/Rachel Reeves utterly catastrophic levels of economy damaging decisions. And, you know, funding every Abdul, Tyrone, and Ubomga who comes across on the boars.
>>96946570I won't expand because it's off topic but it's mostly your own reading comprehension at works here. You can keep coming with gotchas but it means you ever failed to understand the market or what is being discussed here.I'm sorry you couldn't stop yourself from posting for 5 seconds to really think if being the most popular RPG of all time would have an impact or not on the topic.
>>96945887>>96945904He very obviously just upped the contrast in post. You AI fags are so pathetic
>>96946828>You AI fags are so patheticLook at pic related and tell me it doesn't reek of AI slop.
>>96946842Looks like the kind of art you'd find on Magic Cards decades ago
>>96946828Well, that's what pains me the most. We have a special kind of anti-AI luddite on /hwg/ & /awg/ that has been shitting on two games already for using AI whereas it was not true at all.In both case this anon didn't come forth to say he was sorry for so easily dismissing the hard work, name and sales of author, illustator and publisher on his false accusations so I do know he will keep going on with his bullshit.
>>96946873nta but if you're referring to Pillage I don't know what's worse, the rulebook using shitty ai fantasy illustrations or those shitty fantasy illustrations not being AI
>>96946842It's called digital art you absolute idiot. Go on Youtube and check any random "wacom" video before ever addressing this topic again.
>>96946883Yes, I'm talking about you driving yourself absolutely batshit crazy over Pillage to the point you openly stated even the rules were written by AI since the drawings were. When it was proven the illustrations were not AI you found BS excuses to not be sorry and shift the blame.Now you've been screaming AI over Dragon Rampant 2 for a few days, a solid anon took on him to go for a deep dive and proved it was once again not AI. Then, oh! Surprise surprise... you just found BS excuses to not be sorry and shift the blame once again.I can see a pattern here so either we talk openly about it now and you give it a good hard look, or it's going to be rince & repeat for a fucking longass boring time.
>>96946613So should I buy the minis I want from the UK sooner rather than later?
>>96946161The problem with gw minis is that they are cluttered with all kinds of unnecessary CAD enabled greebles that are painting them a nightmare. Every flat space has some icon or seal or chain or other bit of unnecessary detail added on, and it makes painting a nightmare. Don't get me wrong, baggage and gear that makes sense is fine, but there's a world between those and 40 different nonsensical bits.
>>96946969I can't say mate. Might be worth it, or worth waiting for Labour to finish making the pound worth less than a yen.
>>96946921if you're mentally ill enough to think everyone else on 4chan is the same person what's the point in posting with them?and if you're going to pretend to be the mature adult in a thread here at least do me the favour of not being an enormous cunt at the same time you hypocrital sack of shit
>>96942827I wish mantic still had its original pricing philosophy.There's a LOT of kit I'd get (mainly a shitton of artillery and a few larger constructs) but they now charge GW tier prices (which are two to four times the max ceiling I put on my miniatures) Especially for plastic...And for some reason Mantic still doesn't have an healthy 2nd hand market where deals are to be readily found.
>>96946842It's definitely not my favourite kind of artbut anon, it looks like it's the kinda thing AI was trained on.
>>96947027>My ad hominem will show them
>>96945051Alternative Armies has... scotish rats riding yaks for Slaughterloo.
What was your last game like /awg/? I was again playing Xenos rampant with my son. Need to buy some tablecloth for a more aesthetic gaming floor.I've also a question about italeri scenery - they sell 1/72 scale plastic bunkers, at least one such model is marketed as compatible with bolt action, a line of models in 28mm, or 1/56(?) scale. Has anyone here bought these kits and if so, what was your opinion about their quality and compatibility with 28mm scale miniatures?
>>96946824Given your crying about returning to tradition, it's painfully obvious that you went to /osrg/ once and now want to kvetch about 3.5 being the downfall of D&D civilisation. 3.5 did not invent the phenomenon of idiots playing their sheet, nor did it popularise it. The problem was already present with people who played Wizard or Cleric and responded to everything by looking at their spell list, and expanded to other classes with 2e's proliferation of supplements giving them more buttons to push.In the latter realm, D&D was always a follower, and the 80s was full of complex RPGs that would attempt to give you rules for everything which nudges players away from doing things that aren't covered.If you really wanted to you could pull that back to Melee and Wizard in the 70s, being board games with an explicit list of actions that then have an RPG plopped on top of them.The complex RPG with carefully enumerated options and the loose RPG where you can try whatever you want have always coexisted, the ratio just goes back and forth. This is unlike wargames, where narrative actions not in the rules went away and never really came back.
>>969486771/72 fits ok with Hotwheels, I can't see it working out with 28mm. Maaaaybe something amorphous like a bunker, it's probably cheap to experiment with anyway
>>96948750My dude it's off topic and your very first sentence is wrong (crying about tradition when I didn't even bother to capitalize the T) so I'm not gonna bother reading your shit. I encourage you to let it go: maybe somewhere in your blogpost you made some good points so I'm going to concede you were right and I was very wrong. Now focus on /awg/ material please.
>>96946363Whats with the french and having a beast of everything?
>>96947469THe only thing that matters is the Homō
>>96947469I'm not interested in your debate club faggotry even then it's not le epin logical fallacy if it's trueI am not the anon you're obsessed by you stupid faggot, hopefully that makes it through your spongy tard skull this time
>>96948677Anything 1/72 is going to look very small next to 28mm stuff honestly. If youre looking for affordable bunkers and stuff Id look into mdf desu, its come a fair way and some of the kits from ttcombat etc are really nice now
