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Bitter Blossom Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>96932261

>TQ
When will M:TG be dead and buried?
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Ever find it interesting how UB cards in Standard are now allowed to be stronger than Modern Horizons cards?
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>>96946303
> "what's that? people are complaining about all the strong and powerful cards that we're putting in all the straight-to-modern sets? Alright, no more modern sets. put all the broken shit in Standard now."
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>every single one of the Limited streamers I like to watch has been playing cube
I just want to watch some booster drafts of real sets
even the Standard streamers have been streaming cube
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>>96946342
Why watch when you can draft them yourself? Go to Xmage or Tabletop Simulator and draft some sets
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man so many stores have gotten out of selling mtg singles this is getting kind of crazy. wotc spent decades building up this ecosystem and now it's tearing it all down to become some cross between the pokemon tcg and weiss schwarz.
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>>96946661
>man so many stores have gotten out of selling mtg singles this is getting kind of crazy
My LGS doesn't even run Magic events anymore. They used to run prerelease but the owner recently mentioned that with Spiderman, he just can't take on the risk of running prereleases and having them fail.

A healthy, sustainable juggernaut of high-brand-loyalty market value has been sacrificed at the altar of Amazon quickbux and FOMO scam artistry.
It would be tragic, if it was not intentional and motivated by rapacious greed.
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>>96946661
>wotc spent decades building up this ecosystem
They didn't build shit. That's why they are not reacting to it crumbling because they have no fucking idea what was there. It's the same with video game properties being mishandled.

Only this year they started to bribe stores with a booster box if they release their shopify sales data. This year. That means for the past 30+ years they have no fucking idea how cards are being sold and resold. Of course, when they have this data they will realize they need a taste and will start reprinting cards except the game is totally fucking dead and all they're going to see is $1500 Tifa promos selling and realize they need more of that shit.

Like it makes sense why they keep reprinting the same stupid fucking legends as promos over and over because they have no fucking idea if they are being played or sold.
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>>96946693
>They didn't build shit.
Literally fuck off, you retard. WotC did an incredible job of being THE SINGULAR keystone to LGS culture throughout the 90s and 00s. You are simply and completely fucking wrong.
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>>96946700
What the fuck did they build in the ecosystem? They just shit out product and measured the dollars. I don't know about D&D but Wizards employees are not allowed to participate in sanctioned Magic events, which means they don't walk into a store and have any idea what the fuck is going on. They pulled regional store reps 20 years ago and those guys were just phone calls before that.

Every fucking thing inside the Magic community was built by someone other than Wizards. The fucking Pro Tour wouldn't even be possible without Judges led by king dickrider who also gave Wizards EDH. The onus is on you to tell us what the fuck Wizards built in the community, when the fuck did Wizards do anything for anybody in the store that didn't involve a cash transaction?

Do you remember the shitshow that was the Helvault? How they fucking lied to us about how the premium ones were randomly sent to stores when in reality they were sent to big fucking stores in California and Seattle? Half of Standard quit right then at my store because nobody could fucking trust them ever again and because Avacyn was such a baffling shit set.
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>>96946303
Set power levels have been irrelevant forever because everything is designed for Commander, which is Vintage in power level. Nadu and Vivi were designed with Commander in mind for reference.
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Is this game beyond salvation? Can Lorwyn heal what UB killed?
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>>96947068
You already know it's too late for anything to save this game
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>>96947068
lorwyn will be cool and all but… look at this and tell me there is any hope left.
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>>96946889
Only if you're a filthy commander fag. Pre-covid I was still playing lots of draft, and standard, and pioneer was my primary format.
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>>96947090
>Pre-covid
anon ... pre covid was 6 years ago ... that's literally forever
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>>96947119
Maybe if you're like, 19
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>>96947068
No.
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>>96946733
>What the fuck did they build in the ecosystem?
Please describe how you think dozens of people showing up to a game store on a weekly basis, driven exclusively by WotC's efforts to establish a healthy culture for its players, would somehow not qualify as an answer to this question.
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What are your hopes for tribal with the new lorwyn set? I only hope for some cool shapeshifters that I can add to my zombie deck :(
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>>96946342
You are a homosexual
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>>96947434
read the rest of his post instead of gish-galloping and moving the goalposts, numbnuts.
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>>96947555
A nuclear bomb to hit hasbro headquarters the second after the last packs hit the shelves.
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Hopes and dreams for TMNT, anons? We are over Avatar and is the next UB set on the pipeline just after Lorwyn.
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>>96947965
if they don't ban kaito, I think it's very likely we'll have enough support to make dimir ninjas a tier 1 deck
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>>96947965
Hoping maro dies in a car crashing, dreaming about a worldwide economic crash that has hasbro top execs plummeting from a skyscraper after checking the stock market
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>>96947771
>read the rest
When your opening claim is patently retarded, no amount of supporting arguments will change it.
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>>96947965
What is there going to be that even has a shot at fitting with actual magic cards? I guess some equipment, maybe. They fight humans, right? Are there any magical creatures that aren't named characters?
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>>96946303
That's an old Modern Horizon card. The newer one is much better.
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>>96948004
>emblem on +1
what were they thinking
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How do I stop myself from wanting to be Liliana's mindless zombie husk? She hasn't been in a set for too long and I miss her, they don't make the goth waifus like they used to.
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>>96948290
>he thinks they actually think about the slop that gets churned out for coommander
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I miss when Magic was fun.
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>>96946342
set draft is mostly dead. cube is on mtgo half the year, but there are only six or so standard draftable sets per year and they are only worth drafting for the first week. now they are exporting this concept to arena (which is not mtg but reminds us of it) to erode draft even further. there are also the structural changes to set design with the bonus sheet and massive changes to the design skeleton that make set mechanics and thematic identity irrelevant.

the point is to make all magic the same regardless of the format so you can never escape and imagine a better way to play
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>>96948673
>they are only worth drafting for the first week
can you explain this further, I don't play mtgo
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>>96947965
I wish the exec who thought this was a good idea get some really fucked up STD.

And the set to crash harder than Spooderman shit.
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>>96946661
wizards has been fighting the war on singles since 2013 at least. their reprint attack wasn't effective enough so they amped it up and made the complete back catalog obsolete and started printing new incompatible cards. wizards has already reclaimed a lot of the previously sold value held in now hollowed out LGS collections.
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>>96948701
card prices fall off the cliff once manatraders and cardhoarders get enough playsets to rent out, which they do before the first weekend the set is out. after this the return on drafting is so poor that the player pool evaporates, so even if you were willing to pay out the nose the experience is still bad with a lot of waiting. I don't play at the LGS but it doesn't sound any better in paper; lots of shops can't fire drafts anymore
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Rate my cat aggro deck. Its been pretty good in unranked.
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>>96947119
>covid was 20 years ago
I don't feel so good
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>>96947068
Given that coomander players are fighting tooth and nail against Lorwyn and trying to ensure it bombs, no.
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>>96948290
As usual, they weren't.
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/i-opened-2-900-of-avatar-collector-boosters
Would you do the same, anon?
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>>96948882
This shit infuriates me the most because coomander players are going to bullshit protest one of the few real sets of 2026, because their fake format might become slightly closer to the real game in a way that doesn't matter, and their autism can't handle it. It's just going to validate WotC's belief that in-universe sets aren't worthwhile and Lorwyn wasn't worth releasing with all the extra work it took.
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>>96949050
T is game is so cooked is unreal and all thanks to the Cummander Crew.
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>>96948290
>Well we did it that one time with the 6-mana Chandra and people loved it (they didn't)
>So clearly we can halve the manacost and make the emblem better and give the planeswalker hexproof
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>>96949003
>HEYYYYYYYY everyone it's Piggyslop Pigslopperton better known as SsaAAAFFRON Olive here today with the new Double XL Piggie Slop Trough I purchased on sale from Amazon with same day delivery!
>And before we get into things, I'd like to give out a huuuhhhhhhyuUUUUUGE shoutout to today's sponser, this incredible grassroots company named Phizer.
>So today we're going to celebrating the new Brand Name Pharmaceuticals Secret Lair by filling this slop trough with FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS worth of cardboard.
>And as part of this Universes Beyond sponsorship deal, you all already know these amazing cards come coated with the life changing skin-contact Phizer vaccine technology. So you can get your safe and effective vaccine, without having the ouchie. But do be warned, you do not get the free singular individually wrapped "Vaccine Bonus Reward" jelly bean if you decide to go this route. That is only available if you go to your Local Injection Site, and purchase the product there.
>So today we're really hoping to crack, you guessted... Uuuahhhh Premium Serialzied Foil "Anthony Fauci"
>With that all said, LlleeeEEEHHHTS just dump these collector boxes into the trough aaaaaAAANAD get right into it!
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NO VALUE TO THE SLOP hahahahaha these boxes are going to plummet
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>>96949553
yikes
I am importing from Japan , as prices there are stupidly low
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>>96949553
NOT AGAIN!!!
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>>96949553
>IT ALL KEEPS TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN!
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>>96949553
A curious creature.
The pig feasts, yet still is hungry.
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>>96949553
Crazy that not even a single box was within even a hundred dollars of breaking even.
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>>96949619
>if only you knew how bad things really are
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>>96946342
the game is healing
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>>96947068
give me a single reason why/how one good set could unfuck a years worth of shit
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>>96949645
>give me a single reason why/how one good set could unfuck a years worth of shit
It's kind of like how the best part of giving someone a Rusty Trombone is that they get to orgasm.
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>>96948290
the same as with the chandra plus emblem
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>>96948882
Why would commander players fight against Lorwyn? I play commander, go to drafts... and I loved the old set, it was perfect for tribal decks, giants, elves, goblins, faeries... there was great mechanic, persist and wither, it will work miraculously in commander decks using proliferate, or lead by Maha or Massacre girl, I imagine.
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>>96949699
Because they think Lorwyn is causing WotC to conspire to change the hybrid mana rule.
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>>96946342
I would argue that cube is more 'real' Magic than Through the Omenpaths.
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>>96949727
Eh, it's casual format, nothing is stopping them to discuss in their playgroup and decide how they want to approach the hybrid mana. The next set, Strixhaven, is full of split mana cards too, like Blade Historian.
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>>96949835
Don't tell that to Coomander players which are planning to boycott Lorwyn if the hybrid mana change goes through.
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Am I crazy or is this going to be really good
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>>96949876
>Christmas hand = GOOD RESULT???
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>>96949887
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>>96949907
Meant for >>96949876
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Rgw9_Ub1g
new aids (ranting about the state of the game rather than piloting a domain pile yet again)
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>>96949887
I don't think it's *that* Christmas-y, it's just 3 spells on t3 and you can surely run Opts in this list to help you get there. also Turn Inside Out can sub in for the Full Bore albeit it's usually worse
>>96949907
this is a good hit, too, and so would be other draw spells like Marang's omen mode which could serve as a backup if you need to Quench some removal. idk i'm definitely spamming Jeskai Firebending Student when the set releases
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>>96949925
Buy an ad
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>>96949887
It's not Christmas Land when a piece has 36 redundant copies in the format.
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>>96949876
bro, just kill them lmao fuck all that abstract shit



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