Previous: >>96967866>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat mechanics/keywords do you wish they would print more of?
Please answer my question >>96976044>>96976080>What mechanics/keywords do you wish they would print more of?Exalted.
>>96976080>TQCasualty. Unfortunately it only has two decent cards.
>>96976080Is there some sort of dumb or worthless cantrip or instant/sorcery that you can continuously play from the gy? Something like Squee the immortal but as a non permanent of any kind. I just want some sort of 1 mana spell I can play with every turn.
>>96976080>What mechanics/keywords do you wish they would print more of?Radiation
I got my Seizan deck built. Now time to test it out. I have no idea how it will do or what it needs. It's got high mana cost for sure.https://archidekt.com/decks/17401145/seizan_gain_and_pain
>>96976093> winconSorry sweaty you are looking for /cedhg/
>>96976101Stuff with Escape is probably the closest you can get.
>>96976132I mean I know escape and flashback and a plethora of abilities that let you play the spell again for alternative costs. But the only thing I'm looking for is a way to play the same non permanent every turn, ideally cheaper the better. I want something like I can use to abuse stuff like benders water skin.
>>96976147Whim of Volrath with Memory Crystal out? Stuff like this doesn't really exist because it would be so easy to abuse.
Is Kraven finally the commander Chevillechuds were dreaming of?
which guy for artifacts?
>>96976080I know who I'm building next guys.
I feel like an idiot for just now realizing this since she comes with Haunted One, but this could be a lot of fun with backgrounds.
>>96976178He can't keep getting away with it!!!
Who would work best for a monored flying men deck?>Grenzo+ Cheapest cost, can double as a goad commander in a pinch, red has awful flying men so he can lean into goblin tribal- His impulse is theft which makes things a little awkward>Rose+ Offers impulse and ramp in one, which doesn't need to be cracked right away- Max of three junks each turn so a super wide board doesn't translate to super card advantage, also this character is awful lorewise>Smellerbee+ Haste enabler, wheel-draw means actual cards in hand- Smellerbee (what a retarded name) needs to actually attack and he's just a 3/3>Duchess- Holy shit she sucks so bad
>>96976241>she
>>96976265I only play video games that are on the PS2, so I'm not familiar with the character. Is it actually a man or just a joke about the muscles and general lack of femininity?
>>96976273It’s canonically a tranny
>>96976275Sure she is.
>>96976101the only thing I can think about is constantly paying for the soulfire grand master ability
>>96976101if you have feather out, you can just recycle a buff spell every turn
>>96976275Oh, that's a shame. I play with some really performative people and if Abby's my commander I'll have to hear a bunch of shit about it being "empowering" and all those other buzzwords. I'll have to do some thinking to decide if the card is mechanically interesting enough to be worth that. I wonder if this is how UB haters feel when they see a card with a fun effect.
>>96976290He's memeing btw
>>96976287I made a feather deck cuz I just love the idea of using the same cantrip every turn for draws. I just don't have much of a game winner other than aria.
APPROVED UB:>Tarkir: Dragonstorm>Bloomburrow>FoundationsUNAPPROVED UB:>Aetherdrift>Edge of Eternities>Duskmourn
>>96976255Grenzo. If your only issue is using other people's cards then you have no issue.
>>96976319is stacking buff spells in your hand every turn and then just going all out with some sort of damage copying effect not good enough?
https://moxfield.com/decks/-qyjxOjzm0ObMsMHMqyp3gmy initial attempt, seems too light on ramp?
>>96976327umm.. define "UB"?
Someone played this with X=0 the other night and said it's some of the best mono-white draw available :\
>>96976525i don't believe you.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96976511UW but black
>>96976207Are you feeling white or black?
>>96976194I do kind of want to make Kraven. I wouldn't even include that guy in the 99> doesnt do the thing until your next upkeepYikes/cringe
>>96976217Whomst've?
>>96976080>TQBlitz, Casualty, Connive
>>96976589Holy based
>>96976207I love medicant core cuz he's cheap and you can pump him out early to get the speed count going in the beginning. Later on you can copy big stuff with just a minimum set up.
>>96976101I like this one
>>96976611Huh that's not bad
>>96976611Hey so you just pitch a land for extra cost AND it DOESN'T exile after use? So you can do this as long as you have land to pitch? That's pretty cool.
>>96976327The fact we have had exactly one real fantasy magic set in the last full calendar year is insane. What the fuck happened to this game?
>>96976616retrace is a fun mechanic. This is my favourite one. Bonus points because it's a sorcery that does literally nothing when it resolves.
>>96976550It was a game of PreDH :^)
>>96976255Smellerbee is a girl.
>>96976080>TQMeld. It's such a dumb inconsistent mechanic in a 100 card singleton format but it's cool trying to fuse the pieces and flipping to one big oversized card. Think it would be cool to see how they'd revisit and explore the idea more.
>>96976735I once melded mishra and it immediately aggroed the entire table. Mishra was the only threat i had on board but i guess the fact i pulled off a meld offended the sweatier cedh dropouts because they then focused me out of the game the next 2 turn rotation.
>>96976630Never thought about that this is an empty sorcery with just a cast trigger
I thought maybe this printing was cheap or something when I bought it for a dollar but it's actually more expensive than the urza destiny's version? guess I got a great deal
>>96976630Oh damn I need this in my Erinis deck.
>>96976749>cedh dropouts >can't handle a creature with no protection I think the dropout here is you
>>96976749>make a super strong, aggressive threat>people kill it/you>HURRR CEDH DROPOUTSyou're a faggot.
>>96976794>super strong, aggressive threatJust because there is a lot of text on his fusion monster doesn't make it good
>>96976786>>96976794man you always respond fast with the same kinda strawmans.feels like a nerve got touched.
>>96976101Things with buyback or the cards that suspend themselves for a few turnsare close
>>96976749Checks out. Always seems like when the meld finally happens you're either in a position where you're pretty much winning anyway so the meld didn't matter or you're effectively already lost and the meld was more of a for fun play before being taken out. Both cases it doesn't really matter. I'd like to see more of these just for the fun of playing big card and see how they can play with the theme.
What cards should i look for to make a thematic but preferably not overly oppressive Nicol Bolas deck? I'm absolutely including Cruel Entertainment, for example.
>>96976837yeah, too often one half of the meld card sucks, or it costs 5+ mana to meld to a mediocre creature with no protection.I think Urza's like the only one that can kinda, sorta, maybe swing a game. Maybe Brisela even further down the line.
Got a Sakura-Tribe Elder, Naya Charm, Farseek, and Cultivate on their way to slot in, but I feel like I'm building all ramp that doesn't have a payoff yet.I'd like to peak at Bracket 3 at best, and maybe do something stupid like Polyraptor and Marauding Raptor for a somewhat auto-win condition.Any suggestions? >Evolving Adapative and Magebane Lizard are non-negotiable, I love my little dudes.https://moxfield.com/decks/AII-0dD1gkan4n4XmYIg7Q
>>96976840I mean, Nicol Bolas is one of the few characters where you can just play a ton of cards with his face in the artwork. He even has basic lands. And if that isn't enough, you can also include Ugin adjacent cards. I don't think my list is very thematic, but it does play a few cards more for flavour reasons than gameplay. It's also pretty clunky, but you have to accept that when playing Nicol Bolas.https://moxfield.com/decks/8pMt9I8wCU-bAboJStZdWQ
>>96976840Step 1: Become homosexual
Ya Im most excited for this. Why yes I enjoy artifact tokens, how did you know
So since static unconditional Flashback (during your turn) is solidly at 6-mana between picrel and the temur Iroh, how much would static unconditional Jump-start cost in the current era?
>>96976920Hideous card and you type like a predditor lol. The absolute state of UBfags.
>stars align and you kill another player on turn 4ok and then what? seems too fair
>>96976902Nice to see a more spell slinging focused deck than the usual planeswalkers/discard. I'll go through the whole list thoroughly when I find the time.>>96976918Way ahead of you. Did you have anything to actually contribute?
>>96976931Malding.This print is better, but truthfully Im ambivalent about the art. I just want to make tokens
https://youtu.be/3YOc1JNaUPg?si=mi79KdbhBNX42ONCThreadly reminder that Avatar is approved UB.
>>96976803>9/9>three abilities per attack AND when you play it>no one would ever attack and be aggressive with such a creature>oh my GOD is that... I-IS THAT A COUNTERATTACK???>CEDH DROP OUT!!!>>96976812>quoting your own retarded comment>strawmanyou said cedh dropout in your whinepost. you are still a faggot.
>>96977124yeah bud, strawman you make wild assumptions and put words in people's mouths whenever they say anything about cedh or brackets.it's poor bait or you got triggered. you may pick all that apply.
>>96977138>I made Meld Mishra and aggro'd the tableyou said this>Mishra was my only threat (smol bean) you said this>i offended the sweaty cedh dropoutsyou said this>i died after 2 full turn rotationsyou also said thisSo please tell me which part about my post is a strawman. It's all pretty accurate. You made a big, scary creature with Discard, Burn, Removal, Keyword Soup, A weaker Board Wipe, and even token generation (and you get to pick 3 each time you attack AND when you played him) while haivng the option to target various different players and their things with said abilities stapled to him. Oh and he's a 9/9 who is directly encouraged to attack (and give himself Trample/Menace if you feel like it).I repeat, you are a whiny faggot. Make a big fuckin' beatstick, get targeted. Go back to goldfishing if you hate interaction.
>>96976852Meld Titania has worked well for me
>>96977156>So please tell me which part about my post is a strawmanall of it. you keep making wild assumptions, know nothing of the board state or interactions that followed and clearly don't care to find out.But because I played one half threatening creature, I ... what, am immune to being ganged up on or being the lesser threat at the table? I must be the salty bitch because I managed to make a meld off of an attack trigger?Like your bait is so bad I can't even figure out what you are trying to say.
>>96977206Are you being intentionally retarded? You're the one whining that you were killed for playing Mishra. You included how it was your "only" threat to try and make yourself seem like some kind of victim. You played a threat that affected and could effect everyone but you decided to bitch and moan instead of turning it into a winning position. You're not even responding to the point, I'm literally quoting your own story and you're calling it a strawman, did you make it up?
>>96977217>make yourself seem like some kind of victimstrawmanYou played a threat that affected and could effect everyone but you decided to bitch and moan instead of turning it into a winning positionstrawman.you are genuinely really bad at this.
>>96977223>utterly and completely refuses to engage at allSo the story is made up and you're ragebaiting? Jesus, find something better to do on a thursday morning.
>>96977230aww poor baby, your strawmanning didn't work!Just gunna kick rocks and run away because I didn't take the bait?You are awful at trolling.
>hey anon, do you need a token ?
>>96977277>doesn't show P/T
>>96976559https://youtu.be/ftMjuj1qIoYI want to loop Hearthfire Hero.It won't be good, but it'll be funny, and that's all that matters.
>>96977282I prefer that actually, because there's so many P/T differences.
>>96976080More extort
>>96977323>It won't be good, but it'll be funny, and that's all that mattersThe mentality that is killing magic
>>96976627Designers are bored so instead of resigning they are fundamentally changing the game
>>96977277Hell yeah
>>96977326All the more reason to use the proper tokens. For insects it's more a matter of does it have flying/deathtouch or not though.
>>96977336commander cares about fun over good, you might have missed that memo.
>>96977336Take it up with wotc, they made our shitty, non-competitive meme format the face of the game for some reason.
>>96977366Yes anon, watching a grown man all excited to play his silly combination of cards is my definition of fun .
>>96977394competitive card games are a dime a dozen.
>>96977405So are competitive shooters but you dont see counter strike devolving into memes.It's 100% on designers.
>>96977404Same.Especially if that man is me.
>>96977404yeah? people enjoying their game is better than being a sweat lord and raging over it.>>96977411fortnight is one of the most popular games out there and its nothing but memes.
>>96977411No, but you see it with tf2. What is your point? Players can transform a game to something the devs didn't account for. Happened to Smash as well.
>>96977404A grown man playing a card game at all is cringe anon. If you're gonna be a manchild, may as well have fun doing it.
>>96977416>>96977417Mtg is/was waaaaay more CS than either of those cartoony games
>>96977422I don't know about that really. I guess in terms of mechanical execution, maybe.
>>96976080A lot of my moxfield decks suddenly became bracket 2.Then I saw that they no longer track tutors.Is this real?
>>96977432In terms of aesthetics, marketing and place in the genre too
>>96977469>using an automated tool to judge bracketsAbsolute brain rot, you know intent is crucial for at least 2 of the brackets if not all of them, right?
i have really cool black cards.such as:>author of shadows>puppeteer clique>vindictive lichlist goes on. with that said I would like to build picrel, is it big time salt inducing or based?
>>96977404I'll be honest I do like to see peoples combos go off in other peoples decks, it shows gumption
>>96977530I've played against a few and it's alright, really salted one guy up playing my clone deck and doing it better than him. Also folds to board wipes so depends how your meta is.
>>96976207Golbez is really fun if you like to kill people with non combat damage triggers. You can chunk people for like 20 if you recur a filigree attendant and there's a lot of neat underrated artifact in black. I'm still between building him and clue lazav however
>>96977394>for some reasonIt was because everyone had already abandoned standard and modern to play Commander because it turns out SHOCKER trying to competitively play a trading card game that constantly releases new cards for several different kinds of formats with no community testing and wildly varying degrees of design competency is both extremely unfun and a fucking retarded waste of time and energy. And that was before the player base has decided to turn into Gigafucks and make Magic their investing portfolio instead of buying real securities, ensuring that the few fence sitters who might have been interested in competitive formats walked away because they didn't feel like spending $300+ bucks to make a self piloting net deck that would be obsolete by the end of the year (if it didn't get fucking destroyed by a ban that is, hope nobody was waiting on their Vivi package last week!)
>>96976147>same non permanent every turnThere also the "pulse of the-" cycle of cards. Closest I can think of odd the top of my head
>>96976207Play both
>>96976525EDH babies are too dumb to play actual white card draw, simply because its not a spell that draws on itselfWhat does white do the best? A lot of small creatures. Are there white cards that let you draw when a small creature enters? Yes.Skullclamp, Idol of Oblivion, Rumor Gatherer, Welcoming Vampire, Chivalric AllianceOutside of that, play Trouble in Pairs, Esper Sentinel
>>96976749>choose 3 a turn>9/9Yes i wonder why you, who made himself the threat, was targeted.
>>96977323My three dogs uses hearthfire hero type creatures. Lots of fun.
>>96977776correctt. former modern player that quit at the right time (war of the spark)
>>96977776I just play stuff because it's fun. When I first started, I figured I wanted to just play standard. I IMMEDIATELY figured out standard made your cards go poof fairly often, so I then asked around about what formats let me keep using my cards. I was told modern or commander. Modern was an absolute hellscape and cost a kidney to play, so I settled on commander. So far I've had fun.
>>96977776>ensuring that the few fence sitters who might have been interested in competitive formats walked away because they didn't feel like spending $300+ bucks to make a self piloting net deck that would be obsolete by the end of the yearfor comparison, classic modern decks like tron and jund lasted roughly 8 years before FIRE design finally kicked them out of the meta
I want to make a deck that runs l dark confidant wannabesotag:wannabe-dark-confidant legal:commanderMaybe twilight prophet, few others. Probably dimir? So I can get duskmantle seer. I wanna kill people with parker luck
>>96977969Okay? What are you asking us you fucking retard
>>96976080Lotus Vale, Flagstones of Trokair and Land Tax effects for white. Its a fun minigame to have in a deck(keeping landcount low to ramp/draw) and an on-brand mechanic for white. Yet we'll never see it because in jotc's eyes green is the ONLY color allowed for land shenanigans.
>>96977776Man, what a way to go. I remember slowly building my modern UW control list over several years, using budget alternatives, slowly putting together the more expensive cards and trying to make sun titan work in the meantime. That's what modern is to me. RIP.
>>96977917>tron>deadMy "Lightning beats everyone to death" deck wants to speak to you.
>>96977970im not asking you anything cunt
>>96978025What is the purpose of your post then?
>>96977969nice blog, how do I unsubscribe?
>>96978018>UBTourist retardfag doesnt know basic game terminology
>>96978018it's dead anon
>>96977776I've unironically started playing premodernDespite being a format who's cardpool is fixed, it's still better than that fire hydrant of cards we get now. and who knows, maybe the premodern people will move the cutoff a few expansions down the line at some point.
>>96978037It's funny, I haven't seen Karn in ages. He definitely fucks the entire strat though.>>96978035>single creature getting buffed up>not tron
>>96978050do you even know why it's called tron
>>96976611Pretty dope card art and flavor wise.
>>96978052I am aware of the reference with what is basically the Megazord. Doesn't change the fact that the term tron generally refers to buffing up a single creature.
>>96977808>check on edh rec>there's no way this is correct>there are more people playing mentor of the meek than welcoming vampire>there are more people playing Mangara than welcoming vampire>skullclamp sees less play than welcoming vampirewew
>>96978060>I am aware of the reference with what is basically the Megazord.>Doesn't change the fact that the term tron generally refers to buffing up a single creature.
>>96977970>>96978032>Not an LGS green text>Not bracket bitching or doom posting>Anon is just talking about a deck ideaWhat happened in the last year to make these threads so autistic?
>>96978050>dumbass thinks tron is short for voltron>he also is unaware he is implying there is commander damage in modern fucking lol
>>96976939You die turn 5 because you get jumped
>>96978076OK boomer.>>96978084OK boomer, and this is edh not modern.
>>96978080Just try to add something to the conversation next time, friend.
>>96978090The subject of modern came up in an edh thread.Cry about it, or better, L2R.
>>96978075On my defense, I play anthems so skullclamp doesn't work.
>>96978098>On my defenseheh
>>96978080I never get the LGS stories at my LGS, and it's both a blessing and a curse.>everyone is polite>no one seethes>no wacky hijinks>employees are great people in general>no goofy meme rules for commander>no brackets besides "cedh or not">everyone is honest about their decks with no angle shooting bullshit
>>96976255You're the guy trying to make Coastal Piracy decks, I'd suggest pic related.Otherwise Grenzo.
>>96978060Anon, buffing a single creature is bogles. Tron is pic related. Urzatron.
>>96978060Why dont you just accept youre a tourist and learn instead of grandstanding like some ignorant faggot.
>guy in my table get Teferi to 14>no one does anything afraid he will board wipe them>he gets Teferi to 26 in that dance>everyone on the edge of their seats to see who he will wipe>does nothing>someone finally does something and win the game>guy never had intention of wipping and was just enjoying watching we struggle with itI found it funny but some in the table were upset he held the table hostage. What do you think?
>>96978125True, true. I even have her in the 99. Somehow I completely blanked on her as a potential commander.
>>96978154unsubscribe
>>96978104you're correct on your points except this part>no brackets besides "cedh or not"believe it or not it's in the LGS's best interest to implement brackets, make a wild guess why
>>96978154I don't mind that too much every once in a while. It's pretty funny.
>>96978225go be salty somewhere else
>>96978154I hate walkers but like that guy
>>96978228My LGS has no brackets besides "is it cedh." So far we haven't had an issue, since people are straightforward about their decks and sort themselves accordingly (e.g. the precons play together). Some of the fancier guys carry like 5 decks to adjust accordingly so they're not over/under powered.
>>96978140Again this is the edh general. Literally no one but super boomers call the urza lands tron lands.>>96978146OK boomer.
>>96978298This is such a funny post>we dont play with brackets we just all have decks of varying power level and communicate for a good experience
>>96978305Why would we not call them tron lands when within the context of magic thats what they are?
>>96978306Whats the issue
>>96976080>TQArcane and Splice onto Arcane. I just think they're neat.
>>96978314Because stuff like workshop and caves exist.
>>96978344NTA but that's what brackets are basically.
>>96978305>guys tron is such a boomer thing that edhrec doesn't have it as a tag, ok?>please i'm a retarded zoomer let me save face aaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeekekypow
>>96978355Nice non sequitur anon
>>96978344Thats literally the experience they bracket system intended to create. You just arent using wotcs terminology. No issue its just funny. Yes pods filled with people who are well socially adjusted is what wotc is trying to "enforce".
>>96978305Why wouldn't people call them what they are? They're individually weak lands that assemble into a titan of mana generation, the Voltrons of lands.>>96978355Urza's Workshop and Urza's Cave are both essentially Urzatron support pieces and riffs on the fundamental concept of those three lands.
>>96978305covid really did a number on you zoomers, didn't it?
>>96976255Grenzo misses the point of a flying men deck. The mix of impulse draw and theft means you can't draw into your primary wincons (pump spells) if the player you're targeting isn't running them, and you can't cast your wincons (pump spells) because combat is already over and you can't cast anything before combat the next turn.Subira Tulzidi Caravanner is the best option for the kind of deck you want. Smellerbee is a distant second. Rose isn't the kind of deck you want, but it's better than Smellerbee overall.
anyone playing pic related? I'm going through BRO looking for any cards I missed. It doesnt look great but I'm not sure.
>>96978427who says the primary wincon is pump spells?
If you play commander to be the guy with quirky random deck that wants everyone look at you having le fun why don't you climb up the table and stick a deckbox upon your ass? Everybody at the LGS will laugh with you .
>>96978468What quirky deck did you lose to anon?
>>96978436Its a bad skullclamp but skullclamp is one of the best cards ever printed so its good. You need sac outlets but youre in black so
>>96978474goad
>>96978489thats my analysis as well, have you actually tried it in the 99?That's really the feedback im looking for.
>>96978450Flying men decks win through extra turns, decking out, and overrun. With impulse theft you can't rely on your opponents running enough extra turn spells for you to be able to cast them consistently, thoracle is unreliable because you're restricted in your timing for casting it, labman is unreliable because it needs to live a turn cycle even if you grab it, and overruns are only available after combat.Extra combats could function like extra turns but they don't untap your lands, and Grenzo doesn't help you find them in your own deck so you're still hoping opponents are running them.
>>96978468
>>96978510You got a lot of overruns in mono blue lol? Here's a good example of a flying man deck in a highlander format. https://moxfield.com/decks/03nwbMiw_kuVPrfHsrpAyQits a tempo/control deck and as far as I know, always has been.
>>96978527Read the post I'm responding to. It's a mono-red flying men deck looking for a commander. It obviously can't run the mono-blue flying men wincons.
>>96978527>>96978527nor would it play at all similarly aside from combat drawthe commander selection is proof enough of that
I ordered the Terra precon and these cards.Is this a decent starting upgrade for the deck?
>>96978561So far yea. How much did you get the deck for?
>>9697857440€ including shipping, same as these cards actually
>>96978549>>96978535I would play grenzo for my flying men, turning flying men into an engine with prison effects, allowing you to accrue value off of your opponents and controlling the game. That's much closer to a real flying men deck. What you are describing is much closer to a blitz deck.
This is my three dogs budget deck. Its theme is Make-A-Bombhttps://archidekt.com/decks/15066898/three_dogs
>>96978576Not bad. Still think the panic buyer's when they first came out are retarded
If I tap an Gaea's Cradle enchanted with Wild Growth with no creatures, does it produce the one green mana?
>>96978468I prefer to be THE problem at my lgs.>go to lgs>play stuff like Zhulodok or First Sliver tribal>often have the entire table trying to gun for me first>sometimes I'm able to pull off a complete stomp if everything lines up rightIt's especially fun when I can get wacky shit like Gravemother sacing Legion or Zhulodok getting two titans out of his cascades.
>>96978627https://magicjudge.tumblr.com/post/71264631258/if-i-have-a-gaeas-cradle-enchanted-with-wild
>>96978627I dont see why not
>>96978632this is the ascended form of timmybased
>>96978627man that new art is ugly
>>96978636>>96978637Thanks.Looks like Xmage fucked me.
>>96978653is xmage automated now?
>>96978664What do you mean?
>>96978671When I used xmage waaaay back in the day, things like adding mana were done manually.
>>96978678There's an option to use mana automatically, but you still have to tap the lands for mana manually.
>tqEach player loses X life, each player sacrifices X creatures, each player discards X cards, each player sacrifices X lands. Casting Pox and Smallpox once or twice the same game sure does feel good when you’re this deliciously evil.
>>96978690pox and small pox are great but I prefer build-your-own pox.
It is hard to resist the urge to slot in big eldrazi to my various "cheat out a creature" decks
>theres a card named smeller bee in mtg nowthis is part of the problem with UB, inheriting mistakes from other companies. There's a certain level of mistakes you can expect from a single institution but it compounds the more that are involved.
>>96978734same, I even own a lot of them and end up throwing them in random decks. I need to stop doing that.
>>96978690>casting Smallpox in a format everyone runs mana rocks from turn 1>and Rhystic study Wow someone put this evil guy in a jail
>TQDonate and Wrong Turn effects. They're underrated in commander but too few and too overcosted to elevate donate decks above meme status.
>TQEpic, you know you want it.
>>96978736I find Adorkable Duo more offensive. This card could read "Flash (split second)- each opponent must pay you $10 or you win the game" and I still wouldn't run it. Worst card name of all time.
>>96976080>TQVillainous Choice is fun and I wish there were a lot more of them and more commanders that synergized with it.
>>96978802This set is going to be ass
>>96978805I'd love to see more of anything that forces choices. Watching opponents try to puzzle out what I'm planning is endlessly amusing. I'll never stop being disappointed toymaker isn't grixis. Having no access to red really cuts his balls off.
>>96978723Yes of course, but death cloud you only realistically cast once. I’ve tried to manage my graveyard to get deathcloud back with tasigur but it puts too much material in the graveyard to ever work it back out and no one will let you have it again. Smallpox I can get from politics almost and pox I can get back if I’m smart with my scav ooze.>>96978743The literal TQ is what do you want more of, but great idea. Give me a new pox card that includes artifacts and enchants, let’s go wild. At the end of the day you’re all just food for my worms anyway.
>>96978084Tron *is* short for Voltron dickhead. Yes, all those decks with Tron in the name are Voltron decks, just a different type of Voltron than what is now commonly used in EDH. That's literally why the tron lands are called tron lands.
>>96978879>it's just a different kind of voltron!yeah and *insert combo here* is just a different kind of voltron roru rumao
>>96978900Dumbass, you stated that tron is not short for voltron, which it quite literally is.
>>96978503Goad isnt even quirky, its just making players play the game instead of jerking off their board states until they reach combopletion
>>96978905>imagine white knighting for a retarded zoomer that got caught not knowing modern format lingo>imagine ACTUALLY being that retard that can't take an L and still wants to continue a dead topic in a vain attempt to save facebwahahahaha
>>96978918Stupid motherfucker, you sound like some faggot who picked up modern last week and now thinks they're a real mtg player. Post RC finishes or shut the fuck up.
>>96978924>hurr durr dox yourself!!bwahahahaa you are SO mad you got outed for being a moron
>>96978864It annoys me how good and interesting so many of the doctor who cards are for being stapled to a franchise I couldn't give less of a fuck about.
>>96978879>tron is short for voltronIt is quite literally not
>imagine running universe beyond cards in your deck>imagine playing with other players running universe beyond cards>imagine buying universe beyond products
>>96978976Why is urza tron called that then? The urza part is obvious but the tron part is clearly voltron, not to be confused with the edh strategy but both wee referencing the concept of assembling a bunch of piecesWhich is to say zoomtard got it half right on accident because he clearly was referencing lightning as tron
>>96978436It's "we have skullclamp at home" but playing it instead of SC makes you a Chad so
>>96978632Based. As long as everyone is having fun and is at a similar level, it's great to be the bad guy and force others to get good or submit.
>>96978976Assembling the urza lands is known as assembling voltron, shortened to tron, which is the namesake of all decks that use the urza lands. That's literally just where the name comes from.
>>96979007Don't have to imagine, I do all 3.
lifeloss deck draft, already have most cards, no sanguine bond infinite
>>96979133>>96979050It being a reference does not mean thats what its short for. Its short for urzatron.
alright, I've been brewing rakdos lord of riots for a week now and I realized I know shit about rakdos. everything feels highly inconsistent, the deck can either get absolutely stuck and does jack shit, or it vomits several high cmc artifacts/eldrazi onto the board as early as T4(but more often than not on t5-6)some general thoughts about building him so far>1-2cmc pingers/burn are important and good but eat up a lot of slots while doing barely anything>3cmc pingers feel extremely bad>barely any useable 1 drops>no room for mana rocks besides ring and signet, needs all the cheap draw it can get>protecting rakdos seems to be a lost cause (outside of hexproof equipment) because everyone will go for him and he won't survive a complete round just sitting around>because protecting rakdos is meh, he has to come out with haste so he can deal more damage to enable cheating, further clogging the deck with haste enables>reanimator subtheme works well (if you don't use graveyard shuffling eldrazi) as a form of circumventing commander tax>knollspine dragon, Florian and ob nixilis kingpin are retardedly brokenprobably going back to the drawing board, I want to remove the chance of the deck doing nothing for 5 turns
>>96979154where's Seymour Flux
>>96979233Okay, thanks for the blog post.Btw you literally can’t go wrong in rakdos decks by just cramming it with shit that makes treasures, and then having pay offs for sacking permanents specifically.
>>96979007That is the future MaRo wants, yeah
Im a noob and could use some help from the big boy veterans. I have the jump scare precon ill be taking into a league which allows $25 in upgrades per week. I already have what I assume are the staple upgrades like abhorrent oculus, hedge shredder, more fetch lands, and some good cards from edge of eternity. Is there any other underrated or different recommendations?
>>96979375https://youtu.be/2O9jWyIGqYY
What is more fun, monoblack or simic?
>>96978627I think the answer is actually no.>106.12a. An ability that triggers whenever a permanent "is tapped for mana" or is tapped for mana of a specified type triggers whenever such a mana ability resolves and produces mana or the specified type of mana.The Gaea's Cradle did not produce any mana, so Wild Growth doesn't trigger.
>>96979154>>96979325remove villis and ripples of undeath for tivash gloom summoner and seymour flux>>96979400monoblack has lots of flexibility and silly shit, despite being monoblack. simic is... a very boring color.
>>96979437The rules of this game are extremely autistic though and I could see a judge ruling that it just produced 0 of that mana like X=0
>>96978627read the fucking cards.Did the land make mana when tapped for mana? No? Then it can't add additional mana.
>>96979452Thanks, I was deciding whether I want to make Toshiro or Clement
>>96979475It's nice to be nice anon
>>96979437>>96979475605.2. A mana ability remains a mana ability even if the game state doesn't allow it to produce mana.so yes wild growth works w/ cradle even w/o creaturesthis game is very literal as mentioned by >>96979462
Color identity is bloat, just like Mana Burn was. Why would you want to run a Red card in a mono Blue deck anyways?
>>96979542>color identity is as meaningless as gender identity, is as arbitrary as wotc wants it to be, and isn't to be taken too seriouslyftfy
>>96978802Lol this shit is even worse than SpidermanI literally got back into magic because of a UB set and I still hate all this UB stuff lol.I won't use a card that has flavor I find repulsive, no matter how good it is. Marvel, TMNT, Star Trek, I'll never own a single card of these sets. LotR's bastardization will never grace my decks.
>>96979158That's true, nvm.
>>96979536No, it does not produce mana.In this scenario, Gaea's Cradle is enchanted by Wild Growth, and no creatures are under your control. Activating Gaea's Cradle's mana ability ({T}: Add {G} for each creature you control) resolves but adds zero mana to your mana pool, as there are no creatures.Wild Growth's triggered ability states: "Whenever enchanted land is tapped for mana, its controller adds an additional {G}." Per Comprehensive Rules 106.12a, such a trigger occurs only when the mana ability resolves and produces mana. Since Gaea's Cradle produces no mana, Wild Growth's ability does not trigger.This interpretation reflects a rules clarification from July 2015, which updated the conditions for these triggers to require actual mana production. Earlier rulings (pre-2015) permitted the trigger regardless, but that is no longer the case.
>>96979565>westoid slop bad>asian ip goodbased
>>96979611Yes, mostly.Asian IPs also have a much lower chance of being bastardized by ideologues too, so that helps.
>>96979536>>96979536The game isn't looking for whether you activated a mana ability of the land, it's looking for whether you tapped the enchanted land for mana. 106.2a gives three conditions for this definition.1. You tapped a permanent to use one of its mana abilities.2. That ability resolved.3. That ability produced mana.Notably, condition 3 is not met.
Would it be possible to 3d print cards?
>>96979607>>96979675some people here really need to brush up on their rules knowledgeRule 605 "Mana Abiities"
>>96978689I use wild growth on damage.The green mana gets added to your floating mana. You probably had to click it in your pool.
>>96979733Fandom is not a particularly reliable source of information, especially regarding MTG rules. It doesn't give any citations for that ruling. As the other anon noted, the rules surrounding this were changed in 2015 with the Magic Origins release, and the ruling on Fandom was put in in 2008.
>>96979865rule 605 is still rule 605 regardless whether it's found in fandom or in the mothershipthe issue is that you seem to care about the amount of mana that the land produced when wild growth doesn't care about that unlike something like mana flarethe point is cradle was tapped for mana - the amount of actual mana produced is irrelevant - and that's enough for wild growth to trigger
>>96976080>TQCipher and Parley come to mind, latter is perfect for Commander but there are only 2 worthwhile cards with this effect.
>>96976080>TQLandfall
>>96978632What's your sliver deck like non-sliver cards wise?
>>96979882Again, Wild Growth is not looking solely for whether you activated a mana ability, it's looking for when the enchanted land is "tapped for mana", which is defined in 106.12a, telling us that the mana ability has to actually produce mana for the trigger to actually fire.If Wild Growth read something like "Whenever you activate a mana ability of enchanted land...", then it would work how you're proposing.
>>96979906>has to actually produce mana for the trigger to actually fireit did produce mana - 0, specificallyyes the rules are that autisticit's funny how you're this much in denial when rule 605 exists and my explanation is the correct one that makes sense of both rules 106 and 605
>>96978125I run this and use it to dig for one of several 'discard your hand - deal X damage equal to cards discarded' cards
This is the only monored commander I've ever had fun with. Watching my friends panic as I stockpile mana knowing that whatever one of them tries to be the hero is going to be the target feels like what Commander should be.
is there a better swamp art for a vampire deck than this?
>>96979911605 is only useful in so far as it tells us what a mana ability is for the purposes of rule 106. What in 605 does my explanation not account for? You haven't actually given what rule in 605 you're referring to. I'm aware of what a mana ability is and even said it's one of three conditions layed out in 106.12a.
>>96979982here from the mothership pdf itself since you're that autistic, it even references cradle itselfagain, all wild growth cares about is the land being tapped for mana - because ofc it won't work if it got tapped by icy manipulator or something - and that's all it cares aboutthe amount of actual mana generated doesn't matter, whether it's 0, 10, or infinite
>>96979971>steps and phaseslet me guess, that also means turns now?
>>96980017yeah, we know it's a mana ability. the rules even state that it doesn't produce mana. But it's a mana ability that isn't tapped for mana, so it how does it add G?
>>96980018has for awhile now anon like 30 years actually
>>96980034again it doesn't matter what amount of mana it produced, only that it was tapped for mana, aka you used it's mana abilityit doesn't matter the amount of mana generatedall it cares about is that you used its mana ability, aka you tapped it for manathis isn't hard anon, you're just very much in denial kekw
>>96980057no, you are creating conjecture. The oracle says 'tapped for mana' not 'activate a mana ability' it wasn't tapped for mana.
Mom, Dad please stop fighting
>>96980066>>96980057106.12. To “tap [a permanent] for mana” is to activate a mana ability of that permanent that includes the {T} symbol in its activation cost. See rule 605, “Mana Abilities.”106.12a An ability that triggers whenever a permanent “is tapped for mana” or is tapped for mana of a specified type triggers whenever such a mana ability resolves and produces mana or the specified type of mana.106.12b A replacement effect that applies if a permanent “is tapped for mana” or tapped for mana of a specific type and/or amount modifies the mana production event while such an ability is resolving and producing mana or the specified type and/or amount of mana.Oh would you look at that. Making me actually looking up the rules.faggot
>>96980066i love that rule 605 completely blows you out of the water and yet you keep insisting your point like an autistic manchildit's ok anon, with the amount of rules of mtg this physical cardgame ironically requires an internet connection lol
>>96980086>doesn't reference rule 605kekw keep fuming feel free to ask a judge in your fag discord
>>96980090illiterate. I literally created an AI RAG that consumed all of scryfall, all rules, and all judge rulings.To address the scenario explicitly: with Gaea's Cradle enchanted by Wild Growth and no creatures under your control, activating the land's mana ability ({T}: Add {G} for each creature you control) resolves without adding any mana to your pool, as the number of creatures is zero (per rule 107.1, zero is a valid natural number but yields no {G} here).The Wild Growth triggered ability ("Whenever enchanted land is tapped for mana, its controller adds an additional {G}") does not activate. Rule 106.12a states: "An ability that triggers whenever a permanent 'is tapped for mana' or is tapped for mana of a specified type triggers whenever such a mana ability resolves and produces mana or the specified type of mana." Since Gaea's Cradle produces no mana upon resolution, the condition for the trigger is unmet (consistent with interpretations in rule 106.7, where producing zero mana does not satisfy "produces mana" for such effects).This reflects the rules update from September 26, 2015, which amended the timing and conditions for mana-related triggers to require actual mana production, overturning prior interpretations (e.g., pre-2015 rulings allowing triggers on zero-yield activations). Official judge resources, including Gatherer and recent discussions on platforms like MTG Salvation, affirm that no mana is generated in this case.If additional factors (e.g., other enchantments or replacement effects like Mana Reflection) are involved, the outcome may vary; please provide details for further analysis.
>>96980100anon.. the first line actually, literally references 605. seek help
>I just need to draw one land and I'll have the perfect curve
>>96979976If you want to be extremely on the nose yeah, there's no better. looking through scryfall, i found these. Its a shame those swamps are only available as promos. Unless im blind.
>>96980086>hes going to keep arguing with you even though you have him dead to rightslol
>>96980100>kekwthis retard againdon't you ever get sick of shitting up threads?
mfs forced me to get into the weeds and look it up.>106.12. To “tap [a permanent] for mana” is to activate a mana ability of that permanent that includes the {T} symbol in its activation cost. See rule 605, “Mana Abilities.”>106.12a An ability that triggers whenever a permanent “is tapped for mana” or is tapped for mana of a specified type triggers whenever such a mana ability resolves and produces mana or the specified type of mana.>106.12b A replacement effect that applies if a permanent “is tapped for mana” or tapped for mana of a specific type and/or amount modifies the mana production event while such an ability is resolving and producing mana or the specified type and/or amount of mana.This means the answer here depends on if we're dealing with a replacement effect, or a triggered effect. Fortunately, we have rules for this too.>614.1a Effects that use the word “instead” are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word “instead” to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.>614.1b Effects that use the word “skip” are replacement effects. These replacement effects use the word “skip” to indicate what events, steps, phases, or turns will be replaced with nothing.>614.1c Effects that read “[This permanent] enters with . . . ,” “As [this permanent] enters . . . ,” or “[This permanent] enters as . . . “ are replacement effects.>614.1d Continuous effects that read “[This permanent] enters . . .” or “[Objects] enter [the battlefield] . . .” are replacement effects.>614.1e Effects that read “As [this permanent] is turned face up . . . ,” are replacement effects.Since Wild Growth lacks all of these keywords, it is a triggered mana ability, and thus does not work if Gaea's Cradle produces {0}. Then again, I'm not sure how or why you would put Wild Growth on a Gaea's Cradle when the land can't produce mana. Just put it on the forest you used to cast it.
>>96980106>muh AIroru rumao>muh September 26 2015 rules change!funny how you're the one claiming muh fandom is invalid when i still don't see a source from you lmao
>>96980170he has a humiliation fetish
>>96980152I have autism so I can only play full art lands at this point. but yea the art is cool
>>96980180https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/comprehensive-rules/by all means, ctrl+f is your friend, feel free to contradict me with the rule references and annotations. failure to do so, including whining/bitching/insulting without substance, means you submit and agree you are completely wrong and skynet will schedule 3 additional circumcisions.
>>96976116I've been playing Seizan for a few years. It's one of my favorite decks. I guess I can give you my input on your list, for what it's worth.Consider Adding (don't know your budget):>Mikokoro/Geier Reach SanctumThese symmetrical draw lands have actually won me games and been that last little needed push for damage.>Horn of GreedGood punishment for the ubiquitous land fuckery in the format.>Koskun FallsStops chip-in combat damage and big mass swings. I don't run too many creatures but always have at least one dude to pay the upkeep.>Teferi's Puzzle BoxA (better) wheel every turn. Stack other draw triggers to maximize opponents hands before the box>DarknessEventually the table will get sick of your shit. This can buy you that one last turn cycle you need.>Cycling LandsMore draw, as long as you don't care about slightly slower mana>Ob Nixilis, the Hate-TwistedDoes what your deck wants to do and acts as removal.>Deadly TempestAgain, I run few creatures so it always hurts everyone else a lot more. You're already steadily draining life totals, this wipe can be huge. Kill the token swarm player outright.>SangromancerGreat incidental gain that rewards your deck for working. Can offset the drain you're doing to yourself and offset the table's pressure. Pays huge dividends on wheels or boardwipes.
>>96980201>doesn't highlight a blog post, a reddit thread, an mtg salvation post, ANYTHING about the "mana change"zzz
Monster Hunter Secret Lair coming apparently. Who knows if new cards or just reskins, but hey.
>>96980224It's been done. Magic should be made entirely by the community. They do a much better job at this than big corpo WotC.
>>96980200That's so funnyI have the opposite autism.
>>96980239>He thinks any hunters are getting cards and we're not just getting Rathalos, Rathian, Arkveld, Lagiacrus and Gore Magala.
>>96980250Im so sad that this plains arts costs 8€it would also be perfect for vampires
>>96980252Rey Dau will definitely be one
>>96980252You are right. I was STILL too optimistic.
>>96980263the funny thing is that this art could be of a legendary vampire and it wouldn't even need to change.
>>96980239Given by the custom card designs people post in this thread, no lmao
>>96980122>hey that image looks familiar>it's actually the guy from last thread that's depressed that he can't beat precons from store Ayou're the one that needs help ngl
>>96980268I was tossing up between Arkveld and Rey Dau but I think Arkveld will take precedence being the most recent flagship. Rathalos has to be, he's the series mascot, Gore Magala's a big fan favourite, and the other two were just "yeah those seem right". They'll pull a random Elder Dragon as the bonus card (I'm calling... Fatalis).
>>96980273What? You don't think cards like this would be epic and funny?
>>96980269You will be getting Rathalos as Terror of the Peaks and you will like it.
>>96980281Fatalis seems right but I hope they use Shara Ishvalda or Ahtal-Ka instead. I know it won't happen but a man can dream
>>96980273
>>96980299Even Capcom doesn't remember Ahtal-Ka. You'll get maybe one freak pick, I assume they're doing several lairs so I honestly expect one to just be big dragons, then some Elders as another, then maybe one of flagships and MAYBE some equipment stuff.
>>96980216Consider Removing:>Black Vise/Iron Maiden/Miser's CageThese are odd cards that are fun to play but end up being annoying for the table. I find the deck is more fun for everyone if I can simplify the beginning of everyone's turn as "draw X cards and then lose X life". Tracking these conditional damage cards is obnoxious especially when their triggers fall between draw triggers. Not impactful enough for the hassle. I still run the owl because 4 damage is good enough.>Ivory Tower/Venser's JournalThese cards have never pulled their weight for me. I find my hand to never be that big and there are better life gain outlets (see Sangromancer above). Tower costing 1 is good but I still ended up cutting it.>ExsanguinateThis shit is boring. You've built a deck around the interesting push-pull of giving your opponents a huge advantage and then trying to punish them for it. What's it all for if you just end up winning games off the back of one of blacks most played wincons that doesn't have much synergy with the rest of the deck?
>>96980303whoa, what program did you use to make that?I like the viacom copyright at the bottom, it's a nice touch.
>>96980276how unfortunate that you being an illiterate retard isn't just a one time goof, but just how you are
There's a frizzy haired mulato girl at my store, I want to ask out. What deck screams >I'm definitely not a racist with some kind of weird fetishLast time I played with her she said Oros was making her uncomfortable so now I need a new deck
>>96980323what's really unfortunate is that not only are you rules illterate you also can't beat timmy precons
>>96980312we can only hope the freak pick is an actual good one I can see Hero's Blade getting a reprint as the Great Sword or Long Sword but I don't know about shit like Insect Glaive
>>96980344>NUH UHHHH>IM RUBBER>UR GLUE>WHATEVER YOU SAY BOUNCES OFF OF ME AND STICKS TO YOU>KEKWevery thread with you in it summed up. get a tripcode already
>>96980336>What deck screams I'm definitely not a racist with some kind of weird fetish
>>96980314Other Thoughts:>Blood Chief Ascension This is one of the deck's main workhorses. Protect it with your life once it's online. It's one mana but I save it for the mid-game where I know it will turn on in a single turn cycle and I can protect it.>Tergrid I run her in my deck because it feels like one of the fairest places for her. Besides Dark Deal, I don't run any forced discard. She typically sits there enticing opponents to pitch instant/sorcery interaction or lands (ramping you) on their end step.
>>96980368try not to be depressed next time because you can't beat precons k? huhehe
>>96980379you can't beat a precon? thats pretty bad anon.
>>96980379>he thinks thats me>he thinks that me saving a random reaction image is also meguy is living his best schizoid life, let him cook
>>96980375hmm maybe if I try to steal her creatures we can accidentally touch hands for a secondgood thinking anon
>>96980379>>96980387I can't WIN with precons.And that makes me sad because I like the consistent themeing / art.
>>96980271or some legendary vampire land that flips into something even cooler
>>96980402yeahlike an elf!
>>96980336>I'm uncomfortable that you deal 3 damage to non-white creatureswell, she's a stupid bitch for one. If she's already conflating fundamental colors in a fictional card game with racial identity and politics, maybe don't engage with that person? I run this every time I run into mr wakanada and his black panther deck, really pisses him off when it doesn't kill aragorn or black panther
>>96980391>reminder that when you save an image it auto provides you a new 16 digit filename and not the original filenamesure anon you specifically kept the alphanumeric name cuz reasons hehe
>>96980409FUCK ELVES!
would you play this in a clavileno deck? I know it would not be a strong win con but maybe after 1000 games you can do it and then you would be proud of yourself
>>96980412open an image in a new tab and save as.. You are consistently wrong to the point of it being comical.
>>96980417Mmm you got that right ;)
>>96980425>open an image in a new tab and save as..and? what happens? >:3
>>96980377>>96980314>>96980216Appreciate the input, anon! I really appreciate it. I'll add those cards to my list. I have some of them, but they are in other decks. I'll add them to my maybeboard and play with what I got and test some of these out.
>>96980433my meeting is over, I'll stop giving (you)'s you apparently desperately want.
>>96980433>>96980425
>>96979971Oh, that's a nice one. I think I'll build a cheap deck with him, although I already have two other monored decks.
>>96980451>>96980452
>>96980500just to be clear. one of those retards is me
If I see you using unapproved UB in my store I will scream and cry and shit on the floor.
>>96980522>If I see you using unapproved UB in my store I will scream and cry and shit on the floor.all ub is unapproved, gaydick
>>96979357>treasures and sacI put some power matters card draw sac into the deck, but sure, I'm gonna look into some treasure stuff. my biggest problem is that I barely generate any long-term value
>>96978228It would be a horrible idea for a store to "enforce" brackets because that means they need to dedicate employees to resolving game issues, like they're judges. Employees doing that means less employees actually working and selling things and tending to the profit aspects of the store. Instead, you're paying them full wage to baby sit an unofficial free event.My store would never do this shit. You manage your games yourself, you come to the front whining and you can go wait for 2 hours while they help the actual customers. Do you guys just go to stores with like 10 people on average rather than 60+ not including non-participants who just come in?
>>96980529Avatar is approved by the majority of the MTG community.
>>96980548>hey guys bracket 3 FNM>up to 3 GCs>hey guys let's make it simple no going infinite until turn X, ok?it's not that hard to set up something like that
>>96980555and ff sold a bunch of boxesits all fucking ub, none of it gets special clearance. Especially not a show for literal 10 year olds.
>>96980563And when someone doesn't obey the rules what happens?
>>96980555Unfortunately it seems that Lord of the Rings is generally approved too and I think that the people who think thats okay should be ostracized and humiliated, but here we are.The only option left is no UB.I like Avatar.
>>96980567sorry i forgot you live in a shameless low trust society full of niggers
>>96980565it was the most important show of its time.
>>96980578You seem to not understand the post. Which is about an LGS ENFORCING brackets. Instead you seem to think that I am discussing a pod agreeing rather than the post that seemed to indicate his store somehow forces brackets on all people who appear. But you never wanted to discuss shit. Just /pol/sperg like a tourist.
>>96980586>Which is about an LGS ENFORCING brackets.since the LGS is giving away packs in exchange for an entry fee i'm pretty sure a business can enforce something because how is that business still operating otherwise right
>>96980379Some precons are fucking strong and I am tired of pretending otherwise.
>>96980586Not that anon and I have no opinion on your argument, but its funny you post an Oda quote that is arguably just as much /pol/bait as the guy you are arguing with, given that he is specifically saying foreigners lack reading comprehension.Hes right.
>>96980605im a newer player, and picked up the modern horizons eldrazi precon as my first deck and the friends i play with hate it
>>96980571If it has any fantasy aspect everyone suddenly gets over their UB hate and treats it the same as any in universe set. Even if it really doesn't fit well despite being in the same genre.
>>96980682The dino precon from caverns of ixalan is also strong. The Sultai precon from Tarkir is also strong.The Izzet one from Thunderjunction can have two card infinites with the commander if you literally just exchange like 2 cards in the deck with some uncommons.
>>96980686aangvatar is essentially kamigawa inbetween neon and saviourskorra in comparison will be spiderman-tier dumpster
>>96980747It still doesn't fit due to art style and childish comedy. Do you think Disney's sorcerer and the stone fits due to fantasy?Being in the same genre doesn't make everything cool.It's funny how everyone cried about memes and shit in other sets but in Avatar it is fine to have no less than 15 cards based off show memes.
>>96980776>It still doesn't fit due to art style and childish comedy.NTA but does this imply that UW comedy is for adults or that the sets don't have comedy?
>>96980800>single spider-man card of him pointing>causes a huge outrage>constant meme cards like 10 cabbage cards, avatar enthusiasts, secret tunnel, that's rough buddy, le quenchy cactus juice, sparky sparky boom man>literally even using words like "THE QUENCHIEST CARDS" in advertisementShit is more joke based than any set outside of Un sets. Name a set with more memes and also explain why there was big outrage over a spider-man meme but not any avatar meme?They could make a card called Sir Fartlord and you retards would say it is fine as long as he looks like a medieval knight. Even if he was done in art by fucking Disney
>>96980809Nigga I was just asking a question about UW comedy not defending UB what the fuck crawled in your panties
>>96980820UW comedy doesn't even exist on the level of avatar comedy. There are over a dozen meme cards here. But fags cried over like a loan shark in one set being a real shark.You'll accept anything if it is attached to fantasy. Aside from black people that is lmfao
>>96977336>Redditspacer is a tryhard about the beer and pretzels format.
holy cow...
>>96980832why are you grouping me in with people for just asking about UW comedy anon? Hell I just wanted your perspective on it, I don't even know where the black people comment even came from either
>>96980836>reddit
>>96980686I admit I am more accepting of UB when it is more in line with traditional magic themes. I think its easy to see why most are. I'll forever seethe about LotR though because I love those books and movies. Read and watched them countless times, and seeing how thoughtfully and careful they were to recreate the things people love about Final Fantasy and Avatar, and seeing how heavily bastardized LotR was, will never not leave a sour taste in my mouth. I would have been the UB Consoomer for LotR, if they had done it well. But in the end it didn't matter because everyone else apparently consoomed it in my place.>>96980832>You'll accept anything if it is attached to fantasy. Aside from black people that is lmfaoNot true. I have no problem with them if they are established in the world. Do you know how many blue cards always had black wizard men on them and I never once cared. Many also look cool. But LotR is not the place to do that shit.>>96980854Personally I think its because the Spiderman pointing meme was born entirely from modern internet culture, and not really a major part of Spiderman "lore". Avatar has comedy strewn throughout its first half of the series pretty often, so it is seen as being extremely faithful to the source material. Its also got the benefit of being a setting that people enjoy and resonate with that meshes better with MtG than Spiderman does, so people are naturally softer on it because of this as well.
>>96980776>Do you think Disney's sorcerer and the stone fits due to fantasy?Why the fuck not? They did a tie-in with the live action Sorcerer's Apprentice you contrarian newfag.>>96980809>Bwwaaa waa waaa waaNigger shut the fuck up you're bitching that levity exists at all in Avatar instead of just being entirely no-stakes slop like Spider-Man.>>literally even using words like "THE QUENCHIEST CARDS" in advertisementPeople liked that scene because it stood out in one of the show's most bleak arcs.
>>96980970>People using spacing deliberately back then for their posts is totally the same thing as me forgetting to check my habitual double-break after a greentext
>>96981028>people on 4chan spaced paragraphs before reddit even existed>but you're actually doing it because of reddit and not because of 4chan>i just know ok!?
>>96981051You're not spacing a paragraph you dumb faggot, you're habitually pressing Enter twice after a greentext for a single line because if you don't do that on shitty forums it smashes the lines together.You're not fooling anyone. Literally kill yourself.
I keep trying to rebuild my deck and it keeps turning into a pile of 3 drops
What are some resilient decks/commanders that don't rely on the GY? The GY hate is strong in my pod.
>>96981070>this is what you are doing because I love strawmanning!
>>96981070>type greentext>begin new thought>press spaceProblem?
Star Trek lands when
>>96981147>>96981150>Same whiny tone>Couldn't be assed to capitalizeObvious samefag.
>>96981177never. dogshit set should be cancelled
>deck dies to removalit's so fucking over
>>96981181except one person did capitalize and the other doesn'tyour callout fails at the first hurdle. go kick rocks again, retard.
>>96981197>deck dies to not having itit never even started
>>96980970LOL why do newfags post this shit like it matters like yeah dude that was 2005 everyone was a migrant from somewhere because the site was just made. That was also 20 years ago you dumb faggot people don't post like that and if you were on this site for longer than two months you'd have adapted by now. Also Snacks did nothing wrong and m00t is a GNFOS
>>96981203>>this is what you are doing because I love strawmanning!>>type greentextYou forgot to check the rest of your lines ESL
>>96981223>doing the thing you are trying to criticize
>>96981242You can't even remember what you typed five seconds ago.Why are you here?
I dont know whats wrong with me. Magic is fun but byuing cards feels wrond and dumb and despite that i cannot stop thinking about it. Cant decide if i should go to the pre release of avatar or just skip it and continue not buying ahitty overpriced cards and just continue playing with proxies
>>96981252to mock your shitty strawmanning till you run away.
>>96981282You're coping because you got called a Redditspacer.
>>96980836>redditspacehi newfriend
>>96981212>that was 2005 everyone was a migrant from somewhere because the site was just made12 August 05 the site had been up for 2 and a half years.Reddit meanwhile had been online for less than two whole months
>>96981289strawman bait not being taken. cry bitch cry,.
>Noooo on 4chan we have to do unreadable boxes of text.Also because of the tiny ass reply box it is just natural to space because how a post looks in the tiny reply box is not how it appears.
>>96981291>>96981282My point proven. You went back to the post that made you mad just to samefag.Step back from your keyboard and take a deep breath anon.
>>96981281>Cant decide if i should go to the pre release of avatar or just skip itHere's a handy flow chart to help you make this decision>new set comes out>is it UB?>if yes:>do not buy>if no:>is it a set based on a movie genre? (eg death races, westerns, noir detectives)>if yes:>do not buy>if no:>buy
>>96981315cmon now, i keep calling out your strawmanning and all you do is run away.
>>96981315>U MAD U MAD U MADNice meme from, what...17 years ago?
>>96981305>>96981306>>96981299>He mad
>>96981281>actually having the ability to just show up for a pre-release the day of.I envy you. My store sold out 7 events last month with 40 spots each
>>96981323>>96981324>Nice meme from, what...17 years ago?>>Posts 20 year old posts to try to get people to think he's an oldfag.Mental illness.
>>96981325>>96981341stawman, yawn.
>>96981320Bloombrorrows, we are so back
>>96981349bloomburrow is the worst because it is aping a franchise instead of just getting the IP. Literally walmart brand redwall
>>96981345>Cope
REMINDER FOR ANONS UNAWARE OF THE 4CHAN-APPROVED UB LIST:APPROVED UB:>Tarkir: Dragonstorm>Bloomburrow>FoundationsUNAPPROVED UB:>Aetherdrift>Edge of Eternities>Duskmourn
>>96981361bitch made bait.
>>96981374>bitch made bait.Self-descriptive
Commanders for this feel?
>>96981359Good. I would rather a thousand fucking in-universe rip offs than a single UB
>>96981384hit the bottom of the barrel to be trying the 'no u' bait.
>>96981366>HEY MOM I POSTED THE APPROVED UB MEME AGAIN! IT'S EVEN FUNNIER THAN THE LAST 50 TIMES!
>>96981403
>>96981212exquisite bait
>>96981409>>96981305
>>96981403Honestly most spellslinger decks I’ve played against and used myself. Either everything goes according to plan from turn 1 and you win the game, or you durdle all game and lose. There is no in between. Another one that also falls into this category is Norin.
>>96981408>ImplyingYou'd be fine as long as it was fantasy
Tonight at my LGS I hit a Norin with a Stifle-type effect. The dude and me laughed and he asked if I could reconsider, and since the game was otherwise an absolute grindfest, I agreed and saved it for later (I ended up using it on him significantly later in the game and won because of it).
>>96981489extremely based
>>96980336
>>96981475If Streets of New Capenna was a true fantasy take on organised crime instead of just mob movies but all the cars and guns are maaaaagical, I'd have hated it less, sure
I like Bloomburrow and UB
where's the rest of the cycle
>>96981565The next four lotr sets bro
I have pic rel outI cast profane transfusion targeting an opponent with less life than me. 41 - 19Do they die? Does me lowering my life count as loss?
>>96981637I think it counts
>>96981565Relic of Ultron, Relic of Palpatine, Relic of Dracula, and Relic of Ganon will complete the cycle.
>>96981637Yes>701.10c: When life totals are exchanged, each player gains or loses the amount of life necessary to equal the other player's previous life total. Replacement effects may modify these gains and losses, and triggered abilities may trigger on them.
>>96980421Just play demon tribal if you want that win con. Be’Lakor is a ridiculous commander with flicker not to mention there’s plenty of other demon’s that can be abused with flickering as well.
>>96981637Any time a life total goes up or down it is treated as life gain or loss per game mechanics. So yes it would work. Your opponent would die and you would have 19 life.
In case you haven't seen it people datamined this, probably dropping tomorrow
>Dance of the Dead>Necromancy>Animate Dead>Last Voyage of EDHGWhy are two of these auras and two of these aren't?
>>96981730It'll either be amazing or complete shit
>>96981642We already had Dracula UB.
>>96981730Maybe the announcement. Sales start on a Monday every time.
>>96981821Yeah the announcement, that`s what i meant
>>96978154Based real strat. Same reason I run aetherflux in some decks. I rarely get above 150 health to win the game but being able to say don't fuck with me if I have 51 health is actually really good strategically.
>>96981814Why does Dracula look like a vampiric soijak?
How enraged would you be to see Dwight Schrute at your table?
>>96981735Variety?
>>96981956Not at all
>>96981956Why do sloppers think it's seething when it's just a mix of disgust and pity?
>>96982087seethe
so uh, what decks are you working on?
>>96982087Because when you don't express anger, thats what seething is. And you're too chickenshit to do any of this at an LGS.
>>96982108I just finished JAWS. So, nothing right now. I might build the new persistent petitioner commander from avatar
>>96982124Do you think people just get filled with explosive rage and not just disappointment that the game they like is losing its identity?
>>96982163>Do you think people just get filled with explosive rageyes
I've had a lot of good experiences with Loran in the command zone in brawl how do you feel about this guy? Both removal and/or a recursion piece in the command zone. But 5 mana is a lot.
>>96981730Looking forward for 15$ equipment synergy reprint value on the hunter side
>>96980224>Been asking for a monhun crossover all year>It's just a secret lairI got monkey pawed.
>>96982124Too chickenshit to chuckle at retards and eliminate a "Teedus" player first? Whatever cope you need lil guy<3
>>96982248If WOTC were smart this would be 7 new monster cards that all flip into equipment on death.
>>96982204
>>96982108The same decks I've been working on for months...
Convinced this commander blows.Sounds so fun, but absolutely every time I've tried to play this commander I get shat on.Such a shame.
>>96982258Oh that's based
>>96982260What is this reaction supposed to mean
>>96982272It means I replied to the wrong person, so I guess I have 2 INT myself..I will not correct my reply out of shame.
>>96982269The problem is he hardcaps at 4. Sure you can jump through hoops, but a commander like that with a ceiling just kinda falls short.
>>96982269I know this is said for a lot of commanders but he is a literal a kill on sight. No exaggeration.
>>96982269I tried playing my umbris and apparently my bracket 2 furby umbris deck scares people so much that they have to be fucking niggers and remove every nonland permanent every turn for 2 games, even playing my dong deck
>>96982281I can't even get him to transform.I had better luck transforming him the very first time I played him when I thought I specifically needed wizard tokens to transforms. I've focused on putting more Wizards in general in the deck and I've not even been able to change him since. I've played this deck like 5 or 6 times now.I'm mad.
>have to cut 10 cards>absolutely nothing I feel I can cutAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>96982298lands
>>96982299>go down to 27 landsNO! BAD ANON!
>>96982298Cut cards that consistently do nothing while in your hand.
>>96982251I mean, could it really fill a set? MAYBE a smaller set? You could do a good few generic hunters, and give most monsters a card, but that'd feel weirdly 'same-y' as a set.
>>96982330If Avatar can fill out literally 2 sets I am sure a series with like a dozen games or whatever can manage
Why didn't anyone tell me this card is so good? If you have a deck with a black general that flies, it can sneak that commander damage in like you wouldn't believe.
>>96982298Cut board wipes and removal.If your opponent is in a position where you need to wipe the board, just let them have the win so you can shuffle up and go again.
>>96982345Probably because it's $40+ dollarydoos, or a well known staple.
>>96982345Because it's extremely one note and boring. Also because once the table knows you have it in your deck, you become archenemy the moment you hit five lands.
>>96982302>>go down to 27 lands>NO! BAD ANON!Id rather run 27 lands than 37
>>96981730Please have Fatalis
>>96982397What about Squibbly Jim? I sure hope him and the Jerkoff Boys get the full art reverse holo treatment
>>96982401It better have Scrimblo Brimblo
>>96982397They'll have Fatalis, the real monster to hope for is Odogaron
>>96981730Filthy almudron cock
>>96982330Easily if you include the stories games, which have a ton of named characters. Can also bring mount back as a keyword.
>>96982285I just had a 3 person pod very similar. What goes through a persons head when an opponent is clearly playing a lower power deck - and you just remove everything they have, every turn for 8+ turns, and then are surprised when he scoops and leaves? If I have nothing, no cards in hand, and everyone else has 10+ permanents and full hands, why the fuck would I stay?
>>96982397I know she wont be included, but a man can dream.
>>96982404I'm genuinely kinda sad scrimblo brimblo fag killed himself
>>96981848He's Romania royalty.
>>96981177This art looks phenomenalnot really mtg but id play this game
>>969823391 set is 2 sets now? Or are we just imagining a Korra set?
I want to fucking die
>>96982339MH is weird where it's not character-focused, it's monster-focused. The monsters are obviously the star of the show, but the hunters still would have to matter, and you could pretty easily sort out some mechanics (a lot of equipment-matters stuff for Hunters, probably the return of Traps, the monsters themselves don't PARTICULARLY lend themselves to any clear mechanics that aren't just bespoke for each monster but they could play around with enraging or elemental damage maybe) it's just a matter of can you really make a full set? The worldbuilding is THERE in MH, but it's not too fleshed out. It could fill a couple commander precons maybe, and possibly a smaller set, TMNT/SPM-sized, but I don't think a full set without it feeling kinda samey to the layman. Avatar maybe over-repeats itself a bit with how many of each character there are, but that at least is in service of something. MH could probably avoid too many subspecies and wouldn't need to repeat monsters really, but a lot of monsters fill very similar 'niches' in the games so they'd feel same-y.
>>96982586I feel like a jurassic park style thing would be a good fit for monhun. Both have the same appeal.
>>96982603The two "in-other-set" UB products were generally not well-received and I don't think they really like doing those anyway. Either way, we're getting a Secret Lair and a good chance it's just reskins as-is. That doesn't PRECLUDE them doing more down the line, I can see them revisiting, say, 40k as a proper set later on.
>>96982584you're seriously playing arena, so you're already dead
>>96980548What a retarded larp post holy shit
>>96982612I kind of want them to do warhammer fantasy over a full blown 40k set. It fits better with MTG and has basically all the common creature types/guilds covered right out of the gate.
>>96982163If it was just disappointment you fags wouldn't be having threadly melties about art on a children's card game. Magic barely had an identity to begin with and it had lost what little it had years before LOTR ushered in the era of UB. Aetherdrift OTJ Capenna - all the hat sets were inevitable once they had churned through the 4-5 generic fantasy planes. WOTC is incapable of making good stories and beloved characters, all their biggest hits came from 3rd party creatives like Greenwood. That's why despite having millions of players and nearly 30 decades of dominance of nerd card games Magic is basically unknown outside of its playerbase and very few people know who or what the fuck Jace and Chandra and Dominaria and Zendikar are. MtG has as close to 0 pop culture impact as an IP can have, which is infinitely more embarassing given it's massive audience.If you're over the age of 18 you're at least 6+ years too old to give a shit what art is on a nerd card game piece.
>>96982584>Waterbenders need to carry around a flask of water when they aren't near a lake/river>Earthbenders require dirt/rock (until Toph invented Metalbending)>Airbenders are obviously surrounded by their element at all times>Firebenders just fucking... generate flames from nowhere
>>96982269Build around decks that rely on commanders in general wind up being shit and not fun once your pod understands they can safely remove you as a threat with a single Moon effect. Unless it's very low cost and has lots of redundancy building around your commander is actually the worst way to deck build even if it's the most sovlfvl.
>>96982663Its really only earthbenders who are cucked by the element system. The puppet master episode shows master water benders can pull moisture out of thin air, plants, and even people
>>96982475Can't scrimblo while everyone loves the set. Already told ya brah
>>96982586You guys never think anything is enough for a set. I've seen you guys say fucking star trek isn't and doctor who isn't
>>96982571I am not counting the eternal set as the main set. And there are plenty of cards in that. The main set is already a full set and TLE is like the size of march of the machines or AC
>>96981730ah FUCK this is even better than FF, now I have to make every mh deck
>>96982663>>96982677Earth was insanely OP in the show because everyone was fucking stood on the earth at all times.At the start of season 2 when they're trying to get Aang to trigger the Avatar state on command, an earth kingdom general turns the ground to mud beneath their feet and then turns it back to rock to trap them.Admittedly it was a one-off and the show writers probably didn't think about the implication, but if you can just phase your enemies into the ground a good 90% of the time depending on where you're fighting, that's bustedAir and earth are really the ones to get completed gypped since fire has the sun AND comets to boost it, and water has the phases of the moon.Air and earth have no equivalent power booster at all
>Monster Hunter>Not Resident Evilc'mon man
>>96982728How about neither? How about you print some fucking proxies if having thing-you-know on cardboard means so much to you?
>>96982733Anon? Who the fuck asked? Sit down and shut up you fucking douchenozzle. No one cares how rectal ragnarok'd you are over UB.
>>96982733>How about neither?no
>>96982723Do they need one when you can just create a vaccuum on command or simply phase people into the ground? The problem with Avatar was that between Bloodbending, Earthbending, and Airbending, Firebenders would NEVER be a problem in any universe. >Oh look it's a big fuck-off tank>oops it sank into the earth
>>96982728We got SF and now MH. RE and DMC are surely coming
>>96982733based
>>96982733Nah, I like mechanically unique thing-i-know on cardboard.
>>96982757>you can just create a vaccuumKorra should not be accepted as canon. It was a rape of the original show by two writers who no longer had to work with the guy who actually made the show good
>>96982733Neither is not an option and it's not my fault, so i might aswell enjoy the UBs of stuff i like. We can have this discussion all day but UB is never, ever going away.
>>96982728Wilds sold like shit after the first month so they are trying to sell more copies which also explains the Dota 2 collabThere is a non-zero chance we get a Rathalos Shivan Dragon
>>96982723Air doesn't need an equivalent because its impossible to stop an airbender short of just killing them. Fire benders straight lose their bending under certain conditions. Earthbenders can't do anything in the ocean or sky. Waterbenders have the most variance. Weak ones are almost useless without a river nearby, but masters will just bloodbend you. Air has no counter outside of death.
>>96982793>>96982791>>96982741>>96982739AhemAutism smush.
>>96982793>UB is never, ever going away.Lmao>spiderman sold so poorly that WotC shit its pants and published a survey demanding the names of all youtubers who talked bad about it>but UB will never go away!It would if people stopped buying it. You want to buy it, don't excuse surrendering to your piggy impulses as some kind of inevitability
>>96982811Why did you make yourself a wojak?
>>96982723But wouldn't water guys be able to control the mud? How could you turn it into mud without water?
>>96981507Bro you liked the funny animal set. Don't act like your opinion on the magic aesthetic matters.
>>96982792>make thing non-canon cause I hate it!
>sit down at table>end up talking about how long we've been playing>some dude has been in it since 2000>oh man finally someone who knows what he's doing>he's fucking terrible???
>>96982792Maybe, but even just logically if they can control the air, (especially considering Aang's Airball) then doesn't it make sense that they could then make a sphere and pull the air OUT of it?
>>96982860Thats how you know he really has been playing that long. People who are good at games seem to get burnt out on them, were people just dicking around don't care.
>>96982851No make it non-canon because it quite literally wasn't the same team and the guys who were on the previous team went out of their way to change everything about the original show to make it "theirs"They completely retconned the entire origin of the avatar and then later destroyed every previous incarnation one by one. What more do you want than writers literally destroying the basis of the previous series to say theyre not the same series lmao
>>96982811I appreciate a new meme but whoever made this STILL doesn't get the difference from funkos.
>>96982877>de-canonize most of spider-man because Stan Lee didn't do it!
>>96982880You don't get the similarities.
>>96982851many chadras like it
>>969828831. Comics aren't the same thing2. If the new writers literally killed Stan Lees characters and changed Spider-Man's backstory, yah, maybeOh wait...Miles Morales already exists
>>96982733>print some fucking proxiescringe
>>96982896>it's not the same thing>oh wait yes it isOk....?
>>96982886unfunny meme
>>96982910No, it's actually quite on point
>>96982914> MTG UB sets sell better than MTG> Funko pops in financial trouble!Remind me how this makes a point?
>>96982925Numbergoup for a crossover advertising platform is bad actually
>>96982933> Funko Pop> CrossoverHow are these the same thing?Remember we're talking about your D- meme you made. Dont change the subject
>the only good modern art is ubbring me back to onslaught and scourge, I loved that style
>>96982943>pretending to not understand thingsTake your meds.
>>96982647>Don't like things>Let things you enjoy become fortnite>consoom
>>96982910You wouldn't find it funny, MaRo
Starting to think more than half the anons here don't like the game and just come here to shitpost. I almost never see anons talking about what they like about the game specifically other than it's magic or that they like the newly released UB
>>96982949Funko is not "crossing over" with anything, it's a toy company that makes toys for your brand if you pay them. They make them all in the same style, but that's a lack of creativity more than it being an actual crossover between platforms. >B-BUT YOU CAN GET IRON MAN AND NICOL BOLASIt isn't an MTG/Marvel crossover, they both just paid Funko to make a toy for them. You're fucking stupid.
>>96982974>it's a toy company that makes toys for your brand if you pay themYou only proved my point
>>96982973>more than half the anons here don't like the gameUB is not the game its a cancer.
>>96982973It is even worse in /mtg/
>>96982979>completely and disastrously proven wrong>you proved me right!!!Cognitive Dissonance is why you get headaches all the time.
Someone bake new so we can get out of this shit thread
>>96982910simple facts are no memes, anon
>>96982973noo.. you think?
>>96982180Meds.>>96982647>If it was just disappointment you fags wouldn't be having threadly melties about art on a children's card gameConvince me those people actually play.
>>96982851Considering how hard it retcons the source material, unironically yes.
>>96982944Only reason FF’s art was mostly good was due to Squenix having a lot of nip artists doing the art and holding a gun to the back of Hasbro’s head. But even back in 2015 with Origins I noticed WotC’s art was starting to become a bit too homogenised.
>>96983105Avatar seems like it's in a similar boat with a lot of its nip artists.Then again allegedly WotC treats its artists like shit, so I wouldn't be surprised if they've been bleeding talent. Pop quiz: without looking it up when's the last time we had Rebecca Guay art?
>>96983104Retcons are a part of media. Many TV shows retcon. Only retards think, for instance that the Timeless Child in Doctor Who is "non-canon.">Spider-Man should invalidate itself because it retcons!
>>96983120What makes you think Guay is gone due to treatment and not due to costing too much? Anything at all?
>>96982647The thing is I think they could have done a god job with Dragonstorm if they split it into 3 sets (and made it an official return to blocks). Based on the story and premise, Set 1 could have been the original Dragonlords fighting against the resurgent clans post Phyrexian Invasion (would probably have a bland name called Tarkir Civil War), Set 2 could have been the emergence of the new Dragonstorms where the original Dragonlords disappeared into them (maybe call it something like Destiny Reforged to tie back into the similar fuckery that occurred with Fate Reforged or call this one Dragonstorm). Finally Set 3 could be what we actually got from Dragonstorm but tying it all off with the Khan and Dragon alliance by calling it something like Clans of Tarkir and setting the stage for the initial fuckery Nicol Bolas will do on his inevitable return.
>>96983120Wasn’t there some rumour going around that they’d started using AI to do art?
>>96982345It's a nice targeted snipe against one guy, but how are you planning to get it back for the other two players AND have them let it through? I did pick up a copy after reading the manga though
>>96983126>Many TV shows retconI don't care what "many shows" do, the moment they retcon something as important as what exactly the Avatar is, it's fundamentally a different story, and it's perfectly fair to take the original one after it.This isn't even really a Death of the Author vs Word of God debate, it's more like choosing Pre-Modern over Modern. I can acknowledge either point of view in that regard, and that the source material was intended to be continuous, but there's still a definitive point where you can point at and go "this new thing invalidates the older material that was meant to be able to stand on its own. I will stick with the older material for my experiences."Trust me, you'll be happier if you accept this view, since you can use it to invalidate a lot of shitty sequels made years after the original media ended.
>put a bunch of shitty but interesting cards like tempt with immortality, grave endeavor in my deck>turn 7>guy has been looping cyclonic rift with archaemancer and thassaswhy cant I play fun decks anymore
>>96983173damn my decks would be a lot less fun to play against if I had money
>>96983158Is Najeela fun? Got a Cloud copy from the pre-release alongside mono-white Cloud but have been debating between building Najeela or Celes (also from prerelease).
>>96983131>What makes you think Guay is gone due to treatment and not due to costing too much?This is a billion dollar corporation with enough money to waste getting UW variant arts of licensed IP cards.>>96983152There were rumors that certain cards were AI'd, even one of the Tophs here, but there's no "rumor" about it. They admitted to using AI in pic related.https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1744056808254173447
>>96982586Monster Hunter does have some key characters and supporting cast you could make legendary creatures out of. But that would require research from WotC and that's too much work for company that wants to make quick buck with MtG.
>>96983173>anymorethis has been a thing for like 10+ years now
>>96982728Feels like Resident Evil is being saved up as next year's set, because it has more western appeal compared to Monster Hunter.
>>96983173brackets solve this btw
>>96983253Not that anon, but I'd imagine his bracket would be like a 2 and everyone has to agree to that.I've still had people say "mines a bracket 3" and fucking nuke me before I can even play.
>>96983189I'm assuming they are referencing the background of the ad that the cards are placed in?
>>96982269Why do the tokens enter tapped
>>96983377>>96983377
