Previous: >>96999604>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat are your favorite basic lands to run?
>TQI really like the Caverns of Ixalan full art lands
>TQMountains :3
>TQI make my own.
>TQYes, EoE was one of my favorite sets, how could you tell?
>>97006881Neat Got the full art from that Urzas saga on hand?
Would you consider a combination of Vandal Blast/Mycosynth Lattice a form of MLD in bracket 3 or a funny interaction that comes with the consequence of MLD.
>>97006843>TQI like the watermarks, they're fun.I wish they would do them every time we had a set with factions like new capenna and tarkir (technically there is for the rare tarkir lands, but I mean for basics).DnD flavortext lands also achieve the same feel for me and are a runnerup.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
funny memes featuring this girl?
How do you build a fun deck with a lot of lines in it? Pref. bracket 2.5-3
>>97006974Of text? Most made-for-commander cards will get you there.
It's so nice that after all these years Oketra finally found a husband
>>97006922https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/madeinabyss/images/5/5b/Map_of_the_Abyss_Game.png
>>97006989lines of play
>>97006882A past me would have cringed at these lands but I like lands which aren't SLD-slop or >muh hecking big tree symbol in the text box
>>97006863Based>>97006881Based>>97006882BasedFor me it's gotta be the dungeon master flavor text lands from AFR and CLB.
>>97006843>What are your favorite basic lands to run?The one and only. I bought so many Unhinged boosters back in the day. Even got the BFM.
>>97006871kawaii moon-chan
>>97006925gavin says if you cannot consistently make it happen (ala godo bandit warlord consistent) then it's ok
>>97007030>nooo I don't want heckin space wars planets as lands that's heckin cringe af!!>oh wait they're... official Magic: The Gathering™ space wars planets.....?>well now they're heckin based af unlike those cringe fantasy forests and mountains from ugh....... heckin unbased sets like lord of the rings that do NOT fit the Magic: The Gathering™ aesthetic.........
>>97006843>tqThese are my favorite basics
>>97007079>>well now they're heckin based af unlike those cringe fantasy forests and mountains from ugh....... heckin unbased sets like lord of the rings that do NOT fit the Magic: The Gathering™ aesthetic.........But this is one of the better new lands, albeit? If I hated final fantasy would I still be an appreciator of this land? (Its even better than the EOE lands btw)
>>97006925I feel like if you're purposely putting those two cards into a deck fully aware that it becomes mld and you intend on using them in combination as mld then it is mld, yes. What you're doing is typically called "angle shooting" and is usually considered bad sportsmanship for a casual format.
>>97007106Rejected. If you posted the FF9 forest I would have conceded.
>>97006925why vandal blast and not karn? thats most likely game and not some meme
> download a file> its a webp file
>>97007108>play liliana dreadhorde general>MLD!! you're angleshooting!lol how much of a pussy are you?
Niggas be like "mld is is so mean" then keep two land hands like smdh
>>97006925I don't really understand how people aren't able to comprehend this, but the reason there's a general guideline against MLD in bracket 3 and below is because people just don't want to play against it.Why are you obsessed with forcing this onto random players knowing they don't want to deal with it?
>>97006925>this is not ok in bracket 3>Exquisite Blood/Sanguine Bond is ???
>>97006925It's really no different from any other two card combo that wins the game. For some reason people pretend this is somehow meaningfully different than killing the table by casting Chandra's Ignition with a blightsteel in play.
>>97007158people also don't want to see their stuff get removed or countered or their library milled, what's your point?
>>97007185You genuinely can't see the difference or are you trying to be facetious?
>>97007117
>>97007203Can you? Anon isnt destroying lands, he's destroying artifacts.
>>97007203there's no difference, angleshootingschizoimagine taking every casual's shit opinion seriouslywhat's next, you're gonna ban voltron too because they can kill one (1) player on turn 6? kek
>>97007203You already know he's autistic, just stop replying
>>97007137Hate this shit bro
>>97007085Those Odyssey forests are quite good.
>>97007085Unstable basics my beloved.
I think squirrels are cool. I want to upgrade the precon deck so that I can swap between the squirrel legendaries while keeping non-squirrel creature tokens to a minimum. Also fuck infinite combos. Any pointers?
>>97007241>it's another chatterslop deckzzzcheck edhrec, there's a couple hundred thousand others out there you could take cues from
>>97007252l2r
>>97007264Pick a lane. The other two are just generic precon commanders. Chatterslop's the only one worthy of note.
>>97007279What if I want to adjust the power level of the deck with just swapping the commader?
>>97007003>That Appa was made by a furry artistExplains the face to the left.
>just got katana sleeves for the first timeHoolyyyyy i never wanna touch dragon shields again, these are so much nicer in literally every way
>>97007301It's a squirrel deck. What do you want me to tell you? It builds itself. Just check edhrec and be done with it.
>>97007318I'd like to talk about my hobby with people instead of mindlessly netdecking. Maybe there's some fun combos edhrec won't give me.
>>97007314Name some objective difference.
>>97007314FINE, I CAVEI'll buy a pack when my DS wear out
>squirrels>in chatterfanghuh?
>>97007349>r/BadMtgCombos/
>>97007359Less jagged edges and the materials on both sides just feel higher quality, like they really feel amazing to just run your hands over.The professor also did a stretch test on them and Katanas were literally impossible for him to rip while Dragon Shields sometimes failed, also DS ones are more likely to have manufacturing errors while Katanas have pretty much perfect QA.Only upside of Dragon Shields is that they come with extras sometimes.
>"don't talk about mtg in the mtg thread"
>>97007389Did you try pairing them with dragon shield sealables?
I can I use secret tunnel on earthbent lands?
>>97007440no
>>97007446ok thank you
>>97007422No but i did try them with dragon shield sideloading inners, that worked perfectly and didn't feel too tight so i imagine sealables work too
Dark Burnishing 2BInstantDestroy target non-land, non-artifact permanent. It can't be regenerated.
Post decks
>>97007464I don't think you'll like it.
Bark Durnishing 2BInstantDestroy target non-land, non-artifact, non-enchantment, non-planeswalker, non-battle permanent. It can't be regenerated.
Are there any creatures which your opponents desperetly do NOT want them to die? Like "When this creature dies, your opponents lose" kind of shenanigans? I wanna make a commander about suicide bomber creatures
>>97007478The angry baby
>>97007446why not?
>>97007478not only will all their nonlegendaries die, but you'll gain an obnoxious amount of life
>>97007493They don't share a creature type.
>>97007473No insane top deck manipulation that I can see looks like an enjoyable yuriko to play against.
>>97007499nta but it's because their creature type is (null), like manifested/morph/etc? So they technically don't share a creature type?
>>97007464Jund, Dimir, Gruul, Esper, or Golgari?
>>97007499Feel like a lot of people overlooked that part when they first saw this card. Its definitely nice but that will be an annoying restriction at times since its not up to two.
>>97007464sadly my shitty LGS only plays duel commander
>>97007478Child of AlaraPiru the Volatile Leyline TyrantElectroJurivarious small goblins and devils that ping some damage on deathChainer, if they are nightmare tribal
>>97007511Golgari has always been one of my favoirite color combos>>97007517That counts anon it'll be interesting seeing how they differ
>it's not one of those decks>it's exactly one of those decksi like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but i'm starting to get tired of it.
>>97007522>Chainer, if they are nightmare tribal Wait they absolutely would want him to die, though? Since you'll lose all your nightmares. Your creatures get wiped every time they kill your commander
>>97007533This is my probably my 4th favorite of my decks. It basically lives or dies off getting lucky with the mill but when it works it hits like crack.https://archidekt.com/decks/10092445/bugs
>>97007536What about my Level Up Atraxa deck? Zero other proliferate, zero infect, zero storage/charge counters, zero anything else, etc etc etc. Literally only level up creatures and basic anthems
>>97007538If *they* are nightmare tribal.He exiles *all* nightmares.
>>97007551i believe it when i see it.
>>97007551Cute but Atraxa's obnoxious on keywords alone so it's slop.
>>97007551never had anyone this based sit down at my tableclosest was a group hug kenrith
>>97007536Thoughts on Ur-Dragon, but with only changelings?
>>97007464no I'm waiting for Lorwynn to update my -1/-1 deck
>>97007553welp read that wrong I'm a dumbass
>>97007577ur-dragon isnt one of those decks.miirym on the other hand.
>>97006863These are pretty handsome. I don't know that I'd run them since they break the house style so much but they're nice looking.>>97006882I don't like these. I love good space art but the art does not reflect what they're supposed to be representing at all. I'd much prefer some art from an appropriate location planetside looking up at the stars with some big looming planets or something.>>97007011Oh hey it's that furry loli guro comic. Wack.>>97007043Exquisite taste.>>97007085Based fellow Otaria enjoyer. I always use lands from that era if it makes any sense to do so.
Otaria... home
>>97007556>>97007565Still waiting on the rest of the cards in the mail. It's *real* budget, gonna have like ~20 basic lands and the rest are filter/check lands and some Temples>>97007560Yeah I get that, I just had no other good options for this 4c deck and I really wanted to finish the 32 deck challenge. And all the Partner/etc options were super meh
>>97006843>What are your favorite basic lands to run?I really like the Duskmourn ones.
>>97007586Oh thats cool who was the commander? I made a budget Hapatra list but I dunno. It was "strong enough" to get everyone to focus me but not strong enough to keep up with the 3v1 so I have retired it sadly. I do enjoy it but the moment someone's 1/1 token died to me it was all eyes on Hapatra. Might revisit it when there is more support cause honestly building it was not much of an adventure.
>>97007664The Scorpion God, but he's likely getting replaced by the Jund commander from the precon. Newer(and probably better) and adds one more color.
>>97007551Sorry, nuPhyrexia is just inherently cringe. It's sad but it is true.
Was Odyssey peak magic? They deliberately finished 10 years of Magic storyline with Apocalypse and threw everything away to start fresh and new. The world was original, with new cultures that weren't mere echoes of what came before or weak attempts at creating hat expies of real world ones. The story and themes reflected MTG accurately, harkening back to 1994's Arena novel front and center. The 2000s dudeguy protagonist was the weakest link but it beats the ones today.
>>97007646For nu-full arts they are pretty goodI also like the art-deco lands from SNC
>>97007746scourge was a sendoff to the dominaria-centered era of mtg which ofc was followed by powercreep starting in mirrodinsame thing with war of the spark wherein it was a sendoff to the planeswalker-centric era of mtgwe're now in the powercrept modern horizons/collector's booster/omenpath/UB era
>>97007781Mirrodin was great thematically until the end revealed lolitsphyrexians
>>97007783you can always put your foot down and say that any lore that happened after scourge doesn't existthat's basically what the premodern format is anyways
>>97007514it's basically just the tribal version of rogue's passage
>guy at LGS literally pulled a "no, it's a low power level *wink* hehehe">well I know I am playing extremely expensive competitive cards that lock you out of the game, but they're not defined as gamechangers so it's a low power level hahaha get it? yeah, that system is so dumb!
Rank these for bracket 3 and then for CEDHTorpor Orb, Grafdigger, Damping Sphere, Cursed Totem
>>97007389>>97007314I wish I had whatever experience you did with Katana sleeves. The one time I bought a box a couple of the sleeves just fell apart after the first couple of shuffles. It was baffling. It wasn't the whole box but it was enough to make the pack unusable for a full deck
>>97007510You can't share nothing, as a communist!
>>97007833>dude mana drain isn't on any cEDH metalists or a gamechanger, so obviously it's bracket 1 and not one of the most busted cards ever printed
>>97007783What? Mirrodin 2 was about phyrexians the entire time
https://youtu.be/Y4hxDd8E6gwThisOnly I don't really care about Jace.
>>97007902gavin has bad card assessment i agree
>>97007912Mirrodin 1
I have a confessionIm enjoying brawl more than edh
>>97007971When did mirrodin 1 have phyrexians
>>97008008memnarch went mad because of glistening oil
>>97007902Ive seen this visage several times in the last couple dayswhere did it come from?
>>97007314>katanas They are pretty ok till they split mine lasted about 6 mo which is fine
Mirrodin should've stood on its own. No Karn, no Mirari, no Phyrexia. Only two blocks in and they ruined the fresh start Odyssey gave them.
>>97008027I thought that happened at the start of mirrodin 2
>>97008043
>>97008062the super gods and karona ruined that block. ixidor, kamahl, chainer and phage were based. laquatos was also secretly based.
>>97008094confirmed by the mirrodin author way back in 2006
>>97008124What is MR?
>>97008175male rape?
Golbez!
>>97007746It was gigabased, and what midwits are not prepared to admit is that the Onslaught-Scourge novelizations were schizokino as well.>b-b-b-but it said Yawgmoth was coming back! That's le comic book slop!And then they brought Bolas back, and brought the Phyrexians back in an even more contrived and hackneyed manner anyway.A living incarnation of Black mana coming back from the dead after centuries makes sense. The way the idea was introduced was one of the most spine-tingling moments in all MTG fiction, however low a bar that may be. The very worldsoul of Dominaria shat itself at the mere utterance of his name, it doesn't get more hardcore than that and I refuse to compromise that position.
>>97008175>>97008183
>>97008027Memnarch went mad because of glistening oil that came in contact with the Mirari, not magical Phazon that was all over Mirrodin all the time.
How do I make her work?
God I want to fuck Ink Eyes so badIs there any way to play her as a commander
The standalone pre-revision MTG novels needed sequels. Especially this one. I want to see the wizard procreate more with his dwarf wife.
>>97008225You put her in the command zone, and only run cards that fit her color identity (black).
>>97008225Kill yourself, tourist furnigger.
>>97008225>>97008235Umm actually she's not really you're waifu unless you call her Sumime
>>97007478You are like a little baby
>>97008224She can be a shitty low-to-the-ground aggro deck. Pic isn't my most recent version of the deck and is far from optimized, but it can randomly overwhelm people.
>>97008225>wanting to fuck ink-eyesyou're getting cucked by a demon called Black btw
>>97008268>implying this does jack shit in FIRE metacute
>>97008268>play this>inform people of what it does>guy board wipes>woah we have to discard our hands???
>>97006843>What are your favorite basic lands to run?The Final Fantasy lands have so much spirit to them.I am expecially fond of Mt. Gulg Mountain, Edea's Orphanage Island, Ronfaure Forest, and Mor Dhona Swamp.
>play this in a deck with absolutely no way to kill a red 10/10 creature>GAVIN HELP HE'S HOLDING OUR POD HOSTAGE MLD MLD MLD
>>97008327For me it's the FF2 swamp, FF10 island, FF3 forest, FF2 plains, I don't have an opinion on the mountains
I proxy $10-20 dual lands>b-b-but because of your lack of restraint, I will now lose against you because I'm too poor to buy those landsI fail to see where this is my problem
>>97008415>ha! I'm going to proxy duals and you can't stop me!!lol sure do whatever you want poorfag
>>97008435>>97008415Gotta be the same person arguing with himself at this point.
I proxy basics because I like how they look.I'll also proxy expensive cards like Gix if they're my commander (back when he was $10+) or Bitterblossom if they have crazy synergy with the deck, but I don't proxy staples just because they're staples. I always have some crappy cards I can swap in if they're a problem for the table anyway.I'll also proxy pain lands, check lands, slowlands, filter lands, and enemy tango lands if they're exorbitantly expensive for some reason (a lot of them are).I don't do shocks, fetches, surveils, or triomes because those are too expensive and not everyone splurges on their manabase.
I only proxy cards I own or I feel are 'strictly necessary' for a deck. For example there's no card better for Oketra than the new Appa card. >>97007003
I proxy any card over $2. I just don't play anything over $5.
>>97008435thanks, I will. they are already proxied. better get a job if you want to keep up, bucko
>>97008353I should run this in Purphorus 2.0 to make the table hate me
I only proxie universe beyond cards and replace the art with bbw porn
>>97008534Most acceptable answer.
>>97008534NiceList?
>>97008536yes yes earning more than you has somehow magically stopped me from getting the printer topkek
>>97008564Edric, Benton, Ruby. You can build all of these on a budget.
>>97008603Yeah you can build most decks on a budgetI wanted to see your list, which is why I asked>list?
>>97008603>$5 dollar cards>budget
>>97008637>~$100 casual edh is too expensive nowi think you have more important things to worry about
>>97008622Tch. It's embarrassing sharing my lists. They're just kinda generic.https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-05-25-edric-budget/https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/john-benton-budget/https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ruby-update-wip/Ruby's deck is out of date. I know I don't have Etali Conqueror in there but I forget what I actually put in that spot.
>>97007464
>>97008534based, I just brought a proxy of Toph The First Metal Bender like 10 mins ago
>>97008668>my deck with $2-$5 dollar cards in it is totally under $100 bucks>>97008712I stand corrected, these are indeed budget listsalso the ruby one is still private fyi
>>97008735Coomette proxy ?
>>97008534I've been doing this for the last 8ish years. Anyone who doesn't is bad with money.
>>97006925>One person plays protection spell>You have now wasted the time of two players
>>97007536Sorry we're on the right side of the bellcurve for edh now, enjoy it for what it is. A slow decline into mediocrity.
>>97008764I tried to find one but couldn't sadly there was one that had her ass out but I couldn't find it after yesterday on etsy
>>97008788Imagine making proxies which allows you to put literally any picture in the whole universe on a card and you end up picking this rancid dogshit art
>>97008832yeah I just picked the first one on etsy
>>97008788I'll post mine later
>buying proxies that are more expensive than the card
>>97008751>also the ruby one is still private fyiMy bad. I forgot I left the update wip private while I figured things out.https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ruby-battlecruiser-tempo/Here's what the deck looks like right now. Had to find the odd card out. (It was Lifestream's Blessing.)Ruby's my favourite deck so it gets more love than the other two.On an unrelated note, Apex Altisaur dropped down to $5? It was like $15 a while back. Might need to make some room for it.
>sorcery So close, I keep telling myself it will be good this time but lol no
>>97008832What's wrong with it? It looks pretty good.
>>97008859if it's a coom one tell me where you got it so I can get it and cancel my order
>>97008788
>>97008865WHOA MTG cards look like THAT?!
>>97008875Holy based
>>97008875>ai slop
>>97008875Why is it blurred?
>>97008571>can't even get a printer because he's so pooryou should probably quit the hobby until you find a job
>>97007137>add extension that lets me right click and save as PNGFuck webp
>>97007478I mean
>>97007440LE SECRET TUNNEEEELLLL!
Is lorwyn out yet?
>>97008242ancient image
God I fucking LOVE using proxies
>>97008917I just realized that those horns are on his chin, not on his head, and he has a goofy ass face.
I hate when my opponents use proxies because I can't keep track of what the cards are from a distance.
>>97008958Get glasses
>>97008873Coomette has one as a bonus card but you didn't hear it from me
>>97008964Bless you anon
>>97008957Brother I just had the exact same thought. For years I thought his real mouth were his eyes.
>>97008353I am trying to fit this guy in a "buff dudes lifting stuff over their shouldres" bracket 1 deck and it will be ON THEME
>>97008957>PROTEIN HULKthat's milk+GOMAD for you
>>97008945Same
>>97008958Is that really a proxy problem though?
>>97008968I thought it was like this.
>>97008994No
>>97008869Depends on what you're looking for. I use it in Orvar to return opponents stuff while also making a copy of something and then recasting that same thing I added back. Would have been better as an instant for sure but it's got its uses
>>97008832What I'm confused by is why not just pick something by a favorite artist instead? Surely one of them did something you'd want to use as a card.
>>97008993>changing the pronoun on Captain AmericaCoward.
>>97009053AHHHH YOU SAID THE WORD
>>97009053I'd take a femboy Captain America desu
>>9700710811 mana MLD game ender isnt problematic for a casual game.
>>97006925Depends if I am winning or not.
>>97008994>Shit, I wonder what card that is.>If only it had its name printed somewhere.
>>97008353i like to put this in decks as a protection spell. if i have a big board i just flash this from my hand and say "if you cast board wipe you'll ruin the game". it's not MLD because i dont want lands to get destroyed I just want to keep my creatures alive. if anything the guy casting wrath should get booted for MLD knowing i had this in hand.
>>97009015There's a turbo autist at my LGS that studied the phyrexian language from that youtuber that deciphered it, and can read these cards. It's pretty fucking sweet
>>97009157I used to do that kind of hostage taking with my Jolrael deck. Good times were had by all.
>>97009166He turns them sideways, right? Because these aren't actually written correctly. Phyrexian isn't left to right, it's vertical.
>>97009172Correct, iirc. I watched the videos a while ago but that sounds about right. Humans also can't actually pronounce some of the sounds because it requires a metal throat for clangs/scratches
>>97009166Supremely based.
>>97008544Architect Approved
>>97009157I don't negotiate with terrorists. Any other responses to my board wipe?
>>97006843>TQFull art and regular for each
>>97009166I can "read" all phyrexian cards because there's only a handful of them.
>>97009222JUDGEJUDGEHE'S DESTROYING ALL LANDS
>>97009222
Bracket 2 btw
>>97009262It leaves you with six lands is your average cmc 12 or something? How is this card a problem?
>>97009157There's no way that works though, right? Does that really stop anyone from wiping the board?
>Knocks over my 300mg caffine energy drink slop all over your favorite sleeves and matwhew whudda mess, I can go buy you a pack from the counter to make up for it little bro.
>>97009271It isn't. But it is MLD so it does bring up questions as to why it is bracket 2. It suggests there is an acceptable number of lands you can destroy at once
>>97008910Clearly you have enough to have a projector at least lol
>>97009277Stop? No. Will it make the boardwipe destroy everyone's lands? Yes.
>>97009282>not autistic so i dont care about some stains on a 30$ mat or my 1$ damaged cards
>>97009282>placing the drink in a way where it would fall forward toward the play areaI keep my drink on the edge of the table, behind one of those big academic boxes. Or even inside of one as a can holder.
>>97009303easy way to get drugged
>>97009289Yes and gavin already defined as "regularly" destroying 4+ lands for each player>yes somehow this means he's afraid of wildfire, alas
>>97009312stop living in the fucking ghetto
>>97009312I am not a woman or presenting as one.
>>97009314but this absolutely can destroy 4+ lands. And a cheated out obliteration on turn 3 wouldn't.It just shows how arbitrary and poorly defined the brackets are
is this mld
>>97009327It allows you to replace your mana. I have no idea why "lol I put 0 basics in my deck" should make this MLD just because retards exist.
>MLDFUCK YEAH
>>97009343>exiles the lands, doesn't destroy themNot technically MLD, get fucked Gavin
>>97009349the D stands for "denial"
>>97009349Is this MLD?
>>97009325Gavin says "regularly" and it aint armageddon>yes i wish he'd just the MLD he hates as GCs and be done with it
just want to remind everyone that the next best way to defeat landfall slop is to just run insurrection.
>>97009352Just like how "tribal" is now """""kindred"""""?? Yeah fuck off
>>97009371One is a name change that doesn't matter and the other has a meaning. And why tell me to fuck off? I didn't create this retarded system.
>>97009374You're perpetuating it, and that's all that matters
>>97009380But it's the rururules.
>>97006925no but i can guarantee someone will complain even if you are effectively just ending the game on the spot if no one can respond
>>97009410>no but i can guarantee someone will complain even if you are effectively just ending the game on the spot if no one can respondHate this shit>cast worldfire with a follow up that will end the game after>retard cries about MLD even though the game is going to now be over and it doesn't fucking matterThey just see "land" and "destroy/exile" and melt down
I HATE THE BRACKET SYSTEMI HATE THE BRACKET SYSTEM
>>97009451>mfw someone sits down and demands brackets
>>97009426>They just see "land" and "destroy/exile" and melt downthis is what i hate most about the brackets, it's given a feeling of authority to the biggest retards in edh to whine about things that absolutely do not matter because duh you let your opponent cast two things for 11 mana. if you swing for lethal with craterhoof no one bats an eye that's just how games are "supposed" to end or whatever. we share this format with morons.
>>97009451It's just autistics acting autistic as bait without realizing they're actually autistic.
>>97009479Can't have shit in commander. What if we make a new singleton format called edh where you use an elder dragon as your general and only play cards within their color identities and everything is allowed?
>>97009479Retards were retarded before brackets, they will continue to be so after bracketsBrackets are for sane randos at an lgs playing fnm
>>97009543brackets encourage retards to try and angle shoot. Someone would absolutely cry at this guy "MLD" even though it isn't. >>97009157
Posted him earlier but now I'm convinced I'm gonna build him. How the hell do you get up to 9 mana in black, on a budget? My pod has a "no infinites" agreement so it'd have to be normal ramp
>>97009451Bracket 1 coded post.
>>97009619Define budget. Is it total deck cost or a per card thing?
>>97009619>How the hell do you get up to 9 mana in blackentomb reanimate like every other black creature, just do it when you have 4 swamps
>>97009619Put mimic vat into your deck and then time travel to 2012 so you can put someone's solemn simulacrum under it. That's good ramp.
>>97009649Entomb isn't budget.
>>97009619Proxy Coffers and Urborg lol.In all seriousness, Priest of Forgotten Gods, Priest of Gix, Blood Pet, all the 2 mana rocks you can get, and Black Market with a few Board Wipes handy.
>>97009645All of my decks are under $50. I don't own any cards more than $1.50, the vast majority being under ~30 cents
>>97009664Then whatever other gy tutors are. Learn to use scryfall.
>>97006843I wish the March of the Machine basics had fullarts. Especially the Swamp.
>>97009689Not even that guy. I'm just pointing out your inability to finish reading a sentence. You ADHD fuck
>>97009356No, unless you are playing with retards who can't read (so yes).
>>97009553>taking a retard like that seriouslyMy point still stands
>>97006843>TQWell my favorite basics are the pixel art ones. But I can't run a bunch since they're like 20 dollar basics. I usually either use 1. What I have around or 2. Something that fits the deck itself. Like same plane, same IP, etc
>>97009698Why do I have to look up the prices of cards before I recommend them? That should fall on the tard begging me to build his deck for him.
>>97009698neota, entomb was also lowercase, shorthanding "Entomb effects".
>>97009664It's like $20. You can afford that in an hour of work at a summer job.Even in a budget deck ~$100 you have $80 for the rest of it since mono black just needs swamps and coffers.
>>97009719>implying invalids on 4um are capable of workMost of the ones in this thread probably aren't even old enough for a summer job lul
>>97009619Just get all the colorless mana rocks you can fit and ramp as hard as you can before it blows up. Once you get him out of the command zone and onto the field you can just reanimate him.
>>97009734lol, punk kids should of bought all the staples when they were cheap. I remember buying unlimited bulk rares for a buck a pop in 2009. I have $600 worth of Howling Mines now.
How strong would this card be, really?
>>97009816goes in ever deck starved for 1 drops, that strong
>>97009816Every deck would run it
>>97009816Nobody would run it, just like those cycle of 2 colorless cost artifacts that come in tapped, but tap for colored mana.
>>97009831Or any number of 2 mana rocks that tap for colorless, with upside no less.
>>97009783Yep that's the current game plan. Plus a bunch of lifelink/lifegain shit to immediately wither away everyone's shit the moment he resolves
>>97009843I run every 2rock that enters untapped and no 2rock that enters tapped
>>97009816I could've absolutely swore this already existed. I remember seeing this exact card many times
>>97009816Snow Rock {1S}ArtifactT: Add {1S}This could be a real card for sure.
>>97009816This is literally tap for 1 colorless and it enters tapped. This is a completely dead draw on any turn other than 1 and there are better plays you could be making on turn 1, assuming you aren't just dumping a tapland to get rid of it faster. No one would run this.
>>97009933>Add SS is what you get by tapping a snow permanent.
>>97009938I guess it should've been a Snow Artifact my bad
in what deck can I realistically put him? rakdos, lord of riots and k'rrik seem like the only realistic candidates to me.
>>97009954Hashaton
>>97009799that card is like 40 cents. you what ma nigger?
>>97009954It's just basic reanimator. Put it in any black deck with reanimate in it.
>>97009984It's like 4 bucksStill cheap, though.
>>97009986are you talking about an older edition? nobody would buy that anyway
this art is so fucking cool and edgy lads. god I love sengir vampire
>>97009992They're all minimum 4 dollars on TCG player.
>>97010008jesus christ american prices are fucked lol
>>97009966>>97009985I should have mentioned that I wanted to go demon tribal. but, I have barely played reanimator before (only dabbled a bit in pauper), mite b fun
Gonna build this one because everyone is building the artifact one.
>>97010014>I have barely played reanimator beforeIt's one of the more boring and simple archetypes out there. If you're a new player, I say go for it.
>Mana Drain... Tropical Island.. Urza>I'll just cyclonic rift until turn 8...>all bracket 1
I hate reanimator in edh.you use 3 cards to cheat out a big thing and then 3 other players have a turn to cast removal on it.yea sure sometimes it sticks and they find no answers but if it gets removed its crazy card disadvantage
>>97010023not that new, I have played creature cheat before, just not reanimator, and I'm also still missing a fun mono black deck.
>>97010038Yeah, if only black had ways to draw cards.
>>97010038I use mass reanimate spells to reanimate a bunch of 1-3 mana things thoughbeit
>>97010040>a fun mono black deckGix or Gonti. Every other monoB deck is just generic removal tribal + reanimator.
What's the meta for three dog decks? Token generators or actual creatures? Every halfway decent 1-2 drop auras or only the best ones?
>>97010038i just reanimate things that have good etbs
>>97010053>gontiI asked about him in the past, and the consensus was that he sounds horrible unfun for everyone involved>gixsounds cool, but what's the game plan here?
>>97009954Raphael, Fiendish Savior
>>97010042>>97010045>>97010070I mean yes it can have nice value but I would just put a reanimate into any black deck coz the card is so strong. I just think its boring to build the whole deck around this mechanic. friend has a mimeoplasm deck and half of his games he just does nothing after his first mimeo got dealt with. painful to watch
>>97010073With Gix you run cheap evasive creatures (flying, deathtouch). You keep your health up, you draw a lot of cards, no stompy player wants to swing into half a dozen deathtouchers every turn, and your opponents get greedy and whittle eachother down so you can win through a wide swing or any number of black finishers.Draw, draw, draw. The best games are the ones where you deck yourself out for fun because you can.
>>97010104vipers and other dont touch me sticks are the most efficient creatures in the format its crazy
This card is so good in Voltron, how does this compare to Farwell and other board wipe staples?
>>97010104nice, I'm convincing, going to gix him now
>>97010020This one is better
>>97006843>TQGot 25 of each full art basic land from both Battle for Zendikar (5 of each of the 5 arts) and 25 full art Wastes from Oath back in the mid 2010s and they’re my go-to if I need basics. Though my Mountains get the least use as my mono red Purphoros deck uses full art Snow Mountain basics for Glacial Crevasses.
This trend where each set adds four new keywords needs to stop.
>>97010170agreed
>>97009954I like him in my Sauron wheel deck as another way for getting my Nazgûl’s back onto my field, but his ability to target any graveyard means you’re never really going to be starved for choices.
>>97010170I think the trend of introducing even one new keyword per set needs to stop. It’s getting ridiculous at this point.
>>97010140I should go to sleep kek
>>97010065>UB card reskinned as another UB propriety but it's not even that propriety, it's a shitty streamer meme of that proprietyGood job you win worst post
What artist makes the best coomer proxies?
>>97010337Your favourite artist. All you need to do it put it on the card.
>>97010337Coomette easily
>>97010040Massacre Girl, Known Killer
>>97007678My nigga. I'm stoked about new -1/-1 counter support being printed. I tried to do Jund -1/-1 counters awhile ago and despite the commander options not supporting it it has bones of a strong deck with a ton of combo routes under a good commander.
>>97009135there are multiple ghaltas and I could not tell you which one that is without looking at the card text
>>97009799>>97009984>>97009986>>97009992>>97010008>>97010010Unlimited Howling Mine HP to LP are $50 to $90 retards. People want ABU cards, maybe not you guys cause you are broke ass EDH-heads.
>>97010487it's the "12" (actually 2) mana one
>>97009954Hes leader of my discard/reanimator deck.
>>97007464>Post decksRate
>>97010020In theory the naya one should be better. Why isn't that the case?
>>97010593
>>97010593A guy showed up at my LGS with AI coom cards a few months back and he got bullied by the regulars so hard he never came back
>>97010618based woke trannies
>>97010593This guy had a nice Toph one but it's not up anymore sadly
>>97010641probably because she's a kid
>>97010300what's shitty about it
>>97010641nevermind I found it>>97010645Out of 10!
>>97010593AI coom aside I am very excited for this card in combination with her Waterskin. my "run interaction" fetish has been activated >searched "waterskin" on the archive and found zero posts about this cardsad
>>97010659This card is actually insane depending on your build
>>97010645they all are tbf
>>97010659There's an archive?
Threads dying folks
>>97010300
>>97010758kawaii desu ne!
>>97010758Wow that's so cool those are my favorite streame- i mean idols, they're different because they have an anime avatar so i'm not simping when i give them all my money!! i hope i get to marry them one day!!!
>>97010771you know you can watch streamers without giving them money, right
>>97010758very cute
>>97010758proxies that make people upset are based
>>97010170This year only Tarkir had 4 new keywords.
>>97010863classic poopdickschizo post
>>97010916classic scrimblo brimblo post
https://moxfield.com/decks/yLhdCDUUgEmPAmlUtCIsBQHow would (you) built 3dog?
>>97010765>>97010771>>97010781>>97010837choose your duo
>>97010916What?
>have aboleth spawn out>etali etb with roaming throne and panharmonicon out >I get 3 triggers>steal consign to memory, replicate x 2 and counter etali's abilities>use his own deer spell to turn etali into a deer>farewell all graveyards, enchantments and artifacts
>>97008775this is such a bullshit argument. no-one assumes games should end in all opponent's losing simultaneously or very close to each other
>>97010963It's just an evolution of calling someone a samefag, if anyone ever disagrees with you on a recurring topic then it means it must be an omnipresent schizo who is always there to disagree with you and whose opinion is inherently invalid
I will never understand why so many pro UB trolls think that it’s a good argument to say>UB is important to me and the company, but for you to object to it is silly
>>97010749Yeah that happens when the game is just a vessel for ads instead of its own IP
>>97011026Because you're standing in the way of fun and they aren't, in their minds. They're not wrong
>>97011037mtg lore sucks dick, possibly literally pretty soon
>>97011047The destruction of the game isn’t fun>>97011059>muh loreNo one cares about lore, people care about story. Said this a hundred times now.I don’t need to know what happened at Jace’s last prostate exam to be able to look at an Innistrad card and see some cool fortified town beset by monsters.If I wanted to look at a Spider-Man card and see Spider-Man I could buy Spider-Man products instead
>>97011059>literally pretty soonGod I hope it involves dragons
>>97011021>>97010963No, there is one schizo here who hates the game, loves proxies, and despises ub. Its very easy to identify his posts.
>>97011059>pretty soon??
>>97011090classic poopdickschizo post
>>97011090refer to >>97010963
>>97011071for businesses and for the casual audience characters > story because characters can become profitable IP that people will be happy to buy while story beats will always be public domainshame we'll never go to vryn, jace was a servicable self-insert (and he really should've been with liliana)
>>97011059>literally pretty soon>he doesn't know about gaybolas being canon
>>97009933>just powercrept mindstone
>>97010170especially ones that are almost identical to older ones but are changed for flavor reasons
>>97011130
>>97011141bait or retarded
>>97011146it's powercrept prophetic prism
>>97011150irrelevant
>>97011071To an extent I agree.Really I think the most important part for lack of a better term is "flavor"If the setting, themes, and designs of the set are cool, then I will want to know more about the story or characters.If its fucking lame, then I honestly don't care, and if its truly awful then I won't even participate.I flat out won't even use cards if I find their art or flavor repugnant.I only felt that bite me once very recently when a friend suggested an Aetherdrift card. Its something I was wanting as far as its effect goes, but the artwork/design is just too god awful and I won't use it. I considered overlooking the card being from aetherdrift but once I realized the card I couldn't.But shit like that is why I won't use a single Spiderman card, or TMNT, or Marvel, and probably Star Trek too. Just not happening.
>>97010020The naya one sucks so I think you'll be seeing others trying this Toph too. Her and the mono green experience Toph are about the only ones worth running as a commander.
>>97010593Could have at least gone for something drawn by Lil Andy or something. Regardless, with this Katara and the others I'm glad they're doing more experience counter stuff.
>>97011260>by Lil Andythe pedo artist?
>>97011241>I considered overlooking the card being from aetherdrift but once I realized the card I couldn't.transit mage?
>>97011272Bingo.I would have used another printing, if one existed.
>>97011071>No one cares about lore, people care about story.That is the same thing niggerHoly gymnastics
>>97009338And blood moon effects shouldn't be relegated to bracket 4 hell either. Gavin and co are brainlets when it comes to good rules. It's not my problem to coddle someone who built a 3+ color greedpile with no basics in it. That should be part of the risk in every bracket if you're going with more than 2 color decks. Should Ghostly Prison or Crawlspace also be bracket 4 cards because they shut down entire deck types? Fact is WOTC designers are a bunch of petty autistic nerd faggots that refuse to regulate their favorite deck types and slop piles, that's why they're fine with tutors at all brackets because "lol some cost a bit more so that's okay :) " and they refuse to make distinctions between non-basic/basic land hate, mass land denial, and mass land destruction. But no, introducing rules like that would mean sweaty faggots would actually have to make compromises and they wouldn't be able to shit out 3 color slop goodstuff piles willy nilly and that's just yucking peoples yum too hard. :(
>>97011241>and probably Star Trek too. Just not happening.I could be wrong but I think Trek will be decent. I think they will avoid the shittiest spinoffs. There will definitely be a lilot of legendary sloppa but I think Trek has potential and some of it will be good
Dark Souls UB in 2027It will blow Final Fantasy out of the water
>>97010065There is no meta. Three Dog is a shit bracket 1 commander. No inherent protection, requires build around, no redundancy, auras are one of the worst card types, you have to invest in going wide and auras to make it work, and after all that bullshit you still have to fucking pay for the privilege of blowing your own shit up so unless you're somehow cheating the costs it's minimum 3 mana per aura on top of getting Three Dog and your creatures out.
>>97011090it really is hilarious how bad samefags are at pattern recognition. That or they intentionally trying to bury the lead, but i doubt they are that smart.
>>97010170What's going to kill the game isn't UB or power creep, it's going to be "complexity creep" when nobody can play a card without someone having to look up what the fuck these keywords do or sit there and read out a novella of reminder text explaining how "Manifest Dread" is different from "Morph" and "Disguise" because nobody except no lifers can be bothered to remember what any of that shit is. Even with reminder text on some cards, whenever I play a card with unfamiliar keywords I can already see everyone elses eyes roll back as soon as I announce what the card does. What have we all gotten in the last year alone? Fucking warp and lander tokens and mobilize and endure and frenzy and renew and harmonize and omens and behold and webslinging and air/water/fire/earthbending? And TMNT and Lorwyn are barely spoiled and they're already showing we have shit like sneak and mutagen and mutavault on the way. People are going to get rapidly burnt out on new mechanics.
>>97011427>frenzyif only...
>>97011427sneak is just ninjutsu with a cast trigger because blue apologists need to be able to counterspell everything.
>>97011445I'm a phonephaggot and it autocorrected Flurry to Frenzy for some fucking reason.Flurry is probably the most egregious example because it's not even an actual keyword. The only thing creatures with Flurry have in common is that it relies on casting a second spell, each "Flurry" does something different and there was zero need go put it on the 12 whole cards they made with the word pretending like its an actual mechanic instead of a bunch of different abilities. I've said it before and I'll say it again: MaRo and Gavin and the rest of the team fucking suck at design. Every decently designed card they've shat out is 100% accidental.
>>97011427You have a point. There really is too many of these keywords that are just the same as another. But I think for the most part that's a problem that's almost solved by the players themselves. People just naturally don't run those cards. No one, not even people who bought the precons for Edge Of Eternities, have used a warp card or landers. I think to some extent players, even if it's only unconsciously, don't bother once the complexity of keywords is beyond them and it helps mitigate these issues. I think the only one we'll probably be seeing with any regularity is the bending stuff since, unlike the majority of keywords or abilities we've gotten over the years, a lot of the commander options from that set have them built in more core to their identity. No, it's not a good solution that the players just chose to completely ignore what was supposed to be the unique set gimmick, but it's something holding the complexity from getting too ridiculous. I think what really keeps things in check is that people will just say their cards do a thing and people roll with it.
>ward - gift a creature
>>97011505I was wonder what felt so different about it. Should have realized it was for bliggers.
>>97011564punished for not blocking during combat? Nope! counterspell that sneak cast! Why care about about any phase that isn't your upkeep.
>>97011563Absolutely punishing for tall decks and a nothing cost for wide decks. I don't know if they'd so directly give a triggered ability creature steal though. If they did do something like that it would probably give 1/1 fish or something. Maybe like Kazuul and give 3/3 ogres or a copy of a creature on the battlefield.
Bad Dog 1WInstantGift a fish.Tap target creature. If you gave the gift, destroy it instead.
>Ward—Mill your entire library
>Ward - Discard your hand, mill your library, sacrifice every permanent you control, exile your graveyard, and lose the game.
Ward - let an opponent punch you in the balls
>Ward—Suck your opponent's cock until he or she cooms
>>97011427What's really cool is that they will keep shitting up the game with this at a rapid rate indefinitely because blocks have been abolished and reusing UB mechanics such as waterbending is extremely difficult if not impossible. These mechanics just have no staying power and thus will be even harder to keep in your head.
I have a confession, I have no idea how energy works. I just nod my head and pretend I know what's happening.
>>97010941I would not build this at all because I am not a tasteless rube and also I wouldn't build this because tracking a million copies of seperate auras is fucking annoying and bad design.
>>97011794jotc didn't know either anon, you are fine.
>>97011794they are just counters used to pay costs.
>moxfield down>scryfall down>edhrec kaputtit's finally over... I can... rest...
>>97012017>all of them work
>>97012043no they don't I just checked, I keep getting error 400 when clicking on decks
>>97012079same
>>97012079works on my machine
>>97012079Oh cloudflare is shitting the bed again.
>"Everyone is overreacting and and acting like the hybrid mana change is like Wizards abolishing color identity."That's because they literally are.>"I don't even think abolishing color identity is wrong."Then why the fuck do you play commander?>"It's a casual format where people can impose their own restrictions if they want them. The format imposing its own restrictions goes against the spirit of the format."The format was literally created with this restrictionHow is this person so fucking stupid?
>>97012117all his points were based
>>97012128on what?
>>97012139a true story
one of you guys go and fix edhrec
>>97011520warp gets some play, if only because exalted sunborn and starfield shepherd are really good cards for popular archetypes
>>97012117I don't know what people don't understand about this hybrid shit. If you are in boros none of the cards in your deck are supposed to get hit by pyroblast. Simple as that.
>>97012174But the designers intended for you to be able to cast blue cards with red and white mana!
>>97012174>If you are in boros none of the cards in your deck are supposed to get hit by pyroblast.
>>97012174>Be me>Retard>Choose to put card that gets hit by pyroblast in my deck>Get hit by the one guy running pyroblast outside cEDH>"B-But my commander!"
What if the color of spells with hybrid mana was the colors of mana used to cast it?
>>97012192The designers also intended for me to put literally any card in any deck.>>97012194Turns out the rules change if you play a card that changes the rules.>>97012198Not even sure what you're trying to say.
>>97012205Tracking issue which is why the rules just say they're both colors. Because in 99% of games it doesn't matter.Little did the designers know 15 years later it would cause retards with crippling autism to dig in their heels and boycott Lorwyn.
>>97012117They had PleasantKenobi on for one of their podcasts and he made them sounds like idiots. PleasantKenobi isn't exactly smart but it was incredible listening to them try to apply mental gymnastics to every topic and PleasantKenobi bluntly dismissing them repeatedly.
We stand with Trinket Mage against hybrid mana in this general.
>>97012216This guy is also really fucking stupid but I guess a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>97012222>This guy is also really fucking stupid Spoken like a retarded green player that wants to enforce brackets so he can ramp unpunished.
What change are you talking about?
>>97012216i cant check right now because cloudflare is shitting the bed, but aren't there very, very few cards that even have hybrid mana as it is? even less worth running in a given deck.
>>97012277If only there were two sets packed full of hybrid cards being released very soon.......
>>97012225I hate green. One of the many reasons I think Trinket Mage is retarded is because he insists tutors are good because they create more dynamic games because you can tutor for anything, and that the problem people have with tutors is what card is tutored for rather than the tutor itself, but doesn't realize that your tutor will get the best card in your deck 9/10 times regardless of what that card is. Just because you aren't tutoring for Thoracle combo does not mean you are tutoring for something that isn't the best card in your deck. Trinket Mage says you don't always have to tutor for the best thing in your deck, so his argument is "If you don't play efficiently, they aren't bad." but if we're ignoring all the rules and structure of play then it doesn't matter what plays you sequence at all because you're more interested in "dynamic gameplay" than you are the actual gameplay itself.I have a friend who runs picrel and he complains about how samey his games are because he always tutors the same vehicle first every game. I told him to take that vehicle out and he said "But then I'll just get (this vehicle) first instead every time instead." and this guy still agrees with Trinket Mage somehow.
>>97012277But what about my christmas scenario where Tifa Lockheart opens Leyline of the Guildpact, Dragonfire Sword, 2 fetches, Barkshell Blessing, and Life's Legacy?
>>97012280Cart before the horse, anon.
>>97012280Avatar? The hybrid cards in it are ass.
>>97012281Your friend isn't very bright either.
>>97012281Tutors DO create a more dynamic game because they let you tutor answers you need. It's more interesting when you need to play around stax and removal. But green players don't understand that so they asked WotC to ban MLD even though nobody had a problem with it as long as it was only used to stop green players, until brackets came out.
>>97012306>Opponent has Rhystic Study on board.>I have a tutor in hand.>I should two for one myself by tutoring an answer to their Rhystic Study instead of getting my own Rhystic Study.
>>97012326Obviously you should tutor farewell and get many-for-one
>>97012306eeeh it kinda just becomes a game of getting to the combo piece first the higher in power level you go.
>>97012117I played against this guy at Magiccon. He is a game journalist level player and he would repeatedly king make people while claiming it was an interesting choice while talking about how creative every non-staple card that got played was. Completely insufferable "that guy."
>>97012281german here, I have read this post 2 times now and I'm convinced that this is some incoherent schizo ramble that doesn't say anything
>>97012363You could say this about the whole polycule which has their heads so far up their asses they self-report and don't realize it >Trinket Mage joins Spelltable lobby labeled "no infinites">Mindslaver locks the table>Gets into argument on how he's not doing an infinite
>>97012277Yes and among those there are very few who would be played in decks that didn't already have those two colors because the natural synergies of the card just don't make much sense in 90% of decks in a different color identity or would simply not be any good due to being very pip heavy in the one color you do have. Still, there are several niche cases where certain cards will 100% be wanted in decks that normally wouldn't be able to play them, and above all those cases will apply to mono-colored decks which will undoubtedly be the ones that are affected the most by the change. Still, the point is not that the change has a fairly small impact given the hybrid cards that do exist, it's that the change has potential to have a very big impact given the hybrid cards they might print in Lorwyn and future sets.
>>97012369>This rule change is bad because of things that might happen in the futureWe should ban colorless cards because they might print a 4-drop that gives you protection from everything and draws your whole deck.
>>97012326I tutor my tyranid board wipe every time because my opponents don't play blue and let me get away with literally anything
>>97012335It's not actually, cEDH players are starting to learn that if you have a tutor in your starting hand you should use it to fetch one of your main value pieces rather than saving it for when you want to get a combo piece. But you're right in saying that the way you described is how tutors were mostly used in practice for a long time, but that's only because cEDH players who never played competitive mtg formats are fundamentally unskilled players so a lot of what was considered optimal play was actually dumb garbage.
>>97012383>I have never played cEDHIt's been midrange value hell for the past five years.
>>97012383cedh never looked like a game of skill to me, it was always prebaked loops everyone was just playing out and hope they hit first, with actual interaction always being who had the few best counterspells in hand as they tried to perform the same loop again.
How much dedicated interaction do you think you should run in your decks? I think ten is the maximum for me usually, but I tend to stay closer to five.
>>9701241011 cards at least
>>97012400>It's been midrange value hell for the past five yearsif cedh was a midrange hell back when dockside jewlotus and crypt were still legal then cedh now is a midrange apocalypse
>>97012410>>97012434>tfw you run colorless>tfw your "interaction" is basically Not of This World, Null Elemental Blast, and Eldritch ImmunityWhere the fuck is my colorless counterspell?
>>97012225>oh no ramp is king in b3!>god forbid (archetype i hate) is top tier there!
>>97012400It's actually looped back into turboslop again.>>97012402It's not, but not for the reasons you think. It's actually because the only real skill involved is in manipulating people into playing to your advantage and forcing ties whenever that doesn't work.
>>97012498It counters Farwell, you need anything else? If you do, there's Null Brooch.
>>97012545Fuck, forgot pic.
>>97012550Gimme a CC instant "counter target spell" dammit.
>>97012410It really depends.Is your deck consistently trying to be aggressive from that start? In that case holding up interaction can just be a tempo loss and counterspells and/or stuff that protects your board is more important.Does your deck usually take a while to get going? In that case you might want more removal, but if you find you usually spend the first few turns ramping and playing other noncreatures spells it might be better to run more wraths than spot removal.There's always obvious shit like if you're playing white you're playing swords and path unless you deliberately don't want to play those cards because whatever, sure, but aside from that you need to take into consideration the play patterns of your deck. That being said I try to run 10-15 pieces of interaction spread over all types (not counting board protection), and now that you have so much interaction stapled onto lands the opportunity cost is really low.
>>97012410the golden rule I learned from anon is ~20 points of interaction in the deck. that includes board wipes and protection.>5definitely too low, even if you are talking about removal only. you should run a mix of very cheap interaction, and interaction that synergizes with your deck (like creatures that fight/destroy/deal damage on ETB for rampy/cheaty decks).>>97012567what this anon says. 15 points of interaction is solid, and most decks can reach that easily.
im looking to start playing with a friend group that has been playing for a whilewhat precon(s) do you nerds reccomend?
>>97012622The simic duskmourne one. Zimone, Myster Unraveler I believe is the commander.
>>97012622Depends on what you have available to you. The Final Fantasy precons are good, so are the ones from Edge of Eternities and Tarkir Dragonstorm. Quick Draw from OTJ and the black/red one from Duskmourn are also very good. The Warhammer 40k precons are also very strong right out of the box and have insane value, but good luck finding one for MSRP.
>>97012622any recent one that looks cool to you. personally, I liked tarkir dragonstorm , especially the azban armor set was easy, fun mechanics.>>97012655this. warhammer necrons are probably the easiest one to play, and tyranids have an extremely strong alternative commander with magus lucea kane, which also also extremely easy to build.
>>97012593>15-20Fucking how? I generally run like 5 at most. Are you using every counterspell known to man?
>>97012691>UBslopper thinks interaction strictly means counterspellsLmao faggot
>>97012498You have to play blue if you want counterspells.
>>97012622The lotr aragorn one is pretty good and easy to pilot. Still pretty cheap on Amazon I think Get the mh3 eldrazi one if you really want to dunk on your friends
>>97012691interaction means interacting with the stack AND board. this guy here is interaction.
What's the best commander for a good ol' Jund valuepile? I miss playing a super grindy strategy.
Why run removal when I can just run the stuff that needs to be removed instead?
Anyone ever print any decent proxies at staples? I printed a test batch but they came out a bit fuzzy.
>>97012831Ulalek is a goofy mess right out of the box. Zhulodok is far more consistent, but he also requires work to get all the trash out and replaced with the titans.
>>97012907In that case you run removal for the things that make you lose the game dingus. If you're playing, for example, a go wide tokens deck and you go why would I run board wipes? I'm the reason everyone else needs board wipes! Then your entire deck folds to a Ghostly Prison and then you come here and complain about gay tryhard stax players rather than run enchantment removal.
>>97012905Depends on the flavour of value pile you wanna play. Korvold, Henzie and Lord Windgrace are all good candidates.
>>97012907that works against bad decks. good decks will remove your shit while they continue to drop their game enders unchallenged.
>>97011427Awful post cause most "complexity" (unreusable mechanical soup) is with UB for flavor purposes.
>>97012367The fag did that?
>>97012914Depends on what paper I ordered it on and the printer type (ink vs toner).There's also the matter of what res of images I used. I've been retarded and printed shit res images, file properties matter more than a quick glance.
>>97013096yes lmao
>>97012914Yeah. Use a better image and make sure you scale it properly
>>97013181In your experience was ink better than toner? I have card stock at home and I really don't want to buy more than the one cyclonic rift I got out of a pack
i like the hybrid rules change and want it to happenanyone that gets confused about it is stupid
>>97013253literally no one is confused.
>>97013264you haven't been reading enough posts and comments, some people are definitely confused
>>97013253The color is on the card
>>97013335what are you trying to say here
>>97013217Ink is for photos because the intent is to look nice, catch is that it's not as economic.Toner is for documents because you don't care about things looking that nice, but it's cheaper.Go watch just about any video on making nice proxies, they all use inkjets for a reason.If you feel overwhelmed or confused you're probably better off throwing money at your problem rather than your time.
>>97013315Cool, you tell the person once and now they know. Just like with extort, firebending, etc.The solution shouldn't be to make things dumber (that's now we're littered with morons here), it should be to make people smarter.
At least they finally print more hyperspecific hybrid cards.B/G- Destroy target artifact creature, enchantment creature, or creature with flying.
>>97013426You can't make people smarter but you can make them more knowledgeable. So unfortunately we have to make things dumber.
>>97013390For >>97013315
>>97013426the problem is that people have already been told, that's whole reason everyone is talking about it in the first place. they didn't understand after being told
>>97013453both of those are me
>>97012400>midrangeWhat exactly does this imply. I've seen this used so much but rarely with a specific meaning. Often I just see people use it to mean playing on curve.
>>97013474Master of none mechanically within its color value(s)
>>97013474It's control-aggro.
>>97013457Not agreeing ≠ not understanding
>>97013438With people like you yeah I'd imagine why you would prefer the dumber route.>>97013457Then you beat the correct way into their head until they get it. If you see someone spell "magic" as "majic", you tell them they're wrong and you correct them until they understand and retain the information.
>>97013516no, there were misunderstandings as well.
>place order from place that has 1 kind of booster>place order from other place that has 2nd kind of booster>accidentally order a Beginner Box from bothi'm gonna sell one of them heavily discounted to evade the scalper allegations, I didn't mean to :(
>>97011427i remember during the first reveals of the avatar set when we thought all we would get was ally synergy and a bunch of lessons
>>97012214Which pod? I like listening to stuff like that even if I'm not too versed in the subjects being spoken about
Art of the Monster Hunter Secret Lair is out
>>97013584how the fuck do you accidentally order two entire box productsare you illiteratedo you have dyscalculia and didn't notice the jump in price
>>97011427This is partially WOTC being autistic I remember in the original dragons of tarkir, prowess wasn't evergreen yet, but it was in Kahn's of tarkir and fate reforged. So they didn't want to include the word "prowess" in dragons or tarkirSo instead they printed multiple cards that effectively had prowess, but the card didn't actually have the keyword "prowess". This was when I first started noticing how retarded they were and even despite the keyword system they were already collapsing under their own weight. They have done this countless other times with mechanics like flashback or ninjutsu, all sorts of things really To add further irony they made prowess evergreen shortly after.
>>97013716literally no one thought thatfirst of all, it was incredibly obvious when we even just HEARD of the set that each bending style would have an abilitysecond of all, the very first card we saw of the set mentioned those abilities
>>97013733I've never been so enraged by a SLD beforeDual-Bladed Hunter-> Balan, wandering knightvxcbcbv man fuck these retards
>>97012622>preconsthere have been some good ones recently, all of the Dragonstorm are good and have different playstyles/flavour, so those would make a great start imo.If you're new and want to improve before you get into more complicated stuff (no shame in taht) I'd recommend the white/red/black deck and especially the green/blue/red deck.
>>97013497So just aggressive but playing removal?
>>97013777>Creature - Cat
>>97013777i mean it makes sense to me. when a dual blade players stops tweaking no one gets to swing at the monster.
>>97013733Wow this is shit. What possessed them to choose this one to just be shitty reskins when a lot of recent ones were unique?
>>97013759You mean these 2? The dragon didn't have Prowess, Prowess because people tend to get confused on reduplicated keywords because players tend to think its a misprint.
>>97013844secret lairs only being reskins is a good thing
Is this a two, three or four?
Finished my Azula deckhttps://moxfield.com/decks/fp6-53bTgkuWDBmwt7RBRQ
>>97013884why the fuck do you think we're going to look up every single card for youpost a link to a goddamn list
>>97013939it's nice to be nice anon>>97013884It's a 2 because I'm bad at grading things
just pulled a Fire Lord Zuko full art, how does one even go about selling a very expensive card?>>97013911just realised deadly rollick exiles 2 creatures for free kek, godspeed anon
>>97013972>how does one even go about selling a very expensive card?you can try to sell it very aggressively by asking for, say, half the selling price
>>97013956>it's nice to be nice anonI agree.Which is why YOU should be nice by making your request EASY to do, not harder.YOU are the one not being nice, by asking for extra, pointless effort and wasted time.Post a damn list, asshole.
>>97013872It isn't.
>>97014049Im not that anon though
SOON
Hello everybody. I need help with my deck:https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/flying-monk-enlightenment/I need to cut 24 cards, but I'm not sure what to cut. The idea is:Plan A: Approach of the Second Sun + Scrying with Siani (or the various draw effects)Plan B: Fly people to deathI really like the flying hate-creatures, so I may have gone overboard on them. I also have a lot of flying monks and Ojutai, because this started off as a flying monk theme deck. Rune-tail is a pet card of mine, but I think it vibes well with the attacking-for-scrying idea, and with the vigilance enablers helps keep me from getting beat down too hard.I always suck massive ass on gauging how many mana rocks I need, and how much removal/interaction I'm packing. I tried to add a lot of bounce, as that boosts ishai. Doesn't have to be the greatest deck in the world, but I'm trying not to make a big pile of shit. Any feedback (even adding additional cards) is appreciated.
>>97014088TEARS INCOMING
>>97014010Thanks anon, but I meant the act of selling it more like, does it need to be graded or do trading people just accept it as long as it looks fine without any visible problems?I realise (and accept) I won't get 100% of the price it's listed as online hehe
>>97014104>does it need to be gradedif you want is as a long term "investment" yes>do trading people just accept it as long as it looks fine without any visible problems?the people that will pay the prices for these kinds of cards know what to look for to avoid being scammed so you can go that route too
>>97014204>>97014204>>97014204
>>970140982026, YEAR OF MONO GREEN
>>97014104Just keep in mind if selling it online shipping expensive things, especially fragile ones theres some precautions to take, and you can buy insurance for the product if you want which is usually a % of the insured value.I don't know much about selling expensive individual cards myself though, so good luck.Korra didn't deserve to meet Iroh.
>>97014096I really like this deck. I always wanted to make a WU flyer aggro deck. I looked through most of the non-creature cards. Propoganda and Ghostly Prison stick out to me. You already are creature heavy and have lots of removal and bounce. Do you really need these two to protect your from attacking creatures, while drawing a considerable amount of hate from the pod?Maybe cut these two and add two more mana rocks.
>>97013911nice, I'll add sozin's comet when it comes in. I ended up going slower and removed all of my double triggers. I converted my deck to azula and so far managed to get a 20x stormking's thunder on lets play a game. won 2nd game by having magar copy call dance with calamity a few times, then display of powering the stack and using rush of dread to finish off the board.https://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_parnesse>>97013956>>97014049https://archidekt.com/decks/17411880/dark_bargainhere's the decklist
>>97013864>velkhana as thatAbysmal dogshit.If I were to have to pick an older card to reprint it as I would have gone with pic.In a flavor sense velkhana loses and gains it's armor armor, and in the game it's literally an "elder dragon" too. The add isn't represenitive of anything really but it better than what they chose.Fuck it I'm making my own now.
>>97013884It's a two, maybe a one. I don't think it's really at precon levels.
>>97012117>erm if you don't like it then just make your own card game...>it's okay if wotc prints broken hybrid cards because they can already print broken colorless cards...I actually like snail but this video was mega retarded.
>>97012216Hell no. I stand with Tomer.
