The Razing of Westerland Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous thread:>>96990709>Thread question:Which kit do you want to see most remade for your army?
>>97008543>TQ>Empirestate troops but i would kinda want to see what a modern version of Empire Knights would look like>O&GI'm not sure Wolf Riders Goblins are just kinda old looking now and don't have the charm of say the Wolf Chariot which could also do with a refresh
huh the mouth of the norscan in the front reminds me of >>96993840Also i don't recognize who they are fighting.... the MTO for this week?>TQDwarf miners i think
>>97008616seems to be just standard 7th edition State Troops done in the Marianburg colour scheme
>>97008543>TQ:Would love a modern version of Skeleton Chariots. Chariots are such a TK thing that we deserve a nice version of them.
>>97008600Doesnt aos have basically a 1 to 1 update of wolf chariots?
>>97008709probably but it's not like GW hasn't double dipped in the past Maruders being the most recent example
>>97008543>TQGrail Knights/Questing Knights.
>>97008543>TQChaos warhounds or centigors.As much as I want centigors I feel like warhounds would be a very good kit to get updated as its used by both beasts of chaos and warriors.
GW should sell those plastic ships too.
>>97008685you know what I'm just going to say itThey took away the muscularity and the new marauders are all the worse for it! Where is their rippling, unnatural, body builder's musculature? They're just wearing furs and clothes, that's boring!
>>97009350It's cold doughbeit
>>97009384The lifesblood of their enemies and the anabolic chaos steroids pulsing through their MIGHTY norscan/hung/kurgan/dolgan veins would have kept them warm enough for any chaos lord's purposes. But now look at them! Bedecked in the trappings of the lesser men of the south. Pah!
>>97009350Saving the rippling muscles for things that cost more than 6 points.
>>97009350Bro there's snow on the ground are you insane
I cant decide how I feel about the Cathay models now that I am painting them. Because fuck me do these horses have a lot of detail but I have been able to do most of it in big blocks of a single color so its only taken me about 4/5 hours of actual painting time to get to this point. Fuck ever doing edge highlights on any of this though. Base and wash is good enough.
>>97008543>TQDwarfs- SlayersBeastmen- CentigorsBretonnia- Grail Knights
>>97009921Well they look great so far, anon. Very clean paintjob.
>>97008543>Which kit do you want to see most remade for your army?Spearelves.
>>97009921Bro, ive painted 12 of these fuckers. Took me 2 weeks. You seem to be going lightning fast
>>97009350They are as big as warriors now man
>>97010109thats a negative
i fucking hate how overly detailed modern geedub shit is, i genuinely hope my orcs never get a model update. i like the cathay aesthetic and lore but painting the models would make me kill myself.
>>97009350You don't understand. It's 2017 and we NEED the game of thrones furs and nondescript leathers.
>>97010080cav are always a bitch to paint.
>>97009350big fat ugly bastard miniatures for the big fat ugly bastard audience
>>97008685god i wish i could spend every cent I have on like 20 manors of the empire so i could do scenes like this
>>97010589Just build them from cardboard boxes and coffee stir sticks. They're really easy to make. Here's an example you can do here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs0kwCdgp3QArguably you'd spend the same amount of time making these as assembling those manor houses.
>>97008685>the snapped of torchI'm glad it's not just me.
>>97009350Monstrous Encounters. You're welcome. Assuming you aren't just a rancid, shit-eating paypig - you aren't are you?
>>97010792I already have enough marauders so I won't be buying the ones you're shilling, 3d printer-man, even if those barbarians are pretty cool. You type like a faggot, by the way, you should get that checked out.
>>97010981kill yourself shill.
>>97010792>>97010999fuck off and die perrynigger
>>97011055He is truly a pathetic human being. I assume it's a teenager because if he's an adult then I might actually pity him.
>>97011065A shitposting child will eventually grow bored and move on since they have an actual life to live. But a man suffering from arrested development will dedicate themselves for life, because they have nothing better to do.
this general is unusable because any criticism of the game even if it's lighthearted or fair leads to a cacophony of autistic screeching by this fucking faggot absolutely obsessed with perrynigger
>>97011275>this general is unusable because people call me out
>>97011281>Everyone must unconditionally love TOW and GW in every way possible, the slightest displeasure or suggestion for improvement is not allowed. Worship GW NOW
>>97011275STFU PERRYNIGGER
>>97011304Without sounding mad or poor can you explain why I shouldn't love TOW and GW?
>>97011352You are free to love whatever you want, the same way others are free not to love whatever they want. It's not that complicated.
>>97011275i have called someone perrynigger once in my time posting here, maybe multiple people are sick of this retarded sperg? ever thought of that?
>>97011414i have been called perrynigger multiple times in my time posting here for questioning rule X or not liking model Y, maybe some people are sick of you retarded Superga spamming your sad boogeyman shit in every thread? ever thought of that?I don't even dislike TOW but this general truly went to the shitter its release
>>97008543How are you guys so nominis you cant tell that the dragon head is from the warpfire dragon?
>>97011441If you're getting called perrynigger on a regular basis, maybe your takes are as bad as his. Maybe you're part of why this general is so shit?
>>97008543TQ: Melee Ushabti
>>97011444honestly never seen a warpfire dragon in person
>>97011055>perrynigger>recommending fantasy models>fantasy models explicitly designed by a guy doing "modernized 5th Edition WHFB" as his entire shtickSo you poofters really are just calling everyone who reveals you as the paypigging coprophiles you are with your boogeyman name now huh. I suppose that's one way to maintain the pretense you're not a massive joke in the eyes of literally everyone that's ever had the misfortune to meet, speak to, or even see you at a distance.
>>97011583They are /40kg/ and /aosg/ tourists. They've brought their "ur le Ben!!" cancer with them.
>>97011444what makes you think nobody noticed that?
>>97008543>Which kit do you want to see most remade for your army?Regular dwarf warriors / quarreler / thunderer kits. They're horrible. Especially the capes are just god awful.
>>97008685
>>97011711>"Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all!"
>>97009921>>97010080does warhammer fantasy have an "asian" faction now?? why would they not just make samurai? i would have bought a shit load of them..
>>97011800>why would they not just make samuraibecause that sucks and just because they're your fetish it does not mean they are cool.
>>97011808samurai are cooler than whatever that is. it looks like they mixed mongolian and chinese and dynasty warriors and that sound way cooler than the execution. samurai have a lot of customization and flair that would have been a good bretonnia foil. those are boring looking.
>>97011826>thing is cooler because its more recognizable. >thing is cooler because I THINK they would have customization >thing is cooler because it sounds cooler in my head
>>97011826Lol.Lmao.
>>97011836samurai would have a lot of alternate part options for crests, mempos, and helmets. you can disagree but if would have been more interesting and fun to have fantasy knights vs fantasy samurai. whf never had asian stuff in it so otherwise i never would have suggested it.>>97011837(you)
the still superior maurader sculpt:
>>97011826But GW wants to appeal to the Chinese Market, and making a Nippon army wouldn't do that
>>97011850Truth.
>>97011843There's already fine plastic Samurai cavalry on the market and instead of getting any other Asian country in you want more of the one that already has kits.Boring.
>>97011850old minis win every single fucking time its unreal
>>97011880Only in a certain context. Mad Mullah is far less imposing in person compared to a more contemporary sculpt for example.
>>970107923D printfags really are the ingredient substituters of the hobby.>Yes, it barely even resembles the original recipe. Yes, it looks and tastes fucking awful. But it was cheaper!Stop posting.
>>97011851it probably just is that because every big company including disney tailors their product to china now to maximize profit for shareholders, this is such an out of field faction to get before samurai if they had to include an eastern faction>>97011876>There's already fine plastic Samurai cavalry on the market and instead of getting any other Asian country in you want more of the one that already has kits.>Boring.what point are you trying to make? like 5% of people would prefer Chinese Calvary over samurai its a very strange choice for a faction undeniably. we could have even gotten ninja for deep strike units or an elite unit.>we already have samurai miniatures on the marketwhat your point? if you look at the flair that the bretonnian knights have on their helmets and gear the samurai would have utilized that way better. remember the last 20 years of people arguing on here about knight vs samurai and longsword vs katana? thats because people love both and it would have been a slam dunk to enable that in game. its common sense.people dont buy bretonnia for the standard commoner they buy it for the knights and if you are getting an eastern themed army most people would be getting it for the samurai.
>>97011908>this is such an out of field faction to get before samurai if they had to include an eastern factionit makes sense when you remember CA made a lot of money from their Three Kingdoms Total War game, and they convinced GW to make Cathay for them.
>>97011711The state troops are ugly and even the eavy metal team can't polish a turd.>t. painted about a hundred of them
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>>97011922The new marauders have more leather and spikes on them.
>>97011908>what point are you trying to make?You can read right? There's already plastic Samurai and ashigaru.
>>97011800>why would they not just make samurai?because of total war warhammer the games grew successful enough that they aimed to cover more and more of the entire warhammer world, and the largest landmass east is cathay, so that's an elephant in the room that they had to address either first, predominantly or exclusivelythe decision was compounded with the fact total war has tried to appeal to the chinese market more as of late and considers it a more fruitful targetnippon has been practically erased, so much so it's not even on the map
>>97011950and also cathay had just a tiny bit more lore to start from, and more importantly lore that wasn't something gw would feel embarrassed to bring up in the current year and take seriously pic related
>>97011850So good no one outside of a few contrarians in these generals actually liked.
>>97011945not in warhammer, and if your poorly made point is that they "exist" there are historical miniatures based on chinese armies as well so you have no point.>>97011950>the decision was compounded with the fact total war has tried to appeal to the chinese market more as of late and considers it a more fruitful target>nippon has been practically erased, so much so it's not even on the mapsad, this shit would not have happened if they implemented an asian army beforehand. they would have done samurai because that actually has mass appeal. and as i said to >>97011945the way you can customize your army and units in warhammer also very heavily favors samurai from a modeling perspective. just like how bretonnia has like 20 helmet styles samurai had a shit load of helmet crests. samurai versus knights would have been a better tabletop spectacle. the fact you cant understand that samurai would have lent themselves to more interesting customization makes me think you cant imagine an apple or something.
>>97011981The Orange Simca was also part of the original Cathay lore back in the day, but Vimto wizards and Monks were a Nippon-only thing, I think since they were a joke stand-in for the Ikko-Ikki
Should have dismissed the retard the moment he thought a x faction having any parallels with bretonia of all things would be interesting.
>>97011950>nippon has been practically erased, so much so it's not even on the mapI think you're attributing intent where there's none, and placing the blame and those who aren't even holding the reins.The simplest explanation is that the game devs knew that GW had no plans for Nippon, so it would be pointless to add it as an empty land mass in a map that already needed to squish it's continent into smaller forms just so they can fit. Khuresh and Ind couldn't be avoided because they're directly south of Cathay, but even those are just empty outlines.
Samurai are gay shit that have no place in Warhammer. But neither does Cathay for that matter.
>>97011992>there are historical miniatures based on chinese armies as wellNot in plastic.
>>97012001Why did they include Fantasy Korea then?
>>97012009i found some in less than 10 seconds on google what the fuck are you talking about? there is more to this hobby than what games workshop makes.>not in plasticYES in plastic. theyre historical miniatures.
>>97012008Both have existed in Warhammer since before you were born.
>>97012008i already said before that i never would have suggested samurai be placed in warhammer fantasy, but seeing as they already included some weird pastiche mongolian / chinese fantasy army the obvious fact is fantasy samurai would have been cooler. people on here have been arguing about samurai vs knight for so many years its a meme.
>>97012020Bolters and chainswords also existed in Warhammer Fantasy but were, thankfully and rightly, removed since they have no place in Warhammer. All of this done before you were born, btw.
>>97012020Guess we should have female space marines as well in 40k
>>97012023>olters and chainswords also existed in Warhammer Fantasy but were, thankfully and rightly, removedLet's ignore Shadows over Albion then, which includes both Bolters and Chainswords>>97012025Those old models were never listed as Space Marines, just Space Adventurers
>>97009384so?
if you dont think head option parts similar to these wouldnt have been the sickest shit and you think the cathay fit the vibe better as a foil to knights you are on crack
>>97012036The thing is I barely fucking care about knights to begin with. So this dichotomy you want between the two to be visualized is rendered null. It’s not even really interesting in a hypothetical sense.
>>97012013>1/72Or do you mean the warring states range from WGA that's been "coming soon" for over three years now?
I want to ____ a cute skaven!
>>97012054Firestorm games or something warlord too. They’re available anon. Nta btw.
>>97012044>The thing is I barely fucking care about knights to begin withyeah thats cool but factions in a game/ setting dont exist in a vacuum and relate to eachother. its called having good consistent art design and having coherency. i would even argue that the cathay could have maybe been cool if they tried harder but they are so uniform theyre boring to look at. theyre uninspired.theyre to similar to real designs to be interesting for fantasy and too fantastical to be used in historical gaming. there are a lot of cool chinese legendary weapons from myths and stories that could have used and i havent seen any in their miniatures.>>97012054yeah 1/72 like most historical miniatures, i love 1/72 but it filters many people because they arent willing to learn or paint them. i started when i was like 18 it isnt hard. just about any period of history is in 1/72. there are chinese miniatures in other scaled obviously but now you are moving to goal post. if you think there arent "enough" maybe thats the market dictating whats made? proves my point doesnt it?
>>97011992>the fact you cant understand that samurai would have lent themselves to more interesting customization makes me think you cant imagine an apple or something.don't attribute to me opinions regarding cathay or nippon which I haven't expressed in the slightest, I'm just telling you why they went with cathay and not nipponif you want a range of fantasy japanese go grab titanforge's dragon empire minis and conquest yoroni for some more out there magical stuffif you wanted expertly crafted, highly customisable plastic samurai, those were never going to happen regardless of the best intentions, gw cannot even make a good kit for bretonnian knights on foot
>>97012073I don't really like 1/72. The plastic they use is a bitch to scrape mould lines off of. Just suffer it for Amazons.
This general really does attract retards.
>>97012082perrynigger is just coping about no-one posting in the historical wargames general so he has to try and ruin this one
>>97012030>Let's ignore Shadows over Albion then, which includes both Bolters and ChainswordsYes, lets. I know James does.
>>97012082We should post toy soldiers.
>>97012104Man elves could be peak if they didn’t have such retarded helmets
>>97012073>too similar to real designs to be interestingso every human faction in fantasy? Wow anon you are starting to see why humans are the shittest fantasy race. >too fantastical to be used in historical gamingagain, every fantasy human race
>>97012074>don't attribute to me opinions regarding cathay or nippon which I haven't expressed in the slightestif me saying samurai would have had better modeling customization doesnt interest you then maybe its not a hobby you are that interested in. youre supposed to customize the miniatures based on your tastes. if you arent interested in that then you wouldnt get it but the ability to customize these miniatures using option parts or kitbashing is half of the appeal.i dont need you to suggest me a range or line, at this time in history you can model design and print whatever you want. my argument was purely me saying, logically, samurai would have been a better army, theme, and product and i listed multiple reasons. I would have bought that army and probably even customized some as undead and mixed them into my skeleton units as well for fun. to play THIS game.GW has dropped the ball from a design standpoint for years and i will agree with you there. i think the old bretonnian knights still hold up very well from 2000 or whatever it was. >>97012081thats fair they have a softer plastic and often you need to spend more time washing them. you are locking yourself out of an entire different side of the hobby though. the mold lines are standard. most people are spoiled by GW miniatures. most miniatures have mold lines. the fun of 1/72 is different manufacturers make their own kits and you mix and match those to field your army or make your diorama. very affordable as well.
>>97012059Along with Cathay and other sinoshit, furfags / troons have no place in Warhammer either.
>>97012113i think the old empire and bretonnia look decent. the various head sculpts of the bretonnian knights give them a good balance of fantasy particularly the one with the stag horns which reminds me of many designs like>>97012036regardless though my original point and one no one has argued against despite shouting "youre wrong" is that samurai would have fit much better for an eastern army. if nothing else, it should have been the first.
>>97012129>despite shouting "youre wrong">regardless though my original point and one no one has argued against Dude we get it you have fetishism on a culture you have at most, surface level knowledge on.
>>97012141what cultural understanding do i have of medieval europe to like knights? holy projection dunning kruger midwit post.if you take 1000 men and you let them play as a faction to fight with most of them are going to pick knight or samurai its not rocket science. you will get guys that want viking and you will have guys that pick other shit like mongolians or whatever but those will always be way lower in popularity. if you think something im saying there is wrong you are delusional.
>>97011800warhammer has a ccp approved chink faction now full of ugly, short, nasty, worthless chinese lacking an ounce of cool. seriously, fucking chinese people? they’re dirty, ugly, and weak and their culture is disgusting and embarrassing.a nippon faction with samurai and ninja WOULD be dope though. like sekiro and shit. honourable and proud and aesthetic.
>perryfag in WHFG>Kensuke fag in every Evangelion thread>/pol/ niggers turning everything in the culture warEverything turns to shit.
>>97012162your writing reads like something some homeless dude by a bus stop would write.
>>97012115>if me saying samurai would have had better modeling customization doesnt interest you then maybe its not a hobby you are that interested in. youre supposed to customize the miniatures based on your tastes.I'm not interested in either cathay or nippon because it's not factions that appeal to me, I customise the miniatures of the factions I actually like and own, and neither of those two offer anything to my miniatures.Again, I said literally nothing about wether I would have personal preferred cathay over nippon or the opposite, I've only told you why the decision was made by others.
This art is fucking bad.
>>97012180well im working out right now and have been during this entire conversation. find a hole in my logic or just dont reply. maybe i could have sounded less confrontational wasnt my intention i just felt like it was a bizarre move by GW.>>97012185thread has gone on long enough i dont remember what you and i were talking about so ill end it here. what factions out of curiosity do you like?>>97012163sad thing is that there is cool chinese history and art and chinese legends they could have drawn from but the cathay army is as boring as possible visually. it just seems like a filler C rank or C tier faction which makes no sense to make over something that could be A tier. were talking about mass produced products here. which is why i was so shocked they wouldnt just go with samurai because it will sell a crazy amount.
>>97012187These Wolfships are very prominent in all the art and model photos
>>97012187no idea why they chose to ask for that art when the studio photography already offered the same image >>97008543
>>97012187yeah lmao, the miniature photography depicting the exact same thing is pretty good though.
The new Almanack article, which doesn't have anything new in it, it's just reiterating WFB lore about Norsca/Kurgan tribes.new transfer as well>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/uogxq24y/old-world-almanack-the-marauder-tribes/
>>97012215The transfers are more exciting than the models themselves imo.
>>97012187they certainly have no idea how to paint perspective correctly
>>97012215I think they could've done a better job on the God icons and made them closer to the actual symbols but as animals.
>>97012265It's interesting that TOW seems to have 95% of its new art by the same guy, L J Koh,wonder what made GW go for that desision, especially since he didn't do any WF art before this, it's all HH or 40k fan art
>>97012011>Why did they include Fantasy Korea then?That part of the map is not actually acessible, but there are mods that add Nippon and some more parts like Ind and !not-Vietnam.They mostly use re-skinned Cathay, some Chaos, Orks etc. to populate the area. The reason why teh game devs generally leave parts of teh map like that is because tehy just add in things when GW greenlights them.The game map has grown a lot over the almost ten years tehy've been making Total War: Warhammer.I wonder if there's a map that shows the growth over the years somewhere.
>>97012215man i just want VC transfers, why is it so hard to find white ink printers
>>97012272they tried integrating the animal with the chaos sigilexcept for tzeentch, that's just lazy
>>97012215Note that they didn't say what ethnic groups they are based on, leaving the door open for black chaos to go with black empire. Unlike cathay
>>97012327shut the fuck up, /v/ermin
>>97012215>there are 9 god specific transfers for each god>The smallest unit you can have is 10.Kinda meh but they look cool i guess
>>97011696Thats why I went with Oathmark ones as core. Finding stuff in line with their height profile is a bit tricky but Ścibor, Conquerer miniatures and Ragnarok miniatures are all in line so its not that bad.>>97012073Just build a Nippon army for WAP. You are only limiting yourself from having fun the way you want.>>97012327Southland chaos would go so hard>terrible monsters rampaging through damp jungles>african beastman. Lion, elephant, gorilla headed monsters. If we still want to go with goats gazellas would look cool too>human eating savages sacrificing humans to their dark godsMight make a small detachment like this for my Araby project.
>>97012444Banner bearer does not have shield
>>97012468You'd think a banner would be the best place to put a god specific marker
>>97012324IDK why its backwards, but the Tzeentch one is vaguely Tzeentch shaped too.
Just catching up on the Nippon thing, I'll agree it could have had some really interesting and fun additions for the game. I'll also agree Cathay could have a bunch of cool stuff but GW apparently has decided not to include it for some god forsaken reason.Nippon could have an army that doesn't have a single unit with shields or musicians but every single unit comes with a free banner and champion. Every unit can take 100 pts worth of banners instead only a single banner and load up on small pt generic banners. Give their infantry evasive instead of shield wall and such. A keyword for Bushido that does something like +1 WS or -1 AP every combat round if their champion is alive, and stubborn if their champion is alive. Lots of monsters, magic, and stuff like that.And model wise you get to have every human model carry a banner, other than stealth units. Lots of missed opportunities. 100% we're never going to see any of it.
>>97012432it aint wrong doe
The new art is nice.
Letting you guys know that another rumourslopper on aos' tga forum posted a bit about tow, implying new chaos (warriors, chosen, knights, couple of characters) and kislev. Take with a grain of salt and make of it what you will.
>>97012668Also note this guy is posting blurred images of the new Ogre models so he seems more legit than most leakers. But still a leaker so take it with a grain of salt.
>>97012668Why is TGA full of people Rumour mongering now?I'm also not sure how they would make the new WoC look distinct from the AoS kits
>>97012327>Note that they didn't say what ethnic groups they are based onbecause the marauder tribes have always been based on a combination of different barbaric cultures from the vikings to the mongols/huns.
>>97012679I don't think GW cares about visual distinction; all they care about is sales tracking so if the new Warriors look pretty similar to the AoS ones it doesn't matter.
>>97012679the only thing they can do is make them LESS chaosbut it's a pretty fucking retarded decision all around, people don't want another chaos warriors kit, they want the fucking mammoth and redone empire troopers
>>97012703>people don't want another chaos warriors kit,I want a new Warriors kit (with new stats too)
>>97012675eh, in the days of ai anyone can make sloppa shit out a character and then blur it so hard you couldn't possibly tell. What does give the new guy at least a little bit of credibility as that the other leaker had a big spergout over him posting said blurry images.>>97012679They've always had mongerers but they were pretty chill, then a new guy came in, attention got to his head, posts every damn week now.As for how they're going to make new stuff distinct I have absolutely no idea. They just said they'll beat the fuck out of cathay so maybe they're more mongol themed lol?
>>97012738Hung inspired WoC would be interesting but it seems unlikely
>>97012703I want the old chaos warrior kit. Now that I have 30 undivided 5th ed warriors, I need 120 more so I can have regiments for all the gods.
>>97012727>they re-release the AoS warrior kit as chaos warriors with their proper stats>AoS gets new chaos warriors because we cant have overlapIm for it.
>>97012775that's not what's happening
>>97012848well it should be!I have no idea what is actually happening and dont think anything is
>>97012703>the only thing they can do is make them LESS chaosGod marked chaos warriors? Not the full on AoS "super duper far gone", just regular god marked warriors. Also new takes on the demon cavalry/chariots.
>>97009350The new marauders are going for a more "grounded look", with a silhouette more reminiscent of chaos warriors. They look less like conan or a frazetta hero and more like someone out of vikings or GoT. This is a departure, but more in line with the narrative treatment of marauders since like 6e.
>>97012852>I have no idea what is actually happeningNew guy (reformation) on the aos' rumors forum is leaking potato pictures of the new ogres that are meant to come out sometime next year.The pictures are hilariously blurred and low quality and would have been discarded as fake and gay if not for another leaker (boole), who's proven himself correct a number of times recently, confirming the first picture.The new leaker has now said chaos is getting more for TOW.The top message is the most recent one.
>>97013095Cool, more chaos models and rules. Im for it. Would be nice to be the Space Marines for once.
>>97012110Elven high helms can be executed well. It's just that the militia miniatures look like the missing link and that the particular helmet in anon's image, being one of the worst offenders, has such a pronounced jutting brow that it accentuate the subhuman features the kit is plagued by and really brings to mind primitive ape-men more than noble elves.
>>97013095I would be surprised by new Chaos Warrior or Knights models since you get those in the Battalion box and GW sold a lot of those, at least the old Mauders were GW online Store only.
i think that warhammer fantasy is cool and mordheim and blood bowl as wel
>>97013165I agree with your take
>>97013165I agree, its is all very very cool and not gay (except Slaanesh who is gay in a chaos way)
>>97012697And black now
>>97013165I've been meaning to try out Blood Bowl. Can't decide on a team for the life of me though.
So there is actual hope for Kislev soon
>>97013548Maybe try the PC game first. It's a cheaper and easier way to try different teams before committing to one. I love the Skaven. Their ability to just run past everyone unharassed is funny as hell for me, and devastating for the opponent.
is there a market for oop warhammer stuff?came upon some old metal khorngors, metal witch elves, a metal warboss on a plastic hog.
The nation calls
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>>97013623Yes. A fairly decent one too.
>>97013601I don't know about soon but given Kislev is being paired with chaos in most rumours it seems obvious both will come in with the beginning of the great war narrative and I'd be surprised if GW didn't use that to launch a new edition. Thinking of what they have left to cover they need to finish the AJ stories of the dwarfs, beastmen possibly, high elves and greenskins so I'd guess we'll see at least three more journals before the next edition and Great War.
Let's say that I am a Norscan whaler who's been on trading ships a couple times, otherwise living my whole life in relative contentment in a hut on the fjords. I've recently married my wife and we're praying for fecundity so I can have some sons. Am I making offerings to Nurgle or Slaanesh?
I’m planning on running a winter oneshot for WFRP and am torn between 2e and 4e. I’ve dabbled with 2e and enjoyed it very much, but 4e has way more support to it and still floating homebrew to it. Which one lends itself to a fast start to a oneshot with RAW?
>>97013946Feels like virility is a Khornate thing
>>97013946if you liked 2e just go with that for a one-shot. 4e is decent, but it requires a lot of splat books to make it better than baseline 2e I guess 5e might fix this, but we will see.
>>97013959nice observation and I agree as wel
>>97013937fertility and fecundity is nurgle, 100%slaanesh has nothing to do with procreation, only sensation and, at best, artistic creationbut if you've lived a life of relative peace away from most hardships and eldritch extremes of the farther north, chances are you will have little to no real knowledge about the gods beyond that they exist and are important, so you'd most likely end up praying to whatever god or aspect is most predominant in your tribe, regardless of whether the real god behind it has anything to do with what you're praying for, or simply pray to all the gods, without truly recognising or understanding or caring that they each have different roles
>>97008543What the fuck am I hearing about rumours of future squattingof the empire into dwarves and high elves?
>>97013946Yeah, I personally prefer 4e, but if you are familiar with 2e and just want to do a one-shot, then take that.Should you plan on eventually turning this into a full game, then pick 4e. Might as well take this opportunity to learn the basics of this system.You don't really need any splatbooks for a simple one-shot anyway. The game is absolute fine in its basic form.
>>97013946if your PC is from the South of Norsca, they might worship Rhya, who is a Fertility/harvest Goddess.
>>97012675Whilst I wouldnt mind more models for chaos I can currently get away with using AoS or old kits so I dont really see the need. Admittingly the AoS chaos knight kit is horrible to build and paint so its resigned to purelty being for chosen knights to avoid having to build more. The only changes Id see change for the chaos warrior kit from the AoS one would be: great weapons being in the kit and a more grounded look to go with the new marauders. The lack of GWs is the only downside I really feel modelwise vs the old 7th(6th?) ed kit.
Its been one month since War of Settra's Fury release and Old World Builder AND New Recruit still don't have the Tomb Kings stuff...
>>97014029probably schizophrenia
>>97012162>most of them are going to pick knight or samurai its not rocket science. you will get guys that want viking and you will have guys that pick other shit like mongolians or whatever but those will always be way lower in popularityVikings are the most popular player faction in For Honor. There is a far bigger market for Viking memorabilia in "nerd dude" culture than anything else. Axes, beards, drinking horns, etc. Normies like vikings man, sorry to break it to you.
>>97014029TOW is set in an alternate timeline. After the great war against chaos, elves and dwarves will team up to enslave humans so they can't pull these stupid stunts anymore thereby preventing the end times.
>>97014321>Using Ubislop thats been culturally dead from 3 months after its launch as a reference. I say this as a WoC player, in most settings the viking faction is cringe and often shit. WHF is one of few exceptions that make it cool as it does so with the chaos warrior aspect, which is more a mix of the viking marauder, armoured knight, and evil deathknight aesthetics rolled into one.
>>97012703>the only thing they can do is make them LESS chaoswhat if they do more chaos and use the opportunity to make dual kits with forsaken mutations?
Couple of questions regarding the Knightly Order AoI.1. Does it have any potential at all? It seems to suck hot shit next to the GA list with massive limitations and no actual benefits other than being allowed to pay for more situational upgrades.2. Knights of the White Wolf seems to be the most workable with a decent upgrade and unlimited infantry. Do any of tge others have hope? I like the Blazing Sun aesthetics but it just looks awful to play.3. Is there any lore basis for pic related as Demigryph alternatives? I don't care for the official models but I don't know if these are referencing a real thing in the Empire.
>>97014699>WHF is one of few exceptions that make it cool Norsca actively drags chaos down as a whole and is cringe.
>>97012861Not gonna happen at all. That conflicts with all of deity factions in Aos.
>>97014707>Does it have any potential at all?Since you can get the cool Knightly Order rules in the GA, not really aside from roleplay purposes. It's just GA but more limited. >Do any of tge others have hope?The Knights of Morr's Ward save is pretty good, they're the second best IIRC. WW are definitely king though.>Is there any lore basis for pic relatedI don't think so, but they look cool as hell and fit the Ulric aesthetic so I say go for it.
>>97014708I prefer the Chaos Warriors aspect over the marauder part, my point was that I tolerate the later due to the former and the motifs of the setting. Vikings are still cringe 99% of the time. Most of the best WoC art is the none viking stuff still.
>>97014781Are Kurgans considered vikings? I thought they were asian steppes.
>>97014798Kurgans are scythians so caucasian steppe peoples.
i want to go home and paint warhammer miniatures but i have to get groceries and cook and shower and clean and do laundry and fuck…
>>97014926that last one sounds nice, who is it with?
>>97014926>Don't clean >Don't shower >Don't fuck >Still don't make the time to paint my miniatures
>>97014941i was just expressing my frustration through curse words…le sigh…
Roughly speaking, Chaos Warriors, or men covered up in black metal armor = Kurgans and vikings = Norscan? Is this how the different types of peoples are intended to be interpreted? Just wondering since some of the Kurgan art you can find does depict them as Marauder-types as well. Sometimes visually interchangeable from Norscans, although that can be chalked up to Games Workshop's different departments not being 100% in sync with each other.
>>97014948> Full time job> Wife> New born> Still find time to work out and paint minisYou just suck
>>97014990Congratulations on the munchkin, man.
>>97014990You're going to raise them to be a great warrior in the name of Sigmar, right?
>>97011916The savage shoulder seam line on display in that picture is eternal proof that nostalgiafags are braindead, blind, and bitter
>>97014967Norscans and kurgans are both groups of tribes with marauders, where the greatest of these marauders can become chaos warriors
Feels good that I grabbed a ton of the old marauders and horsemen before the new shitty AOS style ones come out
>>97015196are you so bad at painting?
I wonder if I should (in the future) get some marauders and use as allies in casual fluffy games? Or at least use to play fun scenarios either alongside or against my beastmen.
>>97015212New ones have less paintability
>>97015214Gors are basically marauders already, you would be getting troops that fill niche that is already filled.
>>97014951w-wait a minute, those are... perrys? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSANE
>>97015214Not that I play beastmen, but I always thought they should get hornless mutants as a sub-ungor unit of chaff. There's plenty of lore precedent for a guy who grew a tentacle or eyestalks to flee his village and join a Beast tribe as a shitty gimp who gets bullied. Not that you asked, but as long as you're taking suggestions.
>>97015214>>97015248Though building your force in smaller segments with 500-1000 point allied detachments is a good idea.I would rather suggest going with chaos warriors or even daemons instead.
>>97015267>I always thought they should get hornless mutants as a sub-ungor unit of chaffA turnskin unit that would be an ungor version of warped gors would neat, but you can easily just have them in an ungor unit, place the turnskins in the backline as they are low in the hierarchy even among ungors
>>97015307Rather put them in the frontline. "Go on then, into those pikes and arrows with you"
>>97015347>Rather put them in the frontlineSo they can be in the presence of the half horn, the banner and the horn blower, they shouldn't get that honor
>>97015363Beastman being just goats and obsessed with horns is the gayest shit ever.
>>97015363You're right, I apologize>>97015394Post your horns. You won't.
Can the mini heroes and generals work for Cathay? Not really pulled in by named characters and super expensive models
Kislev confirmed lads
>>97015428Always laughin when leaks are so blurry.Even the real unauthorized ones are so blurry. Every single time.
>>97015428That's clearly an ogre, probably from the new starter set for 2e.
>>97015462>grey moustache>red feathered crap>fur cape around shoulders>yeah thats an ogre
>>97015475Maneater anon
>>97015267I dunno, I feel like making a weaker version of an already weak chaff unit would cause issues from a mechanical perspective. Ungor's only purpose is to be a cheap screening element, what purpose could no-horns have that isn't already filled by ungors or gors?
>>97015533Nice, what STL did you use?
>>97015526Eh. Orcs have both goblins and snotlings. All about savoring the flavor. >>97015533Confirmed fake. James doesn't have a fraction of the discipline required to make the bear so small.
>>97015533that bear is proof this isn't realthere's no way gw makes a bear mounted guy wihout a bear three times that size in an obnoxious pouncing position
>>97015589It IS sticking over the edge of the base quite far which is classic GW proportions.
>>97015526Ungors have another purpose. Their bows are useful, and they are good for charge locking. Haven't needed to use them for locking yet since the update. Do units charged in a flank get the two side ranks to fight back? What if both a flank and the front are charged?
>>97015428>>97015533I have a suspicion that this is ai slop that was blurred with photoshop.
>>97015636It is, this isn't the first time they've done this.
Weird question, but how does chaos handle marriage
>>97015636meds
>>97015533It's funny that you blurred it and the shitty bear sculpt lost no detail whatsoever.
>>97015533>foot commander holding a hammerF A K E
>>97015648It doesn't. You either rape a random victim, or prove your strength by keeping a harem of rape victims in your hut.
>>97015648Great question. In the "Warriors of the Chaos Wastes" novel compilation we see Norscan marriage practices that I can remember off the top of my head. Wulfriks' novel is specifically about him wanting to marry a particular woman, and the protagonist of another book in that anthology was already married at the start of the story. (He describes his wife as being one of the villages most desirable women because she's not only blond and hot and everything, but has a mutation of scales running down her back to show that the gods favor her.) They're monogamous, at least in Norsca, and marriages per the Wulfrik novel seem to require the father's approval and are treated as a sort of political gamepiece just like in real life. There's nothing in the novel about the actual ceremony, because, unfortunately for Wulfrik, he doesn't get there.
>>97015693So basically, base it on Old Norse marriage tradition,n but add some weird Chaos shit depending on how far north you go
>>97015705That's how I'd do it. Norsca, at least in CL Werner's novels that I'm citing right now, is broadly Norse in culture down to a pseudo-feudal system. (Oddly featuring "Jarls" as regional rulers, for example, although they don't seem to be Earls under a central king like you'd expect?) The authors' pretty good about those little humanizing details for his Chaos characters, which I like. Kurgan and Tong in his novels get described with much more alien cultures while the Hung are destroyed like true retard subhumans for some reason. Also lots of cool little details, like fallen warrior's names being written on banners so that birds will read them and deliver news of the fallen to Tzeentch, Mammoths' Mahouts committing suicide if their elephant dies, a broad acceptance of phobias and unhelpful mutations because "the gods give all their strongest followers a flaw" despite being a society where people kill, rape, torture constantly. I do think it's an intriguing concept to have a still human, functional society that worships visibly evil gods because hell, they're the strongest gods, and they're the gods we have. Unrealistic? Maybe, but we were burning babies for Baal at one point in real life.
I have a question about The Old World.Neither my friend or I have played it but he's buying g prices for a Bretonnian army and I'm gonna get the Dwarf box.Here's the question.He said he wants to run his peasant archers in blocks of 5 because they're so low value that nobody will target them.Now I think that's great Bretonnian lord thinking but I thought it would make the most sense to run them in blocks of 20 because if 3 out of 5 guys doe, that's panic. 5 archers are never going to win combat but 20 with their 6+ ward save might with stand and shoot.He also said I should do that with my Dwarfs because he wouldn't charge 10 knights into 5 dwarfs but I told him it's free score. 5 dwarfs can be anywhere between 50 and 80 points.Why would it be a bad idea to run blocks of 5 archers?
>>97015783>Maybe, but we were burning babies for Baal at one point in real life.We still do, what do you think happens to all the aborted babies?
>>97015816Well, ignoring the fact that you are unable to run a block of 5 peasant bowmen as you need a minimum of 10, A block of 5 peasants is never going to achieve anything, probably not even a single kill. It's not a bad idea, it's an awful idea. But since neither of you have played the game I think it's still a good idea to go ahead with his plan (using the minimum 10) just so you can understand on a game level why it just doesn't end up working. I used to run a block of 30 Night Goblin with bows and poison before it was rightly nerfed, and even then the kills they got were pretty meager at best.
Why does the slopper keep trying his kislvev shit lmao, has literally never worked
>>97015856Ah, thank you.
>>97015413Pls respond
>>97015816Do peasants even get the ward?
>>97015413There is only one named character for cathay, who is not played often in competitive lists. Regardless if you care for competitive lists or not, it shows the regular heroes can pull their weight and soon cathay will also finally get wizards on foot and horse.
>>97015428got to say I wasn't a massive fan of the total war streltsi due to the guns just having those dumb axe blades, they definitely could have been a bardiche combined with a musket and it would have looked a lot cooler.
>>97015533i'll assume fake, looks like the bears base is thinner than the guy on foot.
>>97015428>>97015533>>97015636It is blurred AI slop. Perspective is fucked on the paint pots.
>>97015920I thought so. At least in errantry crusade?
>>97015214Im going to be doing that, although I love the old metal centigor models so much theres no way I can justify paying $140AUD for 5 of them, so I plan on using marauder horsemen as centigors.My theme for it is that they have been sent ahead of a large norscan raiding force to link up with the beastmen tribe in the area to coordinate their attacks. Eventually Ill be building towards having a wolves of the sea force and a beastmen force that can interchangeably ally with each other, just like my old 6th ed army I had as a kid.
>>97010617I specifically want the manor sets though, after painting and building one a friend gave me as a gift I genuinely appreciate it enough to want twenty of them. The details and extra bits along with the kitbash possibilites (look in the background of any empire army diorama in the forces of fantasy book, 'eavy metal artists can do so much with them) is worth every penny in my eyes
If bretonnia weren't already so powerful i wish they would add the blessed trebuchet that can fore into units in combat and take no friendly fore.
>>97016190Fire into units*
>>97016190That would be really nosensical in my opinion. Let’s keep the more gamey less flavorful stuff from TW out of tabletop.
>>97015428fake and gay
>>97016190It's so fucking strange, from being a hobbyist to a power gamer with the reboot.
>>97016696You don’t have to power game you can just not bring peg knights or exiles and you’re fine
>>97016730Anon, Bret roster is pretty small to begin with. I'm just saying, from playing the worst army in the entire game to one of the strongest is quite the paradigm shift. But yeah, spamming peg knights is retarded. Now Pigasus knights...
>>97016802piggyback riders for Ogres yay or nay?
>>97015307I've finally got my ungors 3d printed by my pal. 5 different poses. Tiefling models for the elf aesthetic. Probably going to change the backstory stuff a bit given the tieflings are female.https://files.catbox.moe/93t8bg.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/8g7j2y.jpg
>>97017012I like it. Fits with ogres gluttony.
>>97017012>>97017053That's already a thing
So are we getting a 2nd edition for ToW now that we are 2 years in or are they going to replace older models first with 2E coming after the third wave of Cathay models.
>>970176902nd Ed will be the next thing after last wave of Cathay models. But I do think we'll get one batch of non-Cathay models before last wave.
>>97017690I highly doubt anyone posting in this thread works for GW, so I'll answer your question with a question. Do you want a second edition? They've already shown they're willing to massively change and overhaul the game via FAQs, do you really want to buy all the books again? TOW's core rules are fine (apart from the removal of the magic phase but let's not get into that), the issue is balance and you can't fix balance by just launching another edition.
>>97017076I put skaven heads on these guys and called them slaves.
>>97011850It's even more impressive that each one was sculpted by hand.
>>97017720Why do armies HAVE to be balanced? I mean yea you don't want 1 army to be ubermen but what's wrong with some armies being a bit better than others at some things? I recall Skaven had NO cavalry, shitty mainline units and exploitable rules with great shooting except when they malfunction they explode. It was fun.
>>97017720I mean...... if we get actual army books instead of 48 page AJ's i certainly wouldn't complain. >>97017712I think we'll get a 3rd wave of Cathay after the upcoming 2nd wave, presumably adding crossbows/longma riders/compass/drum/etc.Cathay Wave 2 seems like it's happening at the same time as the chainmakers invasion... The War of Sand and Snow would be a pretty good point to give us new Chaos and TK models though...... on the other hand Settra waking up to fuck Chaos without lube is a pretty good excuse for Miao Ying to go home to unfuck their own situation so maybe 2E ends after the 2nd wave and 3E starts with the 3rd wave and Miao Ying rebuilding the army in cathay
>>97017769They don't. The problem is that the unbalanced armies aren't fun to play against and they warp the rest of the game around them. Individual armies are supposed to have strengths and weaknesses. The armies that are a problem (Cathay, Jade Fleet, Wild Herd, arguably VC) don't. If you actually look at the numbers the vast majority of the armies are balanced, there are only a few outliers.
>>97017769They don't need to balanced cavalry vs cavalry they need to be balanced army vs armyrock, paper, scissor rules
>>97017769Armies should ideally be balanced, but they can and should be asymmetrical as you described. Having weakness and strengths they can exploit or get exploited depending on the matchup.
>>97017786>Wild HerdI definitely agree, but it still feels surreal that beastmen are doing so well. It's strange because they still have all the negatives of the standard beastmen list, but it just doesn't seem to matter. I play them and I don't really understand why they do so much better, but they definitely do.
>>97014708>Norsca actively drags chaos down as a whole and is cringe.Adding much needed humanity to chaos is worth all the dumb viking shit, and I'd also make the supposition that a large part of the cringe in moder day viking stuff is trying to make them palateable for modern onions, while norscans are often extremely un-PC
>>97017752That sounds wacky but in a good whimsical way. Care to share pics?
I still like that one guys image where the best armies get 2000 points and the shittier ones get 2200, 2400, and 2600.But mostly because my shity army gets 600 more points for guys because I keep slapping runes on everything.Now I get my runes AND blocks of dwarf warriors.I just like blocks of infantry and a couple of "fuck you"s.2 gun thanes and more artillery.
>>97017049They look like complete and utter shit.
>>97018472Perrynigger I will strangle you
>>97008543Does anyone play Empire? Seems like I never ever see them or a discussion on them :(
>>97018541Because they are generic. Empire fans should just play historical systems
>>97018472I am not perrynigger and I endorse this message.
>>97018570>>97018573Oh :( I think they’re pretty cool
>>97018613They are cool anon that kind of hostile toxicity can only be perrynigger don't take it to heart.
The more I think about high elves the more dumb they seem.
>>97018649Naggarothi hands typed this
im looking online and there are some cool undead skeleton samurai models, do you think some kind of undead samurai army could work?
>>97018639Can I really be a perrynigger if I play cathay?
>>97018639go back, hugbox faggot
>>97018733Mother fucker how are the empire not great? Your China loving fags are a joke
>>97008543What’s a decent army to start as a beginner? I’ve heard people say anything from empire to dwarves to warriors of chaos
>>97018771ogres
>>97018770what are you talking about retard? I love and collect Empire, and I intensely dislike Cathay. I was calling anon out for whinging about "muh hostility", as if this general (and 4chan as a whole) hasn't always been a cesspit of toxicity and aggression
>>97012187Where the FUCK are the women of color?
>>97018793Its faint, but the figure in front is actually a woman and shes black.
>>97018703>plays human factions onlyyes
>>97014708Your existence actively drags down reality as a whole and is cringe. You could fix that quite easily though, I hear drowning is a pretty chill way to go.
>>97008709>>97008750They do and it's a phenomenal set of models
>>97017949>Adding much needed humanity to chaosis it really? The only time where I found it palpable was in gaunts ghosts blood pact. >>97018921uh oh someone had a melty.
>>97018774Not a real army in TOW
>>97015428What fucking noodlebrain retard do you have to be to even take this seriously for a second, the proportions are obviously and immediately wrong
>>97018954They arent a real army in fb either. who cares.
>>97018960it's the same retard who posted the kislev box AI prompt and then promptly reposted it again with a blur filter because everyone immediately noticed all the AI goofs such as the spelling mistakes
Gonna do a single Terracotta unit to at least save time on army completion, what do you reckon to this test model (regardless of your opinion on the concept itself)? Lighter? Darker? Different tone?
>>97019032I think that kinda looks more like leather than terracotta. Maybe the brown base is too saturatedI like the result in this tutorialhttps://youtu.be/UwX5d_7kWKc?si=S7gdAdioNefyRZfQIt'd probably look better with the metal weapons and few other details colored in like yours
>>97019032Looks a bit too brown. Terracotta is more reddish.
>>97008543Are warriors of chaos a decent beginner race? I’m torn between WoC and Empire, I like a decent amount of troops on the field and not a tiny elite force, what do you think?
>>97019032you should avoid washes/contrasts and use way more drybrushing
>>97019032Ngl this read more like he had a cauldron of sewage dumped on him.
>want to collect Dark Elves so I can have an army of sexy sorceresses and scantily clad gladiatrices >realize I'd have to also collect faggot "men" elvesany lifts for this feel?
>>97019111hey buddy, you've got the wrong general, /aosg/ is two clicks down
>>97017720>Do you want a second edition?NTA but I want as many editions as it takes to unfuck the rules for characters on monsters. I seem to be the only one having such an issue with it as my posts regarding this never get any replies, but it makes the game and listbuilding so incredibly unfun if there is an unkillable unit that does not play the same game as the rest of the armies.Also incredibly boring compared to the old rules where characters could continue on foot after loosing their mount.
>>97019111you can get away with making an all female dark elves army with a few considerations>big bitch elves unit where you spend most of your core points for>aos snake bitches proxying for crossbows and/or crossbow elves headswapped with spare sisters of slaughter/snake elves heads
>>97012163If Samurai were in warhammer, they should be a chaos factionThat's the only way they'll be interesting to me
>>97019046Literally the same recipe I followed anon. Perhaps it's the lighting.>>97019081>>97019048Thanks for the input, though the model is mostly drybrush with Ryza Rust over the Gore Grunta Fur contrast.
>>97019205>constantly attacking or scheming against Cathay and warring with themselves>trained a bunch of fucking skaven to be elite assassins, presumably not for freeI buy it
>>97019197>or crossbow elves headswapped with spare sisters of slaughter/snake elves headssisters of avelorn would also work, but they're not cheapblissbarbs too, but they have 5 ugly males
>>97019205why stop at one flavour when there could be both normal samurai, chaos samurai, undead samurai, and whatever else samurai, all at once, as warring states fighting for dominion of the isle?
>>97018793Women of colour are AoS exclusive, sorry. Can't have overlapping products due to the bean counters :^)
>>97019221It also explained WHY they would train skavenTraded for warpstone obviously
>>97019243Because that's lame and there's too many regional flavours of non-chaos humans as is
>>97019205>chaos samuraiSay no more
>>97019144Could be just you. I feel like we are way past the point where heroes on large monsters are an unsolvable problem, even moreso now with the 1.5 FAQ update.
>>97019288I prefer the ideas that they either learned it in secret, or that nipponese skaven are actually halfway decent enough things
I always headcanoned Eshin Skaven learning their martial arts by mimicing the master monks while hiding inside the temple bushes as to remain hidden.
Someone once posted a site where you can order OOP minis. It was called tabletop miniatures or something like that but of course googling "tabletop miniatures" is very general and gives me nothing. Can anyone help a brother out
>>97019318nice try, James
>>97019299Nah chaos samurai is coolerA chaos-aligned society is not unfamiliar, think of the equivalent of norsca but for the east
>>97019327>the equivalent of norsca but for the eastthat would be the chaos tribes immediately north of the great bastionand since the great bastion was built quite some thousand years after cathay was a thing, chances are that the cathayans ended up abandoning some of their own up there when they decided to build the wallnippon works better as the bretonnia of the east
>>97019318Assuming you're not alluding to recasters, wargames foundry has the rights to a number of ex-citadel historical and fantasy miniatures from the 80's and still sells them.
>>97019347>bretonnia of the east>evil warmongers who worship yokai (chaos daemons)The social structure is all they have in common
>>97019347>nippon works better as the bretonnia of the eastso boring but eastern?
>>97019363>>evil warmongers who worship yokai (chaos daemons)that's quite a few assumptions you're making, especially when the bretonnians are alos quite happy with going on bloody errantry wars and worship a fey entity as wellwhat tells you yokai are demonic spirits and not more natural spirits? besides your desire to have them as chaos samurai?
>>97019381>besides your desire to have them as chaos samuraiAs if anything else matters
>>97019347>nippon works better as the bretonnia of the eastIncredibly blandChaos samurai are coolerThey already wear demonic looking masks, this is just cranking it up to 11 in that classic warhammer fashion
>>97019397I would have the helmets look kinda like these
>>97019397bland is throwing another faction into chaos knowing full well the standard design elements and background of chaos is going to overshadow any and all possibilities of having nippon express itself as a faction.you want chaos warriors with a samurai reskin.
>>97019397It also works with them being enemies of cathay.
I want a twink kitsune army
>>97019416Who gives a shit? Do you think scandanavians complain about Norsca for the same reason and demand a shieldwall army of historical vikings in bright shining hauberks? No, they don't, because a marauder-filled frozen hellscape is perfectly fine for warhammer
>>97019416You need to accept that in a fantasy setting like warhammer the more important question is "how metal would that be?"
>>97019448no, because noone wants historical vikings and you get your bright western armors elsewhere
>>97019220>Literally the same recipe I followed anonToo much gore-grunta maybe if you are using the grey primer
>>97019460If you think the only way for a faction to be metal is to be chaos then your brain is mush and you don't actually like warhammer fantasy, considering the emphasis on having factions like the empire and bretonnia
>>97019461ExactlyWe have Cathay, so it would be way more interesting to give them some distinct enemies
>>97019463I used Wraithbone and I think it's come out too dark. Was hoping it would be warmer but I think it's just darkened it. I'm also working on a different test model with some redder browns
>>97019468cathay doesn't cover the samurai aesthetics, you missed the point
>>97019467Chaos *defines* warhammer, so much so that its the singular most unchanged element across all GW settings, shared by all of them and yet clearly identifiable
>>97019468Nippon can be an enemy of cathay without needing one to be chaos.
>>97019479your point could be flipped just as easilyNo one wants boring stock-standard samuraiPlease explain your actual plan for a non-chaos nippon that is as flavourful as say, tomb kings or bretonnia
>>97019480>its the singular most unchanged element across all GW settingswhat a way to convince me that your vision for a chaos nippon wouldn't end up thrashing any potential it has for yet more of the same chaos stuff, just with a different hat
>>97019487again>>97019485
>>97019485>No one wants boring stock-standard samuraiThat's clearly bullshit>Please explain your actual plan for a non-chaos nippon that is as flavourful as say, tomb kings or bretonniagive me some time and I'll post something later
>>97011850aren't those just repurposed goons from the bjorn bearstruck's regiment of renown? the champion is great, but id rather they have reissued the talisman 3rd ed barbarian and warrior with customization options for the regular guys. though those old metals are imo better than the later metal and plastic marauders, none have been amazing
>>97011900>3D printfags really are the ingredient substituters of the hobby.this is hilarious, though i also know a few people who've made one poorly kitbashed and painted force which they then repurpose for multiple armie. i assume its a disposition found in people everywhere, but it would be interesting to gather data
>>97019515Compare for yourself.
>>97019523do mednigs really think this
>>97019523Scandanavia is literally the sourcepoint for all germanics but ok? Like, the Normans who won over against the Anglo-Saxons were themselves the Frankified descendants of vikings, and lets not forget the Danelaw etc etc. 'nordnigger' is literally not a thing
>>97019523The nord/med rivalry has no place in warhammer because all the med realms are irrelevant hodgepodges and all the germanic areas are the stars of the show
>>97019144>>97019295Monsters are much less of an issue now with the massive amount of infantry buffs. To the point where infantry is a bigger issue because the fuckers do not budge against their natural counters (cav, monsters etc).They definitely needed a buff but they didn’t need ALL the buffs >outnumberd>fight in two ranks>parry giving fucking basic heavy infantry 3+ saves>challenging our characters It’s ridiculous when something like great weapons gets absolutely reamed by some pleb with a sword and board now
>>97019541looks like the ror reused the marauder sculpt
>>97019541>We have space wolves at home
>>97019523Kek. I think this theme gets played with very subtly in the background fluff, like how Nordland and even some Bretonnian lands like Lyonesse have a population with obvious Norscan ancestry, and they basically have to fight the urge to MAIM KILL BURN like the fucking Dovahhatty Unbiased History Germanics
>>97019348Nice website but they don't have the 5th ed Grave Guard with halberds which is what I'm after.
>>97019603>philosemitic memes for the historically illiterateImagine outing yourself as having watched that insipid shite.
>>97019625They'd only have really old stuff from the days when army books weren't a thing and Games Workshop was using historical minis for empire and bretonnia.
>>97019646Imagine being such a gay /pol/ or /leftypol/ freak that you can't enjoy comedy. When he's covering Israeli history he's Total Goyim Death, when he's covering Roman history he's Total Germ/Jew Death. That's the fucking joke you dipshit.
>>97019469If you use wraithbone instead of greyseer zenital over black the result is going to be a lot more saturated, like what you got It's going to look like leather instead
>>97019669>uhh you're a nazi!>or a leftist!Lol. We're really casting a wide net in defense of the autism omnibus. Why don't you read a book instead of drooling at little cartoons made by a buffoon?
>>97019541I like how they're hireable by all races except high elves even tho they're so blatantly chaos
>>97019060Both are fine for beginners I’d say, though depending on your empire scheme they could be more difficult to paint.
>>97018771I would say the only factions out of the core to avoid as a beginner would be wood elves or maybe tomb kings (the latter not even that complex)
i like warhammer more than i like real life
>>97009350anon, it's ok to be gay in 2025. No judgement
>>97011583ok perrynigger
>>97019421Shouldn't they be anti-chaos then? The Moon Empress is obviously some sort of Tzeentchian agent.
>>97020722perrynigger, an American, wouldn't use extremely British slang like poofter, which means faggot, just like you
I always thought it was a missed opportunity for dwarves to not have human mercenaries in their armies. especially in the roll of cavalry. With their close bonds with the empire, you would think they would have a few human auxilleries. OFC never to be part of the glorious front lines, thats dwarf work, but to clean up the routing rabble when they flee as glorified janitors in more open feild battles.Would seem like a good part of trade agreements, humies get some 3rd rate dwarven forged arms and ale, humies pay back with foodstuffs and some young nobility looking to earn their spurs. Besides adding to pure mechanics, its just a nice bit of worldbuilding. Always thought it was a shame you never see much of the human-dwarf alliance in battle even though its a signifigant part of the lore. In the third age LoTR mod for total war medieval 2, I always liked how the dwarven factions could get 2nd rate light human auxiliaries.
>>97020964>Dwarf>Relying on umgino
>>97020995imperial dwarfs..???
>>97021019that's humans relying on dwarfs, perfectly natural.
>>97020995>RelyI specifically said clean up duty. its "relying" in the way you pay the trash man to take out the trash so you can do something better with your time.
>>97021022living under empire law is pretty fubar my mang no matter how sweet you try to make the cope
>>97020995by definition, axillaries aren't something you rely on. they do support roles so that your main forces can focus on their main job better and not have to deal with less essential tasks.
>>97020995Some humans do live in the Dwarf realms but they basically do all the jobs that Dwarfs dislike, like Farming or Animal Husbandry
>>97008543Will they sell those ships as terrain?
>>97021083>you will never live as a human among the dwarfs and get a cute blacksmith wife
>>97017941Is it really that strange? The herdstone gives the beastman player essentially 200 VP for free, every character gets to take more points of magic items and mutations, shamans effectively get +2 to cast and dispel for free by being near the herdstone and another shaman, the army gets effectively unlimited ambushers and is generally very good at playing the defensive objective holding game that TOW has become after the release of the matched play guide. Pair that with obscenely powerful magic items, access to really good spell lores and appropriately costed units, is it any wonder that the Wild Herd is doing as well as it is? It's effectively beastmen+ with essentially zero actual restrictions in army building that matter. Why would you ever not play Wild Herd over any other kind of beastmen army?
>>97021089Does Wild Herd even play as Beastmen tho? You're basically rewarded for just taking lots of shaman and blasting everyone with Viletide and Summoning.
>>97021099And don't forget pigs. So many pigs.
>>97021083>some humansits actually pretty common to my memory. outside of the most extreme situations, most larger dwarven holds have a human sub community that do the things you mentioned. Like Karak kadrin or Barak Varr. Though they tend to be trade or production in nature and not military. Though with the Dwarf-empire alliance it makes all the sense in the world for their to be some human mercenaries or detachments in dwarven employ. Even if just for political relation reason.I always thought it would be kino if some Averland count had a longbeard bodybaurd or something given that provinces particular close ties to the dwarven holds.
>>97021129>I always thought it would be kino if some Averland count had a longbeard bodybaurd or something given that provinces particular close ties to the dwarven holds.Also, foriegn bodyguards are very common historically, since it separates them from local political machinations. Think The Byzantine Varangians, French Scottish guard, or the Popes swiss guard.
>>97021087I am increasingly convinced. Why? Multiple illustrations where the ship is exactly the same. GW only does that when they're basing it on a production model. (Or just being lazier than normal with their art?)
>>97021199I vaguely remember saying they were actual models not art awhile ago, but i'm pretty sure they were wooden ones so it's probably just reuse
i want to live in warhammer real life is horrible let me fight and die for something
>>97021262>tfwWait for the time machine, anon. We'll invade England together or crush Romans in our forests. Heil!
Is TOW ever going to get a second novel? What the fuck
>>97021351I think it was rumoured a while back that TOW is getting a more book.
I'm fucking FED. UP waiting for GW and their products getting back in stock. Do I grab this guy off ebay?
>>97021351>>97021407hopefully about cathay
>>97021525I don't think BL writers could write good Wuxia fiction
>>97021042This is fantasy not 40k. While the cities of the Empire are poor, crowded and dangerous, it’s something more akin to Brazil in our world than the grimdark of 40k
>>97021418Depends on the price but probably you would do better by looking at third party sculpts.
>>97021540Well Cathay isn't good wuxia fiction so it's a perfect fit
>>97021087hard no
>>97021594It could work>focus is on monkey king>he is called that not because he is monkey but because he is human and thats how dragons see them>joins forces with chaos to try and overthrow dragon lords and set the humanity free
>>97021608>>joins forces with chaos to try and overthrow dragon lords and set the humanity freeThat's just Archaon with a tiny yellow peepee
>>97021540>expecting BL to touch on wuxia Cathay is just going to be more primarch nonsense.
>>97021608>After the entire novel of him being called the monkey king because the Dragons see humans as hairless monkey we see him go back to his quarters alone only for him to transform back into an the monkey Sun Wukong (with a warhammerish name) and start laughing his ass off about this prank.
>>97021566I think he means morally, not materially. imagine living in empire VIRTICAL BUILDING with SUNSHINE instead of a PROPER hole in the ground with DIRT like an honorable dwarf. Empire dwarves almost universally live rather cushy lives as skilled artisans. Hold dwarves look down on them for "turning native" rather than them being particularly poor.
>>97021566The Drakwald is safer than Brazil desu
>>97019506alright, I'll now proceed to dump my shameless headcanon for nippon, I'll do it here so it's not clogging the next threadthe tl;dr is bretonnia of the east with ninjas, yokai and a relatively widespread use of magical items infused with their own sentienceit supports a number of historical models to be used alongside the fantasy ones made by the likes of titanforge and conquest last argument of kings>nippon was colonised by mainland humans long before the catastrophe and before the people of what would become cathay were rallied under the dragon emperor, they might or might not have met another people of humans already present on the island placed in the north by the old ones, similar to the people of albion, but of that people and their purpose, little to nothing remains in the present >the island was also home to native lesser draconic creatures, fimir, and zoats that tended to the second most important outcrop of the worldroots planted by the old ones, similar to athel loren but far smaller in scale, although of vital importance to the weave>the initial clashes between the human settlers and the local natural spirits shaped highly animistic cultures and beliefs that would teach the men of the island to keep distance from the fickle yokai of the woods and mountains>but with the collapse of the polar gates and the rise of chaos across the world a particularly dire tear in the veil of reality opened right in the north of nippon threatening this land with extinction, forcing humans and spirits to cooperate to fend off chaos>eventually their conjoined efforts allowed them to survive past the great catastrophe, man and spirit parted ways to live distantly again, but with a newfound respect and long-standing vows against the dangers of chaos
>>97021915>taught at first by the spirits during the catastrophe, the people of nippon developed a way to channel magical essences into objects, this may be a spirit, a soul, or a demon, either willingly inhabiting the object or being forcefully entrapped, depending on the method and abilities of the ritualist; more surprisingly still, this form of magic can also be employed by skilled and dedicated practitioners of the art to nurture an object so it develops an essence and will of its own, but it's a much longer process>see tsukumogami>to wizards learned in the forms of magic derived from the old ones and then the elves, this form of magic appears crude, for it lacks most of the arcane foci that wizards normally employ to channel much larger amounts of magic at once, but also inexplicably complex for the practitioner seems to channel hysh in an otherwise uselessly slow trickle but with a precision that would require a degree of witchsight for the light wind that few humans possess >in this way, the nipponese ritualist is able to intertwine, slowly and over long time, hysh within and around an object to turn even the most mundane of items into a masterwork of hysh magical bindings and wardings. in truth the nipponese don't have higher sense for hysh, but have integrated and passed down the teachings of the forest spirits, much more magically aware entities >the items so crafted can be used to banish, trap or exorcise gheists and demons, house spiritual allies into armors and weapons or scrolls, or even let an artisan to pour a part of themselves into their masterwork or nurture it to grow a soul of its own, so it possesses magical power. due to this and the wider animist beliefs there's a widespread tradition of deeply caring for one's possessions even across generations
>>97021929>during the great catastrophe the nipponese warriors fought with spiritually enhanced equipments, turned whole swathes of lands into metaphysical barriers with trinkets adorning rocks and woods or great gates, and even dedicated the souls of their own dead to the task of inhabiting items whose presence may allow an area to be protected from demons; even in the present a large strip of land between the demonically tainted north of nippon and the normally inhabited lands of men, is still occupied by many arcane barriers and graveyards and gates and temples acting as supernatural wards or demonic traps, largely sealing most of the corruption of chaos north >unfortunately no barrier is ever perfect and no technique is immune to misuse or entropy; over the centuries spirits can grow resentful of their role, especially when items get misbegotten, souls can forget their purpose and become haunting presences, demons might partially break their bonds and roam the land as warped amalgam of demonic matter and inanimate object, or further still demons might possess items that were being nurtured with care, warriors might fall prey to the wills of their own items, or ill-intentioned individuals can turn to forbidden and taboo methods for creating or nurturing powerful artifacts >see Tsujigiri>for most of the inhabitants of modern nippon, magic is not so widespread as it might have been in ancient times of need, and while there's a deeply ingrained folklore and many animistic beliefs and superstitions, life for most classes of central nippon is largely akin to that of feudal japan and not too different, in terms of supernatural events or beings, as one in the empire, bretonnia or kislev
>>97021937>the higher class of samurai defend the land from most of the occasional threats, including those of tainted monsters breaking through from the north, as well as ones emerging from the chaos tainted seas. it is a matter of great pride to hunt and kill such beasts, in older times it was customary to wear the horns of slain monsters, but later on that was superseded by ornamental crests of various designs and meanings >for the samurai of nippon defending the land is not only a practical necessity in the management of a kingdom, for their lives are dictated by an extreme and pervasive spiritualism and code of honour and duty, tangling the samurai in a complex net of relations with their ruler, other clans, and the land, even though to outsiders some norms and practices may seem alien or even hypocritical, such as their practice of working as mercenaries outside of nippon, or the use of firearms >to the few men and elves lucky enough to venture across the world and visit both bretonnia and nippon, the parallels between these two societies wouldn't be lost, and some elves would claim that similar entities, if not even the same one, might have subtly shaped both societies. >regardless of the truth, it is not uncommon for the samurai to answer to the pleas of aid from the shrine maidens, the only true practitioners of conventional spellcasting and intermediaries with the kitsune spirits of the woods and the yukionna spirits of the mountains. the shrine maidens may often request the samurai to protect a distant temple, and its surrounding lands and woods inhabited by spirits, or even venture out of nippon, in the lands of cathay or beyond, to defeat whatever threat might be putting an isolated sacred grove at risk
>>97021944>the samurai, despite paying reverence to the spirits and the lands as traditions demand, do not truly understand, nor seek to, their true nature or why certain locations are sacred. it is simply what's their duty to the shrine maidens asks of them, as well as to be pure in mind and body, often partaking in lengthy trainings, rituals and meditations, some extending even into their normal lives. it is a common joke amongst old world merchants to compare a nipponese obsession with the perfect tea, to the bretonnian's search for the grail>the truth to the samurai's duty is that just like the spirits of athel loren protect the network of worldroots, the spirits of the east do the same in the eastern hemisphere, doing so mainly via proxy, given their numbers. and just as athel loren has its oak of ages, it is rumoured that somewhere in the land of nippon is hidden a magical nexus of secondary but still vital importance to the worldroots, this mythical sacred tree is a legend known to many of the people of nippon and the iconography of this tree, or its leaves or flowers or fruits are common, as well as the practice of cultivating small bonsai trees, with some claiming the real thing may be just as small>the magical traditions of nippon have been somewhat influenced by the near cathay, and so they also have a duality of yin and yang, but they don't recognise the entire spectrum of the winds of magic like cathay, or most of the world, does, instead they ascribe all magic to only two main elements, the light and the dark, often portrayed as the rising red sun and the blue moon reflecting on the sea respectively
>>97021949>third element in this interaction, mostly sitting outside or in-between the two, is the element of the spirit, to a nipponese there's little difference between the spirits of the lands and the spirits of the dead, as well as the spirit within them or the one within things, all of them are at times called yokai, and even the beings of chaos, or anything else they might consider outside of their normality, such as ogre or greenskin raiders, but of course, for these outside destructive beings they soon learned to have no reverence for and they consider them separate from their own local yokai>to a wizard of the colleges of magic of the old world, nipponese magic appears dominated by hysh and ulgu, which permeate the lands more than other winds, while the third element of the spirit, always in conjunction with either light or dark, is a puzzling blend of ghyran and shyish, unbeknownst to them inherited by the dance of the forest spirits of the season of blossoms (kitsune) and the season of snows (yukionna), theirs is the belief that life and death are part of an inseparable whole >due to the above, more common than the yin yang symbol is the tomoe, representing the triad of light, dark and spirit, as well as the one between mind, body and spirit, and mortal, dead and spirit, and more interpretations besides. the similarity between this symbol and some heraldic sigils of clan eshin is not accidental, for the skaven that reached this land learned and took much for themselves, perhaps even some of the magical capabilities the sorcerers of the clan eshin possess, to the frustration of the grey seers, are thanks to arcane arts taken from nippon which may border on necromancy and demonology when brought to their most taboo extremes
>>97021958>while the samurai largely embody the light side of nippon, and the imagery of the rising red sun and its rays is most representative of nippon and its warriors, the ninjas embody the secretive and dark side of nippon. the origin and traditions of the ninjas are shrouded in mystery and researching the matter seems to attract their deadly attentions>amongst the dragon children of cathay it is believed that the ninjas of nippon are nothing more than the result of their younger sibling fleeing east, due to his rebellious inclination, to impart some of his secrets on the people of nippon and play with his own secret realm that opposes cathay. but in truth the ninjas of nippon are far older than the disappearance of the shadow dragon, and while this dragon seems hidden in nippon and in league with the ninjas, it is not actually in charge in the slightest. according to the cultists of Ch'ian Chi, which sow dissent in the cathayan empire, nippon stands because the moon empress has always been duplicitous.>during the history of nippon there have been a few rare and legendary instances of the greatest samurai of their respective age befriending the shadow dragon to the point it lets them ride it into battle, in an alliance that represents the sun and the moon joining forces to banish the greatest threats that ever rose to face nippon. it is not too uncommon for samurai to emulate such myths either seeking the dragon, or taming some other kind of lesser draconic beasts to act as mounts. needless to say this is a topic of fierce arguments between the cathayans and the nipponese
>>97021965>the empire of grand cathay has always been at odds with the nation of nippon, the latter has managed to stay independent thanks to its treacherous sea full of monsters, fierce inhabitants, and the simpler fact that it is extremely hard for the cathayan empire to significantly extend its reach without risking invasions either from the nort, from the west or from the south. but there have been attempts at invasions in the past, as well as various raids, from both sides >despite the oppositions, which are first and foremost carried out between clashes of the respective naval forces, it is not too rare for some nipponese to be employed as mercenaries in the southern and western armies of cathay, some rationalize this as a way to prove their worth against exotic opponents, others treat their mercenary venture simply as a mean to more conveniently reach and fight whatever threat they've been tasked to, others do so for simple coin alone>even on their own lands, some nipponese clans are not against mercenary work, often employing ogres "onis", and more rarely even those kinds of orcs and goblins and skaven that have, weirdly enough, adopted some uses and customs of the land. even if, by far, the majority of greenskins flock to the northern renegades. as for the skaven, the secret history between them and the ninjas is only a matter of speculation, with the most outlandish rumor speaks of a shadow war underway between the nipponese skaven and the other skaven which would want a foothold in nippon, as well as between the different creeds of ninjas; a war of deceptions trying to break or maintain an alleged pact between the ninjas and the founders of clan eshin
>>97021971>the land of nippon can largely be separated in 4 areas: the northernmost region, where chaos spills forth unopposed and renegade forces gather and recruit, the central region, where most of the population of nippon lives, the southern region, rich in sacred forests, and the strip of land between the northern and central region, with many temples, graveyards, magical barriers and remains of wars between nippon and chaos, this region is haunted by unquiet dead, such as spirits that grew restless and broke out of the items housing them, as well as the bodies of samurai that died unremembered in the region, the will of their magical equipment animating them, some for selfish or cruel reasons, others because they still honor an oath or duty even after death>the three aspects of nippon are reflected in the composition of their armies: samurai and their ashigaru, ninjas and their artisans, and the shrinekeepers with yokai of various kinds called for war. these aspects are not fully isolated and there are interplays between the triad. >for example the most common steed of the samurai, after the horse, is the yokai spirits that take the form of large canine or leonine creatures, found guarding temples and natural paths as seemingly inert statues. they exist in mainline cathay as well and were the inspiration for the artificial jade and jet lions the cathay empire uses insteaddone I will not apologise for this autism
>>97021983Never apologize anon, fanon and making lore is what sets us apart from Sigmar sloppaAlso unboxing for those who want to see the sprues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNrgNc4Z2xM
>>97021983Okay. Now go grab some fireforge, perry or old wargames factory samurai and make your vision a reality.
Yay or nay as Daemon Prince proxies?
>>97022061Fine by me anon
>>97022061sure, why not
>>97021992Oh shit, at the video's end he said:Cult of the Bloodied Hound is +1 weapon skillCult of the Carrion Crow is +1 toughnessCult of the Slithering Serpent gains poisonous attacksCult of the Fell Raptor gains a 6+ ward against any wounds caused by non-magical enemy attacks
>>97022061Who cares? You aren't going to play in tournaments, right? So long as it looks like what you say it is, go for it. You know, no >this puppy is a chaos dragon
>>97021992>no posability This fucking sucks. Doesn't look like a pain to assemble I guess. Although the two handed axes are going to be an issue.
>>97022190Sure, I'm just getting a general vibe check for how Chaos-y these feel like to other players. I'm not going to tournaments but I still want my army to look and feel authentic. I think it's important that my opponent enjoys the aesthetic of my armies as well.
>>97022061Yea, just put them on the appropriately sized base (50mm unless you're a homo) and paint them.
>>97022228>how Chaos-y these feel like to other playersanyone worth their salt knows they're ripped straight from the realm of chaos booksanyone thinking they don't belong with chaos is simply wrong
>>97022188Marauder Headman (what they renamed the champion model to) can have up to 25 points of magic items.Marauders 0-1 unit in your army can get Ambushers for 1ppm, replace Close Order with Skirmishers for Free or replace Close Order with Open Order for free. (the Ambushers thing sounds new)Purchase a magic standard up to 50 points.Marauder Horsemen now come with Hand Weapons, Shields and Light Armour for same points. They lost javelins.Marauder Horsemaster can have 25 points of magic items.0-1 unit per 1000 points can get Ambushers for 1ppm, replace Open Order with Skirmishes for freeCan purchase a magic standard up to 50 points.
>>97022279Still not buying them.
>>97022330Don't worry, my store is already planning on putting two aside for me so that should cover it.
>>97022061Who makes these? Very cool.
How much have they flushed out the different directional provinces of Grand Cathay? Should they do more of it? So they be at differences as different Electoral Provinces of the Empire a man? ,
>>97022471>How much have they flushed out the different directional provinces of Grand Cathay?Clearly not enough, they need to flush until that turd goes down the toilet.
>>97022471How deep is the lore of the aj's on grand cathays geography and culture and stuff? I feel like a proper army book would really help flesh them out. Also,>tower of ass hairLel
>>97022471the regions aren't characterised at all, only the dragon primarchs are
>>97018932I'd argue it is given that the nature of chaos and the moral shift of corruption is the only thing they have over the other factions, like that's the main complaint about chaos marines is that they are just whiny manchildren angry at dad, and worse of all they aren't enentertainlingly edgy.
>>97022471about a paragraph each
>>97022266Maybe I'm just overly sensitive, but I'm glad there are still people who are aware of some of the older Warhammer characters and aesthetics.>>97022424https://knightmareminiatures.com/Honestly the ranges for their orcs & goblins, chaos dwarfs and warriors of chaos are pretty awesome. I think it's one guy doing most of the sculpts himself and he does it the old school way, i.e greenstuffing the models.
>>97022471Not much, hopefully the Great Bastion AJ will have stuff at least on the northern provinces.
>>97022471>>97022500>>97022544>>97022545 Let's have some fun fresh out of some hypothetical background information for all or whichever one you would like even if you baste it on what we know about the dragon Primark in charge there .>>97022581>>97022617What is Great Bastion AJ going to be?
>>97022614>I think it's one guy doing most of the sculpts himselfI do recognise the hand of kev adams on some minis, but I don't think he's the guy managing the store
>>97022228Real men convert barbie dolls for use as daemon princess (male) of slannesh.
>>97008543What do you think of my WIP empire lads?
>>97022787Its a very early wip.
>>97022794It is indeed I’m happy so far with the white and red, lots to go. First time painting fantasy figures and I can see why people love it, units in a block are awesome
>>97022771>daemon princess (hermaphrodite)Fixed that for you, fren :)
>>97022919>Demon Princess (futa)Fixed it for you
>>97022966No.
>>97022787they are very good nigga. clearly youve painted before. theres a lot of minis in a fantasy army so dont go overboard on mook fucks that are meant to die. the army should look good as a whole and respectable from closer up.
>>97022787Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips.
>>97021992>>97022188>>97022279Shit yeah, you can still take the shield alongside a great weapon/flail, all the shield backs are smooth so you can have them slung on their backs.Very interested to see if huskarls/berzerkers get access to the cults, as huskarls can already take marks.
>>97022330Awesome man you can still use your old sculpts then and just get the rules off old world builder.
>>97022787The red and white looks great! Once they got all their little details painted in theyre gonna be amazing. Are you planning on adding a very little red highlights to the cloth?
>>97022806Party on, man. Good to see you're enjoying yourself.
>the screaming retards calling each other perrynigger or trannies are asleepQuick, everyone post their painting projects!First layers are done, on to more washes and then highlights and basing/tufting
>>97023909I am not screaming nor am I retard I just hate perrynigger. What are those supposed to be? I like them.
>>97023934There definitely has been some screaming retards in the thread lately, maybe other posters than youTheyre ungor bowmen, I fucking hate the standard ungor heads and given Im doing a real corrupted woods themed beastmen army Ive been putting dryad masks on them. The idea is theyve taken them as trophies and wear them, but theyve began to merge with their faces, and plants are growing from their skin. Will have lots of grass tufts and some broken branches growing from their backs (this batch have less branches than the other 5 Im doing). Heres a completed ungor spearman for my primal herd.
>>97023946>Theyre ungor bowmen, I fucking hate the standard ungor heads and given Im doing a real corrupted woods themed beastmen army Ive been putting dryad masks on them. The idea is theyve taken them as trophies and wear them, but theyve began to merge with their faces, and plants are growing from their skin. Will have lots of grass tufts and some broken branches growing from their backs (this batch have less branches than the other 5 Im doing). Heres a completed ungor spearman for my primal herd.That's honestly even cooler after you explained it. I really really like the trophy turned albatross idea.
>>97008543>Which kit do you want to see most remade for your army?The Sisters of Twilight because why have one hot elf lady when two hot elf ladies is a canonically feasible choice?
>>97024071>>97024071>>97024071
