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>>97102358Man, Filoni really knew what he liked.
Threadly reminder: play Star Wars tabletop games
>>97102479Shit, forgot pic
>>97102479>last session the crew made it to the upper section of Tarlana Tower>their mission: assassinate the Pyke Capo at the top>at the entrance was a force of Pykes and bounty hunters supported by a light speeder tank>the crew snuck around through ventilation shafts and set up a perfect ambush>they deceived their way through a bunch of clueless Pyke-aligned mercenaries, unaware of the ambush>they were caught by the ISB who are hunting down the sentient droids in the party, supported by a rich benefactor from the mechanic's evil family>they dispatch of the ISB (pic related) and capture the mechanic's evil sister>after 11 sessions of effort they finally make it to the penthouse and absolutely eviscerate the capo>next session they want to grab as much loot as possible before making their escape>however their schizo battle droid captain just rolled his obligation, so complications will arise
>>97102479How's Armada these days? I like that it's an accessible way to buy cute models of starships, but it looks like prices have shot up since AMG dropped the game in 2024?
>>97102479I'm gonna have a session tonight!
>>97102548Armada is officially dead but kept alive by a very active community. Sets are expensive because they are out of production, but there's a few on the second hand market (ebay and the likes). Lots of players also 3d print their own ships. If you are interested then look for local groups, they're likely to have spare ships to run demo games with.
>>97102358random question: those wrist mounted energy shield things some Mandos use, how strong are their rims when they're activated do you guys think? I'm doing some writefaggotry, and I've got it in my mind to have one of the mando characters be struggling with an enemy soldier over something and be in a position to activate it against the dude's throat/neck. I can't imagine it'd take his head off or anything, but I figure at the least it'd have an effect similar to a swift jab to the throat would
How and why did you choose being an adult Star Wars fan in 2025 over self-respect?
>>97102358What would you do in this situation?
>>97102497Do you have lore for Your Dudes' paintjob?
>>97104565Cry out in terror and be suddenly silenced?
>>97104565
>>97104565>squints into the distance>"the fuck is tha-"
>>97102639>kept alive by a very active communityThat's really cool to hear. How do the different factions play? I have an Interdictor somewhere that I bought stand-alone years ago because I've always appreciated the ship, but I don't know if I'd like the Imperial playstyle.>>97104565Same thing I did when Hawaii got that nuke false alarm some years back. Sit on my porch with some tea and watch the sky.
Convince me that the WEG d6 isn't the best official SWRPG system.
>>97104646I originally came up with this scheme as a sort of expansion of the Carnor Jax/Crimson Empire aesthetic. Red suits, black armor, red and purple details. But I feel like I should sit down and reframe the lore of my force these days, due to:>Royal guards no longer being playable>Me getting to make a Customisable(tm) Officer for the force
>>97104847It works, but it always felt clunky to me.Also, the skill system is a bit restrictive, i.e. if your party lacks a certain skill they're often shit out of luck, and in many cases this leads to one PC doing stuff while everyone else can't do much but cheer them on.
>>97104565Force teleport to another fucking planet because star wars is dragon ball now
>>97104565Sigh and lament not moving to Corellia instead.
>>97104226Sunk cost fallacy?
Any modules where you "storm the tower"? Prepping where the party goes after a corpo head and like the idea of fighting through an office building. Any system is fine, I can convert.
>>97104226What's your point, anon?Are you a 40kiddy trying to recruit here or something?
>>97102479My Republic starter box for Legion came in last night. I feel slightly overwhelmed.
>>97105191Sounds like you had shit players and a shit GM, because "people have specialist skills that give them an edge in particular situations" is just How Things Work, so it's up to a GM to design scenarios and narratives that have stuff for everyone to do and up to players to take some fucking initiative and *look* for those things during play. It feels "clunky" and "restrictive" to you because you're used to RPGs written for toddlers that spoonfeed you and hand out constant headpats for remembering to put one foot in front of the other without falling on your arse.
>>97104226How and why did you decide to cuck yourself to the point a corporation tells you what you can and can't do or enjoy? Allowing some corpopoof or idpol activist to ruin your enjoyment of the thing you like and drive you away from it isn't self-respect, it's capituation and cowardice.
X-wing player here, is this a good point to get into Legions or is it on fan life support too?
This any good? Apparently came out last month but I just heard of it existing 1 hour ago.>>97107596It just got a bunch of newish starter force boxes so probably as good a chance as you're going to get.
>>97104226Star Wars still has a shit ton of great content and some being made by fans nowadays, you just have to avoid the complete trash made by Disney and co
>>97107596Legion's doing great. We got new missions, new upgrade cards, new points and new announced kits just a few weeks ago. We also got the extremely cool /your dudes/ kits recently.As the anon above me mentioned, there are new starters which are like 60% off buying their contents separately. With the exception of the Empire, it's probably a good idea to buy two copies of the faction starters.I can give you a few tips if you want which faction.
>>97107596It's probably the best time to start.But I'd advise checking with your local community to try and get someone to show you how the game is played before buying anything. Or get someone to show you on TTS.
>ARC Troopers can be led by a Jedi GuardianIs there any reason not to do this?
>>97108074He can't shoot due to sidearm: ranged. From what I've seen, the best build for Arcs is either naked or with a medic
>>97108074The Jedi Guardian makes ARC troopers hit harder in melee, but they already hit like a truck.For the same cost a medic helps them live longer as >>97108115 said.
>>97108115>>97108207Does seem a bit redundant now that you mention it. So it's generally better for the Jedi in the ARF kit to just be a regular Jedi Knight unit then?Also, how do those extra leaders work, cinsidering Specialists aren't being sold right now? Just add a basic Clone Infantry model to that unit and call it the Medic?
>>97108364I'd just use a clone or ARC mini, with some kind of marking to denote the medic.In the old ARC troopers set their was an head option with some kind of visor, that's what I used for the medic.It's unfortunate that the new ARC trooper set doesn't have as many options as the old one.
>>97104226Because the garbage that came out after the fact doesn't retroactively make TIE Fighters and Kyle Katarn lame.Also the (very) occasional gem breaks free from the constant stream of modern shit.
>>97107402>It feels "clunky" and "restrictive" to you because you're used to RPGs written for toddlersWell I played that in the late 90s, and the only other systems I knew back tehn were The Black Eye and AD&D 2nd ed, neither of which I'd call 'written for toddlers' or as very spoonfeedy.But I also know that there has been at least one update for WEG SW D6 before they went out of business that I have not played, so maybe they changed some things.
>>97104847The main problem with WEG is that its playerbase is full of insufferable grogs like >>97107402.
>>97104565I'd turn away from it, pull my pants down, and spread my ass so the explosion his my prostate first.
How do we fix episode 9?Somehow, Michael Bay directed the Holdo maneuver. Sixty kilometres of explosions, lens flares and more explosions. (And absolutely no screen time for Palpatine. Or horses on Star Destroyers. Or Force dyad. Just explosions. In IMAX 3D.)
>>97109871>How do we fix episode 9?Just retcon the sequels. It's that simple.Some of the post RotJ stuff can probably stay, but the whole 'first order' concept probably has to go
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>>97102479Eh. Nobody plays them around here
>>97111433Don't be shy. Make a cover with Wookiee pondering why other species make so much ado about clothesness.
>>97111391>Hamill puts his best acting in scenes that were cut like mourning Han's death while shit like cantino blight stayedHonestly its so absurd its funny, what a shitshow. At least it got him in shape and a nice paycheck.
>>97111433Twi'leks are for sexand handholding
>>97109871You'd have to retcon the entire trilogy, as the problem isn't with merely Ep 9.At best, half of Ep 7 is usable, but it would have to be Remnants instead of First Order, and in Deep Core for a proper Imperial Remnants instead of Unknown Regions.
>>97109871>>97112479>You'd have to retcon the entire trilogyChallenge accepted. First. let's focus on Rey.1. The Seed is Planted (The Force Awakens)In her vision upon touching the lightsaber, among the flashes of Cloud City and Luke, Rey sees a kind, old man who whispers, "Find me." This is the hook. She doesn't know who he is, but he feels significant.2. The Mentor Appears (The Last Jedi)On Ahch-To, frustrated with Luke's refusal to teach her, she begins communing with the "kindly ghost." He teaches her what Luke will not, validating her power and stoking her anger at the failed Jedi Order. He guides her to the dark side cave, not for answers, but to fuel her resentment. This creates a tangible, dramatic conflict between her and Luke, where he is trying to warn her about a threat she believes is her only ally.3. The Mask Comes Off (The Rise of Skywalker)After Kylo reveals the truth ("He has been every voice inside your head"), the ghost of Palpatine stops pretending. The kindly visage melts away, revealing the monstrous Sith Lord. He no longer needs to mentor; he needs to command. The final film becomes her struggle to purge his influence, which she now realizes is a part of her own connection to the Force, and to reject the destiny he crafted for her.And suddenly we've got a truly cosmic story about legacy, choice, and resisting the seductive pull of the past. A story about breaking a cycle, not just ramming a fleet.
>>97112514And what do we do with Darth Emo, The Sith of Rather Informed Ability? You know the guy, wild hair, wilder temper tantrums, killed his father...The way I see it there's no redemption from a patricide (thank you JJ for destroying any chance for Luke/Leia/Han reunion). I think Kylo has too many midichlorians... I mean Force and Dark Side is the only thing that allows him to control it. He's not tempted by it but addicted to it. (Thank you JJ for playing it for cheap laughter with stormtroopers walking backwards in perfect choreography). And his resolution? He realises he's a rabid dog and permanently severs his connection to Force. Perhaps once the most feared man in the galaxy will become a moisture farmer on Tattooine like Owen Lars years ago.
>>97112523That's boring, and it glosses over everything else than Rey and Rey's story.
>>97111596Wait, what? Man, in retrospect giving control of a male-oriented IP to some ancient wine aunt hag and letting a director use a multimillion dollar movie as his own self-absorbed therapy session was a terrible idea. At least with JJ's retardation the forced rivalry between Trekkies and SW guys gets resolved by both bonding over how the mystery box man bad touched them.
>>97109871Holdo maneuver is easy to explain>Hyperspace ramming normally doesn't do anything except kill the ship doing the ramming>However the first order had hyperspace scanners, implying that part of their ship was "in" hyperspace to constantly scan within it>So, the holdo maneuver is just a way to check against any ship with a hyperspace scanner as it forces the ship to be tethered to hyperspace, allowing it to be hyperspace rammedThat's how I explained it in my ttrpg game to keep the world consistent, and it always made sense to me. Could always say that Holdo gambled on that being the reality and it payed off, avoids making her look like (even more) of a retard for doing a pointless ramming maneuver that would just kill her
>>97112986Honestly you could just say the First Order got cocky and had lowered their shields to maximize firepower. Like one line might have smoothed that bit out.
>>97112986>Holdo maneuver is easy to explainExplain why wasn't it used in episodes 1-8 then. It's not about explaining Holdo. It's about throwing away the whole integrity of the universe in favour of something that looks cool on trailers.
Would you like to explore the universe in a solar sailer?
>>97113309No, it looks extremely cramped
>>97109323>RPGs should require everyone involved to put in some effort and create an enjoyable experience rather than being designed as a mindless Skinner Box handing out endless participation trophies>NOOOooooOOooo it's the evil GROGMONSTER! BTFOing faggots like me who enjoy bumsex with other men with facts and logic! Help me fellow poofters!
>>97113325More space than Darth Maul's ship despite being smaller though
>>97113252Easy, nobody had hyperspace trackers, which are stated in 8 to be a new thing
>>97113607How did your life fail so badly that you must resort to this embarrassing behavior in order to feel some meagre spark of pleasure?
Say something nice about the disney post-OT era as a setting for the RPG, unironically.
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>>97107895I'm interested in Shadow Collective or maybe the Empire (although I have to say the loss of Royal Guard makes me sad). Could you shed some light on how to start please?
>>97114930Smuggling is significantly easier than in the PT or OT.
>>97107895What >>97114960 said but for the Rebels.
>>97114930I'll evaluate by sub-era>Pre-SequelsThe era of the Mandalorian and Ahsoka. Honestly a pretty fucking good RPG setting. You have a weak central government and an outer rim terrorized by African-style Imperial warlords, pirates and the criminal underworld. Every faction is somehow weak and struggling, the New Republic may be ascendent but it is quickly squandering the momentum is gained from winning the war. Plus there's tons of Jedi running around now which opens up more options.>SequelsEh, despite being the center of the movies there isn't much known about this part. The New Republic are total jobbers that die off screen, eclipsed by a militia force in episode 9. You have this strange temporary return to the OT status quo with a dominant Empire and plucky rebels fighting to take them down. You could run this era, but why not just run an OT game at that point? This offers nothing new>Post-SequelsTotal sandbox to GM discretion. My personal take is the galaxy falls into many regional powers after the total destruction of the Empire and New Republic. Could be a cool warring states period. Until that new movie comes out there's nothing to write about this era.
>>97114960Wait, Empire doesn't get Royal Guard? I've been somewhat interested in doing an Imperial force with Royal Guard and Imperial Knights. That's shitty.
>>97112986I'm taking this, anon. Some small modicum of solace from the movie that mentally dominated me for weeks after I saw it. Thank you.
>>97114930Literally EVERY faction is fucked up and the worldbuilding's nonexistent so it's a pretty blank slate to do whatever you want in. Plucky Rebels? Sure, have some Resistance fags trying to make the New New Republic, or maybe some Old New Republic remnants who've crawled out of whatever cave they were in. Want the Imps? Exegol's down but everyone forgets that there's literally a Death Star Destroyer still roaming around, that's something. Coruscant? Didn't get blown up because Disney was spineless so TFA blew up a literally who system instead. Jedi? Yeah, sure, maybe Luke wasn't a complete failure and one of his students is trying to start his own thing. Sith? Palpatine's plan was to have Rey kill him so he can inhabit her body, which she did after hearing a bunch of voices from "all the Jedi" and after Sheevy P showed Kylo that he's good at Force Ventriloquism, plus Rey literally buried lil' Ani's lightsaber in the goddamn sand, I'm sure there's leeway to say either he or an apprentice are around. Separatists? Neo-CIS are apparently a thing. Clones? Make 'em out of Din Djarrin this time for Mandobucks.
>>97112986I have never understood the refusal to accept the hyperspace ram. in all media with a jump, there's a brief moment where the ship spaghettifies before entering hyperspace. Visual shorthand or whatever, there's clearly a moment where entering hyperspace is precipitated by a sudden movement of the ship.>why not just use it all the timesame reason you wouldn't ram ships the normal way.
>>97115925>same reason you wouldn't ram ships the normal wayThis is retarded reasoning. Ships ramming each other normally is a trade at parity, where the best outcome you can expect is maybe taking down a larger class with a smaller class. Or in smaller scale a dinky kei car ramming a Ferrari, except the dudes in the Ferrari are armed and actively trying to neutralize the other car before it can do any damage. You're not taking out, say, a tank for the price of an old beater.Hyperspace ramming doesn't fit because it's able to cause far more damage far more economically. Hyperdrives are everywhere in the setting and the Raddus taking out the Supremacy along with some of its escorts is very much like blowing up a tank for the price of a beater. Economically it's very much like how IRL right now FPV explosive drones are having a big moment; sure countermeasures exist but the low cost of drones allow for swarm and saturation to overwhelm with sheer numbers. Anyone being able to pull it off at any time is such a fundamental paradigm shift in warfare in the setting that none of the movies make sense any more because hyperdrives are everywhere. The Rebels don't panic at the Death Star, they just take a few Blockade Runners and inflict unfixable damage to something that took decades to build. The Imps don't build the Death Star, they send a gutted Venator or Acclamator at Alderaan at hyperspeed. The CIS and GAR don't build droid and clone armies, they mass manufacture hyperspace rings and astromechs and sling them at anything more expensive than the handful of credits it took to build said RKV missile.
>>97116026except haldo needed to be in a Goldilocks's zone, at least thats my interpretation, to hit a tightly clustered formation. and didnt even do enough damage to prevent the first order from deploying troops and walkers.
>>97116144>except haldo needed to be in a Goldilocks's zone, at least thats my interpretation, to hit a tightly clustered formationFriend, this is a setting where battleships are more than capable of closing to knife-fighting range of each other (see Endor and Coruscant, even Rogue One for the Hammerhead ramming the Star Destroyer) and even small freighters like the Falcon can approach big capital Star Destroyers and hang out on their bridge. Needing to be in a Goldilocks zone is irrelevant when everything is easily that space intact and they're already using computers to calculate jumps.>and didnt even do enough damage to prevent the first order from deploying troops and walkers.Anon, there's an entire fleet of ships all capable of housing walkers following the dregs of the Resistance at that point. Not all of them are hit during the ram, and even then it's not about the ram being a kill-all nuke. The Raddus is roughly the size of one of the Resurgent-class SDs here and it tore the Supremacy in half; it may not have turned into a fireball but it's certainly mission-killed and will be stuck in a yard until it's fixed if it's not scrapped outright. It's a price to performance ratio that's utterly insane.Using only in-universe logic it doesn't make sense why Again, snubfighters and capitals/corvettes are regularly shown as mobile enough to enter effective ram range. Shields are strong enough for ships to survive the time it takes to be positioned. Everything with a hyperdrive also has a computer for calculating jumps. A hyperspace ram lets a single weapon cripple something many dozens of times its size regardless of shields. It's too effective and too accessible to NOT be doing all the time and breaks the narratively insanely hard. You even know this subconsciously, because you had to pull out some explanation for why you'd never seen them do something like it before.
>>97109871I did this with some guys in a writing group, the rules being that we had to fix the sequels while changing as little as possible. Contextual changes are fine and you can add bits or change the order of events to make the story flow better, but the meat of the action has to stay in.>Change the backstory. Now, instead of the Empire being defeated, the 2 sides faught to a stalemate and decided the only way for one side to win was to bankrupt itself and fall apart afterwards, so an armastice was signed.>New Republic focused primarily on freeing population centers and agricultural worlds in the peace negotiations, whereas the Empire gives up those, in order to secure mining and military centers.>After 5 years, the 2 sides open into trade to support themselves and the story starts with the Empire and Republic in an actually fairly Ammicable situation.>The Knights of Ren are the Jedi Order of the Empire, but specifically don't use Lightsabers. Only their leader, Kylo Ren, does.>The first film opening is mostly the same, except Ming The Merciless is replaced by the current Imperial Regent. Turns out that everything he has been working for is in jeopardy from some Palpatine Loyalists within the Empire itself.>He gives Poe a datarod called "The First Order">"The First Order" is exactly what it says on the tin, the first in a series of orders to retake The Empire if it falls to the Rebellion. Step 1, wait 30 years for The New Republic to get complacent, demobilize and fall into the old beaurocratic nightmare it was before. Step 2, take this data rod to the Imperial Palace and plug it into Palpy's old Throne. Step 3, await The Second Order.>They can't just destroy the rod as there's a bunch of copies that will go active if this is destroyed, meaning destroying it puts it straight into the hands of Imperial Loyalists. So, the safest thing to do is to get it into secure New Republic hands, where it's entirely useless.
>>97116638>Finn arrives as a detachments of Stormtroopers attached to the Knights of Ren and they kill the Regent and everyone that was harbouring him, taking Poe and BB-8 captive.>The Knights of Ren then use this momentum to stage a full on Coup, where their secret leader, a man called "Snoke" will take the Regency.>Finn is a staunch Loyalist to this new Empire, especially to the Regent, so, he never fires a shot during the massacre.>Kylo returns to Coruscant and Finn breaks Poe out of prison, stealing a fighter and getting shot down on the way down to the planet. They crash-land in the lower levels.>Poe, Finn and BB-8 make their way into the undercity to find a way off the planet.>Here, the meet a streetrat called Rey, who they accidentally discover has Force Powers (She doesn't like revealing it due to the stories that The Jedi will come and snatch her in her sleep and brainwash her into their cult.)>While running from the Undercity Police, they steal The Milennium Falcon with Poe's amazing piloting skills and blast off of the planet.>They are found by Han and Chewie, the Rathtar thing happens, only real change is that Poe is here now, whereas Finn is far less buddy-buddy, due to feeling like a traitor, since he's helping the New Republic.>The gang calls the New Republic to meet up with Leia.>Han does some fatherly stuff with Rey and earns her trust, convincing her to maybe ask Leia for training.>They all meet up at Maaz' bar.>Rey finds Luke's Green Lightsaber. (Because it's just better)>The planet is attacked, by the Knights. Instead of Ren kidnapping Rey, the pair don't really meet here. He instead stabs BB-8, destroying the rod. They retreat.>The New Republic track the new activation signal back to Coruscant. But they can't authorize a full scale invasion without Senate approval.>The Gang heads to Coruscant.
>>97116647>Poe, Finn and BB-8 break off to create a diversion. Leia contacts some of her old allies on Coruscant in order to get Finn and BB-8 into a position where they can broadcast to the whole Empire what happened on Jakku with the Knights killing the Regent.>Imperial Civil War kicks off.>In this confusion, Rey, Han, Leia and Chewie break into an Imperial Base where the bad guy who has the new Rod is. Rey uses her sneaky, underworld skills along with Han to pickpocket the new First Order from the guy who has it.>They then go to the old Imperial Palace, only to find Ren waiting for them.>Leia draws Anakin's Blue lightsaber and tells Han, Chewie and Rey to get The Second Order and destroy it. (Mentions how it cost a fortune to track down, but she got it back)>Rey follows voices in the Force telling her where to go. In the meantime, Han goes back for his wife. Chewie follows Han anywhere.>Shocking reveal that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, that she knew, but Han didn't. Han thought their son was dead, but Leia couldn't bring herself to tell Han what happened.>In the fight, Han tries to talk Kylo down, but he doesn't want to have anything to do with it. This ends when Han throws himself in front of Kylo to save Leia, who is beaten. Chewie loses it and beats the ever-living shit out of Kylo, but also gets a few wounds that he shrugs off at first, because he's a Wookiee. But he can't bring himself to kill Han's son, so grabs Leia and Han body and runs back into the palace with the pair.>Han dies, telling Chewie to look after Rey and Leia that he loves her, she replies she knows.>Rey puts in The First Order and finds out what this is all about:>Turns out, Palpatine made a number of contingency plans for pretty much every single outcome... But in his arrogance, never made one for "What if Endor is a shitshow?" Meaning that his loyalists have essentially stapled a bunch of his unrelated Contingency Plans together into a working plan.
>>97116652>This part of the plan was "In case the Rebels take Coruscant and i'm unable to escape beforehand" Where it turns out that the entire Imperial Palace is a giant mobile base where he can retreat somewhere to continue the war.>Kylo watches as The Supremacy blasts its way into Space, smashing a load of Imperial architecture on the way out (Because Palpatine is a dick and would absolutely have a 50 mile wide Escape Pod) and manages to just ram its way through anything that tries to stop it. They also pick up a damaged Regent Loyalist Star Destroyer from orbit on the way out.>The gang starts limping the Supremacy back towards Republic Space due to them having about 1/10,000th of the crew necessary to properly operate this bloated behemoth.>A funeral is held for Han.>Leia tells the gang that the reason Luke isn't with them, is because he's in hiding. She tells Leia where he is. Leia and Chewie set off on the Falcon to find Luke.That's my Force Awakens. I didn't want to kill Han there, but Ford only agreed to be in that first movie if they killed him, so i had to create a scene for him to die in. Also, i wanted an excuse to go to Coruscant, but had to be somewhere new we hadn't seen before.I can post up the second movie later.
>>97116418>Using only in-universe logic it doesn't make sense why Again, snubfighters and capitals/corvettes are regularly shown as mobile enough to enter effective ram range.Yes and a single A-Wing hitting the unshielded bridge of a super star destroyer sent it spiraling into the Deathstar. the precedents have been there the entire time and trying to argue the inefficiency of warfare in a science fantasy story is kinda being autistic. There are a billion billion ways for these stories to make better use of their far flung space tech than reenacting the battle of midway half the time.
>>97116725>>97116725>why do people not like this thing>because it's inconsistent and has bad implications for the setting>yeah well here's this one fringe case that required a lot of things to line up just to happen the way it didAnon, multiple things had to go wrong for the Executor to fail the way it did, none of which are easily repeatable.>ferocity of battle so strong that the Empire's biggest ship is unable to defend itself properly>shield generators taken completely offline>air defense guns and fighters overwhelmed and can't screen the enemy>loss of propulsion causes it to crash into a small moon sized object that they're trying to defendMeanwhile there's literally no reason in universe that a hyperspace ram as depicted in TLJ can't be replicated by literally anything or anyone.You wrote before that you've never understood why people refuse to accept it, and if you genuinely won't listen to all of the people over the years trying to explain why they don't like it then there's nothing I can do to change that. If you can't understand why nerds on a Tattoine nerf herder bulletin board dedicated to RULES-BASED roleplaying games have such strong feelings about an event that goes contrary to nearly everything established about hyperspace in all media (games, books, comics, movies, tv) for the forty years prior to it happening then I don't know why you're here.
>>97116802>easily repeatable>rebel force overwhelming the largest ship in the imperial fleet>in a battle in which the rebel force was hopelessly outmanned and outgunned not even counting the fully armed and operational battle stationc'mon now, even you gotta admit you are clutching at straws there.Besides, hasn't crashing into heavenly bodies always been a risk of hyperspace travel? Have we never seen the results of such a thing before?
>>97116886>Besides, hasn't crashing into heavenly bodies always been a risk of hyperspace travel? Have we never seen the results of such a thing before?Yes, but that's because going too close to a gravity well will pull a ship out of hyperspace. That's also how interdictors work: they generate an artificial gravity well that keeps ships from entering hyperspace and forces any that enter its area of effect back into realspace.Crashing into a planet or a star is a risk with poorly planned hyperspace travel because one moment you're cruising through hyperspace and the next you're violently yanked back into realspace so close to a planet or a star that you can't avoid hitting it. But you'll be hitting it with the speed and momentum you had in realspace before the hyperspace jump, since hyperspace travel doesn't involve actually going faster than light, but instead entering a dimension where distances are compressed.
>>97116026I agree with this post, but I will correct your statement on historical ramming practices. Traditionally, this have been done and survived by larger vessels crashing into smaller ones, not the other way around. Bigger ship = more material to absorb the blow.That said, the most common rammings in the 20th Century were destroyers ramming submarines during the World Wars. Destroyers, while small in that era, were still bigger than subs, and due to the acutely precarious buoyancy of subs of this era, it was typically a guaranteed kill. Not favored tho, because it does still tear your destroyer up pretty badly.Personally, I think the most interesting moment in the history of naval ramming was in the early years of ironclad warships, where various navies experimented with dedicated oceangoing rams. No guns, often very low profile in the water, and steam-screw power. Sail straight into the enemy warship, punch a big hole, and back out, hopefully impervious to their cannon fire.
>>97116652>she replies she knowsKINO>>97116658Overall, a very solid rework. I particularly like essentially cribbing the Imperial Knights and the Lusyanka hiding underneath Coruscant. Dunno if that was just convergent evolution or if you did that intentionally, but I think both concepts are cool so I don't really care how you get there.Best part of this whole idea though is Republic/Empire stalemate, and the plot centering around instability within the Empire.
>>97116886>forgetting that Ackbar ordered every gun the Rebels had to focus on the Executor>forgetting that this was the first step in the causal chain that ultimately led to the Executor's destruction
>>97117067the executor is like 50 times bigger than the entire rebel fleet by itself, and had its own support fleet.
So I only learned today the high republic was entirely made by disney, I had thought the high republic was the thing before the infinite empire. Being capped off by the acolyte probably tells me all I need to know, but what did you all think of it? was there anything in the concept worth holding onto?
>>97117155It wasn't bad first couple of adult novels were decent
>>97112983>giving control of a male-oriented IP to some ancient wine aunt hag and letting a director use a multimillion dollar movie as his own self-absorbed therapy session was a terrible ideaDo not underestimate the influence of Disney execs on the terrible decade, they were the ones ultimately greenlighting all the garbage.And it cost them actual billions of dollars, and they just kept throwing money at one bad idea after another.
>>97117155The concept was OK, it failed because it was too much of a mishmash of YA novels, adult novels, comic books and lacked a true coherent cast.Also, the lack of a proper evil enemy and BBEG, and no apparent plan to have a video game tie-in or even animated show really hurt the mass appeal.It's quite telling that the Shadows of the Empire multimedia project gave them a blueprint for how to do this, but they completely failed anyway.
Can I get a sentence or two rundown of the x-wing factions? The way I understand them ATM:>rebels: good shielded ships, abilities that help other ships>empire: weaker but more numerous grunts, few solid force users>resistance: stronger but more expensive rebel ships?>first order: empire ships but with shields>republic: generic force users>CIS: ???>scum: cheapest? special illegal upgrades
>>97118044>rebels: good shielded ships, abilities that help other shipsIn very general terms, yes>empire: weaker but more numerous grunts, few solid force usersAlso yes, but Empire has a bunch of things like shuttles with commanders etc. that can turn things on their head>resistance: stronger but more expensive rebel ships?Yes, tehy tend to get a bunch of tech gimmicks.>first order: empire ships but with shieldsThe FO ships are generally pretty good, also they get tech gimmicks like teh Resistance.>republic: generic force usersThey also get clone piloted ships, they can offer a lot of utility.>CIS: ???All the droids.Some very powerful commanders.>scum: cheapest? special illegal upgradesNot really cheapest, but they get all the weird and quirky shit
>>97117155The High Republic is the nucanon term for the golden age of the post-Ruusan Republic (assuming the Ruusaan Reforms still happened in the Disney canon), which peaked a few centuries before the prequels. That time period was never really explored in the old canon, since the comics (which were the source of most of the lore on the distant past of the Republic, aside from the KotOR games) jump from the end of the New Sith Wars to shortly before the prequels.Acolyte is kind of weird in the sense that it is the last HR story, both chronologically and in release order, but doesn't actually have anything to do with the HR multimedia project aside from taking place in roughly the same time period. And even than it's IIRC a century or so later and only shares one character with the rest of the HR stories.
>>97117054Pretty much, i wanted to explain the "But why tho?" of most of the terrible, terrible, terrible design philosphies in the film.The Supremacy makes no sense in the film, because it's supposed to be a mobile factory, but that makes no sense because it still needs resources. Yes, i stole the Lusankya idea, but that's because, if you're losing the war, having that one hidden MCV with which to start again, like Red Alert 2 makes a lot more sense. Plus, as i said, i think that "A Super Star Destroyer is Palpatine's escape pod in case Coruscant falls" is such a fun idea.
>>97118089>All the droidsWhat does that mean tho? Do droids work differently than other pilots?
>>97118089>>97118765X-wing droidfag here.CIS is the tricky gimmicks faction. >We have by far the most remotes, including buzz droids and probe droids. >Our ships have easier turns than banks. >We have unusual movement mechanics, like the HMP sideslips, Nantex self tractors and Vultures/Hyenas sitting on rocks
This is how faction balance should be across every game>Republic: Elite faction>Separatists: Horde faction>Rebels: Tricky faction>Empire: Normal faction
Are lista with just generic pilots viable? I doubt that squeezing in one extra ship will compensate for loss of all those unique abilities but I want to make a mydudes Scum list, small merc outfit that take on dirty bounty hunting jobs.
>>97119579That's basically how factions in Legion work.>>97119684Assuming you're using the 50 point listbuilding, yes. Although X-wing is kind of the worst game for /your dudes/ content - >90% of all pilots in all lists are named. Abilities mean a lot in this game.>scumHere is one scum list with a couple of generic Y-wings. I won 3 games with it so far.
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>>97120572honestly just make Luke more relevant to defeating Palpatine and it doesnt feel like a complete waste, even if its still a shitty film
>I don’t like sand. It’s coarse and rough and irritating… and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.When did George Lucas turn into a writer of Victorian erotica? ("Episode 2: In Which Our Hero Discusses The Texture Of Minerals Most Scandalously.")
>>97121697It's meant to be corny and over the top in a way. It evokes the style of the 1930s movies.
>>97121819Why do Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen look like hostages during "the sand" scene?
>>97121697See, even if the line is VERY clunky, i like what it's trying to say:>Padme, you think of sand and you get thoughts of things like drinking Pimm's in a deckchair. A cool, salty ocean breeze in your face. A happy day with the family. And i'm happy that you have memories like that. But when i think of Sand, all I remember is the dustball where i was a slave, passed around like currency, was won as property in a race by a flying gasbag who was slightly less shitty to me and my mother than everyone else who owned us and was then ripped from the arms of the only person who ever showed me ACTUAL love, in order to be raised as a monk. Sand fucking sucks to me.
>>97121819>it was supposed to be badis george the master of cope
>>97114930I'd love to offer some insight, but there's just nothing to talk about. The only things that's remotely interesting was New Republic becoming some corporate hellhole with lower level Imperials getting away with everything. Does it fit Star Wars? Not really. But it's an ideaI feel the same about Boba Fett starting his own gang. It didn't work, but something's happening at least
>>97104565What happened to all the people in orbit?
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Well shit on my dick and call me Sally, it's happening bros, it's really happening: Disney Wars has failed so utterly, so colossally, so unambiguously, that they're doing a full 4K remaster of the unaltered theatrical cut of the OT, starting with ANH in theatres for the 50th anniversary, in a desperate attempt to lure back the real fanbase.No CGI farting dinosaurs. No Preemie Greedo. And dear god the detail is fucking *crisp*. Honestly at this point I kind of resent them for it - how are we supposed to say no to seeing the original Original *in theatres*? Especially those of us who didn't the first time around. But I don't want to give these fucks any money.
>>97122078It isn't bad. You just don't like the style of Star Wars.>>971237034K77 has been out for years. Who cares? At least normalfags will come to realize how much Special Editions have improved certain things like the entire Death Star battle sequence.
>>97123703>how are we supposed to say no to seeing the original Original *in theatres*?With minimal difficulty.
>>97114930I like the First Order Stormtrooper armour. Or at least the original version that was in TFA. The modified one in the other two with the narrower mouth doesn't look as good to me.Where I think they fail, is that they're not intimidating enough to be the bad guys.Now, if instead Disney had of actually done something creative and new and not just tried to bank on a shitty nostalgic Rebels vs Imperials and made the Sequel era Imperials quasi-good guys or had them ally with the Republic to fight a bigger threat, then this armour would be perfect.
>>97123785It pisses on 4K77. Which isn't a slight against 4K77, the fanedits do the best they can with what they had, but seriously, look at the comparisons it's not even close. This isn't some cobbled-together rescue project of wonky old theatre-grade film, it's the actual Old Guard of Lucasfilm cleaning up pristine archive material.And don't imagine I'm a raging purist either, my favourite cut is Adywan's, but if they can make the whole thing the quality level of the leaked sequences watching it will be a genuine experience, regardless of clunkier battle scenes.
So what's the threads opinion on Shatterpoint?The minis look good. Better than Legion's, and the smaller scale appeals to me more these days.Plus that Grievous miniature is just killer.
>>97123976Do you like capeshit? Do you like when no unit ever really dies?Shatterpoint is basically Marvel but Star Wars. It is a pretty polarising game from what I heard - you either love it or loathe it. I suggest looking around your LGS for a test game or two. They got some things announced at ministravaganza recently, mostly sequel things, although way less than Legion.
>>97123999I don't have an LGS nearby. My partner really likes Star Wars and I saw they had a Padme in her EP1 Queen regalia box. We play mostly Mordheim together so honestly having units that never really die might be a nice change.Might be an interesting tactical challenge too since you can't just sweep the enemy team off the board. I've given up on finding anyone else nearby to play. There's a club, but all they play is 40k and I'm so fucking sick of modern 40k.
>>97123976I like shatterpoint for the feeling of hero duels and swashbuckling, it feels more like the star wars films than legion does but if you like mooks clones troopers etc then legion is the one for you
>>97114960Product availability isn't amazing now as we don't have all the reprints yet, but I can give you a few pointers.>Shadow collectiveYou should really try to get the Shadow collective starter. For the price of 2 units, you get 3 units + Maul. So I suggest getting 3 of these boxes, as well as a mercenary card pack. Then, look into buying the AA5 speeder truck, and you should have a decent starting collection.>EmpireProbably the best way to start with the Empire would be getting the new starter + a blizzard force box if you can find it. I'd also be on the lookout for any of the below, if you can find them:>Death troopers>Dark troopers>Riot control>LAAT/LE>Customisable officer and agent>Dewbacks>Din Djarin/Outer rim outlawsOh, also, just having more stormtroopers doesn't hurt either.
You know, it's nice that we're having some actual tabletop discussion in this thread.
>>97116638>I did this with some guys in a writing group, the rules being that we had to fix the sequels while changing as little as possible. Contextual changes are fine and you can add bits or change the order of events to make the story flow better, but the meat of the action has to stay in.I Actually did something very similar, but only for Last Jedi.Derailing thread with my autistic fanfiction...>First Order attacks the Resistance as they're trying to leave>Leia orders Poe not to engage but to stay close to the transports>FO jam coms resulting in Poe decides 'fuck it' and leading the fighters in an attack run>They take out a FO ship, but both the fighters and transports suffer heavy causalities and damages>Leia demotes Poe for ignoring her orders>Meanwhile...>Rey has found Luke>She offers Luke his fathers old lightsaber>Luke with a small sad smile recognises it and asks where she found it>Rey says Maz Kanta>Luke gives a small, weak laugh and says "of course">Chewie arrives and Luke greets him and says "Han... I'm sorry...">He turns back to Rey and sadly asks "You've come here because you want me to train you?">She says yes>Luke tells her he cant do that, that he can't train anymore Jedi, but refuses to elaborate
>>97124143>The Resistance fleet comes out of hyperspace in what should be a safe system, but are met by a waiting FO fleet, led by Kylo Ren>He targets the Resistance command ship's operations centre and blows it up>Leia and most of the Resistance's High Command are there>They get sucked into space>Poe and friends look on helplessly>Except for Connix>She rushes to a auxiliary console and uses the ship's tractor beams to bring Leia and as many of the other commanders back on board>She explains to Poe and co that some of the commanders, including Leia, had been given personal shields for their protection and that MIGHT protect them from vacuum >She manages to get Leia, Akbar and a couple of others before the fleet jumps back to hyperspace>Leia is alive, but badly injured and will have to spend significant time in a bacta tank>With Resistance High Command basically gutted, leadership falls to Adm. Holdo>Holdo refuses to reveal her plans to Poe, noting that the FO were waiting for them, which means there may be a mole/spy in their mists>Poe asks if she's accusing him and if that's why she doesn't trust him>She tells him that based on his reputation he's one of the few people who's loyalty to the Resistance she is completely sure of, however she can't say the same of his friends, looking at Finn>She goes on to explain that his reputation is also that he's reckless and she's aware that Leia recently demoted him for ignoring her orders and the damage that, that did>She tells him that when the time is right, he'll be brought in, but that until then she needs him to be patient and do his duties
>>97124145>Back with Luke and Rey...>Luke still won't train Rey, so she's taken to trying to train herself>Despite his refusals, he does occasionally offer her tips and advice, before leaving her to her own devices>While all of this is going on, Rey is also being contacted by Kylo through the force>He shows her visions of his past and tells her that Luke tried to kill him>Rey refuses to believe him>Rey continues to train herself as Luke watches on from the distance>Back at the Resistance fleet...>A few days have passed and Poe is still on the outside>Every time the fleet comes out of hyperspace, they're met by a waiting FO fleet>Days become weeks>Fuel is starting to run low, as are general supplies>Poe begins to become convinced that Holdo has no plan>He also criticises her for wearing Leia's clothes, but she dismisses this, telling him that she and Leia have know each other since they were young girls and have had to share and wear each others clothes on multiple occasions, noting that what she's wearing now is much more appropriate then the formal dress that is the only clothes she has>He recruits a small group, including Finn and comes up with his own plan>There's a friendly contact on Canto Bright/Cantonica>Finn is sent because they can play it off him escaping and maybe use that to their advantages with Holdo>As Finn tries to leave, Rose, who's not part of Poe's group, tries to stop him, but ends up on the ship with him>Finn explains what's going on and she becomes a reluctant part of it
>>97124148>Eventually Luke and Rey talk again, during which Luke says something that Kylo had mentioned, causing Rey to realise that what Kylo had shown her was the truth>She accuses Luke of lying, of having tried to kill Kylo>Luke says he knows she's been communicating with him and that Ben is lying to her>She demands the truth, so Luke not only tells her what happened but also shows her through the force>The Republic requested his help as a mediator in a inter-system dispute>So he had to leave his Jedi school and the students>He had already sensed the growing darkness in Ben, but he arrogantly thought he could protect him from it and keep him in the light>He thought his students would be safe, with the already trained Jedi watching over them, including his wife>Luke says that when he returned he found the school in ruin and his students and his wife dead>Flash back/vision shows Luke cradling his dead wife and crying>"Mara and I were expect our first child..." he sadly tells Rey>He continues on "They were all killed by lightsabers">Past Ben appears, flanked by his friends (the Knights of Ren) and tells past Luke that he's finishing his grandfathers grand works>Past Luke stands up and wordlessly ignites his lightsaber
>>97124150>In a single move, he strikes at Ben, but instead cuts down 2 of the KoR as Ben stubbles backwards>Ben ignites his own saber and tries to fight Luke...>But Luke outclasses him and easily overpowers him, due to both his skill and his anger>Ben ends up on the ground, with Luke standing above him, just as he had shown Rey>Present Luke tells Rey that at that moment, he realised that the dark side wasn't just influencing Ben, it was also influencing him>It was feeding his overconfidence in his ability to keep Ben in the light...>...and it was him that Snoke and the dark side really wanted, not Ben>Past Luke disengages his lightsaber, turns and stagers off>Ben gets up and tries to attack him, but the KoR drag him off>The vision ends>Luke tells Rey that this is why he can't train her, or any other Jedi>He can't train them until he's removed the dark side from himself>Rey is upset by this, but understands
>>97124154>Holdo visits Leia, who is in an induced coma in a bacta tank>She talks to Leia, revealing her struggles with leading the fleet through this crisis and her concerns about whether or not she's doing the right thing by locking out Poe>Finn and Rose reach Canto Bright/Cantonica>Due to neither being an actual pilot, they end up crash landing and having to avoid the authorities>They head to a Casino to met the contact, but before they can get to him, they're arrested>It's revealed to the audience that the contact they were suppose to met is Lando>They're taken to prison where they met DJ>They talk about what's happening and DJ claims to know how the FO are tracking the Resistance>He'll help them if they help him escape Canto Bright/Cantonica>They help him escape prison and steal a ship>He explains that the same company that the Resistance buys it's hyperdrives from, also developed a device that can remotely connect to their hyperdrives through sub-space>From this connection they can determine things such as destination and time to arrival>They sold the device to the FO>Rose is disgusted that someone would do such a thing, but DJ dismisses her by saying "Ya gotta do what ya gotta do to survive">Finn makes contact with Poe>Things are dire at the moment, the fleet is low on fuel and supplies, the next attack could be the last>Poe's managed to learn which system they're heading to next>Finn believes that FO will have realised the Resistance is on it's last legs and be massing everything for the attack>Poe say's they'll be there in 3-4 days>Finn comes up with a plan to infiltrate the FO fleet and disable the device
>>97124156>Rey either has a vision, or communicates with Kylo again and he reveals that the Resistance will soon be destroyed and accidently reveals the location this will happen>Rey decides she can't sit by and let this happen>She tries to convince Luke to come with her>He refuses>She and Chewie leave in the Falcon, but R2 stays with Luke>Luke watches them leave, unsure if he's making the right decision>A familiar voice says from off screen "Son...">Luke turns and sees Anakin as a force ghost>They talk and Anakin encourages Luke to go and help his friends, but Luke says he has rid himself of the dark side first>Anakin tells his son that "The Force is strong in our family... but so is the dark side. It is something that will always hang over you. You can never truly rid yourself of it. It will always call to you and tempt you. All you can do is overcome it when it does. Luke... I fell to the dark side because I feared losing your mother and you... But you, you went through what I feared the most... and when the dark side reached out to you, you overcame it, as you have always done. Where I failed, you succeeded. Luke, you are far stronger then I ever was. I am proud of you son. And so is your mother">In the distance, behind Anakin, Luke see's a vision of Padme.>And then they're gone>Luke takes a few moments to collect himself, then walks to the edge of the cliff>Looking down into the water he can see his X-wing below the waves>He raises his hand>R2 comes up behind him and beeps>Luke says "No, R2. We're not going to try and help our friends... We ARE going to help them!">He lifts the X-wing out of the water with ease
>>97124158>Finn and Rose make it to the FO fleet, which has massed ready for the Resistance>They manage to make it on board the command ship and begin looking for the device>Poe stages a mutiny with his followers, but is stopped by Leia>Leia is still injured but out of the coma and bacta tank>Poe tells her that he sent Finn off an they've discovered that the FO has a device that is tracking them through through hyperspace>Holdo reveals that her plan is almost ready to put into action>Poe accuses her of lying and says she doesn't have a plan>Leia says Holdo does, that she's already briefed Leia on it and they know about the device>They've discovered the signals being sent and have worked out how they can drop out of hyperspace, but still send the signal saying they're in hyperspace>However, they only have a short window of an hour or two to do this>Their current destination means they've be traveling through the Crait system, where there is an old Rebellion base>Resistance personal who aren't with the fleet have been contacted and are on Crait getting ready>The plan is that the fleet will begin sending the fake hyperspace signal and then drop out near the only planet in the system>The Resistance will then abandon the fleet and travel by shuttle/small craft to the planet>The Fleet will then move back into hyperspace, under auto pilot and arrive at their destination, where it will be destroyed by the First Order>The Resistance will then use the ships that have brought to the planet by the other Resistance personal to escape
>>97124159>The Falcon arrives at the FO fleet and Rey uses an escape pod to leave the Falcon and tells Chewie to leave her and find the Resistance and help them>Rey is retrieved by the FO and brought to Kylo, who will take her to Snoke>The Resistance arrives at Crait and begins to abandon the fleet>Chewie manages to make contact with them on a secure sub-space frequency>Finn and Rose find the device and begin shutting it down>However Phasma arrives with DJ, who's sold them out, saying "Ya gotta do what ya gotta do to survive">Phasma has DJ restart the device>The restart causes them to detect the fake signal and work out that the fleet has stopped at Crait>Phasma relays this to FO command and the immediately begin moving the fleet to Crait>Finn and Rose are lead away to be executed in front of the Stormtroopers to show them what happens to deserters>Rey is taken to Snoke>Same events play out, except the fight is better choreographed and there's no disappearing knife
>>97124161>The FO Fleet arrives at Crait, just as the last transport is about to leave the Resistance fleet>Holdo, Leia, Poe and co are the last to board the transport>Holdo elect to stay behind and Akbar joins her saying "If you're planning what I think you're planning, you'll need some help">Holdo and Akbar pilot the Resistance command ship, with the rest of the fleet following on auto pilot, on a sub-light collision cause with the FO command ship>Before they hit, Holdo tells Akbar it's been an honour, to which he replies the same and then says "For the Resistance" as they hit>The FO command ship is badly damaged, along with several other FO ships>The Resistance transports make it to Crait and the base shields are raise>The collision allows Rey the chance to escape>It also interrupts Finn and Roses execution>Finn fights Phasma and manages to kills her>He and Rose escape>They run in to Rey>They all make it off the ship and beat the FO ground forces to the planet
>>97124163>The shields will stop orbital bombardment, but not ground forces entering>The Resistance receive word that Adm. Antilles has rallied what remains of the Republic Fleet and they are on their way, but it will be a few days>The FO lands it's forces>Poe comes up with a plan to use speeders to thin them out to buy them time>Poe pilots one, while Rey acts as his gunner, while Finn pilots another with Rose as his gunner>Before they leave, Rey and Leia talk>Leia can't feel any good in Ben and Rey is unsure herself>The speeders manage to take out a few of the FO walkers but quickly begin to be overwhelmed>Finn and Rose's speeder is shot down and FO walkers begin to approach them>Before it can fire on them, it's destroyed by an X-wing>Poe and Rey pick them up and all surviving speeder return to base>The X-wing lands and it's revealed to be Luke>Luke and Leia embrace and Luke offers his condolences for Han and apologise for not coming sooner>He then tells her that he has to face Ben>She tries to stop him>He tells her that "It's alright, the Force is with Me.">Luke walks out in front of the FO's amassed forces>He points at Kylo's command shuttle and then signals him to come down>Kylo instead orders the FO to fire on Luke
>>97124167>When the dust clears, Luke is still standing there>His arm is outstretched and there are 4 or 5 large blaster bolts being suspended in the air (the same why Kylo did in the opening of TFA)>Luke simply turns his hand and the blaster bolts burst into sparks that float away on the wind>He once again signals to Kylo to come down>Kylo has the shuttle lands and comes out>He immediately ignites his lightsaber and charges at Luke>Luke effortless dodges all of his strikes...>... until Kylo manages to get one that Luke can't dodge>In a flash, Luke draws and ignites his own (green) lightsaber, blocking the attack>Kylo begins fighting even harder>Luke blocks and deflects every attack, but never pushes or makes his own strikes>He only defends>Both sides are watching this happen>As she watches, Leia hears Luke's voice through the force>"Leia, you have to go now">She says "Not without you" out loud, drawing some odd looks from the people around her>Luke replies, once again saying "It's alright Leia... The Force is with Me.">Leia tearfully announces they have to leave, that it's what Luke wants
>>97124170>The saber fight continues>Kylo is still attacking>Luke is still defending>But then Kylo stops as he sees the Resistance ships making their escape>They get away before he can order the FO to fire at them>Luke smiles and disengages his lightsaber>Seeing this, Kylo charges at him>He stabs him through the chest with his saber>Luke grunts as he's stabbed>But instead of fading away, or falling over dead, he grabs Kylo and brings him into a tight hug>Kylo tries to struggle and push him off>Luke brings his mouth to Kylo's ear and whispers>"It's alright Ben... I forgive you.">Ben pushes Luke off of him>Luke smiles and nods at Ben>He begins to fall forward, but as he does he fades away, becoming one with the force>Ben is stunned and drops to his knees>With tears rolling down his face, he picks up Luke's lightsaber and looks unsure about things>The Resistance transports manage to connect with the remnant of the Republic fleet>Leia tells Rey that she can feel the good in Ben again>Snoke's throne room>Hux storms out, unhappy with what's happened>FO crew drag the Snoke and Praetorian Guard's corpse away>The Knights of Ren take up positions around the room>Pan in on Kylo sitting on the throne>He looks mad, but as the camera get's closer to him his face changes>He looks sad, unsure and a little sacred as a single tear rolls down his cheek>Roll Credits
Anon, you wrote a better story than TLJ. I hope you know that.And while you will probably get a bunch of dumbass contrarian hate for the Luke and Anakin scene, or the Holdo scene, or Leia in space gettign tractored. . . those were way, WAY better than what we had to endure in cinemas with TLJ.
>>971166582nd Movie:>Opening crawl states that 2 years after the end of first film, the New Republic has declined to interfere with a purely internal Imperial matter. As such, Leia has called in some friends from the old Rebellion days to assist in organizing the Regent loyalists into a Resistance force against the Knights of Ren.>The Supremacy is still in their hands, but due to it's size and their inability to get enough crew together to properly maintain her, she is slowly dying a Death of A Thousand Cuts. They also can't risk crossing the boarder due to the heavy military buildup along it. They could probably cross, but there's no guarantee that they wouldn't be boarded and the Knights would get the intel in the Supremacies databanks. The map to a planet beyond the outer rim.>Film opens with Leia, Poe, Akbar, Finn and General Veers (The head of the Imperial Resistance) in a heated debate about how to proceed. Leia wants to scuttle the Supremacy in a star to deprive the Knights of the intel fully. Veers disagree's and wants to keep it to hopefully use its might to take the fight to the Knights.>Finn sides with Veers due to his loyalty to Regent. But they table the matter as the ship is attacked by a swarm of Probe Droids.>Epic fight where the Resistance members are overwhelmed and a lot are killed due to being unable to mass in sufficient numbers. Paige Tico, one of the New Republic volunteers, is among those killed before the problem is solved.>Several Resurrgeant Class Star Destroyers and one of their Dreadnoughts drops out ontop of them. Without enough people to man the guns, they are forced to run.>They are followed through Hyperspace and quickly find out that the Droids weren't here to attack them, but to plant a number of tracking devices. They just don't have the manpower to deal with the Trackers and evade the enemy, due to the sheer size of the ship.
>>97124471>Poe takes his X-Wing and takes out the Shields of the Dreadnought, allowing the Supremacy to blast it to pieces with it's superheavy turbo lasers. But the Knights keep up the chase.>In the meantime, Rey, C3P0, R2-D2 and Chewie are searching for Luke.>They go to Acht-To. After talking to a trader who claims that someone matching Luke's rough description travels to buy supplies once a month.>When they arrive, Rey goes up alone to talk with him.>She meets an old man with a robotic hand. Claims he's never met a Luke Skywalker that he's Owen Lars and that she's wasted her trip. She goes back down to the Falcon and tells the others that they need to move on. After mentioning Owen Lars' name, Chewie storms up the mountain, breaks down his door and slaps him for being an ass.>Luke tries to get them to leave, threatening to kill them if they don't, Chewie doesn't take this well and flies into a rage at Luke, telling him about Han being dead.>This snaps Luke out of his stupor and collapses into Chewies arms in grief.>After Luke wakes up, he tells them why he came here. He can't train her because he fell to The Dark Side.>After he founded his academy, everything went great for a long time. Then, 10 years ago, the dark thoughts began creeping in. He was constantly haunted by visions of his students turning to The Dark Side, that he would be the one to finish what his father started.>One night, he awoke to find himself surrounded by his students who had all fallen to The Dark Side, Red Lightsabers drawn, ready to kill him. He fought back. When all was settled, all of his students, except Ben were dead.>His vision from Dagobah was true, he had become Vader.>C3P0 begs for Luke to see reason, that they need his help, regardless of what he did.>Luke doesn't appreciate this, but Artoo plays the "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope" which Luke replies is a low blow.
>>97124473>Luke begins training Rey, albeit not well, due to him fearing he'll start having the visions again.>Rey goes into the cave to find whatever she brought with her.>It's after her mind is opened that she begins seeing Kylo Ren and talking with him.>Kylo keeps telling her that Luke will try to kill her too.>Luke finds out about this and begs Kylo's forgiveness through Rey for causing him to fall to the Dark Side. Kylo tells him to fuck off.>After some more training, Artoo comes to tell them that the Resistance is in trouble. The Supremacy is in bad shape and being hounded by the Knights constantly.>Rey listens in on Kylo and learns that he's preparing to lead a small strike team to sneak aboard the Supremacy to steal the Second Order.>Rey tells Luke that she's going to help.>Luke see's in her what he saw in himself when he went to Bespin.>He tells her what Obi-Wan and Yoda did last time... But that he still believes he did the right thing that day. He's going with her.>They board the Falcon and blast off to catch up with Supremacy.>Back with Supremacy, the Knights launch an all-out fighter assault, knowing that they don't have enough crew to man the AA guns.>Leia finally convinces Veers that the ship is lost. He agree's and they immediately set course for the nearest star. They attempt to use the Hyperdrive, but it's knocked out during the assault.>Knowing that the ship being boarded is an inevitability, Finn suggests turning the fight around on the Imperials. They shut down all power to the ship in every single section, except near the Power Core and coast into the star's Gravity Well.>One thing that the Supremacy has, is a stockpile of GCW era Imperial equipment. Outside of the Power Core is a massive holding area.
>>97124477>The plan: If the Knights want the information, they'll have to get to a working computer on The Supremacy. The only working ones will be in The Power Core. Turn this space battle into a land battle. The Power Core is full of hyperspace capable escape pods, meaning that, after they hold off the Knights for long enough, they can escape.>The plan goes into effect.>Kylo and his Knights of Ren board the ship. But Kylo expects a plan like this.>When the Knights board the ship, they find the Resistance armed with AT-AT's, AT-ST's and other OT vehicles.>However, the Knights also brought their own AT-M6's and upgraded AT-ST's.>Epic battle of the Walkers. with Poe and Finn operating an AT-ST together, leading the charge. The main gunline includes Veers and Akbar in an AT-AT.>As this is happening, Falcon arrives. It's thin profile meaning that it enters with a vector-strike on the Knights formation, before flying behind the allied lines.>There's a big reunion with Luke, Leia, Chewie and Artoo.>But the battle is a losing one.>Kylo Ren manages to break through the lines and makes it to the Power Core. Avoiding Luke and Leia, he manages to get the information from the computer.>There's a showdown between Luke and Kylo, where they argue about Luke falling to the Dark Side.>Luke tells him that now that he's here, with everything he's done, he realizes that there's something... Something manipulating him. Manipulating both of them.>Kylo counters that Luke killed all of his friends, so he doesn't particularly care.>Luke calls him out for killing Han.>Kylo counters that he loved his father, but couldn't stand his mother for STILL siding with Luke after Luke tried to kill him.>Leia intervenes telling him that she could sense that something was manipulating this.
>>97124483>Kylo is beyond caring. He has what he needs and attempts to leave. He's confronted by Rey.>It's a short battle. Rey is no match for Kylo and is defeated. Kylo escapes.>With their objectives failed, the Resistance begins evacuating. The named characters aboard the Falcon, the rest in escape pods.>Veers stays behind. He repowers the ship, raising the shields and trapping the massive invasion force in the ship. Akbar and Rose Tico stay with him to hold the power core to prevent the Knights forces from turning the power off and escaping.>The Supremacy plunges into the star while 2 old nemeses fight side by side to take as many as they can with them and help keep the spark of Rebellion alight.>The resistance meets up on a new planet to plan their next move and to lick their wounds.>In the meantime, Kylo and his Knights of Ren follow the star map.>They find Starkiller Base.>As the Resistance gets ready to move, they intercept a galaxy-wide broadcast.>Supreme Leader Snoke issues his declaration of war against The New Republic.>Leia seems happy at first, with the might of the New Republic navy on their side, they are about to get all the reinforcements they could ever dream of.>Snoke also declares that he plans to make the first move.>The gang look up into the sky to see several hundred bright lances of red light going across the stars.>Hosnian Prime, the current capital of the Rebellion is destroyed, along with a number of worlds where we see the New Republics many fleets are gathered.>The New Republic is crippled by this opening salvo.>The film ends on total uncertainty, but the resolve that not all hope is lost.This one i'm not as happy with, but Last Jedi is a REALLY terrible movie and having to keep as much of it intact as possible made it hard to tell a cohesive story. Although we all agreed that Canto Bight HAD to go, because it literally served no narrative purpose whatsoever.
>>97114981Starting Rebel army for Legion is pretty straigthforward:>Starter setIt's just the best value you can get all around and gets you all the stuff you'll need like dice, range rulers, movement tools or battle cards.I'd try playing a starter game with just that.Some units are good regardless of what you want to use>Customizable Rebel Commander/Agent>Sleeper cell>AT-RT>AA-5 bus >Bad BatchThey are all fairly easy to find and all perform well without support.The Rebel Officer and Agent are both very cheap and can be built however you like. Charging in melee with Wookies, shooting his pistol and thermal detonator at short range, shooting with a big repeater along with rebel troopers or just giving orders safely from some hiding place.Sleeper Cells are an aggressive unit, and look pretty cool to boot.AT-RTs are flexible, they can be built as anti-infantry, anti-vehicle or with a jack-of-all-trade weapon.The bus can be built as a support vehicle or battle chariot.Then it depends on what aspect of the Rebellion you like mostIf you love the OT>Heroes of the Rebellion >Fleet TroopersFirst is a no-brainer as it has everyone you'll want. Fleet troopers are hard to find but pretty fun. Then you would take more of what you like most.If you love Andor/Rogue One>Cassian Andor + K2-SO>Jyn ErsoCassian, Jyn and K2-SO play off each other pretty well and all have good synergy with Sleeper Cells or the AA-5 bus.A box with these 3 will release in January iirc, but it's just a repack of the old boxes.If you love the Mandalorian>Outer Rim Outlaws (Din Djarin + Boba Fett)>IG Assassin Droids for IG-11>Mandalorian ResistanceDin is a fucking monster in melee, IG-11 is better at range while Boba is in between. Mandalorians are fast (except for Boba) but really reliant on defense rolls to tank.There is a pretty big secondhand market, so try to get some of that stuff off ebay.Also worth mentioning>Landspeeder: really good>Sabine>Ahsoka
>>97115007>the galaxy falls into many regional powers after the total destruction of the Empire and New Republic. Could be a cool warring states period. Star Wars space desperately needs balkanization. In Star Trek you've got the Federation and multiple superpowers neighboring it, but as far Star Wars go, Chiss, Grysk and other alien factions from beyond the Outer Rim just don't do the trick.Three Kingdoms in Star Wars would be interesting at least
>>97124606All sleeper cells, all freedom balls, all in an AA-5 schoolbusMaximum questionable ethics.It's not actualy good, but it does get laughs.
>>97124842That's what the inbetween eras are before>In between PT and OT you have the Empire fighting a galactic war against all the shattered Separatist remnants and uppity systems>In between OT and ST you have the Empire fragmenting and collapsing into innumerable warlord states
>>97125464>>In between OT and ST you have the Empire fragmenting and collapsing into innumerable warlord statesExcept that didn't happen because the ST writers were all drooling retards.It should have happened, and it would have given us a better ST. And there are a bunch of nevels and comics books tehy could have used as blueprints, but they decided to just ignore those because. . .well, they're not interested in the universe, I guess? I don't really understand why you buy an IP like this for billions of dollars and then smash it to pieces instead of getting filthy rich.
>>97123703Huh, now I'll feel like less of an ubernerd since I don't need to dig out the fanedits when I want to watch the theatrical editions.>But I don't want to give these fucks any moneyRest assured, they're still just going to sit on the brand. Their suits are so risk averse right now after flubbing the past decade they're barely putting anything new out. This is the sort of lazy low-effort release they can use to show they still "care" and to make some money off their $4.05 billion purchase.I'm curious how well this is going to do in the box office. I figure it'll gross pretty high but I really wonder if we'll be able to see how much SW-fatigue the general populace has just from the numbers. Still going to watch it in a TNG Uniform.
>>97104565Remember that series of novels where they found like massive chunks of the planet floating in space, with some buildings still intact and they turned it into a rebel base and made Leia live in the floating graveyard of her entire adopted world and family? That was a little fucked up.
>>97118363>and only shares one character with the rest of the HR stories.And it's a character so unlike in appearance and characterisation, that it even managed to make the few fans of HR mad about Acolyte as well.
>>97126019>it even managed to make the few fans of HR mad about Acolyte as wellIt's like pottery.The longer you look, the more it looks like actual active sabotage.
>>97125818>with some buildings still intact and they turned it into a rebel base >and made Leia live in the floating graveyard of her entire adopted world and familyHoly EU bullshit.
>>97125818>Remember that series of novels where they found like massive chunks of the planet floating in space, with some buildings still intact and they turned it into a rebel base and made Leia live in the floating graveyard of her entire adopted world and family? That was a little fucked up.I don't. What in the fuck?
>>97125711No that happened during the year after the Emperor's death, the New Republic mopped them up faster in canon than in legends, banishing the remaining warlords to the rim. It's a cool alternate depiction of the era to explore
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>>97123918I can't get over the fucking clown smile helmet, sorry.And they suck for Battlefront because there's so little detail on the back.
What if CIS deployed IG Lancer Droids during the battle of Coruscant?
>>97126424No it didn't. In canon all Imperial forces gathered at Jakku because they were all Retards 4 Dah Emprah and obeyed all his dumb commands even after he was dead and the Republic wiped them out. The only survivors were the First Order, who were intended to survive. But only as a distraction so that the FINAL Order could bring Palpy back.That's the story the Sequels and all directly associated media told. They may be trying to retcon their own dumb plot with Mandoverse shows to reintroduce a few Warlords, but they still want to keep the main Sequel plot intact so they have to be Super Sekrit Warlords with basically no power or influence who only exist to fund attemps to find and bring back Thrawn who in this continuity had to be hidden in another fucking galaxy so he would't fuck up the stupid "the Republic 1000% believes they won and the Empire ceased to exist at Jakku" requirement.This shit is not salvagable bruv.
>>97127540No anon, in canon the Empire splintered into warlords just like EU, only different is the largest coalition that formed was defeated at Jakku. It would be like if the New Republic gimped the Imperial Remnant early and caused it to never truly form.First Order being a group of warlords that fled to the unknown regions is ok, Final Order is totally retarded though
>>97126258Well of course. That's the best kind.
>>97126382It might be the same set of books we got Trioculus and Dark Greetings from. It was definitely in the same vein.
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>>97115007>Post-SequelsThe Hutt Empire rises again.
>>97127653This is only because they started backpedaling after discovering that there's no insulting accusation they could hurl at critics that would stop normals from noticing that the the sequel era is shit.They'll never, ever backpedal ENOUGH though.
>>97125051I'm not familiar with Legion jargon, what's a "freedom ball"?
Twi'lek spam for these trying times...Will we ever get RPG supplements again?
>>97104226because despite itself and the people that own it star wars is still fucking good
>>97104751man. i'm sorry you might have to do that again, but i suppose i might also experience that
>>97105393no retard he force astral projected to another planet and apparently that was enough to kill him so you're fucked anyway
Mandalorian and Grogu will save Star Wars, and /swg/ by extension
>>97112074there are so many offworld twi'lek because of their homeworld governments selling them as slaves that they could probably all unite, train militarily and return home and destroy them easily like earth and zion but with zion being the good guys this time
>>97129677when embracer group spun of asmodee and dark horse into seperate companies again just to offload debt from their retarded spending spree, that probably was the deathknell of the ffg era games. edge studious somehow manages to hemorrhage 2-3 books a year, but i would be very surprised to see anything more significant than reprints
>>97129827It's nothing super dramatic. I think the Rogue One ending where Cassian and what's her name hug conveys the same sort of emotions you'd feel in that scenario. It would just come too fast to really process it, I don't think you'd even start the stages of grief.I'm the second anon here, the "Oh, fuck off" guy who chose to call family in case it was real. Screencapped this way back when because the animu girl is from a mostly unknown manga and I definitely didn't expect to see her posted from a Hawaii anon on /k/ of all places.For all the saber rattling things are probably fine, China doesn't have enough missiles to reasonably threaten or even damage the US and would get completely glasses in retaliation, and most of the Russian stockpile probably doesn't work if the post-Cold War silo inspections and the system dysfunction they've displayed in Ukraine is any indication. I wouldn't worry about nuclear war if I were you, I'd be concerned about making sure the world of tomorrow is one you actually want to live in.
>>97129355It's not Legion jargon, but he probably means the one ball that makes all men equal: a thermal detonator.
>>97104751For a minute there I thought your were going to say you were this Anon
>>97129944>picThere actually is a doujin on this sort of premise. Ask me how I know... the siblings in that felt very differently afterward though. Very differently indeed. Everyone gets a happy ending in hentai.
