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Deceit Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97098806

>TQ
Can MtG be fixed and/or saved from its current state?
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>Killrape Maro into retirement.
>Hire new guy that has head where it belongs.
>Reduce amount of produced garbage, focus on 3 main sets + 2 supplemental + minor shit a year at best.
>Abandon Secret Layers
>Abandon UB
>Abandon everything that is there only to sell product and is detrimental to health of the game
>Soft reboot the game and drain all the garbage amassed for years into depths of eternal formats.
>Focus on standard.
>Every Commander or other meme format is abandoned and left for players to manage.
>Abandon FIRE, even if it means printing boring 2/2 fliers for 3 mana.
>Killrape every activist pretending to be a writer, artist, developer etc. It's okay to have political opinions but if you plan to use product you're working on as a way to announce your allegiance and support to whatever political side you belong, die.
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>>97105174
Anglerfish-based elemental?
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>TQ
No. Here is what will happen: UB will eventually go into an underperforming streak, investors will panic, the budget for Magic will be cut and it will spiral down from there in a vicious cycle.
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>>97105422
Issue with UB is that WoTC believed that it will be some magical thing that will attract millions of players, but in reality nothing will keep players interested with MTG is the game is fucking garbage and cost of licensing is piling high.
What we will get from it is either:
>WoTC will keep pumping out UB shit but instead of popular franchises, they gonna focus on Hasbro's own stuff and random shit with 3 fans still alive.
>Quick 180 degree flip into UW focus, with UBs being relegated to random meme sets and Secret Lairs.

But obviously both are pointless because we know that WoTC is reacting to shit at pace of a dead snail so it will take years before anything will change and till that time MTG may just be swiftly killed off by Hasbro.
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>>97105174
I'm happy more people are willing to create threads but you gotta remember to link the new one in the older one like this
>>97105575
Otherwise it's gonna take a while for people to move threads
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>>97105174
>Can MtG be fixed and/or saved from its current state?
lmao
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Nu white protection effect
W
Instant
Until the end of the turn, creatures you control gain "If this creature would die/be exiled/be returned to hand or library, instead it phases out. It phases in at the beginning of your next upkeep"
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>>97105452
>but in reality nothing will keep players interested with MTG is the game is fucking garbage and cost of licensing is piling high
This hasn't been true since coomander became a thing since they will just buy literally anything and they don't care if the game is unplayable since it's supposed to be "self regulated"
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Right before rotation happens before the first set of 2027 comes out, Standard is gonna consist of:
>Wilds of Eldraine
>Lost Caverns of Ixalan
>Foundations
>Murders at Karlov Mannor
>Outlaws at Thunder Junction
>The Big Score
>Bloomburrow
>Duskmourne
>Aetherdrift
>Tarkir Dragon storm
>Final Fantasy
>Edge of Eternities
>Spider-Man
>Avatar
>Lorwyn Eclipsed
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
>Secrets or Strixhaven
>Marvel Superheroes
>The Hobbit
>Reality Fractured
>Star Trek
That's 21 sets.
For reference, Pioneer was created with the card pool of 29 sets, starting from RTR (late 2012) to ELD (late 2019).
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>>97105174
You have ONE job anons.
Save Magic! And avoid the game crashing as hard as it will do next year.
How you do it?
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>>97105630
why they had to kill this format? standard is a shit fest of UB garbage and modern besides being expensive as fuck is an amalgamation of the most degenerate shit on magic… why pioneer had to die just because this fucking kikes couldn’t squeeze as much money of it as from the other two formats?
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>>97105630
based honestly
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To boost white I would create the God boon cycle. We would start with a wrath protect for permanents. Then protection from diffrent kinds of interaction. Starting with player targeting spells.
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>>97105650
>why pioneer had to die just because this fucking kikes couldn’t squeeze as much money of it as from the other two formats?
I mean, you're kinda answering the question here. If Pioneer has any future it will be because they decide to milk it with Horizons sets like they did with Modern.
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>coom and turd: used not to get straight to format cards
RAPED
>modern: used not to get straight to format cards
RAPED
>pioneer: doesn't get straight to format cards
___________
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>>97105671
Maybe reworking protect to work on the stack would be nice too
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>>97105630
At this point I think that the larger Standard is meant to keep UB sets in circulation longer so the guy who bought cards because he liked Avatar or Final Fantasy can still be brought back for events without his cards being useless.
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>>97105188
>>Abandon FIRE, even if it means printing boring 2/2 fliers for 3 mana.
Commons should be just that and are not boring at all. Current year commons are out of fucking control. The FF setvhad a 2/2 flier for 3... with two keywords, and an activated ability.

Going back and drafting older sets, 99% of creatures were either vanilla, french vanilla with a keyword or two, and if they were a rare, still usually had combat oriented activated abilities. All creatures becoming sorceries with a body or activated ability valueachines with a body was such a big mistake. Such creatures should feel special and their ability should be somewhat flavorful. It's to the point where nothing makes sense design wise and they just figured fhey had to slap SOMETHING onto the body of every god damn common.

Blood toll harpy, for example, is a good common from a draft standpoint. It's a 2/1 with flying for 3 that drains each player for 1 life when it enters. It's ability makes sense with the flavor text, it's not overpowered, and once it hits the board it's a creature first and foremost. It attacks, blocks, and leaves the rube goldberg machine components to non-creature spells or rares. Is it powerful? Fuck no. But it does it's work in limited in a way that commons do best. It gets in, and does it's job for 2 damage every turn. It doesn't need to be anything else and it knows it.

Theros was honestly so fucking kino for having a good balance of creatures with abilities and interesting keywords without anything really being over designed. Most creatures were combat oriented. Even most rares had abilities that related to their combat stats.
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>>97105635
Univers Within Masters. Make all the actually plaayable UB cards into real cards that can be reprinted whenever they're needed
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>>97105830
Theros had a big aura focus, so creautes were
1)designed to stick around and not just etb
2)made with assumption that they'll be way fucking crazier thanks to auras, so the base had to be toned down
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>>97105635
First of all remove F.I.R.E. and obliterate it for all time.
Second no more black hoplites, vikings, knights etc.
Red haired girls with perky tits and green eyes, very kind, honest and compassionate.
Blond girls as well.
Take back Seb McKinnon with a public apology and triple his salary, do the same with Terese Nielsen.
Next set's main artists are Rebecca guay, John Avon, Donato Giancola, Chippy, Wayne Reynolds, Nils Hamm, Terese Nielsen, Seb McKinnon, Omar Rayyan, Daarken,Greg Staples, Matt cavotta, Aleksi Briclot just to name a few.
No representation or any kind, ugly people are fine but it shouldn't be with the intent of giving representation to them, like, in the past we had plenty of ugly people like let's say a drunk fuck in a tavern that grabs the knife or the cleaver of the innkeeper and attacks you but none of us thought "oh, what an ugly person right there, I'm going to oppress his ass", back then people were genuine and not brainwashed by the frankfurt school dialectics. Ugly people were allowed to be ugly and they weren't used as a propaganda tool. Everyone minded their own business and was happy.
F.I.R.E. every fat blue haired feminist with grandma glasses and chalk makeup on her face, as well as every jew, every troon and every diversity hire.
Bring back nerdy white guys with a passion for math, science and computers like Garfield.
Lower the price of the products, no more predatory products or pricing, print tournament ready decks at an affordable price like yugioh does. 30-50 bucks and you have a deck that can 80% of the times place first at your FNM.
Stop policing stores to ban every guy who says mean words, bring back the lgs era where nerds would gather and laugh while saying nigger and faggot.
Remove UB forever.
Keep in mind that the destruction and enshittification of magic is 100% intentional, they want to push a political statement first and then squeeze just enough money out of paypigs to keep the shareholders quiet and stay afloat.
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>>97105877
And revert back to the 8th edition border or make a new one that doesn't have that retarded black bar at the bottom.
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I don't think MTG can be saved. The thing is we all know what has to be done and have largely the same ideas but this game has been treated so shit, for so long, and the biggest faggots shitting it up are so entrenched in it, and it's in the death grip of one of the worst parasitic corporations that is owned by an even bigger jew corporation and you're never accomplishing anything in that structure. The IP would have to collapse, be thrown out, and then taken over by a brilliant galaxy brain giga Hitler with total authority to undo 10 years of retardation and build everything back up.
Could it happen? Yes, but it's not going to happen.
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can anyone tell me why is that being into card games has such a high chance of making you attract trannies?
I literally have two lusting over me and this is a bit too much.
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>>97105830
Theros might have been pre-FIRE, but it wasn't pre-NWO. This being said, Theros, Khans/Fate, and Dominaria were probably the last really good Draft Sets for a standard released set. It's honestly amazing how bad things have gotten.
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>>97105908
You are gay
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>>97105910
THEY'RE THE ONES LIKING ME
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>>97105923
They have gaydar to detect other fags. You are gay and desire man-on-man sex with effeminate boys in wigs.
What deck do you play? I bet it's gay.
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This is how you make a non-woke black character.
He's a black person, his intent is not to lecture and shame you about how you're a privileged incel loser with a small dick that needs to repent for playing nintendo when you were in elementary school.

Jews don't care about uplifting black people, they want to use them as suicide bombs against you.
They have created the problems black people are facing today to force you to accept their solution.
First they slash your tires then the next day they come and try to sell you new ones.
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This is teferi, and he's a black man.
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>>97105936
modern: affinity
pauper: jund / black sack
draft: had UB last time
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This is idris elba, and his purpose is to be passive aggressively put in front of you hoping you'll take the bait so they can call you an insecure incel racist no matter what comes out of your mouth.
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>>97105951
>le heroic black man
>still has a retarded nigga look and red eyes
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>>97105955
Time spiral teferi looks way more masculine and confident than anything they printed in the past 11 years.
He can clearly see a catastrophe is looming on the horizon and he's looking right at it without backing one step.

Nu-teferi looks like he just wants to tell you about his BBC. (It's intentional)
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>>97105937
It's actually extremely easy to make a cool black character. I don't know anyone who didn't enjoy the movie Blade. It was just cool and entertaining, and Blade being black was pretty much incidental, it didn't detract from the story.
The blacks in Magic now are insanely uncool and retarded-looking, and in many cases they displace existing characters and make no fucking sense from a story point of view. This is how all the minority representation is now.
For instance, in Innistrad they introduced us to Thalia, a beautiful and virtuous, heroic character who is naive and out of her depth. She only has the ability to inspire people and her kindness is used against her. She is abandoned by the institution that gave her her authority but becomes a hero among the people.
They had a character that is organically growing and being built up as a folk hero ready to become humanity's hero. But then she just gets sidelined out of nowhere and there's this new inspirational Cathar named Adeline that comes out of nowhere and she's the actual hero everyone loves and whenever people talk about her they're sucking her off. She also looks retarded. How is this not a massive fucking insult?
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This chandra artwork is not objectifying women, it's celebrating the beauty of the female body.
Without any intent to instill jealousy in women who look different, who's calling you ugly is the same people who decided to uglify chandra to """protect you""".
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>>97105950
Yeah, Affinity is really gay
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>>97105951
>MOOOOM THE LE NEGROID IS BAITING ME BY EXISTIIIING
what the fuck does this even mean? Does the very sight of a fictional black person cause your face to contort in rage? You people don't realize how crazy you sound
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>Kaya having her girl boss moment by killing a literal White God of Theros
>Saheeli having her girl boss moment by humiliating Urza with her iphone made millenium after his time
I'm actually waiting for that black Hermione from not Hogwart to humiliate Jace somehow because it seems to be on the schedule now.
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Why do Time Spiral Remastered cards have a date of 2020 if the set was released in 2021? Was the set delayed for some reason?
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>>97105983
They are propagandists trying to cast a psychic ritual to control your inner reality.
Pic related is Chandra, and it perfectly exhibits their goals and worldview. (You) are supposed to see this and experience seeing a woman.
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flat is justice
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>>97106104
She even has a bulge there ... it's over
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>>97106092
Saheeli's sylex was explicitly less powerful and they needed to fucking time travel to copy Urza and figure it out.
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>>97106068
Pimozide.
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>>97106092
Jace would deserve it tho. His only redeeming quality is that he cream pies gorgon pussy
>>97106104
That is clearly a woman, she's just wearing a top that weirdly obscures her boobs.
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>>97106254
They photoshopped her tits to give her a mastectomy but forgot to photoshop the shadow on the floor.
>>97106068
>MOOOOM LE BIGOTS ARE OPPRESSING ME FOR REFUSING TO PLAY PRETEND WITH ME
Snap your neckbone with a rope, troon.
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>>97106254
It's Ben Stiller in fucking drag, open your eyes!
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>>97106269
Actual schizoid response. What about the black man on the card is bait and how would anyone normal person think they're baiting a stranger by showing it to them?
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>>97106323
You are a mentally ill man, you're not a woman.
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>>97106323
They redesigned the character to look less east african, and more like an urban nigger.
You pretending not to understand is not fooling anyone.
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>>97106355
Not only that, they changed his character and personality entirely in order to be a character that wouldn't be liked as much with the intent to play the victim when and if people asked questions about it.
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>>97106333
>everyone who doesn't engage in my schizophrenia is a troon
Want to accuse me of being a Jew next?
>>97106355
>look less east african, and more like an urban nigger.
Surely then you must be up in arms that he started looking like an African at some point instead of a pointy-toothed gremlin? What is the bait in the art direction changing over time and a character resembling a British man with west African parents?
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>>97106413
THE TROON IS OUT OF CONTROL QUICK!
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>>97106426
>"If I keep saying TROON TROON TROONY TROON maybe they'll just go away"
Sad. I'm sure trannies enjoy living rent free in your head
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>>97105635
Go back to 3 sets a year (+ one supplemental set).
No more UB garbage.
Set Standard rotation back to 2 years.
Remove best of 1 from Arena.

That will do it. Arena BO1 has warped design way too far and it informs bad card design and whiplash constant bannings because of "feel bads" from people who aren't even playing the real game (or even giving any sort of money to WotC, the vast majority of the Arena playerbase is F2P so why they put any stock in their opinions is unknown).
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>>97106448
He's delirious...
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dead game, dead general
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>>97106458
Chin strap getting a lil too tight there, retard? Better get ready for nap time or else the special ed teacher won't give you your extra juice box
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>>97106479
Why the fuck this troon is talking about himself referring to me?
Oh my God he's more crazy than we imagined...
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>>97106489
>we
You are alone. You have and always will be alone. You will die alone, delusional and consumed by hatred. Nobody will mourn you.
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>>97105605
That's a bit wordy, here's a rework.
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Damn the Affinity troonchaser is losing it
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>>97106551
He keeps talking about himself referring to other people...
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How do I get a Magic the Gathering girlfriend?
I'm not trolling, I'm serious.
My ex gf I taught to play Magic. We went to the Bloomburrow prerelease together, she had fun.
I helped her make a bunch of jank decks with bulk cards, but then she hardly ever actually wanted to play.
I probably played 10 games of Magic total with her, including the 2-headed-giant prerelease we did.
Now I have a new girlfriend and I am pretty sure I will never get her to play Magic.
I just want a gf I can play my jank kitchen table decks with. I have over 75 decks, one for every Ravnica guild, Tarkir clan, and Alara shard, plus so many more.
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Hey anons how’s that nonwhite 10 year meta going for ya?
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>>97106103
They reprinted Time Spiral Remastered in 2021. It's the best Set for block constructed. Anyone who says otherwise is still salty from the pickle lock.
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>>97106638
Skill issue.
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>>97106641
God the M15 border is so ass.
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>>97106665
>mazemind tome
not a white deck
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After Spongebob, this is the final boss of UB
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how deep is the peppa lore though?
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>>97106635
just try jump start, don't push further than that.
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>>97106635
You don't. The number of girls who like to play MtG is so low it's essentially zero. Get a bunch of decks that play well and have your current gf badly pilot white-green if she's into family drama or mono-black if she likes to suck. Or play EDH and accept that your new girlfriend has a penis.
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>>97106635
>My ex gf I taught to play Magic.
Fuck you made me read your post, 2/10.
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>>97106721
Oh nevermind I can't fucking read I thought you said "my ex gf taught me to play magic".
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>>97106733
>/mtg/
>can't fucking reading
like pottery
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>>97106635
Jumpstart and if you're feeling really brave (or foolish) teach her how to winston draft with 6 boosters.
Anything beyond that and forget to see her tits without clothes.
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>>97106665
>Modern
>some random ass weekend league
>”Surely this is the only data we need”
Lmao kek what a coping bitch
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>>97106635
You don't want a GF who plays Magic, you want your ex back. Don't confuse the two.
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>>97105174
yes. you just need to cut the fat that isn't magic.
no more UB and propaganda.
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>>97106665
godbless MHayashi
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>>97106635
I got a Magic gf by regularly playing Commander at the LGS. We were both playing janky tribal decks, and we happened to get paired together. I said "Hey gurl, I really like your wolf deck, but have you seen my cat deck?", and it all went from there.
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>>97106635
You gotta date a transwoman, bud. That or just be satisfied with a male friend who will play your shitty kitchen table magic decks.
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>>97106635
don't fall for the "just get a tranny". I have a tranny gf and she doesn't like playing MTG and just has other autistic interests instead
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>I have a tranny GF
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>>97106910
4x tranny or fighting game tranny?
>>97106839
He's cooking, I fear
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>>97106926
>4x tranny or fighting game tranny?
Neither. Reading one.
That said I've been chatting up another who is a TCG one and it's been giving me ideas
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why are you guys like this
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>>97106635
>My ex gf I taught to play Magic
just gotta do it again
There was a good meme about this
>I have a new boyfriend so I guess I'm into rock climbing now lol
but since google is literally worthless I can't find it
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>>97106952
its called shitposting, nobody is actually sodomizing a man in a dress here
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>>97106952
They're putting chemicals in the ink that turn the players gay
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How long does it take for Secret Lairs to ship out?
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>>97106635
It sounds more like you want anyone to play with and you're trying to solve it by having someone effectively captive/cuffed to you via a relationship and forced to put up with it. That and someone who's neurotic enough to entertain your spending habits to build that many decks and collecting dust.
You don't need a gf to solve this problem, you need regular friends.
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>>97106945
>Reading one
Nice. My bestie (purely platonic) is obsessed with history and I've learned a lot about the ancient world over the last few years.
>giving me ideas
Be loyal, anon.
>>97106956
>>I have a new boyfriend so I guess I'm into rock climbing now lol
Reminder fellas: if a woman drops ALL her previous interests to pick up yours she's a bpdemon and you shouldn't talk to her anymore, let alone fuck her.
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>>97106635
you use the UB IP she likes as the bait
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>>97107007
>Be loyal, anon.
I know, I know I should. But I hit it off with this new one over shared interests pretty quickly, and she seems to like me a lot. She's also has a nice tan and pixie haircut which drives me crazy
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>>97107007
I never met a single woman in my entire life whose interests weren't gossiping on facebook 7 hours per day, then scrolling instagram at least 10 hours per day, watching the kardashians, watching netflix at least 5 hours per day, spending her dad's money to buy nail polish, shopping, being taken out for dinner and pretending to like the hobbies of the current alpha male in her life with an half assed attempt.
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>>97107002
This anon sees the truth. 17% of American men have zero friends. FNM is where we would meet, play and go on our autistic ways. I looked into using machine learning and an overhead camera as someone to play against. It can be done but my coding is shit.
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>>97107002
Anybody needs both.
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>>97107079
If only this card cost U
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>>97107028
>She's also has a nice tan and pixie haircut which drives me crazy
Damn giwtwm. No cute trannies at my LGSs but at least they're normal and chill personality-wise
>>97107061
>t. guy who's only concept of a woman is a 20 year old stereotype
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>>97107150
>if only this card was the best cantrip ever printed
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>>97107171
Find me then a woman who NAWALT.
No zoomettes who screech about empathy and patriarchy don't count.
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The bullies were right, playing Magic does make you gay.
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>>97107216
If by gay you mean based then yes magic is totally gay and makes you gay(based).Next youre gonna say Ajani fanart is gay.
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>>97106567
The other rat posters cards are better. Apply yourself.
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>>97106641
Fond memories of absolutely shitting on people with simic tron back in the day. I was such a filthy net decker for fnm.
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>>97107234
Bolas is gay and takes Ugin's knotted dragon dick up his butt.
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>>97106680
I think they should move into free domain stuff next. A steam boat mickey set would be awesome! Or a whinnie the pooh set with that autistic kid and that gay pig thing.
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>>97107234
based
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>>97107191
Yes?
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>>97107264
Dragons dont have dicks or butts they have a cloaca and they dock them
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>>97107284
Then explain why in Tarkir they described Bolas's massive cock head for an entire paragraph.
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>>97107284
Then why do all the cars have dick shaped impressions on them?
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We need handsome woman in mtg not fat blacks
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>>97107351
how old is that gif?
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>>97107351
Real women look like THIS. This is the kind of sex appeal that will save magic!
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>>97107385
This kind of art would unironically save Magic. The game looks so gay and childish now.
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>>97105174
>I evoke for UB
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>>97107395
Only if they keep the part where she invisibly crawls into your bed at night to be close to you.
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>>97107312
Show one car with a dick print just one.
>>97107298
They did not do that post the paragraph or kys.
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>>97107399
Its gonna be stupid with airbending
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>>97107485
>show me
Here you go freak.
https://e621.net/posts?tags=dragons_fucking_cars+
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>>97107284
If dragons have six limbs. Drakes have four limbs. We need to classify the birds with arms as something other than birds. Maybe angels were having sex with birds to spawn species of birds with arms, a Nephilim of sorts
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>>97107528
No retard. Drakes and wyrms dont have wings, wyverns have two legs and two wings, dragons have at least four legs and two wings but they can have more.
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>>97107526
You fucking homo im talking about magic products not your weird fetish porn drawing site retard. Kys.
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>>97107555
>asks for homo stuff
>cries when he gets it
It's almost 2026. You can come out of the closet.
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>>97107528
>exceptionally good non-subversive artwork
Of fucking course it was a pre-2015 artwork.
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=released&q=%21%22Owl+Familiar%22+oracleid%3A099a5835-da6c-4e03-ad3e-aeb448897fed+include%3Aextras&unique=prints
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>>97107547
Drakes and Wyverns are an example of convergent evolution.
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>>97107568
Youre the one that brought it up to begin with and knew exactly where to find it you fucking weirdo. Sorry youre gay sucks to suck.
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>>97107594
>can't tell anons apart
Autism test failed.
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I am dreading TMNT
This is the face mechanic and it fucking sucks dick
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I was going to buy so much of the Avatar set but they sold out of pre-release spots at the local game store and well I was able to get a box it wasn't the one I want. I couldn't even get a play mat. At this point I'm rather sour on the whole thing.
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>>97107588
Those are both wyverns though and neither of them are a dragon or a drake.
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>>97107601
Well then switch youre with xhe and fuck yourself in the face
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>>97107607
>I am dreading TMNT
I can't feel anything other than apathy about any UB set, they all mesh together in my head like one big slop
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>>97107555
>>97107594
>show me dragons fucking cars
>post dragons fucking cars
>wtf why did you post this?
Everyone's fucking with you because you're a retarded newfag who doesn't know what the dragons fucking cars meme is. Go back to twitter or whatever normalfag shithole you came from because you're too young and new to be here. LURKMOAR
Not only that I'm someone entirely seperate because I clocked you as a retard and jumped in to shitpost. Thanks for proving you're that retarded.
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>>97106706
>>97106750
Okay. Is it really that good of an intro? I was thinking of making some simple Duel Decks out of my old bulk. I love putting those together.

>>97106707
I wish trannies were actual women sometimes so there'd be more women playing MTG.

>>97106839
No I don't. I vastly prefer my current gf but I am sad I will never play it with her. And again, even with my ex, it was so rare she actually played with me. And if I wasn't involved, she did not give a fuck about it. I have good memories of Bloomburrow with her, but I have moved on.

>>97106910
>>97106890
I'm not gonna date a tranny. I can't stand putting cock in ass.

>>97106860
How was a single woman at an FNM?
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>>97106956
>just gotta do it again
Yeah but she won't even be willing to learn I feel like.

>>97107002
I have friends, but like I said they freak out a lot over the game and ragequit. They will play low-power kitchen table so it's nice. But I don't live with them. I would live with my girlfriend eventually.

>>97107007
>Reminder fellas: if a woman drops ALL her previous interests to pick up yours she's a bpdemon and you shouldn't talk to her anymore, let alone fuck her.
lol yeah that's what my ex had. It didn't end well.

>>97107014
Until they make one for those romantasy novels she reads, I have no chance.
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>>97107715
>he doesn't like anal
gay much?
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This is a Magic: The Gathering thread, we only date transwomen here.
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>dating
lmao
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>>97107621
You got to learn to read buddy
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>>97103090
I gave in and bought a pack. Got this thing. Could have been better
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>>97107715
The planeswalkerpig is trying to get more women into the game. Unfortunately, she plays EDH and has a penis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLZUfaOW-IQ
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Shouldn’t we be getting more Lorwyn leaks soon?
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>>97107607
Seems fine, if they had named it something else it would've been in a regular set.
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>>97107899
It's getting delayed again because Nickelodeon demanded WotC toreleas Ninja Turtles faster after the success of Avatar
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>>97107777
The flavor text of the right card mentions a dragon but the art is not a dragon i think dont have enough chomosomes
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>>97107636
Riiight youre trolling me sure pal sure. Sidequest status: completed.
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>>97107899
we are getting marvel spoilers next week
dunno about any set
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>>97107715
If you could have a girl who would unironically play Magic with you but only UB. Is it worth it?
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>>97107994
no
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>>97107607
>"We have Map tokens at home."
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>>97105950
>black sack
Anon...how often do you play with black sack?
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>>97107729
>lol yeah that's what my ex had. It didn't end well.
Sorry anon, that blows. Remember what she did and how she acted and don't get got again. Especially don't be like me and be hopelessly into that kinda crazy
>>97107744
Based and real
>>97107790
Decent card. DSK is great to open for value right now
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>>97108057
a lot, why?
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>>97107490
Not really, since you can never get both the effects.
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>>97107607
>doesn't make it a mutant
flavor fail
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>>97106707
There were 3 women at my 30 person prerelease but they all already had boyfriends or husbands (one dragged her husband there and he didn't know how to play lol)
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>>97107886
>has a penis
I can work with this
>plays EDH
I'm out
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>>97107744
Fuck back off to tumblr, Mark.
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>dating
We used to stone normalfags like you back in the day
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>>97107729
>But I don't live with them.
It sounds like my assumption was correct. You are trying to create a captive player in your life who is obligated to tolerate your demands more than a friend because of the relationship and are constantly at hand by living with them. I'm going to warn you here, relationships like these do not last. Lets say she did get into it, as soon as she becomes uninterested in MTG what happens? You already sound dissatisfied with this and the last gf because they didn't devote themselves to being your consistent play partner.
I think you should really ask yourself why you NEED them to be into MTG.
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>>97107964
>when they are so utterly fucking definitively creatively bankrupt they feel the need to put the theros enchantment border which has always signaled that a card was an enchantment on top of another card type and mainly related to theros on top of every enchantment hoping it will attract more slop eating piggies
>the anus mana which signified eldrazi now is the regular colorless mana and looks kitsch as fuck

FIRE
EVERYONE
AT
WIZARDS
EVERY
SINGLE
LAST
ONE
OF
THEM
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I will never forget the day a couple brought their arguments to FNM almost 10 years ago
>FNM, pre round 1 guy and girl are in a conversation that's starting to get pretty heated (I actually knew the girl from high school and had a few classes with her)
>overhear part of it that she's accusing his mom of hating her and trying to get them to break up
>pairings get posted, I'm facing the guy
>he's trying to stonewall her as he's shuffling but she's not having it
>store owner steps in and tells them to stop and take it outside since it's making everyone uncomfortable
>she leaves in tears, he's not holding up much better
>he sucks at the game so trounce him 2-0 in under 20 minutes
>goes to cry in a corner for the rest of the round
>she comes back 2 rounds later from rite aid with sour patch kids and they make up cuddle
Everyone else in the store bonded over how fucking weird that day was for a few weeks. Thank you for reading my blog.
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>>97107547

Where the fuck do you get this retarded "drakes don't have wings" nonsense from? Every source says drakes have wings. With wyrms there's some argument but drakes definitely have them.
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>>97108401
You know nothing about high fantasy my dude.
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>>97108348
>enchantment boarder change from Foundations on is bad
As someone who played through Theros block I don't get what your issue is with it. It felt strange to me how they didn't have the boarder for all enchantments for so long similar to artifacts having a boarder.
I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on why it's bad or does it end at UB butthurt?
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>>97108443
>he thinks that these are animals that follow real taxonomy
People just make it up.
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>>97105174
>TQ
It can be saved, but it won't. At a minimum they would need to stop UB and secret lairs.
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>>97108463
NTA but the theros starry boarder was because enchantments in that block were from Nyx, the stars. It was flavor. Now that every enchantment has it, it loses the meaning it once did.
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>>97108443
>Lindwrum, Amphiptere
Imagine being such a cuck of an animal that you give up two limbs.
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>>97108480
Chinese mythology has nothing to do with high fantasy retard. The morons making up designs arent doing it right.
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>>97108512
Poor wyrmies dont even get a limb just a tongue lmao
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>>97108480
Chinese 'dragons' are actually wurms.
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>>97108516
How about Tolkien? Does he have anything to do with high fantasy? Because this is one of his drawings of dragons.
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>>97108574
These creatures have been morphed by Morgoth of Angband using dark magic and thats literally the only dragon drawing he did without wings.
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I haven't spent a dime on MTG in 6 months, nor have I played in a month, in fact I sold everything I had save for one card, and my life has never been better. Much like OSRS.

Quit this game, anons. Quit this fucking game. It's over.
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>>97107607
this feels like a parody someone here would have made when everyone started getting tired of tokens and counter doubling

>Ah yes, we made a token that turns into a counter! Finally!
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>>97108162
you can but you gotta pay for the "proper" mana cost.
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>>97108574
Haha this nigga thinks the great worms are actual dragons everyone point and laugh!
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>Fucking Talent + Self-bounce is back in the fucking format
>They actually have the fucking gall to print U: Bounce+Draw into a format where THIS EXACT STRATEGY HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE FUCKING UNNACCEPBALE

>LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING DECK THEY ALREADY BANNED IS BACK
how
how is it possible to be total failures of this magnitude
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>>97108623
Here's another drawing of his for one of his own dragons, Glaurung. Yes, his dragons only grew wings later on in the timeline, which is my whole fucking point. They were dragons before and dragons after, the wings did not change what they were.
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>>97106665
>4x Candy Trail in Modern
An actual god gamer
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>>97108532
No they're not, wurms don't have limbs and can't fly
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>>97108735
These things would have to have massive helium sacks throughout the body to fly. It would be about maintaining buoyancy and swimming or gliding through the air. Chinese dragons are UB slop.
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>>97108783
or... it could be using magic
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what the heck
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>>97109004
whoa that's pretty cool
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>>97106567
>brown fur
>non-human
Not a white card
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>TQ
MTG can be fixed by featuring MORE Japanese UB sets. I would start with Naruto and print a zero cost artifact called "Ichiraku Ramen." For one green (because it's in the Leaf village), tapping, and sacrificing it; draw a card and gain 2 life.
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>>97108783
Its magic>>97108883
and its also a spirit!
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>>97108690
>grew wings later
He was correcting his mistake. You could just say “i was wrong” and i wouldnt have to call you a retard but here we are i guess. Retard.
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>>97109231
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>>97105630
Is the big score even a real set? It's more like a standard legal bonus sheet.
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>>97109407
>Is the big score even a real set?
it's supposed to be like march of the machines: aftermath, it just happened to release alongside outlaws
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>>97107234
It is. He's gay.
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>>97107485
>Bolas froze up, staring at Narset like a deer in headlights. The expression of shock looked completely unnatural on a dragon that so often bore an expression of arrogant confidence.
>Ugin soon followed, his eyes widening as he turned his head, noticing that their union now had a spectator.
>Ugin tried to pull himself free, only for the two of them to wince as Ugin's knot kept them stuck together, quite literally joined at the hip.
>Bolas turned his head away, trying to imagine himself anywhere else.
>Ugin's mouth opened to speak, only for no words to come. For once, the wise spirit dragon was a complete loss for words, having been caught in a raw moment of intimacy.
>Narset's gaze narrowed as she turned to Ugin, her expression unreadable.
>The two dragons found themselves dreading the words that would next come out of her mouth.
>"Master Ugin," breathed Narset, overwhelmed by the urge to sink to her knees, to prostrate herself before him. "Please. The Multiverse needs your assistance. The dragonstorms have grown in intensity. They've spread from Tarkir to the other planes. Soon, all will be devoured if nothing is done. We've come to you seeking assistance, so, please, help us."
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>>97106641
So it had two releases, one in 2020 and one in 2021?
What was the 2020 release date?
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Unironically a busted card. Lessons being a whatever mechanic from strixhaven probably blindsided people furing spoiler season
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>don't want to play arena anymore
>don't even like mtg anymore
>4 wins/day feels like a slog
help
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>>97109789
stop playing arena
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>>97109511
Thanks i think its based as well
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>>97109789
Play Shadba, Master Duel, or PokemonTCG Live instead if Arena is getting stale for you.
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>>97109789
you know what to do anon.
is time to search for greener pastures.
shadowerse, yugi, premodern if you still want to remain into magic
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>>97109857
Kill yourself, furnigger tourist.
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>>97109240
It wasn't in the real life timeline that they changed, it's in the fictional timeline. He didn't retcon or "correct" anything, those wingless dragons are still part of the story. Do you also think magic gradually disappearing from Middle Earth was Tolkien correcting his mistake of a fantasy world having magic? You would be functionally illiterate.
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I'm very late to talk about this but pic related seems insane in cat food decks, sacrificing something every turn is trivial and it completely dodges graveyard hate
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>>97110090
Works with fetchies too which is cool
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>>97110090
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7465186
I play this one.
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>>97108069
>Sorry anon, that blows. Remember what she did and how she acted and don't get got again. Especially don't be like me and be hopelessly into that kinda crazy
I'll avoid it. Just sucks cause my expectations are all out of whack now.

>>97107994
no not just UB that wouldn't be worth it.

>>97107886
I'm not into trannies but if she was a real woman yeah I'd be down for it she's thicc and cute and probably soft.

>>97108305
>I think you should really ask yourself why you NEED them to be into MTG.
I don't. It's just wishful thinking. Just nice to have something for us to do a few nights a week after work that isn't just netflix goyslop. My current girl wants to start going to gym, and that's fine too, but I'd like a game we could play together regularly.

>>97108349
kek okay maybe I feel a bit better that she doesn't.
what ended up happening with them?
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>>97106635
Find a GF, teach her to play.
But you'll fail because you like 90% of players can't help but play 'for them', so they'll never learn and get upset when you force them to do some inane combo.
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>>97110055
Thats a cool looking drake
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>>97109343
See this guy gets it
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>>97110023
>Ajani literally lives in a pride
You're the tourist.
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You can't just teach this game to people anymore. It's undergone 30 years of powercreep and there are 10 new mechanics every year. Not even going into how expensive it is. Pretty much the only Magic players I've seen under 30 play it because their parents played it. Magic players are like English longbowmen, you need to start a generation in advance. Why would a random kid pay $500 to play paper Magic when they can play Fortnite for free?
That's why WotC is just juicing its aging playerbase as hard as possible, but this is causing record levels of burnout, and it's not the kind of burnout that just goes away. Even during Ravager Affinity which straight up killed the game, there was still flavor and some wiggle room to compete with the top tier decks that kept people interested so when the meta changed they'd come back. Now? The game looks like shit from an ass and keeps getting worse, and so many sets come out a year that if you drop out for a couple years you won't know what the fuck is happening.
People will cope and say Magic has been dying for ten years but it's still around, but really, this game is in trouble.
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>>97106665
bazed
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>>97110379
WotC cornered the market on slop consumers the moment they established the reserved list. The fact that didn't instantly kill the game tells you that nothing will.
>Print one of the most powerful blocks in history to the reserved list (Urza)
>Conveniently end the reserved list with one of the weakest blocks in history (Masques)
>People keep buying
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>>97110379
I agree completely. If I had to imagine, nobody is really getting into MtG right now.
>"b-b-but UB sets are selling better than ever! There's new players!!!! They love it!!!! The data!!!!!!" -Nosewater
These people will move on quickly. If you only got into MtG because of Cloud Strife or some retarded shit, then you are probably a big goyim and your attention will shift as soon as they announce Cloud for Mario Kart or Dominos pizza or whatever dumb shit you'll buy because property you like is on it and you must consoom. Also a chunk of this is just scalpers praying it's profitable, not players, which is no good from a financial perspective because it just creates an awkward situation where if nobody wants to play the game all the scalpers/investorfags go down with the ship in a fiery blaze.
No established players are coming in now.
Established players are feeling disenfranchised so a chunk of them are leaving.
I agree with your point, even the people I knew that were keeping up with every set and every product just...can't do it. Keeping up with 24/7 spoilers and powercreep that warps the game nearly every other set is just too much for the average person. Other options for entertainment exist, and demand less money and time. I assume that's why WotC is going full sellout mode, and getting their bag while this shit is still breathing.
My question for whatever stooge at WotC would be: what's the long term plan? Like really. Sure you can do the crossover shit, but forever? What happens when you run out of IPs that people care about? Or ones that want to work with you? Revisit old IPs? Do original content? You can't exactly backtrack from being Crossover/Fortnite, you can only ramp it up until it burns out because expectations will only grow for this slop. What's keeping new players around, what's in it for them if they only joined because Captain Picard will be in it?
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>>97110435
This, just this. FF is the bigger example. You can attract lots of retard drones with Sephirot, Cloud and Tifa but when they see pic related? Will they keep around? And with Star Trek? Same with the fans of actual Magic, what the old customer base could think when WotC is explicitly printing more NON-MAGIC products than actual Magic products? Besides the actual problem, SEVEN fucking products that’s more than what we actual have a set every 2 months and only that is already discouraging for most of the casual players.

Chasing the dragon of greed and the next unprecedented success will be the actual demise of this company.
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>>97110379
i got into magic last month man!
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>>97110476
was it really necessary to make a strictly worse ninjitsu?
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>>97110486
It lets you ninjutsu noncreature spells
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>>97110486
Why yes I would love uncounterable instant speed wheel of fortune in Standard.
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>>97110526
>uncounterable
How so? It still goes on the stack, no?
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>>97110535
Ninjutsu is an ability. You don't cast them when using it.
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>>97109789
only log in to mtga every 3 days to do the dailies then scram
you will build up enough wildcards over a few months to build whatever you want when you get the itch to return
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>>97110526
The word "MAY" does quite a bit of heavy lifting on Raph
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>>97105174
>Can MtG be fixed and/or saved from its current state?
tcg companies can take a dump on toilet paper and you'll still buy it for 599 us dollars
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>>97110552
The line can not go up forever.
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>>97110558
That's where you're wrong kiddo, think of the Indian market. We can easily make a year of sets based entirely on Tech Support, Cows, and poop. Use AI to make all the card art and mechanics, and boom. #1 seller worldwide
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>>97110540
>Ninjutsu
Yes but this is Sneak and the rules text clearly says the spell is cast. Retard.
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>>97110300
No I don't do that. I just make them a really simple low powered ramp deck and then play some really gay janky deck against it and have fun. I seriously do not care about power level in this game. I am not going to spend 200 dollars on a deck for the same fucking experience as 20 dollars on a deck. Yeah the modern meta and legacy meta are kinda fun but I feel like they get old fast.
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play

premodern
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>>97110684
Ok, you gonna give me the cards?
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>>97110608
Maybe if you read a bit further up the reply chain you would see the anon asking why it was necessary to make it cast instead of immediately resolve.
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>>97110684
unreserved
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Premodern no RL = the only format that will survive.
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>>97110835
Tempest block through Odyssey block, reserve list banned
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>>97110486
it is strictly better ninjutsu
They clarified that sneak creatures will enter attacking. This description is just not available on the shown pic because it is a non creature.
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>>97111101
We don't even have that gay ass tmnt set revealed yet, why are they doing this?
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>>97111101
>what do you want to see?
hasbro ceos fired
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>>97111104
Desperate trying to get someone interest since ninja turtles didn't got hyped enough
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>>97111101
Marvel sucks do DC next i want plastic man
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>>97110957
Yeah i dunno about that its harder to counter ninjutsu
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>>97111104
everyone is negative on tmnt sets, so they are trying to hype next product
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>>97107790
Gave it a 2nd chance. That's a lot cooler. I think i'm satisfied
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>>97110957
Sneak is worse then Ninjutsu because Ninjutsu is an ABILITY and thus much harder to counter. The only playable counter ability in Standard is Tishana's Tidebinder and it's pretty much the only reactive counterplay to Kaito there is
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>>97111101
a shooting at wotc
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>>97110486
They do that from time to time, no? Take a problematic mechanic and try to fix it or tone it down? Like they took Infect and made Toxic, they took Banding and made Enlist.
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>>97111389
Improvise is fixed Affinity, too.
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I think this might be my favorite card of all time
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>>97111101
>What do you want to see? :^)
The absolute and complete annhilation of Hasbro CO. And the mass layoff of WotC.
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list
You know I wonder how they order the format in their banned and restricted list. It would make sense to put them in alphabetical order, or by the numbers of card available. But they went standard - modern - vintage - legacy - commander - pauper - pioneer - historic - timeless - brawl - alchemy - block - two-headed giant - Oathbreaker - magic online.
Pioneer being there is the strangest one, like why not put it just after standard it would make sense to go standard - pionneer - modern.
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>>97109004
highly cultured playmat, but what deck plays sheoldred and fon?
>>97111613
i put this in every black deck in modern
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>>97111101
Everyone at Hasbro/wizards losing their jobs.
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>>97111101
I hope for some cool OM2 art, probably with fewer spiders this time.
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>>97109004
i just realized if i played paper now and someone ran sld and ub versions of existing cards i'd have to pick up and read every single one to know wtf they are
jesus christ
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>>97106635
I would give you advice but FUCK YOU I want one more.
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>>97108532
But they literally have arms and hands.
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>>97110379
People have been saying the same thing about Yugioh for over a decade now and they're still smaller than us.
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>>97111815
For me, the city setting in Marvel has me looking forward to more New Capenna cards in OM2; could easily be the last time we ever get any since I doubt there will be any more digital only sets (this blunder being probably only for what the faggot boomers thought would be the pinnacle money-printing UB), and we'll never visit the 'poor performing ((per the data))' plane of NC ever again

People hate on SNC and call it a hat set but I felt it had way more going for it to be placed next to the true, super generic and souless hat sets that were Thunder Junction and Karlov Manor
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