Bonerrr Edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97102984>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:We got a whopping 1 things from Grotsmas so far. How do you guys like it?>Limited Time TQ:Total War: Age of Sigmar or 40k?
>>97110873Anytime I see Anthropology major I can go, "Hey neat. I got one of those." and then remember it's basically done dickall for me.Anyways, I'm gonna go to sleep now. Enjoy the thread anons.
>>97110873>TQIts better than a fucking space marine painting tutorial like there aren't already a billion of them out there already. I like the insinuation that they're going to take the philosophy of grotmas moving forward.>Limited Time TQ:40k just for it to kill CA for good.
>>97110883>I like the insinuation that they're going to take the philosophy of grotmas Scourge of ghyran rules is what I meant not fucking grotmas.
>>97110885I like it too, I hope they keep some of the profiles that are universally just a straight improvement to the base and use new seasons to do soggy type releases themed around it, like if it's "Clash at Shyish", having units that care about death, either causing or receiving
>>97110873AOS, if not because it'll be neat to see certain shit in motion. Secondary reason because fantasy and 40k players will lose their fucking minds and I can get a good chuckle out of it. Like I said in the last thread, if we wind up with a Vermintide esque situation where it turns out the reason the game has languished with minimal support is because for like the past 1.5ish years they've been working on another game (AOS) would be pretty funny. I'd enjoy it and honestly it wouldn't be too hard to just make a smaller scale AOS game since you can reuse assets and animations pretty fucking easily. (Just slap in some new maps for the realms and some new stuff for the AOS armys)
>>97110873>TQNo opinion yet, still too early.>Limited TQIt’ll probably be 40k because that makes money and CA needs that more than ever. AoS would be cool but I suck at total war and wouldn’t be able to enjoy it much. A hilarious curveball would be Total War: Star Wars.
>>97110873Total War: 40K. As much as I want a Total War game for AoS, the Idoneth army would have 5 fucking units. That's smaller then some subfactions in Total War. Even if you go the Drycha route and start stealing other armies units, it's only a half fix to a malnourished roster. Anyone complaining about how "bulky" the Stormcast army is, are simply coping. On the tabletop you can get away with it, but in a video game it's jank as fuck when you have 3 stacks of the same 5 units. As for the Grotsmas army, I'll take it. It's neat. The rules are bland as fuck and at minimum it's a step in the right direction.
>new bred>look inside>/v/ermin tqI sleep
Anons, some gsg questions. Do I need more than 2 blocks of 20 grots in a functional 2k list?Since squigs herds are worthless for holding objectives, I assume theyre pure hammers. How good are they? Finally, if anyone has the book, Id really appreciate it.. Pic rel.
You can generally predict low quality of the OP based on the order of words in the thread subject
>>97111155damn I was just making the extra TQ because the CA stream's today
>>97111047Here you go lad4eGSGhttps://files.catbox.moe/e603kx.pdfAlso here's the 1e one for some lore1eGSGhttps://files.catbox.moe/0tso9b.pdfI don't think you need more than 40 grots ever. The way the badmoon works you're better off having a little bit of everything
>tqEh, better than the 40k short story or the hh paint guide I suppose. The actual scrolls seem alright to me? I'm pretty happy with the implication that they will keep some of the soggy stuff around even after it's done, keeps the whold thing from feeling like a battlepass, plus some armies really need their soggy scrolls.>timed tqNot a chance in hell it's not 40k, but if it were tw : aos (it's not), the seethe would be extremely funny. This general would become unuseable for a while though.
What your hopes for new Dwarves that will absorbing the fyreslayers
>>97111238I don’t wanna see rangers. That’s all.
>>97111251Anon...I....
>>97111255Im still mad that it wasnt a fucking root king.
>>97111261He was in the wrong half of the box
>>97111261>still mad that it wasnt a fucking root kingWhy the fuck wasn't that made a full faction instead of fyreslayers? Animist druid dwarves sound cool as shit.
>>97111255What? He's kino.
>>97111275They were first introduced like a year after Fyreslayers already released. And they're just Sylvaneth auxiliary.Like the whole gimick is Dispossessed who joined Sylvaneth instead of CoS
>>97111167Ty anon, you have inspired me to assemble one last git before bed.
>>97110873>Nagash>short hat
>>97111298The badmoon spoke to me once...https://youtu.be/UJhyEHSh9DU?si=venb_m9hIN4SCjr_He saidsweet dreams ya git
>the only Tzeentch mortal character is a Tzaangor
I hope GW makes an aniversary model combinging Weridbrute and Fanatic.Like have brute steal fanatic's ball and chain, but the grot still holds on to the part that's going to hit stuff
>>97110883>40k just for it to kill CA for good.If it's mid at least, CA will live.I guarantee they're not giving it "Three Kingdoms" treatmentIt's AoS total war game that might end up bankrupting the company if the sales are bad
>>97111406Kitbash a weird brute swinging a fantastic on the chain, who's swinging a ball himself
>>97111414A total war 40k would be competing with dawn of war. One of them is gonna die.
how the fuck do you even plan a game for aos when the setting changes at a moment's notice and whole factions are scrapped or redesigned faster than you can implement them?
>>97111423You just do it. It's not that hard.
>>97110883>>97111414A 40k Total War just doesn't seem like 'fit' to me. CA games have blocks of 60-100 guys running around the field or firing bow arcs etc.40k has WW1 style battles and some that closer to modern warfare. They don't stand in big square blocks of 100+ and charge around, its a either a much bigger scale with planet-wide battles or micro-scale.On top of this, we have Dawn of War coming, and thats cribbing from Total War with the unit bar etc. They are going to look so samey if they both come out within a year or two.My feeling is it's going to be Star Wars of AoS.
>>97111421dawn of war looks like the weaker one, people are glazing over it, but it's empty excitement
>>97111423For one not being mindless and being capable of adapting your dudes to the changes. The changes to the setting also aren’t nearly as radical as the hour of ruin has introduced, soul wars was big but it was more of a +1 kind of interaction to the mortal realms. If you wanted to justify why cos lose their old superior guns than a easy justification is just that it was easier to make the blunderbusses causing them to create a surplus of it drowning out superior black powder weapons, and your dudes are just elites who can use outlier weapons. There’s precedent for that happening in real life.
>>97111423How the fuck do you make a game about WW2 Stalingrad when the land controled by Ukrainian and Russian forces today changes every month?
>>97111414Tw aos, even if it were to flop harder than realms of ruin, wouldn't do too much damage to ca's finances because it's cheap as fuck to make. Half the models, in some cases entire factions, can be ported straight from the whfb trilogy. Conceptually it's also much closer to the total war formula, only maybe needing some thought in how they approach maps and shit. 40k on the other hand, will need a lot of tinkering to make it fit in the classic total war style, since it's much more focused on ranged combat for one. It would also require far more new assets to be made.That being said it's of course obvious that even a meh total war : 40k would rake in ridiculous amounts of money, compared to even a succesfully done tw : aos. There's also fantasy fatigue to consider, 40k will be something fresh.Tldr aos is low risk but relatively low reward, 40k is medium risk for enormous reward.
>>97111460>Half the models, in some cases entire factions, can be ported straight from the whfb trilogy.no, they can't, gw threw a hissy fit about tzaangors in tww not being allowed to have beaks and you think they could simply port over shit that in aos has got its own models or new faction identity to reference?
Oh god this general is gonna be awful when that reveal show is live isn’t it. What time does it start so I know when to dip.
>>97111480In like 6-7 hours I think. And yeah there's probably gonna be some spillover here. Hopefully it won't be too bad. I think the best way to steer things away is to get a discussion going about some other topic.
>>97111450I want that book so bad. Ravaged Coast was alright but this one seems like a step up.
>>97110873>Total War: Age of Sigmar or 40k?40k, please. The TWW secondaries are insufferable as it is, imagine if they had an actual legitimate reason to come here. Make them the 40kids' problem.No, what AoS needs is Stormtide. You can even bring back the rats, why not?
If each faction got their own video game, what genre of game do you think would work best for each of them?
>>97111414In terms of what I think will happen, normally I'd be betting 100% 40K, but some of CA's teasers in the last few days are saying shit like "the end of the world is just the beginning" which feels an awfully lot like an AoS tease, so I dunno. In terms of what works best...40K has money potential but it would require a radical redesign to work at all in TW and a lot of people lately are ignoring the fact that 40K video games can and do flop all the fucking time, it's not a free money printer by any means. AoS TW by comparison is easy to do, almost too easy. Even if it's not announced tomorrow it feels inevitable.
>>97111469Skaven, seraphon, ogres (for now), basically all of chaos all have tons models already in the game that are 1 to 1 between the different systems. Not to mention all the random holdovers in DoK, gits, gravelords, ... Even if gw were extra anal (I doubt they even would or could, ca would have already bought the rights to use both ips in this case), and they would need to change things slightly, they could probably still reuse the model and/or animations and simply tweak some minor shit.I also think that gw has more to win from a succesful tw:aos than ca, they'll probably be a bit more chill with that kind of stuff anyway.
>>97110873Is it just my general antipathy for turning things into anime girls speaking, or is this design really fucking shit? I can barely see any Nagash elements in it.>>97111423Same way basically nothing in DOW1 is still canon (blood raven primarch lmao) but it's still regarded as a good game. You just do it.>>97111499I would pay so much aethergold for a Kharadon DRG clone
>>97111480It's already awful. Luckly there's not much going on atm, so we can just wait it out
>>97111504It's a bad design. Only thing that even slightly relates is the skull face. Not even colour sheme matches
>>97111500The greatest contribution that game could even possibly have is creating a cohesive world map for the setting that people can point to and recognize. Would be neat if they had different boards to play on for like aqshy versus ghyran etc And could add new realms as DLC campaigns instead of just characters
>>97111499In all seriousness I'd rather not think about it. I'm not gonna make a vidya and I get no enjoyment out of imagining very niche video games that will never exist.
>>97111523Dinosaur models make me happy.
>>97111499>FEC Mystery visual novel where it’s kinda like gnosia >soublight Musou like overlord >night haunt Unironically they’re suited for a grand strategy game or something. I can’t think of it. >obr Rougelite jrpg 4 niggas in a row where they can customize their bones and can promote themselves into things like death riders or morghasts Order is best for a divinity style rpg.
>>97111480Eh the usual suspects will be busy in their own threads. I think at worst we'll get a few >AOSSISSIES REALLY THOUGHT THEY'D GET THEIR OWN GAME OH NONONO
>>97111529Urm those aren't dinosaurs chud. Trust the taxonomy
>>97111423It's not that big a deal, and supporting a living game also has it's advantages. One of the big problems with TWW is that, being a dead game they had to work harder and harder and reach deeper into their own assholes to come up with DLC. CA started with the obvious shit and then increasingly had to deep dive into obscure 2E armies, old white dwarf articles, etc in order to add anything new to the game.With AoS otoh, DLC content just delivers itself to your doorstep several times a year. Plus AoS now is getting close to the point where it's already reinvented every WHFB army, so a lot of the churn should be settled after the Ogre/Fyreslayer updates and Malerion getting souped with DoK next edition probably.
oh wait by game he meant like video games. I thought he was talking about a table top game and having narrative stuff going on.
>>97111556Are ogres the only ones left where basically the entire faction is leftover whfb models?
Anyone got a copy of Lumineth 2nd editon Battletome?
>>97111564>this Anon thought someone was talking about traditional games on /tg/ and not random viday shit
>>97111565Mawtribes has a few AoS kits (Tyrant, Gorger, Bloodpelt Hunter, Hrothgorn and the Pirate). Not a bad start but the Tyrant and UW warband aren't in line with the new proportions of the Bloodpelt
>>97111569First or second one?
what a guild marshal finds when hes back home to greywater only to find that some cyst brothers made it a more suitable abode.
Anyone got the new Blacktalon anime?
>>97111460A little child's take.CA is owned by the publicly-traded company Sega. Nobody there is in a position to be satisfied with workmanlike mediocre flop games for an unloved fantasy franchise. Especially following on the success of TWW.GW would also be very tender about another AoS game flopping. How many times can that happen before the license is seen as worthless for game makers? GW is not in the business of stubbornly devaluing their IPs.AoS is a huge risk, and they will only do it if doing it is a requirement for doing a separate 40K game.
>>97111682Yeah, ca is known for only doing high budget masterpieces. Like troy, or thrones of britannia.Even warhammer 1 was a pretty cautious foray into non-historical total wars. It had a whopping 4 start positions, 5 if you count the preorder chaos warriors.40k is the obvious choice, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them shit out a total war saga aos game or something in a couple of years to test the waters. Again, it's quite cheap all things considered.
Can you faggots take this discussuon somewhere else?
what are the best mounted units in each faction?Include heros as long as they arent on monsters.
>>97111741Troy was made by CA: Sofia and Britannia would've already been in development before TW Warhammer (or TWW2, or TWW3) saw success and set future expectations.
>>97111773Best as in strongest or the coolest looking?
>>97111779coolest looking
>>97111773Eels and Sharks
>>97111914eels are cool but the shark isnt really a mount. I prefer the sea king personally.
>>97111609They had more than one in 2nd edition? Then both? I was thinking of the one in the release box set.
>>97111537>obr game about promoting your dudes>when it is part of obr lore that they dont get promotions, only demotionsgive me a game like the old god of wars with the ossiarch version of a knight questor instead
>>97111450He is referring to video games, which have thus far featured units which were squatted (most being Soul Wars centric unfortunately). None of the games really explored the setting so now that it's a little more concrete it isn't a reach. I can imagine TW AoS releasing a few years ago with landsknect fighting alongside duardin and wanderers, Aventis leading Hammerhal's armies, etc but we dodged that I suppose.
>>97111930>They had more than one in 2nd edition?Yeah the way releases got handled was kinda weird. LRL got two tomes with less than a year between them. Something similar happened with HoS. Shit was kinda dumb.Anyway, a bunch of LRL stuff just dropped in d/uHcFBF, you can pick whatever you like from there.
>>97111967Though I suppose TWW is basically irrelevant to the setting of TOW tbf ironically
>>97111967Look at those beautiful BBMs in the back.
>>97111980Slaanesh had a clearly 1st edition battletome release early into 2nd and another at the very end. LRL is just elf pandering shit and opposition to the obvious tactic of just selling a supplement like TOW does
>>97111988BVILT for Sigmar
>>97111980>Iliatha musters for war.
>>97111773Streaching definition of mount a bit
Story today.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kpctm3l6/grotmas-calendar-day-4-a-bone-chilling-tale/
Not what I expected but okay.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kpctm3l6/grotmas-calendar-day-4-a-bone-chilling-tale/
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>>97111980Sorry but how do I reach d/uHcFBF? Much appreciated
>>97112045
>>97112052
>>97112035>>97112045>>97112052>>97112061nta, but cool now I want to see Warhammer Wacky Races.
>>97112180WWR would work better with monsters to have multiple crewmates on each one
>can't decide if i want to paint my tzeentch units in a uniform color scheme for visual clarity or paint every miniature in a unique scheme for fluff reasons
>>97112200Try unique
>>97112200colors all over the place
>>97112040>>97112041Grotmas is literally going to be filler until the 40k dataslate and warhound reveal isn’t it
>>97112272Probably. So far this is the least interesting advent they've done and I'm including the ones that were just 24 pictures of the same box set released across 24 days.
>>97112272Isn't it usually that?
>>97112200Go unique, AOS doesn't have too big of army sizes so it'll at least be easier comparatively. And technically if they're all unique that's a uniform(?)
>>97112040>Mercenary RoR >Fluffy AoR Please god tell me it's not just the delayed SoG HoH stuff they were going to release anyway
>>97112281Grotmas last year spoiled me, I thought it was so popular they’d do it again
>>97112211>>97112217>>97112284Its mostly tzaangors so i decided to do a unified scheme for the armor and unique skins that fit the armor.Only need to choose a armor color ,maybe something neutral like iron with gold trim?Also sphinx for tzeentch fucking when.
>>97111529Those are clearly reptiles you idea
>>97112281No but GW have fired all their marketing Staff
>>97112325*Its mostly for tzaangors Shit like kairic acolytes can be in a uniform scheme and horrors im gonna do in their respective colors but in varied tones.
>>97112040Literally useless AI slop 'short stories' instead of interesting rules Fucking great
>>97112272Warhound reveal?
>>97112325You'd figure the brain cat would fall into that but I think it's STD exclusive along with all the other weird monsters (probably for one more edition before GW sends them to the legends mines)
>>97112333>AI slopcome on now
>>97112333You can't just call whatever you dont like AI slop, you're gonna dilute the term more than it already is.
>>97112357>>97112360If you don't realize how trivially easy it would be to put together this slop through ChatGPT I pity you
>>97112382you should use ChatGPT to confirm that information for you.
>>97112382>something being possible = that thing having actually happenedthis is beyond low iq thinking
>>97112382>He thinks GW has to use AI to produce bad stories
>>97112382And you don’t realize how unlike ai generated slop it reads. It’s not flowy or overly descriptive while trying to avoid the same adjectives and there’s exactly one use of em dashes to indicate an aside thought.
>>97112436That's the biggest problem with AI writing, it would take more time to prompt it out and have someone verify and check all the bullshit for errors or weird bullshit as opposed to just having some in house guy knock out a couple pages in a day.
>pestigors have 1 defence, ignoring 1 point of damage in every attack sequence >heroes have 2 attacks max >if you miss with one of your attacks the attack action is irrelevant, similarly Edmark's ability that does 1 wound on a 5+ when hit would do nothing against a Pestigor unless he was hit twice and rolled a 5+ for each hit (pestigors have two attacks requiring a 5+ each to hit) Darkwater seems pillowfisted af and entirely swingy
It's total war the old world
>>97112568Okay now fuck off.
Settra btfo again
LMAOOOO AOSISSIES REALLY THOUGHT THEIR STINKY IP WAS GETTING A GAME LOOOOOOL
>>97112568TOW has zero appeal to anyone. Everyone knew it'd be end times or 40k
Welp time to hop out of the thread for the next 6 hours.
Stupid question because it's literally in the name, but REGIMENTS of renown are in fact REGIMENTS and not auxiliaries, right? Like, they don't give my opponent a free command point if I pick up an aleguzzler or the killabows RoR? Thinking of how I can fill out my presumptive gsg once I build what I have.
>>97112568>nothing has actually been announced yetOK bro, nice fanfic
>>97112617It’s more fantasy. Of course. AoS sister you can cope however you like but your IP is mainstream sales poison.
>>97112061Are troggs already monsters, or not yet?
>cry about end times for over a decade >OMG I'M SO HYPED TO PLAY THROUGH THE END TIMES!!!
>>97112629>bro is declaring victory over DLC slop before the actual new games have been announced
>>97112647AND STOP IT
>>97112651Kino. GW’s biggest mistake will be fixed by the players.
Why even call it The End Times if you’re going to release more DLC after? You announcing that means it’s not really the end times it’s just a big dlc.
>>97112669>why does a company want to keep making content for their profitable game indefinitely
Maybe it's therapy to relive the worst point of time in their warhammer careers. Playing just the end times over and over again.Love how they're shitposting a perceived victory over AoS by celebrating the death of the old world.
>>97112683They literally just said there is no plan to stop making dlc after end times. So it’s not an actual end times to AoS thing, it’s just a bigger dlc they want to market and charge more for probably.
>So this new dlc will have 3 new leaders>And NagashSHUT UP ABOUT SKELETOR SHOW THE OTHER 3
>>97112697Neferara was shown off in the trailer
>>97112697it was leaked months ago who in this End Times DLC apprantly
>>97111549>>97112599pottery
Rumours are it was going to be AoS until CA saw the magnitude of the HoH flop. That panicked them.
>>97112180Check out the recent issue of white dwarf. That's basically what the chariot racing scenario was.
>>97112714well what was it
Damn the chat was really hating on the TWW segment.
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>>97112767Valten +Northern Empire/Ulric unitsThanqual+ Verminlords Stormfiends etc.are at least two of the things coming
>>97112775Are historical total war players mad or something? What was the issue?
>total war future titles dumbed down by consoles It’s over. AoS total war is never coming. However retardeded you thought CA was, you were too conservative.
>>97112795Historical players just got Med 3. As a fantasy and history player i am so hyped
>>97112775>>97112795they spent too long on it with that awkward "interview"
>>97112799Med 3 is in super early pre-production
>>97112775Taking 30 minutes to discuss a DLC on a stream that was advertised to announce multiple new games is rarely well received.
>>97112799Yeah, pretty hyped in to play Med 3 in 5+ years when it comes out.
>>97112804>>97112822That is quite a bummer
I’m gonna be raising a kid by the time any of these games come out, fuck outa here.
>>97112776They won't do it but I hope the Glotkin keeps the goofy accent they had from the AOS maggotkin trailer.
>>97112851>gaymer>ever touching a woman
>>97112846FR, this med3 announcement has the exact same energy as TOW did two days after they got a greenlight from GW and all they had made so far was a title and a banner. I mean fuck, they haven't even finished building the game engine they're hoping to make this game with.
>40keks lost>AoSisters lost>FantasyCHADS won>HistoryGODS wonGood day
>>9711289340k is being announced on the 11th they just basically said.
>>97112902It's that or Star Wars
>>97112902There's a very high chance it'll actually be Star Wars. There was a leak that a big Star Wars game will be announced at the game awards next week, which is the date they just confirmed...Plus multiple leaks/rumors about a Star Wars TW game prior to this.
>>97112893>HistoryGODS wonHistoryGODS got confirmation that CA has had zero new history games in the works until like four days ago. Big release coming in 2032 though, can't wait.
>>97112932As long as we can both agree on AoSisters losing I will cede that point
>>97112937Getting a game made by current CA is a loss regardless.
>total war Who cares?If i wanted to play video games i sure wouldn't play that dogshit series.
>>97112967Im just here to laugh at the people that were delusional to believe that any company would make an AoS video game of their own volition. The only way you will ever get an AoS game is if GW forces a studio to make one to access the 40k IP. And then it'll turn out like the AoS rpg, dogshit written by people trying to simply release it rather than those who care about the setting.
>>97112973AoS RPG is by the same slop factory pumping out TOW and WHFrp
>>97113045That's what I am saying. The only reason they made an AoS rpg before promptly pretending it doesn't exist was to secure the license for Fantasy, which they actually care about.
>>97113071>actually care aboutIt's all slop anon, their WHF and TOW slop isn't any better than their AoS slop.
>>97113071>promptly pretending it doesn't existEither you have no idea about the scope of the content support Soulbound got after release or you don't know what "promptly" means.
>>97113162hes a SEA monkey from /vg/, dont worry about it.
>>97111980Nevermind I figured it out, thanks man
>>97112746The darkwater flop removed all doubt
>>97113071That's presumptuous. GW have no influence on licensed projects hence CA aren't making a 40k game when GW saw record breaking profits from Space Marines 2 last year.They approve proposals and that's about it.
>>97112746>>97113251"We had the game all produced and a trailer ready but then decided to stop development because of like 5 schizos on 4chan"
>>97113296They actually did change it last minute. But the guy is wrong, it was Darkwater flopping that did it, they were still holding out hope after he HoH flop.
>>97113172It's pretty funny how much that place seethes about a game that has 0 influence over their vidya. I get why wfg gets mad for example, but if anything aos helped total war warhammer become a reality. Then again anything /v/ related seems to just be a shithole in general so I assume it's more due to the mass hysteria of that place.
>>97113298I heard it was actually that Nighthaunt story flopping for Grotmas.
>>97113298And what’s your source?
I saw mall santa give a child a Darkwater box and he cried. They couldn't get a picture taken because he wouldn't settle down after that until I gave him a box of The Old World Tomb Kings Skeletons but that was on the way out of the grotto
>>97113319Tbh if I was a kid and I got dark water I’d be pretty pissed
>>97113310Anon don't engage with obvious shitposting what the fuck are you doing? It's unbecoming.
>>97113337It’s only half shitposting to say dark water is a flop. If anything even if it’s not a flop, it’s still a piss poor game despite the pretty good models.
>>97113354Unfortunately GW can't flop at this point. It'll sell great despite being terrible
>>97113319My dad gave me a Helsmiths of Hashut box and I stabbed him 13 times in the stomach before leaving him on the side of the road. Thankfully I used his wallet to buy a proper kit and got myself the new Old World Mauraders.
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>>97113364>It'll sell great despite being terribleCounterpoint, the other big flops this year sold poorly. Sunstealas and HoH are languishing on shelves to this day ( their limited print boxes I mean not the reg stock shit )
>>97113400Really I think the aos boxes are flops because they cost a shitload of cash for not that many miniatures. And they try to justify the cost with a limited edition battletome, which have less content every subsequent edition.
>>97113432The Gitmob and HoH army boxes in particular are almost identical to their spearheads, which cost half as much. (HoH spearhead not yet released, obv) Not really a smoking good deal.
>>97113395Kek>>97113400Shitmob sure, but helsmiths seem to have done well enough
>>97113448Which is like why even make the boxes at that point? They don’t sell at all, and clearly he is trying to maximize profits while giving out the least content. Shit on old world all you want, but the weight of plastic in those boxes is greater than aos, and that’s really what everyone wants. To be fair though, rumor is that gw may lean into new models straight up being in new spearhead boxes, without the whole song and dance with the battletome etc.
how are sylvaneth treated in aos? I have been feeling pretty burnt out on tow with both warriors of chaos, and im not very happy with the state wood elves are currently. I think the revanants and ghost guys are cool but I'll admit the bugs are kinda lame.I kinda have mostly treemen and some dryads and eternal guard ( whom I am contemplating on returning), but with what i have, is it possible for me to play a test game with that in aos?
>>97113489What exactly do you have? You might be able to throw a list together but it might be pretty gimmicky.
>>97113502three treemen, the dryad hero, and 16 dryads.
>>97113510You could get more treemen for a full list of them (stormbringer has ancients for 13 bucks and the 2nd sprue for other shit for another 13)
>>97113510Mhm, find something to proxy as kurnothi hunters, use your dryads as tree revenants, and play a game or two of spearhead to see if you like how aos plays.But yes sylvaneth are treated well in aos I'd say. The bug stuff is limited to like 2 or 3 units, should be perfectly playable without any. Only long term issue is they're more reliant on their terrain than other factions.
>>97113400GW sold through their stock, regardless of the quantity being in excess of real consumer demand. Is that a flop?
>>97113489Sylvaneth are a competitive but non-meta army. They're not played often, probably because people hate spending money on faction terrain, but also because they have a lot of screening and movement shenanigans which probably take multiple games to get used to (this is guesswork, I don't play them). Here's a first place list from a small Portuguese tournament recently. Belthanos, First Thorn of Kurnoth (350)• GeneralGossamid Archers (120)Kurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Greatswords (420)• ReinforcedKurnoth Hunters with Kurnoth Scythes (380)• ReinforcedTree-Revenants (90)Regiment 1Warsong Revenant (200)• Ranu’s LamentiriRegiment 2Branchwych (110)• WarsingerRegiment 3Scourge of Ghyran Drycha Hamadreth (300)Just looking at this list, I think you could make do without bugs, but they sure do help. Looks like a couple MSU of revenants but this is the only winning list I could find on Woehammer in the month of November; I'm assuming that the general idea of elite focused lists using Kurnothi as a hammer is probably an effective build. That said, Belthanos might be necessary - he gives run and charge. If you wanted a more fortress style list, you could theoretically skip all the bugs, incorporate Treelords for their utility and durability, and use the Kurnothi Greatbows, while your teleport shenanigans secure objectives. Not sure how good this hypothetical list would be, but it likely has decent game if played similarly to other shooting lists.
>>97113660Oh, shit, totally forgot, obligatory YWNBAW, sylvaneth player. Im forgetting my fundamentals.
>>97112505Having seen the rules how it’s all worded as well is utter ass lawyerspeak
>>97112505I'm glad someone is saying it.You can maybe move once, attack twice, but movement is also random ... I hope you are within one or two.Toilet water looks like trash hope it bombs
>>97113820You can sprint by expending two energy at once but honestly given how every scenario is seemingly objective driven it's probably reductive
>>97113766This is incomprehensible gibberish
>>97113939Critical hits score two hits. You use this to negate a critical hit (both the successful hit and the additional hit it generates). You would have to read it more than once even knowing that, though. It's clearly never been playtested.
A spearhead centered around belakors stuff would be neat. The legionaries, furries, the centaur marshal/Eternus, maybe some varangaurd or something new to fit in that aor.
>>97113974Varans probably won't be in, but Legion + Centaurion is a given
>>97114029I like the centaur dudes but is there just the 1?
>>97114046There's 1 unit of 1 of it, but it's not a unique creature if that's what you mean
>>97114058Does it have alternate weapon options or builds? Maybe I'll get lucky and find one for 15-20ish bucks in my FLGS case.
>>97114166Honestly idk. Most Warcry monsters do, but that doesn't mean he does too
>>97114209He's a neat dude regardless I enjoy all the warcry monster guys. (despite having never played Warcry)
>>97114166>>97114209Centaurion does not have alternate build options. Neither does the Ogroid Myrmidon.
>>97114166No, it's monopose
>>97114241The Ogroid kinda does, I think you can have a slightly different rock in his hand and not give him the wicked sick slat eye thingy.>>97114243Monopose is only a restriction if you let it be!
>>97114248>The Ogroid kinda does,That's the Fomoroid.
>>97114252Oh shit you're right, also wait... Is the ogroid guy just the same exact size as the 3 box of ogroids or is he any bigger?
>>97114248That's the fomoroid dude. Funny you should say this, I was just checking out the guy on the gw website, only found out he has alternate options like 5 mins ago. What the fuck are fomoroids anyway? Are they just a warcry invention or whats going on with them?
>>97114259Same size. He kind of just looks like another Theridon.
>>97114270Seemingly just a warcry invention, they're just kind of another weird species that originally was good at building shit, Archaon made them go crazy and now they only break shit.
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>>97114426Thank you anon, very cool
I wish city ogres looked like this
>>97114565wrong setting
>>97114565Then do what that guy did and sculpt it yourself
>>97114270They're just a random chaos beast. More or less a chaos cyclops
>>97114568Ignoring Maneaters Ignoring ten years of landsknect Freeguilders
>>97114565This looks lame. Why the fuck would an ogre even use a shield? Iron fists are a thing
>>97114450You’re responding to a sexual degenerate who regularly posts homo shit because in his mind that’s somehow linked to DoK
>>97114591>Ignoring Maneaters>Ignoring ten years of landsknect Freeguilderswhich come from a different setting and aren't going to keep looking like that
Did anyone screenshot that one troll the other week cropping and renaming the filename of an old reddit post the pass off the models as his own (and immediately getting btfo)? Could've sworn it didn't happen that long ago but I can't find it in the archives.
rumours say silent ones have been shelved after darkwater flopped swifthawk agents may go to TOW instead of CoS too looking bleak
>>97114648>Just ignore ten years of the setting, that's not the real setting
>>97114651Yeah, heard that darkwater was enough of a flop to give gw pause about supporting aos long term. Apparently it was worse than skaventide, gitmob, and HoH combined according to internal data. Shit has well and truly hit the fan.
>>97114649
>>97114689what the fuck
>>97114651Shitposting aside aren't the skycutter and friends already in tow?>>97114689Lel that's the one, thanks anon
>>97114720>Shitposting aside aren't the skycutter and friends already in tow?There's an old Whitefang rumor where he suggested Swifthawk Agents were coming back to AoS, and a more recent one where he doubled down on it. I just assume he's talking about LRL stuff though
>>97114720Yeah, they're just missing the griffin because spire of dawn isn't available for whatever reason
>>97114657>that's not the real settingcorrect, pre alpha stages held together with leftovers don't matter
>>9711479310 years TENYEARS
>>971148264-5 years really
>>9711482610 YEARS OF IRRELEVANCY10 YEARS INTO THE TRASH
>>97114852>ignoring broken realmsin to the trash you go
I was hanging out /twg/ today while the preview was going on and it's kind of eye opening to see how much secondaries hate AoS. It's been a decade, you think'd they'd accept it to some point. Not what I saw. Unlike anything ive seen on /tg/ in terms of intensity too. I genuinely wonder what it is about AoS that acts as such a strong repellent to most people.
>>97114861literally their 2 minutes of hate
>>97114861I mean you literally can scroll slightly up in the thread and see when people were shitting it up. It's literally just a poisoned well because of grognards from a decade ago being mad GW did a stupid fucking choice and hating the thing because of the name.Also we don't have secondaries because there's barely any media for AOS that's meaningful to anyone who isn't in it already into it.
>>97114861>you think'd they'd accept it to some point.why?
>>97114861Defying all reason, logic, and common sense, the /v/ermin hate aos with an intensity not even seen in the groggiest of grognards. The only explanation I can come up with is that /v/ermin are simply spiteful creatures by nature, to be shunned by their betters.
>>97114887None of them know the slightest thing about AoS, just that they've been taught to hate it. It's pointless even caring about their opinions, since it's based on nothing but trying to fit in.
>>97114861they're just trying too hard to fit in despite not knowing literally anything about the actual hobby
>>97114887Anyone who goes to /v/ unironically is too far gone. Place is a shithole that's just /b/ and /pol/ runoff.
>>97114909This is more common than you'd think
>>97114918It's the same shit with 40k and it's the main cause why so much warhammer related stuff on /tg/ is so fucking awful
>>97114861And people wonder why AoS enjoyers come across as super defensive. It’s like raising a hand to an abused dog.But then those who get past the filter find a generally more chill community as long as you’re not a TOTAL sperg.
>>97114861Lmao I just checked that thread, someone posted the aos mortarch models and half the replies are just "huh that's pretty cool actually". Sidenote but damn it's been a while since I've been on a far board and whew, it's like 200 replies an hour. I know it's an announcement day, but still. Makes 40kg look slow (and civilized).
>>97114852>GA Order book>Seasons of War/Firestorm 2016 at most, so nine years
>>97114937vg threads harbor more people and generally keeps them in a padded room for better or worse. Dont uh, dont ever play an mmo and invest your time in that communities /vg/ thread. All I can say.
>>97110873I would buy the fuck out of TW:AOS. I would CONSUUUUUUME like you've never seen.
>>97114937That's the stupid thing, I realized how stupid I was for shitting on AOS for as long as I did because it's got some sick ass designs. Lore isn't exactly there yet but for the concept of just a wider open space with more room for creativity I think GW have done some good work with designs, characters (in theory), and artwork (when they actually put the work in).AOS is pretty fucking cool and it took me getting my head out of my ass and seeing it more as a continuation of Fantasy than just "THIS IS WHAT KILLED FANTASY?!"
>>97114937>makes 40kg look civilizedholy fuck I can't even begin to imagine how bad it must be
>>97114955GW scrapped WHF before AoS was created. It wasn't as though they scrapped WHF for AoS.
>>97114955This is a big part of the filter. Good on you, anon. I was previously an “Age of Shitmar”-er because I was being stupid and believed it was hogging possible release slots from my factions among the endless deluge of Marines. Now I prefer AoS.
>>97114970It’s like 2016 never ended from my short visits to /vg/ and /v/ from time to time.
>>97114970the average secondary is like your worst redditor 40k fan, but also as socially competent as an actual retard due to being a third worlder.
>>97114971No I know that now, I used to be the "Age of Smegmar" or "Sigmarines" (though that term still sticks because it's shorter than stormcast eternal) thankfully I moved past it and can enjoy the hobby now.>>97114973I wish I had more good books to read for it, I've got all this shit for Fantasy but dickall for AOS.NOW IF ANY ANONS HAPPENED TO HAVE ANY AUDIO BOOKS I COULD SKEEF I'D LOVE THAT.
>>97114955>Lore isn't exactly there yetAnd that’s exactly the issue I still have with it. Designs are cool, art is cool like you said when they put work into it. However gw’s ability to write lore, even if you think they’ve never been properly “good” at writing fiction, has gotten so much worse as the years have gone on. You dont have books like liber chaotica or imperial armor made for aos, you just have its usually sub par novels and battletomes that outline individual armies that may be good individually but sometimes fail when attempting to tie them to the other pre existing armies. Thag last point could’ve been solved though if the entirety of aos was the great patch from the beginning.
>>97115004the sigmarines thing is correct. stormcast were designed to be like space marines to try to catch that space marine money lightning in a bottle in a 2nd IP. doesnt make them bad, but it is a true thing about stormcasts design. they've evolved since then, but that is ultimately still the foundation of their army. it is possible to enjoy stormcast and also acknowledge that they are based on the space marine formula.
>>97115004Yeah, I just don't understand how that crowd can simultaneously cry about how rushed and underdeveloped AoS was as both a setting and a system AND act like WHF was buried to bring it about. AoS was so last minute the launch box features prototype material like the notorious Slaanesh replacement icon. Writers were scrambling to draft a setting for Stormcasts and Bloodhound, which is why you get shit like >yup the entire world had it's water turned to blood and everyone is a Khorne marauder but now the Stormcast have struck back, don't worry where they came from Sigmar just made them from souls they don't need a homeland or history! What a fucking mess. People bemoan points not coming for a whole year but shit basically nothing came for a year, it wasn't until July that year before the suggestion of cities potentially existing happened
>>97115023That's what bugs me, there's some good character moments in books but we're lacking a lot of the fluff and on the ground level moments. It feels very similar to a lot of Warcraft writing where they probably came up with a cool moment or character and then have someone write based around that. It's much less focused on the world building and weird niche shit that Fantasy had built up over the years alongside 40k because the properties were around for ages and had all this extra shit.I think if GW was willing to put AOS more out there and take some weirder risks invest a bit more into things it'd do wonders for the setting. While I have Bl*zzard on the mind, they made the chronicles books as a pseudo in universe history book to help set up specific timelines, lore, motivations, laws on the universe, something like one of these for each of the 4 quadrants of factions would be fantastic for just helping establish some fundamentals.>>97115079Wait, tell me more about this slaanesh icon replacement...
>>97115091I agree but it’s ironic you bring up the chronicles since modern blizzard has unfortunately de-canonized swathes of them.
>>97115091While general lore history books for aos is probably exactly what the setting needs, gw has given that up a long time ago because books don’t sell as well if they aren’t directly tied to miniatures(battletomes).And don’t mention C7 and the absolute slop they put out nowadays.
>>97115112No I know, but then they also re-canonized a bunch of it because they realized it was probably the best shot they had for having any sense of coherency with the shit show of a plot they have now. >>97115114I wouldn't necessarily say it's all bad, some of the Warhammer Fantasy RP books had some pretty good writing that was pretty close to a lore book. (some garbo here and there but the last I looked into I think was... Orkish clans and Lustria) But regardless glad you agree that having some more lore books would be nice, also a decent way of selling stuff to the masses.
>>97115079>simultaneously cry about how rushed and underdeveloped AoS was as both a setting and a system AND act like WHF was buried to bring it about.these aren't contradictory, anon.
>>97115125The issue is that gw nowadays puts 0 effort into making books like that. The best they do is reprint some of the old work they did(imperial guard handbook), but now they’re even stingy on doing that.
>>97115134WHICH SUCKS because it's a pretty good idea. If they had maybe done even 1 of those fucking books instead of those god awful kids books they released they could have made some actual money.
>>97115130WHF was scrapped prior to AoS existing as a concept. We know there were several attempts to alter the status quo of WHF, some of which were drastic. WHF was ended and THEN AoS was developed.
>>97115091This is kicking the hornet's nest because anons get really autistic about this topic, but there's a good bit of weird shit involving (the absence of) slaanesh during early 1st edition AoS. Slaanesh has no representation on archaeon's model, and the varanguard don't have dedicated slaanesh weapons (which they do have for the other 3 major gods). Keep in mind these were the only new chaos undivided models for a long while. Then there was apparently an imagine in one of those early compendium flyers or whatever for aos showing the star of chaos with the symbols of the 4 gods ...except slaanesh' was replaced by something very dark elf looking.The speculation at the time was that gw was looking to essentially squat slaanesh from the game, possibly replacing it with malerion. Around the same time 40k had their big soft-reboot with the ynnari taking center stage. Personally I think there's enough weird shit going on to infer that gw was planning to do *something* weird with slaanesh, but I think it was ultimately scrapped and the early aos stuff were just little aftershocks.I'm having trouble finding the image but I'm sure some other anon will post it.
>>97115091>slaanesh icon replacement...The booklet for the launch box features a chaos star with icons for the four chaos gods on it but Slaanesh's symbol is different. Similarly, the booklet mentions Steamhead Duardin, Red Slayers, and other odd prototype things that didn't make it to even the core book featured in the same box.
>>97115226Interesting... Well shit, I'm glad Slaanesh stuck around because if they didn't I wouldn't have this army I'm tradin' for AND MY MAIN GUYS GLUTOS AND SIGVALD!>>97115247Interesting... Really sounds like early AOS was flying by the seat of their pants.
>>97115225>WHF was scrapped prior to AoS existing as a conceptno, it wasn'tthe idea that gw decided to make a sequel only after choosing to end the setting is not just absolutely fucking retarded, it's simply explicitly wrong from any and all interviews on the matter
>>97115226NTA, but I agree with you and have perpetuated the Slaanesh Squat Plan theory myself, but Archaon DOES have Slaanesh representation on his model in the form of its crest on his shield. Minimal, but it’s there and I don’t want some sperg to catch you with an “umm akshually”. And the altered chaos god wheel is from the starter set booklet, image 4 in the link:https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/s/G92TKC9rqu
>>97115225Why would you make up such bold faced lies when there's so much interview material from people who worked in Nottingham at the time?
>>97115261That doesn’t even begin to describe it. Dave Gallagher was quoted on Instagram ,iirc, as saying that he had no idea what to draw for the background of his Fyreslayer art and just drew fucking whatever. I’m sure another anon can find the image with the quote.
>>97115284The people talking about how the end times was just one of several efforts to reboot or refresh the setting? The Tamurkhan pitch predated AoS obviously. WHF was doomed before AoS even reached it's limited vision which is what it launched with
>>97115091They used to do books like that like the Liber Chaotica and that but apparently there's a company mandate against "lore books", I can't remember why though.
Apparently there's blurry videos and images of the upcoming Dorfs, and or ogres/CoS stuff?Did anons save anything?I've been out of the loop since Helsmiths were announced.
>>97115337They're not very useful, mostly just random blobs and blurs with sentences explaining what they are.https://www.tga.community/blogs/entry/2483-rumours-update-18-november-2025
>>97115322>reboot or refresh the settingYeah, in the same way 8th edition rebooted 40k.Surely you can't be retarded enough to think that's comparable to literally ending the world, or so far into your mental gymnastics you think gw would axe the setting without having its successor in mind.
>>97115337No dorfs images iirc
>>97111251Sorry wazzock.If MESBG is an indication this is the YEAR OF THE RANGERS.
>>97115346Christ almighty, that's a pretty serious leakage.>>97115350Thank you both anons!
>>97115373It was pretty neat at first but I feel like the sheer scale and lack of quality kinda burned me out on it. Like NEAT if or when it happens but until then I'll wait for some more tangible info.
>>97111980Am I right to think that all of the higher quality scans are made by some anon who basically cut up his book to scan it?
>>97115348No, they've detailed the ways the Tamurkhan timeline would change the setting. You're just an idiot. We know AoS came from the idea of Fantasy Space Marines and simple rules and that's it. We know how haphazardly rushed it was. GW weren't cultivating AoS while WHF was performing well. >but one apocalypse and changing everything about every faction isn't the dark as an apocalypse changing everything about every faction
>>97115276Oh cool, never noticed that, makes the whole thing even weirder. Thanks for the link too, here's the page spread for anyone who can't be bothered, with the chaos circle thing centre-right.>>97115294Aos development is so weird because on the one hand everything was so clearly rushed in terms of art, tone, rules ...But on the other hand they shat out like 6 or 7 completely new armies in less than 3 years, including like three different stormcast waves. I mean idoneth and dok were released within a month of each other, imagine that nowadays. All these armies must've been in development for quite a while.Man I'd really like a book or documentary that dives into this period because it seems fascinating. An absolute clusterfuck.
>>97115379Yeah, I'm really latching onto the Whitefang comments here for some safety.The Dwarf faction does sound pretty neat though.
>>97115395>they've detailed the ways the Tamurkhan timeline would change the settingand it wasn't the scrapping of the world, game and setting>We know AoS came from the idea of Fantasy Space Marines which required the scrapping of the world, game and setting to be rebuilt around them>GW weren't cultivating AoS while WHF was performing wellno, the (poor and rushed) cultivation of aos came at the same exact time as the decision to scrap the world, game and setting
>>97115411The general gist is: cities getting the stuff it doesn't have (elite infantry, a named foot hero, possibly wizard units), Ogor refresh primarily themed around the melee unga bunga most likely dropping gunpowder units (for now), DoK will get SOMETHING, Whatever the fuck cogforts are basically being a new form of Mega-gargant for everyone to enjoy (I'm personally betting it's gonna basically just be transport and guns for factions who don't have these things), Warcry is going to be dropped in favor of making Spearhead the new thing (whether that entails sweeping changes to spearhead or how that's gonna pan out we have no fucking idea) which also will possibly involve a couple Eshin skaven revamps and named guy. There's lots of other random bullshit here and there but it's all over the place, possible tzeentch terrain, and other stuff I'm forgetting. I'm sure all of this is legit, just don't have the power to care unless it's close to release or we get some actual good pics.
>>97110950Thralls with 2 handThralls with dual wieldThralls with throwing spear (UW)Namarti Guard (UW)ReaversShark with netSharks with harpoonFeral sharksTurtleFeral turtleEels with shieldEels with spearAkhelian footsoldiers (UW)Akhelian footsoldiers alt. weaponCrabs (UW)Fish shoalsOctopus (UW)Kraken (Lore)And then add all their "creative freedom" units or other lore throwaways
>>97115276It's interesting they frame Grimnir's battle with Vulcatrix as though it's of his own volition. I always thought the explanation of Sigmar tasking him to do it as weird diffusion. >Everyone died to fell to Chaos kek
>>97114648>which come from a different settingThe entire draw of AoS was to my knowledge that everything and anything can exist, it is an INFINITE SETTING, the planes are infinite, and anything can fit inside them.the aesthetics are just that, they don't need to be tied to the empire. But is a very unique, striking and under-served aesthetic and personally it wouldn't. it's not a zero sum game that cities looks less like a Wayne Reynolds drawing.
>>97115511>to my knowledgeYour knowledge is wrong.
>>97115481Didn't the recent hashut fluff expand on this? He gave grimnir some gizmo that made him go full tardrage or something? Maybe I'm conflating things.
>>97115533That was before Sigmar found them.
>>97115531>wrongoh, well sorry, each mortal realm is LARGER, vastly, un-measurably so than the original planet but not INFINITE, it's just effectively infinite in all senses all senses and purposes of the word.
>umm actually cities of sigmar is a placeholder for the leftovers if you ignore firestorm they didn't get a book until 2nd edition RETVRN
>>97115567>picGw can you get your shit together and let azyr out of the cuckshed ffs
>>97115554still wrong. not even the same anon you were responding to.
>>97115554DEBUNKEDYou can fall off the realm's edge
>>97115554>in all senses and purposes of the word.except the purpose of having the old designs as something that's relevant
>>97115656AoS is so soulless nowadays. No webcomic, no herald
>>97115584I would not hate if we eventually got an expansion into space/azyr within a fantasy setting. I might just be biased because treasure planet was one of my fave movies as a kid
>>97114861>I genuinely wonder what it is about AoS that acts as such a strong repellent to most people.If you're actually willing to hear it, it's not difficult to explain. I am skeptical of anyone who asks that question, though, since the answers are fairly obvious if you're approaching in good faith.AoS is the most corporate, focus-grouped, globalized fantasy setting of all-time. Every element of it was cooked up a laboratory to try to maximize one profit-seeking factor or another. It had the edges sanded off well in advance, unlike the other GW IPs which may be perceived as defanged in 2025, but did not begin that way with deliberate intent. Beyond that, AoS lore has still never surmounted the original sin of the corporate origin's strategy to make it the biggest kitchen sink of all kitchen sinks -- it has never surmounted the criticism that it feels like a fart-based universe where anything can happen, nothing matters, and no mortal perspective can have a easy-to-identify-with foothold anywhere. Most people will not buy into million-year ages and elemental realms. It's very gay stuff. It's not grounded.>>97114931An abused dog has no agency in its position. AoS players selected that game/setting voluntarily. That is indelible proof that there was something wrong with them as aesthetes and/or mechanics-enjoyers. It's like meeting someone on the child molester watchlist... no matter who they are in Current Year, even being as charitable as possible, you know at one time they made the gravest, most disgusting "error" possible, even if they later overcome that part of themselves.
>>97115225You're never going to get this dogshit copeaganda to take, sister. In large part because people can turn to the other side of the store and see how 40K "status quo changes" are completely dissimilar to literally ending a setting (and in fact made 40K twice as popular, or more).
>>97115831Too long didn’t read
>>97115831should've went with a food metaphor instead for that second paragraph tbdesu
>>97115863>>97115858He's 1, 2 posts max, from busting out "Blackrock" and "DEI".
>>97115863Yeah it would have worked better if he compared AoS enjoyers to a guy that you know that once told you he ate shit. No matter what he says or does in your mind he's always going to be the shit eater.
>>97115667>except ini have no idea what you're trying to argue here.honestly it just sounds like you don't like the aesthetic personally and you don't have a strong point.>>97115633I feel like this is either a problem of framing.The AOS world is 8 planes (and some other demiplanes and pocket dimensions,etc) of massive scale that isn't to my knowledge fully mapped out but are larger than the old world.it is not constrained by the same rules as the old world nor the known geography, you have tremendous amounts of space to put whatever you feel like in the setting, and because it's not constrained by old worlds systems you can be as creative as you want. anything you could imagine can exist in AoS setting. would you agree with these premises?Effectively you can be as creative as you want with this setting and more so than the old world. would you not agree.in that sense it is infinite, it is literally finite in the same way 40k is, there is a limited to the amount of planets there are in the galaxy. but there is enough empty space throughout that you can do whatever you want or conjure whatever you feel like.
>>97115876imagine coming to shit up a thread about a game you don't even play and having the audacity to act high and mighty lmao
>>97115880I literally just chimed in to comment on the other guy commenting on the other guy. I'm not starting anything I am contributing to an ongoing discussion.
>>97115831wow aos sure lives rent free in your head huh
>>97114861I don't think secondaries are at all aware of AoS. None of those people give a shit about TOW, so of course they don't know or care about AoS. >>97115831>People will not buy into high fantasy, that's why it's the second most popular wargamecope. You old world grogs are so pathetic
>>97115831what do you play anon?
>>97115883>starting a flamewar is discussion!kys
>>97115891>why it's the second most popular wargameNTA but for now sure. Because there was no other GW alternative. Now that Fantasy is back, and it seems like GW is actually going to give it full new ranges and not just ancient nostalgia bait, AoS will continue to lose ground to the more storied and prestigious IP. When Cathay was revealed, it was essentially signing the death warrant of AoS with a date that is too far out to see right now.
>>97115656>>97115670I remember starting to read some web novel about "what if the attempted moon landing hit the ceiling that the moon was painted onto and proved the disc theory instead" where everyone has to go one with their normal every day lives knowing the universe is actually incredibly tiny and we are at the center of it, which is somehow more terrifying than the idea that we're a speck in the infinite nothing.
>>97115891>>People will not buy into high fantasy, that's why it's the second most popular wargameIt's a GW game anon.also, i don't think it's the setting that's selling it to people.>>97115899>someone asked question>anon answered>FLAME WAR, THIS ANON'S TRYING TO START A FIGHTyou faggots, it's been 10 fucking years get the fuck over yourselves.
>>97115904>signing a death warrantthat's why TOW is exploding in popularity with tons of tournament play compared to AoS right? >b-b-b-ut it'll happen eventually!AoS killed fantasy, not the other way around. Truly pathetic cope.
>>97115904I'm sure if you keep repeating this cope every day maybe in 5 years tow playerbase will get to half of what aos has right now.
>>97115914Uh yeah dude, TOW is totally floundering and AoS is thriving LMAO
Wait, which Warhammer lets me be a rat catcher as a class.
>>97115923Fantasy
>>97115920yup, and every possible metric that could be applied from sales, to player numbers, tournament entries, secondary video content, etc all prove that. You are screaming into the void wishing fantasy was the big game, but it's not
>>97115879>i have no ideaIt shows
>>97115920you don't own any miniatures from either game so what do you care lmao
>>97115918Popularity only really indicates number of people.people eat mcdonalds a lot, a lot a lot, millions. is it good? no, is it popular yes.>AoS killed fantasyThat was GW management.like are you guys going to dab on us MESBG players because we have a smaller audience? AoS is like 40k, it allows a lot of creativity and it has some very talented converters and painters but it's not like some perfect game anon. >>97115923WFRPG 2e i think. maybe 3e
>>97115927I know it's hard to accept reality anon. Denial is a normal part of loss. You will get over it. Sending good vibes your way <3
>>97115891lmao you don't get to paper over it with "high fantasy" to excuse its flaws. It's the second most popular wargame because it's Games Workshop's second most popular wargame. Warhammer Fantasy Battles was also the second most popular wargame, retard!
>>97115930>it showsmake a better argument then.Otherwise I'm filing you under cringe and retarded.
>>97115938Kek I think you're arguing with a kid because he walked right into that one
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I think this is a good time to ask some soft questions>why do you play?>what do you play?>what are you working on?>can you post some minis?AoS isn't like fucking heresy you guys shouldn't be this fucking buckbroken.
>>97116012>AoS isn't like fucking heresy you guys shouldn't be this fucking buckbroken.Qrd?
>>97116019heresy 3e came out and there was a chimp out. and no matter how bad you guys are, you should see the TC general. fucker only moves because someone's shitposting.
>>97116012>why do you play?Because it's fun>what do you play?DoK and Gitz>what are you working on?Necromunda >can you post some minis?Perhaps
>>97116069>Gitz>necromundaelite choices anon.
>>97116012>Why do you playI like seeing my painted guys running around the table punching stuff>what do you playMixed gsg>what are you working onDeath rattle heavy sbgl>can you post some minisSure
>>97116012I'm in this thread all the time, god help me.BUT I enjoy playing because I originally needed a reason to justify buying more minis to hobby on but then found myself enjoying some longer battles. (Even if my local community doesn't really have much middle ground, you're either on my level as a complete scrub or you're a tournament person with a list you've had for 5+ years REFINED to a sharp point)I play pretty exclusively AOS with some Underworlds when I can convince anyone into that temptation. (Underworlds 1st edition is actually really cool please god let more people play it)I am currently working on my Keeper of Secrets because I am trading my OBR force for some slaanesh stuff alongside a few trades and a solid Ebay lot I picked up on the cheap.I'll post a big chunk of the stuff I've worked on since last November when I started. (This has been a bad year for my wallet but hobby projects and trading have gotten me some wicked sick stuff to play with!) I'd show my Glotkin but the resin pour failed horribly for his base and I've been too afraid to go back for round 2.
>>97116088Kino shit.>>97116081Sweet conversion. did you use the whole isen troll's body or did you like use the legs as a base and build up from it?
>>97116012>why do you play?It's fun. I like the setting, minis, and overall gameplay. There's still work to be done, but it's good.>what do you play?IDK. Soon LRL, too.>what are you working on?Pic related.>can you post some minis?Pic related.
>>97116112Just the legs and arms. Head is a shaved down carnosaur but the rest is greenstuff outside the log and spider on his back
>hundreds of thousands of new people get into the Fantasy IP in one dayBros...I don't feel so good
>he's STILL tryingfucking lmao
>ididitagain
>>97116140Oh he jumped over to heresy to try and get people to brigade.>>97116146post minis or leave.
>>97116137>>>/v/
>>97116149I think you've mistaken me for someone defending the /v/fag. >post minisI have but sure
>>97116170nice.at this point you gotta post the rest of your trolls.
>>97116137That's not good, especially when you compare it to our highest budget vidya.
>>97116201>oursyou dont own any miniatures
>>97116232*taps sign*
>>97116240*everyone who buys minisso where are yours?
>>97116246*you're a faggotsee anyone can add to the statement like that
>>97116240trying too hard lmao
>>97116258must be hard being such a fucking failure devoid of anything interesting to do in your time that you come to shitpost in a thread about a hobby you dont even engage in
>>97116277Must be hard to shit fling instead of engaging in good faith dialogue
>>97116258>>97116291okay but, i don't see any minis
>>97116232I've probably loved, used, and then sold more miniatures than you've ever owned for your "main faction."
>>97116306Then it'd be easy for you to post them.
>>97116306are you gonna post a renamed reddit image again, big guy?
>>97116185Oh that guys only about the size of an ork. He's just a bonesplittaz savage boy with some fanatic bits and a touch of gs for his hat and cape>rest of your trollsI do have a one more unit of trolls but they're pretty standard big blue retards built normally.
>>97116201>there are infinitely more people playing Warhammer 3It's over...Fantasy won...
>>97116310>>97116320I'm not going to post shit -- modelbeggars are bad faith cretins who just want you to waste your time so they can say "doesn't matter lol" (and then try to dox you on top). Reverse image search your sister's OF creampies instead of my models, you little virgin twerp.
>>97116326I like your turtle dude and especially the spider. Very well done paint job. >>97116710> Reverse image search your sister's OF creampies instead of my models, you little virgin twerpthey're calling it the most indian post of all time.>>97116088>kim in the cornergood taste, good minis
>97116710>modelbeggarsis this your new fake slur for someone calling you out on your bullshit.you don't play games.you're just here to post dogshit.>doxxed>HELP SOMEONE THE HACKER KNOWN AS 4CHAN HAS MY MET-A-DATA AND HE'S TRIANGULATED MY POSITION FROM MY MINISnigger what?this is fucking funny as hell.not even gonna give you a (you), this is pathetic.
>>97116088are you more of a fuck the world type of guy or pissfaggot?
>>97116763>>97116798been waiting for someone to catch that on my wall lel.But to answer the question: Pissfaggot.
>>97116764>is this your new fake slur for someone calling you out on your bullshit.>you don't play games.>you're just here to post dogshit.I have more lbs in models than you weigh, and you're overweight and soggy with estrogen. I play more different games then you -- you "started" AoS (lol!) in the last few years but you have one or two kits, if that.What would you do if I posted my shelves of Really Useful Boxes full of miniatures? Would you say sorry? No, you would either never reply or say they're fake pics or [other cowardly loser reaction].You post models, faggot. I asked first.
>>97116710>twerpGo back to 40kg decalfag
>>97110873>Total War: Age of Sigmar or 40k?Neither. Total War games need a good map, and AoS and 40k both have massive disconjoined maps. If you attempted an AoS or 40k TW game it's either be utterly underwhelming or unplayably bloated.
Holy fuck, there are still some people here who think there will be a aos total war games. After dark water fucking flopped, HoH flopped, gitmob flopped, and skaventide flopped. CA would rather make goddamn total war:necromunda than a aos game
>>97116012>why do you play? Because everything about playing a physical game feels good. Moving minis feels good. Having to go somewhere and meet up with people feels good. Finding cool stuff to break up and use for bases, or coming up with hobby ideas feels good. Sometimes I stop for a long time because the barrier to doing these things is higher than doing easier fun. >>what do you play? Used to play 1 to 1.5k games with nurgle and Living City in 2nd edition, now building gits>what are you working on?Assembling gits>can you post some minis?Picrel, will have some new stuff next week to post
>>97112858>>97112858The Nurgle tome trailer was fucking Kino and cemented my love for maggotkin. Idk why the coward running the WH youtube channel unlisted the video but thankfully I still got a link to it. I hope they come to TWW.>>97114426is this h3h3's israeli wife?>>97116012>whyI like seeing my models on a table in action>whatNurgle I guess but most of those points are pretty elite. Got a lot of gitz too but no cohesive army>what are you working onA skullcrusher to finish up my khorne spearheadhere's a recent model
I stopped posting for like 3 days and the thread went to shit. What gives?
>>97117479Fantasy fags
>>97117479The nation of Poland has launched a renewed media offensive against AoS
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>>97117604you're not fantasy fags thoughbeit, just tww secondaries lmao
>>97117604>When we're not trolling you and farming bitter posts back from you cucks the thread dies.I thought this was the only thing keep /wfg/ alive
>>97117311Holy shit anon this is insane work, please post more.>>97117479Secondaries buckbroken by aos existing, same as it ever was.
>>97117376Suddenly the pic becomes pertinent to the thread.
>97117604This has to be a false flag or something, no way someone is earnestly this pathetic
>>97117636Here's something I had lying around and never finished. I had some Stormcast I was working on but I ended up putting them in storage. I have a picture or two of some liberators(fat)
>>97117711Wonderful stuff anon. Do you happen to remember what paints you used for the 'black' armour on the blight king? The scheme is amazing.
>>97117711Found some stuff that was in storage, not in the best shape though. Are sisters of alaroslle/shadow warriors even still in the cos book?
>>97117721It was kind of a pain in the butt because I never actually bought a dark enough blue. So it's a basecoat of a mix of vallejo black and vallejo flat blue, then midtone of vallejo black and vallejo sky blue (for a desaturated color), then a highlight of vallejo sky blue into very highlight of mixed sky blue and white ink, and then I think I went back and glazed either flat blue or sky blue. This is probably the least efficient way to do this scheme since every single time I have to try to mix and color match the appropriate tones.
Last pic but yeah just taking inventory I could have been a little more careful putting these in storage. Lot of broken weapons and missing heads.
>>97117755Seeing the paint scheme on the right stormcast and how good he looks just shows that the biggest issue was painting them all gold and not the proportions.
>>97117776Help me pick my gits scheme. For my CoS army, I started by picking a complementary color pair (blue and orange) and then tried to fit an army to the color scheme. I don't have any major inspiration for gits the way I had a vision for the ogre, nurgle, and Stormcast minis Ive done so far. I like the minis and they look good, but I don't have any idea what I'm looking for.
>>97116012I don't play unfortunately, closest LGS is like 150km away and all my friends are normies. I really like painting the minis though.
>>97117787>Help me pick my gits schemeBlack robes with purple.Alternatively look at some mushrooms for inspiration.
>new stormcast helmets look somehow worse than fatcast ones Pic related, knight questor and prosecutors are the only good minis they ever released that were not ruined by their helmet.
>>97117743Thanks anon, I appreciate it. The scheme is very striking.>>97117776Even the hallowed knights paintjob they're going with now is a lot better, even though it's also pretty one tone. I think gold is just a terrible choice to have your entire army clad in. Maybe for individual characters it can work but for the whole faction it looks off. I feel the same way about just a whole lot of blue being the standard space marine colour.
>>97117852Custodes are generally a popular army and while people complain about them for gameplay reasons I don't often hear anyone say they objectively look bad just because they're gold-heavy. There's more to the story than just gold not being appealing across the army. Otherwise, more people would complain about the aesthetics of custodes, whereas Stormcast provoke a lot more criticism than their 40k equivalent does
>>97117870custodes are baroquefatcasts were cartoonythat contributed a lot, whining about the colour scheme comes from smoothbrains unable to articulate their gut feelings
>>97117870>Custodes are generally a popular armyThey are only popular because their rules are busted, nobody outside of waacfags cares about them and pretty much agree that they should have stayed either in HH or entirely in the fluff.People dont like stormcast because they get pushed like marines despite not having the same mass appeal >>97117874>custodes are baroque>fatcasts were cartoonyCustodes look like shit especially the helmet.
>>97117870I personally don't like custodes all that much for the exact same reason haha though I see your point. I'll also day that red is a much better accent colour than blue for gold.
>>97117874Be nice, anon. Easier to have a conversation that way.
>>97117883>They are only popular because their rules are bustedand because you get an army after painting just a dozen models, which was a big draw for other popular armies
getting to the bottom of page 8>>97117900 >>97117900
>>97117883I mean, the most famous custodes fan is someone who probably will never sign up for a Warhammer tournament ever in his life. I'm not saying being strong doesn't make them popular or whatever, but clearly people DO like the fantasy or aesthetic, even if it's just so you can play the mary sue squared (or is it cubed?) faction. They're like Seraphon or Lumineth, they draw players looking to meta game tournaments but they also draw players who like dinos or elves. >>97117888I mean, hey, I can't fault your consistency. Red is probably a better color than blue but I don't even know what it is that makes SCE so much less palatable for most.
>>97112627Correct they are not auxiliaries, they are their own regiment that you deploy. >>97112636Only the Dankholds have the monster keyword
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