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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Help! MaRo needs you to design a 6th color for mtg so they can print more chase cards. What color is it? What does it do?
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>>97111116
I wish cards like these were playable
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>NOOOO strategy that you find fun is ACTUALLY UNFUN
nice gaslighting. discard on bracket 4 when?
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>>97111129
repeated edicts are apparently not appropriate either
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>>97111137
what? you got a quote or something?
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>>97111142
no just people bitching about it
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>>97111144
oh whew, my bracket 2 vren edict pile is safe to keep raping
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>>97111116
Why does this game art is so bland and generic? This one of the worst fantasy art styles, even I slop has more soul. The gameplay must be so good to ignore these inuspired atrocities.
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>>97111129
>nice gaslighting. discard on bracket 4 when?
it wouldn't surprise the slightest. they should just move all the 'undesirable' cards into a single bracket, including game changers and various mechanics they hate, and be done with it. then you can go with
>bracket 1: precons and memes
>bracket 2: optimized without undesirable cards/strategies (maybe one on-theme game changer)
>bracket 3: everything goes
there. problem solved. now everyone knows where he belongs.
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>>97111149
because fantasy is the most bland and generic fiction around
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>>97111137
repeated edicts as in casting 2-3 different edicts in a row, or setting up an edict engine?
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>>97111166
wrong
what you are talking about is modern corporate fantasy, which is populated by woke retards who have not the slightest idea of edge or style.
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>>97111174
No I was specifically thinking of old shit like this
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>>97111175
ah, then you have no idea what you are talking about, thanks for clarifying
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>>97111160
this is pretty much how I think of it already
1 doesn't really exist
2 is weenie hut junior
3 and 4 are essentially the same because people who say 3 are just trying to be as close to 4 as possible so the powergap is minuscule compared to 2 and 3
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>>97111116
>Help! MaRo needs you to design a 6th color for mtg so they can print more chase cards. What color is it? What does it do?
Purple. The basic lands for it are moons. It does space shit and specializes at interacting on the stack and warp.
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>>97111178
Ok bait poster
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>>97111206
ok retard
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>>97111199
what a terrible idea, perfect for wotc!
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>someone tricks me into playing prototype bladegryff
>spend 5 mana on the piece of shit
>it gets removed
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>>97111263
LEEL serves you right for not playing instant value KOS creature
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Teysa, Orzhov Hooker
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>>97111168
both
I play braids + edicts people bitch
I play squall + edicts people bitch
I play abdel + edicts people bitch
apparently it just really hurts peoples feelings when you don't let the board get out of control
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>>97111354
You know normally people don't self-report this readily but I guess black mana makes you retarded.
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>>97111303
What's the deal?
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>>97111354
>when you don't let the board get out of control
>t. man who freaks out when more than 3 creatures are in other people's control.
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>>97111435
You don't understand. Tracking the gamestate is really hard and I get scared if my opponents control permanents or have cards in their hand.
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>>97111129
Do YOU find it fun to sit there unable to play the game?
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>>97111437
Opponents should not be able to have permanents or cards, correct.
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>>97111354
>>97111395
no idea what you guys are talking about, but since I built a mono black edicts/reanimator/lifeloss deck I can understand the pain somehow. you are essentially hard-countering every single timmy deck. especially with how many edicts for saccing the most powerful creature exist currently.
and no, running your one silver bullet against it is useless, because I always have it, and you don't.
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>>97111435
I once use feed the swarm on an opponent's mana dork and then reanimated it. I told everyone I need the ramp, but in reality, I just did it because I could.
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>>97111447
ok gaylord
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>>97111447
timmies shouldn't exist
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>>97111455
say that to the timmies and see what happens
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>>97111456
oh no, you'll spend 5 turns ramping and then maybe hit me. oh the humanity.
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>>97111456
he'll just quiet quit "this isn't fun" as he reads his phone instead of untapping and drawing
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>>97111458
>5 turns ramping
that's just the warmup, your life is over in 5 more turns
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>>97111454
why is his leg to the side like that, it looks like he's been living with midget leg. He's not high enough to justify him dropping down in the air so this whole angle is messed up. oh god and now i notice the left hand...
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>>97111454
he cute
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>>97111472
Foreshortening in art is hard, anon you must understand small company
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I really like the art for this Baleful Strix. And the flavor text is interesting. Was this at all actually related to what was going on in Bloomburrow? It sounds like an omen of things to come but I don't remember seeing any other cards that remotely touch on what it's possibly setting up in the set.
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Is this card fun?
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I want to build a deck that has a very different play experience than tribal and aristocrat, but I'm having trouble finding a commander I like the look of.
I want the art to really show off the character unconstrained by a small box, like pic rel.
Preferably a waifu, yes.
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>>97111541
It's probably just being lazily meta about the reprint.
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>>97111612
Hell yeah
>spend big mana
>get big flashy creature with a big flashy effect
Just keep her safe during other peoples' turns and she'll keep herself safe with hexproof during your turn, and earthbend them all away. I wouldn't run her as a commander though, if that's what you were asking.
The first time I cast her in a game she made a secret tunnel (unblockable land) into a 12/12 which had double strike, trample, and basically vigilance due to Toph, Greatest Earthbender, some enchantment, and Raggadragga
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>>97111612
Over costed and under stated
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>>97111612
It's fun with Inkmoth nexus.
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>>97111398
Service to the Orzhov in exchange for paizuri until death. The service doesn't end when you die.
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Rocco bros, what are we fetching?
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>>97111792
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>>97111806
I think Island and Swamp are only applicable to the fishing village area (maybe that's island and the sewer areas are Swamp?)
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>>97111792
sumthin' smellin' GUD in 'ere
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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how do you guys even start building a deck?
I'm thinking of building a new one but it's too overwhelming
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>>97111867
>figure out which commander I wanna play
>figure out what my strategy / "thing" is
>start looking for cards that allign with that thing in the right colours
Simple as, really. The truly hard part is cutting cards at the end, and balancing the amount of lands, goodstuff et.c.
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>>97111867
I usually either see some fucky effect I want to abuse or try to fuck over some new mechanic everyone is abusing
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>>97111847
I see what you mean and have considered just that, but I think It'd be weird to have the most basic of plays represented by a late game area. Especially early in a match. I guess with picrel it's fine since it's how the entire story started.
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>shooting a gun at someone is a crime
>dropping a nuke on several people is not a crime
mtg provides a realistic simulation of life in the military industrial complex
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>>97111913
it's definitely more weird to try to shoehorn something into a place where it doesn't belong.
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>>97111939
Exactly, the latter is only a crime if you lose
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comic back to this comic, I realized that this is about the average game of commander
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>>97112002
*coming back
should go to sleep
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>>97112002
How many rat based commanders do you go against for this to be average?
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>>97112002
beamtown bullies.deck
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>>97112023
it's not about the rats, it's about players building retarded board states and suffering the equivalent of cock and balls torture because of it
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I saw Teysa Karlov at a grocery store in Ravnica yesterday. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask her for photos or anything. She said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in her hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Ma'am, you need to pay for those first.” When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, she stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any Phyrexian infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me.
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and then everybody clapped
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>>97112106
it's been years since I saw this copypasta
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>>97111612
>During your turn it has hexproof
Why make a card bad on purpose?
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why would you ever not play ragavan in a red deck
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>>97112249
Are you confusing hexproof with shroud?
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>>97112259
I mean it's 8 fcking mana already wich is huge. Why not give it perma hexproof. In top of that it's a mythic from a shitty set that no one wants to buy.
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>>97112249
It's a 6/6 plus an 8/8 for 8 mana in green and it untaps Gaea's Cradle
Not every 8 drop has to be Craterhoof.
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what's the commander you have the most fun playing with?
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>>97112283
>it's too good because it untaps my 1k dolarydoos land
Dude....
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>>97112288
Whenever I get to do "my thing" I am pleased with the game, but some commanders' "thing" is too strong for the pod to allow, so it's just instaremoved (if they suspect I will do the "thing")
My funniest or most enjoyable commanders have been Goreclaw, Howler, Koma (no, the other one), and Toph, since they're quite resistant to removal or being targeted too hard.
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>>97112293
If you're playing a green deck and not playing gaea's cradle, you're automatically a bracket 1 deck.
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This card is pretty freaky
I keep thinking the ravens are tentacles
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Anyone else getting a chocobo bundle? My LGS is about to sell them and I'm about to get ready for when they open in an hour
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Why isn’t this used more?
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>>97112334
>pay 8 in 2 turns or 7 in one turn to gain a 4-cost enchantment that dies to creature removal
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>>97112334
Why not indeed?
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>>97112342
>>97112349
But you draw based on damage dealt, not just a single card.
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>>97112288
Minthara honestly, I like how it plays.
Bouncing things and going into combat with huge creatures or making her unblockable has been fun.
Avatar gave me access to some ridiculous upgrades for it but I have not picked them up yet.
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>>97112334
For 4 mana you can get one of several cards that draw a single card per creature. The upside of drawing per damage feels pretty winmore when paired with the downside of only getting this turn to do it.
Theres a fairly narrow band where its worth it, 80% of the time youd rather have a piracy effect that will stick around for the next turn
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>>97112369
I am retarded for not recognising that, but at the same time I don't think it's as viable regardless, unless you're running something that can get through easily, whether that be trample, straightup unblockability or flying
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>>97112334
Just came out
Many people are having a hard time keeping up with product
>tfw they finally recaptured the feeling of old magic by flooding the game with so many cards that even with the internet its hard to remember every single casual playable card
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>>97111129
Funnily enough sundering titan doesnt even pass gavin's own criteria of MLD, it needs multiple cards to continously destroy lands and at that point you might as well go infinite
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Jump start was the worse shit ever invented. Who thought about this garbage holy fuck.
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>>97112408
>>97112383
I can see that, it’s probably better for big creature simic. I just get confused why people play the sphinx so much on the other hand when it’s usually a draw 1 for two. Maybe it’s because of standard.
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>>97112283
>Not every 8 drop has to be Craterhoof
Dude...
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>>97112432
correct, wotc is guilty of this for ages. that still doesn't mean you should use a picture of a city for an island proxy. you wouldn't jump off a bridge if wotc did it, no?
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>>97112334
it's win more
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>>97112435
wotc is generally bad when it comes to preconstructed product. 99% of their out-of-the-box stuff is near unplayable dogshit.
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>>97112525
>why are precons bad
Because precons arent supposed to be strong
they're supposed to "inspire" people to buy more cards to refocus these hodgepodge decks that go in multiple directions and optimize them, if they sell well to casuals they've done their job
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>rank 1740 on EDH
is it because her ideal gameplan is boring omniscience slop?
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Anyone have a fun deck for casual EDH?
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>>97112554
>fun
>casual
just go for a voltron or tribal of your chosing. the less complicated effects, triggers and abilities the better, but if they're unique they can make it funnier too.
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>>97112552
No her ideal plan is to enter the infinite eot and then omniscience ftw
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>>97112548
other, more successful TCGs, sell actually good precons. wotc precons are not selling because they are shit, bit in spite of it, because a lot of people don't know better.
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>>97112573
>other, more successful TCGs
Lol
We all hate wotc here but let's not be too delusional
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>>97112458
The sphinx is a house in modern because of scam decks, in edh its a fine card but its pretty interchangeable unless youre playing something that really wants one of the pieces of that particular card; casting from exile, playing with no hand etc
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>>97112512
I'll take your point into consideration. If you have a nice artpiece to use for the basic islands thant meets the criteria (and wasn't used in a previous card) I am willing to make a card of it.
Also, nice to see WotC is in such low regard proxies are expected to be better than the official product. I am not joking. This is nice to see.
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>>97112573
>other, more successful TCGs,
What TCG is more successful than magic, besides pokemon?
Yugioh? I wouldn't tall that more successful.
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>>97112593
You can also mod games to be better than the official release nowadays, wotc being bad or good has really nothing to do with it
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>>97112573
Hearthhull and the FF precons are good though
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>>97112601
>pokemon
Those are collectibles akin to sports cards, not a TCG
Nobody plays that game lol
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Any good resources for finding a new commander after being out of the game for several years? Last time I paid actual attention to the game was, like, War of the Spark. I'm sure there have been hundreds of new legends to dick around with since.
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>>97112625
Sir this isnt google this is a mongolian basket weaving forum
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>>97112625
https://scryfall.com/sets

Find the set you left off on and open each one after that. Add "is:commander" and "game:paper" into the search bar along with the set code to find only cards that can be commanders and filter out online-only ones.

Certain non-creature artifacts can be commanders now if they have the "Vehicle" or "Spacecraft" subtypes
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>>97112610
>nowadays
fanpatches to fix games go back to the 90s at least
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>>97112625
>Pick a color or combination of colors
>"good commanders for X internet machine!"
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>>97112421
Without any help it throws away 10 lands at a sufficiently color rich table. Yeah I suppose 10 is not 12, but Ephemerate it once and it can trash twenty. Rebound that Ephemerate and it's pushing 30 lands of your choice off the table for 9 mana if you're stupid enough to hard cast it. It's won't even be symmetrical in most cases, if you can find targets you keep your shit.

I mean fuck, Flash the dude in for 1U and wipe out everyone else's lands T1. It specifically hates basic types too, so it punishes players trying to not run such a fucktarded greedy manabase.
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>>97112690
Gavin's definition of MLD is "regularly" destroying 4+ lands per player without replacement
Sundering titan doesnt meet this description
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>>97112719
10 isn't larger than 4?
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>>97112728
4+ per player
That's 16+ lands total you retard
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what IS a good internet commander?
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>>97112738
12 or more you fucking retard. Counting yourself goes beyond pedantry into actually fucking brain-damaged.

Lets not pretend 10 lands for whatever you cheat him out for is a reasonable rate. If he sticks around he's a 7/10 fatty too.

Lets see, it's an ETB and leaves trigger which makes it fucking obnoxious to try and keep from going off, what did I miss?
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>>97112773
>Counting yourself goes beyond pedantry into actually fucking brain-damaged.
Go cry at gavin then he's the one who came up with his definition and i'm definitely not the one stupid enough to hate brackets while not even reading the first goddamned article about it
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>>97112719
>>97112787
>ermmm but daddy wotc said
>ignoring what wotc also said
>cant think for himself
Are you a man or a woman anon.
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>>97112787
Who the fuck cares about Gavin? For someone who hates the guy you sure wanna make sure you've got his dick in your mouth properly.
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>>97112805
Feel free to play with infinite mana turn 0 then because following the comprehensive rules is clearly kneeling to wotc lol
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>>97112552
I think it's a really cool card with beautiful art. But... Yeah I mean what are you going to do with this besides omniscience? Mono blue lacks in a lot of options and her ability only works on non creatures.... It just doesn't seem very fun to me. I feel like there's probably an interesting build where you cheat out big artifacts or something but again being limited to non creatures is really rough
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>>97112806
>say something stupid
>get proven wrong
>aaaaiiiiieeeeee corpo dicksucker
Concession accepted
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>>97112810
This post reveals how stupid you really are anon.
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>>97112618
A ton of people play. But it's true that more people collect than play
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>>97112825
>proven wrong
>appeals to wotc
>doesnt understand that appeal gives them authority and if they say sundering titan is mld it is
Completely illogical retard arguing just to argue
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>>97112826
By all means keep doing rule zero and having unlimited mulligans just be aware nobody will take you seriously haha
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>>97111541
Would make for a good playmat
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>>97112840
>nooo you cant use the owners of the game as appeals to authority to convince randoms on what terms of engagement to play in in a game of edh
>you should listen to my fiats instead, a random anon from /tg/
Kekw
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>>97112840
It's not even that. It doesn't have to be MLD as they've defined it to be banned. It can be extremely oppressive early land hate that can go in any color, be cheated in as an artifact, be cheated in as a creature and if all else fails it's still a huge fucking fatty. Removing it doesn't work because showing up and leaving is literally how it does its job.

I actually cannot imagine being so mindbroken as to be unable to evaluate a problem card absent official corporate 'explain it to me like i'm five' articles and then interpreting said article like it's a legal document because the retard that is getting everything wrong is also somehow the fucking high pontiff of commander and cannot be wrong.
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>>97112835
A ton of Pokemon players is like 3 players
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>>97112554
not really. commander isn't casual anymore when people are running these newfangled wincons and FIRE design
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>>97111635
I run Kambal and run it with stax/pain effects as im gaining life to eventually use the life as a resource. Its nothing fancy, but its definitely not a turn creatures sideways deck. It was full of " I win effects but felt like a asshole winning a ending a great game out of nowhere
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>>97112877
>It doesn't have to be MLD as they've defined it to be banned
And yet the only reason sundering is banned is because it's thought of as MLD lol
And you dont have to be this frothing at the mouth, gavin himself considers unbanning it "i'd say this one is possible, but it's an uphill battle", not saying sundering titan will be unbanned anytime soon but if it is unbanned dont say you werent warned about it and try not to throw a pity party in your weenie hut jrs pod lmao
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>>97111867
Tell us a few commanders you think would be fun to play, or interesting mechanics you like
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>>97112554
Isshin samurai tribal is cheap, casual and fun.
You can make some big bombastic attacks too that aren't too overpowered. So it's fun to play and not too brutal for the other players.
I really enjoy playing that deck and recommend it.
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>>97112883
There's way more than that and you know it
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>>97112909
Yeah it's more like 300 active competitive players in the entire united states
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Why is she only cast from hand? Why doesn’t she include merfolk?
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>>97112909
It was a joke about how fat they are sorry I tried to be funny
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>>97112920
Because then you could do things with cheating shit into play.
Because Kiora doesn't give two fucks about merfolk, she likes big sea creatures
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>>97112288
Purphorus Bronze blooded. Setting up the battlefield before you start to get maximum effect from his ability.
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>>97112941
She could at least include whales
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>>97112920
>if my commander has a subtype from a tribe, it must then be a tribal commander!
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Are any of these boxes worth buying?
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>>97112957
Not really imo. I guess the new Garland is pretty neat.
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>>97112927
Oh sorry I understand now
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>>97112956
Find me one other commander that does this
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>>97112957
If you didnt like how FIN focused on 4 7 10 and 14 and you're a fan of 1 8 9 and 15 then yeah it's worth buying
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>chocobo box already out of stock
>even on my LGS
Does wizard do this on purpose or what?
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>>97112288
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>wow, you are really only playing OP decks
>*drops bolas's citadel, plays 10 spells*
>it's not like you leave me any choice
>*drops a 2 card combo*
>I mean, really? the one ring?
>*plays necropotence, draws 10*
>so what you're playing a sauron deck?
>*sets up his 3rd infinite combo today*
>you only won that last round because of the one ring
>*dies to 3 nazgul*
>see? complete bullshit
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>>97112966
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>>97112957
The ff1 one seems really cool, esper parties is a cool theme but I don't want to build a second esper deck for a mid strategy
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>>97112966
~99% of all human commanders arent human tribal lords
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>>97112966
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>>97112861
Youre actually retarded you are arguing against what the company has stated by using their other statements. Either the company is right, in which case STitan hits the mark or they arent right and we can discuss the nuance
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>>97112615
There's pleanty of good out of the box decks, other anons are delusional
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>>97112898
Apparently not retard, because it's not MLD. You said it yourself.

Seriously, what kind of habsburgian troglodyte do you have to be to do this kind of humiliation ritual publicly?
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>>97112288
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>>97112992
Gavin made the definition and the fact that sundering does not meet the definition is the reason why he's even entertaining the idea of unbanning it in the first place, el retardo
>>97111129
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>>97112573
Most precons are good and providing the experience players want
>hmph not me though!
Then build a deck ultimately its a deckbuilding game
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>>97112987
That's kinda how I feel about it too
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>>97112288
a new one every 2 weeks, but I keep coming back to rakdos, golgari and gruul
but if had to choose, gut. she's extremely underrated and an absolute monster in 1v1 situations. people never block her skeletons, but the damage keeps creeping up until they cannot stop her inevitable mass sac.
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>>97113017
Its funny how you just keep on proving you are too dumb for this conversation
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>>97113028
What background do you run her with?
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>>97113022
>Most precons are good and providing the experience players want
this is not true. I have proxied a lot of precons over the last few years for various friends and tested them all, and none of them have anything resembling a mana curve. no matter how you play, you will always lag behind 2-3 whole turns behind any somewhat optimized deck. they are notoriously bad, a joke even.
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>>97113029
>get proven wrong
>uhh ur dumb
Make sure to post your tears when primetime gets unbanned and that wotc "blindsided" you haha
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>>97113033
iron throne. although I recently tested inspiring leader, which is probably the strongest choice for her if you just wanna go full tokens instead of aristocrats.
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>>97113049
Wow this thread is just full of retards today. Correct a precon (b2) will fall short against optimized decks (b3+)
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Got a chocobo print foil traveling chocobo and Stiltzkin in my pack
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>>97113026
It's a shame because I love FF1 but oh well. I gotta build this silly little guy still
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>>97113050
I haven't made any statements further than if we are appealing to wotc then we cant argue against their other designations. And that is both true and cannot be proven wrong
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>>97111149
Shitty art direction. Pre-2000s art was kino and soulful
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>>97112106
She's Orzhov's greatest whore
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>>97113059
a precon with infinites + gamechangers will fail against budget decks just because they are so dogshit.
precons were never good in mtg, and still aren't. I wish retards like you would stop trying to sell them to other retards. absolute dogshit, unfun decks. nobody at wotc actually plays the game.
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>>97111247
Yeah I didn't put much thought in to it or where it's unique place in the color pie would be.
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>>97113078
Ixalan mermaids, Elven Empire and hearthhull are great out of the box, almost b3 level.
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>>97113078
Maybe? Budget decks can be b3/4. I think youre too dumb and to resentment fueled for this discussion to be even remotely productive
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>>97113057
Sounds pretty cool honestly anon
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>>97113066
He does seem like a fun build
I'm glad he's getting a chocobo track foil
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>>97112916
Think the last worlds had 2,500 entrances.
Magics has 113.
Now I know that's not really comparable, since magic players have to earn their spots at worlds, but 113 after a year of events probably means 5k+ players at a competitive level.
I don't think the competitive scene for both Pokemon and magic are much to brag about.
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>>97113005
I'm building a discard deck, with him as the secondary commander for when I want to chill and tiny bones when niggas get silly.
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All this Teysa posting made me realize I don't have dedicated Orzhov deck. What Teysa to build, and how to maximize the amount of goth tiddies in it?
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>>97113069
You still havent proven how sundering meets gavin's definition fyi, dont let the fact that titan destroys your casual pod blind you from the truth
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>>97113151
You know her tits are only big in fanart, right?
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>>97113157
It doesnt have to. Wotc has designated it MLD. It can be an exception to the criteria or whatever but currently it still is labeled MLD by wotc.
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>>97112920
>Simic so 8 mana Lorthos happens pretty early
>Cast the 7 mana kraken you find off him
>Cast a 5 drop serpent you find off that one
>Cast any random 3-4 drop off that
Its specifically so you cant chain the effect like that
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>>97113164
Have I been cheated? I don't want to become a proxy fag. If not Teysa, which Orzhov lady has the biggest assets?
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>>97113157
>Opponents have one land each,
>You do a bunch of nonsense turn 2 to blow up all lands.
>"What are you upset about fellow bracket 2s, I only blew up 4 lands that's not MLD."
This is how dumb you sound. The least effective the spell can be isn't the be all end all of why it would be banned or put on the GC, it's potential is much more important to consider.
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>>97113179
I never said sundering titan isnt banned for being defined as mld by the now defunct RC, because it is, and wotc currently keeps it banned
Just saying that if it ever gets unbanned (and there's a chance that it can be, from gavin's own mouth, gee i wonder why), that there would be a reason for it and you better not cry about it lol
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>>97113210
>This is how dumb you sound.
No that's how (You) perceive Gavin to sound and i can assure you sundering is a lot easier to rules lawyer for than something like keldon firebombers, it being on the banned list is the only thing stopping it from destroying your pod
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>>97113066
How to build this
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>>97112966
There are dozens of examples of this, including two within the same creature type
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>>97112378
I've been wanting to try her in stuff. That effect looks pretty potent. Though her being from a game I've never played made me hesitant.
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the ff scene box cards are gonna go down in price this time, r-right? hope it's not gonna be like the lotr holiday release
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>>97113122
I was planning on grabbing a bundle if I could and building whatever foil I pull but I still wanna build him anyway.
>>97113222
Token and discard synergies. There's a few decent madness mono red cards, plenty of good flashback and unearth cards and you have building a big board or tokens to pump up as a win con
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>>97112288
Lately, probably Ivora. She's really direct and easy to explain which I appreciate when dealing with newer players. And the looting and discarding can really pump her up fast while cycling through cards to make sure you always have some kind of interaction so she can hold her own well too.
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>>97112976
Artifical scarcasity
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>>97113210
>Opponents have one land each,
>You do a bunch of nonsense turn 2 to blow up all lands.
>nonsense
>when all i did was cast picrel
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE MLD AT COMMON?! GAVIN PLS BAN ONEGAI
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>>97111806
island should be a view from Byrgenwerth with master willem on his chair facing the lake. blue is the smart color so the institute fits
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https://archidekt.com/decks/17889655/topher_21
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>>97113425
frig, submitted too early

I need to cut 12 cards..
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>>97112976
yes, it's to drive fomo and keep people hooked for the next product. started immediately with universes beyond
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>>97113352
>>97113472
They don't want to sell more anyway? It's fucking dumb to do that unless they're the ones resselling under the table wich it's almost impossible.
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>>97113486
well yes but this way they quarantee selling out in record times which looks very good to investors
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>>97113495
So they prefer low sellings with an "out of stock" sign instead of selling more? I guess i don't understand big corpos.
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>>97113503
>produce a stock
>it sells out
>no need to store the product
>no need to sell at discount
>scalpers hyped for next product
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>>97113503
the ceos make more money from stock going up. something card sales won't do as fast to assure their golden parachute
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>>97112643
No, instead it's a thread for hobby enthusiasts with more knowledge and passion for the subject material that can be actively interacted with who may have genuine opinions and differing ideas.

>>97112658
>>97112685
I was more hoping that there might be some kind of resource for finding out about archetypes that have received new life in recent years or major evolutions in how the format is played.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/xwzwpvmyxEihr2A3pV1isQ

What do you guys think? I still need to slot 20 cards. I have a few in the considering section and probably many of those will go in.

Im worried that maybe I should commit to more food/clue generators since my commander is dependent on them. Ive taken this list in a direction which is focused on artifacts amd cheating artifacts into play for cheap. That does synergize with Sarah Jane since she makes clues when I play artifacts and 3rd doctor benefits but I wonder if Im better off committing to a different commander (Mendicant Core?) if I want to make this a more artifact focused list.

Directions I can go:
> flash enablers like Liberator, Raff Capashan
Sarah Jane triggers once per turn so there is synergy but then I worry Im ultra dependent on Sarah sticking and if shes removed my value engine goes away.
> more token generators
I want generators specifically not more rider effects
> Cards like cryogen relic, carrot cake that want to be sac'd
Might be too dependent on Repurposing Bay, Oswald to be reliable.

Comments encouraged
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>>97113486
it's all to sell MORE product
>force LGS to request stock in advance
>only provide a fraction of what they request
>if you don't regularly request a lot then you get sent even kess
>stores have to order more than they need, anticipating only a portion of the request will be fulfilled
>stores get low allocation so they sell out fast, customers order more from store sotres krder more from wotc
>rerelease/reprint intentionally short printed product at a later time
>ride the marketing and FOMO hype

we already saw this with the FF precons at the start of the set release, and chocobo foils
its all FOMO and convincing consumers (not players) that if they don't BUY NOW the all of the product is going to get snatched by others (scalpers)
we also saw this with spiderman, when LGS ordered a bunch of product that didn't sell, but WotC(investors) already made money from the initial orders from LGS so they aren't eating any financial loss.
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>>97112288
Your life ends 30 minutes from now
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>>97113303
It's quit slow on it's own because it's only once and only during your turn but I run proliferation as well.
This Aang can make it incredibly fast if you can get it out
Minthara is very good in BG3 but dont feel like you need to play it to play her.
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>>97113691
Is there a way to remove the time counters faster?
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>>97113151
Teysa Markov sacrifice there's not that much tiddies in it though
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>>97113209
the answer might disturb you.
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>>97113641
didn't we see this already with lotr scene boxes too?
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>>97113738
>nu art deliberately hides her tits
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>>97113326
Very based building something so underplayed
>>97113318
>I was planning on grabbing a bundle if I could and building whatever foil I pull but I still wanna build him anyway
Incredibly based
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>>97113703
https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Asynergy-suspend+commander%3Aru+game%3Apaper&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
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>>97111441
I've run Stasis for a quarter of a century. Sometimes without a win condition. Yes.
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>>97113758
Justice 4 Hero of Bladehold
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>>97113703
Jhora's Time Bug, Paradox Haze, Clockspinning, Timecrafting, extra turns in general
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HELP! I need fun Temur commander
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>>97113852
Maelstrom Wanderer
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>>97113852
Magus Lucca Kane
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>playing obeka spliter of seconds.
>They exiled my reaver cleaver, mechanized production and my reveal in riches for obvious reasons. Do have her equipped the aether spark though.
>Hit someone for 5, draw five cards due to phyrexian arena and put the aether spark to 11.
>Drew into jhoira of the ghitu, forced fruition, extravagant duplication, and some lands.
>Already had a court of Court of Vantress in my hand. Tap out to play the court
>Playing that after you attacked?
>Drew into it, and I just want the monarch draw.
>Draw
>Trail blazer boots.
>What is this, Christmas?
>Get hit, lose monarch.
>Turn comes around.
>Produce 10 blue mana.
>Dump all my cards listed and suspend forced fruition.
>By some miracle no one countered anything or blew up my boots.
>Attack the monarch.
>Spend the first 4 upkeeps copying vantress and extravagant with one another.
>Spend my last upkeep copying the forced fruition that came off suspend with all of the other copiers
>16 copies of forced fruition plus the original.
>If an opponent plays a spell they will draw 119 cards.
>Drew into a counter from arena.
>"Don't worry guys, I'll stop this"
>Guy casts farewell.
>You know you'll die before that resolves.
>Well, I have a chance to draw into an answer between each one triggering.
>Guy is getting desperate, he's not
>His answer was to blow up 1 copy before he died.
>Second guy tapped out to cyc rift, and was countered.
>Third guy just scoop.
>This was all at a fair "3" table
I think I'm an asshole.
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>>97113889
commander is too much fun. had to give up on her because she never survived a turn cycle.
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>>97113896
Fake story. No one runs removal in bracket 3.
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>>97113852
Flubs the fool, accept no substitute
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I NEED A BLOOD MAGIC COMMANDER NOW!
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what do you do when you accidentally say a slur when trying to pronounce a card?
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>>97113931
Laugh, slap my knee, and repeat it louder.
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>>97113852
picrel
>>97113926
Is that age of conan?
Pick a vampite I guess.
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>>97113921
How do you build him so you arent playing solitaire with yourself
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>>97113916
If you say so
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>>97113758
Sorry furry, youve been cancelled
Back to furaffinity with you
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>>97113852
I've been having fun with an Illuna mutate deck with a lot of topdeck manipulation.
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>>97113926
See>>97113326
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Is there not a single dimir legendary creature that generates blood tokens? According to scryfall there isn't.
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>>97112288
Henzie henzie henzie henzie
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> his favorite commander doesnt have an attack trigger
Ngmi
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So I don't get it. Is 3/3 Elk a trans man (formerly female) or becoming a tranny?
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>>97113994
>his favorite commander doesnt have a cast trigger
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>>97113937
When are we getting a SLD pikachu version of this?
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>>97113999
he's a man, why would you think otherwise?
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>>97114012
The constant use of trans flags
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>>97114012
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>>97113968
There doesn't appear to be. It's mostly a red and black thing. With vampire Odric and Rutstein being slight exceptions. Always knew blood was much less supported of the artifact trios but I didn't realize it was so under utilized in comparison.
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>>97113896
This is totally fine turn 6 beyond, scrub
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>>97114026
>he/they
this is even more extra than the regular pronoun fuckery
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>>97111867
What's the commander and why do you want to build him? Figured that out and then gather all the cards you have currently that work towards that thing you want him to do and how to do it better. Then start trimming to make space for whatever lands, interaction, protection, and other stuff you want to put in. That's usually how I do it.
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>>97114026
Ugh
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>>97113940
Just be careful about adding the usual solitaire cards? ie; low cmc cards that provide immediate bursts of draw or mana.
fx rituals leads to card vomit, while ramp that puts lands in play tapped is fine.
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>>97111867
>playstyle+colors
>look up synergies for them
>pet cards if any
>current manabase accessibility
>pull the trigger or not finally
that's about it
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>>97113738
Well, that is not too disturbing... But I don't like monocoloured commanders.
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>>97113969
wish I could play OP shit like this and get away with it
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>>97114026
The trooning is using /they. He's a low effort troon that's just a dude that wants to be included in the fad
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>>97113954
Your words are hurtful, you've left me quite discheesed.
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Why has /edhg/ turned it's back on cascade?
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>the final fantasy holiday scene cards I wanted were sold out in SECONDS
I love low print mechanically unique cards!
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>>97111867
pick a commander
>not 5 color slop commander
>not mono color commander (nothing wrong, I find it boring and can't make deck I enjoy from them)
>usually start with 2 colour commander, but "upgrade" them to a third color if I find a card that opens more possibilities

basic deckbuilding
>lands: 42 lands (will cut this down based on the curve)
>rocks: solring, signet, talisman
>card draw that works with the deck theme and synergy
>generic good cards that work with deck theme and synergy
>removal, interactions, protection, and recovery
>pet cards
>trim down excess cards to get to 100
>trim lands to fit curve
>slot in a few more cards to reach 100 again, adjusting for colour balance
wah lah
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>making toph deck
>hmmm should I buy this amazingly cute card for $150
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>>97114120
RATRATRATRATRAT
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>>97114122
anyway I cast vexing bauble
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>>97114141
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>>97113999
He's clearly a twink who wants to troon but has reservations. They all cave eventually
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>>97114150
mods
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>>97113999
he's a transman (male)
only bigots think a man can't be a transman
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>>97114136
>all that shit before pet cards
you are left with whole 10 slots to customise with!
actual slop
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>>97114142
Hell yeah brother
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Yesterday I had to play with a gross obese foid with with straight-up brown teeth with completely proxied-out overpowered decks compared to what everyone else was running. She would get far ahead fast in every game we played but in the last game instead of just killing us she would was all like
>welllll I dont wanna attack cus its too mean since I won the other games teehee
So we just had to sit there in agony hopelessly floundering around until I got an answer, after which she sacced enough creatures to kill me on the stack and finish everybody off when the entire fucking game couldve been over 30 minutes ago. I wanted to fucking flip the table. Oh yeah and also her boyfriend was there and did everything he could to not antagonize her on board a single time. Maybe the most miserable experience Ive had in 7 years of playing. I want my old playgroup back but they quit because of the UB slop FML.
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If I'm playing 3color that includes green, is it better to have three Talismans or three of the staple green land tutor sorceries if I can't have both?
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>>97114164
wrong, its closer to 15-20
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this is my shitfest list of commander decks I've had, somewhat ordered by time spent / enjoyment, vast majority on complete budget with questionable deck building skills
I'm in dire need of some recommendations, because I want a new deck, but I'm getting bored of every commander I'm trying to build right after starting
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>>97114176
tutoring lands is better, and usually the better option over mana rocks if you have access to green
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>>97114169
wish I had the balls to quit due to UB slop
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Talrand bros??
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>>97114176
land tutors 90% of the time
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>>97114169
>I had to play with
No you didnt. Everything past the first 30 seconds of you meeting is your own damn fault
>>97114176
Land ramp that can grab your colours>>>>> rocks
Pretty much always.
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>>97114120
> anti semitic furry
Levels of based not thought possible
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>>97114187
one of my favorite decks is nu-volrath because I get to tinker with it almost every set thanks to new cards that care about counters. keeps the deck interesting
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>>97114150
I dont understand >>97114156
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>>97114203
nazi furries are a tale as old as internet
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>>97114187
Build maraxus as some meme b1 full of roided out creatures
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>>97114214
>nazi furries are a tale as old as internet
Of course, I know him, hes me!
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>>97114120
How is mono black rats anyway? I'll admit Ashcoat and Marrow-Gnawer are tempting me to try it.
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>>97114199
It was either deal with the bullshit or be known as the salty scooper guy who storms out of the store because there were no more pods. It was a lose lose. In hindsight yes I shouldve just chose the latter but jesus christ playing with randoms is impossible in the current year. I swear it was never this bad before.
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>>97114220
eh, I really enjoyed maraxus, actually tempted to revive the deck, but while swinging with and flinging a 25/25 roided retard into people in mono red is fun, most of the decks in my pod are B3 and I have to be at least minimally competitive to have fun
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How did you discover your colour identity? I am still trying to find myself, and I am not sure where I belong.
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>>97114251
I took an online quiz
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>>97114238
Marrow-Gnawer is just better Krenko because you can run all the best mono-B shit as well. Ashnods into torment of hellfire is the braindead win
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>>97114251
Thats okay xister! Just know whatever color identity you choose, YOU ARE VALID, and dont listen to bigots saying you can only put certain colors in your decks, theyre just evil racist chuds who should be expelled from the community.
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>>97114251
Thought boros was a going to be a fun color combo.
It was.
Now I have 6 boros decks
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>>97114251
player color identity is a scam made by the big wheel
but seriously I found myself being very anti-red when I started because I kept losing to aggro
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>>97114238
Admittedly i haven't tried running Ashcoat yet. Having an engine and an overrun on him makes me wary because he has a massive target on him.
Marrow-gnawer is fine but quite boring imo.
Right now my favourite rat is Vren the relentless I'm still waiting for my friend to finish drawing a better looking genderbent version.
>>97114251
I've found that it's much like finding your own style as an artist. You just have to play a bunch and you'll quickly find out what you enjoy most about the game and what colours cater to that.
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>>97114187
Some commanders (mostly) within your colour preference that I've enjoyed playing. Geralf is a lot of fun though and not the sort of deck most people think of when they think "mono-blue".
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>>97114317
NTA but mind sharing your Quintorius list?
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>>97114317
post baru list
any interesting uptap shenanigans?
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>>97114308
Yeah Ashcoat so clearly reads snowball hard that I can't imagine him surviving long. Guess I could pick up both Ashcoat and Marrow-Gnawer and swap between them maybe. I've been meaning to try mono black and haven't done a tribal deck in a while so they both seemed good for the fit. Been itching to do some rat stuff.

>that spoiler
I hope you share it here once you get that art anon.
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>>97111813
I need to make a proxy with pic rel for the art
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>>97114268
Having a clear win condition is good at least. Even if it's simple. Probably wouldn't run any searchers for it and just have it be something that could happen if I go that route. Would leave the door open to put in a bunch of the goofier rats and tribal synergies.
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>>97114317
>Auntie Blyte
Post list anon. She's been sitting at the top of my bulk for years and I've been meaning to give her a home.
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>>97114317
Is Geralf just about stuffing biggest toughness creatures into the deck and sacrifacing them to smash in the air or is there more to it?
same question to Kibo / Baru actually, standard tribal stuff or can they do some extra fun stuff?
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>>97114187
>Red and green, some white
>Feldon
Based
Try out Henzie
Fynn the fangbearer
Goreclaw
Jolly balloon man
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>>97114337
Will do!
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>>97114317
I love my shitty Geralf deck
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>>97113151
Teysa Envoy of Ghosts voltron for the Timmy table.
Teysa Karlov double death triggers if you like aristocrats.
Teysa Orzhov Scion Darkest Hour turbo for the closest she can get to cEDH.
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Any pointers on this deck? It's the classic "play your opponent's stuff" archetype, but i also added a ton of ramp, the idea being that cards in this archetype inherently generate a lot of card advantage (albeit from the opponent's decks), and so i need to have a lot of mana to be able to cast as much stuff as possible. I also added a bunch of big spells, since i'm going to have a lot of mana anyway.

https://archidekt.com/decks/17832283
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>>97114192
He's actually so good. More expensive than talrand, but the birds having vigilance is great and you get to scry 2 on top of it.
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>>97114456
>>97114192
Not to mention triggering off non creature spells instead of just instant and sorceries
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>>97114332
>>97114335
>>97114360
I'm sorry, I don't actually have any up-to-date lists online.
With Baru I have Saryth, the Viper's Fang and Sting, the Glinting Dagger for untaps. I've got some populate as well. I've tried to throw in a decent amount of deathtouch and power doubling
With Quintorius, I have a couple things to make me spirit tokens but I'm not really focusing on spirit tokens as much as it looks like others are based on edhrec. I am running a lot of discard/exile-cast synergy though. Also, ctrl+f on edhrec told me Glory, which I really like, isn't on the Quintorius page. Same thing with Auntie Blyte and War Elemental. My Blyte deck is relatively low on substantial creatures and I'm trying to run a lot of Fault Line-likes.
>>97114403
Geralf is mostly flying beaters, but there's also stealing creatures. It's also a good excuse to run Stormtide Leviathan. With Kibo I run a lot of artifact token gifting cards.
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>>97114251
>How did you discover your colour identity?
A red mage knows they are a red mage simple as.
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>>97114447
So I made a don andres deck.

1. Its a battlecruiser
2. You WILL get hated the fuck out of the game

If you dont care about aggro, you need more control. you will get focused. I’d remove some of the slower creatures pieces and add in stuff like spell copying and narsets, your commander is going to be a removal magnet. Additionally, cards like outrageous robbery are better than they look.
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>>97114593
I don't think i'll be that hated because i only play with my friends, and they're cool with the archetype. But yeah, going a bit more controlling might be nice.
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>>97114251
If you have to ask this question in this way, its Selesnya
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Is it worth buying either the chocobo bundle or the scene boxes?

Is the chocobo bundle just a fancy normal bundle?
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>>97114712
How hard is it to read what they come with and whether or not you want it
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>>97114251
I found a card I wanted to be my commander and then while looking for cards for it, i found more cool cards and now i have 3 orzhov decks
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Scroll Rack is ridiculously fun.
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Why isn't Talon Gates just in every deck?
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>>97114821
Yeah, on occasion. But cunts like to use this and senseis constantly like fags.
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>>97114828
Ive tried Senseis but never understood it, its just top deck manipulation? Arent there dozens of cards that do that like Mirris Guile/Cream of the Crop/essentially and scry?
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>>97114845
Urza's Saga
Artifact untapping abilities work well with it
Fetchlands can always just shuffle it away if you need to see more cards like a brainstorm
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>>97114410
>Jolly balloon man
damn, I love this one, completely missed it somehow
I was on the verge of doing one of Rionya / Delina / Jaxis, but didn't go with it because they naturally ended up with too similar creatures to my Feldon, adding white to the pool is great
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>>97112844
It would. The art is really cool.
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>>97114927
>I was on the verge of doing one of Rionya / Delina / Jaxis, but didn't go with it because they naturally ended up with too similar creatures to my Feldon
I was going to suggest those three to you but then I saw that you had already built Feldon

Jolly balloon man is indeed a lot of fun because by adding white your options open up significantly. Just the fact that you have reliable enchantment removal compared to mono red gives the deck a lot more staying power, and the restrictions with the balloon mean that you have to get pretty creative. He's rapidly become one of my top five favorites even though I didn't really care much for the theme of duskmourn

Another suggestion for you: Xenagos
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>>97114823
>4 mana to phase out one (1) creature
The land aspect of it is nice but by no means does it make it an auto include
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I can never win a game with a deck that isn't blink or aristocrat combo
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>>97114823
costs 12 dollars
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>>97114957
>i can only win with combos that rely on dumb opponents underestimating a small board of dorks
>my winrate drops significantly when my opponents are smart and run removal/boardwipes
Deckbuilding issue
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>>97114845
Well, the thing about Sensei's top is the convenience and versatility. Absent anything else it's "{2}: Scry 3, draw a card." with the 'downside' of getting to do it again next turn-- and that's the floor to it.

Like >>97114871
says, you can even just activate it blind to draw one for {1} and then shuffle it through. You can get up to some serious nonsense with proper synergy.
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>>97114957
You sound like my friend, only he can't build without using massive life gain in all his decks.
Force yourself out of your shell, only way you'll ever learn
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>>97114251
I am a red mage. I always play mono red aggro in every format of standard and modern since I started playing the game, trying to keep as close to a sligh mana curve as possible. UW control decks are consistently my biggest enemy and the decks I hate playing against the most. My game philosophy in all formats is build something fast and consistent, as the best way to get past my opponent's bullshit is to kill them before they can set up. In EDH I have a mono red deck, 2 rakdos decks and a jund deck, as well as a few non red decks.
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>>97114944
>Xenagos
yeee building stompy is something I have to do eventually because it's been haunting me since I started playing EDH, but I have too severe of a decision paralysis for that currently since there are so many commanders for it, probably leaning bit more towards monoG with Kona/Goreclaw/Ghalta with that tho
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>>97114991
I want to win games though
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>>97114251
Found myself attracted to monowhite commanders and play style since my first commander. Now I'm locked in at ~30 mono white decks. It was love at first sight.
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>>97114997
deck building and play skill issue
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>>97114997
If you want to win you wouldnt be on blink/aristocrats
As proof that better strats exist big mana is well represented in cedh (kinnan), the same cant be said for your decks
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>>97114251
regardless of what I'm playing I always like the stuff that's fast or aggro so it was kind of a no brainer for me
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>>97114996
I'm honestly not sure why Kona is so popular but I can tell you Goreclaw is awesome and does a lot for you

Mono green is spoiled with good options desu
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>>97115009
I don't play cedh, my decks are in the 5-50 range not the 500-500 range
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>>97114845
It's "pay 1 draw a card" with any effect that lets you cast stuff off the top of your deck, and "draw your entire deck" if you have any artifact cost reduction. It's also hard to get rid of, because you can also put the top on top your deck in response to someone threatening it or just if it dies to some other board wipe
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>>97115022
>decks are just worth $50
Ah so it's a money issue then, got it
>pay more, get access to better strats
Or just proxy lol
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>>97115012
I think it's just that "put shit from hand for free on battlefield" triggers more dopamine than paying 2 less per creature, even it it's not necessarily stronger in the end
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>>97115028
>guy is being a faggot with senseis
>tidebinder it
>he malds
>other dumbass attacks me for a trigger
>tell him ill block with tidebinder
>’lol ok’
>kill his draw engine, senseis online again
>guy malds that I blocked
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>>97115041
Probably right. Interestingly Kona is "permanent" not just creature, but in monogreen I have to imagine that most people are playing it as a big creatures deck
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>>97115034
>Or just proxy lol
Giving people full access to every magic card only leads to knuckle dragging pubstomping and even worse deck building and play skills.
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>>97115075
Correct, proxying does lead to arms races
Im just acknowledging that the guys wants to win and is just cash strapped
Maybe he wont be a nigger and have some self control, who knows
Point is blink and aristocrats are bona fide bracket 2 strats, they are nonexistent in the higher brackets
>big mana is just that good of a strat in comparison, really
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Would it be worth to put this in Oketra just for the extra reach? Hard to come by in mono white.
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>>97114251
Reading the replies to this makes it seem ther's lots of red mages here.
Also interesting to see most immediately knew which color to choose.
I am a cynical dick and that's why I play dimir. I have never played anything else and have no interest in changing.
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>>97115172
are you me
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I think I should embark on a personal mission to have a mono color deck of each color.
The only one I don't want to do is blue.
Which is why I'll do Jin or Urza to make it as miserable for me as it is for everyone else
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>>97115223
lady octopus is overpowered just play that
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>>97115223
No, I think I will just run this guy and figure out how to best do stun counters.
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>>97115229
Nta but I actually love the design but I hate marvel so I'm never going to do it
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>>97115223
Mono blue is the worst
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https://moxfield.com/decks/ksLxnUYibkOfDdRUBTHfmA
do you think a wraith deck is viable
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>>97115173
Red is the chad color. Blue and blue variants are the pseud colors.
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>>97115279
get the UW proxy of it, doubt someone will mind
>>97115278
Lulu and be blinking Fear of Sleep Paralysis and Summon: Shiva, Utros also stuns creatures when you spend 4+ mana on noncreature spells is roughly my bet of doing stun counters
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>"Hey they're legal commanders in pauper commander, mind if my play my deck with them as commanders?"
How do you respond?
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Thoughts?
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>>97115412
"sure"
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>>97115414
Absolute cancer
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>>97115414
>poison win outta nowhere
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>>97115278
What a dogshit choice of a commander.
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>>97115430
>>97115437
I just liked the artifact counters :( I hate infinite combos/instakills
Its actually the one thing I despise about magic is the potential for infinite 2-3 cards combos.
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>>97115502
You could have said how you wanted to use him, just saying thoughts? makes people think of the most bullshit that can be done with him
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>>97115527
I assumed people would think more about the precon, but yeah I shouldve known.
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This is MLD and you are a bracket 4 pubstomper if you run this
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>>97115414
I think he'd be fun with the fallout Science precon, unfortunately it's a combo bait commander.
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>>97115223
speaking of mono autism im stuck on green, i don't want elfball and the slime-storm looks a bit interesting but idk how to go about it outside of making it actually being selvala creature storm
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Give me red creatures to put into my Rionya deck
I have the instant and sorcery base completed, just need creatures.
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>>97115712
Cabbage merchant
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>>97115712
I'm going to be a retard with green myself.
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>get back with my hulkweaver combo karador
>feel like barely scratching bracket 4 unless im keeping some premium hand
should i just switch to nethroi if i want to turbo out the combo faster or is just matter of skill issue and accepting mediocre hand in the gamestate of 2025? I feel like the hatebear chuddies also barely matter unless you're pubstomping, then you're satan for playing any of them
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>>97113771
I like this better as a commander but having them both in the deck is also good
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>>97115868
Trannyslop
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I can run this or finale of devastation.

Which would toph like more
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>>97115712
You know who.
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>>97115889
be a budget CHAD
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>>97115712
Azusa is a classic
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>>97115973
>I want to gas out for a quick KO then get completely dumpstered by the remaining too
Lifa is classic noobtrap commander
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>>97115712
Take the stompy pill

Also does anyone at ALL like this treatment? It looks terrible
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>>97116034
>precon face
nope
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>>97116034
Foil Etched can look a lot better in person than it does in photos, but it's hit or miss.
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>>97116062
.... What
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>>97116078
I guess they never miss huh
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>>97116078
>>97116034
It just ruins the art by muting the colors.
All they had to do for retro etched foils was leave the art box alone like they did with the text box but nooo they had to ruin it.
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>>97115889
Finale is objectively better, its a good budget replacement though.
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>>97115889
Sea Monster Tribal has been eating good. Just needs a slightly better commander
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>>97116028
Just play card draw, silly noob.
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>>97116208
I will turn you sea monsters into sushi
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>>97116034
I like it on Bhaal and Derevi . 1 big feature is despite happening in later printings, the risk of pringling is next to nothing.
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>>97116208
Kiora is a fine sea monsters commander
Koma and Aesi are also viable but they kind of warp your strategy away from just casting big dumb sea monsters
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>>97115414
Only acceptable in the 99 of sanic.
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>>97116227
Just fix their moisture level and then double sleeve them. Sure it's annoying to do if you got them already pringled but it's not like they will randomly curl if you have them stored properly.
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>cyc rift

How do you deal with this stupid fucking spell.
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>>97116260
Play bracket 2
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>>97116260
win the game before anyone has access to 7 mana
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>>97116261
>oh dude just play in the bracket where everyone is dipping blue for free counterspells and tutors and more cyc rifts
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>>97116260
Count it.
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>>97116260
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>me walking into the LGS Commander night after the banlist has been eradicated
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>>97116284
I've never once had this in my hand when it ever mattered.

>>97116278
>oh dude to stop the best board wipe you need to be in the most overpowered color that has a monopoly on consistent stack interaction
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>>97116260
Oh, did you tap out for that? Cool.
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>>97116284
Is that Rowan? Fuck, why did you have to post this card? Now I have no choice but to pay $10 to put it in my pimped out turbo rowan deck
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>>97116303
>When you plan to stop cyc rift, you can!
Incredible, I know
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>>97116252
Reread my post ESLkun. The fucking level of literacy UBslop brings in I swear.
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>>97116303
>I've never once had this in my hand when it ever mattered
Do people not play blue in your area? The card does useful stuff for me like 85% of the time I draw it.
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>remove a guys rhystic immediately while paying the taxes
>Play my commander
>He instantly counters it out of spite, so I pass.
>"Oh, so you got rid of your counter, im going to go infinite now."
Bravo retard.
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Playing Bracket 3 with a gentleman's agreement to not use GCs or intentionally going infinite but allowing all other forms of optimization is the healthiest pod dynamic.
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>>97116303
>I've never once had this in my hand when it ever mattered.
It's a great feeling to kill or counter 5 color bullshit commanders for one red mana.
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>>97116372
Playing Bracket 3 with a gentleman's agreement that Blood Moon is a totally OK card is the healthiest pod dynamic.
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are you running more than 38 lands in a non-landfall deck?
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>>97116245
My issue with Kiora is she doesnt work well with the boardwipe spell that clears thee board except for the tribal.
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The number of times I'm told I'm not letting someone play the game because I stop a TOR or Rhystic Study is too high.
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>>97116500
People thing propaganda "stops them from playing the game" because they have to pay to attack
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god my gaia's cradle delivered today
merry christmas me (:
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>>97116510
>my chinese bootleg arrived
not a real card, not a real woman
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>>97116372
>bro just let me combo off I don't want to deal with game changers but I want to combofag just let me combo!
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>>97116515
went through ebay authenticator and passed my own tests so shut the fuck up!
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>>97116500
Make a stax deck to show them what not letting someone play the game really means
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>>97116491
Pic related and Slinn Voda fixed that at least, even if Whelming Wave still washes merfolk away.
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>>97116517
wrong, most of us hate combo and we gang up and kill the one who likes it when he tries to get cute
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>>97116540
Slinn is SO expensive but yeah I agree, the sea monsters been doing real well.
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>>97112288
I love enrage. I love it very much.
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>>97111867
I go to edhrec and build a deck off suggestions there. Then, I search for similar cards using scryfalls tagging system in order to find cards no one uses. Then I slowly replace that generic list with the cards I find. Effectively using a generic list as a skeleton to build off of
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>>97116260
Red elemental blast if red.
Lapse of certainty if white.
Sacrifice and living death if black.
Fog/Nature's claim the blue combo and then redeploy with your bajillion mana if green.
Counter if blue.

Cyc rift is only cancer when defended by free counterspells. Otherwise you see the 7 open mana coming from a mile away.
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>>97112288
It's just simple
>historic value
>buff creatures
>turn sideways
And it works far more than it really ever should. I couldn't exactly tell you how I consistently win games with this shit. I just end up with a lot of value.

The commander really isn't what makes it fun though unless you land one of the good doctors early on.
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>>97111867
I see a dogshit rare from the last century and reverse engineer a deck in which it'd shine.

"What's a good way to play big artifacts in green that also wants to swing?"
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>>97113703
Time travel is literally a mechanic
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>>97115973
Mediocre KOS commander beaten out by a jumpstart rare that is literally this card but better in all aspects
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do you ever run into the problem that every deck you build is just too strong for your friend's (optimized) table?
it's driving me insane. I have the tendency to pick strong commanders, but they way I build them, they have no kill potential before t6 (and t6 kills are rare), use no combos, no game changers, no expensive cards etc, while my friends pump their decks full of high value cards, 2 card combos and game changers. I once tried to help one of them out, and pointed out how he is using way too many high cmc enchantments in a non-enchantment deck, but he dismissed what I said with the argument
>I just like it that way bro
what am I to do here? do I just keep bashing them and hope they learn? it's been over 2 years at this point.
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>>97115712
Greensleeves was my delight

>when you realize that old song was probably about a hooker
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>>97116260
Pay attention to your opponents mana
Don't over extend
Play counterspells
Play teferi's protection
Bait it
Work around it.

There is no "HOW DO I MAKE THIS CARD SUDDENLY WORTHLESS IN MY OPPONENTS DECK?!"
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>>97116637
If you're having fun and they're having fun, just let it be
If they start bitching, tell them not to brush you off next time you give them advice
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>>97116372
3 GCs don't really lead to games that different to bracket 2. GCs shouldn't be a thing really. "If you had these three cards to your deck then it is automatically super powered!" your chances of drawing any of those 3 in a game isn't high. And drawing them every game is near 0
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>>97116635
Nope
>Pops hormones
You see she
>Pulls up rainbow tighighs
The
>Dilatez
Green
>Brushes thinning hair
QUEEN
>Readies noose
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>>97116659
I don't care about your demented /pol/shit, you dumb afterbirth
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>>97116625
This card makes artifact token fags commit suicide
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>>97116635
You will never be a woman.
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>>97116676
Tifa will never be a mossborn hydra
Enjoy losing that power at end of turn
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>>97116668
Also March of the Machines, Leyline of Singularity...
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>>97116686
Mossborn Hydra will never be a legend or cost 2 mana or have 2 huge tiddies. Mossborn Hydra does a good job being Tifa's pet guard dog- and you will never be a woman.
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>>97116655
>If you're having fun and they're having fun
I guess. They're still eager to meet up for a few games, but they're just so stubborn when it comes to advice. Another friend run next to no interaction and just gets outpaced by every deck that runs average removal. Like I said, it's driving me insane.
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No card makes me saltier than Teferi's Protection. I'd rather see a blood moon while playing esper than T-pro.
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>>97111867
I'll probably get made fun of but I usually find a commander then go to edhrec and look at the average deck for the commander. I add a bunch if stuff to it from there and then I start looking for other cards.
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>card is literally what I want
>huge lifelink, also a fireball in monoblack
>its not only a spiderman card, it's some retarded name and lore even for marvel

god damnit
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>>97117058
Sucks to be autistic. Sorry your mom used tylenol
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>>97111867
Moxfield has a feature that draws from the edhrec aggregates. You can literally build a deck by just picking the suggestions it gives. I usually start there and then add the cards I think fit best and are being underplayed to finish it
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>>97117062
chief, this is pretty stupid fucking character and name, and I generally like UB like final fantasy and avatar.
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>>97117058
I know nothing about Spider-man but Morlun, Devourer of Spiders is kind of a sick name imo
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>>97117068
It's a fucking vampire. You're just a faggot who only likes dumb cards if they have a knight on them
I hope they make more cards like this that you can't use unless they're called SPARKY SPARKY QUENCH MAN
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>>97117073
>>97117070
>I EAT SPIDERS
>YUM YUM

What are you shit heads even on? The art slaps, badass vampire guy, I dig it. But then it's - I eat spiders.
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>>97117068
Just proxy with the Omenpaths version :^)
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>>97117078
Honestly. While I don't mind Morlun I fucking wish we'd have gotten this as well. I really like Ixalan vampires and want more of these fucks.
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>>97117068
The entire set is stupid, don't forget dinospider and spider-ham
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>>97117095
>Shame its a MLP character but what are you going to do
Not play it? What kind of bizarre question is that?
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>>97117095
>MLP
Are people still triggered by this shit? It was 16 fucking years ago
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>>97117073
do you mean "cards you can't use *because* they're called SPARKY SPARKY QUENCH MAN"?
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Want to build this monowhite chad. Should I partner with far wanderer or inspiring leader?
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>>97117237
Huh, I thought this was a no-brainer board wipe deck. Turns out almost nobody plays it like that.
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>>97117068
I can get hating a lot of Spider-Man but not him. He looks like the most generic vampire ever. A dude in a three piece suit and pale skin. That is it, there is nothing super heroy about him. I am not going to bother listing how dumb vampire names are in Magic but Morlun fits right in. Out of any SPM card this one is the most fitting. 2 minutes in photoshop to take out the word spider and 85% of you would have no idea this had anything to do with Marvel.
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Blood Pustule Pox
XBBRR
Sorcery
Until end of turn, if a player would be dealt damage, they take that damage and lose an additional X life.


Transform Magic
RG
Instant
Turn target noncreature spell, and all other spells with the same name face down. (They have no text, and when it resolves with nothing, it's placed in the graveyard normally.)

The Beyond Realm's wisdom
WG
Replace all instances of 'each', 'all', 'opponent controls' with 'target' on target spell.
Overload WGWGWG
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>>97117362
>face down
but that means it's a 2/2 colorless creature with no abilities
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>>97116327
I was obviously talking about regular foils that you chose to replace with the shitter treatment because of a non-issue.
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>>97117362
"Change the text of target spell by replacing all instances of "each," "all," and "opponent controls"* with "target." It's controller may choose new targets for the spell."

Overload and 'opponent controls' don't work here.
Overload changes the text to "Change the text of target spell by replacing all instances of "each," "each," and "opponent controls" with "each.""
if it changed instances of "opponent controls" you'd end up with stuff like "destroy target creature an target," which is malformatted.
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>costs nothing
I, for one, am happy to get a new budget board wipe, in mono black even, that fucks with tokens and protection
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>>97116208
Take the Sin pill. It's incredibly easy to load the graveyard with giant sea monsters and start powering them out with Sin while ramping.
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>>97117523
yunabros... not like this
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>>97117523
>at random
Ew
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>>97117523
>random
>exile
>UB
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>>97117541
It's pretty easy to get exactly what you want out of the GY with Sin using delve. Just exile the nonland permanents you don't want so it's just lands and the ideal permanent you're looking for.
>>97117582
The anon I replied to was talking about a UB card and summon leviathan is the other obviously good big piece for the tribe. Fuck off you dumb poser.
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>>97115502
welcome do FIRE design
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>>97116208
Play Braids
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>>97117700
>>97117700
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I have a billion dollar idea for wotc
draft commander
you draft for 2 hours, then you play one game and contemplate life
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>>97117703
what is commander legends
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>>97117704
a 100 card singleton format, legend
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>>97117095
>Shame its a MLP character
This makes it better though. No one in their right mind is still carrying a pitchfork for ponies.
It's a silly effect, it's fine if it's a silly character.
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I wish mlp wasn't silver
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>>97117095
That's still degenerate.



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