Creepy Fey Edition>Previous Thread>>97101923>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionHave you ever had to deal with the fey in your games? For Changeling players: How often do you deal with cross splat shenanigans?
>>97114301Run, cute girl, run! The lasombra wannabe is about to rape you!
>>97114416meant to quote>>97114285
>>97114301>Have you ever had to deal with the fey in your games?All the time, every time, all chronicle long. Are you being cheeky?
>>97114416I was the original indian hater tbdesu
>>97114416Not to say I agree, but I do feel that it all came out of nowhere. Though it's not like there was no reason for it
>>97114416It's absurd how easy to manipulate people, especially Americans, have proved to be. It's only going to get worse as AI gets better.
>>97114439OP did include an alt question for Changeling players.
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>>97101985Someone should do this but for other splats
>>97114301>Have you ever had to deal with the fey in your games? The mixed-splat CoD chronicle that I played in for a few years occasionally had us running into hobgoblins, and we had contacts with the local freehold and often traded glamour-infused items for favors.
>>97114301[Banality 10] Fae? On my board? I think not.
>>97114583For real, fucking newfags
>>97114637Just remember price stabilité is gone.
>>97114637>>97114675Does this mean in selling price stabilité for 3 garou twinks the true name of Sunday Friend was forever altered?
>>97114675But Anon, that was the imposter, I'm the real one
>>97114301>QotTI ran Midnight Circus once ages and ages ago, but other than that changelings have probably been the splat I've used the least. I've tossed around occasionally a vague concept for a snuff film ring targeting fae as a plot motivator but have yet to use it.
>>97114692>actually citing the caste system Sukdeep pls
>>97114684>spoilersSometimes we do a little bit of trolling the fae
>>97114507Sure, why not. Garou edition:>All over the size spectrumBone Gnawers, Children of Gaia, Glass Walkers, Utkena and Black Spiral Dancers>Hung like a literal horseGet of Fenris, Fianna>Above averageShadow Lords, Red Talons. Black Furies descended males>AverageStargazers, Silent Striders>Below AverageWendigo>MicroSilver Fangs
>>97114735Silver Fangs will forever mald at the eternal Shadow Lord posters
>>97114507Someone did one for woofs the last time it was brought up. Red talons were second while Bone Gnawers were the median. Get and Fangs were the smallest
>>97114769There's more than two splats, wanted to see what anons could cook up for mages or wraiths
>>97114507>Iteration X
Any v20 backgrounds you recommend getting? I'm really considering just dumping everything into generation because I've also stacked a couple merits that give me extra blood from feeding so I want to be able to make use of all those points.
>>97114751They should try putting babies on women other than their sisters if they don't want microdicks
>>97114802>I'm really considering just dumping everything into generation
>>97114795To quote a great man "A pelvis dominator, that actually changes it's actual dick size and temperature of it's cock, of it's robotic cock to please a woman."
>>97114802A dot of resources if your ST is the kind of person to notice and make you suffer for starting out literally homeless and penniless. Otherwise yeah, generation is probably the best investment.
>>97114301>TQYeah. My group is starting a CtL game pretty soon, the ST was asking me about Idigam of all things a few weeks back. Our games usually include a teeny bit of crossover, on our terms.
On the topic of character creation, what's best to spend freebies on: attributes, abilities or backgrounds?
>>97114779Well I mean everyone knows Hermes house is the smallest despite their protest. Verbena and the Cenobites are the naturally biggest out of the traditions. NWO are Barbie and ken dolls. Progenitor's the biggest for technocracy. Syndicate's second smallest and they go to lengths to hide this.
>>97114769I wonder if anons would rather have the Get Ahroun boyfriend or the Red Talon Ahroun boyfriend. They're both racist, one is just dog racist and the other is human racist
>>97114834>>97114802>Putting points in generator when you can just have your own private army and use diablerie to get generationI've always wanted to try the cult background
>>97114879Would this make Tremere the smallest Vampires or were house Tremere an exception in the Hermes being micro
in CofD the Pure werewolves in South/Southeast Asian countries go to battle caked in red mud wearing garlands of skulls that hang all the way to the ground
>my thread on another board archived at only 116 postsfeel my Banality rising desu
>>97114920Consensus, in a bid to fuck them over, made them the horniest vamps ever. As such vamp Tremere are now average
4chan going down and everyone abandoning it was definitely a high banality event
>>97114439I wish I could get my group to play Changeling so bad.
>>97114890The Get is too busy sucking tranny cock. I've never met a neo-nazi who didn't exclusively bottom for trannies.
>>97115016Just be the benevolent dictator your group needs and tell them you're going to play changeling and it'll be fun because they get to fuck with others
>>97114974Most of mine archive at sub 50. It feels bad
>>97115039fascinating, rabbi, but the Get aren't Nazis
>>97114416Indians have been hated since the moment they were connected to the english speaking internet what are you smoking
>>97115039Even assuming the Get is a Neo-nazi, it's either you're a tranny or he's only interested in you. So the question is really what type of racist dog you'd rather be in a relationship with I suppose
>>97114916what's that one in?
speaking of spooky Fae, here's the cover of Kithbook Strega, from the storytellers vault.
>>97115319Meant generation, cult is another background in v20 that lets you be a member or have your own cult. I guess it's kind of like allies that worship you or something. The private army one is Military Force I think but if it's something officially supported for v20
>>97115422Fae are more spooky in the sense that you're going to end up with a missing kidney after you go to bed, not in the way other monsters are spooky I think
>>97115438What books are cult and private army in? I don't remember seeing them in the v20
>>97115515Cult is one of the black hand books, my bad. Guide to Tal'Mahe'Ra
>>97115422cute...
Reading through some of the backgrounds, the descriptions are pretty hilarious, though I like the way they sort of reflect the splat's attitude and opinions. Cool flavor text too if a bit depressing I kind of liked the bit about the Garou guy fluffing about being related to some hero and looking regal. Very cool
>>97115569>>97115569She doesn't have a name but is called Witchy-poo. She's a Childling Strega with delusions of being a Witch Queen.
>>97115652nice. i like the owls a lot
>>97115652What is her end goal? Other than Witch Queen stuff>>97115680They are neat I agree
>>97115722She's like 12, it's not very well thought out, but she's been trying to make friends with the Strix, owl chimera that are spawned by future disasters, and whose power is based on how horrible the disaster. In the book she decides to try and cozy up to the Strix for global thermo-nuclear annihilation.
>>97115737Smart plan
Anyone else find the "hurr durr I am more than human, I am the monster, ur clinging to a lie, I am the Beast" vampires to be unbearably cringe? You're 150 years old and you talk like a bullied middle schooler. Worse, you actually believe it rather than it just being a defense mechanism/attention seeking strategy. Accept responsibility for your actions as a vampire.
>>97115772>>97115772She gets points for enthusiasm, and will probably summon something she shouldn't in the near future.
>>97115737>cozy up for global thermo-nuclear annihilationThat's some crazy shit, I like it>>97115781It's cringe when Sabbat shovelheads do it to cope to but that's why it works. It's basically mental gymnastics to keep themselves from turning into a Wight. The nanosecond one of these dudes who've killed over 20 guys at least for no reason decide to "take responsibility" without OD'ing on the Caine pill they basically go insane
>>97115791>Summons the Manhattan spirit>It really wants to fuck over the worldCould be kino, I'd watch some girl in over her head doom humanity This is just Chainso man
>>97115800Sorry, the Strix of Global Thermonuclear Annihilation.Every possible disaster has it's own Strix, some big some small. >>97115814She's got a magic book, and a chimerical imp familiar, what could go wrong.
What V20 book are haven stats in? I see on some mrgone sheets that there are merits and flaws and such for them but don't see that stuff listed in core
>>97114802Generation & then cult is really good cause Cult is technically several backgrounds in a trenchcoat.
>>97116198I feel like cult does what it says on the tin, but it also depends on the ST and overall how people interpret what a cult is. Like cults have such a particularly fervent view that you can probably easily turn them into enemies by just going against the sort of tenets of what's going on. For example, if you make some hippy sex cult and then you, as the leader, decide to go full on monogamy with some chick out of of possessiveness, I feel like that would probably cause some friction. Just an example. Could easily happen if you grow a conscious over an NPC or something while doing some nasty shit running a cult. Could likewise easily argue that cult members are stupid enough to just ignore it
>>97115213There are no such thing as Nazis and there never has been, kike.
do vampires say 'yesternight'
>>97114301>Creepy Fey EditionAre they even threatening? I can see how Lost changelings are terrifying, but Dreaming?Just a bunch of larpers with the soul of an elf or furry.
ATTENTION!!!Before you post the inane question>How would Anonymous react to [insert splat here]?Consult the following>Beast: the Resurrection>Changeling: the Forsaken>Demon: the Reckoning >Deviant: the Awakening>Geist: the Primordial>Hunter: the Descent>Mage: the Apocalypse>Mummy: the Sin-Eaters>Promethean: the Requiem>Vampire: the Oblivion>Werewolf: the Vigil>Wraith: the AscensionI hope this clears things up.
>>97116490>'yesternight'That is cringingly awful, so the answer is probably yes.
>>97116417Well yeah, you gotta juggle the Cult & the cultists, but its a good way to put your eggs in a basket. There's a few ways to help though, either use New Age Thaumaturgy Rituals, Dominate, Presence or just Blood Bonds to mollify them. I find it best to have a deniable personality/alias for it. Like you could wear a golden mask & robes that hide your body when you talk to the Cult, then when you might need to you could have a Ghoul stand in for you & leave yourself to be an independent part with all the same control
>>97116526what, i thought it was kind of tasteful... in an awful way
>>97116490Do you not use yestereve or yesternight in your regular day to day speech? What sort of uncouth buffoon are you to speak of events yesterday that happened long after the sun was obscured?
>>97116499>Xe's never gotten raped for some glamour
>>97116545We use yesterday night these days gramps. You might be an Elder from King Charles's day but you speak like that and you'll be breaking the masquerade at some point
What are the limits of ghoul healing? I got an idea for a vampiric yakuza boss and his ghouled underlings (the kuei jin can tongue my anus) and I got to wondering how that would interact with their whole finger thing
>>97116583I would think ghouls have a good if limited ability to heal lethal wounds as long as you've given then blood. They're still basically normal humans just with better attributes, so less than what a full blown vampire can do but more than what a normal human can do. Still wouldn't be able to fully heal something that horribly fucks them up, like if they were to be shot until nearly dead. Something that would take human hunters months to recuperate from for instance, a ghoul might be faster but it's not a matter of having blood points and then full healing
>>97116583I don't recall if Ghouls can regen body parts like vampires. If they could, it'd be very difficult for them on account of their limited blood pool.
>>97116581Nah senpai just say he's bri'ish or something no cap and he'll be lit fr fr
Didn't know that was one of the filtered words
>>97116776Sometimes I forget English people exist
>>97116503>Mage: the ApocalypseNobody ever accused them of being overpowered...
>>97116866shit you just reminded me of https://youtu.be/wJFcQiixYFg>All mankind is facing an epic choice: a world of magic or a world of science. Which will it be?idk shit about mages lol
>>97116866This guy wasn't even a mage, he just had guns and a lot of rizz
>>97116884>a world of magic or a world of scienceThis is basically what Mage is, real Mage not fakeMage
>>97116866 >>97116900Why did you include a sourcebook in the list? Furthermore, since everyone has access to sorcery, it seems a bit of a redundant cash grab.
>>97116503Why did that image legitimately make me laugh outloud? Now everyone on the bus is looking at me like Im auditioning for Arthur Fleck.
How powerful could a methusalah's ghoul be in a coterie? Would they be able to stand side by side with kindred?
>>97116969>on the bus at midnightYou euros sure are weird>>97116958Is this a changeling or is this a werewolf sourcebook?
>>97116958 >>97116934You could make the same argument for Hunter: the Descent and, to a lesser extent, Vampire: the Oblivion, Werewolf: the Vigil, and (potentially) Deviant: the Awakening. Vampirism and skinchanging are practices that any mortal can do. It is only after extensive (ab)use of these practices that they become permanent.
>>97117020I either lost track or I'm a bit retarded, this reads like schizophrenia. Also>Any retarded average joe can shapeshift>Only becomes a full on furry werewolf if he does it too muchThat seems like a fun setting real talk, genuinely seems cool though you'd probably have to give them some sort of debuff for going too ham
>>97116503What does everyone think about the monster-creation system inspired by the bagua?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagua
>>97117031>this reads like schizophreniaJust wait until you discover the literal "vibes" system based on sound/color frequencies as hinted here >>97117084. While it may seem initially confusing, it is extremely useful for describing and interacting with the immaterial/spiritual parts of the setting.
>>97116992I don't think any ghoul can stand up to a Kindred normally unless it's the weakest kindred you can makeDefault kindred can learn disciplines up to 5 and ghouls up to 1, I remember reading somewhat that ghouls only get upwards to 3 with more powerful dominators and even then can't spam disciplines because terrible blood pool. May have one physically stronger than a Kindred if they were already a specimen when they got ghouled.
Can the shit stirrer stop replying to himself with all of these fake games in an effort to drown out the actual conversation about the actual games that this actual general is actually about?Do we need to create another new thread for fake WoD containment?
>>97117134>create another threadI'd hope not, there's already 5 WoD threads on this board and I feel like there's already plenty of discussion in others already covered on this one
>>97117134>dude make a threadHey, kill yourself. That isn't the answer. Besides only one shit head thinks in terms of containment threads concerning this thread.
>>97117031>>Only becomes a full on furry werewolf if he does it too muchTo elaborate with the help of a visual aid >>97117084 , imagine 3 states: fully human, skin-changed, and fully wolf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolf>If they abstain from tasting human flesh while wolves, they will be restored to human form nine years later; if they do not abstain, they will remain wolves forever.https://www.tumblr.com/maverick-werewolf/179127531287/random-werewolf-fact-25-how-to-cure-lycanthropy>This is the case in Norse legends such as the tale of Sigmund and Sinfjotli, who donned wolf skins and became wolves until they managed to get those skins off again. It was also the case with Melion, who put on a cursed ring and became stuck in a wolf form.
>>97117031 >>97117168Basically, hunters and mages are fully human, just more dedicated to their craft than most. Vampires and werewolves start as humans, but their inward monstrosity transforms into outward monstrosity.
How many minor templates can a Mage (Ascension) have? Sorcerer, Kinain, Kinfolk, Ghoul..?
Drawfag back with an update on this trio of Black Spirals creeping out from a gnarled screaming tree!
>>97117201Changelings and Demons are fully inhuman but Changeling: the Forsaken and Demon: the Reckoning both include detailed systems for describing the spectrum of heredity.
>>97117145>5 WoD threads on this boardI only count three. What are the other two?
>>97117267gnarly.
>>97117201>>97117281But what's the deal with Mummy: the Sin-Eaters and Wraith: the Ascension? We know that self-mummification was practiced by Buddhist monks in Japan, so does this have any implications for the "praxis" versus "essence" dichotomy?
>>97116503>Deviant: the AwakeningHeh, this sounds like when I first discovered hentai.
>>97117267nice
>>97117267Nice lighting on the muzzle!
>>97117284>Two RP threads I did ask for Hunter RP >Wodg>WTA (sadly)>White Wolf threadI guess if you wanted to count only non RP it would be three
>>97116969Because you're a vampire.
>>97117267Very kino thank you drawanon
>>97117322You could probably make an Aztec mummy with a connection to Tlazōlteōtl.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaz%C5%8Dlte%C5%8Dtl
>>97116503Why is it called Vampire: the Oblivion?
>>97117436Lasombra expansion
>>97117461>>97117436I assume this means that they are tampering with abyssal powers, tempting Final Death.
>>97116503>Some autist took the format of my post and is now spamming it every threadAnd this shit doesn't even make any sense.>How would Anonymous react to Beast: the Resurrection?>Consult the following>???Consult WHAT? Nothing is explained?In my original post, I was just trying to generate HtR discussion and LISTED sourcebooks to ACTUALLY CONSULT instead of just lazily remixed titles.Now I know how the Fae feel about the Autumn People. Just aping pathetically along, no originality whatsoever.>>97116503And for the record, go fuck yourself. I hope this clears things up.
>>97114301>When STing non-changeling splatsI usualy include little to no crossover, unless it's funny or the players search for fae in character. >When STing changelingAll crossovers are at best comedic relief due to how utterly fucked CtLs powerscale is in comparisson to everyone else. A woof, for example, has no defence against someone who can just decide to be silver or to be no longer part of linear time. Also no antagonist can compare to the pillar men tier absurdity of the Gentry and their anti-logical plots to steal a city or win a baking contest against grandma jones famous peach pie (might even be the same plot).>when playing non changeling splatsI don't search for crossover, but when the ST offers it, i bite and WILL come to completly wrong conclusions about the splat in character to not metagame.>when playing changelingSame as above. Last ctl game we hire-gaslit a pack of woofs to act as cannon fodder-stormtroopers when we scout-assaulted a drug plantation in the Hedge. Most of them even survived although another player and i competed for ownership over a young woof we both wished to exploit as unpaid intern (me because i needed him to keep my maid-hostage company and help me harvest my moon cocaine fields in my Hollow in the Hedge of the actual moon, he because he wanted to torment him even further and so i won't have him, i think) (said youngling became a woof because one player shot him in the chest with a shotgun for reasons and we memed that it would be funny for the teen to survive and return as a woof).
>>97115800Survival of the Cringiest.
>>97117267Y000000
>>97115013No shit, Sherlock. It's almost as if most of the people who post here consistently are mainly here out of inertia or because they have been banned from other places.
>>97117879>All crossovers are at best comedic relief due to how utterly fucked CtLs powerscale is in comparisson to everyone else. A woof, for example, has no defence against someone who can just decide to be silver or to be no longer part of linear time.It is weird how they threw balance out the window with that template. I'm not sure if it was just a counter movement because of how we had pretty shit contracts but the Pledge System was busted in 1e.
>>97117955It's balanced around the Gentry, iron being everywhere and PCs having problems that can't be solved by throwing glamour at it (attracts Huntsmen and Gentry). Also contracts no longer being dirt cheap and instead being mostly fairly priced is something to consider. The biggest offender in ctl2e are curses though. If you aren't prepared to take Fae literally in CofD you get royaly fucked.That all splats have their limits and downsides is also not helping things. But the downsides of being a vampire don't need further explanation here. It must suck to be a vamp in feud with any otger splat.
>>97117682I see where you are coming from but this level of retardation is to be expected.>>97116503Let's see if we can untangle any hooks from this mess.>Beast: the ResurrectionThis makes me think of Gheist the Sin Eaters but you made a bargain with an animal ghost rather than a human one. It could work but that has fuck all to do with either premises of either game they took their tittles from so whatever.>Changeling: the ForsakenThis one is rather interesting if you lean into the familial rejection and familicide. Like your character was swapped during early childhood and can either kill their adoptive kin or their face family before returning the taken child back to the mundane world.>Demon: the Reckoning>Deviant: the AwakeningI don't see anything that interesting here so fuck it.>Geist: the PrimordialHey dude, wanna deal with the ghost of cave men?>Hunter: the Descent>Mage: the Apocalypse>Promethean: the Requiem>Vampire: the Oblivion>Werewolf: the VigilThese themes are already covered by the original so who gives a shit?>Mummy: the Sin-EatersNon sense.>Wraith: the AscensionThe ghostly remains of the Tower of Babel are the only way to heaven and you must fight your way there. Think reverse Doom Slaying as angels keep telling to fuck off and kicking the souls back down the tower.
>>97117996>But the downsides of being a vampire don't need further explanation here. It must suck to be a vamp in feud with any otger splat.Vampires have the edge on scenarios that never come up like long term projects or social influence. They may have the easiest time with creating mass minions but honestly, who does that in game?>It's balanced around the Gentry, iron being everywhere and PCs having problems that can't be solved by throwing glamour at it (attracts Huntsmen and Gentry).Fair.
>>97117436You get immortality but you still forget most of your life like a human. Just like the game Thousand Year Old Vampire.
>>97118037>Vampires have the edge on scenarios that never come up like long term projects or social influence. They may have the easiest time with creating mass minions but honestly, who does that in game?Not to be that guy, but just in contrast with changelings (and because my job bores me greatly):- long term / social influenceChangelings can live very long lives and have ways to become true immortals. Meaning IF they want to they can play the long game. Not to mention the fucky-wucky relation the Hedge/Arcadia have with time in general.- mortal minionsGhouls require blood regularly, not just to stay ghouls, but to use their abilities as well. After a certain point its a question of time and resources spent. A changeling could slay a dragon, claim its hoard (or just spin gold from straw) and hire mercenary compa... ahem, security companies which might individualy be no match for a good ghoul, but gear and training go a long way to help against pretty much anytging that's not imune to Gun.That brings me to the one big problem all whiterooms have: scale and intentChangeling is a very open game with easy options for things others have to heavily specialize in. They lack the tankyness of a vamp or woof by default, but given a few dots in the right token or a few combat Contracts and the changeling in question can go toe to toe with the best of them, without having to neglect other things. And Contracts span a very wide array of things without needing heavy investment besides maybe having a teacher for the additional Benefits.Whiterooms are stupid anyways. Let's not fall into that autism hole.
>>97117955Honestly I keep seeing people say that 1e pledges were busted but I haven't had that experience. I think it's a white roomer problem. That, or it's a doormat ST problem, one who makes NPCs too gullible and/or cooperative. You need to be slick to trick an NPC into a pledge that benefits you at their expense, and you need to be a good negotiator to convince NPCs into mutually beneficial pledges. Why? Because the devil is quite literally in the details and a seemingly beneficial pledge could be worded in such a way as to screw you over. One fun thing to do is to write the pledge down verbatim but only the ST can look at it, it requires Int + Composure rolls for the PCs to recall the exact wording. That way there's a very real risk of the PC breaking their own pledge by accident. Pledges are fine, I like Changelings as the very human fragile template filled with specialists at very odd and specific things. When they leverage those specific powers well they're immensely tricky to deal with.The 1e Changeling template was really close to perfection IMO. It needed a few little changes but instead they went in a wildly different direction with the entire template to start dick measuring with DaveB and that makes me sad. Sucked most of the character I enjoyed out of the splat.
>>97118037Aren't mages also pretty long lived? WoD cross splatting has never really been balanced anyway but I think a cool bit of assymetric balance can make a fun campaign. Seems like something you'd do for a long campaign though or with a like a huge threat. Could not imagine being an ST and then running 4-5 times the characters to manage the different social circles of every pc
>>97118485>Aren't mages also pretty long lived?The primary weakness of mages is supposed to be their hubris. Those whose lives aren't cut short by their arrogance should have it impact their lives in some other terrible way that they shouldn't be able to fix without confronting their pride.
>>97118485>Aren't mages also pretty long lived?If they're skilled enough? Yeah.
>>97118597>>97118671Maybe they should stop to think about whether they should rather than if they can when they consider turning the Vampire into a lawn chair, making a Garou into a pet, or making a ghost slushie with Wraith ectoplasm
>>97114301>For Changeling players: How often do you deal with cross splat shenanigans?When I ran Changeling the Lost, I found a Slasher to make a great antagonist for an arc, and I also like the intersection of Vampire and Changeling when it comes to a political-themed chronicle.
>>97118136>Whiterooms are stupid anyways. Let's not fall into that autism hole.Yeah but that's just a way to get the broad strokes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) from most interactions without saying stuff like "on average..."White rooms happen because most people are basically incapable of telling their game stories in a interesting manner or get decent answers for more mechanical questions.
>>97118356Oh yeah it's mostly "people" parroting shit in relation to a game they, probably, never played enough to see how it usually works. Like there are some blatant bullshit things in old games but we never hear about those being exploited, because even people with room temperature, in Celsius, IQs are capable of working out a more reasonable outcome for the game.
>>97118720>turning the Vampire into a lawn chair, making a Garou into a pet, or making a ghost slushie with Wraith ectoplasmDisgusting, everyone RDs should be terminated in a calm and orderly fashion
>>97118485Much like how long lived vampires are balanced out by torpor, long lived mages are balanced out by permanent paradox.
>>97117682>Consult WHAT? Nothing is explained?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQbBzOvPBpc
>>97118015>Hey dude, wanna deal with the ghost of cave men?Do you not?
>>97116503>Promethean: the RequiemAs if life as a revived assemblage of corpses wasn't bad enough...
>>97118816Technocrat-kun don't pretend you're any better>>97118825Paradox is relative. A mage should just be able to Astral project into his office
>>97117394>WTA (sadly)Oh wow I thought people stopped already with splitting threads.>>97117267Amazing as always, anon! Keep up with the good work!
>>97119162They did, but every time the thread hits page 8-9 someone bumps it back to page 1
>>97119162The wta thread is more of a zombie thread that's been there for a few weeks, so it's not like the thread splitting is actively going on
>>97117084Let me guess: red (vampire), orange (werewolf), yellow (mummy), green (changeling), blue (mage), violet (Promethean).
>>97119392No, it's the verse order because on of the editors Shat the order.
>>97119416Are you posting via talk-to-text?
>>97119428Yes, it's less scuffed than the rubber pen. My fingertips hurt like hell ass is.
>>97117098It also neatly simplifies the cosmology. Instead of multiple different worlds, they are different frequencies/states. You can even rig a radio transmitter to send and receive messages from wraiths.
>>97119473Stop that shit. Get a proper computer.
The antidiluvians have returned, millions must die.
Someone just threw a plastic bottle out of their diesel truck, I'm literally going fucking insane right now
>>97119541>t. SabbatThere are no such things as Antidiluvians
>>97119604>t. Calmest woof around
>>97119604Hey, no, stop just calm down, don't do it. Don't murder that working class single mother of 5 just because of some guy throwing plastic bottles
>>97119863>>97119604Sometimes I wonder if telling a Garou to calm down works like it does to rile them up or if they actually calm down
>>97119604Kill him, Johnny.Kill them all.
>>97119799Shhhh. No one mention the week of nightmares...
>>97119604Do it for the plot.>>97120095Those were just nukes.
>>97119604Someone shoot this dude, just in case.,
Always remember that dubs are trips are the messengers ways of directing you while shitposting. And quads are always posted by mages.
>>97120211>He dubbedChecked.What did the Messengers mean by this?
Starting work on a campaign writeup for HtV. Unfortunately I write my notes mid-session on an envelope and it is illegible, but the broadstrokes will be correct. It'll be presented as a mishmash of journals from NPCs and the PCs as the campaign proceeds. Pic related is from one of the earlier sessions, before my BBEG is aware of the PCs existence. I think the final effort will be collated by some as-yet third party to provide a sembelance of context.
>>97120273Very cool
>>97118939>Read splatbooks that don’t existRetard.
>>97120211>>97120244Why haven’t you killed your local elected official yet? They’re clearly the pawn of monsters.
>>97120095>the week of nightmares happened at his tableISHYGDDT
>>97120685The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants from time to time. Sic semper tyrannis.
>>97120945Sadly im kinda forced to play v5 and its baked into the system.
>>97120273Pretty neat. Has the bbeg run across the other PCs yet?
divis mal is a jerk
Thinking about it a Dionysian Wine Cult would be the perfect basis for a branch of the Sahajiya that works with the Spirit/Envy. "Everyone was actually just tripping balls" is a pretty good cover for spiritual possession in a controlled environment
>>97121449That's what the Fellowship of Pan is
>>97121158He has yeah, that writeup is from several months ago. He's only revealed himself as the bad guy to one PC, but the others are distrustful of him on principle because he's the only named cop in the campaign so far. I hadn't considered that angle, but they're not wrong.
>>97114301>TQYes, in one HtR game I payed in we found a Prince of the Fey that started working as a mortal cop thinking it was the funniest shit ever, but spent too much time in the mortal world and forgot who he was.We basically had to remind him of his fey-ness for him to recover his powers. He thanked us and left, but gave us a magic fey dog as reward.It looked like a himalayan mastiff and his name was Bear. He never really did much except when we found out that his bark was as loud as a thunderclap
>>97121848Another time we followed a lead about an apparent serial rapist but it was actually a Satyr that used his fey seduction bullshit powers to seduce several women into having sex with him and make a sort of harem.He argued they gave themselves to him willingly and he never hurt nobody but the game ended before we could decide what to do with him
>>97121848>get a magic fey dog>it does nothing until the moment you figure out what it does>said thing is arguably more of a detriment to the player than the enemyThat sounds like fey alright, kino
>>97121838>Forget to name any extra NPCs>First dude in a incompetent organization you name immediately outed by nature of having a namePattern seeking brain at work>>97121877If it was genuine fey seduction, yeah he's sort of asking for the rope depending on what version of Hunter you're running. Still though, that's a crazy arc
>>97121887Bear was a very good dog. We never took him on missions so we never found out the extent of his powers but apart from the super loud bark he could apparently teleport at will and was *probably* immortal but we never wanted him to get hurt so we never found out
>>97121904It was Hunter the Reckoning but our ST really loved feys so we faced them often. Another time we helped a bunch of tooth fairies recover their eggs that were stolen by some bad dudes to grind them into fey-drugs or something.On another HtR campaign from the same ST we also killed Shia LaBeuf, the actor, because it turns out in our ST's world, Shia LaBeuf was a Windigo
>>97121929>It was Hunter the Reckoning but our ST really loved feys so we faced them often. Another time we helped a bunch of tooth fairies recover their eggs that were stolen by some bad dudes to grind them into fey-drugs or something.Ha, that's awesome. Fey have always been underused in the games I've been in. Tell me more about your weird fairy encounters.
Rate my character ideaCadmonAn immortal Dark Ages Hermetic created by alchemy.Str 4Dex 2Sta 2Cha 2Mani 2App 2Perc 2Int 5Wits 3Mostly Knowledge & Physical Skills, inept in most Social situationsModus 1Anima1Primus 1Vires 1Merits:>Immunity 14 (can only be destroyed by an unmaking ritual with him inside the cauldron that birthed him)>Fount 5>Light Sleeper 3 (Doesn't require sleeperFlaws:>Construct 2>Witchwalk (energizing aura, colors are clearer, lights brighter, a little less fatigue in people beside him) 2 >Lustful 3 (more "dumb around pretty girls & easily duped" than "horny retard"He was made by an aging hermetic who passed away sortly after. He was an experiment to create Adam Cadmon. He's a strong man with a very basic understanding of Hermeticism. He has recently found that he is indestructible & that while humans need to sleep he has no such restrictions. He is a continuously energized being, a burgeoning mote of magic wrapped in flesh. He's very young in mind & experience though he is already a century old lingering around the overgrown tower hovel of his dead master where he gardened & read books until recently heading out to see the world.
>>97121906>>97121929>He got psyoped by the Fey into a useless rewardI would too, for a good dog. Don't feel bad anon>Shia LaBeouf a WendigoKino, I wonder how he worked that one out. Seems like a fun game>>97121963Imo the problem with fey is not running into DnD lol-so-quirky-so-randumb logic where you have a quirkster wholesome chungus until you mess up their quirk and suddenly they try to kill you or something. Zebra Girl handled it pretty well>Quirky Fey creatures>They're genuinely trying to eat you /scam you/ jew you but they're good chaps about itToo much reliance on visual Fey and not enough Fey tricks and word play sort of stuff. Other than that, I feel like strong Fey are about the most OP shit a hunter can run into without running into a Methuselah, Anti, or Archmage.And the odds of running into actual powerful fey is well over 10 x the other strong versions of splats They're definitely underused in video games though
How do I get my lasombra dominator to like me?
>>97121963Unfortunately that was years ago so most details are foggy.We also hunted down and killed a sort of monkey-like thing with an impossible name from Australian folklore, if that counts as a fey.We also met a Titan from Greek mythology. Apparently someone was trying to forcefully awaken another and if that happened the world might have gone to shit, but the game ended before we could progress much in that story.The ST was very inspired and creative with adventures to give us, but eventually other reasons made us drop the game
>>97122005Howcan you grab immunity 14? Also>Witchwalk is a flawSeems pretty interesting though
>>97121848Sounds like Mouse from the Dresden Files
>>97122010Make her respect your strength by flipping her into missionary and mating press next time>>97122014Bummer anon, sounds like some kino games. I haven't been able to get any games off the ground recently
Does anyone have Tending The Flame, for Hunter: the Vigil 2e?It's not in any of the links
>>97122008>Kino, I wonder how he worked that one out. Seems like a fun gameTo be clear we are talking about actual Wendigo not the werewolf tribe of the same name.We didn't even know at the start, we stumbled upon a ransacked cottage in a forest and when we entered to look inside we found the monster busy eating some people. We fought, he escaped, we tracked him to another cottage and ambushed him. When we killed the Wendigo it reverted to its original human form and we found out it was Shia LaBeuf.It was just a very self contained short adventure made for laughs
>>97122034Read the OP
>>97122017Don't you just spend freebies on that sort of stuff? 15+7 from flaws
>>97122048Honestly, the difference between Wendigo (tribe) and real Wendigo is a bit nebulous considering the cannibalism, but oh well. Very neato>>97122075Spending all of your freebies for this sounds kind of mental though
>>97122048Never did like WTA using Wendigo on a werewolf tribe when the actual Wendigo is extremely fomori-esque. A spirit of hunger possessing someone and turning them into a monster with a point of no return? That's a Fomori.
>>97122094From what little I know about what they were aiming for, they wanted to showcase amerindian lore in a more positive light than the other myths but anything below the american border was free game.
>>97122135But the Wendigo is an evil creature in native folklore, it's not like you're taking a benevolent entity and making it evil. Not to mention the Wendigo are the assholes of the three native American tribes.
>>97122094I always thought real Wendigos would be sort of Fomori-esque too, what with the exposed moose skull typically. Would definitely be a cool Fomori enemy, could even make them a sort of pre-BSD BSD for Wendigo(the tribe)>>97122135>Amerindian>We make Wendigos normal dudes who turn into dogs, but they EAT DUDES LOLThe Silver Fang were totally in their right to genocide the natives, despite the micropenis
>>97122083Yeah but it's pretty cool to be an immortal dude who can't really be killed. So he's weak at magic but he can take crazy risks at the same time.
Seems like we're having a new Lead Game Designer in "White Wolf"...
>>97122251>Make games more accessibleWhy does it happens every time bros, this is the guy who's going to finish Mage and Changeling 5
>>97122251So this is how they're appeasing the huehues. Ultimately I wouldn't think too much of this. This guy is probably just there to rubber stamp whatever low effort stuff Paradox wants put out. Given how poorly BL2 did, I wouldn't be surprised if they just quietly finish their docket over the next two years and don't greenlight anything new.
>>97122332>>97122317The HueHues have a divided opinion on this man: While some like him for his work in BR TTRPG community, others think he's not that much of a good choice 'cause he's specialized in OSR and he's into those shitty minimalist systems. So be ready for a WoD5.5 system or something on these lines.
>>97122353>OSR guy>For the "worst aspects of narrativist systems" WoD5>Also a minimalistLol. Lmao. Kek even. But more to the point, there's no way in hell they'd greenlight another edition, right? Overhauling the core mechanics of a game edition while it's still running isn't really possible, so this guy's just gonna have to kick sand and try to minimalize any future gamelines they do, which I still think is a massive if.
>>97122353>So be ready for a WoD5.5 system or something on these lines.Even in a best case scenario it is going to be a nothingburger.
My hunter game starts soon, any tips for what kind of enemies they should face? I was thinking ghosts and ghouls first, then moving to cryptids using Hosts rules and Fomori inspired lore, then daemonic cults using second sight and daemon the fallen lore, then moving on to Vampires and Technocracy mages assassinations, with an Earthbound as the big bad they must prevent from awakening
>>97122487As always, specify which Hunter. >Hunter's Hunted>Reckoning>Vigil>H5
>>97122487early game you could use rots/zombies? maybe tie it into a wraith or something causing them to pop up
>>97122495sorry, forgotVigil, the players preferred the bigger emphasis on normal humans
>>97122251>that last lineOh, fuck.
>>97122516Slashers are very good early game hunter enemies. Ghouls are fine as well but come with the implication of having a vampiric master. A ghost hunt is always a good way to have a less physical, fight-oriented hunt. I'd also suggest coming up with a few custom 1-2 supernatural potency monsters for early hunts. Check out nWoD Immortals and Skinchangers for other fun "low level" supernatural threats. One thing you could do is have the PCs fight a very young vampire, possibly after taking out their Ghoul. This can serve two purposes. First, it teaches them that some monsters have massive weaknesses they will NEED to exploit to get a clean win (sunlight/daysleep), and two, cause them to underestimate how dangerous vampires actually are, so you can catch them off guard with a stronger one later on.If you want to homebrew technofaggotry, go ahead, but you'll have to homebrew it. I have zero advice on that front, never liked Mage. As for an Earthbound, you can approximate one fairly well with a sufficiently powerful Inferno demon, I would know because that's what my ST used.
>>97122586Being an "Anarch at heart" while lowering your head to a souless corporation is peak comedy.
>>97122487Statistically, Mannikins are the most populous supernatural in the world of darkness because White Wolf sucks at maths Having mannequins in an abandoned department store come to life and attack could be a cool setpiece, plus creepy dolls are a horror staple.
>>97122717>Mannikins are the most populous supernatural in the world of darknessLooks like it's time for rape.
>>97122727why did they make this so sensual
>>97122699That's all Anarchs in 2025 thoughbeit
>>97122727>The Garou have to this easy and just done do itThey're clearly not retarded, just conservative
>>97121877>a lead about an apparent serial rapist but it was actually a Satyr that used his fey seduction bullshit powers to seduce several women into having sex with him and make a sort of haremHey, its almost like the one in HtR: Urban Legends where an Unseelie Satyr was targeting lonely housewives, too. And then murdering them and eating their organs.
>>97122831>Spoiler And this is why we ebrace banality
>>97122717So is going to the mall just a mess of an experience for an imbued? Second Sight must be hell.
>>97122831>Not all Satyrs or something like thatI'm totally an Autumn Person like you guys>>97122843Maybe if you guys could produce more glamour instead of needing to get off on Guro for glamour
>>97122831Despite being less than 10% of the changeling population, satyrs commit over 50% of all rapes.
>Setites claim that Set was embraced about 7000 years ago, trying to fit into a more conventional "history of egypt" timeframe.>The older Methuselah like Baba Yaga or Ur-Shulgi are supposed to be 8000 years old AT MINIMUM, their true age is probably closer to 10,000. Make it make sense. Or are the Gangrel correct that Set is just a wayward childe of Ennoia?
>>97123137>Make it make sense.The writers are dumb.
>>97123137>7000 years ago>When Cleopatra was closer to modernity than to the building of the pyramids>Set would have been before pyramidsCould be either or, more than likely it's just retards not having all the facts. I mean, Setites have never even met Set. One of those "don't meet your heroes" moments. It's perfectly okay for a faction to be wrong or have the wrong idea, you read WtA and every book gives you a different valid interpretation of the timeline and who's fault everything going to shit was and why Garou nation is failing and whatever. Factions/groups can be wrong, especially one which is borderline an independent cult separate from the main Vampire groups
>>97119416How did this affect the fans' perceptions of the lines?
>>97123148yeah yeah, unreliable narrators, no shit Mr. Buzzkill. I wanted to dunk on Set for being a little baby. But there's always some asshole like you condescendingly explaining basic shit like it's some great revelation.
>>97116503What did everyone think of the Mummy: the Sin-Eaters game by Antimony Electronics? It may be my favorite open-world action R.P.G. of all time.
>>97119604You must avenge the desecration of our Mother Gaia.
>>97123166>make it make sense>no I wanted to dunk on Set for being a little babyIf you weren't gay you would already know Set's a gay tsundere and the ministry is pants-on-head
>>97119474https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLud8xNw0kcxpTBTLBl49YOp_mXMnR5br5This also means that the world is potentially teeming with invisible entities. If you can attain the right vibrations, you can even smite them.
>>97123137I think the easiest way to square it is that is the date when Set, actual divinity and effectively multiple master mage, manages some tricksy shenanigans to both be a vampire and a divine (and thus effectively a damn powerful mage). Unfortunately, in a real 'missing the semen on the lettuce' moment the trick he does to balance this state ties his divinity to eventually fall into the underworld, still technically whole but spiritually separated in very poor accordance with his view of the afterlife. So he spends some time as 'just' a third generation vampire laying down some Setitie Sorcery and setting up the whole resurrection thing for his clan-cult.Which if it did succeed would leave him with a new, nasty surprise - having to skedaddle to the further parts of the Umbra lest the fallen nature of the world permanently scar his divinity.
>>97123215>couldn't even finish his post.Dumbass. Also, you didn't even make it make sense, you gave the most generic non-answer possible. "Oh the setites are wrong", yeah no shit.
>>97121929>grind them into fey-drugshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljXz9r97M3E
>>97123227>magefaggotryI'm regretting asking in the first place. Okay how about the fact this fag embraced 15 people that we know about, one of whom was a Mokole abomination. That's gotta be a record in terms of quantity of embraces by a 3rd gen.
>>97121929>Shia LaBeuf was a Windigohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI
>>97123227>>97123137Set is a vampire-mummy
>>97123304>>97123227Weren't Mummies (or at least some of them) Awakened mages or were they always just mid-tier sorcerers?>>97123283>Mokole abominationBet that went down well
Judging by the state of the world it's safe to say so much for being le protectors of le earth, eh woofs?
>>97123333Set specializes in Bane Mummies which are evil counters to the regular Amenti
>>97123345Average Garou response:>Damn kinfolk just don't put out enough
>>97122717https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9HcoctuYc
Guys some asian kindred came to the court and claimed to be a kuei-jin, is she full of it?
>>97123377>rape
>>97123278>Slop
>>97117281I could have sworn that there was an option to transition into them too. Was it in a supplement or maybe in a revised edition?
>>97123412>transition into a changelingImagine explaining this to a Doctor archetype from Genius: the Transgression
>>97118015>This one is rather interesting if you lean into the familial rejection and familicide.I wonder if the fetch and the stolen could team up...
>>97123377>she Yeah.
>>97123414I'm sure that it would make sense to a Princess.
>>97123377Thaumaturgy Path of Blood dot 1 & some legwork can solve that. Maybe Auspex too
>>97118015I thought Beasts was about the dream rapists, not literal animals>>97123417Why did they use best girl's model (Jap slut Hunter) for this creature's?
>>97123436I ain't asking a tremere for shit. Worst guys to owe a favor to.
>>97123419Are Meguca's just retarded changelings?
>>97123443Please don't make fun of one of the most uplifting and emotional splats ever penned.
>>97123437>I thought Beasts was about the dream rapists, not literal animalsWhy not both?
>>97123443lol i snorted
>>97123451But enough about Geist: the Primordial.
>>97118084Isn't that what torpor does?
>>97123438You don't have Auspex? Just ask her to make a ghoul and if she can't she's a kuei-jin
>>97123451I've never played Princess, it seems cute but I figure most of us are into WoD/CofD for the edge. I was just making a small joke about how Magical Girls live in their own little delusional bubble (like changelings) and draw power from the emotions of the people/themselves/their friends in most media. I wouldn't say I was "making fun" of princess, using meguca alone would imply I like Madoka Magica
>>97123438Then don't be so useless. What are you good for? Spare parts?
>>97123477>You don't have Auspex?Best I can do is sniff them while in wolf form.
>>97123224How high does a mummy's Azoth have to be to do that and how many points of Plasm does it cost?
>>97123502>fucking GangrelJust go fuck the dogs man, I know what you want to do. Anyway, I don't know, go smell her life aura or something. Kue-Jin are supposed to have actual aura>>97123489This is actually pretty cool artwork
>>97123502Yep. I knew it. Spare parts. Don't you understand you'd be better off as a gargoyle?
>>97123502Disgusting, shameful.
>>97122498>rots/zombiesThey feel a little hard to use in campaigns that focus on the "secret world" aspect of WoD, how do I use zombies without them breaking the masquerade.>>97122592>SlashersWas kinda going to go with their fomori equivalent, which at least feels more supernatural than "Just Michael Miyers">I'd also suggest coming up with a few custom 1-2 supernatural potency monsters for early hunts. Check out nWoD Immortals and Skinchangers for other fun "low level" supernatural threats.will do thanks manyou hit the nail on the head with everything else, it's basically what my plans are
>>97123577>without breaking the masqueradeHave it be separate. Zombie source could be an entirely man made fuck up.
>>97122487Random coterie of literal who sabbat/random vamps is king I think
WoDpocalypse: Gauntlet Sundered>>>/qst/6342886Cyberpunk Fairytale: Changeling in The Neo-South>>>/qst/6343057
>>97123597I've never actually done /qst/ shit before, though I followed a neat DnD one around before. Is this just bootlegging an adventure together?
>>97123610https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForumQuest
>>97122592another question, best nWoD splat to stat cultists of oWoD Demons (The Fallen)?
>>97123623Core book mortals.
>>97123577>how do I use zombies without them breaking the masquerade.IIRC normal humans couldn't see rots in oWoD, the HtR versions anyway. They had some kind of perception filter shit, like people'd think they were homeless schizos or guys tripping on PCP instead of noticing that they were dead.
The voices in my walls told me this is the true history, which is being suppressed by the watchers, whom are controlling world governments through their bird-man proxies. The bird-men are semi divine beings from antediluvian Cisenandia, who were defeated by the first makers, who themselves were an intelligent race that evolved during the late Permian period and were genetically resurrected by Nordic aliens from the Pleiades. The resurrected first makers created the watchers, who in turn uplifted humanity’s aquatic ape ancestors, the “first kin” of which ate mushrooms from the Seventh Garden of Sipuresh, granting temporal control over space and time to their cousins the Australopithecus. This is why we have to go to work and pay taxes, or don’t. When the Terminians return from the Aether beyond the great ice wall, humanity will be taken to a garden world on the other side of the universe, where the evils of taxation will cease
>>97123345Humanity's gotten too big for them to be able to protect the world from mankind. They've saved the world from the Wyrm on multiple occasions, but when they're outnumbered five hundred thousand to one by Gaia-raping humans, there's only so much good they can do and it's not enough to combat all of the bad.
>>97123516>Just go fuck the dogs manJoke all you want but some lupine girls are freaky when not trying to rip your head off.
>>97123833Should have embraced humanity when they were only city level and had the knot tax>>97123841>lupine girlsI know better, but sure. Let's go with that.
>>97123880>Let's go with that.Variety is the spice of unlife my friend.
for dark ages, should a high animal ken character be able to tell if something is off/too intelligent about a wolf/cat/other fera in beast form? would you consider 4 dots enough?
>>97124246I would absolutely allow that. Animal Ken would involve knowing what behavior/level of intelligence is normal for an animal.
>>97123417>Gaijin are unaware of the Yulan-jin>Gaijin are ignorant of the Path of a Thousand WhispersA most shameful display.
How to score Thallain pussy?
Tonight I dreamt i was hunting demons and people at my job (monster hunters) got mad because apparently a demon of sloth i killed was a coworker's boyfriend.I remember being super mad because I was at risk of losing my job because I did my job correctly.Anyway this is to say I think my dreams are telling me I should look for a Hunter game to join
Rank splats from legitimately cool guys to most reddit mod tier?
>>97124438That’s the neat part. They’re all legitimately cool guys if you don’t take the meme takes on here seriously.
>>97124438Most cool guys are unironically Mummies, I'd think with a gradient towards Wraiths
>>97124438Ranking only those I have experience with from coolest to cringiest >Hunter the Reckoning >Werewolf the apocalypse>Vampire the Masquerade>Changeling the dreaming>Mage the ascension
>>97124366Nah, that's some First Team kind of bullshit.
>>97123345Average W in a never-ending cycle of Weaver Ws. Shouldn't have fucked witm mommy's favorite race ;)
>>97124858MummiesWraithChangelingsSons of EtherWerewolvesVampiresTechnocracyPentexLillith
>>97123793Thank, stealing this bit.Speaking of stealing, I've just recently gotten Call of Cthulhu (gonna run the obligatory Haunting for my group once we're done with the current campaign), and the sheer mass of content across different rulesets, time-periods makes me wonder if anyone's here has ever ported over stuff. The short adventures that I've read all read as fairly easily convertable for use in the nWoD/CoD, (with Delta Green looking especially minable for Hunter, Mage and even Deviant) but I'm curious if anyone's ever attempted to WoD-ify the great epics like Masks of Nyarlatothep or the Two-Headed Serpent.
Are brujah girls good for you?
>>97124319Do you have a big Fomorian dick?
>>97125123Why Technocracy and Lilith so low?
>>97126098>Changelings and Chuds of Ether that highClearly a superstitionalist
>you must be careful with revealing your clan because your enemies might gain insight into how you behave and exploit your weaknes->wears red all the time and never leaves home without slut glasses
>>97126242>you must be careful with revealing your clan because your enemies might gain insight into how you behave and exploit your weaknes->smells like wet garbage and growls at people when they pass by
>>97126242I never understood that shit, maybe 50% of the time it's blatantly obvious, 40% it's a toss up between two or three clans, and the last 10% it just doesn't matter, kindred are kindred.
>>97126242>you must be careful with revealing your clan because your enemies might gain insight into how you behave and exploit your weaknes->looks like a half-melted animal
>>97126242>Nice glasses, clan?>Ravnos (Lasombra), I stole them off a Tremere (Another Ravnos who bought them because they looked cool)
>>97126242>you must be careful with revealing your clan because your enemies might gain insight into how you behave and exploit your weaknes->looks like a 6'4" blonde haired blue eyed Aryan chad wearing a business suit
>>97126098>>97126111Changelings do less harm than Mages, Werewolves, Vampires, etc. & they fight for thr whimsy, nonsense, & great heroic tales that allow us to dream of great truths like justice & honor. Sure, they're churlish & puerile & a papercut from a W-2 might poison them, but they are good guys.>>97126098Technocracy are dicks & created all the ills of the modern world. The don't do as much harm as Pentex though. Maybe I should have at least put them above Vampires. Lilith is the first sinner. Lilith is the murderer of babies & mothers. Lilith birthed every monster known to man from between her whore legs. She is without God's grace or love, & hates Adam & all his children.
>>97125588Vampire bitches can't get wet, they just bleed on your dick.
>>97124319There's a bit in one of the books where an unseelie sidhe has a literal hands free orgasm from spying on a vampire feeding. Unseelie bitches love the fangs.
>>97126323>Uses Auspex>5'3" Brown Indian wearing ragsDamn Ravnos, every time
>>97126343Source me up
>>97126271Noss, Cappadocian, Samedi, Gangrel and Lasombra are obvious but the rest is I'm not seeingAnd even Lasombra weakness can be found on other vampires as a flaw
>>97126491Yeah those Nagaraja & those Gargiyles are real hard to spot
>>97126565IIRC Nagaraja unless they have that straight up shark maw flaw can hide well but I might be wrong on thisI forgot about Gargoyles but the point is still true in that majority of clans/bloodlines can hide what they are
Between Maeghars, Balli & Cult of Osiris, & such, what's the most mongrel Kindred that could theoretically exist? I dont plan on using it in game, just a thought experiment.
>>97126640A Maeghar turned Cult of Osiris turned Baali.His discipline spread is Mytherceria, Bardo and Daimonion
>>97126242>you must be careful with revealing your clan because your enemies might gain insight into how you behave and exploit your weaknes->always has at least two snakes on their person
>>97126242Tremere flaunt their shit because they aren't a real clan with a real clan weaknessAlso>you must be careful with revealing your clan because your enemies might gain insight into how you behave and exploit your weaknes->bricks all technology by walking near it
>>97126330>Changelings are the good guysClearly you haven't been raped by a Satyr with a 10 inch horse cock because you got salty at work
>>97126640>>97126650Make him an abomination + sorcerer while you're at it, maybe make him bane possessed for maximum Mongrel Kindred
>>97126330>Technocracy are dicks & created all the ills of the modern worldAre we actually pretending that the world was better when the traditions were in power? Working in a wage cage is 100 times better than being some mage lord's bitch.
>>97126744The great thing about the Dreaming is that IT ISN'T FUCKING REAL TO NORMAL PEOPLE. This means that Satyrs with 10 inch horse cocks are entirely optional! There is no manic pixie dream girl who's a real fairy with elf ears who'll kidnap you to her sad emo mushroom dream realm behind the village funeral director's family painting! And for me, that's a better world.
>>97126765I was hoping to mongrelize his clans more than give him extra splats. Something like + Tremere with the Vicissitude merit & the salubri merit. I could have sworn there was at least one more fucked up bloodline/adoptive clan i could fit in there
>>97126857>The great thing about the Dreaming is that IT ISN'T FUCKING REAL TO NORMAL PEOPLE.Good to be banality 8, makes me safe from gay farries
>>97126857>>97126919>calls upon the wyrd
>>97126839>Would rather work a 9-5 wage slave position than be some dude's bitch a total of 10 hours a weekTechnocrat shill detected>>97126857That dick's going to feel like it's 10 inch after you get your mind blasted by the changeling, the converse changeling puss will be giga grippy. Sure it won't *physically* be 10 inch or giga grippy but you'll imagine it is
>>97126953>Noooo having a job and being able to have a life outside of your job is bad! Here's why you should spend your entire life serving some mage who's gonna turn you into a chair for a laughTraditards still seething about total reason victroy
>>97126877Maeghar Lhiannan that joined the Children of Osiris then got initiated as a Baali then infiltrated the Sabbat and got infected with Vicissitude via vaulderie then underwent One of My Tribe and became a Pander.
>>97126877Better yet why not, if we're going for maximum gangrel mongrel maxing, caitiff with gangrel curse + the cannibal curse, maybe salubri like you said, vicissitude and dementation as disciplines, maybe protean.
>>97126939Careful, I may call upon a powerful entity that lurks these threads...
>>97126974Back in the feudal days you would spend less time serving the lords than you would working a 9-5
>>97127004>forgetting that's for normal sleepers and their local sleeper lordsYou think mages don't work holidays? Get real, that's when they're the most busy
>>97127004Difference is that you're doing that work for your feudal lord for free, you still need to do another full-time job if you want to eat.
>>97127058>>97127065>Wizard can just make food and shelter for you in exchange for serviceWould be a pretty shitty master if he can't provide for his servants, I don't think even slaves were treated that poorly
>invalidates your whole existence by not believing in it
>>97127131Isn’t this the main villain of every single teen movie made between the 80’s and the early 2000’s?
>>97127074And you wonder why the union of reason had a point.>>97127169Definitely the 80s. Not nearly enough of a spook for the Aughts
Where did this weird cope that the Traditions want to rule over humanity with an iron fist come from?The Traditions don't want to rule, none of the Traditions are built on a desire to dominate other humans. They want a more magical world that allows them to better pursue the perfection of their styles of magic.The downside of a world ruled by the Traditions is that it's a world full of magic and magic can be overwhelming, terrifying and hostile to humanity. It can take the form of dragons that demand regular sacrifices or terrible storms that can eradicate entire kingdoms in a night. In such a world, a mundane human has very little agency and is just a leaf in the wind, swept along by the chaos.The Technocracy are the ones interested in control and dominion and in their world, there is also very little agency, as everyone is reduced to a cog in the machine in order to maintain the Consensus.
>>97127207It's one of Shit Stirrer's classic baits.
>>9712683999% of every single person who has ever defended the Technocracy has always made excuse after excuse as to why until I inevitably pry the core of their argument out. The Internet. Motherfuckers dont want to give up the internet, its that simple. Retard would sell their soul & rent out their bodies like whores for internet & air conditioning.
>>97127207Where else did everything bad with the Traditions come from? The House of Hermes
>>97127207>none of the Traditions are built on a desire to dominate other humansThe Hermetics pretty much explicitly were, and they're the ones people usually imagine when they think mage.
>>97127207True. 90s WoD was about how shit was boring & conformist & the creative spark & wonder was dying. How paradise was being paved over to make an amusement park. All Statis. All Wyvr. All Banal. & because of that imbalance. Because they were harming the wild carefree expressions of the world, evil toxic poison was everywhere & kill the world in a tangible way
>>97127207Here's a section from the first edition on why you're supposed to hate the Technocracy. And this isn't even really in character, this is just what the writers think. Basically, they just don't like if the "masses" have power without the guidance of their "betters".
>>97127283I hate the masses of humanity and think them largely boorish and retarded. They must show merit and this skips that
>>97127226>>97127239Hermetics gatekeep magic and try to assert control over the practice of magic, they don't give much of a fuck about humanity as a whole.
>>97127223Yes, modern technology is not something I'm willing to give up.
>>97127428>Gatekeep>Girlboss>GaslightThe Tremere really are vampire Hermetics
>>97127483Anon do I have news for you. They never stopped being hermetics>>97127428So you're saying they view themselves above humanity. I see and how do humans view the things they're above?
>>97127428Hermetics are the literal jobber tradition. Imagine being mages and losing to v*mpires
>>97127568>spoilersI figured but I'd think they'd be more vampire than hermetics, rather than the other way around
>>97127428Their paradigm is about domination and control over the natural world to bend it to their will. It's not a stretch at all to say they have similar viewpoint on other people. They treat their own apprentices like shit, you think they're going to play nice with sleepers?
How many dots for a flaw that gave one a clearly unnatural skin color? Think gray or pearl white.
>>97127223>Technology...le bad!Gee, imagine wanting to live in a safe world where everything follows certain laws and principles. It's almost as if most people want to have a comfortable life without any random bullshit.
>>97128286>It's almost as if most people want to have a comfortable life without any random bullshit.People regularly take detrimental actions on the gamble of a slight chance that they'll win a jackpot. The only reason it didn't work out for the Traditions is that awakening can't be handed out like that.
>>97128307People regularly take detrimental actions on the gamble of a slight chance that they'll win a jackpot.Society already views gamblers as absolute retards. The masses want others to think for them, look at your average voter.
>>97128194Isn't this just the weird appearance flaw but spicy? That was two points I think. Disfigured?
>>97128439It's similar, but Disfigured implies bad looks (it comes with a limit to Appearance) and I was going for something unnatural but beautiful.
>>97128488Hardly a flaw then if you don't have a malus because you look freaky, but maybe you can ask your ST to make a special Disfigured version. I don't think merely have weird skin counts as a flaw for the game
>>97128286Those who would sacrifice liberty for security & comfort deserve to get fucked over for being bitches
>>97128734Ben Franklin would be a technocrat though
>>97128734You are more free in the modern society than any period in history.
Why don't the Tremere just develop their own meth in order to drive the thin bloods out of the market?
>>97128807Better yet, Tremere should develop their own Thinblood Alchemy. We can call it something spicy, like Blood Magic. Or... maybe Thamaturgy? I hate the thinblood focus in V5
>>97128827It's still funny to me the original plan for bloodlines 2 was playing as a thinblood to start. Funnier still how they pivoted to an elder.
>>97116503Does anyone here enjoy Dwarf: the Grudge or Elf: the Superior?
And I tryOh my God, do I tryI try all the timeIn this institutionAnd I prayOh my God, do I prayI pray every single dayFor revolution
>>97128862Thinblood shit is gay but honestly it would have been better than what we got, then fighting ghouls would have felt like actual gameplay instead of a waste of time that your character killing instantly
"War isn't murder, " that's what they sayWhen you're fighting the Devil, murder's okayWar isn't murder, they're called casualtiesThere ain't a veteran with a good night's sleepLet's talk about dead peopleI mean a-dead peopleThe dead don't feel honorThey don't feel that braveThey don't feel avengedThey're lucky if they got gravesCall your dead mother, ask her when she diedIt's a deathly silence on the other lineThe dead don't talk, but the children don't forgetSo in 20 short years, you could live to regret that
>>97128949I feel like nWoD would have been a lot more successful if it was full on AU fantasy land but then it'd just be DnD x WoD. WoD in Faerun could be cool but it'd probably be 9x the faggotry
>>97127790In Mage: the Awakening, the Tremere are vampires that became mages. They devour souls to maintain their immortality.
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>>97129025>The Eternal HermeticWriter's pet, but at least they're based retarded intellectuals
>>97116866Is this that game where magic was unleashed upon the world just as everything was falling apart?
>>97128949I enjoy Human: The Ally the most
>>97129025 >>97129039https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Tremere_lich
>>97128961Based on the plot leaks the thin blood stuff would have probably just been an act 1 thing anyway, you probably would have diablerized to choose your clan.
>>97129063>The AllyI much prefer Chaos Dwarf: the Slavery
>>97129101That's both cool and very Gae but that's typical Avallone style of plot and writing
>>97129125Now I'm just realizing her would have 100% found a way to put Ravel into the game if he has any significant contribution.
>>97129025>In Mage: the Awakening, the Tremere are vampires that became mages.Nah, just straight up mages who do both of the two big Left-Handed taboos, Immortality at Any Cost (Liches) and Soul-Theft (Reapers) in combination.And if they come to recruit you, it's a "join or die" scenario.
>>97129383>Tremere appears to you in WoD>He tells you join the cuck pyramid or he'll drain you dry (both ways)>Tremere appears to you in CofD>He tells you to join the cuck squad or he'll drain you dry (both ways)Hardly a difference
>>97128789Bullshit of the highest order
Gothic Horror RPGs set in your Hometown – An Intro To World Of Darknesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h1U-_JFAS8
>>97129523Tragic that these niggas have the release schedule of Africa's reunification with South America
>>97129122Why not Tiefling: the Half-Breed?
>>97129719There no Tieflings in Hammer of Darkness you silly billy. That'd be kind of an interesting one though I'd say that maybe the closest you'd get is Beastmen: the Raiding or something. Also Tieflings are kind of too much I feel for DnD. Race is mediocre-ish but it attracts every deviant under the sun
You could run Kobolds Ate My Baby with the hobgoblin rules from Changeling: the Lost.
Where would the Camarilla be without Tremere and Malks?
>>97129796Functional. Genuinely what do the Malks add if not problems? A writer's pet does not make a clan.
>>97129796Like the Ventrue could actually tardwrangle the rest of the clans if they don't shack up with uppity Mages that everyone hates
>>97129799They add madness network which is very useful for insights, most Malks aren't insane to the point of it being that detrimental
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https://www.youtube.com/@themalkavianbible
>>97129799Smart princes know how to mitigate their issues for gain. Sadly one can't do with with Tremere as they are smarter than the prince(but are still idiots).
