The craftworld to drukhari pipeline is real edition>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/>Previous thread:>>97113012>Thread question:What is your recipe for silver metallics. Why do you like it? What do you wish it was better at?
Make Flyers usable againBut actually sort of balanced.
You come across a gretchin while taking a stroll in your neighborhood. It attacks you with a moldy plank of wood with some rusty nails and a pipe gun that might work. All you have to defend yourself are an item of the last thing you ate and whatever is left on the sprue of your most recently built models.How do you fare?
>>97117040Like the literal plastic that is on there or like the actual object/parts
>>97116988I use NMM techniques with TMM paints. This one, I tried adding black ink to Vallejo Gunmetal as a base, used regular gunmetal as the transition, and highlighted with Vallejo Aluminum. I've done similar things before, but this one is rapidly becoming my favorite.
>>97117040I reckon I could hit it over the head with a plate and gouge it's eyes out with a combination of spoon and voidweaver sprue.
Let Chaos idols take this thread.
>tqI really like VMC steel, washed nuln, layer 50:50 VMC steel:stormhost, highlight aluminum, highlight stormhost>>97117040I give the gretchin a slice of the apple pie I baked today.>built from a bag of loose bits last. Hope he likes the pie
>>97116988How would you rank legions/first founding chapters in terms of martial proficiencies (I guess Black Templars can be an exception to that rule)
what color do you like your night lords trim?silver, brass or gold?
>>97117108Ask /hhg/, but to cut things short you'll get someone saying Sigismund elevates the fists to #1 and then people will point all the times he lost, the first person will say that doesn't count which will devolve into a 50 reply chain of pure spergatory.
>>97117108>Consummate close combat specialists:BA, SW>Good at close combatDA (supposed to be "good at everything"), WS>Average at close combatUM, IH, IF, RG>Comparatively bad at close combatSA
Need some inspiration on what terrain piece i should make out of this cool stick I found.
How powerful is a single spaceship, even "small ones" like destroyers and frigates?
Some fancy chairs ain't they. Has the Emperor ever offered you a chair so fancy? I think not.
>>97117153sounds fair
>>97117217Most of the imperium believes you get a seat at the Emperor's table(a sorta imperial heaven afterlife) when you die so he does kinda offer you a chair atleast. Well they believe so anyway.
>>97117159Bunch of modular ladders and platforms would make it a fun playable piece
>marine playersSO EBIN XD XD ECKS DEE FOR THE EMPERXDER ECKS DEE
>>97117217>putting Nurgle next to Tzeentch>putting Khorne next to Slaanesh>not putting a thick pulsing dragon dildo on Slaanesh's throneTruly Chaotic
My dorfs are coming today.
>>97117367Nice
>>97117367I'll be coming too. Probably to gentle femdom. I'll paint some tau models after that.
>>97117083Why would someone choose chocolate brown as the "reveal" colour in their weathering scheme? It makes it look like an easter bunny underneath. Or sculpted Poo Poo I guess.
>>97117389I think it's supposed to be old and rusted.
>>97117369I'm very excited. I already have the scheme and even a backstory tied to it. It's gonna be a good weekend.>>97117373Good for you. I'm gonna be a neet this weekend. Gonna listen to audiobooks and work on my dorfs.
>>97117120I like all my chaos trim more silvery brass than gold. My favorite metallic for it is canoptek alloy with nuln oil and agrax.
>>97117120Runelord brass highlighted with canoptek alloy or AK Bronze (GW alternative is Hashut Copper I think) if you want a more grimdark look.
>>97117469Runelord/canoptek is my go-to too. I also do a nice wash of agrax after the runelord base. It gives it such a nice tone.
>>97117373>Taufag is into submissive fetishes You can't make it up.
Working on the blood vial effect for these jakhals still but if I dont settle on em by the weekend I'll probably just highlight and move on to painting some ruinstorm demons I actually wanna do hah
bros I'm so tired so very tired because of worki don't know if I have the strength to paint...
>>97117480It is usually the tough guys/girls who are into submissive fetishes. Sometimes those in higher power and stressful positions of authority crave being dominated in the bedroom. Those who prefer to be dominated in the bedroom often have anxiety around sex and would rather have someone else assume the dominant role to take the pressure off them. Submission in the bedroom can be an indication of needing to feel intensely vulnerable and desired during sex, which can often be associated with an anxious attachment style. Conversely, those who prefer the dominant role in the bedroom may be craving a sense of control due to feeling powerless in other areas of their lives, such as work or school, and could be trying to compensate for that in the bedroom. However, that's not always the case, and there are many complex reasons why a person would prefer sexual dominance over submission or vice versa.
>>97117503
>>97117159Your only honest option is a GIANT FUCKING AXE.
>The Dark Angels are one of two factions of Space Marines in Dawn of War 4 and are a fully playable faction in all game modes. Here are the key points:>During the Space Marines campaign, players will undertake missions in command of both the Blood Ravens and the Dark Angels, and they can pick which missions they want to play.>The Dark Angels have their own, playable Commanders for the Space Marines campaign: Company Master Astoran and Chaplain Ezrael.>The Dark Angels have their own unique identity and history. As Space Marines, they share core strategies, tactics, wargear, and weaponry, while still maintaining the distinctive flavor and abilities of their Chapter.>While the Blood Ravens are often engaged in smaller conflicts that require tactical finesse and sometimes involve stealth, the Dark Angels deploy their full might to the biggest battlefields. Precision strikes vs. all-out war.So Blood Ravens will have their own unique playstyle. Would be funny if BR were the next Marine chapter after Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and now Ultras to get fleshed out.And even funnier if they stole tacticool, stealth, Phobos spot from Raven Guard
where is the anti /v/ermin anon when you need him
>>97117040>All you have to defend yourself are an item of the last thing you ate and whatever is left on the sprue of your most recently built models.>How do you fare?Last thing I consumed gastronomically is a big mug of coffee, potentially dangerous objectGoing to warp the rules and say that the last model I built features most of its volume in greenstuff and I can use glass jars I keep those in to dual wield glass weapons for a set damage bonus
Have you ever had sex while dressed as a Space Marine?
>>97117533>And even funnier if they stole tacticool, stealth, Phobos spot from Raven Guard>bright tomato red suitsNot happening. They will instead have STEHL REHN strategies which put them hopelessly behind enemy lines but their few OP units will carry the day.
So total war medieval 3 was announced, not 40k.Will fatrak finally shut his channel down?
>>97117533>Company Master AstoranI predict he'll either die, go missing, or be interred in a dreadnought. Anything that results in his losing company command. He was at the top of the 3rd company prior to the Indomitus era, but he appears to have been succeeded, so he'll plausibly not pull through in this story. Unless he's pulling a Titus and returning to his old job after some years away.
>>97117569Wait another fortnight / 2 for the real show.
>>97117482I think you made a pretty nice job for the blood banks, I'd maybe only recommend hitting them with a gloss varnish later if you wanna sell the glass look more but by no means thats really necessaryWhat are you gonna use the Ruinstorm Brutes for? Chaos Spawn?.. Not familiar with WE unit roster
>>97117482What is the utility of the massive blood tubes they carry around?
>>97117567>bright tomato red suitswell Alaitoc has bright suits too and they are the stealth Eldar>>97117585it does sound like they picked up some throw away characters for DAngels so they can kill them off if need be
Army for this vibe?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOAbkMxCyw
We back?
We back
phew, was scared we were hacked again
fucking hell
The machine perseveres.
>>97117588Yeah just chaos spawn. I snagged these in a super lucky ebay pull back in summer. They're recasts Im pretty sure but cant compare myself.
>>97117668Oh yeah and thanks for reminding me I gotta get some brush on gloss varnish. I only have spray medium. I will pick some up and try on the vials
Our Votann Core is crapping out.
Another day of thinking about this lad's list idea
>>97117533Their identity was that they had a shit ton of psykers
>>97117691You can't have 5 units of Rubrics in a CSM list. You can have 3 units of 10 but not 5 of 5, no?
Post Hot Imperial Girls.
>>97117705That's the thing, they keep the battleline keyword even as allied units.
>>97117705see: it's somewhat related to the "cults of the dark gods" army rule.
>>97117708
With allies being so limited now days, what would you think of 40k getting AoS style Regiments of Renown?If you don't play the other game, each is a small preset group of units that have an associated special rule and a set list of other armies they can be taken with.
>>97117644Its worse, cloudflare is shitting up again.More and more people realise it was a mistake to put all our eggs in one basket.I can only pray for the day AWS, Cloudflare all these other baskets shit the bed and the internet dies
>>97117725They were called formations back in 7th.Formations were awful and we don't ever want them back.
Intercessors or heavy intercessors for objectives? Also are apothecaries worth it?
>>97117725I want them to combine factions into bigger factionsPut Monogod Chaos Legions back into CSMPut all Eldar into one big versatile factionstuff like thislet us soup again
>>97117744This was scheduled maintenance for cloudflare during the lowest traffic hour. It's not anything to panic about like last time.
>>97117725I dont mind as long as its not a preset named unit, which is just slightly less unbearable than named characters.If we can have a list of "mercenary" units it would be good.Something like>Ork flash gitz>Ork lootas>Deldar Kabalites>IG guardsmenetc etcObviously some factions (Tyranids, Necrons) cant be mercenaries, but I think some factions can have a unit or two available (SM squad in a Chaos army implies a recently corrupted squad, or CM with Tau is them doing a false flag/covert job etc etc).Also if your army has unique characters, you cant have a mercenar unit. Its to avoid Guilliman fighting alongside a squad of Chaos Raptors and Flash Gits.But Captain Damios of the Dark Angels may be in the cusp of corruption to have these units in his army.
>>97117759>lowest traffic hourIts 10am in Europe, I can imagine some businesses got fucked. Also them not having redundancies for this type of maintenance is pretty dumb, but who knows how things work over there?
>>97117759No it was not lmao, they fucked shit up on the live service. Cloudflare shouldnt go down ever if things work correctly, even during maintainance.
>>97117763Deldar units literally already have a "blades for hire" keyword that might b applicable for something like that
Scout 6 or Lance on a blob of Possessed?
Is having an Dark Angels Custom Successor Chapter that has an ailled Knight and is friends with an Krieg Guard Company with an home planet of a giant forest world mary sue or not? Colours are purple and green.
>>97117826nonce artist
>>97117851nonce poster
>>97117567Raven Guard are already getting usurped by their own successor chapter.
>>97117868Ah yes. The fist effect.
>>97117851nonce victim
>>97117876We all miss nonce edition, even if we hated it at the time. Teenth is too dull.
>>97117826kinda
>>97117884Thats one hell of a hunchback
>>97117884It was a simpler time. Dare I say, a better time?
>>97117691So what is this? Like, an elite-ish horde army that circumvents all the big vehicles and monsters?
>>97117895Absolutley love this dioramaSeeing it this sunday hopefully
>>97117924Just a bunch of niggas, I don't want to weight too heavily into what's meta (more tanks for instance) because I know it's the best way to waste money on models I don't really like and I'm not going to play in any tournament.My goal has always been since I was a kid to play custom Tzeentch-aligned chaos guys, so I'm still trying to make their somewhat dedicated detachment work (Cabal).For reminder, Cabal allows Daemon Princes to give AP-1 to melee attacks around them, while psykers give +1S to ranged attacks. So here you have two blocks of shooty legionaries+sorcerer and rubrics, as battleline units they get a healing strat tooFlamer rubrics in rhinoMelee legionaries and Possessed and Prince as melee niggasWarpsmith turned psyker with a Helbrute in the backAnd a block of terminators with a sorcerer in deep strike So of course you're going to tell me to run each 10guy as 2x5, but I'd have to paint twice the captains and I'm not really fond of the idea.
>>97117895I still think primarchs being 12 ft tall demigods was the most retarded decision ever.
>>97117976I love the way this guy draws taus
>>97117985Primarchs being 12ft demigods acting like teens with dad issues despite already being established adults when they meet the Emperor is incredibly retarded.Its fascinating how BL authors are unable to write adults.
I liek kroot :D
>>97118008The book is only as good as the writer. Probably none of the people that write for BL would get a book published otherwise so you can't expect it to not be garbage
>>97117985>being 12 ft tallthey aren't
>>97117985They are much cooler like that.>>97118008>Primarchs being 12ft demigods acting like teens with dad issues despite already being established adults when they meet the Emperor is incredibly retarded.This I agree with.When Emps met his sons all of them were already fully grown up by the time he arrived. The fuck is he meant to do? Take them all back to Terra and play catch with them?
>>97118018Yeah, they are 13 ft tall.
What are you working on? I'm slaving away on more Night Lords
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97118041Bro, your official Night Lords upgrade sprue bits?
>>97118043Never cared for those. I made these guys before I got my hands on a shitload of 3d printed NL stuff from DMS.
>>97118049DMS?
>>97118050DMS miniatures. He got nuked by GW but I got the upgrade bits and raptor bodies and backpacks like a week before. Made some quality stuff. Pic related are some of the raptors I got
>>97118008To me it all speaks to how mediocre the writers are.If I was tasken with writing 12ft demigods I'd either>Write from "human" perspectives, close counselors or equivalentor>Make their perspective inhuman/alienThe issue is I don't think it'd be popular.>>97118018Next time I'll say they're 3 stories high.
>>97118008>12ft demigodsThey're like 9.5 feet tall at best, 12 feet is the ballpark of monster HQs like Princes and Tyrants
>>97118041Crisis suits. Ordered some more alligator clips so I can paint these a box at time
>>97118008Maybe they can't write adults because they don't know themselves what being an adult is.
>>97118041Nothing right now and I'll be working on fantasy stuff for a while.
>>97118072people who know what being an adult is... the chuds who spend all day on 40kg melting down about RTS games trying to sell you toys and whether Black Library is canon or not.
>>97118077>Maybe they don't know>OH SO YOU THINK YOU KNOW, HUH?
>>97117895Rumor has it the one marine under the steps is still hiding there to this day.
>>97118018Magnus' model is the height of a contemptor dreadnought, or 14 feet in height.
>>97118082I'll check this weekendAnyone feel like playing on sunday? I may need to be helped through a game because i have not played any 10th
>>97118055>>97118022>>97118017Or they can just write Greek Gods instead, just flawed, jealous, prideful but extraordinary people. They may have issues, and can still cause problems, but it cant be "my dad doesnt understand me! But I never tell him my issues, I just skulk and hope he gets the hint">Lorgar, please stop making churches, I dont like religion and we need to conquer the galaxy fast.>Ok, bro. I think you're a god but I understand the need to rush. We'll build churches later.>Mortarion, I had to kill your adoptive dad, because you were about to die, and I can't afford to lose a potential general to my army over some petty pride.>Sure thing, sir. I understand there are levels to the urgency.>Perturabo, if you have any qualms about your treatment, let's hear them, I may overlook things>Sure, here are my concerns...>Angron, I need you... Yeah I fucked up here *BLAM*
>>97117752pls halp
>>97118102intercessors dumbo they have sticky objective
>>97116988>What is your recipe for silver metallics.Black undercoat, Scale 75 Thrash Metal, wash with Army Painter Dark Tone, then specular highlight from Thrash Metal up to Vallejo Model Air Silver.For a darker look replace Thrash Metal with Black Metal, and Dark Tone with Black Ink (both Scale 75)
>>97118097I always preferred the heresy to be either full mythical, as in heavily redacted/changed over the years into "god casted satan I mean horus into hell with his legions", or letting the traitors be... Traitors. Actual bad guys.It's frowned upon to write straight up bad guys, people think it's unrealistic, when reality is even stranger/worse than you can think of.Horus getting corrupted because he was greedy and wanted more power? Thought he could use chaos and got used?Nah he was good but wounded and corrupted, poor horus :CAngron can't just be a raging maniac who loves killing, it's not like we had the Age of Strife with technobarbarian a few decades prior.Lorgar can't just the think the emperor "betrayed" him over things he made up in his head when he was told he was too slow and his religion pointless.etc.You can't have all the primarches be empathized/understood AND have half of them betray the emperor and join chaos, it has always been retarded.And then the cherry on the shitcake is the "all according to plan" bullshit with the emperor they added on top.
>>97117851Dumb hylic.
>>97118060Space Marines are 9 ft tall now.
>>971181408, not 9
>>97117533seems in character to me
>>97118119A good written vilian is a hero in his own right. Only absolutly fuckt up mongrell spastic retards pretend to think that kicking puppys and murdering children for the sake of it like its some shity cartoon is peak literacy. Horus wanted the same the emperor but the means are diffrent. Same goes for abadon and so on. The emperor him self is flawed as is just a man.
>>97118148>A good written vilian is a hero in his own right.Stopped reading there
>>97118008Ofcoarse you cant relate to that. Your dad never came back from getting milk, unlicke the emperor.
>>97118097>Lorgar, please stop making churches, I dont like religion and we need to conquer the galaxy fast.>Ok, bro. I think you're a god but I understand the need to rush. We'll build churches later.I like the idea that the primarchs being galatic conquerers, and so had the ego of galatic conquerers. decades spent seperate from the rest of imperium or meeting the Emperor in person, decades spent being bigger, taller, smarter, faster stronger with absolute authority to everyone they meet. It would corrupt anyone. think of the size of the egos of ancient kings who conquered a few villages and ruled less than a million people who called themselves 'immortal king of the universe' and other silly titles. The primarchs wre this but conquered billions, indriectly ruled trillions, had billions of soldiers as they conquered the galaxy >Emperor told me to stop building churches but I want to build them so you build them in secret as a side project you enjoy to let off some steam, relax from the complicated nature of leading a crusade fleet, hidden from the Emperor.>Emperor finds out and burns the planet and makes you kneel to remind you whose in charge>Lorgars massive ego, sense of betrayal, invasion of his privacy and his mental space by attacking a side project he grew to rely on to relax fueled with religious persecution is the first step to his damnation>>97118119Well said anon, you read my mind and argued these points better than I could.
>>97118148>A good written vilian is a hero in his own rightoh no another who fell for the ozymandias meme
>>97118170Oh no a nother one who is retarded. Must be painfull to be that stupid. Are you on meds all the time?
>>97118148Retard
>>97118169Or simply the primarchs that fell for chaos are simply fanatics and the that stayed with the imperium are more blanced. But all of them are still following the emperors dream for mankind.
>>97118169>It would corrupt anyone.Contrary to popular belief, power does not corrupt, power reveals.There isn't a causation between power and ego/corruption, greedy/selfish/egomaniacs "love" (crave) power, and so seek it exceedingly more than others.This is why in History you'll see an enormous amount of corrupt individuals in power, not because of the power itself but because they sought it, at all costs.Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
>>97118177You
>>97118173>draw porn>paint it blue, no nose and Y on forehead>Look, 40k!I'd say get help but I'd rather you get as deep into it and end this once and for all as quickly as possible.
>>97118186>power doesn't corrupt people, people corrupt powerANon I get your point, power like money can amplify personaility problems already present. I also got your arguements that its power hungry freaks who seek power. HOWEVER we know that being in such a high authuoirty figure and treated like it for long periods of life does alter how your brain works. to the point that merely being referred to by your first name and not a title can take you off balance, seen in police 'interviews' of powerful people to take them off guard and feel less confident. Being a galatic god king conquering the galaxy for CENTURIES would alter who they were before they met the Emperor , however subtle or obviousThanks for coming to my TEDx talk
>>97118148
>>97118041Playing around with some spare apothecaries.
>>97118119>put all that effort into the skin>paint eyes as thick lineswhy
>>97118186Wrong the coruption comes from being on top and not having any one police you. You are the police. You are the law. Its a lack of stead fast chracter. Only because you can means you should. No matter the means and endresult. Some people are only good as long there is some higher power keeping them in check, once that gone they are unhinged. Thats the coruption that seeps in. Slowly. Even steadfast people that think they are that uncorptble fall for it. You wittnes this crap your self each day if you pay attention. Here you are anonimus, no laws or regulations apply, you write nigger post gore stuff you would not do infront of other people. In the car your safe space you swear like a soiler scream speed and act like a animal, once outside you tame. In your car behind the wheel your god and no one can touch you. In discord teamspeak or what eber your buddys are unhinged animals but when you meet them.in real life most of the time you hear, you act diffrent here. When your on top you are the consequence. Once you understand that a people you understand the coruption thacomes with power.
>>97118169There's ego, then there's petulance.Lorgar got warned multiple times to stop dicking around. If he has ego, which is normal for most primarchs, he would either confront the Emperor about it or rebel then and there.Him blowing a gasket after being punished is like a kid being mad to finally get his tablet taken away after being told multiple times to turn down the volume.I'd expect that reaction from a kid, not a worlds conqueror.Talk about idiocy, Leman Russ blindly following Horus's orders to kill Magnus is truly a shining moment.>Leman, the Emperor Himself told you to just arrest Magnus. As his personal bodyguard since before you were even conceived, I was there to witness the order.>But Horus later told me 'nvm bro, the Emperor told me to tell you to murk Magnus'.A non braindead human would probably check back on the Emperor for the order. I thought BL writers would have a better reason for Horus's trickery (Leman getting hallucinations, Horus impersonating the Emperor, Magnus going berserk and attacking first as the SW arrives peacefully).But no. These superhumans with centuries of battlefield experience on the galactic scale is as gullible as toddlers.
>>97118233>Talk about idiocy, Leman Russ blindly following Horus's orders to kill Magnus is truly a shining moment.>>Leman, the Emperor Himself told you to just arrest Magnus. As his personal bodyguard since before you were even conceived, I was there to witness the order.>>But Horus later told me 'nvm bro, the Emperor told me to tell you to murk Magnus'.I have never read the HH burning of Prospero stuff. I was under the impression that since it was post Horus being made Warmaster, he is the law. He told Leman to kill magnus and Leman was just a loyal dog who did whatever he was told and Horus was within his rights to order him to do it 'in the emperors name'. I thought the whole event pivoted on the idea of the dangers of following orders unquestiongly even if they are legitimate orders and full legal orders.
>>97118233T spastic that never served or even understands how the military and orders work.General tells you to arrest a guy, colonel comes in later and tells you orders changed kill him. Your a soldier you do what you are told to do else you commit treasen. There was no reason for russ to mistrust or second guess horus orders.
>>97118228>Wrong the coruption comes from being on top and not having any one police you.Maybe to you>>97118209I didn't say he should shut up, I said he could speak but I won't listen nor care.
>>97118250To every one. You never been in a postion of power.
>>97118247If you knew anything about the military you'd know you can disobey bad orders, this isn't ww1 where you'd get shot to set an example
>>97118097>>Mortarion, I had to kill your adoptive dad, because you were about to die, and I can't afford to lose a potential general to my army over some petty pride.>>Sure thing, sir. I understand there are levels to the urgency.Bro, the reason Morty climbed that mountain when he did was because the Emperor gave him an ultimatum to either finish the liberation of Barbarus immediately or accept being conquered by the Imperium. And he said that when he knew Morty still wasn't ready for it. If he wanted to he could have just killed the overlord and reached out to Morty without waiting. But the entire point of the exercise was to let Morty get his ass kicked so he'd be sworn to surrender himself and Barbarus to the Emperor. And the Emperor admitted this to him. Morty got the impression that the Emperor was an asshole because the Emperor was very clearly being an asshole. But Morty still stayed true to his word and did his job.
>>97118256>To everyoneNigga I think you've just been telling on yourself and thinking this is how everyone works.You have issues, don't try and make it mine or anyone else's.
Play Necromunda.
>>97118276Where is that throne in the background from? Is it a kitbash?Also I'm glad they're ditching resin even in negromunda
>>97118276Can I play as a marine in it?
>>97118282Kind of.
>>97118247>You're a soldier, you do what you are told to do else you commit treason.(fixed it for you)Except Leman was not a simple soldier, the primarchs were pretty independant, even a simpleton would think its weird how the order changed drastically by the second in command, and soldiers (especially those in command like Leman Russ) CAN question orders, especially if he thinks its illegal or contradictory to the previous one.Do you think its that simple to hijack an order? >Horus, I had the order from the Emperor Himself to apprehend Magnus, not kill him. I will need to confirm with the Emperor if the original objective changed.>I am Warmaster, obey me>But I have reasonable doubt about this order, and as a commander, I will need confirmation to whether or not I will kill a fellow commander.
>>97118282Surprisingly yes, but his armor's all fucked.
>>97118259If you knew anything about the military you would write that stupid shit. You ether a women or mentally retarded. A order is a order. End of any fucking discusion.If you know any fucking thing about 40k lore you would have started this retarded conversation. Primarchs dont arrest each other for fun. They send him to get magnus for treason even worse disobeying a direct order from the emperor. The punishment for disobeying orders is equal to treason of the highes degree. The higher you are in rank the worse the punishment is. Fuck tard, this is the miltary not some fucking highschool fuck up drama. You dont say sorry momy and you can go home with a slap on the wrist.
>>97118233Probably because this isn't the first time he has purged a legion and he also hates magnus and wants to do it.It likely was not an unprecedented order and he fully trusted his brother, the warmaster, to give him true information
>>97118297>You ether a women or mentally retarded. A order is a order. End of any fucking discusion.Are you 14?
>>97118284He had no daubt as horus gave him non. Think before write. You lack of inteligance and knolage makes not bad writing or illogical. You wont spin this where you come out on top.
>>97118304Anon i agree with you but you need to learn to spell
>>97118041Nothing right now, since I'm waiting for the tools to arrive. Have my ancient in the meantime.
>>97118297If you are/were in the military and not just larping, you're probably nothing more than some low level grunt to not understand how orders work.If not, and you are actually in command of multiple men, by how you write, you must come from some bumfuck third world country where the the IQ requirement for being an NCO is probably room temperature in winter.Either way, I take my BL criticism back. Their writers actually perfectly nailed how they write retarded primarchs, considering the target audience are mouth breathing idiots like you.
>>97117895I love dioramas
So what will be today, another piece of lore? Another painting guide? lmao
>>97118303You seem to be. How fucking stupid are you? A order is absolut especialy in 40k. You dumb spastic are trying to shift the goal post from hurr durr but in rl to hurr durr but in 40k. Even now you try to argue about something absolute. Its set in stone as is 1+1=2 a order is a order.
>>97118304The spelling has to be bad on purpose.Then again real life is crazier than fiction.
>>97118321>an order in 40k is absoluteSays who? What do you know about 30k Legiones Astartes Cmd structures?
>>97118283>>97118286Neat
>>97117661>>97117655>>97117644>>97117643>>97117640>These losers were so desperate to use a fucking GENERAL 4CHAN THREADYou all actually lack other social circles don’t you?
>>97117533>two factions of Space Marines in Dawn of War 4
>>97118332No i have a few, i just like shitposting hereYou cant act high and mighty when you are posting here yourself
>>97118332Do you?
>>97118341I do but you fags put way to much salt into a general that’s lost posters on a dead board
>>97118343Somehow, I doubt that
>>97118313T.dumb spastic would still thinks he is some hot shit with a giant i.qThose are dumbest people on earth. Not understanding there limits. You are way over your head here kid.
>>97118350I’m in the discord kek
did arch drop his video yet
>>97118361>I'm in the general>And in the smaller non anonymous general
>>97118371I'm Lso trans btw if that matters owo
>>97118333>Thinking there's only going to be twoYou sweet, summer child
>>97117533I take it the Blood Ravens will be filled with missions about obtaining "relics" while the Dark Angels are occupied?
>>97118331They are called Goliath aka bootleg marines and there is also a named character that is an insane blood angel.But no sane game master would allow actual marines. Only homosexuals want marines in necromunda.
>>97118415I wish we could take necromunda models with Imperial agents. Would love to have that thick doctor model in my army
>>97118431I mean there is nothing preventing you from using the models in your army.I usually use necromunda models and random models to represent random crap in my army.But then again I do not play 10th and usually play 3rd/4th so I have way more freedom to do stupid list and strange units.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gjcfhp0x/grotmas-calendar-day-5-veteran-detachments-for-the-astra-militarum/
>>97118415Marines are cool though. So I'm adding them.
>>97118454
>>97118445neat
>>97118415>the homosexual in question
>>97118468Marines are cool. Simple as.
>>97118445Just bring guard doctrines back this is just sad
>>97118445Those lazy fucks really delayed last dataslate detachments to make Grotmas seem less shit, didn't they?
>>97118445Ogrynbros, its our time
>>97118506Based, I wonder how good that is.
>>97118481>DoctrinesI wish. They had something cool a few editions back, maybe 9th/8th, where you selected I think two "traits", that was fun too
>>97118506Fluffy and based.
>>9711846910th is just rerolling everything, shit sucks
>>97118528One of the key reasons I hate 10th is the lack of ability to customize my dudes rules-wise.
>>97118528Do not remind of 9th. Even GSC had a something interesting with their create your own cult rules that you spend cult points to build your own.Granted you always ended buying the same ones due to how shit and boring the rest of them where, but the few ones that didn't suck allowed enough combinations to make every custom GSC army different
8th and 9th edition were better than 10th in everyway possible.11th won't fix 10th or make it better, it'll just be worse and more shrimplified.
>>97118573The best hope is that a future edition will undo a lot of the shrimplification just to chase easy nostalgia points>Remember all that shit we removed? Well its BACK, just like the OLD DAYS! #theyrebacknew40k
>>971185738th was the best edition (I started with 8th).
>>97118445>Mordian MinuteFinally, I can make my Kasrkin hellguns strength 4 like they fucking well should be.
>>97118579they didn't simplify enough. game is too bloated with datasheets and skills. too many models, too many phases, takes too long to play.
>>97116988I like orks :DHere's Big Mek Rusthed :D
>>97118619one would think that if you like orks so much you would at least clean the fucking mouldlines on your miniatures
>>97118619Everyone boo this anon for liking something BOOO
>>97118538I wish 11th could curb the amount of re-rolls in the game but I doubt there's anything the core rules can do since the rules allowing re-rolls are mostly found in codexes and 11th is probably not going to be a full reset.
>>97118573>shrimplifiedYou mean simplified?
>>97118445Fuck yes!I knew they would come through. All is forgiven, GW!
>>97118676No, it was intentional.
I wish 40k was more fun playing alone with myself. or any of their other games.
>>97118691Oh...that's kind of stupid.
When I'm nervous I pick his nose and eat his boogers
>>97118676
>>97118703I have fun playing their space marine operations game mode on my own. It's pve.
>>97118713Did GW make a gaff with shrimps or something?
>>97118703Kill Teams has a solo/co-op mode and there's other interesting systems you can steal from.
>>97118746
>>97118041I have a box of brood brothers genestealies kill team being shipped to my local hobby store. Unfortunately my one friend still into 40k was seduced by the wiles of mid-krieg, so I'll be fighting the maskie guard once I toss them together
>>97118746just people taking the piss of something robin crudence said
>>97118754It seems like you're just a troll. Got it.
>>97118746You poor shrimple minded man
>>97118767>>97118763
>>97118712Hopefully not in front of your peers anon…
>>97118746Some GW guy said 10th edition was simplified not simple even though the entire edition has just been them curtailing all sorts of customization and complexity, so it became a meme about shrimps.
>>97118767>>97118771
>>97117623I'm feeling Imperial Knights. Admech aligned.Human at the core, but surrounded by so much power and machinery as to practically drown it.
>>97118795>being subbed to mordian glorycrinfe
>>97118746It's really not that shrimplicated
>>97118795Soulless vs Soul
>>97118477Only Custards a bigger mary sues. Guardsmen are cool, marines are for bullied faggots with power fantasies
Keep it up photoshrimp anon, I'm cackling
>>97118828I'm not. I'm very upset about it, but its on topic I can't even report it! I'm being trolled and I have no recourse!
>>97118828
I always feel a little sad seeing fully painted armies being sold second hand. Unfinished or grey is whatever, but man I can’t help but feel a little melancholy seeing finished models in little 50 percent off baggies at my LGS.
>>97118844Sometimes people grow up anon. I get sad about it too. Im doing my best to hang on to my stuff, I want to give it to my kid
>>97118119I prefer the take where Horus and Co are actually not evil at all to start with, and the whole 'Heresy' was genuinely just a civil war on who deserves to rule the galaxy. The Emperor, or the Great General.It may or may not have spiraled out of control to varying degrees. But it's just been so re-written and mythologized and now it's the heart of a religious belief baked into the legal system of the imperium, there's no way to really know it's not this grand mythology, and no way to question without being immediately crucified for being problematic.
>>97118844Sometimes people are just clearing up space for new things, I know ive dropped some stuff and had it shattered and decided to just throw it away instead of fixing it because I have so many Marines.
Grotmas Detachments>Emperors Children - Court of the Phoenician>Guard - Grizzled Company>CSM - Nightmare Hunt>Blood Angels - Rage Cursed Onslaught>Space Wolves - Saga of the Great Wolf>Aeldari - Serpents Brood
>>97118858>I prefer the take where Horus and Co are actually not evil at all to start withThey spent hundreds of years deleting civilizations in the name of the guy they eventually tried to overthrow. Billions and billions and billions of people died. Entire biospheres were annihilated. They're incalculably evil even before their turnabout.
>>97116988>Aeldari tummies Middle is best
Doubles tournament at the end of the month and I'm bringing 2 riptides!
>>97118873>>Emperors Children - Court of the PhoenicianA detachment that can only be played with the gigantifuckular centerpiece model? Awesome, exactly what the army needed!
>>97118858They led a genocide across the galaxy and also eradicated all human societies that refused to submit to the Imperium. They are not good guys you retarded secondary
>>97118873@GROK IS THIS TRUE!?
>>97118891It’s for the people that bought the Battleforce Box
>>97118746I take it you're new here? Welcome, Newfriend! In any case, let me explain. 10th edition was said to become more simplified, but not simple. However, a lot of the time these "simplifications" have resulted in things becoming less simple, while removing complexity from the game. A good example of this is wargear, where certain loadouts are locked to certain models, and where the datasheets look like complete ass as a result. GW had to give Crisis suits different names to price their wargear correctly, as points per weapon has been removed. Another example is GW adding keywords, but at the same time adding special abilities for every unit, often with the same function as another unit, but with a different name. The list goes on. I'm sure somebody else can help me with other examples. It's shrimplified, not simple
Any lorefags in the thread? How big was badrukk and the flashgitz in the books? I really like the idea of pirate orks but it looks like I missed the boat on badrukk's model
>>97118911>GW had to give Crisis suits different names to price their wargear correctlyWhile overall I agree, Crisis suits are a bad example. At least the way they are now people actually bring Crisis suits with different load outs
>>97118911What does that have to with shrimp though?Is it just because it rhymes? Thats some low IQ shit anon ngl
>>97118858OP hereThe full myth/revisionism take is also my favorite, I think it serves 40k much better.
>>97118921You sound like a faggot.
>>97118921I always hated it. Reminds me of the "doggo" and "fren" babytalk that took over the internet years ago.
>>97118943Sorry your meme is dumb :(
>>97118873I only care about minis
>>97118893All justified
I only care about lore
>>97118969I'm sorry you were born the way you are.
>>97118981Keep throwing a tantrum I guess?
>>97118980faggot
>>97118980NO YOU DO NOT
>>97118980Prove it
>>97118991You can fuck off now.
>>97118445>6 new detachmentsJAMES GIVE ME A DROP POD ASSAULT DETACHMENT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
40k or warhammer in general needs an idol.
>>97119026Make Yvraine into one.
>>97118142Scale creep. Firstborn are consistently 8ft tall now. Primaris are half a head to a full head taller (depending on the book)
>>9711865330K basically removed re-rolls this new edition. It can be done.
>>97119041True scale marines always fucking make me burst out laughing on sight.
>>97118060Primarchs have the monster keyword, even the non-daemon onesThey're almost twice as tall as marines, putting them on average at 12-14 feet with Magnus and Vulkan standing at 16
>>97119041
>>97119026You need estrogen
>>97119048Why?
>>97119053Yeah I could probably do with getting laid.
>>97118996:*^(>>97118997I do>>97118999How?
>>97119051Tabletop scale is all over the place and frequently doesn't represent the lore.
primaris models are only a head taller than sisters, so they're no more than 7' tall in reality. the books that claim otherwise are in-universe propaganda.
>>97119058its hard to take seriously. Like its too un synchronized with everything.
>>97118506‘Issue orders too’, inb4 some sweat uses this spelling mistake to make ogryns give orders
>>97118008>acting like teens with dad issues despite already being established adultsIn fairness, didn't most of them age like 5-10 times faster then regular humans? Wasn't Vulkan only like 4 or 5 years old when he kicked the shit out of the Dark Eldar, but was a massive full grown man? And didn't the Empire rock up not long after?
>>97119041>Firstborn are consistently 8ft tall now.no, they aren't, and the ones that are inconsistently 8ft tall don't make the primaris 9ft tall in any case.
>>97119046TOW also has no rerolls.
>>97119097And nobody plays it
>>97119058He’s a retard that’s why.
>>97118619But there's no rust on his head
>>97119083Primaris are 8"7' in Space Marine 2 and that games has firstborn at pretty much the same scale
>People shit and piss over the size difference between primaris and firstborn>despite normal humans have a bigger size varianceIts crazy how the idea of some firstborns being as tall or taller than primaris or vice versa is alien to you guys.
>>97119040She does have that K-pop singer energy
>>97119121Primarisfags in shambles
>>97119097Why do you lie?
>>97119121Height of model isn't height in game
>>97118893>They led a genocide across the galaxy Repeatedly justified >and also eradicated all human societies99% of which were chaos corrupted or worse
>>97119026I love this game. I like telling Blonde Blazer to fuck off. I self-insert as Phenomoman. I wish these writers worked for Black Library. They know how to write superhumans.
>>97119147>Genocide fans be like>it's justified (I like the guy who did it and wish it was me)
>>97119128I'm in shambles!!Aaaaaaa!!!!Oh wait no i'm not.
>>97119152This, but unironically.
>>97119158It wasn't ironic, people aren't complicated
>>97119134No its pretty consistent with height of the guardsman
>>97119134Yes it isStand next to any human in-game and tell me that you aren't nearly 9 feet tall
>>97119160And yet you need a degree and a license to be a therapist. Curious.
>>97119154>replying to meGo to bed, Mike.
>>97119152No, that's just how the lore is written, the imperium is always in the right or closer to being right than everyone else
Are we to take a tie-in videogame as a higher standard of proof than the models produced by the model company?
>>97119072Every bit of art of space marines since 2ed has showed them towering over regular humans.
>>97119204Have you seen the models of this company? The fucking ATV, etc?
>>97119196Make me, Ricardo.
>>97119207New coteaz makes me chuckle everytime.
>>97119190I don't need a degree to figure you out>>97119198>that's just how the lore is writtenYou read wrong
>>97119204YesModels are never in scale you fucking retard
>>97119134NTA but we 3d artists use real measurements to keep shit consistent. If it's 2.5m tall in blender then it will also be 2.5m tall in-engine.
>>97119209Here’s your last (You), don’t spend it all in one place.>>97119124Speaks a lot to the mentality of some people in this general
>>97119204When the models have hilariously been misrepresenting the size of space marines as described in text and as shown in art for literal decades? Of course.
>>97119204>Marines and guard were same same height until 2017Yes, we're ignoring model scale lmao
>>97119215I understand the schizo theory on how it got approved but that won’t stop it from looking like shit god damn.
>>97119216>i dont need a degreeOpinion discarded>>97119225Here's your last (you). I dont care how you spend it.>>97119239I love it, its so retarded lmao
>>97119216>You read wrongCope all you want, the loyalists primarchs and emperor will return and save the galaxy
>>97118873CSM already got their additional detachment. Space marine subfactions already get a glut of detachments and so don't deserve any extras. So what it's actually going to be is:IG - Grizzled CompanyEmperor's Children - Something that somehow makes them worse and also references a unit they can't actually use.Death Guard - Non-Terminator Characters become Battleline and you're not allowed to take Daemon units.World Eaters - Masters of Execution become Blood Surgeons with an aura but the rules are terrible and you're not allowed to attach him to units.Thousand Sons - They get the old 7th Edition Invisibility powerEldar - You can spend Battle Focus tokens for re-rolls.
>>97119262Try painting models.
>>97119268Ooh yeah I bet the shitty bezerker surgeon gets announced during grotmas.
>>97119262No, they won’t. Their best time to do it was the Scouring, and Dorn and co. fucked that up tremendously
>>97119278You're such a stupid retard still trying to push that 3d print as a real leak
>>97119271Painting is boring and hardAnd expensive
>>97119046Which is probably the greatest thing about HH3.0 but that also required resetting the army books. I doubt GW will do a full reset with 11th.
>>97119124It's more the fact that making primaris even bigger is such a weird decision. Marines are already fucking gigantic, even if the models didn't show it. If you're fixing the scale, why go out of your way to make them even bigger with a shitty lore reason? It just comes of as trying to downplay the classic marines.Same shit happened in AoS. Chaos warriors already towered over regular humans in WHFB so when they made stormcasts (order warriors) they went and made them bigger than chaos warriors for no fucking reason.
>>97119239>>97119256I'm still of the opinion that the new coteaz model is simply unfinished. It's a good base, it's jus tmissing 80% of the decorations and trinkets the old model had which makes it look flat as fuck.
>>97119291Theyre supposed to be upgraded warriors I dont see any reason they shouldnt be bigger
>>97119287Its about the payoff when you’re all finished and can admire your craft.
>>97119289>Which is probably the greatest thing about HH3.0 but that also required resetting the army books.That reset also made weapons pretty damn well balanced aswell as unique and straightforward. The writers really cooked with their new statlines.>I doubt GW will do a full reset with 11th.God knows the game needs it.
>>97119286Kek this is why i never buy 3d printed models. They always look like shit up close.
>>97119305I dont get that I would rather do other shit
>>97119307You don't buy any models whatsoever
>>97119312Prove it
>>97119298That could be part of it. The schizo theory was that they gave all of Coteaz’s signature details to that one other Inquisitor (Draxus?) and then phoned in Coteaz which would track a bit with your suggestion.
>>97119303Because both chaos warriors and space marines are already upgraded warriors. Doing upgraded warriors +1 comes off as lazy and narcissistic if it doesn't have something to compansate for it which custodes have but neither primaris nor stormcasts do.
>>97119307You can get rid of that effect by turning on anti aliasingRetards who print things like this (including GW) are too lazy and retarded to do so
>>97119309Then why get into a hobby about painting stuff?
>>97119324I am also one of said retards. I thought anti-aliasing was just for videogame graphics unless...I'm being trolled aren't I?
>>97119307Depends on what kind of 3d printer they use and what kind of resin they use. My local guy doesn't have that shit on his prints
>>97119329Its not just about painting shit its about the game and the lore and shit too so thats what I fuck with
>>97119239I have not heard this theory. There must be something behind it, because they turned one of the colest models evers sculpted into a diaper fetishist
>>97119320They already had that with the hierarchical power structure of normal guardsman to astartes to primarch to emperorInserting another slot in the hierarchy doesnt strike me as a problem
>>97119307None of my 3d prints have those layer lines and my printer is a 5 year old 2k elegoo mars. Seems like a settings issue to me. Both the top hull and the sponsons of this tank are 3d printed.
>>97119331Nope https://www.liqcreate.com/supportarticles/explained-tested-anti-aliasing-aa-and-blur-in-resin-3d-printing/
>>97119342Don't bother, that's just the anti-printing shitpost bot
>>97119121>Primaris are 8"7'no, they aren't
>>97119341It does when it makes one of the existing slots completely redundant. Custodes existing don't make space marines redundant even if they are better in every single way because custodians are even harder to make so they have an even smaller number. Terminator armour doesn't make normal power armour redindant because it's slow and cumbersome as fuck so it fulfills a different niche. A primaris is just a better marine with zero drawbacks so there's no actual logical reason to have anything but primaris.
>>97119341Bigger batman
>>97119121That's saying it's less than 8.2
>>97119331Anti aliasing is just a process to smooth the edge of a rasterized image, in other words, an image that's made out of pixels instead of made out of vectors or in the case of videogames, calculated as 3d points in space. The screen of a 3d printer is made out of pixels so those edges need to be smoothed or they'll come out jagged same as in videogames.
>>97119360That doesnt make sense though astartes existing doesnt make guardsmen redundantTheyre still a necessary part of the war effort even if the astartes are better warriors in every way
>>97119336See >>97119319>>97119305At our local GW there are people who do nothing but buy BL books on release.
>>97119354Game was made under James' careful supervision, they are :)
>>97119371>That doesnt make sense though astartes existing doesnt make guardsmen redundantWell yes for the exact same reason as custodes don't make astartes redundant, they are harder to make so you still have a need for guardsmen. If primaris are better than firstborn in everyway and are just as easily made then why would you ever make a firstborn over a primaris? If you could make space marines just as easly as you draft guardsmen then guardsmen wouldn't exist, you'd just make trillions of space marines.
>>97119367Actually its saying its just over 8'3"No idea why he pick Phobos armour though. Its the smallest
>>97119371He did not say that. He said primaris make manlets reduntant. A completely factual statement.
>>97119342>173kb imageLol sure bud. Maybe post an image that lets us zoom in and I'll believe you.
>>97119360The mortality rate as-written is a big drawback no matter how much anyone tries to downplay it.
>>97119305there's nothing to admire about models that aren't even battle ready
>>97119405Don't stir shit up>>97119305Don't take the bait
>>97119403The mortality rate was stated only when Calgar did it and then stated to be reduced when they had more experience it after doing it a few times. And that's just to turn a firstborn into a primaris. That fatality rate doesn't exist when making one from a neophyte so every single neophyte from that point onwards would logically be a primaris because why the fuck would they not?
>>97119400NTA but here's a printed scan of a terminator chaplain with proper settingsYou literally just click two buttons in most slicers and it gets rid of that artifacting, the rest is just learning support settings so they don't scar the model when you remove them
>>97119408Understood king
>>97119319All if his signature items are still there, sans the bald head. It's just that everything from the pose to the details are horrible. Somehow they even managed to fuck up the furr on the cloak
>>97119396I mean yeah I imagine moving forward it would be most efficient to continue producing primaris marines since theyre just betterBut the existing astartes are still usefulLike theres no reason for them to use shitty old equipment when better shit is availableI dont understand the gripe though is it just likeYour dudes arent top dog any more and thats lame? Ultrasmurf hate type shit?
>>97119381>Game was made under James' careful supervisionso was this 1/18 scale 12.8cm tall figure
He's just missing everything from the waist down. On top of his face making him look like a completely different person.>no book>no loincloth>no inquisitorial I on his shins>no parchment wrapped around his leg>no hourglass>no sculpted abs>no sculpted nipples>no gorget
>>97119409Reduced doesnt mean eliminatedThere probably is some drawback but its probably not significant enough to make primaris not worth creating
>>97119427Now put that next to the joytoy guardsmen
Apperently, the guys who said manlets would be squatted were right. I saw a Tactical Squad on the "get it before it's gone" shelf att my local GW. How can they to this to me?
>>97119398>Its the smallestarmours don't make people taller
>>97119424Not really. The issue is I liked space marines. I liked how they looked, the gear they used, their units, their tanks, their ranks and progression. Come primaris and they figuratively and literally say "the stuff you like is shit, we're killing and replacing it with something different that's so much betterer and strongerer and you're not a real space marine if you don't like that" and as you can imagine I don't really appreciate that. On top of the issue with the scale.
>>97119413I dont belive you. Is there any way for you prove that's a 3d print?
>>971194341/18 scale is 1/18 scale no matter what.
>>97119413Fighting in one of those soap party nightclubs?
>>97116988master of rites is released todayanybody want to share?
>>97119442They do. Terminator has consistenly been depicted in art and models as making the marine appear taller because it extends the limbs.
>People still dont understant that primaris is a models update for Space Marines, and the lore is just a justification for GW to have both models line at the same time as to not liquidate their SM stock overnight.You guys a bunch of idiots.>"But why didnt they just do a strict upgrade?!"If they do that nobody would buy the older marine models, and there's a lot of them in stores and storage collecting dust and taking precious, expensive, storage space.>Why didnt they just stop producing firstborn kits and sell their remaining stock?Then nobody would buy firstborn as they know the line is discontinued. Also SM are THE big seller. Losing the profit of firstborn SM sales overnight would fuck the GW stock prices.They have to do this slowly and gradually. They have to keep selling firstborn kits (without this they would lose money), but have to little by little give more shelf and storag space to primaris.GW cant afford to either lose money by abruptly stop selling firstborn kits, but nor can they afford to pay for stock for both firstborn and primaris.So they made a lore of both existing simultaneously so people still buy firstborns.But they made primaris better in lore so people would buy primars MORE.
Why is this thread so shit? Did everyone who was a mature adult just fuck off? Even the lorefags seem to be the bottom barrel ones.
>>97119449Based retard
>>97119468>>>/v/
>>97119463meaning the marine inside is still 7-8 feet tall
Chaos Space Marines, now that's how you bring something to a different scale!
>>97119445That sucks man I get itIts kinda the same thing with the old beak designs for the old mk armor setsShit just changes over time like thatOld astartes arent going anywhere though
>>97119462Get a job ranjeet
>>97119468Paint your models
>>97119468Bro im chilling this thread seems fine im having a casual 40k related conversation right now so maybe youre the problem
>>97119468You're the problem bud. The rest of us are enjoying the thread.
Still waiting for Arch to drop his video
>>97119434The joytoy krieger is in the same scale and ends up reaching 1.85m, once the scale is converted.
>>97119485Beakies are still a thing. Manlets won't exist come next edition. They won't be sold. You can probably proxy your old dudes, but Primaris will finally have taken the place as generic space marines, as can be seen in the case of Termies and the BT hq
>>97119485>Old astartes arent going anywhere thoughIn what way? Sometimes there's a creative that keeps it faithful like Astartes or Boltgun and uses a classic mairne but 99% of new books, games, art and 100% of new models are gonna be primaris and at this point there's only 3 classic units left in the codex (not counting terminators or scouts which got faithfully updated thank god). So I'm stuck not being able to enjoy anything new about this setting I love and being told to go play 30k even if I don't want to abandon the setting.
>>97119462I dont like black “people”
>>97119483We're talking about height with armour
>>97119447Lmao I'll track down the STL in my mess of a print folder after work
>>97119506The discussion was about marine height (biological), not stilts.
>>97119498Oh yeah thats today right? God damn I can't wait for the reaction videos just shitting on this dude lmao
Shut the fuck up, the thread is moving too fast
>>97119468>dead edition>4chins was down for two weeks, many of our bretheren finally broke free>resident psychos scare the model posters away>there's nothing else to talk about
>>97119515No it wasn't, the original diagram was showing the Marines with armour you idiot.
>>97119515And at that point in the discussion anon was using the measurements of a game's 3d model (which includes armour). Maybe follow the conversation before replying?
>>97119510It just looks too good to be true thats all I'm saying.
>>97119463>Can't stand straightMust be uncomfortable as well.
>>97119500Thats retarded lol>>97119501Doubtful things will work out anon
>>97119498It's here!https://youtu.be/Ovw1w1XA288?si=OqKlftscABg8rfPQ
>>971195293d printing has come a long way in the last decade anon, don't let people using stock printer settings and badly done sculpts make you think that's what all proonts look like
Sometimes I feel like I'm jinxed.>like marines but hate primaris>like IG but hate the mix of regiments since 9th>like AdMech but hate most of the 40k range, 30k range looks amazing
>>97119532Nigga we don't want yo stanky ass in dis general deadass. U opinions worth less than a wet ass fart. Your takes crusty
>>97119462Lol every marine is a spook now?
>>97119548Reasonable take anon. Im with you. Except for primaris. The new ones look pretty good. (RIP blood angels)
Ready to start working on some finer details. Deciding whether the flag is going to be a squadron flag or the Regimental Guidon, and working up the courage to attempt free handing it. Also going to take some Ativan or something prior to attempting to paint a map or range card on the one dude holding a blank sheet. Then I will do the special effects on the plasma pistols and seal them before I go back with a touch of gloss on all the lenses.
>>97119557
For orange I was told brown acts a better basecoat, as it takes 100000000x coats to make it pop. Any special hue of brown I should be using? Probably gonna use Molotow's graffiti sprays for it.Grabbed Vallejo's Orange Set, which is Sunset Orange/Orange Fire/Hot Orange/Scarlet Blood.
>>97119548>30k range looks amazing*Except for the vehicles and skitarii and myrmidons and tech thralls
>>97119548You know you could just buy Firstborn HH kits and just tell your opponents you’re running them as Primaris counts-as?>>97119287A friend of mine had an inspired way of dodging this problem without resorting to painters
>>97119549Niggas stay hatin tbqh
This is a white man’s galaxy.
>>97119562Warm browns are best
>>97119564Whats that anon?I have a friend who’s addicted to painting so I just have him paint all my shitHe’s prepping a Nemesis Claw kill team for me rn
>>97119557What print did you use for the maskless fella to the right? Loiks quite a lot like the WD sketches of kriegers
>>97119445Replace "new primaris brothers" with "Blessings from Khorne"
>>97119510Please do, would love to have that model
What grit sanding sticks should I use to get rid of the bumps from the spruce and what grit should I use to smooth out the sanding marks?
>>97119568#201 Orange Brown it is then.
>>97119585Use your blade, go with 600 and then swipe it with tamiya
>>97119557I tried to paint these as fast as possible, and I'm happy with the results for the time I gave them. Ive grown attached via attention, but they are still merely cannon fodder in a narrative campaign.
>>97119569A friend needed battleline Primaris but just didn’t want to work on actually putting them together, so he just bought a bunch of those chibi Bandai Intercessors, slapped them on the correct base, and ran them as real Intercessors. It was one of the weirdest things I’d seen on table.
>>97119271Paints are on their way.>>97119285Second best time is now.
>>97119557This kill team of veterans is what started the army, the rest is almost all Temu cheapos I got with the goal of practicing before I get to my better models
>>97119557Also going to try some fancy camo on these cloaks
Guard bros, how are you feeling about this new double order detachment?
>>97118506Commissars can only issue Fix Bayonets and +1 oc order, right? Does the regiment ability (re-roll 1' to hit) right.
>>97119564>running them as Primaris counts-asBut I don't like the primaris units. I liked the old ones.
>>97119593>swipe it with tamiyaI guess that give it a smooth finish? Would also a 1000 grit sandstick work?
>>97119645Ah you're just an autistic nomodels, carry on
>>97119645Fair enough. You’d have to use the Legends data sheets then, which is unfortunate if you ever want to play tournaments with tryhards.
>>97119634Commissars in Ogryn blobs sounds neat. It won't bring me back to 10th, however. I'll sit this one out
does anyone have a scan of the new leagues codex? i didnt see it in the repositories
>>97119563Skitarii pylgrims are great though. They are basic skitarii but with sicarian legs and shotguns. Makes sense to me. Thralls are fine, not sure what people have against them. They look the same as the resin ones just with more than 3 poses. Same with myrmidons the new ones look great. Meanwhile 40k AdMech has stupid landboats, chicken walkers and birdcopters.
>>97119520>resident psychos scare the model posters awayeven the ones with persistent orbiters still post their stuff
>Orders re-roll ones to hit and if on obj, to wound>Combine this with +1 hit objectiveHeavy Weapons Team/Field Ordinance spam bros... Is it our time?
>>97119653A 1000 absolutely works. But it's faster to melt that bitch down. I'd argue you have more control with the brush as well.
>>97119548you like 30k mechanicum, not admech
>>97119675You mean I like the way AdMech had been depicted as for decades before they turned them into davinci rejects? Sure.
>>97119670I don’t play IG but that’ll be interesting to see. Just a shame this is the tail end of 10th.
>>97119665The new skittles are fucking trashLegs are way out of scale and not in an interesting way, makes them look even more retarded than the fucking stiltboyTiny heads with retarded pickelhaube motifs and ugly over designed world of Warcraft rifles Not to mention they're extremely monopose
>>97119682If you don't like their 40k models you don't like admech, it's really that simple
if your tanks don't look like this, then you don't like chaos
>>97119682They never looked like 30k mechanicum but cute try
>>97119548Mabye you should switch to 30k, then? I'm thinking of it, but I know I won't convince my xeno friends to so it with me
>>97119572This guy? I can try a better pic of him later, but he is in fact an old pewter Van Saar dude, one of like 5 minis that didn't get stolen several years ago (I lost everything I had collected since 2nd edition, probably about $5000 worth of pewter at the time, and the reason I stopped playing and painting for a while). So now, that guy, with an old cadian helmet, has been pressed into service with the Guard. The campaign is on an agri-world that fish-farms the 90% ocean, so the air is only nasty and not totally toxic, so the gasmasks are more of a luxury than a necessity.
How are Aspect Shrines organized? Do the Aspect Warriors of different shrines come together under a senior shrine when multiple craftworlds combine forces, or do they operate only with their craftworld's autarch? The reason I ask is because I'm not sure how to paint up Aspect Warriors. Do they all have the same universal color scheme, or do they customize them and show off the lineage/heritage of their craftworld?
>>97119562Use a flesh tone
Why did GW have to get rid of cultists for Death Guard and other chaos armies?I don't understand the issue. Lots of 40k kits can be taken by several armies (spawn, tanks, lords etc). I liked having cultists and see no reason why GW should remove them like this. They also did serve a purpose. They existed to hold objectives while providing small arms fire. Poxwalkers have a purpose too, but it's different. It's not as if cultists are somehow broken or something. They cannot even claim it to be lore reasons and the only Death Guard focused book revolves around the experiences of a captured guard bloke and chaos cultists.
>>97119701Perfect examples of why sometimes less is more, these look awful
>>97119693>Legs are way out of scale and not in an interesting way, makes them look even more retarded than the fucking stiltboyExact same legs as sicarians my dude. Sicarians are just on 40mm so they have wider stances.>Tiny heads with retarded pickelhaube motifs and ugly over designed world of Warcraft riflesThey have the exact same proportions as every other humanoid model GW makes? And what the fuck is "ugly over designed world of Warcraft rifles" supposed to mean? All admech guns look like cobbled together gribbles.>Not to mention they're extremely monoposeExact same posability as regular skitarii.>>97119703They sure as hell not looked like davinci rejects.
>>97119585I like 600 for removing material. 1000 for smoothing
>>97119718Cultists are going to be the army identity for Word Bearers and, to a lesser extent, Alpha Legion.
>>97119718I mean this is the same company that gave EC a gutted codex despite not necessarily having that approach for the other chaos legions with an independent codex.
>>97119713Never played against these boys, how do they generally hold up against Knights or Marines?
>>97119645You never played with the old ones
>>97119723This just SCREAMS leather bat wings and flat landboats.
>>97119713No, the guy who's face you twisted away from the camera, diagonally to the right of that guy
>>97119723>Exact same legs as sicarians my dudeNot at all, I've actually assembled and painted sicarians, their legs are spindly and short, not twice the length of the body and thick like thighs the whole way down
>>97119701These are doing too much imo
>>97119723>They have the exact same proportions as every other humanoid model GW makes? And what the fuck is "ugly over designed world of Warcraft rifles" supposed to mean? All admech guns look like cobbled together gribbles.Ah you're just retarded, thanks for clearing that up I won't bother trying to explain this to your mongloiditic ass further
>>97119674I ask because I don't have Tamiya I have the shitty GW one so I'm hesitant to use that
>>97119701Extremely busy. I understand the appeal but I’d never field these.
>>97119729Dont reply to me
>>97119714Each aspect has its own most stereotypical color scheme but then each shrine of a certain aspect gets to have its own variations or alternatives to the scheme that may or may not reference the craftworld, and also craftworlds can get to have multiple shrines of the same aspects on them as well.You can do whatever the fuck you want.
>>97119714I imagine they’ve all got separate autonomous temples or whatever per Craftworld.
>>97119693>the new skittlesThere has only been one skitari ranger kit ever. What are you talking about
>>97119749Buy a whole set of those mini sanding pads in different grits. GSW makes one that pretty good. I think vallejo makes one that's for vehicles, stay away from that one. Make sure they're small and flexible
>>97119740No you didnt
>>97119768The shitty new 30k ones they just showed off
>>97119768There's proto-skittles coming to 30k.
>>97119729If it’s Horde expect to get drowned in bodies unless you have enough Blast weapons or volume of fire. If it’s Parking Lot, moveblock them.
>>97119670Sure, but you're missing out on the lethal hits of combined arms, nobody is going to take this detachment its shit
>>97119768Not rangers, the new battle pilgryms. Same shit but with shotguns and digitigrade legs to run faster to use said shotguns.
>>97119739Oh, that's one of the 10 female troopers that I got from Temu.
>>97119780>>97119782>>97119791Those aren't skitari tho. Why are you crying over models for a different game
>>97119791Same kinda legs.
>>97119756>all about 1s and 0s>non-binary
>>97119801You shouldn't be participating in this hobby if you're blind
>>97119808>Digitigrade hooved prosthetics somehow don't look like these other digitigrade hooved prosthetics just because they have plating covering the structure now
>>97119791Pretty sure those are volkites.
>>97119820>They're twice as thick and twice as long but they're toootally the sameYeah you're blind we know
>>97119791Add some third party capirotes/kkk hoods to these guys and they will be peak grimdark. They're not bad
>>97119822Voltock arquebuises. So lightning shotguns.
>>97119820It's an important difference.>>97119824>toootally the same"Same kind." Not literally the same legs, but similar.
>>97119824I think you're pretty bad at math.
Why does chaos not have land speeders or storm shields. Do they just throw them out when they find them
>>97119729No idea. They aren't done yet, so haven't seen action. We don't play 10th, and have a strict zero-tolerance policy that unpainted models are not allowed in play. Soon tho
>>97119836Are you confusing an arquebus for a blunderbuss?
>>97119844chaos having everything the loyalists have, plus their own unique stuff, is both dumb and impractical for a range that sells way less than the loyalist stuff
>>97119851Mayhaps. But it's still a relatively short range weapon with mad spread compared to modern guns.
>>97119791seeing this made me realize that I dont really like admech at all.
>>97119844They could have storm shields in 3.5
>>97119854>yUo JuSt WaNt ChAoS tO hAvE eVeRyThInGHow about just all the pre-Heresy stuff while loyalists can have post-Heresy stuff? CSM don't need all the primaris stuff, Centurions, Crusader and Redeemer LR, Razorbacks, etc. but it'd be nice for them to have stuff they had before. Claiming they can't upkeep them when Chaos has upkept stuff the Imperium cannot.
>>97119854Isn't CSM the second best selling army in the game? I feel like that used to be true at least...
>>97119844Picture an enraged deranged psycho behind the wheel of a fast car. Now make that a flying car. CSM probably had a bunch of land speeders once upon a time. They crashed them all doing 3 dimensional donuts. As for the shields, they require a defensive mentality and teamwork to work effectively. Chaos corrupted minds would absolutely throw away a shield.
>>97119889That would probably be true for 6th and 7th edition. But they have not been in any starter since then.
>>97119844The handwaved explanation is that CSM lackign the infrastructure of the wider imperium can't mantain that kind of tech and relly only on the oldest, simpler and reliable tech from the heresy.
>>97119791Man these are so disappointing after seeing that secutor HQ they released last year that looked fantastic, why couldn't that have been the aesthetic they went with instead of retarded furry legged pinheads
>>97119840>It's an important difference.Well it's logical that frontline soldiers will have more armour on them than stealth teams but it's still identifiable as the same type of prosthetics made for increased running speed compared to the normal legs of skitarii vanguard or rangers.
>>97119915Because secutarii are a different unit that already exists. They'll probably release the upgrade sprues on plastic at some point.
>>97119800Retard
>>97119913I think thats bogus and not actually backed up by real lore. Like I use to argue with SM players back in the day that said CSM should haven't assault cannons because they can't maintain rotary cannons and then GW gave them soulreaper cannons and reaper chaincannons
>>97119930It's funny how once again, they made a 30k unit that doesn't overstep the nich of the 40k units, as if they were designed as a complete whole... but won't give us rules to use them.
>>97119927Yes im aware, they should've just done that instead of releasing these retarded chicken walkers that look like pic related
>>97119701that converted thousand sons rhino that sometimes gets posted here mogs the fuck out of every single one of these
>>97119931It's just an excuse to give them different wargear. Same way STCs are an excuse for stuff to look the same across the galaxy.>>97119939They aren't mutually exclusive they still make both.
>>97119937And yet nobody wants them in 30kEverybody in the heresy discords are laughing at those new skittles even harder than they're laughing at the shitty new cataphractii
>>97119944They aren't mutually exclusive but it does mean it'll be even longer to get good looking skittles in 30k and those chicken walkers will be collecting dust on every store shelf
>>9711992730k is the gayest game ever, not because the rules are bad, but because of office politics and marketing retardation has taken everything fun and turned it into shit by making up stuff that we don't need and denying us all the cool shit that kept us interested in the setting for decades.
>>97119889no
>>97119949They still sell the secutarii upgrades you can make those units right now.
>>97119889Yes, CSM are the second best sellers by a wide marginThen it's the xenos who've had starter boxes
>>97119927They're not going to mix 30k and 40k anymore. There's a civil war between the mainline games and the specialist ones. 30k got some of the 40k stuff, and I guess they'll get more, like SoS. But we won't be able to take 40k kits and mix them with 30k bits. Same with the bolter custards that got squatted in 40k
>>97119952RetardWhy would I buy dogshit forgeworld resin to upgrade skitarii when we could've just had secutors in full plastic instead
>>9711995030k is the gayest shit because despite being the reason the Emperor made space marines in the first place, there are zero rules of orks, much less other xenos that were present.
How come Badab managed to make Marine on Marine violence interesting? It's even got taxes involved in its world building. Hell, Chaos isn't even involved until mid to late game
>>97119983Unironically because of politics. And Imperial Armour covering it.
>>97119969Wanting to play xenos shit in HH is like asking to play Luxembourg in a WW2 game.
>>97119999Counterpoint: 30k has a way better ruleset than modern 40k and one of the main reasons most people don't play it is the lack of faction variety 40k has.
>>97119955I don't think that has been true since Deathguard launched. The CSM fanbase is split across 5 armies now on a wat that SM is not.
>>97120021>SM>BA>DA>BT>SW>DW
Where is the We are charlie kirk parody but with Alpharius
>>97120006>the main reasons most people don't play it is the lack of faction variety 40k has.Everyone literally wants to play space marines though
>>97120006>Counterpoint: 30k has a way better ruleset than modern 40knot really.
>>97120029dunno, ask /pol/
>>97120033Which is why everyone plays the horus heresy and nobody plays 40k.
>>97119931Why wouldn't they be able to maintain a rotary cannon or any other weapon system? Hundreds or thousands of years of muscle memory and hypno indoctrinated training doesn't disappear just because they've gone insane and grown horns. Nevermind the uncountable number of slaves they have. Do you think all the lobotomized servitors on the chaos ships just stop functioning? Its pretty easy to assume chaos marines have plenty of time to lube his weapons up and still have tech priests on their ships. Plus even if a little pin or spring from the feed tray or something gets lost or damaged, the warp could just grow a little daemon in there to take it's place. Orks needing magic to make weapons work takes way more mental gymnastics than chaos using a gun designed 40000 years ago
>>97119969If they included Great Crusade into the game (beyond stuff like the burning of Prospero), there would be more reason to add xenos. But HH is about Imperium vs. Imperium.
>>97119931Autistic retard nothing in 40k makes logical sense its rule of cool above all
Really, how would 30k orks and Eldtards differ from their 40k counterparts? It woukd be super easy to give them rules. Militias are just as insignificant and have been given half assed rules
>>97119931>real lore. >Like >I use to argue with SM players back in the day that said CSM should haven't assault cannons because they can't maintain rotary cannonsYou sound like a faggot that has no idea of what 40k actually entails.
Remember that we could've had
>>97120034Point me a single thing the 10th edition ruleset does better.
>>97120079He's comming, be it sooner or later. With how things are turning out with 40k he might even have 2 models within 10 years. Can you imagine how many basedtards would cream their caged clitties when the ultimate "centre piece" is announced?
>>97120079That sounds retarded
>>97120102it got me to date a woman.
>>97120038You'd think? Every is in love with primarch slop, all the bitching about primaris, space marine are the only model line selling. HH SHOULD be leaving 40k in the dust, but it's not, and I'm honestly baffled as to why. Maybe all the non space marine players combine are edging out the difference
>>97120079it wouldn't be a cool miniature
>>97120108Not for Horus Heresy, since the Emperor actually fought in it
>>97120119>I'm honestly baffled as to why.It's almost as if your assumptions are wrong.
>>97120119It's because nobody wants the same 5 walking poses across their entire army recycled in every armor mark
Do these terminator pauldrons fit on the new terminators?
>>97120119>HH SHOULD be leaving 40k in the dust, but it's not, and I'm honestly baffled as to why.Few reasons:>40k is way better known as a setting than 30k (most important reason)>40k is translated to 12 languages, 30k is only in 3>until very recently 30k was a dozen times more expensive and required FW kits while 40k was sold in 3rd party retail stores (which makes 70% of GW's sales btw)>40k has more faction variety and while space marines are still the most popular faction, even the space marine players don't want to play against space marines all the time>40k has actual marketing and transmedia presence, 30k doesn't
>>97119930Why are you crying about something for another game thoughbeit
>>97120131That's no different than it's always been>b-but I can slightly shift the torso left or right!Wow, so versatile, I'm sure everyone will notice in the sea of marines
>>97120131People used to buy the 3 monopose cadian set a hundred times to make all of their infantry squads.
>>97120139Because it got brought up you fucking retard
>>97120130>It's almost as if space marines and primarchs are not popular
>>97120136>>40k has more faction varietythis is the only true and valid point
>>97120131The secondaries really hated this post
>>97120131Marines used to have 3 sets of legs and monopose metal special guns. In 2ed they had a single body for every marine.
>>97120150They aren't as much as you think, most evidently.
>>97120157Show us these mythical super customizable models that us secondaries have been missing all this time then, enlighten us
>>97120166>The entire primaris range>The entire 40k firstborn range
>>97120165>most evidently.>zero evidence
>>97120165Go ahead and look up the most played armies in 40k and get back to me
>>97120171>The entire primaris rangeFixed bodies just like 30k.>The entire 40k firstborn range3 leg poses, 3 arm poses. You could rotate the torsos but more than 5 degrees either side looked like shit.
>>97120171Ah yes who could forget those super unique, customizable walking poses that we're missing>primarisWe weren't even talking about primaris
>>97120181SOVL
>>97120146I dunno ask /hhg/
>>97120175how popular do you think dark angels, emperor children and thousand sons are compared to necrons, orks and tyranids?
>>97120177Primaris has 5 poses per unit30k has 5 poses per army lmao>>97120181That sprue has infinitely more variation than the 30k sloppa sculpts>N-no those don't count(you) tried
>>97120191Dark Angels have gotten a lot of attention over the years but orks the most popular out of that list
>>97117367>mfw I will never have a bolt revolver like this
>>97120194The only meaningful difference with that kit compared to the new hh kits is that you could theoretically post the torso 90° to one side but no one would ever do that because it would look retarded. The legs are just as static, the arms are just as static, the heads have the same amount of movement>b-but the hand isn't attached! I can totally use that hand that is posed specifically to hold the bolter for so many things that definitely won't look retarded!
>>97120191>Spoon-feed me>B-buh ECLol
>>97120219>Having less options is GOODTake a hint, real HHfags don't even use the GW plastic kits, they get recasts of the old kits or proont
>>97120225The only options you have with the old kit is to do something nonsensical that no one would ever do, and the only way to make them usable for something that doesn't look stupid would be to cut the model which you can do with any model
>>97120233You have a wide range of orientations for the torso that would look natural on every pair of legsYou're the only one trying to move goalposts you pitiful little /v/ermin
>>97119360Primaris are harder to makeThey require optimized equipment and rare materials Cawl has access to but other legions dont have access to specialized machanicus facilities like thatSeveral chapters still distrust primaris and consider fucking with the geneseed to be soft-heresy
>>97120190I did. They called me a faggot.
I dont give a fuck about the lore.
Cute Eldar boy feet
>>97120290I don't give a fuck
>>97120290Ill give 2x the fucks thenTo balance things out
>>97120292We got it chief, you enjoy the company of Eldar men.
>I like old marines>Nooooo you're a fake grog no models no games secondary!!1!
>>97120282They weren't wrong
>>97120337you can very easily disprove all of those accusations :)
>>97120345But I'm not gay.
>>97120337>I looooooooove firstborn and hate heckin fricking blackpilled primarisPeople wouldn't have an issue with what you're saying if it wasn't the most parroted line of nomodels and nogames everywhere
>>97120135No one here has seen a model irl
>>97120337It is kinda surprising how often those two points line up with each other and aren't wrong
>>97120131The "walking poses" complaint is the most retarded shit ever when the one thing these models have NEVER done is posable legs. Regardless of what else on the model can be shifted or changed the legs are NEVER adjustable, even when they're in multiple pieces
>>97120361>bad people say it so you must be bad person Ok comrade.
>>97120337Nothing wrong with liking the old shitBut yeah it looks like we are slowly moving towards primaris
>>97120387>he has no models
>>97120410This nigga postin peas in the 40kg lollmao even
>>97120410>no rebuttal
>>97120420>no models
>>97120420>>97120387Meant for
>>97118873>Serpents BroodWhat would this be? A corsair detachment?
Man Greedy Gold is the worst shit ever I hate Army Painter so goddamn much
>>97118873>a death company detachmentshameless
>>97120427The Cosmic Serpent is the symbol for Saim HannWave Serpents are their transports so it could be a transport DetachmentSky Serpents are the Corsair band of Duke SliscusMalys 's Kabal the Poisoned Tongue has a Serpent symbol
>>97120427>>97120456Also related to Harlequins, so may have something to do with them.
>>97120447Get the scale75 alchemy paints, I don't use any metallics besides those now they blow everything else out of the water. Vallejo has really good non-metallics but I've never used any of their metallic paint before so I have no idea how it compares to citadel/ap/scale75
>>97120427>The Cosmic Serpent was said to have a unique relationship with Cegorach and his Harlequins, the serpent befriended the Laughing God and freely gave his aid, even allowed him to ride upon his back. The Harlequins name their vehicles for the Serpent's brood, the Weaver Serpents: Starweaver, Voidweaver, and Skyweaver.Also the namesake of Saim-Hann and the father of the fire dragons. A Harlequin vehicle detachment seems super niche, so I'd guess this is more of a transport detachment buffing those vehicles and the Falcon and Wave Serpent too
>>97120447I like their fanatic line and everything I've tried from it has been nice. Everything outside fanatic that I've tried from them has been the worst version of whatever colour I was trying at the time though
>‘Ke,’ he whispered, just loud enough to be heard over her searing torch. ‘There is a matter I wanted to discuss. I saw you eating in the command gallery. Did you steal those rations?’ >Ke’s cheeks warmed. ‘I was hungry.’>‘Did you not think of the wretched examiner you stole them from? If they would be hungry?’>Ke wavered. ‘I suppose I didn’t, por’vre.’>‘I thought as much. If you had, you surely would have offered some.’>Ke lowered her arm. ‘What?’>Orr tossed a hand. ‘You would have stolen some for me, too. I happen to like stolen food.’>‘I wouldn’t have turned it down,’ Jules said.>‘Who could have?’ Orr said. ‘Sixes, how do you appraise this young engineer’s selfish individualism?’>By the window, the reflected gold from the street lumens glinted in Swordlight’s helmet lenses. Her helmet link clicked. ‘I only eat stolen food.’>Ke paused, glancing between them. This was not like when her engineering enclave mocked her. She felt like she had a place in this humour. She simply didn’t know her part. ‘Is this how you jest?’>‘This is no jest,’ Orr said. ‘This, young Ke, is a matter of grave–’>‘What is this frivolous discussion?’ Yor’i interrupted. ‘Are you four so idle?’>Orr softly cleared his throat, the hints of amusement evaporating from his tone. ‘Contrition, mighty one. I was merely expounding the importance of–’>‘Stealing food?’>‘My sincerest contrition, exalted one.’>Yor’i’s breathing sounded on the other end, calm and steady and slower than the decay of stars. Whatever words bred in the ethereal’s mind, he left them unspoken with restive tolerance.>‘That fool’s wit serves you well,’ Swordlight said to Orr.
>>97120210That's a cool revolver.
>>97120484Greedy gold has just been a chunky mess no matter what I do with it and I didn't even realize it was the only gold I own until now. The only store near me only has citadel and army painter so I might just grab one of the citadel ones so I can finish this guy
>>97120468>fuegan and fire dragons in a wave serpent has been the most consistent powerful thing for eldar this edition>make a detachment specifically for it
>>97120210Why not? You poor or somethin?
>>97120487What is this supposed to be about? I read the whole thing and Just wanted Marines to bust through the door and vaporize all of them.
>>97120447Genuine skill issue
>>97120487Love Elemental Council.
>>97120427This was straight up a formation Harlequins had in 7th edition, it was a vehicle focused one
>>97120462vallejo's steel and silvers are good, but their golds are trash
>>97120517Insanely overdesigned
>>97120517Not enough gubbins, too easy to paint
>>97120517joey's wearing every piece of clothing chandler owns haha
>>97120514What about it?
>>97120487>swordlightI don't have the patience to read any of the bl shit but I absolutely would not have the patience to sit through 1500 pages of "The adventures of Swordlight, and his rival Axedark"
Why does this thing think I'm going to reply to it?
>>97120517Why is he carrying around spirit stones
>>97120503That would be really funny since they're nerfing the fuck out of them a day later.
>>97120517
>>97120468>harlequin vehicles don't benefit at all in the eldar bike detachmentweird
>>97120499Retributor armour is very smooth and lovely to work with but is a less warm tone. Just to clarify. We are talking about the base paints and not the sprays right? I do love retributor spray as well though
>>97120544This one is way cooler
>>97120529Stop coming here
>>97120558I have the regular greedy gold, online it seems people like the spray
I like orks :D
>>97120544>Sigmar, the unlimited blade works
>>97120544I'm not sure any of the kits these bits were sourced from are still carried by GW. It's only the flaming skull head that I'm not sure of. The others are gone.
>>97120517I'm so glad the community all decided this guys shit is slop. It's one thing to be a literal trash pile of bits, but the fact that everything is covered in mouldlines, super glue frosting, nubs and gaps is too much. He's since dialed back the amount of bits he uses, mentioning costs rather than admitting it looks like shit, but is still slopping bits together poorly.
>>97120614>>97120517I dont know who this guy is. But I am only impressed if he actually paints the minis.Just gluing random shit on a static pose model is not that impressive.
>>97120611Most of the bits were aos1 stormcast that are all squatted. But those conversions are almost a decade old now
>>97120614Yeah even if you were gonna do something super over the top like that you would have to sculpt it for it to have any chance of looking decent, and you would have to be a REALLY good sculptor
>>97120636He does not paint the miniatures outside spraying them one colour and washing them
>>97120658GW squatted more Stormcast kits in the last couple years than some 40k ranges have kits total.
>>97120687This guy singlehandedly kept AoS afloat.
>>97120678Yes they squatted the kits that people spent 10 years clowning on and then all unanimously agreed that the 3e sculpts were better. But like anything, there's historical revisionists that will tell you they loved the old designs despite owning none. Very similar to the dynamic we have in 40k with firstborn but somehow the likelihood of someone who owns models complaining about nustormcast is even lower than firstbornlets if you can believe it
>>97120687There's two sets of volkmar's throne statue wings which at the time he made this monstrosity would've been very expensive to get, this monstrosity would've cost minimum $300 but more likely $500-$600
>>97120722a good chunk of firstbornlets here are just shitposters farming for (You)s since you'll always get at least one retard that gets triggered by the same bait posted for the thousandth time
>>97120722I still really like the various paladins, stormcast should've just been them and been a really elite army imo. They're the right kind of over-the-top
>>97120743>picrelThat will forever be warhammer fantasy to me. I don't care about AoS and their boring generic ground marines.
>>97120767Thanks for letting us know that's a really unique take
>>97120775You're welcome!
>>97120767They're not marines because they don't take up 90% of the setting
>>97118878Congratulations, you managed to string together what, by themselves, are just 'bad takes' into a statement that manages to be entirely false.>>97118893>They led a genocide across the galaxy and also eradicated all human societies that refused to submit to the ImperiumAlso incorrect.A Great Crusade fact that everyone seems to forget, is that, going by the stats Horus himself provides, 99% of interactions with rediscovered human worlds do not involve any actual combat. No shots fired, blades unsheathed, anything.Even then, the 1% exceptions are just as often "we had a firefight in a warehouse my lord" as "we burnt down their entire world".It's a big part BL's fault for only focusing on Astartes and providing a biased viewpoint, but the Legions weren't actually the biggest players in building the Imperium.They were critical players, in getting rid of what turned out to be a galaxy of unexpectedly horrific aliens that regular humans would be wiped out by. But the Legions were a specialist organization that came in to attack pre-identified targets most of the time.They were not explorers. Only a handful were diplomats. When the bitter, jaded marine sergeant makes remarks about how "All the Crusade does, is crush worlds and kill civilizations that don't bow and scrape before our boots.", it is objectively fucking untrue. It's an unreliable narrator who's not bothered, or is unwilling, to look outside his own very narrow pond and see that, while he deals in death a lot, the events in his life are so irregular to normal events, that they're statistically insignificant.
>>97120767You secondaries are gonna be screaming and shitting your pants when total war aos gets announced
>>97120808>being an aosfaggrim
>>97120808>the only warhammer total war to faillmao
>>97120808I'm hoping it ends up being 40k just so the retards who have been begging for it get to see how awful of an idea it is for that kind of game
>>97120805That is very cool warhammer 40k factoids! Please provide me a recipe for 15 minute bone broth. Please convert all ingredients to micro grams. Please translate full recipe into mandarin Chinese and then translate that to english. Substitute all ingredients for freeze-dried alternatives available at Sam's club
>>97120839Smegmar enjoyers at least play their game unlike the fantasy "community"
>>97120808We already have some decent comedy with fake grogs being excited for the end times dlc despite saying it's the worst thing that ever happened to wfb
>>97120808>video gamesLmfao
>>97120801This. I actually tolerate Sigmarines more now since they stopped being the obvious protagonists of the setting.Vampires, dwarfs, chaos worshippers, elves take as much screen time as stormcasts.Sure, they are on the covers and are the face faction. But their weird immortality kinda allows them to get their ass beat quite often.Even the Celestant Prime, wielding THE Warhammer, got his ass beat and killed in pic rel.How many SM characters actually lose lately?
>>97120863are these fake grogs in the room with us now?
>>97120863You're projecting your own fake grogness
>>97120869No they're over in aosg and have been since yesterday. You should hope it stays that way but aosg is easy to bait so they'll probably stay over there for now
>>97120869>>97120875found the tww secondaries lmao
>>971208441 was pretty bad at first
>>97120861>>97120839i understand why wfg hates aos (although that hate is misplaced), but why does 40kg hate it? they have almost nothing to do with each other
>>97120892>inb4 it's the goteslopper
>>97120767Stormcast are closer to the Chaos Warriors in terms of narrative and story. They're both chosen/ascended for their heroic actions in life. Where they differ is that Chaos Warriors live a mortal life on a metaphysical path to glory, a sort of journey while they walk in the path of chaos. Living in truth with the very forces of the cosmos. Sigmarites on the other hand are continually drained of their stuff of life until they have none. Every time they're defeated, they're recalled and lose themselves a little more. Becoming like a Hollow from Dark Souls, for example. None of this is like the space marines, post-human supersoldiers that were modified after birth by techno-magic and brainwashed into a playing piece for a space wizard's grand game against the universe itself. And anyway, every bit of design philosophy that the Stormcast have inherited from Space Marines, the Marines first got them from the Chaos Warriors. Everything you love about Warhammer, you owe to the Chaos Warrior, Games Workshop's own perfect creation.
>>97120863It's because most of them say it's bad because their favorite youtuber told them how bad it was. Most of them don't even read the supposedly good stuff that got "ruined"
>fake grogs, nomodels and secondariestwo minute hate
>>97120900Most people here just hate everything
>>97120900>but why does 40kg hate it?its what mr valrak told me. Also its denying me my berserkers on juggernaunts.
>>97120900well we hate slop simple as. but the aosfags always show up to talk about how some fucking release of cow elves or overweight brown barbarian women are blowing 40k out of the water
>>97120909Too true
>>97120904End Times was trash though.
>>97120917We hate you for good reason
>>97120844Yeah it might fail as hard as TOW did as a system lmao
>>97120915>well we hate slop simple aswhere do I even begin with this.
>>97120912Valrak doesn't tell anyone to hate anything (except Iron Warriors). He just doesn't give a fuck about AoS
>>97120885>aosg is easy to baiteven easier than this place?
>>97120915>aosfags always show upNever happens, it's always the other way around
>>97120892Pretending you have any idea what it was like in the fantasy gaming groups at the time is not going to help you.
>>97120923The irony is not lost on me
>>97120918And fantasy was so good that it made less money than paint
My potatoes taste like fish. This will affect my hobbying today greatly.
>>97120931you don't own a single wfb mini thoughbeit
>>97120936Have you aosfags taken up the end times as part of your side?
When a random who/anon says "we" I don't take them seriously.
>>97120900Console war faggotry. Tribalism. A lot of people are also exclusively into fantasy or scifi and not both. This leads to people feeling the need to defend their tastes, and the easiest way to do that without saying anything constructive/admitting it's not to your taste is to simply state "X is bad" or "only (people I don't like) play X". You used to see it in video games with the whole Sega vs Nintendo beef. But people do the same about anything, like trying and have a 100% truthful conversation with a stranger about domestic beer, or coffee shops, or clothing, or music, or literally everything where there are multiple stances to take. It's easier to call the other guy a gay retard than it is to try and understand why he likes something from his perspective
>SM2 Ultramarines>Rogue Trader had a Space Wolf>DoW4 has Dark Angelswhat game are Blood Angels being put in?
>>97120948Many have been saying this.>>97120958space hulks sequel.
>>97120928No he's full of shit, whenever the singular shitposter pops up in aosg it ends up with him being fully ignored when he spams "why did X flop" or him getting pissed when we make fun of how dead tow is that even their general can't stay afloat
>>97120946I have fantasy minis from all editions save 4th.So shut your whore mouth.
>>97120958Hopefully none, ever. Bury the faggot and his degens.
>>97120915>>97120917>1 minute apart exactlyKeep the trip on
>>97120958Hateful Boyfriend
>>97120967No you don'tYou have 3 basecoated goats and a couple SoB lmao
>>97120967>can't post a single onelmaoat least try posting a renamed reddit image next time, secondary
>>97120947They don't care about the end times because they're playing AoS
>>97120970Stop trying to make our thread be about your boyfriend
>>97120964I would argue that responding to it is biting the bait. But sure anon. Keep replying to him, I'm sure he'll go away if you keep giving him attention, it worked so well with the fecalploppa after all
I do actually think lumineth have some of the best helemets among elves. Although thats mostly isolated to the vanari and snicari stuff. Only thing that can compete are the fire dragons and fuegon helmets. if all the elves had helemts that cool I would be in trouble.
>>97120975>>97120979>n-n-no you d-d-don'tcry more, you projecting cuck
>>97120967Here come the basecoated gotes everyone
>>97120915>well we hate slop simple as
>>97121001Let's see those badly painted goats again!
>>97120949AoS is corpo goyslop at its worse. Created by suits, bean counters and by HR committees. Why would anyone want to understand that perspective lmao
>>97120947My tribal chief, Archaon, won the End Times. Now I want Abaddon to carry Chaos to 2-0 on destroying Warhammer settings. That would be cinema.
>>97121013>AoS is corpo goyslop at its worse. Created by suits, bean counters and by HR committees.Exactly, which is why it's so popular amongst 40k fans
>>97121013The only difference between fantasy and aos is that aos is successful and fantasy wasn't
>>97120986>they don't care>dude got bent out of shape calling the end times trashNow that I think about it the end times is pretty much a prologue or prequel of sorts for AoS.
>>97121013You proved his point immediately. Congratulations on the shocking lack of self awareness
>>97121024please.
>>97121001Fucking lmao. Nothing wrong with knowing wfb only through a video game anon, just stay in your containment thread and don't bother people that actually participate with the hobby
>>97121037>dude got bent out of shape calling the end times trashWho? When? What?
>>97120915>we hate slop.>40kg poster
>>97121048>doubling down on projectionspathetic
>>97121013How many layers of irony are you on right now?
>>97121013Why won't you show us your badly painted goats again?
>>97121037You don't even know what you're mad about at this point
>>97121050follow the replies retard
>>97121053>still can't post a single miniatureyou're almost as much of a clown as decalfag
>>97121037>dude>Now that I think about it the end times is pretty much a prologue or prequel of sorts for AoS.Its not the 30k to aos if thats what you're asking. Endtimes is more for fb than it is for aos if anything. Only thing that matters is that the world blows up, and some characters kinda dying certain ways.
>>97120958they were already in gladius
>>97121057not your boogyman, schizoid
>>97121013>best models in the entire company's range>novels constantly improving the setting>new lore with every battletome, the story consistently moves forward>GHB system ensures I play with the same rules, barring hotfixes, for the entire year, no drastic changes until next GHB>very few complete blowouts in games without wide skill discrepancies between players, best balanced rules in competitive and casual play>the best narrative/campaign books in the entire history of Warhammer.There are so many reasons to collect, paint, read, kitbash, and play Age of Sigmar. It is my very favorite part of Warhammer. I enjoy WHFB, I love 40k, but I adore Age of Sigmar.
>>97121068Mhmm whatever you say goteslopper
>>97121077Ask your fat mother to bring you your pills, you know how you get when you forget to take them.
>>97121077>everyone I don't like is my schizocrush
>>97121086>>97121090Oh look you finally remembered how to phonepost
>>97121076I just like how innovative chaos is in aos. Sylvaneth and the general realm of ghyran is cool too.
>>97121086Don't get testy just because nobody likes TOW to the point that at its height of sales it couldn't even breach the top 10 secondary-kun
>>97121094lizards are fucking fantastic after the refresh also
>>97121097Shouldn't you be buying another copy of Dominion for 20 quid
>>97121053>I swear I'm not a nomodels and can't prove itJust post your half painted gotes and get it over with. It's not like you'd have to take a new picture I'm sure they're still in the same state as the last time you were shaking and crying over aos
>>97121105Shouldn't you be buying anything at all? It's not like TOW is selling out anywhere so it's real easy for you to source those boxes!
>>97120135Anyone?
>>97121105Shouldn't you be buying one of the tk and bretonnia boxes that are still shelf warming so gw doesn't kill the game you don't play again
>>97121094I also really like the Sylvaneth. But I think if I went with an order army at this point, I want to wait and see how Cities of Sigmar shakes out with the elves/dwarves/humans in the same urban fantasy faction. If they continue the elves and dwarves in cities, I will probably pick them up. Their cannons are my favorite artillery pieces out of the setting. The Ghyran campaign book is so cool, by the way. With custom faction terrain and custom regiments of renown.
>>97121109>>97121116Dominion still a sore spot for the aosfags lmao
>>97121111We're busy arguing about two other games
>>97121092>it's (you), (you), noone else, all the voices in my head are (you)!!!
>>97121094>how innovative chaos isYup, the original slate of warbands in Warcry are still some of the dopest Chaos models GW ever made.
>>97121116Hey now, don't be mean to ToW. That will be a source of new Chaos Warrior projects for me. I want to get my 2026 CW refresh so I can paint more of my favorite models.
>>97121124Sorry can't hear you over the sound of aos having nonuple the amount of players as tow Go back to /twwg/ /v/ermin
>>97121124>Heh, they made the same shitpost I did, they must be mad
>>97121140also jeezus the old phone camera really did me dirty on this one lmao
>>97121142>>97121143Selling fast!
>>97120135Seems fine >image limit reachedLmao sorry anon
>>97121076I wish all the deamons from AoS were playable in 40k
>>97121156This doesn't really work when the game you're defending is having the exact same problem. Now can you faggots take this to a relevant thread
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>>97121156Cathay still clogging shops and sites worldwideNow that the dust has settled, why did TOW flop?
>>97121201People liked the idea of tow more than tow itself
>>97120958Killing Stalking
>GW decides to kill the WHF setting>End Times>Chaos wins>is followed by AoS>ChAoSJames, you son of a gun.
