Previous: >>97117700>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQAre there any alt arts that you simply must have for a card?
>>97126436>TqYes
If I can afford it, I will always use the art of a card by Richard Kane Ferguson. Probably going to use some of my tax return to buy his more expensive ones like FoW and Vamp Tutor.
>TQI literally hear the card... sadly I never got this art and it cost too much, but it's on my wishlist.
I'm the world's biggest proxy defender but I only build budget decks so I don't have any cards worth proxying.I have some decks I play online that are in the $100+ range that I might proxy eventually but they're just dumb fun aggro decks. They're also way weaker than my actual decks so it would feel weird to spend lots of money on a deck that's worse than what I have (low 4, but I can sandbag to play with 3s)Genuinely didn't understand people who are anti proxy, but everyone I've met who is anti proxy is someone who has spent hundreds if not thousands on the game. No judgement; spend money on your hobbies. I feel like people get anxious about the pubstomp arms race boogeyman and forget that anyone can build a cancer deck whether it's proxied or not. The whole format is about intent, not just building the strongest whatever. Otherwise every proxy guy would just be playing cedh.
How's your stacks looking bros? We still holdin?
>>97126436>TqEternal witness fits in a lot of green decks. I always go out of my way to use the Terese version
Okay i finished putting together a casual Krrik list, could i get a review please?https://moxfield.com/decks/4yGOAP2Ey0-BQ-iljS7cCgIf you have any suggestions for other stuff i should include i'd be happy to hear those too.
what landfall commanders do you enjoy playing?got a couple of landfall goodies laying around after dismantling my hazezon deck and not sure what to do with them
Are any of the FF scene boxes actually worth it at MSRP of $40ish?
>>97126627Yeah I would say they're all worth it at that price desu
How is this garbage 55$. It's a shitty card unless you run it as a commander and even then there's better options.
>>97126623Not a fan of zimone as a character but this card is so much fun. I respect that they're giving her the weird cards
>>97126639Because people want to bang Toph
>>971266391) Its not a shitty card.2) its a jumpstart only card so its supply is low.
>>97126623Thalia and the Gitrog Monster, I like hatebear that enables landfalling
today, aside from normal setups (cards in penny sleeves inside shipping shield/toploader taped inside invoice in business envelope), I got:cards in penny sleeve wrapped in comically tiny (3"x4") invoice inside soft toploader in postcard envelopedollar+ cards in penny sleeve in toploader taped to penny sleeve containing remaining subdollar cards, taped inside mini invoice in business envelope (room for package to shift inside envelope). invoice had most of the cards under a dollar highlighted and (best guess) <cmc><color> sharpie'd next to the more-than a dollar, no idea what this meanscards unsleeved in soft toploader taped to both sides of business envelope, no invoice.cards inside a slice of binder page cut to 1x3 card pockets, wrapped in invoice. binder pocket filled with commons and rules cards from other card gamesalso one of these was from a shop named "the brother's war"? does hasbro/wizards restrain themselves so much from the secondary market that they don't go after people naming their stores after expansions, or is it because of how generic all of those words are? like "brother's war" is fine, but if I named myself "return to innistrad" I'd get a letter?
>>97126436tq: I just make my own
>>97126709>not the tree of the lostone job
>>97126436>TQI prefer original printings when I can get them, RKF and Rob Alexander are some of my favorites.
>>97126503>I feel like people get anxious about the pubstomp arms race boogeyman and forget that anyone can build a cancer deck whether it's proxied or notIt would be less common if only the financially irresponsible could do it.
>>97126737>It would be less common if only the financially irresponsible could do it.its ok you can call us wealthy
>>97126652It is not a 55$ power level card. That's for sure.
>>97126750poor people can waste money too anon either way it's a waste of money and either case could pubstomp a game. point stands that if you make it free it becomes more common.
>>97126639While a lot of it is Jumpstart's scarcity, I think a lot of people just really like Toph as well as the Earthbend mechanic.
>>97126639Simic landfall with her and Katara? Seems like an obvious combo. Plus earthbend is pretty strong and relatively unique mechanic for green
POST YOUR FAV MTG MEMES PT 4!!!!
>>97126709Im certain there is an artbook you could take from.
>>97126556You can't make a casual krrik list
>>97126556Lmao wtf>Dark Ritual >Bloodthirsty ConquererUr trollin when u say casual>>97126872This
Which way UB haters?
>>97126882Bloodthirsty Conquerer is a casual card though.
>>97126882Nothing wrong with either of those cards if they're not used for combos?
>>97126556Is is a pubstomp deck.You are showing up 3 saying "dohohoho I only have one game changer is this" only to ass blast everyone because you deck is at the synergy level of a high 4.
>>97126895Annoyed that my friend has a copy and I don't. I'm stuck with shitty bident of thassa.
>>97126882If Sol Ring is ok why not Dark Ritual?
>>97126916You have to be trolling, this deck barely even has anything particularly synergistic going on outside of the extort memes
>>97126889>Katara and Toph in bathtowels>Effect based on tapping your creatures>With a "pump" effectThey knew what they were doing.
>>97126946That's not pump. Pump is a temporary +X/+X powerboost. Counters aren't pump.
>>97126889Toph and Katara obviously
>>97126889>Do you want to be gay, or do you want to be a pedophilia This is why I don't play green outside of insects
>>97126889Neither.
>>97126981So you either eat the bugs or you're a bugman.
>>97126989I fug the bug
>>97126503>the proxy arms raceDoesn't exist if you're not friends with retards. This is a (You) problem. Just because antiproxyfags are too stupid and unpleasant to attract a grown up group doesn't mean the rest of us are.
Alright now that I "finished" my previous deck revamp/review/update, my next project can be:> Draven> HashatonSomething else?I guess Im in the mood for something big and Black
>>97126503>The whole format is about intent, not just building the strongest whatever.Dont be silly this applies to 60 cards as wellJust because a grinder plays pioneer doesnt mean he cant play legacy too, he just chooses not to grind it
Do you tell people you run proxies?
>>97126639fotm and an under supported but popular mechanic
What is the most Jewish card?
>>97127035I tell them I run proxies and then don't
>>97126929Correct, Sol Ring is not okay
>>97126639It gives you experience counters for lands dropping. It's a good support piece for any green commander who wants them
>>97127035It's pretty obvious when they see the rat cards with tits or stupid memes, but yeah i tell them anyway
If you run non-basic lands your deck isn't casual.
>>97126897>>97126896WOW for a deck to be casual it just doesn't have infinite combos! Lets ignore the commander lets you cast shit for essentially free!
>>97127067You can do better.
>>97127067It's going to set your life total on fire for doing it, nigga.
>>97127020Guess who's more likely to be a retard though? Proxiers that proxy only for power that dont even know how their deck worksLike this one >>97123168 that was literally just last thread, yet more proof proxyfags have no restraint
>>97126981Don't be a dick man, Israelis have to make that decision every day.
>>97126981>preferring to see young girls instead of hairy dudes means you want to fuck the former>he says this as he runs over people in GTA 5
>>97127108I don't play open world slop
>>97127112didn't you know? anime causes pedophilia just like violent video games causes mass shootings
>>97126639It is by far the easiest way to get experience counters in mono-green
>>97126709Is MTGcardbuilder the best way to make proxies now instead of Magic Set Editor?
>>97127120anime doesn't cause pedophilia, pedophilia caused anime. just see Monogatari
>>97127133pedophilia create anime just like mass shooters create violent video games fr fr
>>97126514Wotc really always had the foil pringle problem huh
>>97127030>Dont be silly this applies to 60 cards as wellIn 60 card formats you are genuinely trying to win as effectively as possible. That doesn't, or at least shouldn't, be the mentality of commander.
>>97127061well,I mean,technically
Jumpstar boosters were a mistake. Why divide the shit you can get even more? Collector boosters weren't enough?
>>97127151Sadly the raped slaves eat it up.
>there were no female swampbenders at the Day of Black Sun (there no no female swampbenders in the show period)>there were no southern waterbenders except Katara and the notoriously misogynistic northern tribe didn't let women be warriors>there were no Fire Nation protestersThere's more I'm sure but these are the worst offenders.
>>97127151they're for new players anon and honestly it is pretty funny for the lineups in jumpstart to be "nerf bat, wiffle ball, glock, sock'em boppers, snowballs, katana, pillow"
>>97127149>muh intent!if you're going to be very anal about this garfield is a unique case as he wasn't hyper competitive but at the same time was pro MLD and mind twisting people, ofc that's not casual commander, just imagine the number of people gavin has to appease for him to ban MLD in the lower brackets, so much for intentand also just as a competitive game can be made casual, a casual game can also be made competitive, it goes both ways
>ctrl f Teysa>zero resultsLets fix that.
>>97127183Oh sure, I get banned for posting cool tokens but its fine for you to post a porn artist's picture of a former whore
>>97127154that's viacom being lax, compare it to how lawyerish people can be about other IPalso no surprise wotc is being lefty again by showing wahmen and fight the power BS where it doesn't belong>also as a bonus tell me the last time wotc made a mono green character the main bad guy of a story arc? you can't>racist nissa doesn't count that was retconned
>>97127150My wife
>>97127044>>97126497You can get it for 90 if you buy the Japanese version (in Japan)
>>97127198>evil Spiderman: fucking bitch I have to behead this male prostitute I just fucked and snort some more cocaine
>>97127144>put metal inside paper>surprised that it is affected by humidityBut sure, blame "quality control" smdh
>>97127187If you're talking about the tokens that i think you're talking about, i'm glad i reported you
>>97127035Yeah, I think it's stupid but I'll respect it if someone doesn't want to play with them. Though most of my proxies are basic lands so it just means I go down from four decks to two.
https://scryfall.com/search?as=full&q=o%3A%22experience+counter%22What are your thoughts on a wubrg experience counter proliferate deck?
>>97127229tbf etched foils are far more durable, ofc wotc will charge you more for it, but you can make metal inside paper curl if you really want it to or are just too stupidmy go to storage solution are satin towers and i've yet to find a reason to switch
>>97127154Captain there might be a dude with long hair.If I'm being real, I don't honestly care that much about any of this, but he's got no curves, broad shoulders, a wide chin and masculine eyebrows.Swampbenders is admittedly playing fast and loose with continuity; but nothing assures that there would have been no women among the Swampbenders.Similarly, Wartime Protestors is a little goofy only because the Fire nation has been propagandizing for decades. It seems like an art-direction error more than anything else though, because it would be 100% correct if it were occupied Earth Nation citizens protesting or rioting.I got nothing for Rallier. Once upon a time the southern tribe hypothetically had more waterbenders; its only in the time of the show they were pretty much bingo on them.Basically outside Wartime Protestors being a little weird, I think this is overthinking commons and uncommons filling packs.
>>97126721neat
>>97127242>Experience counter deckVery cool>wubrgvomit
>>97127035Yes, I ask both if they are okay with it, and if they are fine with what the proxies are.Only had one person say no and that was fairly recently.
>>97127253The Water Tribe Captain looks like AI fuckery too. >missing arm and weird mouth
Is it worth running two rampant growths now?
>>97127282His arm is there, though
>>97127285Why not?
>>97127274I don't know if this is based or cringe desu
>>97127285depends, if your commander is a 2 or 3 drop then no.
>>97127154Is that….. A cute white woman on my magic cards?nnnnnnNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>>97127285no because three visits and nature's lore are better
>>97127285Yes
>>97127315>asian artist draws pretty girl yet againI'm noticing
PRETTY WOMEN ON MY MAGIC CARDS? I DONT WANT THAT! no no no no no
People in the fire nation fucking wear shoes. This isn't canon
>>97127342yjk
>>97126436>Are there any alt arts that you simply must have for a card?No. Without almost no exception, the original art and printing is the superior version.
>>97127253Based lore enjoyer
>>97127342You can firebend with shoes on
I like this woman.
>>97127282>>97127290Huh
>>97127408Is he missing a hand?
>>97127154>No female swamp benders How do you think more swampbenders are made anon
>>97127377>>97127342Oh wait I read your post wrong
>>97127382Here have this.
>>97127315There were no white waterbenders btw>weird AI hand
>>97127342Have you ever done martial arts you fucking idiot? You don't train with shoes on
>>97127236Coomette got to post his gay ai slop too and didn't eat a report, glad to see constable dipshit's on the case
>>97127415Armless waterbenders were only in TLoK
>>97127187>Nude tokens images>Why did I get banned for posting that on a blue boardBig think.
>>97127471Actually I ate several reports and bans from they
>>97126889>This scene of naked hairy gay men in a communal bath is perfect for our children's card game!
>>97127497Crispy!
>>97127044Your mom.
>>97127497What are you supposed to do to fix this?
>>97126889>not bearsUB slop.
>>97127505the cost to fix cards with this bad of a curl would exceed the cost of just buying a new one
>>97127505Double//triple sleeve them.Buy some beef jerky or something else that comes with silica gel packets and put those packets with the bent foils in a zip lock for a few day
>>97127505Double sleeving helps but the real answer is don't buy foils
>>97127493You got those for spamming them retard.
>>97127505buy a few bags of beef jerky, save the silica packets and seal the cards with themonce they uncurl keep your cards in the humidor with your cigars when not in use
>>97127518Thanks for the report I guess
>>97127531Does this actually work
>opponents are hearthhull, edward m, kimbal>mfw turn 5
i swear to god drawing cards in naya if you don't go wide or tall on creatures feels so difficult.
>>97127543>card draw issues in red green and whiteHey man, I’ve got some bad news
>>97127541>hearthulljust abrade the ship with station on stack
>>97127548what's that
>>97127543What are you doing in Naya if it's not going wide or tall
>>97127531>cigarsNeither I nor anybody I know smokes.
>>97127566fightanbeing enraged
>>97127589Dinos are both wide and tall bro
>>97127589tutor for ripjaw raptor or dieor land a broodhatch nantuko and also have a shamanic ritual in hand, but if you hit a fatty broodhatch trigger you would be better off just casting overrun anyways. it sucks. feels like the deck's relegated to broken shit like wheels, scrolltax, or sylvan library.
>>97126981You don't get to choose, it's very obvious you're gay if you're caught up in fake moralities like that.
>>97127592not a dino deck edhrectard
>>97127592naya is both wide and tallliterally the opposite of dimir
>>97127592Ironically the best cards for Wayta are actually smaller things with Stuffy Doll-esque effects than huge dinos.
>>97127539>Does this actually workThe silica part does, curling is caused by moisture in the cardboard and those packets are made to suck the moisture out of the bags of jerkycurling is mostly caused by high humidity either in the deep south, a rainy season or a filthy apartment
>>97127555that's just one of many pingers
>Icetill still like 13 dollarsDamn it.
>>97127665it's in every landfall deck and in all of them it's a kill on sight card
>>97126436>Are there any alt arts that you simply must have for a card?Anything done by Lauren YS. That's a very small list, though.And yes, I own the fag Sol-ring and use it.
>>97127665I'm selling mine right now because landfall is boring.
>>97126639No one opens jumpstart. No clue why it has been like 5 years and no one gets it. If a card is a jumpstart card it will be a solid 500% more expensive than a main set card. People do not open these sets.Genereal Kreat is a fucking uncommon from Jumpstart foundations and costs 8 dollars. Not because she's a next level card, but because few copies exist in the wild because NO ONE BUYS THIS SHIT.
>>97127692>Genereal KreatI just pulled this thing 2 days ago and someone instantly bought it, there's legit demand for it somehow
>>97127684>>97127672I don't even want it because of landfall, I just want it because its an insect and grist and mothman mill too many lands
>>97127697Yes there is some demand but there is no supply. If there was a higher supply, she would not be 8 dollars. She is not a staple in goblin lists nor a super popular commander.Every fucking jumpstart card is like this. They always are.
>>97127707Kreat is literally just a worse Purphorous. Flat out
>2014, in high school>go to flea market and a guy is selling magic>mom was super religious and growing up barely allowed me to read harry potter or collect Pokemon>but these magic cards look so fucking cool >buy a random intro deck with a dragon card on it and take it home, marvel at the cool art with no understanding of what they are>one card in particular stood out to me as being super cool>next day mom makes me throw the cards outGot back into magic this year and finally tracked down the card I though was so cool. I had thought it might have been a phyrexian or eldrazi, but it was a sliver all long.
>>97127710I wasn't aware he made bodies while also pinging.
is it too much for bracket 3?
>>97127711>mom was super religious and growing up barely allowed me to read harry potter or collect Pokemonfunnily enough people in current year are also "super religious" and will froth at the mouth at you reading harry potter and watching anime with young children in it, roru rumao
>>97127719If you don't use it with a partner, no.
>>97127497Cursed imageDelet now
>>971277192c partner makes you highly suspicious, but on its face no its totally fine for B3
>>97127497At least you won't have issues picking up your cards without a mat. Silver linings
>>97127497Those are marked cards. Sorry bro you're disqualified.
>>97127494Let's not kid ourselves and pretend Magic's fanbase is even 5% children at this point.
>>97127515>Buy some beef jerky or something else that comes with silica gel packets and put those packets with the bent foils in a zip lock for a few dayWhat witchcraft is thisYou're messing with dangerous forcesI wouldn't want to upset God
>>97127505Live in specific locations on Earth that do not have the specific climate that causes this.
>>97127760It only works if you wave your dick about them shouting,"give me your hardness curled cards"
>>97127719I have a budget bracket two with him and pic related as bird tribal commanders. Fun deck in low power tables, have to loudly announce every counter because people dont realize the rocks they cast or their manadorks are also spells
>>97127754If every card is like this then they aren't marked because all 100 are identical in their "mark"
>>97127609I dont know if I believe this. I dont have the mist experience with MTG foils but I had/have a lot of Pokemon foils. The ADV era in particular had some real bad curlers. I live in an area that doesnt rain, is fairly dry, and this shit still happened to me.
>>97127733you can't see pornhub in like half the states because christians are in charge right now and you're still virtue signaling over this shit
>>97127783He covered his bases by adding "filthy apartment" so he can just claim an insult on you to explain why he was wrong
>>97127756I went to the Avatar pre-release and there was a guy and his son with matching glasses, hats and ties. The kid kept asking if we could play Commander. I felt like I was in a collectible selling anime meeting a filler character.
>>97127789Feelings don't care about your facts
>>97127497
>>97127789>>97127800i like how your only retort is mentioning pornhub which has nothing to do with potter and pokemon kek seethe more>christians are in charge right nowyou lot have proven to be far more insufferable than the people who censor god gundam into burning gundam ever were
> My opponent picks up my commander to read it and just says "pringles"
>>97127794kamen kino
>>97127819Nah the people in current charge are undeniably worse
>Player reaches over and just picks peoples cards up without askingI am personally not all that autistic about this, but it is indeed rude as fuck and I am astonished by how many people do this. Easily the majority in my experience.I guess because a lot of them are newbies with precons who cannot comprehend others having cards worth triple digits on the field.
>>97127826is that so? sucks to be you i guess
>>97127756Never was. Even 15 years ago I didn't really see kids playing unless their parents played and dragged them in. People who want to pretend this game is for kids and not gen x and millennials are delusional people whose view on culture does not flow with time.
>>97127828>Player reaches over and just picks peoples cards up without askingthis is completely normal in tournamentsthanks for outing yourself as a complete casual with a limited worldview
Unban it you pussies
>>97127828if the card is worth so much you wouldnt play with it retard. you are actually all that autistic about this.
>>97127839>a complete casualSir you are in the general for a casual non-tournament format.
>>97127841> Which one is the moth? Oh wait I think I see it.- Rarran, 2024
>>97127844>if the card is worth so much you wouldnt play with itThis genuinely makes no sense and I will not engage with you as a result.
>>97127846yes and that's why i'm here, because i love calling out people for being more stupid than i am
>>97127793>so he can just claim an insult on you to explain why he was wrongThis nigga lives in a dank ass basement Check the humidity wherever it is your cards are curling. It usually starts around 65% which is pretty easy to reach if you cook or shower only one room over from wherever your cards sit
>>97127841This. Also unban my ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
>>97127860I think going in and trying to use casual and "non tournament" as an insult in a thread that openly states this as part of what it is is actually really dumb. I actually think you mistook this as /mtg/ due to having two threads open and are now saving face
>>97127841>>97127864>reserved listthey will never be unbannednot because they're necessarily too strongbut because wotc can't profit from them
>>97127733Spotted the groomer
>>97127853either it's a game piece and you're playing it for its game effects which are not effected by its condition or it's a collector piece that you absolutely MUST keep in good condition for resale, take your pick sperg.
>>97127862>why yes I will do EXACTLY what you said I'd do!Ok?
>>97127342No one wears fucking shoes while training martial arts.
>>97127870>aaaaiiiie you can only touch my double sleeved cards if we're in a tournament!imagine chess club players kvetching like this over GAME PIECES being touched kekw
>>97127883>>97127467Which is weird since in 90% of situations you'd need to use your martial arts in self defense, you'd be wearing shoes.
Vraska or Ygra, who's a cooler or more interesting GB commander?
>>97127872lol
>>97126889Right is worse because left is an expensive alt art you will never see. The other is a 50 cent card being sold in boosters. The frequency of a cards appearances should always matter when discussing the art. It's why Dwight doesn't matter. You won't be seeing him
>>97127896>ygra>interestingit's just foodloops.dec
>>97127711>>mom was super religious and growing up barely allowed me to read harry potter or collect PokemonSorry for your loss. This should honestly be considered child abuse.
>>97127896neither are particularly interesting theyre just removal tribals but ygra lets you play some funny stax pieces
>>97127828>Can I read the card myself?Not that hard.
>>97127711your mom sounds based
>>97127893>gets mugged>"hang on for a sec, gotta untie my shoes">stabbedCroc chads keep winning
>>97127035Not generally, because I am in a pod where 2 of the members are static friends. They know I use proxies and don't care. If a rando fourth comes in I likely won't mention it because his opinion is irrelevant and he is already going to be overuled 3 to 1.Either way the statement would never be "can I" it would be "I AM using proxies." I'm not asking you for permission.
>>97127876>Yeah but I knew you knew that I knew you knew the problem! This isnt JoJo, just clean the ventilation in your stoves hood and above your bathroom fan. Wear a mask, that mold sucks ass to recover from
>>97127871>but because wotc can't profit from them>we can't make money off of writing one sentence saying this is unbanned, therefore we won't take the effort to that and help the formatIn what world does this make any sense? Might as well ban all cards on the reserve list.
>>97127923>expecting me to ask and not just pick up the card with my cheeto fingers I don't washautistic fucking cunt I'll cut you!!!!
>>97127935>Might as well ban all cards on the reserve list.Not the worst idea teebeeayche fampire
>>97127928Not sure what is based about that. Explain?
>>97127923>can i please touch your horsey since my pawn took it? pretty please?disgustingly low T>>97127940>eating finger foods while playingplaying with cretins is a (You) problem and i don't pity you at all
>>97127950You're 20
> nooo you cant eat, you might get cooties on my titty proxy
>>97127960Feel free to touch without asking but I will smack your hand physically.
>>97127935>Might as well ban all cards on the reserve listyes let's tank all their value the playerbase isnt going to kvetch about this at all like with jewlotus nosiree
>>97127965Do you have any evidence the majority of the playerbase owns and collects RL cards or cares about the RL?What you mean is like 5 large investment firms will complain
>Pay the cost to flip>Guy tells me the colon in the ability means prio is passed and people can react and kill my creature before she flipsIs this true? I haven't seen it happen once on arena.
>>97127970>What you mean is like 5 large investment firms will complainthat's even worse for wotc doofus, company vs company is a more even match than some nobody vs company
>>97127955if i was 20 i would be a broke ass mf that would be proxying and wouldn't care about people touching worthless scribbles
>>97127965>let's tank all their valueunironically yes, fuck the collector aspect of this game. Fuck thinking artificially scarce cardboard should be worth a damn.>playerbase is going to kvetch about thisGood, let them out themselves as garbage
>>97127974It's an activated ability that goes on the stack yeah
>>97127977Companies have a literal 0% chance of even getting a judge to listen to any attempt to go after HASBRO, a multi billion dollar company that never signed any contract regarding this.WOTC is not a company.
>>97127996>unironically yes, fuck the collector aspect of this game. Fuck thinking artificially scarce cardboard should be worth a damn.basedbasedbasedbasedbasedbased
>>97127984>I can't afford to double sleeve or simply sleeve my cards thoughBroke, or retard. Call it.
>sold a card online for the first time (kinda expensive too)>it arrived yesterday morning already>guy still hasn't confirmed the arrival so i haven't gotten my moneyIs this normal? I feel very stressed out.
>>97128015have you ever noticed that in every format, even edh, certain reserved list cards are just banned right at inception and that there's never been a record of a reserved list card being banned long after a format's inception?this isn't a coincidence btw, only geniuses know the answer
>>97128025you tagged the wrong guythis the retard you're looking for>>97127828
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97127996>i lost out on getting reserved list cards>me with all these proxies of any card i could want that i claim is just as good as the original? worthless!>i want those who benefited to SUFFERthe sour grapes is real kek
Why do so many decks use the land? Theres so many untapped multicolor lands now.
>>97128075yeah i do want you to suffer the terrible fate of not being able to flip cardboard for 70 dollars or so. It'll lower the price of the cardboard i want to buy
>>97128084It's extremely cheap and usually good enough.
>>97128075Hope you get a good workout with all that shadowboxing
>>97128084In any given game it will tap for 4 or 5 colors by turn 2-3 with no downsides. I think it's basically a staple for any 3+ color deck and generally good enough in 2c decks.
>>97128084Because this is more or less going to be a guaranteed 5c land as long as there's a good distribution of colors around? It's really good in commander.
>>97128101>he admits to being this souri already know what you think of landowners and your entire politics
>>97128114why would i care about you losing a few dozen dollars? it benefits me so i want it to happen, that's all
>>97128107hope you stop envying those with real cards one dayit's just game pieces after all, your proxies are just as valid!
>>97128084my landbase costs less than a dollar
>>97128118>i want x to happen because it benefits me>therefore it will totally happen one dayhahaha cry more
>>97128131You didn't have a good combeback for him, did you?
>>97128129Impossible
>>97128134i'm not the one crying over reserved list cards costing so much despite them being proxyable to oblivion
>>97128135Basic lands are free, anonJust take them from your LGS draft box
I can't think of many other communities where poorfags have this much of a chip on their shoulder.
>>97128131when did i say it would happen? wotc obviously doesn't want to upset their whales. i just think it would be nice if it did.
>>97128153you should read the last thread, it's hilariouspoorfags once again insisting they don't seek validation, and yet that's all they ever whine about
>>97128129My basics cost more than my fetches.
>>97128153this trolling is so tired
>>97128157>i just think it would be nice if it did.and i'm just calling you sour grapes that's all lol don't get your panties in a bunch
>>97126436>TQI like this Beast Whisperer a lot. Once I like how a deck plays and decide I want to put more into it I usually start swapping out arts for the ones I prefer and this is usually one of the changes I make if it runs a Beast Whisperer.
Thank you for validating me for freet. poorfag
Which Marrow-Gnawer?
that wasn't so hard, now was it?wouldn't life be so much better if proxyfags just admitted they're poor and are just F2P in mtg?
>>97128186fyi your trolling is less obvious if you don't use "rofl" "lmao" etc. It's literally what I do if I am trolling so it's really obvious
>>97128185Which ever one is cheaper
>>97128186I admit it.
>>97128145Stealing is wrong
>>97128186Bro I literally spend more on proxies than actual cards because I buy coomer ones
>>97128191you're literally the first anon to say rofl and lmao itt fyi
>>97128203and badthere should be a bigger stronger word for stealing
>>97128206that's just you choosing to be F2P in mtg while being P2W to your urges, you'd definitely simp onlyfans if you can get a custom card from some whore as a prize
>>97128206Stop buying from coomette, he over charges for sub-par work
We're almost there -1/-1 counter bros. Just a little bit longer.
>>97128206
>>97128213Like larceny?And grand larceny?
>>97128237I'd have to see the card.If the proxy was nice I might.
>>97128237Someone tell Voxxy about this business model
>>97126623Azusa land destruction is a lot of fun. Last time one of my bros decided to swing me out of the game on turn 3 so I busted out the Azusa and made sure we both lost the next game.
>>97128305like badwrongor badongThat's itStealing is badong
what are the most acceptable "win the game" cards?
>>97128331none
all my decks win through combat damage and my monkey brain has a hard time grasping the idea of doing so in any other waywhat do?
>>97128331All of them except for the merfolk bitch
>>97126966Shut the fuck up you autistic faggot. Kill yourself.
>>97128339continue to be a chad
>>97128339nothing wrong with combat damage
>>97128331Mechanized productionDarksteel ReactorTriskaidekaphileThe Millennium CalendarOnes like that where it takes a lot of set-up to get to and people have a chance to react to it.
>>97128331
>>97127841Just run Necropotence
>>97127426Rape
>>97128326I fucking love Azusa, so many fun ways to play her. Big green ramp, landfall of whatever flavor you want, infinite mana combo or land destruction looping, etc. Lots of variety in how to build the engine for various brackets that are all pretty fun too
she cute
>TQAs a weeb, I picked up a playset of almost all the strixhaven cards.
>>97127935>Might as well ban all cards on the reserve list.For the seethe it would cause alone for the people who have ‘liquidity’ in cardboard, I am absolutely onboard with this idea.
>>97128206Reminds of the guy complaining here a long time ago about how come chinese bootlegger changing how they made them and how they were now going to not pass as real cards and how he was spending 200+ dollars a month on bootlegs.
>>97128084its extremly unlikely that you wont get a color in your identity when you have 3+ colorsalso>he doesnt leverage the Orchard to have picrel enter with an additional Counter in his 3 color deck obviously a small thing, still fun
Thoughts on ramp in Kraven?
>>97128237Wow projection much? I spend $0 on only fans, I just prefer my proxies to be beautiful and busty white women.>>97128250I like his stuff
>>97128331This one is way harder to pull off in highlander formats.
>>97128490Not really when there are so many clones in the game these days.
https://archidekt.com/decks/17962874/possessionfling tribal, y/n
>>97128331any remotely usable one will be called unfair. And the others are harder to achieve than milling out the table through draw effects
>>97128331Happily Ever After when your commander is 3 colors.
>>97128474of course, no picrel
>>97128493You need 5 cards in total that do fuck all otherwise. That or you make a bunch of tokens at once using something like Rite of Replication or Esix.
>one player does nothing but play value engines with no interaction>remove creatures as they come up>stop everyone's searches>turns go by super fast because I don't have 50 triggers to remember and resolve>said player complains that a hard control deck is unfun and takes too long>(he spends 10 minutes reading his hand and board every turn to play a single creature)>next game>don't remove his creatures instantly>let his stuff live for one turn>"I give all my creatures protection">"I will slowly go through my replacement effects and doubters">"then I'll put 8 +1/+1 counters on my creatures, and 8 more +1/+1 counters, and now 16 +1/+1 counters">"now I'll attack with my creatures that all have trample and can't be blocked"
>>97128084>>97128129I play 1-5 colors and only use basic lands.
>>97128577I don't believe you
>>97128577So you just have nonfunctional decks?
>>97128568Anon, this game is about letting your bros do their things and spreading fun vibes.Major incel/blue player vibes from your post, play a green deck for once.
>>97128386Azusa was my second EDH deck. Love BIG GREEN.
>>97128386>Big green ramp, landfall of whatever flavor you want>Lots of variety in how to build the engine >which is Big green Ramp, and landfall
>>97128577Prove it.
> you may pass the river!!> but first you must pay!!
>>97128577Lower the range of colors and maybe I'll judge you.
for non-blue how can i deal with a jodah beyond a vexing bubble so it doesn't just cascade out of control? dude keeps pumping into that deck wanting to bring it to tourney (obv will be eaten by "real" cedh) including lock out combos and its getting tiring when 1 deck is like a double of the rest of the pod and it's becoming more and more a hand check if i have enough removals or turboing out my win faster
>>97128642"I'd rather not play against that deck""How about you play something else for once""The powerlevels don't really seem to match, how about you bring out another deck instead?"
>>97128642I know a guy who only plays MAXIMAL timmy and get salty if you have any interaction
>>97128642Darksteel MutationSong of the DryadsOublietteAsking them not to play Jodah like an adult.
>>97128624No
>>97128642play a better deckorplay at another table
Warning signs:>Green>5 colors>Dragons>Jodah>Shrines
>>97128477Idk you could run 3 visits. I wouldnt run more than 2 and I wouldnt run the enters tapped dogshit. I feel like he shouldnt need too many lands to work
>>97128642
>>97128679what if my deck is 2 colors with a few cards from the other 3
>>97126436>Are there any alt arts that you simply must have for a card?
>>97128679>Warning signsPreconBattlecruiserVoltronIndicates a whiny cunt
>>97128709Epic bait post
>>97128656alas it's for the 1 game a night where we play b4+ (or at least an impression of it) so social angles are kinda out
I don't even know what battlecruiser is, and I don't think I care that much either.
>>97128679Warning signs:>Universes Beyond>Secret Lair>Pre-7th Edition>Planeswalkers>Partners
>>97128684Here are some of the options:>1drop dorks>1drop enchantments>2 drop Mana rocks>2 drop ramp spells>2 drop ramp guys (Rhona's style)>3 drop ramp ETB guys (wood elves)>3 drop ramp spells (cultivate)>4+ drop ramp spells
>Turn 1 dork>Turn 2 Kraven>Turn 3 3-4 drop removal>Turn 4 3-5 drop spellvs>Turn 1 ?>Turn 2 dork>Turn 3 kraven + 2 drop removal>Turn 4 3-7 drop spell
My cards arrived. Which deck should I cannibalize for sleeves?>Chosen Undead (Isshin)Black dragon shields.This is a fun deck though and I love the Dark Souls theme so I'd need to get it resleeved eventually.>Light Yagami (Mathas)Clear dragon shields.This deck seems super fun but I haven't had much luck with it. Haven't had chances to play it much either.My deck doesn't have any mdfcs in it so the clear sleeves won't fuck me, but it might get upgraded with some later.>PantlazaGreen dragon shields.This was my first "real" deck but it's slop and I'm probably never going to play it again. Pantlaza's my boy and the deck wasn't just dinosaur tribal (focused more on exile synergies and cascade abusers) but I had my fun with it and now I just want to get Pantlaza put into a retirement home (framed on a wall).The sleeves would be kind of ironic since this is my only non-green deck.I've also got some nasty yellow penny sleeves but they shuffle so bad.
>>97128792
>lost to a filthy they/them named Willow Pinkbutterfly playing bumblerflower
>>97128801It's a $25 deck, I'm not spending $15 on sleeves.
I got to run my monoblue WanShiTong deck tonight properly for the first timeAlso got to use insight engine for the first time too, and holy shit it might be my new favorite artifact periodRepetitious Card-draw ramp is so fucking nice to have, I'm now looking into getting some cards with proliferate so I can juice it up a bit moreShadow of the Second Sun is also really nice with it, overall 10/10 fun deck so farReally hard figuring out what I'd cycle in or out now. Did any of you grab the FF Holiday bundles? What did you get? I grabbed a couple and got some great pulls.
>>97128867How the fuck did you get a "couple"
>>97128882I think I'm just getting really lucky, and I also check amazon occasionally to double check. Was at a restaurant earlier with some friends, checked my phone, and a few were available, grabbed another one lightning fast. Got very lucky I think.Our local game store had about 20, a friend and I grabbed one (I bought his and he gave it to me) and he has 1 preordered, and I have 2 on the way.Our pulls were super strong yesterday, I ended up getting a Tataru Taru, Lulu, and a borderless Buster Sword. Hunting really hard for a Chocobo Vivi though, but nobody nearby me is telling me what they pulled because I KNOW those faggot motherfuckers are scalping them instead of opening them. The fags.
Reprint wheel of fortune, it's a fun card (outside of nekuslop decks)
>>97128904why its effect is reprinted to hell in so many variations. you dont need the most efficient and simple version of it.
>>97128890I never even saw a chocobo bundle on Amazon
>>97128904Proxy it
>>97128912Check regularly. Like depending on how bad you want it, honestly.They're priced around 120 on amazon currently which feels fair for the outrageous value I've received from them so far. From everything I've pulled, 220 has equated to about 400$ but I got rather lucky.I checked amazon every 10-30 minutes on certain days and I actually found it kinda easy to ninja my few orders.
it's simple. if a commander has 4 toughness it's a baby commander made to survive lightning bolt because the designers think people it'll appeal to will cry and quit if someone stops their bullshit value engine with a simple common.
>Ninja Turtles>Capeshit>Dollar Store Harry Potter>Dollar Store Capeshit ft. Teh Jacetice League with Loot and Friends: Eldrazi Boogaloo 2 The ReturneningWhat a fucking grim year for sets. Hopefully Hobbit gives us some good Food commanders and Lorwyn isn't total dogshit.
What are some Commanders that are good with the Reconfigure mechanic or cheats out Reconfigure/Equip costs easily that are also Super Robot or Tech Superhero themed?
>>97128714If you think someone has a shit opinion just say it. Going "umm...bait?" is some passive aggressive woman shit. Something you will never be.
>>97128969Tech includes being drugged right?
>>97128936I am sure you were fine with avatar and FF you hypocritical cunt
>>97128867>Did any of you grab the FF Holiday bundles?No? I generally don't buy any product because WOTC cannot produce in numbers that a large company should be able to. So everything is ultra high priced and only bought by morons. I'd rather spend my 60 on a handheld emulator or a video game over an item that is double MSRP just because.
>>97128921>Proxy it
>>97128931Bolt isn't a standard card. That is.
>>97128931you forgot the single biggest red flag 'designed as commander': ward
>wanted to make several Avatar decks>ended up proxying every card even the cheap ones, aside from basic lands because the total proxy order would be less than if I ordered it from tcgplayer or local game shop The shipping is what really destroys motivation to do anything. I desperately try to manually scroll through and see if shops have the same cards but in my case they never do so I end up ordering from like 15 different people with like 4 dollar shipping. A 15 cent card ends up being nearly 5 bucks
I know this guy is just a big body but it looks kinda fun. not meaning to play him as a commander but why not put him into a green deck with big creatures?
>>97128989>you hypocritical cuntWhat am I being hypocritical about you sperg bitch?
>>97129065Congrats on not being a retarded dumbfuck.
>>97128931>build deck around single creature, in the format that was created around building decks around a single creature>said single creature is instantly removed the second it hits the field>player proceeds to sit there doing nothing while everyone else plays solitaire >they're apparently the asshole, not me though Format is dead because its become full of whiny faggots that turn even the most casual of pods and games into a tournament setting. Every card and commander "is kill on sight" and every commander is bad unless its just some wad of colors you never actually castThe same people that bitch and moan about Eminence because god forbid my opponent do anything without me instantly "interacting"
>>97128987The mental image of Captain America attaching weeb tech to himself Iron Man style is way too funny to me. I like it.
>>97129065This is the red pill many refuse to take
>>97129079Stuff like Mox Pearl are the few cards I refuse to proxy because I dont want my decks to become EDH staple vomit piles
>>97129089
>>97129096>mox pearl>edh staple
>>97128987I imagined Cap roofieing someone's drink.
>>97128792>>97128801I ended up unsleeving the Dark Souls deck. I'll put it in penny sleeves later.It had some nice swamps in it that I'll borrow for this one, too.
>>97129089>friend's pet deck is Muldrotha>also his most consistent and best deck>mainly just because its a value pile of green blue and black cards>almost never casts Muldrotha and if he does its like near the end of a game>decks not even built around Muldrotha at that point >same guy gives other people shit for building decks reliant on commanders, in the format built around commanders
>>97128839>>97129134Go to Target or Walmart and buy cheapo 5 dollar sleeves
>>97129089In complete fairness, if your Commander has a unique ability with little to no redundancy in the game and is overcosted for its effects, it is always the right strategic move on your opponents parts to lock you out by removing it permanently/making it too expensive to cast. This is a failure of rule and card design. It's not fun but it's not the other player's faults Gavin and co can't figure out how to create cards that protect jank commanders without giving sweatlords the ability to also protect their pushed commanders. That being said I will continue to build around Commanders I find fun, even if they're borderline unplayable outside of bracket 1 and most games end up with my durdle fucking because my built around 5 cost commander is now just sitting in my command zone doing jack shit because it costs me 9 mana to cast it and I'm not in green.
Worth?
>>97129202Broadly though if you build your commander decks thematically they should be able to do the commander's thing even if you can't cast the commander or make them stick. Also commanders are inefficient to remove since they can be recast relatively easily. Some commanders are more kill-on-sight than others though, I just contend that 'always' is a bit of an exaggeration.There are a number of cards though that give commanders ward and do other protective things; people should run those more often if their gameplan is very commander dependent.
>>97129202It's also a failure to follow the rules of intent
>>97129202I reworked my original Gwyn deck to Shanid mainly because a 6 drop commander doesn't really work anymore. Shanid is cheaper, gives all my legendary creatures menace so its not just voltron and gives me card draw. I kept a lot of knights and legendary equipmentsI really miss the days where I could play Gwyn, auto equip colossus hammer to her and have my brain swell up 4 sizes
>>97129089>>97129202This is 100% the vibe I get when I see all those Maldhound shorts show up on my YT>(Commander)>this commander is gay, if you play this commander you are a war criminal that deserves to be executed>all these cards are bad because (reason)>word salad that makes me sound smarter than I actually am
>>97129221You just can't do this with some build around commanders though. Not to mention rng sometimes fucks you hard. My Judith deck is packed with protection at the expense of cards that let her "do her thing" but a lot of games I just don't draw a single piece, and there's only 1 creature in the game that replicates half her abilities so unless I get a proper opening hand I have to sit there spamming 1 damage spells that basically don't do anything unless someone has a mass of 1/1 tokens. And unless I get a god hand with sol+ritual+rock there's no way I'm getting her out before other players have reserve mana to cast removal.Meanwhile by the time I get her out the WG counters player who doesn't even need to cast their commander already has 2-3 pieces out putting counters on creatures and is starting to swing for 10-15 a turn. Putting yourself in a matchup with a build around commander against 1+ generic goodstuff heavily supported decks is just miserable, and brackets do nothing to address this imbalance.
What to run? Spell Syphon is basically a hard counterspell in my deck, but Drakeling is a flyer that I can use for combat triggers and slows spells down.
I started playing MTG/Commander with friends over Tabletop Simulator. We're all kinda new so I need some deck/commander recommendations.What would you recommend for someone who just wants to cast/cheat out massive, impressive sorceries/instants? Is there something like Araumi of the Dead Tide but not for creatures?Also, what would be a strong Landfall commander/deck? Seems like a fun mechanic and I would like to play with it.
>>97129348
>>97129089>let this creature survive a turn>you win the game>3 other players now cannot play their deck built around a single creatureremoval actually makes more commander stuff happen not less.don't speak about what the format's supposed to be when it used to be about 8 mana creatures with upkeep cost that took 3 swings to kill one opponent, not your 4 mana self-feeding value engine/pay-off
>>97129065>guys you know what proxying is cheaper because ofc one guy with a printer will literally have every card i can ever wantwowzers you think?
>>97129067because there are other cards with the exact same effect and more?
>>97129359Which makes him correct and smart for proxying instead of ordering from 50 places. You're attempting to be rude but just look silly.
>>97129373Careful bro you're about to be called a p**rfag. There's no recovering from that.
>>97129380To me it isn't even about money. It's convenience and speed.>order from TCGplayer>70 packages>at least 1 will get lost>estimated delivery for all probably not for a solid 2-3 months considering most speed>end up paying 75 dollars shipping and have to wait on 500 packagesI'd rather just buy ONE package that will arrive in under 2 weeks. Maybe Johnny Applegameshop should try sending his shit in a responsible time frame and without fucking it up. Chang can.
>>97129348Cheat out big non creature spells would be something like Will Scion of Peace or Rowan Scion of War. Rowan is leagues better because she works with loss of life and that's much easier than life gainThere are numerous landfall commanders. Search for landfall on EDHREC for a full list but the newest FOTM one is Toph, First Metalbender but I would recommend Omnath Locus of creation
>>97128986No, I simply state the truth as I see it
>>97129356Depends entirely on the commander. Some commanders are indeed cringe and will instantly win the game when they're played. As someone previously posted, something like Gwyn being cast isn't going to instantly win>6 mana >needs equips on the board>doesn't have haste
>>97129089Ok, Here's a counter point. https://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_parnesseThis deck instantly won on turn 5 with just a talisman of dominance and a sorcerer class (lvl 1) and swinging with the commander played on turn 4. Electrodominance+radiate. Some commanders ARE bullshit powerful. Many commanders are huge value engines like kefka or faggotSTDproliferate bot. The issue you people seem to keep having is just finding the same kind of game. Cyc rift tutor sensei's divining top spam? clearly different than a guy making a gilgamesh deck that's sword tribal, or the difference between a toph deck that runs nothing but earthbending cards (not that good) vs using toph to abuse landfall / sac outlets. People need to understand that commander has the fewest amount of banned cards precisely because it's kitchen table magic and people can police their own tables.
>people who use removal on stuff like Sol Ring, Signets or draw cardsIs this considered faggotry? And by draw cards I don't mean stuff like Rhystic. I've seen people blow up stuff like Enchanter's Pres on turn two
>>97129202No. You have to let me do the thing. Its in the rules.
>>97129417Removing Sol Rings is ALWAYS based, especially if it's played t1 or 2.
>>97129373it's actually quite foolish to expect that a single vendor would have the cards he wants, even 15 cent draft chaffno matter how you slice it buying proxies (god forbid you don't make your own to save even more money btw) will always be cheaper than buying real cards, no jewery involved at all, in fact chang's fingerprints is all over it, as you correctly point outultimately the og post is attempting to sound insightful to those on the fence but is in fact just preaching to the choir
>>97129417I did that today. Made a guy scoop turn 1, before I had a turn. >Sol ring, arcane signet>force of vigor both
>>97129425Making your own proxies is retarded unless you already have a good printer set up for other shit. I'm glad to give Mao .20-.40¢ a card and not have to fuck around wasting my time trying to print decently looking/feeling cards. Not my problem western merchants can't get with the times and provide the same level of quality for cheap. Free market baby.
>>97129411>toph deck that runs nothing but earthbending cardsI built the mono green Toph and it runs well, but its more of a 1+1 counter deck>Toph to abuse landfall/sacEven that Toph can function without her being out because you can just make a regular landfall/recursion deck One of the most consistent decks I ever made was this which was just gruul landfall with a bunch of random dwarf cards I threw in
>>97129443>Free market baby.>also not my problem the consumer market can't get with the times and provide the same level of profit giant AI corporations can, why are people so whiny? picrelhad to sneak that one in because reading your comment while seeing current events is just funny
>>97129417A turn 1 sol ring doubles your win rate or something absurd like that, always remove it
>>97129065I agree, I don't proxy though. I build from precons and visit stores as I travel and get cards I think might work or are neat. Most places have a bulk section that I rummage through if I have time that are free, idk why people feel the need to buy commons. I do have one super expensive deck the I keep up with all the latest printings on, fancy lands, etc that north of 2k at this point, but again thats my personal little treasure hunt.
>>97129380dude why are you censoring yourself on 4chan wtf is wrong with you
Seems like we have this removal discussion every single thread. The bottom line is that this is a TCG and TCGs ultimately boil down to RNG and pure luck. It all depends on who draws their removal/interaction and who doesn't. If you're running some commander that's kill on sight, the odds are your opponent may not have anything to deal with it. Other night was prime example for me >run Edgar deck for years >most standard ooga booga creatures swing deck>get master of dark rites out turn 1>turn 2 Vampire Nocturnus >turn 3 Edgar>have board of flyers all getting bigger each swing>one friend removes my nocturnus to get rid of flying>next turn I have Akromas will and kill 3 people at onceSometimes you have to risk it and just play the game. If you sit there huddle up not playing anything and keeping mana open then that's a pussy way to play
I prefer removal engines to draw engines because it's still card advantage to use one card that destroys multiple cards played by enemies, but also the enemy wasted mana on things that got removed.
>>97129531based 10 boardwipe.dec player
>>97129538just cramming 4 wraths into a deck is not an efficient removal engine. a removal engine doesn't require a continuous expense of mana and card advantage to keep going.
>>97128931Are you retarded
These guy are mvps in tohp. Earthbend land -> colorless creature. Throw an 8/8 land at anything and deal 16 damage.
>>97128191>I do this so everyone must do thisThis is peak autism brain
wotc please put this into lorwyn eclipsed and I will finally purchase your shit
>>97129425>YOU FOOL! YOU MUST ACCEPT SUBPAR SERVICE DESPITE THE OPTION FOR BETTER SERVICEHow bout no?
>>97129404The truth would be to say the opinion is shit. You have no actual way to know if it is "bait"
>run 7 board wipes, 12 counter spells, 15 single target removal>somehow never have itI am the opposite of these always have it story. I never have it. I so don't have it that my opponents question me as to why I don't run removal. I do.
>>97129548>its a faggoty yawgmoth player that gravepact+skeleton loops with infect and proliferate>>97129589use draw? or do you blow your load on stupid shit first?
>>97129089If every commander had eminence this wouldn't be a problem
>>97129579ok sure but stop crying about the ram shortage too because why would i accept subpar clients despite the option for better clientst. micron
>>97129592>use draw? or do you blow your load on stupid shit first?The deck is entirely based on drawing. It can draw 7 cards a turnI think I may just be cursed by a wizard or some shit.
>>97128709Your opinion is shit
>>97129594I never said a thing about RAM you dumb dumb. You absolute fucking retard
>>97129595Then it sounds like you're leaning too far towards lategame power and neglecting early interaction and hand smoothing, since most decks don't draw 7+ cards on turns 2-4.
>>97129596Except these are indeed the deck types most likely to throw a fit if you play too strong, or you win too fast, or you remove their shit. Because you didn't let them do the thing and you just 50 for 1'd the faggot voltron player
>>97129599>dodges current events because he knows it fucks over his argumentroru rumaopoint is by buying genuine product the implication is that you're already going to pay more dumbass, if you want to cheapen out just buy proxies from chang and don't even bother going to tcgplayer
>>97128890You've been lucking out
>>97129605>LMAO ROFL XD LOLOLOLWe went over this earlier. Doing this indicates you are trolling. Now I will cease responding and also filter your replies so you making them is a waste of time.If you try to @ me it'll just show you're enraged and desperate to get me to respond.
>>97129606Why was anyone buying this? What is even in it? I assume it's the usual collector booster, 5 packs, and a shit promo.
>>97129607>criesConcession accepted :)
>>97129584>You have no actual way to know if it is "bait"What you dont understand is that I post all sorts of fake stories and satire in these generals. I post real stories and opinions too ofc. But I have a strong idea when people are just posturing on the internet.>>97129604>Except these are indeed the deck types most likely to throw a fit if you play too strong, or you win too fast> Hi Im anon, Im playing this Fallout precon> Sure, ok, Im playing my Kinnan deck> *totally clueless* ok, he looks like a little guy!------> um sir, I think your deck is too strong for my Fallout precon> WTF, STOP WHINING NO SHUFFLE UP WHILE I POST ON EDHG
I've got about a hundred or so junk cards laying around. What would be the best+cheap 5c creature to lead a legitimate bracket 1-1.5 deck just to put these to use? Preferably nothing more than $1 as I'm willing to spend no more than $5 on Temples/Filter lands and signets just to make the mana base not torture
I am not always the winner. But I am always the threat
>>97129635Only 3c but Haldan+Pako.You can make up for your lack of card quality by loading up on lands and noncreatures and then playing your opponents' decks while slamming them with Pako.I've played a Haldan+Pako deck with 65 basic lands just because I was too cheap to buy anything for it and, while it struggled at bracket 3 tables, it was fast enough to threaten precons and the card advantage gives you a lot of options.
>>97129604Kek you got destroyed by >>97129631
every background commander is errated to have
>>97129690to have what? TO HAVE WHAT!??
>>97129696aids. I'm sorry Jaheira.
I maindeck blue hate and it always pays off. Get pyroblasted you absolute faggots.
>>97129683Unfortunately there's way too many white/black cards, and red/green make up the least by a good amount. I'm honestly just leaning on The Wandering Minstrel since I can grab almost all the towns for real cheap and I just noticed I have 6 cards that say "your creatures have trample". If people can't kill me by the time I get 8 fuckin mana going then that's their problem (I also almost used that logic on running with Progenitus; if they can't kill me before 10 fucking mana they deserve to lose)
>>97129702Usually color hate will rarely be totally dead in a deck. You're in a 4 player game where the average deck is 3 colors and there's also a metric ton of 5 color good stuff
>>97129702If she's not your commander you're a fucking fraud. Post a picture of the card in hand right now
What is a card you own that you really wish you could get signed (by whoever)?
>>97129725Terese Nelson's Akroma(s)
>>97129089>The pod is going from casual to cEDH decks worth at least $1,000>they still piss and moan when I counter their Voltron/Tribal deck by hitting the commander ASAPI don't understand them. No fucking shit I'm going to deny your wincon - I want to win too.
>>97129725your signature anon I love you
>>97129722>Tap, pay mana, discard a cardThere's a little too much boomer stank on this one for me
>>97129725I wouldn't dare try to, but my dad has a framed/perfect condition Ali from Cairo that I'd really like to have Mark Poole sign for him, it's one of his favorite cards from his favorite artist. He also has a Bazaar of Baghdad framed but no fuckin way would I even take it off the fucking bookshelf
What am i building next
>>97129743>what's a spellshaperthat's your new jank tribal deck
>>97129753wilhelt should create token copies of the card that died with decade
>>97129753a hot mono red waifu
>>97129763
>>97127783I live in the driest climate possible and they still curl the same way and it's moisture that actually flattens them for me in EU
Maybe crystal meme guy
>>97129810I've got a Wernog/Bjorna deck where I literally just flicker Wernog over and over and over and amass dozens of clues. Broodstar is my fucking HOMIE. Love that motherfucker so much
>>97129810>crystal collector>doesn't have every card with crystal in its name that's available in dimir
>>97129810avenger a cute
>>97129855Maybe he just wants to have fun.
>>97129867Based, have you printed it yet?
>>97129863One of my favorite cards from Tarkir, I keep looking for a deck for him
>>97129867there's nothing fun about a fungal infection
>>97129872nope I've got another deck with higher priority, found a place in town that can print it on cardstock apparently
>>97129904Damn I wish I had a place like that. I wanna start selling proxied art but I know nothing about printing
>>97128186I use proxies because I want to make my own UB shit and don't want to wait for WotC to do it right.
>>97128331Revel In Riches in Pirates tribal because their tribe sucks fucking dick.
>>97129965Revel in riches is a totally dogshit card. Its not worth 5$
Is this Based
>>97129606I guess soDon't be discouraged though, I even check back sometimes and see them purchasable for 119$ pretty regularly. Not even shitting you.
>>97128186I hate the company. not getting my money
>>97129977me in the middle
What's the dankest shit to put in my Ratman deck that ain't ring tempting garbage?
>>97130065retardabrick's BFF is colonel autumn
>>97130065dept of loyalty, ritual of the machine, mark of the oni and theft in general to take away their "do thing draw card" commanders
>>97129725IslandSigned by Donald TrumpSell it for profit.
>>97130154ummm based
>>97130154MTG NFTs signed by drumpf
>>97129593I'm not sure how Wizard's could work that out now. A new card type like a Background that is in addition to your commander that works as long as your commander doesn't have eminence?
>>97130065Hear me out
how do I figure out what type of decks I like without having to build 500 decks first and being disappointed 99% of the time?
>>97130335Look into the overarching archetypes of Aggro, Control, Combo, midrange.Just build one you find interesting or that sounds cool to you and go from there, it's not that deep
>>97130335Build around a creature you think is cool. That's it. You'll figure out the rest as you go.
>>97129612A normal bundle but with a promo Birds of Paradise, 1 extra normal pack and a Chocobo booster which contains 10 basic lands (2 for each type) themed around Chocobos and 2 of 20-ish cards with alt printings and Chocobo track marks on them. >>97126477 Is one of them and an example of what they look like. Main cards from what I’ve seen people wanting to get have been mono white Cloud, mono green Tifa, Vivi Ornitier, alt art Snapcaster Mage and one more white creature whose name I cannot remember.
>>97130335if you have varied pod you will cut the need to play 3/4ths of them, add on top the fact that often these stack on top of eachother so you're left with less than 15
>>97130335Try to imagine what a deck would play out like. Oftentimes people see a value engine in the command zone and get sparkly eyes just to either play solitaire or get beaten down every game. Prime example is old Jhoira. >Oh, I can play all the cool big timmy cards for practically nothing>Oh I can play a bunch of cards to remove time counters to get my big timmy cards quicker>Finally an easy way to play Eldrazi and Blightsteel>Why does my commander never stay on the board!?
thoughts?
>>97129417I had this one dude crash out over me Shenanigansing his rocks because he was accelerating every turn. If you have 6 mana by turn 3 I am blowing up your shit.
>>97130419>Why does my commander never stay on the board!?Not just that but it makes half the cards in your deck useless because you've got nothing in revile for the synergy to interact with and not enough mana for the bombs you were hoping to cheat out. She's a great example. >>97130335You play the game. You're looking at things the wrong way; the types of decks you dislike are probably going to be fewer than the decks you like, and your preferences can shift over time. It's not about finding the things that works for you. You can have as many different decks as you want. Like a fighting game, the easiest place to start is an aesthetic one. What speaks to you? What kind of mage do you want to be? Do you want to summon huge monsters to beat the shit out of your enemies or do you want to shoot lightning at a motherfucker? Do you want to play lots of small things or do you want to play one big thing? Do you want to have the biggest stick at the table or do you want to be the scrappy underdog?If you have a deck that feels good on an aesthetic and immersive level, you'll probably enjoy it regardless of the play pattern. My only piece of advice is to go a little overboard on card draw. Add card draw until you think you have too much, then add a little more. Having cards in hand is how you learn what cards you like having in hand, what cards you find yourself wanting to cast the most, and what cards you don't feel bad about discarding when you go down to hand size.
>>97129417I've got a question of my own:Is it rude to handrip the green player's cultivate on turn 2 and leave them stuck on land-pass for 4-5 turns?
What rule actually prevents you from just playing the reverse-face of the transforming Ixalan lands from your hand? Can't you always cast both sides of a dual-faced card so long as they have a cost or are legal to play?
>>97130612The symbol next to the name indicates that it's a transforming card, not an mdfc.
>>97130612Just proxy a cradle. Problem solved.
>>97126477Building up a deck for her currently since I got her in my bundle. Got any suggestions for ways to get big creatures into the graveyard, and what would be fun inclusions for said creatures?I'm aware of the staples and got some of them already, but I want something unexpected too
>>97130612No. Normally you can only play the front face. Modal Double-Faced Cards let you choose either side when cast.>712.2. Transforming double-faced cards have a Magic card face on each side and include abilities on one or both of their faces that allow the card to either “transform” or “convert” (turn over to its other face) and/or allow the card to be cast or enter the battlefield “transformed” or “converted” (with its back face up).>712.2a A transforming double-faced card’s front face is marked by a front-face symbol in its upper left corner. On cards printed starting with The Brothers’ War™ release, that symbol is a single white triangle pointed upward inside a black circle. Transforming double-faced cards printed in older sets have different front-face symbols. [...]>712.2b A transforming double-faced card’s back face is marked by a back-face symbol in its upper left or upper right corner. On cards printed starting with The Brothers’ War release, that symbol is a single white triangle pointed downward inside a black circle. Transforming double-faced cards printed in older sets have different front-face symbols. [...]>712.3. Modal double-faced cards have a Magic card face on each side. These faces are independent from one another.>712.3a A modal double-faced card’s front face is marked by a front-face symbol in its upper left corner. The front-face symbol is a single black triangle inside a sideways teardrop.>712.3b A modal double-faced card’s back face is marked by a back-face symbol in its upper left corner. The back-face symbol is two white triangles inside a sideways teardrop.>712.11. A double-faced spell is cast with its front face up by default. See rule 601, “Casting Spells.”>712.11b A player casting a modal double-faced card or a copy of a modal double-faced card as a spell chooses which face they are casting before putting it onto the stack.
>>97129810Been meaning to use Golbez with picrel. Any ways to make it reliable other than just tutoring?
I can't find my toxic deluge.FUCK
>>97130708Ah, thanks. That makes sense
>>97130744Redundancy and card draw. What did you expect?
>>97130744>>97129810>Golbez discussionI AM SUMMONEDDo it! Play Golbez.HE'S FUN AS FUCKDisinformation Campaign might not have made my list, but it's extremely good if you can either recur it after tutoring it to the grave or just draw into it. You should be surveiling so much that 90%+ of your deck is just there to get filtered through if it doesn't serve the immediate moment. His is my strongest deck, I fucking love him.
>Andrew Swordbro is back
>*goes effortlessly infinite with everything*I'd like to build her but i would have to nerf her so hard to not automatically be in bracket 4...
>>97130851You didn't see this coming when his hearld(him)brought him up randomly last thread?
>>97130899you guys talk about me~? I love you too, anon!
>>97130603I personality prefer my games to have my opponent's actually participate meaningfully in said game we are playing
>>97130301What is the creature type, Land i guess?
>>97130859Im slightly retarded, can you give a few examples of her infinite's?
>>97130603No
>>97131043Anything with persist becomes an eternally reviving creature
>>97130603No.>>97131028Baby gamer
>>97131080Solitaire gamer
for nethroi if going with skyclaves you mutate him out from CZ or cast first and turn later mutate on top? or just have him more for emergency and just do the usual abzan combo line with hulk?
How do I stop being addicted to equipment? Every time I visit the store without an equipment deck I feel naked.
>>97131114Thats weird because it's one of the weakest and least popular archetypes
>>97131124
>>97131124NTA but I have a lot of fun/decent win rate with my Shanid, Sleepers Scourge Legendary matters equipment deck
>>97131124>one of the weakestYou could do worse than run equipment voltron>least popularEquipment ensures the weapons in your favorite UB IP get represented, it will always be popular
>>97131093If solitaire is earned by shutting down your opponents that is both okay and intended by design
>>97131124>weakest and least popular archetypesAnd you've reach this conclusion by what evidence?
>>97131248Probably came to them in a dream.
>What kind of deck are you playing?>Its a pillowfort deck that also is group slug I guess? I don't really follow archetypes that much>Wow, pillowfort is so gay, it doesn't let people play the game while you sit there, so anyway on turn two I play a swamp, and then sol ring, lightening greaves then cast reanimate on this toxrill I discarded turn 1 and attack lightening greaves to it.
>>97131259more like the anon can't deck build unless its vivi.
>>97131267have a gameplan other than slapping creatures down. also sometimes you just lose to a god hand, and that's okay. dude fucking skipped his turn 1 for that play that loses to a single removal spell.
>>97131296>oses to a single removal spell.With shroud?You also seemed to missed the point that people in this community are hypocritical shitbags.
>>97130828What do you reccomend for a Golbez deck?
>>97129594Why do you always go off on these weird unconnected idiotic tangents and allegories nobody has referenced, antiproxyfag? I'm beginning to think you are genuinely retarded.
>>97131315yes you can respond to boots equip ability anon its why boots arent actually that good
>>97131325>smol boobsthe fuck
>>97131325>prompt: please draw a retard wearing something two sizes too small for herAre you actually attracted to this shit? Do you put ketchup on steaks and have your mother cook your chicken nuggets?
>>97131354>>97131354>>97131354Chaos Wrap yourselves to the new thread frens
>>97130603Nah, but it would be rude to kill him immediately afterwards even though the threat is neutralized
>>97131039Land isn't a creature type
>>97131325>has an ai image in his stupid postThanks for proving micron right btw
>>97131248Popularity is easy to prove of the big themes voltron is near least represented on edhrec.>weakestDefinitely one of them due to how easy it is to shut down>b-b-b-but my deck!!!!!!Good for you.
>>97129443>good printerA 50 dollar printer will get you playable cards. We dont need corporate quality. A clear image is all you need.
