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2025 Is Over In 21 Days edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What cards is Santa bringing you this Christmas?
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>TQ
Nothing, I bought myself some pet rats this month instead of putting any money toward cards
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What's the most Jewish magic card?
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>>97131354
I bought some jump start packs to play with my siblings
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>>97131369
You can't just say that without posting pics, anon.
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>>97131377
Oy vey
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>>97131395
They're asleep right now and haven't fully tamed down just yet. Next time I buy cards I'll post them with my rats.
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>>97131377
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>>97131369
I love rats but I don't keep them anymore because they have tragically short lives
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I like watching live feeding videos where mice get eaten alive by frogs
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>>97131435
One of the three poked her head out.
I know they only live 1-2 years, but I love them and always wanted them and pulled the trigger this year.
I need to get back to making a rat deck and cannibalizing my sons 60 card deck he hasn't touched in 3 years.
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>>97131455
Enjoy every moment of it anon
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Is anyone following this phenomenon in Pokemon TCG land?
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Looking for help filling out my Aerith deck with big creatures to resurrect.
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>>97131489
Since pokemon is just a collectible, this guy is just trying to carve out his niche amidst all of the uber rare EX releases
>he'll also never collect every single kabuto ever printed for obvious reasons
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>>97131494
I'm building her too. Luckily there are no shortage of big creatures in green and white, white has lots of angels and green has a ton of big stuff in general
I'm also including stuff like Cityscape leveler or meteor golem

My bigger challenge I think is to consistently gain 7 life per turn, or even just consistent life gain in general in order to trigger her ability
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>>97131517
>nissa's renewal
>pelakka wurm
>greater good
You get the idea
Not going to set the pod on fire, but it will at least get aerith going
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>>97131517
She's got 3 power and lifelink. Anything that gives it +4 power gets you there if you swing.

Boon of Boseiju does it on its own for 2 mana.
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>>97131543
That's an interesting point maybe even just giving her unblockable can do work for the trigger
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>>97131369
>>97131435
Im jealous. Rats dont exist in my province so getting them as pets is a bureaucratic nightmare
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>>97131517
I got a delivery moogle from my bundle that I'm thinking of keeping in to keep the healer staff on hand. Any spells besides ramp I've made sure has life gain, and same for as many creatures as I can. Even a dinky 2/1 like pic rel is in there. Might not be a bad idea to look into food tokens for when that 3 might bump it up to the resurrection threshold.
I'm personally looking for creatures that aren't necessarily the most optimal, but that let me do fun things.
I've already got Felidar Sovereign and Endurance as my wincons.
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I want to do a deck that's "go wide equipments" but I'm having trouble picking between these commanders. Barret seems really underrated and the new chocobo art makes him look less like a retard

Does anyone have experience with any of these decks?
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>>97131569
Healer staff?
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>>97131581
It'd be either #1 or #4. I'm leaning towards #1 since it has white, and a ton of the equipment staples are in white
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I have realized my identity is to be a heel. What decks do I need for my villainous box of evils (omnihive, so 8 decks), beside the obligatory Lynde's curses, Eriette's auras, Yurlok's mana burn and Blim's donate?
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>>97131623
Nekusar wheels, of course
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>>97131623
Grixis is the bad guy color so build that
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>>97131592
White Mage Staff, forgot the name. The Moogle will help bring it out or back, along with other 2 mana artifacts
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>>97131581
Pick the only nonslop option anon. Go wide, get big, ramp like a motherfucker.
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>>97131489
Only 2 million to go.
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>>97131377
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I made yet another tribal deck
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>>97131581
I'd go with Sokka and Suki personally
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>>97131722
If making tribal decks is wrong I dont want to be right
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Teysa looks lika a hooker.
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>>97131849
Stop saying mean things about my future wife.
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>>97131377
how could you forget him
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>>97131455
>>97131369
Nizzahon?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97131958
Just play infect, 10 lives should be enough for everybody.
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>>97131975
um sorry but if life is doubled from 20 to 40 then it should be 20 poison that kills you
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>>97131902
Wut?
Not whomever that is
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my pod is really heavy on combat damage and board wipes, which often turns games into 2-3 hour long slugfests, I guess most decks are bracket 2/3
one friend recently built a Solphim burn deck which was a great addition, since it speeds up the clock quite a bit
I imagine just switching to color combos with more protection would work since I mostly play red right now, but I wonder what else might be a good addition to spice up the pod?
had a combo deck in the past, but it's both too fast for the pod and just waiting for "i win" turn isn't that enjoyable for me
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>>97131489
>>97131503
>>97131690
Im uncertain what hes doing with them exactly but those are all first edition from fossil and in good condition. There cant be very many of those cards in existence.
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>>97131494
I miss when unique strategies were actually hard to pull off. I look at this one card that does it all and I look at my super cool selesnya reanimator list and I am retroactively disgusted by what I am now associated with.
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>>97132016
What's your selesnya reanimator list
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got this for dirt cheap, pretty sure someone inserted the wrong price
do I just sell deadly rollick and forget about it, or are any commanders from it actually fun to play?
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>>97132033
There is THE hydra commander in the deck, also useful for X spells mechanics. And mutate is always fun, very underappreciated.
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>>97132047
>t. Never played mutate
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>>97131853
I think its a compliment. Women love dressing like whores.
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>>97132095
I have Ivy mutate deck, so almost everything anon would find in the precon, sans the black, and with added octopus and gemrazer.
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>>97131994
Insurrection effects always kill timmies and end games.
or things like this
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>TQ
My friends and I are doing a secret santa, where we each asked for a precon and someone else will get it for them.
I asked for picrel, what are some good upgrades cards for it?
https://moxfield.com/decks/p9lI8QQGH0eEeJmaPX0KVQ
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>>97132100
Not a mutate deck. Thats a copy your commander degeneracy deck very different just looks the same but we all know its very different.
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>>97132006
He is a real life teh penguin of doom.
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>>97132125
It's not degeneracy if Ivy gets multiplied and grows tentacles and claws and get covered in shielding plax slime. Perfectly normal Simic mutate style.
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>>97132122
imagine not building each other decks for christmas
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>>97131377
this card actually contains a curse of greed that makes weak willed players (like my friend joe) not want to spend their treasures on casting important spells, so as to save them for attacking.
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>>97132137
That was the original plan, but deckbuilding skill in the group varies wildly and we wanted to help keep things within everybody's budget
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is there a single commander that's an actual cat (not anthropomorphized) besides Arahbo?
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>>97132171
Ygra, Lurrus if you don't mind extra eyes, Nethroi if you don't mind it being a mutant freak,
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>>97132171
Like a regular looking cat? Or is a weird cat that still walks on four legs fine?
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>>97132171
https://scryfall.com/search?q=type%3Acat+-art%3Aanthropomorphic+-art%3Amiqo%27te+is%3Acommander+&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
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>>97132149
Don't tell them that since they have vigilance, you can swing with them in combat and then spend them main 2.
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>>97132182
>>97132183
>>97132187
thanks, keep forgetting you can do fancier search with scryfall
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>>97132201
He knew that and still didn't want to spend them.
It's a powerful curse.
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>>97131489
There's a Yugioh player at my LGS doing that with Tri-Horned Dragon.
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>>97131489
I knew a guy who collected alpha, beta, and revised fire elementals. Eventually sold the set to pay for a vacation in japan.
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>>97131377
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>>97132242
>$11+
I would never have guessed, honestly. High mana cost + no protection seems like it'd be way too easy to deal with
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>>97131494
Are FF7 fans unimaginative? I was trying to find a reverse uno image of Aerith killing Sephiroth with masamune but can't find one. Anyway last ancient + leyline axe = always triggers her ability.
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>>97131991
Big MTG YouTuber who also owns rats.
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>>97129067
in mono green? show me
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>>97131354
>What cards is Santa bringing you this Christmas?
Rouse, Vendetta and Rowan promo pyroblast. My in-laws will probably get a commander precon of whatever set shows up at Costco this year.
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>>97132380
>big creature with no trample
>shroud works against you more than it protects him
unplayable
use the better version
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>>97132453
this effect is something completely different
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>>97132380
If he's willing to splash into (((Simic))) I liked putting him in pic related
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>>97132465
yeah, it's a better overall card too
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>>97131489
In second grade I sold a nonfoil first edition Aerodactyl from the fossil set to a fourth grader kid for $20. My mom tried to make me give the money back to the kid and said I took advantage of him, even though the kid offered the deal and offered me the money. I refused to go back on the deal and my mom was pissed. I wonder if that card is worth anything now...probably not.
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>>97132253
>Are FF7 fans unimaginative?
Not exactly a FF7 fan, or a fan of FF in general. I like a couple of the games that I played over the years.
Also, I'm relatively new to magic, so I don't have extensive knowledge of what cards are out there besides the biggest staples.
>leyline axe
cheers for the suggestion, will keep my eyes open for that.
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>>97132487
Me aerith deck is mostly filled with smaller utility creatures like pic related
Being able to recur removal so easily is amazing
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>>97131489
this reminded me i grabbed my old binder from my parents place recently but didnt really look through it maybe i should send him mine
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>>97132542
I had all those cards. I love this style of illustration
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>>97132573
Same. It has a washed out look that is very pleasant to the eyes
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>>97132573
The cubone especially is just so full of soul, how could you not root for the guy.
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>>97132587
He's like an adventurer gazing up at the stars in quiet contemplation.
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>>97131494
wurms bruv
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>>97131489
man what a loser he should be proxying all this shit
nobody's gonna know and he's still going to get twitter clout
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>>97132587
>>97132587
>>97132623
I always wondered what he looks like without his mother's skull on. Do Marowak mothers have to die for their kids to get born? How exactly does it work if they spawn from eggs?
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>>97132466
I remember Zegana being a boogeyman commander in my play group over a decade ago. Now she doesn't even seem particularly powerful.
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>>97132252
It's not kill-on-sight so people would rather leave it and play around it. It only goads small creatures and it only makes treasure if they die. So everyone else takes a bit of chip damage and occasionally you get a treasure if someone wants to block a creature with an important ability. He also makes treasure when a chump blocker dies but potential chump blockers will be tapped out unless you just summoned them, so that rarely comes up.
The most impact he has is that chump blockers and tap abilities on small creatures aren't available on other player's turns.
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>>97132657
This asshole is the new merfolk boogieman.
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>>97132666
I mean Zegana was more of a simic good stuff boogeyman, but even by that regard she's still massively outclassed by Kinnan, Aesi, and Koma, not to mention 3c options.
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>>97132656
It's never really addressed in the games. The lore is that they wear their mothers skull but they hatch from the egg with the skull on so...

The fanon is that the Pokedex entries are all half truths written by the player character
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>>97132666
A friend built him on a whim with all the junk/trash merfolk he's collected over the years. Just throw in the usual suspects of Coastal Piracy/Military Intelligence/Bident of Thassa/etc and holy fuck it gets real dangerous real quick. It's actually impressive how well it performs with all these useless merfolk
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>>97132666
This is a better commander
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>>97132666
>>97132733
Explorers of the Deep is easily one of the strongest precons with little to no upgrades. Hakbal just gets so out of hand even when the 99 is a bunch of bulk merfolk.
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>>97132747
Its actually 40 bucks on Amazon right now if anyone is interested.
That said, I hope they do explores and flood counter support more.
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>>97132747
>even when the 99 is a bunch of bulk merfolk.
Has there ever been another tribal commander that uplifted its creature type as well as Hakbal? I can't think of another where you can run the shittiest creatures and still have a competitive deck
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>>97132787
Ahem
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>>97132792
Krenko isn't a "goblins support" commander, he's a "token generator" commander, I'm and tired of people saying otherwise.
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>>97132534
Seems perfect, I love the idea of having lots of little critters and a handful big beasts to bring out depending on what's needed. Got a deck list?
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>>97132666
How would he fit into a Kiora/Sea Monsters deck with additional merfolk support?
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Neither I nor anyone in my playgroup has done a tribal deck. What tribes have interesting playstyles?
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>>97132836
spellshapers
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>>97132825
He wouldn't.
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>>97132743
No it isn't, you need every creature to have explore on its own to get anything out of it. Hakbal turns even jank merfolk in to explore engines+ has a do thing draw a card ramp ability also built in. He's a pure engine all on his own.
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>>97132787
Unesh comes close
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>>97132843
Fair enough, I was thinking with Kiora, Kenn, Tatyova, Herald, etc it would be enough. Or at least get some card draw and land.
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>>97132792
Krenko actually sucks because even noobs fear him so he generally get one tap at best before being instakilled over and over in to oblivion. Muxus is the best goblin commander followed by purpheros god of the forge
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>>97132881
Turning creatures in to fact or fictions is fun. If this was printed today it would have hexproof or ward-7
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>>97132885
This is actually the best goblin commander, muxus is bad
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>>97132877
Hakbal drops turn 4 and demands removal
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>>97132453
shut up, bitch
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Oketra feels really good with the airbending cards, especially if you have a cost reducer or two. Been winning games with her.
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Mods are asleep. Post your commanders with off-color archetypes.
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>>97132998
>watch out guys the highly telegraphed dumb tree is going to attack us!
>ok i block with some dork
you're so dependent on overwhelming stampede effects it's unreal
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>>97132939
Hakbal is in colors that let you protect creatures+ramp and does things the turn he drops without needing a haste enabler.
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>>97133024
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Any tips for my Azusa deck?
It's rather basic, just wondering if I'm missing anything important.
https://archidekt.com/decks/17956056
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>>97131406
>>97131412
>>97131699
>>97132149
you racefaggots are so deep in the coolaid you'll see red while you drown
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>>97133024
still the only monowhite creature with haste in history
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>>97132787
Edgar Markov for vampires, just have your vampires on curve, throw in some protection and you are good.
And in the same set as merfolks, dinos got wild with Pantlaza precon too.
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>>97133065
>Azusa
Based. She is one of my favorites. Your deck looks very different than mine. Do you have any go wide creatures like Avenger of Zendikar? Sometimes you just need a bunch of chump blockers that can go big with overrun effects. Triumph of the Hordes wins games like you wouldn't believe with big green. The group thinks you got enough damage to take one out, but really you can take everyone out. Big surprises.
Rude Awakening is another one of my favorites in Azusa. Goes wide, and/or gives a huge boost of mana.

https://archidekt.com/decks/14384222/azusa_lost_but_46_land
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>>97132242
So what background would you usually go with this guy? Agent Of The Shadow Thieves to go with the incremental growth or Raised By Giants so that once you get him and his background out pretty much everything is goaded?
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>>97133113
she booba
and bellyba
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Deflecting Swat or Redirect Lightning can't be used to redirect Silence, right?
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where's the line between reanimator and aristocrat deck, and what are some fun reanimator commanders?
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>>97133167
how do you want to change the target of a spell that has no target you imbecile
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>>97133167
Silence doesn't target so you can't redirect it.
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>>97133150
She has goat hooves too.
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>>97133172
the line is entomb
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>>97132475
I checked tcgplayer. Its like 8$.
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>>97133039
SOVL cares not for the opinions or trolling of plebs.
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I just realized why the Great Wall of Chyna is 20$
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>get bored of my decks
>start looking for new commanders
>get excited for some
>start deckbuilding
>get bored in the middle of it
>go back to my decks
>rinse and repeat
how to quit this circle
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>>97133193
Muahaha I won that exchange, fourth grade kid got fleeced, and he did it to himself.
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>>97133133
>go wide
Mainly Nantuko, Titania and scute swam. I could include Avenger over Kyoshi, but I like to have her ability to pump my inkmoth to a 9/9.
Maybe a future switch.

>Rude Awakening and Triumph
I probably have a triumph somewhere, and rude awakening also seems rather good!
Somewhat unsure if I want to cut anything tho, I mainly wanted to reduce my wincons and increase stax/value engines.

>deck
Thanks, already added all is dust and karn. All is dust is something I'm going to be including for sure, completely forgot about it.
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>>97133215
it's not how I'd build nethroi but chyna wall has obvious synergy
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>>97133217
Its not a cycle. Just slow evolution. Teust the system. Don't forget: you're here forever
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Got molested last night by Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Mother of Runes combo. What are some mono black answers to this that’ll work well in an Agent Venom aristocrats deck?
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>>97133240
bro your toxic deluge?
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>>97133240
Anything that makes them sacrifice all creatures or -X/-X
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will it get boring as fast as I imagine it?
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>>97133250
My deck isn’t optimized for shit and I’m not super familiar with Commander staples, just looked it up and I will be adding that to my deck but I need more options in case of resurrection like happened to me last night the first time I got rid of Avacyn with my Chupacabra Echo
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>>97133238
You wouldnt put it in what? Id have to imagine this is a best in slot card for any Toughness Matters or Walls Matter deck
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If I showed up at your playgroup/LGS with this, would you let me play it?
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>>97133065
>>97133133
do your azusas ever stay on board for a longer time?
I was tempted to build her as a commander after buying her for hazezon deck, but she's immediate kill on sight in my pod, imagine it'd get even worse with her at the helm
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>>97133272
Punchline
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>>97133214
there's nothing soulful about being chumped to oblivion
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>>97133298
No. There's nothing interesting about this card at all it's just artifact token slop and it will play the exact same as any other artifact token commander so I have nothing to gain from humoring your autism in needing to play this specific one over any of the others that do the exact same shit.
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>>97133325
that's not difficult to get around when half your deck is in your hand
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>>97133301
>do your azusas ever stay on board for a longer time?
In my experience, yes. People tend to save removal for the threats she ramps into.
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>>97133336
>artifact token slop
>Brain is so broken he only sees the word "investigate" among all the others, which all have nothing to do with artifacts
>Also laking all the good investigate support
Sad that anons can't think beyond their own rotten prejudices. I was thinking using damage doublers to actually kill people with repeated triggers, with Second Sunrise as a backup wincon.
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the final fantasy commander decks and 1 play booster box are the first magic cards i ever bought and i've only played arena prior to this and the cards are just so auraless. i'm actually so disappointed. like the holographic are barely holographic. the alt and full arts compared to pokemon and one piece are just sauceless like they're not even trying. why haven't they changed it up at all. like i pull a mythic and it looks like a regular card besides a little orange icon. its like if the common one piece leader cards were just the top ones
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>>97133406
>Sad that anons can't think beyond their own rotten prejudices.
Dont worry, its just poopdickschizo having a melty about a UB/Hat-set mechanic, a per usual
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>>97133439
>he didn't get the collector boosters
you still not up to speed with wotc's jewery? ngmi
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>>97131354
>What cards is Santa bringing you this Christmas?
I know that someone bought me some bundle costco was selling that had the Valgavoth precon in it. They basically told me because they had no idea which of the decks I'd actually want.

Personally, I prefer if people just ask because the surprise isn't worth the 75% chance I just need to return it.
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>>97133439
https://justbuysingles.com/
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>>97131369
>buying pets that die in like 2 years
Rats are cute but I don't get why people buy a pet that lives so short.
On the flipside I don't understand people who buy turtles and shit. Fucker is going to outlive you and then who is taking care of it?
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>>97132926
This is a worse Purphoros
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>>97133304
If I see this as your commander I am focusing you as hard as I possibly can
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Is this card that impressive anymore? 5 cost for landfall draw and life (which doesn't really matter in simic). The draw is fine, but with all the options nowadays for both green and blue I don't think it is that worth except in the most pure landfall decks, and even then theres so many options.
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>>97133564
Forgot image...
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>>97133564
This post is fun because you gave some info on what the card can be. Now I'm trying to figure it out.

>>97133574
You ruined it.
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>>97133575
Sorry ;(
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>>97133574
>5 mana
>does not win the game on the spot
shit
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>>97132724
Does he hatch with skull anywhere other than games? Game mechanics =/= lore always.
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>>97133544
2 years is still a fair bit of time.
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how to build this retard?
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>>97133298
Sure just don't do the infinite with picrel
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>>97133625
Bracket 4/bad cEDH turbo combo storm. There's no other way to build flubs.
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>>97133544
I love my dog but she needs 3 hours outside a day and that will be a lot of commitment for 10+ years. Can be easier to manage for some
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Should I do it?
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>>97132182
can lurrus function as a commander? seems dogshit
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>>97133680
Aw hell nah they wokeified saprolings now
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noooooo i don't want to spend $100 to upgrade my deck
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>>97133701
I got u comrade
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>>97133285
not how I build nethroi
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>start 4 player pod
>mull to 5
>threaten to scoop if not allowed to mull again to 7
>mull to 7 and get combo
>win in 3 turns
>MFW
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https://scryfall.com/search?q=marchesa&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
why did she lose her (white) groove?
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>>97133621
How old are you? Unironically.

2 years at my age feels like 4 months did when I was younger
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>>97133670
Get a cat?
Cats do not need assistance unless they have medical issues. Extremely self sufficient animals..

Cats are also based as fuck and nature's clowns
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>wake up
>a year's gone by
yep
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>>97133691
He's fine as a solo commander. If you play Akiri/Yoshimaru and Fransisco as partner commanders, you can have 3 commanders.
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>>97133761
what an absolute chad
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>>97133715
show nethroi list, been eyeing him for some time and need some inspiration
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>>97133768
Akiri is not a valid commander for Lurrus as companion.
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>>97133240
Black Suns Zenith
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>>97133775
unfortunately I only play nethroi in brawl. it's literally just bog standard birthing pod aristocrats with nethroi as a reset button
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>>97133747
I'm 29, two years is still a decent amount of time when you appreciate it day by day.
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>>97133240
send her to the rape dungeon
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>>97133793
When you get to your mid 30's things will speed up. It's a known phenomenon. Has to do with being able to compare to more life experiences.

It's honestly really fucking terrible.
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>>97133822
35 here. I blink and a week passes
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>>97133822
>>97133850
39 here, feels like it's it's only been 2 months since last Christmas.
Time felt slower 2 years ago when I was out of work for medical reasons. Spending most of your day at a place you hate doesn't help make it feel like time is passing fast.
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>>97133822
>>97133850
>>97133870
Go home grandpas
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>>97133822
turned a 30 yo boomer this year and cant believe its almost christmas again already.
our frengroup also has trouble finding time to play - but we did today and it was some really good games
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>>97133240
Grave Pact ?
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>>97133802
How are you going to do that when she has MoM backing her up?
You need two exile removals to deal with it.
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>>97133240
edicts
-1/-1 shit
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>friend constantly shit talks about net decking
>Look up one of his decks
>its 1:1 the same decklist as the top deck on EDHrec for the deck
>He plays it like shit missing triggers and shit constantly.
Hate in others what you hate most in yourself, right?
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>>97133406
Post the deck then.
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>>97133747
I feel ya anon. It's a blessing and a curse.
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>opponent takes longer than 3 minutes on one of their first three turns
How you know a game is doomed 101
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>>97133930
should have picked a better friend
but you have to be a better friend yourself first
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>>97133967
I had someone take 5 minutes on turn 1 with a fucking precon that had no turn 1 plays but sol ring
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>>97133930
He projects
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>>97133967
>Let see, I play a land, which gives me a mana, so I have one green floating.
>*flicks cards*
>One green floating
>counts lands
>*flicks cards"
>One green floating
>*flicks flicks"
>Taps a land to produce a green
>two green floating
>*flick*
>*flick*
>*flick*
>I just play this rampant growth and pass while I search and shuffle
>Man, he must have had a big play in his hand, or is holding for reaction
>Little do they know I just have lands in my hand
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>>97131377
according to wokeshis, all goblins are new jewish. I found the Activision one
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>>97133680
Yes. I built him and he's mad fun. Don't fall into the trap of including all these high-cost cards that mention saprolings, just run all the cheap anthems + all the cheap instants that buff creatures like Giant Growth. Pic rel is one of the most powerful cards you can run after you get a few saprolings up
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>>97133761
IS THIS REAL??????
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>Guy plays realmwalker
>Looks at the top card
>asks if we can just let him tap his fetch for mana and he'll get it later.
>Same player plays gamble
>shuffles his hand around and discards
>asks for a do-over because he got the card he tutored for
Can't imagine the friend pods these people are in when they come to the lgs and act like this.
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>>97134118
we need to physically remove these people from the premises
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>>97133761
What the fuck
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>>97134112
Cat's can compress their spines and can fit under even the smallest of cracks. My girlfriends cat does it a lot
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>>97134135
Cats are made of liquid
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>>97134135
This guy's girlfriend's cat can dance??????????????????????
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Can we have a moment of silence for the Dwarf tribal
>b-but Magda
Magda is not a dwarf deck, its an artifact slop deck. They will never print any good Dwarf cards ever because of Magda
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>>97134152
Dwarves have it better than a lot of tribes
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>>97134145
Her original cat would try to walk around on his hind legs and try freak people out. He'd vanish for days at a time and then just walk in like nothing happened. Her new cat sucks and is an actual sissy
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>>97134152
>almost 10 years later, still the best dwarves commander ever printed
Fucking blows so much
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>>97134152
Get a lifeform engine.
Everything is a dwarf
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>>97132577
It's watercolor
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>>97134162
They really don't because majority of dwarf cards suck complete ass because they're like 20 years old and only exist to facilitate cards like Magda for their creature. There's a reason all the dwarf cards in Magda decks are mainly just shitty vanillas from 1995
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>>97134177
I was gonna go to edhrec and compile about 50 tribes in its tribal list with less support than dwarves
But that's way more effort than you deserve. I'll just call you a retard and ask you to share your skeleton deck
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>>97133934
I don't have it, I'm asking mostly to see reactions and interesting deck tech.
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>>97133967
I will play fungus counter tribal and I will take 2 hour turns that don't accomplish much of anything.
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>>97134167
she cute :)
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>>97134177
How incredibly stupid ARE you? Show me your nautilus deck. Show me your armadillo deck. Show me your fucking ouphe deck. There's dozens of tribes with near-zero support, dwarves absolutely have it better than like 90% of other creature types
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>>97134152
you're gonna get a rainbow dwarf general when the hobbit set releases
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just change them all to midge
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I am really looking forward to the TMNT set
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>>97134209
This reminded me that they were going to consolidate creature types and claimed they were gonna stop getting stupid with them, only to create like 100 more creature types since that announcement
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>>97134218
Hell yeah bro, I'm happy for you
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human
subhuman
trash
angel
demon
animal
warrior
rogue
cleric
wizard
villain
hero
only creature types you need
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>>97134233
So stuff like hobbits/gnomes/dwarves will be subhuman, yeah? What's considered trash? Also desu I can't really argue against the rest of them, though older DnD folk will talk about ranged units like Archers absolutely not being Warriors/etc
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>>97134252
D&D fags can stay in their god damn lane
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>>97134252
everything I don't like is trash, slivers for example
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What are some ways in monoblack that I can encourage my opponents to fight eachother instead of me?
Preferably in ways that won't make the table miserable (obliterator, no mercy, etc.)
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>>97134252
>>97134258
no D&Dfag would say archers aren't warriors
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>>97134203
>>97134185
Not talking about the amount of support they have, its about how most of the "good" dwarves facilitate decks that aren't dwarf tribal. Even one's like >>97134167 are for vehicles mainly because dwarves do jack fucking shit because they're all awful. What dwarf cards are you going to search for? What game changing dwarf are you going to pull?

There's a mountain of dwarf cards and they barely work together at all
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>>97134269
I'm a DnD fag and I 100% agree archers aren't warriors. Warriors are close-range units, archers are long-range units. There's a difference in skills chosen and how you play them
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>>97134221
I sure am glad they killed off Viashino so timmy can run sandswimmer in his lizard tribal
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>>97134233
>human
Biggest creature type mistake in the franchise, anyone who likes it is a pozzed zoomer trooner.
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>>97134304
Imagine how shocked I was seeing Viashino instead of fucking lizard on a new card. Goddammit, Wizards
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>>97133336
Let's be brutally honest. The only reason you'd say no is because this is one of the few chances you have in life to exert power over another person.
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>>97134293
incorrect, archers are a type of fighter
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>>97134317
One of the weirdest things people get upset about
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>>97134266
Give them money for doing so.
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>>97134344
Whoops.
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>>97134266
There's Gix? Also the new Gonti, Gonti, Night Minister. Give your opponents value if they hit each other instead of you. Though Trying to get your opponents to focus each other is tough. There's always the chance that they'll not bite and instead hard focus you down. You can never really tell with some tables.
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>>97134350
man I love RKF's shit
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>>97134360
>There's Gix
I'm running him as the commander.

>>97134350
>Gonti, Night Minister
Initially I had him in the 99 but I feel like this is just going to lead to awkward games if I ever try to play the deck with randoms. No one wants to keep mental track of that many cards they own on other people's boards. I'd hate for someone's card to go missing because of it.
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>>97134405
Its really only an issue if people have different colored sleeves, though yes, maybe not everyone is as honest as I am.
Carry around a pad of paper and write down what you steal if people aren't comfortable.
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>>97134405
>I'm running him as the commander.
Oh, then yeah you've got about the best option for it in the command zone already. It doesn't really get much better in mono black. You can try some goading but there's less than ten goad cards available in mono black so you're short on options there. You could also try loading up with a bunch of death touch as well.
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>>97134317
>pic
is he fun? I'm looking to build a haste tribal commander, but my table is not super strong (optimized, but weirdly/badly done), and he sounds damn powerful.
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>>97134360
gix is funny
>hm, I could attack gix, who can block with deathtouch flyers, or I attack his opponents and draw a card... hm........
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>>97133117
Unoptimized Markov is nowhere near unoptimized Krenko/Lathril/Hakbal level. A single vanilla 1/1 for every creature cast is nothing anymore. You need evasion and anthems to make Markov hold his own (which thankfully vamps have a fair amount of) but if you're not filling out the deck with the better (and more expensive) vamps and Mardu tools, you're going to have a small board of a dozen or so trash pieces that will struggle to do chip damage. Meanwhile there's 30 goblins and elves on the table and the dozen merfolk are already 5/5s with 12 mana available.

Markov and vamps in general have fallen way off.
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>>97133304
I'd love to build her but only triggering once sucks and it's not even counters.
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>>97133047
gross
-- almost as unnerving as an out of 'theme' universe beyond slop card.
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>>97134540
I built it as a suicide bomber deck, and I think it's a ton of fun. I amass a shitload of treasures and then dump them into these kinda X spells to kill the whole table at once. If the game comes down to 1v1 before I'm ready I have a few "target creature gets +X/+X" cards for a cheeky one hit KO with an unblocked creature
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>>97134622
kek, I'm gonna give him a chance, but he sounds nasty
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>>97134622
I am surprised I don't see Nuclear fallout used much. It's pretty decent.
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>>97133047
This particular one is really funny. You can tell squeenix kept them close like a dog on a leash while handling their IP. All they could do was shart out this one random black shopkeeper instead of changing every rank and file white solider or knight card the way they normally do.
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>>97134642
It's fine, but its still a lot hard to kill things with than toxic deluge.
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>>97133822
It's probably more to do with the fact you're never going to experience anything new or novel again and there's no more milestones to achieve or goals to work toward besides retiring and preparing to die.

You've been working the same job for 10+ years, you've been with the same person for 10+ years, your life now consists of spending 50% or more of your waking hours working and maintaining and cleaning shit. There's nothing to look forward to on the horizo, there's nothing to work toward or break up the monotony. When autumn.comes you're not going off on an exciting new adventure to for your first year of high school/college, summer doesn't mean prom and parties and copping a feel on a moonlit beach, you're not working toward passing your SATs or getting your jump wings pinned on you or getting that masters degree or planning the wedding. All those days are gone and are never coming back, so you just exist to exist while nothing exciting or new or interesting happens even globally. Some more stupid wars get fought, rich get richer poor get poorer, all the exciting advancements of yesterday are today's stagnation.

Of course time is going to fly by. There's nothing to mark it by in your life anymore. People who lived totally isolated in soundless lightless caves had time completely disappear for themselves due to the lack of stimulation and our contemporary societies are structured in a way that replicates such an experience. All your fun happens before 30, then you're supposed to work until you die.
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>>97134642
It's fucking incredible as a finisher because you go last, so everyone will die in turn order with enough rad counters. And since players love to make infinite mana, it's a perfectly viable mana sink. I guess people just don't like how it's not an instant win, or they don't like the "you'll make them die yes, but you have to watch them mill 50+ cards in the mean time"
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>>97134642
It requires knowing what rad counters do.
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>>97134670
>It's probably more to do with the fact you're never going to experience anything new or novel again and there's no more milestones to achieve or goals to work toward besides retiring and preparing to die.
I'm 38 and this is how the last 10+ years have been for me. I'm not rich enough to be able to travel so every day, every week, every month is exactly the same
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>>97131853
>my future wife
she's used goods anon
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>>97134669
Use both. Your deck should have more than 1 boardwipe
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>>97134670
my third trip to japan was probably my last, just wasn't into it
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>>97134712
I already have a second board wipe that goes around protections.
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>>97134734
I recently found myself in two situations where it did nothing for me
>opponent had creature out that exiles all permanents he sacs, then returns them to the battlefield when it dies
>opponent had 50 rabbits
I have since replaced it
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>>97134750
Perhaps the same could be said of blasphemous act
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>>97134750
Every card gets countered by something.
If you don't have the health to pay to kill the board or the mana to kill big beaters neither toxic deluge or nuclear fallout will do anything either.
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>>97134670
You need to find joy in the little things anon. I look forward to seeing a species of bird I haven't seen in my area before and it's enough of a thing to hope for it keeps me hiking every week. If you can't find something like that for yourself of course life will seem drab.
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Anyone ever proxy Master Edition versions of cards? Thinking of trying it if I ever print out this cube I'm working on for the sake of readability while keeping old borders, but I don't know how weird they'll look. They've definitely always looked off at a glance to me looking at them online.
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>>97134796
cute
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>>97134759
which is why I only run it if I have no better board wipes
>>97134778
sure, that's just my pod. I still run it in my low mana rakdos aristocrats, but only being able to hit 13 creatures is bad against good token decks.
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>>97134266
What deck? I've been trying to slot this bad boy into a deck for a minute.
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Thread, what's that super expensive card that's been sitting unused in your library since you bought it?
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>>97134796
>it's enough of a thing to hope for it keeps me hiking every week
Pretty based, anon. Reminds me of this that just happened
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>>97134838
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>>97134796
Nice to see a genuine girl posting in this thread. Glad you're finding little joys in life. But also stfu Redditor I'm too busy getting cancer from welding 60 hours a week to frolic through the meadows looking for birds.
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>>97134838
I bought it on impulse in a store on the hopes emeria was going to get unbanned, its just been collecting dust since
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>>97134759
blasphemous act is good because you run it in decks where you have creatures bigger than 13 toughness
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>>97134807
They're easily one of the best use cases of proxying. There's a ton of older cards that are confusing as fuck, that, when modernized, can be read in one short sentence
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>>97134840
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>>97134852
I don't know why I said Emeria instead of iona
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>>97134853
Blasphemous act is good because there's nothing better in red. Not a lot of decks that have access to say, white, bother with it.
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>>97134838
Cracked during draft. Zero decks I can be bothered to cram it into.
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>>97134851
>I'm too busy getting cancer from welding 60 hours a week
Okay but you see how this is your fault, right? You could've switched careers a long time ago but didn't. Or you could've worked for a company that actually gave a shit about PPE but you didn't.
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>>97134838
First money card I ever pulled.
All my decks are green but I only build budget decks.
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>>97134866
This card not only goes in every tribal deck ever but also any deck with a commander that has a trigger.
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>>97134851
Im a dude and I'm a company driver working 50 hour weeks.
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>>97134838
This is 137 in foil.
I'm not playing fuckin Thoracle.
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>>97134882
Damn dude sell that shit. Though it probably won't die down in price, the earlier you cash on the hype, the easier time you'll have selling it
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>>97134853
blasphemous act is good because you can run it with repurcussions to randomly win games with a soft 2 card combo.
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>>97134897
I have a deck built around that with Piru and these effects. It can get pretty fucking nuts
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>>97134895
I love the artist. Otherwise I would. I want to get a wall thing to put it in so I can at least display it. As is it just sits in a hard plastic case in a pile at the moment

This shit costs almost as much as a 32 inch print signed by her
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speaking of icky yucky femanon posters
which vtubers are confirmed to lurk the thread and how can i convince them to play with me on tts so i can win their hearts with my unicorns+princes lathiel deck
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>>97134922
Probably someone with 5 views
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>>97134922
God vtubers are disgusting.
Human parasites wearing anime costumes.
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>>97134942
better than demon parasites wearing human costumes
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>>97134796
Incredibly based I hope good things happen to you anon
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>Card you really really like but just isn't good to survive the first round of cuts
What's its name, /edhg/? Pic related for me, 5 mana is just too much to bear for any deck which would run this
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>want to play toph because fun artifact into creatures doom bots fun
>friends hate toph because "earth bending is impossible to interact with because they just come back"
sadness
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>>97135124
Not your fault they're stupid anon, play what you like.
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If only Amy Pond + The First Doctor had a valid companion. It would let you almost have 5 cards in the command zone.
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>>97135142
>turn 2 equipment into 2/2 earthbent lands over 3 turns
>friend playing zuko shits out 20 damage each to me and another player and drops 6 other firebenders because of flash and tons of mana
>literally 6 seconds later everyone goes "yeah we afraid of toph. she is overpowered! yeah those lands are impossible to destroy they just come back over and over"
I'm not joking or being facetious. this happened and I could not grasp how people can say this
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>>97135186
>>friend playing zuko shits out 20 damage each to
Which zuko does this?
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>>97135120
I use this as an overrun effect in Raffine. For me it's this one, always ends up as the last cut at 101 or 102.
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>>97135124
Find new group
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>>97135120
It's worse than a fucking colorless artifact.
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>>97135191
He had these 3 and some other card that gave a small buff
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>>97135216
me on the left
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I finally got around to merging derevi hatebears and kastral into bant birbs since I pulled a traveling chocobo
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Avatar has some of the most powerful commanders of all time
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>>97135268
like fifteen hundred examples
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>>97135274
I don't think there are fifteen hundred avatar cards
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>>97131517
No shortage of cards in Selesnya to gain life
>Various one mana Wardens
>Sunscorch Regent
>Dragonlord Dromoka
>Trostani, Selesnya’s Voice
>Samwise Gamgee for Food tokens which can also be used as recursion
>Heliod, Sun Crowned
These are just off the top of my head
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>he thinks this isn't the single most important word on a commander
https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=o%3Apartner
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>>97135216
How did he give his creatures flash?
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>store pops up super close to me
>decide to buy a box support the local store etc
>charges me per pack on a box
>tell him that's more than a collector and far more than I'm willing to spend
>rants at me about it
>check the discord since its actually pretty popular
>actively selling buy a box promos and not giving out the promos or hosting events

ahhh sealed commander is actually fun as fuck
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>>97135295
vedalken orrery is the most common
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>>97135308
So it was a 4 piece combo that didn't even win the game and every one allowed it to happen?
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>>97135307
subhuman behavior
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>>97135308
dead on
>>97135317
please understand, the earth bending is the most powerful because you can't interact with them. they just come back every turn. you can earthbend a fetch land and ramp each turn
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>>97135317
I'm not that anon, but commander players rarely have it, let alone the "always have it" espoused on these threads. Its very likely the zuko player just highrolled the opener and got to steamroll out.
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>>97135326
No one had a single piece of removal for 6+ turns while Zuko was setting this jank up?
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>>97135331
please understand that removal isn't fun
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>>97135331
6 turns? You could play all that shit on curve or even beating curve if you have a couple rituals. The main bottleneck for any of this are pips for Zuko
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If there’s one thing the Nips are good at, it’s keeping a tight hand on their franchises and holding a gun to the back of the heads of anyone they let handle it for things like crossovers. Probably still a result of the collective mental aneurysms DB Evolution gave them.
>Tfw friends who are anti-Nip bitched that the FF set didn’t have enough diversity and are adamant LA’s diversity and popularity among my age group will make it become the most sold MtG set
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>>97135120
Just can't find a fucking home for it. I love the idea of putting a literal clock on the game to end long stalemates, but by the time I can get it out and running, people have way too much mana to defeat it
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>>97135347
This would be at home in any proliferate deck with an artifact focus cuz you can stack up them discount$$$
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>>97135347
?

Aside from the jeskai artifact commander literally made for tech like this, there's mono blue burn. I need to update this list actually

https://moxfield.com/decks/NxnhtCqZ_keU2HAlAFgnag
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>>97135347
Put it in Obeka splitter of seconds.
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>>97135124
>dude earthbending is complete bullshit
>you used badgermole cub and harrow to shit out kyoshi on turn 4 with earth crystal
>this is so unfair!!!

Then I played pic rel and told him to shit up ni-



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