Me and the Boys Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous thread >>97130159>TQ: Which minor locations on the WHFB/TOW map deserve full campaign books?
>>97136163>>TQ:>Which minor locations on the WHFB/TOW map deserve full campaign books?I think the southern chaos wastes offer a wonderful canvas and can be made to be way more interesting than just being the same as the northern chaos wastes, but with no human presence and no invasions ever coming from there.
>>97136163>TQdarklands, it has always just been potential land with nothing ever happening
>>97136233Agreed, it's basically mordor with chorfs
cathay was a mistake
I just ruined six hours of painting by being a complete idiot and overdoing it with the blood paint again. I need to sleep, this has been a complete disaster.
>>97136313yeah, you dun fucked up
>>97136278It could have been worse, I remember some old interview mentioning how an idea for cathay used to be an entire civilization of furry dragonborn
>>97136233what can it be filled with?>chaos dwarfs >black orcs>hobgoblins>non-chaos barbarians>dread maws>merchant roads>dragons graveyard what else?
Goblin spider riders any use? Found some dirt cheap
>>97136333>empire mining companies that think they're the exception>remnants of failed nehekharan colonies>dwarf ranger outposts in the west or other dwarf bullshit
>>97136163>the best wizards in Warhammer>even the nu-hammers don't look too bad>gorgeous Averlander city in the backgroundThe Empire wins on all fronts once again!>TQMaybe a corner of Osterland? In fact, let's axe everything outside of the Empire and some of those minor human realms. Everything needs to take place in the protagonists' lands.(I'll concur with >>97136233, that looks like a great place for a campaign. Worst case scenario one can give it Kenshi vibes outside of the chaos midget areas)>>97136182Isn't that place filled with beastmen? I don't need to hear even more ra roos.
>>97136163> TQThe Drakwald could make for a good campaign book. It has obvious hooks for multiple factions, forest-fighting is an interesting alternative way to play, and it's vague enough that you can probably justify any faction being there.Also has 4 easy AoIs:> Middenland/Cult of Ulric> Drakwald Beastmen> Black Pit Forest Goblins> Eonir Wood Elves
>>97136163>TQMousillonWould make a great Mordheim successor. Had an idea of a peasant mob with pitchforks and torches led by a disgraced knight versus a necrarch and his gaggle of undead, mutants, and flesh golems.
>>97136313Silver lining that looks metal so stripping will be easy?
>>97136433>Isn't that place filled with beastmen?Yes and no, since there were no humans when the catastrophe happened, they are not really a mixture between man and beast, but rather beast and demonsomehowand also there was the funny incident in one of archaon's books where the mutants he encountered mutated from a bestial look to a more humanoid look, the further they were mutated, contrary to how stuff usually is with humans mutating towards bestial looks.But as far as I know, despite the misconception of that being a gimmick of mutants in the south wastes, it was actually a weird effect of traveling through the southern portal to reach the northern one.But even if it's not canon, it's an entertainingly uncanny thing to implement.
>>97136163>TQSudenland
>>97136479In TOW Mousillion hasn't Fallen yet, so it wouldn't fit within that timeline
Why are so many of you Beastmen players?
>>97136644big fat ugly bastard boardbig fat ugly bastard thread
>>97136644models are a blast to paint, convert, kitbash, etc, open to fluff your dudes however you want (within reason) and they are a fun to play.
>>97136433Man I really wish empire got updated knights
>>97136687Just buy Cathay lancers. They’re both humans on the same mounts.
New here. Is this game like f2p crap in that the starting boxes are cheap but in order to have a non-shit army you need to buy super expensive heroes and special units?
>>97136644They exemplify the zone between low and high fantasy thats hard to pull off well with some folk horror charm.The sons of Fat Bloke will always keep his dream alive!
>>97136721No thats 40k. This is what GW calls a "specialist game" where they fuck you over less because its a smaller but more dedicated audience, proper grog shit innit lad?
>>97136721>in that the starting boxes are cheap but in order to have a non-shit army you need to buy super expensive heroes and special units?kinda the opposite it's a large buy-in at the start but single model characters are pretty cheap at least in TOW, AoS and 40k it's a bit different
>>97136721no! The starting boxes are expensive too.Don't use official models and pay less than half.
>>97136727>Two units on same base???
>>97136745Its a special unit from the beastmen arcane journal called a wild herd brought back from 6th edition.In the lore they are the most fanatical beastmen, think they are the savage orcs to the bestigors black orcs, and on the tabletop half gor and half ungor gives them benefits from both eg the frenzy from Gors and Ambush from Ungors. Fun unit but unless you run a specific army of infamy does not count as a core unit for your list.
>>97136687How come? I'm one of the guys that complains about the state troop sculpts a lot, but I love the knights (and the archers). Some of the faces are a bit wacky, but if you use the regular closed helmets with the feathers you can paint some gorgeous miniatures.>>97136721Nothing from GW is cheap anon. The army boxes actually tend to be alright for most races in that they offer most of the regular units you really need + one or two 'vehicles' (steam tanks, gyros, chariots). Heroes are overly expensive for just one model. Depending on the army you can use proxies from other companies. The Empire and Bretonnia both got lots of non-GW options as several producers jumped into the gap that GW left + high medieval knights and 16th century Germans are popular unto themselves.
What are the most affordable armies? on paper it looks like Beastmen and Ogres but i imagine tourney waacfags skew those numbers with shit like the balloon boys.
>>97136765>beastmen >xheap Not even with the Minotaur list
>>97136774Friend you are forgetting all the unsold Age of Sigmar Start Collecting, Broken Realms, Spearhead and Vanguard boxes on clearance.Got a vanguard one the other day for £45 from a bargain bin. Bray Shaman, 10 ungors, 10 gors, 10 bestigors and 3 dragon ogres. You get two of those for less than a hundred quid? oh boy you are cookin'
>>97136798Don't make me post the pile of discounted TOW boxes.
>>97136805The ones in Luxembourg?
>>97136805Aren't everything but gors and ungors outside the Battallion online only?
>>97136812They were still there as of this weekend. I'm surprised to see they added Cathay stuff to the pile given it's recent.
>>97136813Only things sold in stores are Gors, Bestigors, the Shaman model and the Battalion box
>>97136818FAQ's coming they know the Balloon Boys are getting ready to bounce to the next waacshit lists.
>>97136762The horses just look old and derpy next to any more recent GW horse sculpt - whether its the horses pulling the war wagon / war altar, empire general, bret horses, or even just the (now) older chaos marauder horsemen ones, and especially against the new cathay lancersThe riders are also very old and you can tell immediately when they're next to any other horses
>>97136837>you can tell immediately when they're next to any other horsesI meant next to demigryph knights
>>97136765Cheapest option is to print. The problem with so many ranges being so old is that third party models are actually better than the official ones and have a coherent aesthetic because they weren't sculpted over literally decades.Highlands Miniatures do most TOW ranges and only lack Chaos and Beasts. Avatars of War do a spectacular range of greenskins.
why do wood elf dancers look like this.
its time
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>>97136879>>97136881>>97136886>>97136891This shits whisperin' to me like the Green Goblin mask.
>>97137001you wouldn't be so ignoble to ignore the gnoblars, would you?
>>97137020Beautiful..
>>97137020>The one trapper in the wolf fur cape in the center front rowI love how that model is unspokenly agreed upon by everyone to be HIM when they want a gnoblar leader.
>>97136837>>97136842That's fair. I personally like the old look for an Empire army, but I'm very selective with which sculpts I'm using because of the mismatch between some of the older and newer minis.>>97137020>gnine hundred gnoblarsI gneel...
>>97136644Playstyle. Ambush skirmish is fucking fun, and monster front side. Been playing beastmen since 7th, and loved every moment even though they absolutely sucked until this edition.
>I like this faction they are cool>Their gameplay bores meWhy does this keep happening.
>>97136752Was even better than that. Skirmish with rank bonus and only ungors took ranged shots
>>97137020Oh my Gnob
>>97137263>All the WoC mouthbreathers at my locals consistently called Ungors trash and stuff like this always pushed their shit in during 6th.Is there a more underappreciated unit than Ungors?
>>97136644Because
>>97137334why does the guy have a massive shield
>>97137337He protects.
>>97137342deez nuts.
>>97136313Dunno man the armor itself looks amazing its the tail and axe that look a bit off maybe try drybrushing over it.I like the way it looks
>>97136818I think it’s a recurring case of initial model orders sell out, and they restock with way too much.
>>97137334the shield and mace keep being too much
>>97137337Beastman brain goes bigger=better.thats why the shield and the club are too big club, even the woman are fucking massive.
>>97136721>buying from gw>everAnon there is 50 years worth of aftermarket deals and third party companies.
>>97137404maybe it's the beastmen who are small
>>97137426Halfling sized beastmenREEEEE ROOOOO
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>>97137440>HoglinsGW get on it!
>>97137334>the white discolouration on and around her crotchBeastie boys are going too far...
>>97136765The cheapest option is buying dwarves or orcs from em4 miniatures. Literally 50 monopose minis for 15 fucking £.Then you check your toy store for any cool dragon or wyverns for dirt cheap and convert one of the orcs as its raider. I saw a bag of suitable wyvern, chimera and griffin sold for 2$.
>>97137440Been looking for pig/boar heads to put on Ungors, anyone know of any third party place that sells stuff like that?
>>97137473Counterpoint: Dwarves and Orcs are normie shit for people that listen to Windrose. Beastmen and Ogres is king shit.
>>97137446M5, S2, T3, Ld 6, primal fury, Beastial charge, Razor tusk, impact hits (1), horde, Warband. Ship it!
>>97137500>Finally we can sell all these Gnoblar kits thanks to the new pigs head upgrade sprue!
>>97137500Wait! M4, Swift stride instead
>>97137488The question was about the cheapest ones.>>97137473Also for dwarves you can convert them as shielbearers for king. You can also find cannons on the cheap in the same cheap shit toy category. Souldark.ru sells russian Teknolog miniatures at very affordable prices (its shipping costs that fuck you), they also provide dwarves and have cannons sold for 1$
are we back?
>>97137582yes
>>97136233Agreed! I especially want a bestiary for it. There are brief mentions of it being full of horrible creatures, but we don't actually know what any of them are beyond the taurus and lammasu.>>97136333There are a few skaven clans that operate in it as well, namely Rictus and Krizzor.
>>97136765For GW minis? Probably Chaos warriors, decent 2nd hand market, good conversion potential for some units (forsaken, chosen, etc), very high individual points cost. 3D printing makes the question a little moot though, especially with ranges like Highlander minis or Fabazel etc that put out wonderful sculpts.>>97137440At some point I need to extract all the little mugshots from the 4E sourcebooks and compile them somewhere, they're really good for getting Old World vibes.>>97137488You take the good name of Orcs and Goblins out of your fucking mouth.
>>97137672A lot of the artist for WFRP books put them on their socials, that probably the most efficient way to get them
>>97136644I actually gave up beastmen and broke up my 2000pt army this year. a few of them got recycled into my PtG warbands but the giants have gone to the great paddock in the sky.
>>97137672this art is so good but who’s weapon is on top? what can either of them do from this position? maybe thats the intention it activates my imagination hehe
>>97137334Three consecutive examples of one of the dumbestworst conversions you can do: giving someone a wieldable many times too large for them to ever carry and use without>muh magic strungth(Not Represented by Rules or Lore)
>>97137767also a perfect illustration of why multipart models are a trap for poseletscheck out Mr. Mace's mail standing at attention horizontally/blowing in the stiffest wind ever recorded
>>97137759Looks like the sword is on top. As for what they can do, well, I think the swordsman could try a slicing cut towards the orc's neck or hands. Probably while stepping back out, being that close to someone with arms about as thick as your torso likely isn't the best idea. The orc meanwhile doesn’t seem to have a whole lot of options to really block anything done by the sword here with his axe, so trying to grab the sword's guard or the man's arm instead, or depending on the timing simply pre-empt it all and with a tackle, grab or smashing the swordsman in the face with his right fist.If the axe is on top then the sword poses little immediate risk to the orc, so leave at least one hand on the axe to keep things that way for the next few moments while going fort punching/kicking/tackling/grabbing/headbutting.
Ok so we want to introduce one of our friends to old world. He's been a 40k player for a long time but recently sold most of his minis because the game is apparently a mess. He was a skaven player back in 6th. So we want to get him aos skaven models for TOW. What would be the best option?>christmas box>half skaventide>start collecting (or whatever it's now called)I'm aware skaven is a legacy army and might not be present in a hypothetical 2nd edition. We have lizardmen and dark elf players using the renegade rules and we never play competitively so that's not gonna be an issue
>>97137905skaventide
>>97137672Goblins are cooler than Orcs, call the cops.
>>97137905Avoid the Spearhead; Stormfiends don't have TOW rules and I think they're too big to run as rat ogres. Skaventide is all usable outside of the mounted hero if you run the big gun as a WLC.
>>97136818holy shit that's cheap.ToW is dead in luxembourg ?or is the overall market getting saturated ?
>>97137982>ToW is deadyes
>>97137905I would be forthright with him just how bad skaven are IE to the point they will probably lose even to rule of cool casual armies. Because I could see that killing is enthusiasm if they are borderline unplayable bad. As for pick ups skaventide is probably best value overall with only the guy on the rat monster and the weapon platform (although it’s pretty easy to bullshit as a lighting canon) not having super easy TOW stand ins
>>97137928>>97137965>>97137987Gotcha, thanks lads. I'm guessing the christmas box is a good 2nd choice after he finishes building the skaventide box? Since it has vermins and jezzails and all that jazz
>>97138007I mean if you can find it, its not bad. I dunno if stormvermin can fit on the bases though.
So found out that when the Ogor refresh comes to AoS, the old Ironguts models are going to be repackaged and be sold as the 'new' Badlands Ogre Bulls. I'm guessing this is the source of the Ogre Kingdoms in Old World rumour.
>>97138024wonder when GW is going to replace the old Marauder Imperial Ogre models
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>>97137982If you’re genuinely interested https://oldworldrankings.com/ . TOW is very much alive. You can also track tournament attendance over time and see that TOW is picking up speed (while during the same period AoS shrank)
>>97137767stay mad lol
>>97137982A lot of shops seem to have overstocked really weird parts of old world.I know my local only bothered to get tomb king skeletons and cav, high elf infantry, and night goblins and only the core rule book. A lot being online only probably isn’t helping, but stores seem to have bad habits in terms of good ideas on what they should stock. Picrel is my local’s Warhammer section. Old world and heresy are shoehorned into the back wall Heresy is also mostly just marine kits and upgrade sets with AP almost zero vehicles beyond a flier nobody cared about when it got shown off
>>97138067What with the random table of Spearhead and Necromunda boxes?
Bows or throwing spears on orc boyz?
>>97138024Wouldn't surprise me. I can't imagine many people are buying the current metal.
>>97138067Also as an add on. The 40K and AoS sections are also just weird. A LOT of stuff you would maybe need one of in your army, but basic picks not having a lot or not much available is bizarre
>>97138048Doesn't say anything about luxembourg? Also:>france : 359 players>germany : 226 players>spain : 1009 playersDamn what the fuck?
>>97138080Bows not even close
>>97138078No idea honestly. Presumably it’s over flow, because that stuff wasn’t discounted.That or someone asked to look at something and then decided nah on it and the staff didn’t want to have to run back to the case. But the staff definitely isn’t lazy enough to just not do that
>>97138101Spain has always been really into WFB for whatever reason
>>97138067What third world country do you live in where all the minis are behind safety glass? Brazil?
>>97138101Spain is crazy about mini painting. A lot of model/paint companies are Spanish in origin
>>97138109Not only that, but 6th ed still reigns supreme.
>>97138111Warhammer was the only part of the store behind glass. Paints, other game systems, historical models, and expensive ass RC kits were open to browse.
>>97138136were are the pokemon, Yu-gi-oh, and MTG cards stored?
>>97138111Worse, Detroit.
>>97138067>>97138111>>97138136I am sorry I am trying to be less of an inflammatory asshole. Is it Brazil? You're not the Luxembourg poster are you?
>>97138153I honestly have no idea if they even stock them. If they do probably around the register.>>97138175Knoxville Tennessee Store is hobby town USA This pic is grabbed from their google reviews. They trust everyone aside from the Warhammer players apparently. About a year ago even that was open to browse.All I can assume is people started stealing blisters or parts of sprues
>>97138067>>97138136>>97138191i knew this was the Knoxville HobbyTown before you posted this third one. didn't want to dox you though. the other LGS in knoxville don't have kits behind glass, though (Scifi City, CM Games)
>>97138200No idea another store existed. All I know is hobby town and a GW store that is never open when I make the trip. Every few months or so me and some friends load up for. A car trip to Knoxville from Kentucky to hobby shop.
>>97138067To be honest what do you stock for TOW? Do you only look at the meta options? Then you'll piss off people who actually do play combined arms because that looks and feels cooler. What about the reverse? It's a difficult thing to figure out with limited shelf space and how many kits there are for.. everything these days, and it just keeps growing.
>>97138191>They trust everyone aside from the Warhammer players apparentlyThat's funny, here the only stuff locked up is singles in display cases and then booster boxes for TCG's (locked up as kept somewhere in the back). Never heard of a Warhammer heist done in my city. People keep stealing cards tho, this one poor LGS in my city has been hit 11 times since September lmao
>>97138227CM Games has/had the second best stock for GW shit and paints, but they just discontinued their TOW stock. basically their whole SGS section, really.
>>97138103Whysat?
>>97138241For all I know it might also be risk assessment by the store.Sure a big RC. Kit might cost a few hundred to a grand or more and a big historical kit might cost over a hundred bucks.But that’s not something you slide into a coat pocket. Compared to a single character box, a ten man squad, or a randomly valuable part of a kit which might cost the store less, but if it cost the store a decent bit to actually stock those items and they are easy to steal I could see it beign preemptive
>>97138055Fellow beastbro you will tell me where that middle shield is from right now or by Allah I will sneak into your house and clip it off your little goat mans arm
>>97138055These are sick as fuck, great work
>>97138055>>97137334These looks great. GOATed if you will ;)
>>97136644I'm convinced it's two or three guys astroturfing them, beastmen have always been the redheaded step child of chaos.
You only see a couple of different beastman paint styles so it's definitely just a couple of goons having a laugh. Either way if GW ever decides to nerf the Viletide + Hagtree Fetish interaction we'll go back to the normal levels of one Beastman player per continent.
>>97138429They wouldn't really need to nerf Viletide + Hagtree Fetish, they'd just need to nerf the monsters it takes out.
>>97138503That combo still deletes elite cav and infantry.
>>97137020So this... is the power of peak gnautism
>>97138115I've noticed that a lot of golden daemon finalists are spanish, checks out
behead all beastniggers
>>97138564I wonder who could be behind this post
>>97136879>>97136881>>97136886>>97136891Well we've got one AoI for when they bring out Arcane Journal: Ogre Kingdoms what's the second one going to be. My money's on an expy of BCR from AoS.
>>97138564Lost any eyes lately m8? lmao
You guys remember when we thought we were gonna get night at the museum Fimir? Those were the good times.
>>97138630>/aosg/ convinced themselves fimir were coming in 2021>/wfg/ convinced themselves fimir were coming in 2025They're coming to 40k in 2029
>>97138657Wouldn't that just be Gensetealer Cults
>>97138657Space fimir would be fun as fuck
Fimir are never coming back. Too much controversy which makes no fucking sense in a setting that has goddamn Slaneesh and Beastmen but for some reason Fimir really fucking trigger people.
>>97138630List from that rumor was so fucking kino.Thats how you know it was false - gw would never put such effort into their product.
>>97138708Yeah it is weird that Fimir, an army that had implied rape in one sentence back in 1992 is considered untouchable but in 40k they have an army whose entire thing is "We take over planets with rape." (Genestealer Cults)
>>97138727It's the fact people get triggered over rape in general in fucking Warhammer, a setting based on brutal grimdark violence. Like what the fuck is Slaneesh doing when it takes over cities? Having tea parties?Fimir being weird rape hive monsters is their thing. It's terrifying, it's dark as fuck, it's what makes them interesting and not just another set of Beastmen/Orcs.
>>97138429Yeah we need green furred beastmen that would be rad.
