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Badgermole Cub edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97136086

>TQ
What UB card or mechanic you wish was in regular MtG?
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THIS GAME IS SHIT
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The time is nigh.

Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home.
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>>97141758
Maybe when you ban all the retarded combo shit and tutors
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>premodern on mtgo
lol this format has been drifting towards like 3 decks for a while now. premodern becoming an official format will only cement this.
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I'm going to be honest, I'm huffing the hopium that the shift towards gay sets causes a UW renaissance if it brings the writing up to the level of gay bolas anon's fanfic.
If he gets hired I legitimately have hope that magic can recover.
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We should allow retroactive take backs for the last 20 years of pro-magic. I'm sure a lot of PT and Worlds would have gone different if mistakes were easily revertable back then
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>>97141858
>about to lose the game
>take back all choices and resume the game at mulligan
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This is your future Lorwyn
Based obviously on Romantasy
Say something about it
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why did scryfall have to go to shit right when I started really get into making a cube
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>>97141765
we'll have to wait for some challenges results, so far we have
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/contraption-league-2025-12-0810076
mono black, stiflenought, stasis and oath
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/contraption-league-2025-12-0910076
2x enchantress, stasis, the rack and stiflenought again
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>>97141858

what a shitshow that was. world tour pro top 8 and the judges were like "fuck decisions, just do what you want."
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>>97141961
>>97141996
how come millennial tumblr women still have this much influence over creative decisions in big franchises in 2025?
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>>97141996
BOLAS OUT OF THE CLOSET!!!
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>>97141765
Premodern Horizons will save the format.
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>>97141961
>>97141996
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>>97141996
Gay bolas confirmed
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how is premodern full of "experimenting" when the pool and bans never change? or are the archetypes so perfectly rock, paper scissors that the meta never stagnates and becomes solved?
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someone tldr the takeback thing? how egregious was it?
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>>97141961
It's cute, I think we should give romantasy a shot. I like it when they explore different flavors of fantasy, they showed that they can do good things with bloomburrow.
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>>97142091
Literally countered an uncounterable spell. Should have lost the card to a misplay. Bullshit!
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>>97142096
I think the whole point of the plane system was to give new styles their own places, instead of overwriting existing planes
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>>97141961
i don't remember seeing this in lorwyn before. this looks more like an eldraine thing. is this really going to be a lorwyn card?
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>>97142091
>make mistake that literally loses him the game
>"ups my bad, let's roll that back"
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>>97142104
just be glad we are visiting any planes at all at this point. the ub- only year will come.
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>>97142089
because of how small the format has been
high stakes premodern tournaments are quite rare and relatively new
official support is likely to accelerate the format towards being "solved"
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>>97142109
Some elementals of LRW aren't so different.
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>>97142089
Premodern isn't full of "experimenting" because the pool and bans never change. The archetypes are perfectly rock, paper scissors, so the meta is stuck and solved completely. Some delusional retards who are fine with this state of their game are trying to gaslight you into thinking premodern isn't boring and dumb.
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>>97142116
was this a judging error? this seems like a very textbook problem. where did the controversy come from?
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maybe if wotc sees interest in premodern they'll print some fucking old school cards like yugioh does
blue eyes white dragon is a 10 cent card because they just print the cards that people want all the time like they should
why is armageddon like 10 bucks
the cards that people know and enjoy should fill every bulk box on the planet
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>>97142210
>why is armageddon like 10 bucks
because land destruction is a feel bad no no in FIRE era
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>>97142210
We heard you. Here's a showcase only print that doesn't change the secondary market price.
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dafore (#1 ranked cube drafter) publishes retrospective tier list for 2025 draft sets
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Speaking of retconing planes, I'm still mad they compleatly removed the slav-isms from Ravnica after literally naming the plane "Plane" in Balkanoid and basing the city off Prague with half the names being "Wszczjek"
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>>97142239
Well, I'm pissed that they created a faerietale plane and payed 0 respect to actual faerie tales. They rename a whole fucking plane because some indians *might* get offended if they squint really hard, but warping the themes of the stories that formed my childhood by 180° is apparently okay.
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>>97142245
>they created a faerietale plane and payed 0 respect to actual faerie tales
What did they do?
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>>97142239
that logo is so "2000s product"
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>>97142230
Aetherdrift B pfthahahahaha
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>>97141858
i want a retroactive take back for the last 20 years of my life
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>>97141996
>>97141961
LMAOOOOO
I was just thinking what gimmick they would give to Lorwyn to justify going back to it after they raped Kamigawa, looks like it's the gay pride plane now
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>>97142089
Well once it is on MTGO it will become solved within two weeks so congrats, I guess?
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>>97142154
New-ish tournament rules actually allow for takebacks. Now, these are intended for lower stakes events and newer players so this is angle-shooting of the highest order.

Then again, anyone who is even vaguely familiar with actual high level tournament play shouldn't be surprised at all, this kind of thing has been happening for decades.

TL;DR - Guy is still a dick, but he is a dick within the current tournament rules so...
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>>97142230
I found the FF set way more fun than any others in draft. Best MtG I've played for six years running at least.
God Eldraine ruined this game for me actually.
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>>97142317
Same, except NEO was actually amazing for draft and even better than FF
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>>97142307
>>97141745
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>>97141964
>2x enchantress, stasis, the rack and stiflenought again

my favorite decks
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haha oops i'll just take it back
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>>97141996
>holy day of rohatsu
>spoil it with faggot stories
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Age of gay Lorwyn be upon ye
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>>97142003
/tg/ (and /co/) products are made by very insular, nepotistic groups. If they have some independent cash flow (e.g. piggies buying UB products) then they're largely detached from market forces.
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I just want good common faeries in nu-lorwyn...
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what are the chances they are making lorwyn gay just for the fact of pushing the UB slop sets?
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>>97142752
Doesn't matter. I fuck your faeries with the chad chrysalis
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>>97142820
*taps you*
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The only thing that could interest me in nu-Lorwyn is Chippy coming back to make an art or two.
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>>97142307
but tournament rules specifically require that no new information be given; furthermore, the rules give specific examples of what counts, none of which are similar to what happened.
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>>97141996
>McGuire was diagnosed as autistic in 2020[67] and has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.[68][69] She identifies as pansexual,[70] bisexual,[71] and demisexual.[72]
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>>97142905
Why the fuck they hire this kind of people? They get fiscal benefits or something?
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anyeone else hate how "clean" the shadowmoor creatures look, they used to be repulsive, gave you a viceral reaction, now they all look too safe
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>>97142959
It's not Shadowmoor anymore, anon.
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>>97142929
>They get fiscal benefits or something?
Yes actually. It's to get disabled people working
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>>97141996
You people really just believe any old fucking image don't you. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/lorwyn-eclipsed-episode-1-out-of-this-wood
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>>97142905
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>>97143005
It's because no one trusts Closets out the Coast to not put gayhomo piggery in their shit.
Hence why no one questions that fag shit.
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>>97143005
It's dawning on me that things like this mean that nothing can really be trusted here to be sincere. You shouldn't have to fact check screenshots here and it just kinda shows people here just want to push outrage than any critical discussion. It's like /tv/ and /v/ where the outrage is manufactured like that image. You can't actually trust people here to be sincere anymore it's actually sad.
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mtg is like this because it's made by americans and america is a giant islamic sex slave ring
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>>97142254
The 2000s feel far more futuristic than today where everything is a cheaply designed piece of slop meant primarily to be enjoyed via a little glass rectangle made by indian children.
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>>97143109
>anon edits title
>people fall for the doctored title
>how could wotc do this to us????
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>>97142838
Cool, thanks for galvanic'ing yourself. I sac it to fanatical offering and get it black with blood fountain thumbsupemoji thumbsupemoji thumbsupemoji
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>>97143115
Nice try, but we all know it's a giant jewish sex slave ring
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>>97143163
>company has track record of being faggots
>someone shoops some gay shit
>anons believe it instantly
did you unintentionally stumble upon how to do comedy, Anon?
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>>97143005
You think anyone bitching about the Magic story actually reads the story? I'd wager less than half have ever read lore, old or new, beyond a summary.
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>>97143195
I'll just wait for that anon that summarises the stories
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>>97143204
He already did last thread lol, you're proving my point.
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>>97143165
JUUUUDGE opponent is trying to cheat by using a blood fountain I countered with stutter
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>>97143194
Can't say I expected anything else from you
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>>97143194
This "person" is a philosophical zombie, a literal NPC.
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It is now coming up on year 12 of me not understanding why EVERY depiction of hot babes/strong men is now actively bad. Back in 2014 I said sure, fine, I don't mind gay characters as long as they aren't preachy. Now there are basically no characters I can identify with. And jace doesn't count because he's simply not as cool anymore.
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>>97143005
> Anon struggles to understand normal human interactions
Best part about this sight is sometimes I'm not the most autistic person in the room.
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>>97143238
>projecting his sexual insecurities this obviously
Anon, it's 2025. You won't get lynched for wanting to suck big throbbing cocks.
Maybe if you're cute i'll let you lick with 2 incher.
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>>97143228
Oops i take it back
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>>97142089
Why people still play chess and poker?
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>>97143352
Because those are symmetrical games, where the perfect strategy is the same regardless of which player you are. Perfect strategy in Magic would mean that everyone plays the same deck, unless the format is perfectly balanced. There just hasn't been enough experimenting to find perfect strategy yet. Like anons already said, give it a month or two and the format will be solved.
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>>97143386
>here just hasn't been enough experimenting to find perfect strategy yet.

Define perfect strategy.
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>>97143272
Who's your favorite Ninja Turtle?
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>>97143386
>JUST TWO MORE WEEKS GUYS
>TWO MORE WEEKS AND PREMODERN WILL COLLAPSE YOU'LL SEE THEN YOU'LL ALL COME BACK TO STANDARD
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Look how they massacred Fae.
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>>97143420
Any game involves decisions. Perfect/optimal strategy for that game would be the series of decisions based on the current game state. A simple example would be tic tac toe, there's not a lot of game states and so it's relatively easy to create an algorithm that acts on perfect strategy, if they go first they can always win or draw. It's a solved game. For games like chess or Magic, there's a lot more possible game states and so there's a lot more possible decisions. Making an algorithm that plays perfectly is a lot harder, but people try to approach it through practice instead of computation. The first decision people make in Magic is actually deckbuilding, a deck of just 60 forests is not going to win as many games as a deck with 30 forests and 30 grizzly bears. As more experimentation happens with the format, people will find more and more optimal decks to submit.
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>>97143430
it's possible to hate two things, anon
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>"Liliana—" Another pause; another swallow. "There's something else I have to tell you. The storms wracked the Meditation Realm. They ripped through everything. And Jace lied. When he let you go on Ravnica, he let Ugin capture Bolas at the same time and allowed us all to think that he had died."
>"So?"
>"So Bolas escaped."
>Her teacup shattered as it hit the floor.
>"He used an Omenpath—we don't know whether his spark is intact, and even if it is, he doesn't know where you are. But you needed to know."
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>>97143204
At this point I'm thinking I won't do it because you asshole don't give a shit anyway. That said I mostly do it for my own recollection and understanding.
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>UB shills already in full damage control about Premodern
>They first tried with the "favela dwellers" only format meme, now that is in MTGO "meta is stale" meme
>When the actual supported format are a combination of UB degeneration or specific format block bullshit
Is truly laughable, anons.
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Anyway, episode 2. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/lorwyn-eclipsed-episode-2-shake-off-slumber
>The Scooby Gang V2 are running the fuck away from the darkness night monster they just woke up
>Sanar doesn't know any non-destructive spells to help out, Kirol (who we finally are told is a vampire which was weird to leave out), can see a BIT in the dark, but it's total darkness and they need SOME light, Abigale can't actually hear the screams but she can figure out shit's going south and tries to grab Tamira's arm to pull her to safety, but Tam jerks her arm free and stays behind for some reason
>The first three get out of the gate, and it's night/Shadowmoor now, but Tam's nowhere to be seen for a moment, then the creature comes out of the gate, before plodding off, and Tam comes out just behind it, looking like shit
>The gang recollect, and then decide to head for the nearest patch of what looks like sunlight that they can find, which is just a tiny patch that can only just hold Tam and Sanar
>They discuss how fucked up this day and night system seems to be, but basically go "Yeah different plane, different rules, has to be"
>They rush to a different, larger patch of light that can hold 'em all and just kind of collapse into a huddle of panic
>Tam points out, on a distant standing stone, a humanoid figure, waving for them to join her
>They decide they have nothing else to do, so they do, and the figure seems to wince every time they step into shadow on they way to her, but nothing actually happens to them
>Sanar notices that the patches of sunlight they're leaving are getting filled in by the darkness and tries to hurry everybody along
>They catch up to the woman, who just tells them to follow, and they do, to a forest with trees that have odd spirals on them, which makes Kirol mildly tense because the last time there were naturally occurring patterns like that all over Phyrexians were involved
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>>97143661
>The woman asks them who the hell they are and where they're from, Abigale answers with her telepathic hearing aid thing and the woman goes "stay the hell out of my head, you're not part of the thoughtweft"
>Abigale seems real upset by this, so the Kithkin lady (it's Brigid) apologises, and talks about how since the thing they call the Phyrexian Invasion (inneal ionnsaigh), people have been occasionally tumbling into the world like that
>Brigid explains that the beast they saw was Isilu, and it shouldn't really be awake right now, spreading Shadowmoor
>Tam asks if Shadowmoor's what they call nighttime, Brigid goes "...Oh, you're not from here, right, I'll explain that later" because they're close enough to Shadowmoor that she'd rather not change over
>Sanar asks why she's here at all, she says she heard about the 'strange light in the sky', figures that might be where the strangers are coming from, and lo and behold there they are
>She indicates the still-there Omenpath by way of explanation, before Shadowmoor creeps over it and it pops out of existence
>Abigale flies up to really confirm its disappearance, and Tam asks Brigid if there's anywhere they can go, as they seem to be stuck there for the time being
>Perspective shifts over now, to at first a scene description of Glen Elendra, the palace that was once Oona's, and now is Maralen's
>The faeries do NOT give a fuck about changing between Lorwyn and Shadowmoor, as ever, they're just getting on with life
>The faerie that led the Scooby Gang here arrives into Glen Elendra, turning back into its Lorwyn look as it steps into light, which it finds disappointing apparently, before joining the swarm of faeries all over
>It flies through the palace, to the queen's flowers, picking one for some reason, then onto the queen's chamber
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>>97143734
>It drops said flower onto the sleeping figure in the chamber, and we meet Maralen again, in the midst of a really bad dream, but waking up soon enough, noticing the flower, but the faerie's long gone
>Maralen gets out of bed, goes to get herself ready while dealing with a headache from ominous bad stuff, when a bunch of assisting faeries swarm in and all try to help at once, leading her to yell at them to stop already
>She points at one from the group, Camey, to tell her what's going on, she says they're her personal flock
>Maralen reminisces on some changes that have happened to both her and Glen Elendra. The place has become bigger to accommodate her, while she herself has changed to resemble a faerie more than she did prior, mostly gaining a faerie's carapace instead of normal skin
>Camey explains there SHOULD be 35 of them, but instead there's only 34, and one guy, Aherin, is missing, and not slacking, just gone
>Yet it seems like his bed's being used regardless, so they dunno what happened to him, or if somebody's replaced him or what
>Before Maralen can really respond to all that, the door swings open and in walks an elf, hey everybody it's Rhys, glamoured so that his horns look fixed apparently, because his Shadowmoor self has proper horns while his Lorwyn look... Does not
>Maralen's relieved to see a friend and moves to him, while we get an explanation of Rhys being so long-lived (he made a death pact with Maralen that until he needs to kill her should she go mad like Oona, he'll stay alive)
>Rhys asks if she's been having the bad dreams again, and she says yes, and also explains about the missing faerie, Rhys asks how she can even tell, she asks how he can't after living with them so long
>She instructs Camey to round up the others to go search for Aherin, and the flock all leaves
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>>97143787
>Maralen catches a 'third figure' in the mirror for a moment as she turns back to Rhys, which I guess is meant to be some lingering remnant of Oona, but it disappears soon enough
>Rhys asks her what's wrong, and she says she needs to go for a walk
>As she leaves, she hears ghostly laughter, but Rhys doesn't, and that makes her leave all the faster
>In the courtyard, Eirdu, the counterpart to Isilu, rests
>Maralen approaches Eirdu with familiarity, gives it a simple greeting, before moving on, and Eirdu itself turns to leave the courtyard, leaving Shadowmoor to creep back into the place
>The fuck-ass faerie (this is probably Oko doing some nonsense, right?) sees the Shadowmoor patches and dives in because it much prefers that look, apparently, and then follows after Maralen
>Shift over to Liliana back in Strixhaven, a sudden visitor approaching
>Hey everybody, it's Ajani
>Lili's as surprised as anybody to see him, and she quickly asks "Who died" and Ajani goes "Jace"
>That sends her for a bit of a loop, but she decides that, if anybody's not actually dead, it'd be Jace, so she just assumes he's actually fine, because if he was gone, that'd just be one more piece of her heart to throw away
>Lili asks Ajani what actually happened
>Ajani explains about Tarkir, how they found Jace in the Meditation Realm, how he seemed wrong and off, was casting a spell they didn't understand, and that the spell seemed to take him
>Lili goes "Oh, so he's not dead. There's no body. Jace Beleren wouldn't die without leaving a body."
>Ajani further explains that Jace lied about Bolas dying back in WAR, and further explains Bolas is now free, which shocks her enough to drop her teacup
>Before she can carry on that conversation, Dina barges in, saying four of her students are missing, Lili asks what happened, Dina explains it was probably an Omenpath
>Lili asks Dina to take them where they vanished, and off they go
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>>97143566
You know, what saddens me the most is that this author used to be decent. The Ixalan Jace / Vraska stuff was miles ahead of anything else they were doing but after that it has been a straight drop back down into the gutter. This story couldn't be any more ham-fisted if it tried. Brygid is the one that immediately finds the kids! Rhys shows up immediately instead of having a proper "Catch you fuckers at a bad time?" Blade / Whistler style entrance later in the plot where it would have more impact. Also, WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THESE RANDOM STRIXHAVEN KIDS?
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>>97143858
You realise the author has some constraints about what characters they can use, and Brigid is a perfectly valid good-hearted character to find the lost kids?
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>>97143858
JOTC writers are trying the old “anime school characters to relate to the average teen as self inserts” trope, since Hasbro execs don’t think anyone wants to be an all powerful planeswalker anymore around 4,000 years old
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>>97143870
Sorry, not making excuses for bad writing and first-grade contrivances.
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>>97143880
They missed a trick so fucking badly to bring Urza back as part of Teferi's time fuckery. I was hoping that Teferi having a brief meeting with Urza right as he activated the Silex would have given Urza just enough foresight to add an additional get out of jail free card to change his ultimate death but no, can't have an actual interesting character come back now can we?
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>>97143883
You'd complain if Brigid was just alive and didn't show up at all in the story. Rhys being there with Maralen makes sense, given what they've established is his current role, it'd be weirder if he WASN'T there when she was.
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>>97143903
The argument isn't that he is there, it is that he is there from the beginning and he didn't even do anything - he was just name dropped for pure "effect" instead of having him come in later and do something with more impact / meaning / surprise but too late for that now.
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>>97143898
>we should retcon the story to revive nostalgiabait characters
What are you, a comic book writer?
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>>97143858
>WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THESE RANDOM STRIXHAVEN KIDS
Nobody but wizard try time and time again to make people care about their OC characters but it never works. Just in the last few years you had Loot and Kellan but nearly everybody has already forgotten them.
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>>97143386
Black and white are not symmetrical, the strategies differ, and the win/loss reflects that fact.
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>>97143566
Now Nicol Bolas can read in peace. He will make an appearance in Strixhaven as the librarian
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>>97143163
>there's a nonbinary character
>a fucking magical hearing aid
At least out of the closet was funny
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Fucking Strixhaven man, the first UB lite set of all time and they have to use this to taint Lorwyn is not enough make the whole plane homosexual...
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>>97144094
What's the issue with a magic hearing aid?
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>>97143970
Honestly Kellan could have had potential, but try dropped the ball with him so hard.
>Eldraine 2 barely has an in-universe story
>Thunder Junction has character bloat and second attempted mascot
I think this stems from WotC not knowing how to recover from doing blocks. Back when it was three, you had a very basic structure going on. Introduction/problem, "meat," resolution. Hot take, but I personally didn't like that as much because it had a lot of dead air with the third. The two act structure was messy, but it at least it was understandable. Setup/Payoff. Basic storytelling.
One act structure begins, and we're left with the worst of both. Wizards tried to cram their immediate stories into one act, resolving the conflict as soon as it's started, or they make it all setup for future sets, which doesn't work when the game is flooded with UB distractions and we're never actually allowed to feel what these overarching plots are doing to the characters besides just giving them more hobbies. They dropped the ball so hard on the Omenpath change Are you seriously telling me that most of the planes' denizens just accepted the would-be incomprehensible fact that there are basically multidimensional aliens out there that have access to your world, and one of the first things we see them doing together is just host a fucking race? that Loot "mapping" them means absolutely nothing... not to mention the stupid implications EoE adds to that.
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>https://www.twitch.tv/magic

Marvel previews about to begin.
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>>97144107
Kellan (barely) gets a pass because he actually grew the fuck up and bagged a big titty goth vampire GF in the process but he was god-awful at all points before the every end of the OTJ story.
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>>97144104
It's a lame Quill house whatever hearing aid a Phyrexian one would be the superior product.
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>>97144104
>setting where telepathy can be magically taught
>hearing aid (solely to project their voice via telepathy, note that it does nothing to assist in them hearing anything because that would be ableist)
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>>97144104
It's weird that you would need to spend money on a medical device when you could pay someone to heal your ailments with magic. Does Urza need glasses to help him read paper or read other's thoughts.
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>>97144177
ok that's funny
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>>97144171
Glad to see they spent all of two minutes designing that set logo.
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>>97144198
thank god for omenpaths because that marvel set symbol is the worst one I have ever seen
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Slop is served! Here piggy piggy piggy!
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>>97144165
>>97144171
Terriblely pushed custom garbage. Back to the custom card general.
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>>97144260
....a bunch of pushed shit and then this card which is straight out of the Ice Age to Invasion era of design? What the hell?
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>>97144223
JOTC really loves MarySue nigglets in media
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>>97144270
>two set symbols
Ok, the front has now fallen off.
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>>97144171
>>97144177
The fact that this has vigilance renders anything about the "drawback" irrelevant. At WORST, you use it to consistently tank the 5/5, then hit the opponent for 5 in the air with a four drop because the Void token will normally always be tapped when this attacks.
Who designed this?
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EVERY NEW UB SLOP WE STRAY FURTHER FROM GOD´S LIGHT
WHO THE HELL IS THIS TRASH FOR? WHO ASKED FOR THIS?
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>>97144235
Marit Lage > Galactus confirmed.
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>>97144307
(It is designed for games where you have more than one opponent.)
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>>97144314
If that's the case, then why not just throw it in one of the commander decks?
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>>97144307
I don't think it will be playable, even as pushed as it is.
If it gets exiled or pacified you basically lost the game.
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>>97144235
Should've been something that starts out small but gets bigger by destroying lands.
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>>97144200
>modified exhaust
Aetherdrift is still relatively new; so why visit that mechanic when it's barely been out?
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>>97144265
The abilities will probably match up with each member of the F4, white is >>97144270
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>>97144340
>Doesn't reference Doomsday in anyway.
Lame design.
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>>97144350
That much is clear, but a "Kenrith" this is not.
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>>97144355
If they don’t reprint Doom Blade the theme is a failure
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>>97144370
Will probably be part of the extra sheet.
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>>97144340
Let me guess, Plan is Blood, only you draw first.
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>>97144367
>>97144386
Looks like I was wrong
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>>97144386
No, just more enchantment subtypes...
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Holy shit, it's spoiler season AGAIN? Also

> must include at least four colors in rules text so creatures can be used in Commander

This game is cooked.
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>>97144334
Or bounced and if you play it again, bounced again.
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>>97144367
>a new enchantment subtype for quest type cards
I'm ok with this
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>>97144438
Hulk is actual unplayable trash, who would have guessed...
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can't wait for the new command tower and sol ring versions in the secret lair for this set
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>>97144406
Do you know how many sets are slated for release in 2026, I wonder?
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>>97144438
The backside of this can be easily cast with Jace Reawakened or Shiko.
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>>97144472
free etali
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>>97144472
>Get Etali out for free; or any big creature for free
Surely nothing will go wrong
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>5 more years of UB
5 more years of UB
>5 more years of UB
5 more years of UB
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>>97144472
Was gonna say that this will break something, but then I remembered that Smugglers Surprise is in the Format which is a better version of this and that one is barely getting played.
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>>97144488
anon i...
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>>97144148
The hearing aid explicitly does aid her in hearing via telepathy. It just only translates words.
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>>97144509
yay more unreadable cards
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>>97144507
Don't show these guys sneak attack lol
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>>97144507
>>97144503
Technically, this gets your commander out through commander taxes.
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>>97144533
Commander tax is an additional cost, thus you will still have to pay it.
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>>97144507
I'm completely aware of that, but at least that is a one-and-done; rather than having a blinkable permanent that can shit out creatures
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>>97144462
I haven't been on this general in a while and I didn't see the 2026 schedule yet. I just wanted to read news on Lorwyn. Instead we get more Marvel slop. The wors part is, there is a WHOLE OTHER UNIVERSE BEYOND set scheduled between Lorwyn and the Marvel.
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>>97144557
>The wors part is, there is a WHOLE OTHER UNIVERSE BEYOND set scheduled between Lorwyn and the Marvel.
That's the turtles.
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>>97144554
It has the advantage of being instant-speed and also being any creature; you can't cheat out Blightsteel or Emrakul with this.
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>>97144406
It's first look, because they always do this, and 2026 is absurdly stuffed full.
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>>97144557
Magic has become the equivalent of a retarded 8 year old kid shouting imaginary improv spells with his favorite media characters. Western Fantasy is dead and JOTC killed it.
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>>97144438
>Gamma is a type
I mean, I guess it makes sense, they can't use Mutant because that's just for Marvel's Mutants, but it feels clunky. Wonder what they Omenpaths that one into.
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>>97144492
>Attuma
Well glad to see there's at least one literal who so far. Gives me hope for deeper cuts.
Give me Darkhawk, Mark.
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>>97144598
Could just be a character from one of the higher tech planes.
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>>97144557
I really don't get showing off spoilers for a set half a month away, and one of them being completely unknown cards-wise (Strixhaven)
>>97144574
Might want to re-read that
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>>97144612
I think they'd change it, because Symbiote is at least a more universal term, "Gamma" as a creature type doesn't really work outside Marvel.
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They did the thing, yep.
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My god I hate this set.
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>>97144270
>>97144282
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>>97144315
These 4 have a different set symbol. Wasn't listening to the stream so idk. Still Banned??
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Seems understandable they'd do multiple arts for this one.
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>>97144646
I recognized this meme and clapped.
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>>97144665
They're the face commanders of one of the precons (there's 4, one's for the FF).
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>>97144665
Look at the set name, it's MSC. It's the commander stuff.
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The slop never stops.
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Do people still know Monica? I feel like she's eternally just kind of "Oh yeah she exists".
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I will say the source material stuff for Marvel generally looks a lot better than the ATLA and FF stuff. Still wish they had, like... Textboxes.
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>>97144695
>black woman
Nobody here knows her
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>>97144223
You just know.
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Okay that's pretty good.
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>>97144714
Would've been good if they had the text in the entirely black bottom portion instead of getting mixed together with the art.
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>>97144695
She's been literal who tier for decades now especially because no one watched the newest Captain Marvel movie
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>>97144732
It doesn't help that she seems to be eternally just sort of "isn't Carol or Phyla-Vell" in terms of that archetype of character.
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>>97144492
No bulge, it must be cold in the ocean
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i just can't with this anymore anons... we have years and years of this, pointless memes, ridiculous cards, clear cummander focus design... what we do? how we get out of this loop?
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If only they shared this much when it came to Lorwyn
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>>97144624
I do? World War Hulk is a Saga, Dramatic Entrance is an instant. You can go Dramatic Entrance on the opponent's endstep, drop an Emrakul, swing with Annihilator 6 15/15 with flying on their turn. World War Hulk is limited to red and green and it's sorcery speed.
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>>97144340
>>97144367
Even though I don't give a shit about this slop, I do find it kinda cool how they worked plans into a form of plot armor for the villains that goes away once they accomplish their goal. Would be interesting to see them used this way in-universe.
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>>97144762
They tend to show more for UB stuff because half the point of UB is advertising to wider audiences so showing more cards of their favourite characters or whatever does that. I'm not a huge fan of the disparity, but it's just marketing.
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Hey everybody it's Kang.
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>>97144861
We wuz?
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Why are they showing spoilers for a set half a year away lol?
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>>97144768
Dramatic entrance is limited to green creatures tardnon maybe stop posting for a little while.
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>>97144920
so they can gauge reaction to see how hard they have to work on other UB
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>>97144920
Because they know how bad TMNT will be.
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>>97144920
First looks always exist this early-ish. They're just more awkwardly paced now because of the absurd number of sets.
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>>97144260
What's the point of the alien creature type if they're just going to give aliens race specific types?
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>>97144920
because I want to die
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>>97145008
Same reason Beast exists. For one-offs.
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>>97144387
Isn't this just Suicide Squad?
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>>97145036
Yeah, both comics companies did that sort of thing, though Thunderbolts was "this is a secret plot by a villain" instead of Suicide Squad being "Amanda Waller is really bad at her job".
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>>97145018
That's pretty easy to achieve, anon.
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>>97143163
>fall
no, we're in on the joke
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So judging by the comments made on the Weekly MTG that showed off these cards, we know Ghost Rider ISN'T in this set, but is likely in a future set. However, he doesn't fit X-Men, and wouldn't be in a Cosmic set (Cosmic Ghost Rider might be but that's a different guy), so maybe there's a more broad "Supernatural Marvel" set and... Maybe not a Cosmic one at all.
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>>97145205
Or there will be five total sets for all we know, and the last one will have the final Infinity Stone and the Gauntlet or whatever.
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>>97145205
marvel vs innistrad is the last set
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>>97145221
Please stop talking.
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>>97143858
The first draft of the story was written entirely in iambic pentameter. Then, during revisions, a few character names were changed in ways that didn’t fit the meter, and everything fell apart.
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>>97145241
we are going to get giga gay crossover content, it's inevitable
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>>97144347
I think the set was designed before exhaust existed.
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whats your opinion on marvel anons? are we getting good ub sets finally?
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>>97145299
That's entirely possible since FF was in development for years, but it just seems like odd timing
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>>97144200
This is the strongest card and I can see it getting banned. A 0 mana 1/1 in red will be played a lot even if it's not broken.
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>>97145324
avatar and FF are both good standard sets
Marvel looks marginally better than spider slop which puts it on the same level as aethershit
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>>97144260
This might be the 5 color villain for c*mmander Mark teased.
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>>97144200
Cool, they gave memnite haste except it costs 1 mana sometimes (Most of the time).
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>>97144270
>>97144282
More Ink-Treaded legends.
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Not even what I intended but I just accidentally cast turn 1 stormchaser talent + boomerang basics in standard
not turn 1 talent turn 2 boomerang + talent
I cast both on turn 1

>leyline of transformation + mox jasper
meant to power out my rottenmouth viper but lmao
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>>97144411
The minimum is 3 with this.
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>>97145542
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>>97141758
Premodern is unplayable due to combofags and rampant overpowered tutors.
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>>97144223
This is actually the single logical conclusion of the entire warped game balance we're in
Ignore the rest of the set and recent releases. This is the single worst offender we've ever seen for power level skew

With no enabling cost beyond "play an artifact each turn" which can literally just be playing a land, or make a clue token, and it works every turn, this becomes:

>3 mana for a 6/6 trample that draws up to TWO extra cards per turn
but it costs 3 mana, has no immediate impact, and dies to shock

and its printed into a format where you lose the game if you aren't either winning on turn 3-4 or stopping the opponent from winning on turn 3-4. It could be an 15/2 trample for all it matters. It won't kill the opponent in one swing and even if it vomits the most disgusting amount of value imaginable, an extra card on each turn including opponents, its still just going to either not impact the board enough to win the game on the spot or its too slow to matter and a dead topdeck

Its utterly impossible to go back to fair magic where you trade resources and build a board and answer each others threats when shit like this exists. This makes Uro look fair and balanced.
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>>97144920
It to gauge interest of gaming stores. The previous determine how much stock they need to preorder.
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>>97145601
lol
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>>97145628
how does ghost draw you 2 extra cards per turn?
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>>97145628
This card isn't good and it also isn't in one of the most broken color pairs ever (Simic)
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>>97145634
How does moon girl?
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>>97144472
>can't actually put Hulk out because it's the backside of Banner
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>>97145628
Geist would probably see play in std due to hexproof being bullshit.
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>>97145651
Play an artifact land on your own turn, draw a card, attack for 6, pass
Investigate or flash in an artifact or otherwise make an artifact on opponents turn, draw a card
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>>97145661
Look at hulk again, you can. It's a MDFC, the back side has a mana cost, so you can cast it.
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>>97145666
with the amount of nowhere to runs & momentum breakers & sweepers?
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>>97145674
>having to spend a card to draw a card each time
lol, can't even beat decades old tech
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>>97145661
I think you technically can do to how it's worded.
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>>97145661
You actually can, Hulk has a mana cost.
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>>97144438
ONE JOB, WOTC!
ONE JOB!
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>>97145661
Wrong. Look at the top right of Hulk.
Semi related but also keep in mind the rules revision to MDFC cards with MVs on both sides.
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>>97145689
If all you did was play an artifact land each turn this is a tireless tracker upgraded to a 6/6 and giving you 2 free mana to crack your clue each turn
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>>97145649
This was back when simic was complete shit, newfriend. Saint traft won multiple grand prix.
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>>97145324
All ub sets are bad due to how the need for legend spam warps the design.
Spiderman was extra bad because the set had extra bad design on top of that.
This looks more in line with ff/avatar.

Also, this will be much worse on Arena where you will have Scrimblo Bimblo the random guy instead of all the named stuff. Already experienced it with Spiderman.
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>>97145709
Adolf Hitler card when?
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>>97145709
not Magic The Gathering
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>>97145718
We're talking about right now, dumbass. Simic has been broken as fuck for almost a decade.
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>>97145711
I hope you remember this post in a few months from now, and that you get the chance to try out your idea.
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>>97145734
What fucking meme simic artifacts deck are people winning with?
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>>97145709
It's funny, they're gonna print even stronger red cards to deal with this
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>>97145737
except I stated right up front: this card won't be playable

In fact I'd go a step further. Uro would be unplayable in standard right now. Oko would also be unplayable in standard right now
Either you win the game on turn 3-4 or you lock the game up by turn 3-4 and flood so much interaction nobody can land a hit with a single threat.
We're so warped by power level push that obscenely ridiculous value engines like this won't be playable because you're just paying 3 mana to eat a torch the tower / floodmaw / boomerang / firebending lesson.

Wizards could print a 3 mana card that says "At the beginning of your upkeep, conjure a black lotus & ancestral recall into your hand" and it wouldn't be usable
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>>97145727
correct. this is magic 2
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>Lorwyn "lore dump" but the spoilered cards are Marvel
Kino of the highest order
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>>97145811
It was the same thing with EOE.
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I would pay actual money to erase this UB trash from Magic.
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>>97145763
No, it's much simpler than that. It won't be playable because it's not a good card. Uro and Oko would still be completely busted. You're just shit at evaluating cards. Engines that are strong are usually strong because they're hard to deal with. Dying to shock is exactly the reason it's a shit card. Something like annex is strong because it's harder to remove plus it can provide a separate body that also has to be removed, along with life drain. This is all despite the fact it's way slower than moon girl would be, or even other engines. The resilience is the important part, see Uro (permanent graveyard recursion) and Oko (+2 value uptick and +1 uptick with interaction on a 3 cmc walker).
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https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/contraption-league-2025-12-0910076
3 Enchantress
3 Moneyball Black
2 Stiflenought
Pit Rack
Landstill
Stasis

https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/contraption-league-2025-12-0810076
Moneyball Black
Stasis
Stiflenought
Terraoath

I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a single Sligh or Goblins trophy yet, though I did see it mentioned that there's no Crusade replacement yet - although MTGO's staff expressed disappointment at that and implied they would try and find a workaround - and that some premodern cards are bugged and need fixing. What do you think about the emerging online meta?
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>>97145839
Uro and Oko are slow durdly cards that would just do nothing in this format. They don't make threats or answer the actual threats, and no turning a 1/1 prowess otter into a 3/3 elk isn't an answer.
In any reasonable and balanced format a 3 mana card that hits for 6 and draws 1-2 extra cards per turn would be such an insane value engine it warps the game by FORCING everyone to have an answer to it immediately
The difference is we're in a meta where everyone already has those answers or does their own broken aggro/combo, because there's shit for cheaper that actually wins the game in 1 hit at 2-3 mana.
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>>97144260
nobody is going to talk about the color order all over the place?
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>>97145915
lower cost to higher cost is more important than wubrg order
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Bruce Banner can draw for 2 every turn which is the cheapest among all the U creatures so far, tied with MH3's Tamiyo. Of course Tamiyo is a much better creature and has a much better flip but ... this is still some insane power level shit.
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>>97144411
Wait can I cast more than 3 exiled cards as long as I have enough mana to cast them?
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>>97145946
no
>Choose up to three
>You may cast them (without paying their mana cost)
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>>97145940
If people just used tamiyo to make clue tokens and draw cards she'd be a really mediocre / bad card, and 0/3 flying is so much better than 1/1
in general every card should be evaluated on how much it provides with as little mana invested as possible
1 mana for a planeswalker is stupid
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>>97145972
Then why do I need to copy all the exiled cards?
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>>97145991
I specifically said Tamiyo was a better card, but we're comparing a standard set to MH3 power level.
Recurring draws on a 1 drop were always to 3-4 cmc abilities. 2 is very pushed.
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>>97145902
>They don't make threats or answer the actual threats
ok anon, believe what you want
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>>97145874
>What do you think about the emerging online meta?
Somewhat expected, I think Sligh and Goblins are budget decks for chumps like me, if I had infinite resources, I would be playing Stiflenought or Oath for sure
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>>97146006
It's so that you have options instead of just flooding the board with creatures
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>>97144411
Feels like Infamous Cruelclaw with more steps involved
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I've given serious consideration to starting Yugioh despite everyone saying it's basically on fire right now.
No way it's worse than mtg, right?
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>>97146012
If you could goldfish with only uro or oko as your win con, what's the fastest you can win a game
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made a pre-modern, black boarder only, low power level Battle Box. This is what kino looks like.
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>>97146032
learning ygo from nothing is the hardest part of playing ygo
if you think you can do that, then I highly recommend it
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>>97146043
t1 llanowar elves
t2 oko, make a food
t3 make an elk, hit 17
t4 food hit 14
t5 elk hit 8
t6 food hit 2
t7 hit lethal
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>>97146047
Nice! What decks did you make besides Goblins?
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>>97144512
So they would be completely shunned by any deaf or disabled groups by their choice?

Sounds like the proper research wasn't done when trying to pander to this particular demographic. This is a situation where they can't have their cake and eat it too, and they are clearly not aware how this will be perceived.
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>>97144920
demoralization tactic
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>>97144492
why flying?
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>>97144533
>from your hand
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>>97144492
>attack a player
They really are planning to phase out Planeswalker. Don't even want to mention it on card text.
UW is gone in 2027 baby.
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>>97146074
I think you might have misunderstood me. I meant that if I exile more than 4 cards I could cast the non-free copies if I had enough mana. I thought it was worded similarly to the Zethi ruling meaning copies could only be cast using mana. I though Baron's text implicitly implied all copies could be cast with 3 being abled to be cast for free not you can only cast 3 of the copies and they must be free.
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>>97146101
Why do you think they're pandering to the deaf demographic and not the hearing aid demographic?
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>>97146047
Since you are using sleeves, you can use a printing service to print off quality images to proxy other decks to play against.
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>>97146141
that card looks incredibly busted
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>>97146168
You have to pay mana to cast each copy so exiling a five mana spell will cost five mana.
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>>97146188
huh, well that sucks nvm
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>>97146168
Yeah, but also no
You pay a bunch of mana when you play zethi, then you pay more mana to play copied spells
And you can only cast the spells when Zethi attacks, i.e. during combat on your turn, which severely limits the number of spells you want to use with it

it's a perfectly acceptable way to set up an infinite turns loop far from the best
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>>97146032
Depends if you like the gameplay styles or not. The initial learning curve is a bit much but if you come from a background of card games, especially MTG, then it's not terrible. Biggest mechanical changes you'll have to get used to are how battles work and the chain(stack) being linear and locked in once you stop adding things to it.
The best elevator pitch in Magic terms I can give you is that the major mechanic of the overall game is that it's a few different flavors of Meld and that instead of drawing being important you instead tutor for archetype specific cards to help turbo into those Melds.
The other piece of advice I will give you is that effects are broken down into [condition : cost ; effect], knowing this seems to help more people parse the text dense cards.

There's a thread here on /tg/ and you can ask questions or other starting advice like deck recs.
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>>97146047
hon hon hon
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Hello fellow Magic, enjoyers I just want you to know that UB sets until 2030 are already decided so you have at least 5 more years of exciting outside Magic franchises to enjoy!
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>>97146278
I am actively looking for another card game to play
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>>97146006
so they are removed from your graveyard
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>>97144200
next we get this but it gets pulled out of the deck for free
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>>97146297
Try Sorcery. You can play Magic The Gathering in Sorcery.
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>>97146343
I'll TTS it
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>>97144200
After 3 Marvel sets we will have enough cards that start on the battlefield turn 1 to swing in for lethal before the other player can put down their first land.
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I am not emotionally ready to digest Marvel Magic cards and do any sort of card assessment on them. I just can't, fuck Marvel, fuck superheros.

Am I supposed to be assessing these for 60-card formats? Are those even a thing anymore?
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>>97146355
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>>97144411
HIS time has come
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>>97146352
but anon, by hasters also function as blockers?
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>>97146355
>Am I supposed to be assessing these for 60-card formats?
If you want to remain competitive? Yes, absolutely just look at Avatar, pushed set just for the sake of people buying the last UB garbage. You know play UB shit like Gran-Gran or you do shit.
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>>97146355
You don't have to worry, there isn't a single format except pauper and premodern that are being played right now.
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>>97146278
Disney Princess UB IS HAPPENING
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They say even in Nebraska ... the piggies get tired sometimes.
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Is Standard format still relevant, just by merit of Magic Arena existing? Or is it fair to saw that Brawl is the 'default' format for Magic Arena these days?
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>>97146504
1. arena standard is only as relevant as arena is
2. standard is still the most played format in the client by a long mile
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>>97144608
Attuma has appeared in quite a few comics, TV shows, and games, and was Namor's main henchman in the second Black Panther movie, so he isn't that much a literally who.
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>>97146486
>that edit 2
lol redditors
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>>97146398
Two things that suck about Avatar:
The setting - or rather, what it's inspired by; Xianxia - is fascinating and underexplored by (western) game developers. The closest things we have are the Portal block and Tarkir, although the latter is more Mongolian or central Asian than east Asian.
There are quite a few cards that are mechanically interesting, despite the Legendary spam. The earthbend mechanic is very appealing to me because I like lands related strategies in legacy and cards like the 4cmc Toph, Badgermole Cub, Ba sing se etc are all feasibly relevant in various Gx legacy decks when you consider things like GSZ, Crop Rotation, Wasteland etc. Moreover, this mechanic could easily exist on lore friendly cards. Classical alchemy and manipulation of elements is something I adore and have for a long time, but again, it's underexplored by developers.

>>97146486
I can't find that guy's post but I largely agree with him, apart from
>I'm not going to tell anyone how to enjoy the game
Nosewater's insistence that if you don't like a set you can just choose to not engage with it turns a blind eye to the fact that when you go to play FNM, you're expected to deal with what your opponent is running. I recently argued with a zoomer about the mishmash of special treatments cards get, resulting in each deck looking like a messy, incoherent wardrobe, and his response was to say that your opponent never sees your entire deck so it doesn't matter if it doesn't match. I would love to play F&B but despite living its country of origin there are barely any events on the weekend, and I can't play on weeknights.

I swear people just willingly bury their heads in the sand, or will defend WotC's poor decisions tooth and nail just to have the satisfaction of being on the 'winning' side.
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>>97144646
How come we didn't get The Wall then?
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>>97144509
Why did they go with this cover instead of the one of him punching Hitler?
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>>97146278
I would consoom an adventure time UB then make a Jake the human Commander deck. Don’t fucking @ me /mtg/ I do what I want I am being for real
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>>97146504
standard is relevant because arena is relevant and standard arena is by far the #1 played format for magic the gathering unless you count prison commander but there's no statistics on it

face it, "Kavaero, Mind-Bitten" has seen more play than every spiderman card combined
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>>97146486
did this get nuked? I can't find it anywhere
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>>97146812
Because WotC obviously doesn't want to have Adolf Hitler on an official Magic card, even if he's being punched.
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>>97146827
>magictcg sub
of course it did why bother asking
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I cast moon girl, play an artifact land, draw a card, pass
I cast pawpatch formation at the beginning of your upkeep, make a food, draw two cards
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>>97146705
>>97146827
>voice negative opinion
>post instantly nuked
kwabooty
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>>97146987
Who'd have thought that a 1UG card would be broken.
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If I get a nickel every time JotC make a smart Simiclet I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's curious it happened twice.
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are you all ready for Narnia UB?
the fact Bloomburrow did well means it's all but inevitable
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Just heard the news. I'm so sorry Magicbros...
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>>97147056
>Christian imagery
they wont allow it
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NETFLIX ANNOUNCES BUYOUT OF HASBRO
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>>97147056
That would still be fantasy themed, better than any of the capeshit or star trek.
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>>97147069
Rise up brothers we will take it all back one day. Vote conservative across the world. We will stop the brown tide of filth flooding our countries.
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Make no mistake, its his world, you just live in it
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>>97147138
this but unironically
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>>97147138
>Vote
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honest question how could mtg theoretically actually sink lower
what would it take

Draft Kings tie-in?
Set based on the israeli-gaza conflict?
Plane named Transholme?
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>>97147159
Do you think sleepy joe likes Yinglets?
>>97147206
Not in any way I can imagine. The game is already faggy EDH slop. That's like asking what turd smells worst.
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>>97146817
>Billy, Lich Husk
They’ve already done so much Nickelodeon stuff and P. Ward is a big WotC fan. It’ll definitely happen, but it’ll have PB/Marceline shipping
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The streamers are being paid to silence justice. The sanctity of the 'World Championship' must be preserved.
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>>97146827
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1pih3e9/removed_by_moderator/
Yes
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>>97147270
How else will you introduce the mouth breathing casual commander audience to the biggest platform for MtG?
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>>97144667
It's a shame they didn't include the original text from that Hulk cover:
>Beneath one hundred and fifty billion tons stands the Hulk...and he's not happy!
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WE HAVENT EVEN GOT FULL LOREWYNN SPOILER YET WHY ARE THEY PREVIEWING MARVEL SHIT NOONE ASKED FOR
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is this a bad time to get into magic, i was looking to get into another card game, coming from only yugioh. i also read arena is pretty bad.
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>>97147406
No explanation given.
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>>97147424
Even worse, there's actually a set released before Marvel, Secrets of Strixhaven, that hasn't gotten a single card revealed.
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>>97147424
Previously card games stores would be given secret previews so they could determine how much cards to preorder. Often times they would just leak the cards so Wotc decided to cut the middleman just preview the cards to the public as well.
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>>97147406
That's so pathetic lmao
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>>97147430
if you know how to play ygo properly, learning mtg will be super easy, arena is bad because the meta is always bad, it's gonna take a while before you face meta decks, you can just pick the game up to learn the basics
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>>97147432
Tmnt has had several cards spoiled
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>>97147430
Yeah come back in 2027 and see where things are at
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>>97147488
ok cool i just like complicated games and magic is usually the one people recommend the most for that
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>>97147447
But then why haven't we gotten Strixhaven previews?
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>>97144295
>>97144282
>>97144270
just put every mana color simbol on them for no reason
OI OI PIGGIES SLOP IS HERE
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>another parasitic set that sees no synergy with out of set cards
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>>97147535
Because at the end of the day, UB sets will always have more hype than in-universe sets.
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>>97147206
>set based on the Gaza conflict
JOTC would make the Palestine cards mono white just to shit on both the color and the people at the same time.
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>>97147535
Because Universe Beyond previews have to be in accordance with the IP holder and people previously complained about getting too many previews at the same time so they spread them out more evenly. Strixhaven was an okay sacrifice since we still have 2 sets between them.
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>>97147206
McDonalds Secret Lair
Tie in with something that bombs horrifically before the set releases like Concord
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>>97147206
They will need to adopt Cobson's miner adventure first
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>>97147206
This is already pretty low but lower? Mmmm maybe go full retardation with something like Fast Food UB or My Little Pony UB. That would reach the critical point i think even the drones would start complaining
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>all spoiler cards are unplayable garbage
devilish wotcs
devilish
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>>97147812
It will be like Avatar where all the highlights are dogshits and the cards that run over the meta are some random ass animals and granny.
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>>97147811
>fast food ub
anon… I…
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>>97147206
vtubers
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AAAAAARGH MARO HELP US THE PIGGIES ARE REVOLTING
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>>97147866
Ayyy LMAOOOO
Shitty company takes horrible infuriating decision and then has to take full damage control position to avoid being drowned in the rage they themselves unleashed.

Is like poetic justice LOL, nice job MaRo-kun, you faggot.
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>>97147866
Oh no the consequences of my own actions. Quick reddit "mods" ban them all!
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>>97144307
4 mana 5/5 near unblockable and resilience to removal was never quite attractive, and much less so nowadays since even in standard there are so many bounces/stuns. This one has 2 massive downsides (the token, and more importantly, it's legendary) so it won't see play.
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how you guys think maro will react now that "pre fire" format is gaining popularity
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Oh so this is gonna be this set's Cruel Tutor
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>>97147971
WHY IS THE TEXT SO HIGH
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>>97147971
Which one is worse?
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>>97147992
Cruel Tutor is bad in a special way. It's so bad it's kinda become iconic. Horn of Greed is just cringe; they took some shitty forgettable reddit meme and made a card of it. They're bad in different ways
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>>97147206
Look man you can buy magic cards inside a teenage mutant ninja turtles action figure at Target while getting a code for Arena on your Hot Pockets, so you can play standard where Darth Vader is being double blocked by Moon Girl and the Dinosaur Devil and Princess Twilight Sparkle

This cannot get any worse.
Not within reasonable human imagination
only within true shitposting limits like "Drinking a mountain dew lets you untap a creature once per game"
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>>97147812
This isn't an awful commander
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>>97147992
Definitely tutor. There could have been any other scene, and it'd be better than that. At least you can see the horn in the Marvel one.
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>>97148015
>>97148015
>>97148015
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>>97147206
It's not about what they can do to make things worse, but what they'll stop doing: Universes Within

Hasbro is gonna see how much fucking money their Universes Beyond sets are making, and they're going to wonder why bother even making these dumb wizard sets when they can just make a set about nostalgic IP #235436823
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>>97147786
I'm so glad this is a shitpost and not real
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>>97146101
She communicates with sign language, which the hearing aid then projects telepathically as words.
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>>97141758
Based department? we are going home...
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>>97142230
Based UB despiser
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>>97142230
There were no S tier sets this year, EoE is b
tarkir is c
aetherdrift is c
UB is Ub tier



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