Doom Edition >Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97141602>TQWhat keeps you interested in MTG at this point?
MARO HELP US THE PIGGIES ARE REVOLTING
Thread QuestionThe fact that I play only Pioneer on Arena fully f2p.
Two friends of mine randomly started playing Magic a couple months ago. They have no knowledge of formats, metagames, lore, and they have no interest at all in any UB stuff. We play kitchet table casual together (with the worst decks you've ever seen), and casual commander whenever we want to play 3-player games.This is the entire thing that keeps me interested in Magic these days. It's a lot of fun playing with people who aren't jaded about the game and have no idea how bad things are.
>>97148015>What keeps you interested in MTG at this point?My friends still wanting to play it
>TQi play pauper with friendssometimes commander but almost newest card you see will be something from ixalan at most, we just stop stopped cooonsuming
Sex.
I still play Pioneer and i don’t have to see “almost” any shitty horrible UB card.But being 100% honest i lose interest with every new set, im seeing this marvel cards and damn this is actually horribleIs like Cummander is eating the rest of formats completely and now everything is just Cummander but constructed.
>>97148015>TQI do matches with my friends, even if some of their decks annoy me; but it's a decent way to pass the time
>>97148066
>>97148100
>>97148015>TQMy own cubes where I can put WHATEVER I WANT IN INSTEAD OF GAY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!
>>97148015>TQHistoric, Modern, and Brawl are the formats I'm interested in currently
oof
>>97148015>TQThe constant validation that Gavin Verhey is a lying sack of shekels when it comes to his lies about White.
>>97148015This is the future of the game.You tell me if this game has something interesting in the upcoming future.
>>97148163Damn, that card is really gay.
>>97148239Stop fucking identifying with and building your whole identity around a mana color.
>>97148033They can't stop us all. RISE UP BROTHERS! ALL YOU HAVE TO LOSE ARE YOUR CHAINS!
>>97148250Yeah Lorwyn is looking surprisingly not-AIDS so far. I was expecting them to omenpath dozens of human cards in, but maybe Bloomburrow has finally convinced them that not every set needs "representation."
>>97148262Premodern gods won in the end…
>>97148250
>>97148015Can't believe we got a DOOM collab after the man died years agohttps://youtu.be/EfzJRwdyGe4
>>97148295He died at the end of Episode 1, but he got better after fighting his way out of Hell.
>>97148262I can't read that language.
>>97148302Once you start playing premodern, you will
>>97148262that card hurts my feelings anon, you can’t play that against me.
>>97148077Coomander fucked a lot of mechanics and bloated sets with garbage legendaries, but this shit is Habro chasing the Pokemon bubble. At best they "theorycraft" because no one can actually afford to keep up with this Fortnite shit at this pace.
>>97148250Honor will be restored, soon...
>>97148265Lorwyn had explicit (fantastic) racism. There's no chance they didn't change them to the White Guilt-leaf.
>>97148356Planeswalker's Guide makes it pretty clear that the Lorwyn elves are still very much racist, they just mask it because they're no longer the overbearingly dominant power of the world. SOME might have gotten better but there's always exceptions (Rhys for example), most are still racist and just waiting for society to collapse so THEIR ideology can rise from the ashes.
>>97148356I am honestly at the point where I'm fine with that and the inevitable negro kithkin as long as I see zero humans or Wakandaslop.
>>97148370There's no humans we know of apart from potentially Liliana visiting the place (they might have the whole Lorwyn 5 show up or at least be referenced), but that's Planeswalkers, so.
>>97148370>inevitable negro kithkinHell is a bottomless pit this is only the beginning
>>97148380I will, grudgingly, tolerate the original five nuwalkers, simply because their cards technically first appeared in the original Lorwyn. I won't be happy with it (and didn't Ajani die?) but I'll live with it as long as Lorwyn hasn't, overall, been Culturally Enriched.
>>97148398>didn't Ajani die?yeah but he got better (again)
>>97148423Why can't my nigga Venser get better?
>>97148436Venser was just a generic white male. And this spot is taken by Jace.
>>97148015>TQi still find modern and draft fun enough to play at fnm once a week meme formats premodern, old school and can highlander are fun as well if you can actually find anyone to play them with
>>97148436It's so weird that Venser explicitly existed to ease us into the concept of nuwalkers, was generally well received, and then when the time came to use that good will they just cast him aside, replaced him with Jace and killed him for basically no reason I can determine. Jace looked cooler, I guess, but there's no reason you couldn't give Venser a cool cloak...
>>97148259Make me, shekelstein. The day these noses actually make powerful standard white cards is the day I stop. But given it’s been over a decade and I see no progress to contradict Gavin’s lies, I’m gonna keep on going especially since nobody else in the world cares about White.
The time is nigh.Come back to Premodern, /tg/.Come back home.
>>97148871You already posted in this thread >>97148262
>>97148871how about a format where crusade is actually viable
>>97148398No, Ajani never died. He got compleated but got better.
So that Omens of Chaos book had its back cover revealed, and the artist of said cover posted the image without the blurb and also giving names to the characters. The protagonist, Eula, is on the front, but we have Alandra (Jumpstart character, apparently Talrand's niece), Kequia, Teferi's granddaughter, Jamira, Angrath's daughter (they remembered he exists surprisingly) and Segante, who just seems to be entirely new like Eula.
Are we gonna get SoS spoilers soon, or is it not a Magic set people care enough about?
>>97149109First look will probably happen sometime around when TMNT's out, or just before.
>1 mana creature with repeated draw for 2>becomes a wincon with moonmist + caltrops
>>97149146Why does Bruce have an "I <3 Tony" mug? Maybe Tony gave it as a joke.
>>97149157They’re both gay now. You have a problem with that you BIGOT! They were always gay coded, only a CHUD wouldn’t have seen that!
BRING BACK PLANESWALKERS WOTC FUCK EDH!
>>97148967bro... your HML-HML-4ED draft format...?
>>97149278actually I have been playing LEA-LEB-2ED-ARN-ATQ-LEG-DRK-FEM sealed against the AI on mtg forge
I hope Marvel flops just like the spooderman set
>>97149018>Alandra (Jumpstart character, apparently Talrand's niece)>Kequia, Teferi's granddaughter>Jamira, Angrath's daughter (they remembered he exists surprisingly)"multiverse" in cinema (MCU) was a mistake.>>97149146and it is shit for modern magic. AMAZING!
>>97149359I hope TMNT flops too. Just so I can get the boxes supercheap.
I love how WOTC still cope about the "Black is totally not the evil colour guys" when all the UB sets they've been shitting out have had good guys as primarily white and villains/ bad guys as almost entirely black
>>97149369TMNT is confirmed to be another scuffed mini set like Spiderman IIRC so I can see it
>>97149317based
>>97149218There's one new Planeswalker in every universes within set though. I do think that depowering most PWs was a mistake.
>>97149452Yeah, only one, there used to be at least 3 every set. The whole desparking thing and turning them into Legendary creatures was all for the sake of Commander.
>>97149452The depowering was because they pussied out during War of the Spork and did fuck nothing with that. So to raise the stakes they had a shittily written mass depowering that should have happened during WAR but didn't so WAR was trash, and the current depowering is trash because it comes out of nowhere.WotC honest to God writes like fucking children.
>>97149370To be fair, Splinter is Black despite being the good guy mentor character. Spider-Man Noir and Spider-Man with the symbiote are also Black.There's also plenty of Villains in Blue, Red, and even Green in Spider-Man and will probably be more in Marvel. There haven't been any mono-white Villains yet though.
How do you look at shit like TMNT, Spiderman, Avatar, and MCU shit in Magic cards and not become immensely depressed/disgusted?
>>97149482Why would I want to have a different reaction than that?
>>97149482There will come a time when MtG is not even known as the “fantasy card game”. It’s already happening. It will be known as the game that was once a fantasy game but is now exclusively UB. They won’t even call it UB anymore. It will just be “magic the gathering” followed by whatever current secondary IP they want to use.In 5-10 years UB will have completely taken over.
>>97148334>At best they "theorycraft" because no one can actually afford to keep up with this Fortnite shit at this pace.It's funny how cards designed for Commander don't even need to necessarily be good in Commander. They just need to be "interesting" enough for people to theorycraft around them for a deck they'll only play like twice if at all.
>>97148015yuck
>>97149482Easy, I like TMNT, Spider-man, Avatar, and the MCU
>>97149592>namor isn't legendary
>>97149500Magic was never the "Fantasy Card Game, it was "The Card Game". After some time it was proceeded by the "Pokemon Card Game" and the "Anime Card Game".
>>97148015>tq i play 60 card jank at work with some bros, and i collect a little largley based on art work and themes rather than value.
>>97149597Wrong Namor
>>97149599Well now it’s “the card game that whores itself out to every IP”
>>97149500>In 5-10 years UB will have completely taken overWe're already there. In-universe sets are now considered a "special treat" and should not be considered the norm according to WOTC. Whenever they release one, r/magictcg posts about how "we all need to vote with out wallets" and support the set so it will encourage Wizards to not fully abandon their own IP, as though that isn't already a foregone conclusion.I fully quit the game when pic related was spoiled.
>>97148436Because Venser died in a heroic sacrifice, making his death permanent
>>97149616No, that's still weiss schwarz
>>97149146>turn 3-4>cast caltrops>cast bruce>anger in grave>cast mistmoon>get trillion +1/+1 counters on the hulkster>pass the turn as you can't deal any damage...>you win...?
>>97149654The end of normal mtg sets is a matter of time. I think it will take some time for them to be phased out entirely though as WoTC don’t have to pay licensing fees etc. They’ll definitely dig into their own IPs though. MLP already had a secret lair, a full set is just around the corner. Expect it to be even cringier than whatever the fuck this card is.
Just surf /co/ for whatever cringe gay cartoons they have and they will fit right in with the new Magic.
>>97149688>a full MLP magic the gathering setIf this had released in the 2010s it would have collapsed the entire global economy because whales had funneled all currency on earth to wotc. Today it would make merely billions of dollars.
>>97149654>I fully quit the game the very first time any UB cards was announcedSounds like you were already looking for an excuse to stop playing.
>create a barrier like Invisible Woman>becomes stronger like the Thing>throws fire like Human Torch>and ... research power like Mr. Stretchy
>>97149737To be fair that is his super power. The stretching is just secondary. The fact this capeshit is in mtg at all is the real shitshow.
>>97149729Nope, I actually consider 2019-2020 to be the peak of MTG as a whole (aside from stuff like Oko, Astrolabe, Hogaak etc.), so I definitely would have kept playing if they hadn't done this.I could see where it was going back then so I just bit the bullet and sold all my cards. Every decision wizards has made since then has only made me feel more vindicated in quitting.
This capeshit is truly revolting but stay tuned because the worst has yet to come.This game is so cooked is unreal.
>>97149763This card always makes me angry. What the fuck does it even mean? In comp I’m guessing only side board but in everyday magic and drafting? Can I grab my fucking phage, akroma, avacyn, and griselbrand? Why does white even get this fucking card advantage card? What the fuck were they thinking????
>>97149779Have you never seen a "outside the game" card before?
>2U>Vigilance, reach
>>97149794Only on uncards.
>WotC breaks the hardest unbroken rule in all of design history, blue cards get Flying not ReachAnd with that, the last remnants of occult power this game possesses are scattered into the wind.
>>97149809dude...
>>97149607>Whenever you cast a blue noncreature spelll...Was this really THAT fucking hard to figure out how to word?
>>97149815Every color can get Reach.
>>97149821The effect cares specifically about how many blue pips the spell has, dumbass, not if its blue or not.
>>97149815>>97149823There was only ever one other blue card with reach. It also had devoid so perhaps it doesn’t count.
>>97148750>The day these noses actually make powerful standard white cards is the day I stop.Okay good news White is one of the strongest colors and is played in a majority of decks.Now's the part where you move the goalpost and say "fake white, mono white decks only!"
>>97149809"Wish" cards have been a thing for decades. Strixhaven even introduced an entire spell type that could be pulled from outside the game. None of them work in commander though as a sideboard exceeds the 100 card limit.
>>97149829>The effect cares specifically about how many blue pips the spell has, dumbass, not if its blue or not.This is the stupidest fucking gorilla brain distinction in the fucking universe and whoever thought it was a good idea to implement should be lobotomized.
>>97149840>White is one of the strongest colors and is played in a majority of decks.
>>97149844Concession accepted, Mahmood!
>>97149842??????What the fuck are you talking about? It cares because it's a card that wants you to play monocolor, retard. It's not even a new concept, and it's basically what devotion's all about anyway.
>>97149849>It cares because it's a card that wants you to play monocolorNo it fucking doesn't.
>>97149853It's 1UU and rewards you for playing cards with lots of blue pips in them. If you play Jeskai Revelation or Dovin's Veto it'll only make one token, but Invoke the Winds will make five. What else do you think it is but a monocolor payoff, retard?
>>97149864Sorry, Invoke the Winds will make four.
>>97149763Why are Americans so obsessed with the multiverse concept?
>>97149841>CommanderDidn’t ask and don’t give a shit. Commander is the cancer killing mtg even more than UB.
>>97149779Outside the game means your sideboard in competitive formats, or just any card you have lying around in casual, yes.
>>97149875Just trying to educate you since you clearly don't know shit about Magic.
>>97149809bruh
>>97149890I don’t know about Commander and I don’t want to know.
>>97149809You never heard of fucking learn?
>>97149902I think it was after I stopped paying attention to magic. I only came back a few months ago. I do remember burning wish now that people mention the wish cards.
>>97149607>VillainWill we get another card where he has the Hero type?
>>97148163Wait I thought Tidus dies lol
>>97148250I hate this. So fucking much.
>>97149959Mtg is dead and we killed it.
>>97149918Unlikely. Namor is, at best, as asshole.
>>97149974I didn't. I didn't buy any of this garbage. Don't put this on me.
>>97149979Namor has been a member of the Avengers and the X-Men. Namor maybe an asshole, but if Wolverine and Deadpool get to be a Hero then so should he.
>>97149454fuck you planeswalker minigame is total cancerbattles was a better system
>>97149984Wolverine has been a hero from day 1 and Deadpool is a gag character, Namor was literally introduced trying to rape Sue.
>>97149989I thought he was introduced sinking Nazi and Japanese ships.
>>97149981Really? Not even a single booster? Well I guess it’s we as in the mtg community instead
>>97149984Sure but it's a matter a ratio. Wolverine and Deadpool are, at worst, anti-heroes, and at best, heroes. Namor is at best an anti-hero and at worst, a genocidal sex pest.
>>97149815>>97149838I fail to see the issue. Blue didn't get Reach because Reach is objectively weaker than Flying, which Blue has plenty of. A Blue card having Reach isn't a color pie break, it's just a weaker card.
>>97149989Wolverine actually started as a Hulk villain, but he is significantly more of a hero than Namor is.
>>97149989>damn invisibitch ... tempting Lord of Atlantis ... needs rape correctionSounds like a hero me
>>97150015Wolverine started out as a Hulk ANTAGONIST, he wasn't a villain. He was a hero working for the Canadian government, and Canada understandably didn't want a yankee rampaging monster fucking things up on their soil.
Friendly reminder you ALL killed Magic when you refused to gatekeep. This is why we are living in the current UB era.
>>97150026> Canada understandably didn't want a yankee rampaging monster fucking things up on their soilA muslim rampaging monster would probably be fine thoubeit
>>97150050I'm literally only still playing magic right now because new people picked up the game. Had they not, I wouldn't have enough friends who have decks to play regularly
>>97149992No, that came later. He had already threatened the sink Manhattan into the ocean before the nazi's showed up and he started his "team up against a greater evil" bit that he does with the other heroes.
>>97150070He didn't just threaten to sink Manhattan, he actually tried to sink Manhattan by launching a huge tidal wave that probably killed a bunch of people.
>>97150072lol, classic Namor
>>97149157and? do you have any problem with homosexuality?
You niggas are really still playing and talking about this game hahaha you know there's a ninja turtles set coming right. When will you quit?
>>97150003Green has a bunch of anti-flying effects that are meant to fuck over its enemy colour blue, the main flying colour.All those plumets and cloudthreshers don't do shit against reach.This is the same garbadge as swapping blue's untap for vigilance, which interacts differently with all the cards made before
>>97149873they arent, just big gay corpo is and the redditors who eat up their slopmost of us quit magic cause its gay and for trannies, only the libs fags are left
I literally couldn't care less about the "lore" of marvelslop.please refrain from talking about that garbage in my presence
>>97149873Spidervers movies made money so you see ripples on the water from it
>>97149989>Namor was literally introduced trying to rape Sue.Namor was introduced to comics in Marvelfirst-ever comic, where he was a Villain protagonist fighting against America
Premodern is now on mtgo? I might give it a try...>>97149607>FoW/Daze>Print dudes for FREEMerfolk bros?We back?
>>97150169I'm an Arena-only player, and I have a few Commander decks for the once-in-a-blue-moon I play with friends IRL. I sold most of my collection, and have no intention of buying new cards.Staying on as an Arena-only player is pretty low investment.
>TQMaking my own cards, I look forward to new spoilers in case WotC has come up with an interesting mechanic.
Hidden gibbons is such a fun card
>>97150169I still have hope this will improve at some point…Or explode… either result will be good
>>97150169I still enjoy Magic more then any other card game
>>97150278>"His crusade against white men!"Why did they feel the need to specify white men? I get that it was a different time, but surely Namor would make no distinction between white men and other races, to him they'd all be filthy air-breathers.
>>97150463You have very low standards then.
>>97150480Despite everything, Magic is good. People in this thread will deny that because they hate everything that has happened to to the game, but the game is really, really good. You might like or not like how it is right now, but at its core the game still plays like a dream, and in 10 or 20 years when the crossover frenzy is long over, it will still play like a dream.The land and mana mechanics, despite all the rage they cause, are an inerent check on all the bullshit- even in the strongest possible formats the degeneracy is held in check by their existance. The combat is simple and snappy, the land mechanics are intuitive, the formatting and the card frame design is elegant, and the rules have been refined through the years into the closest we can get to actually running a computer game IRL with how they can predict every possible occurrence.Are there misses? Yes. Dungeon, speed, banding, clash, party, so on. Are there broken cards? Yes. Oko, Omnath, Heartfire Hero, so on. Sometimes they let keywords get to their head and make 2 page long cards. Sometimes they go insane and shit out value engines that let you run away with the game. But despite all that, the core of Magic is good, the mechanics are broadly fun, the fact they design sets to be playable as small games in of themselves is unique and an experience absolutely no other game can give like Magic can, and they are extremely transparent about nearly every design decision they make. It is genuinely, despite UB and Commander and powercreep and Modern Horizons, the single best collectible card game in the market.
>>97150480Magic is still a fundamentally better and deeper game than any other TCG I've played. The combat step in particular is the best I've seen a TCG do, granted I have not played every TCG on the planet so there may be a better one out there, I dunno but I doubt it. I like the Bandai TCGs a lot too but I don't have a ton of trust in Bandai to manage these games long term seeing has how they sometimes seem to speedrun 10 years worth of MTG powercreep in a single year.
>>97150498We really need some new competition. Built in support for 4 player games would be cool, and not just EDH style.
>>97150498>Despite everything, Magic is good. People in this thread will deny that because they hate everything that has happened to to the game, but the game is really, really good. You might like or not like how it is right now, but at its core the game still plays like a dream, and in 10 or 20 years when the crossover frenzy is long over, it will still play like a dream.i played 5th ed draft over cockatrice last nightmore people should do this and ignore ub and standard
Fucked up that I, a ponza (fair, honest land destruction) player , have to suffer matchups against parallax tide (cheap, low IQ land destruction) faggots.
>>97150548maybe don't play shit formats then
>>97150547>Just play draft, stop thinking, stop looking at cards, just buy product, stop thinking, just play draftNext you will say, "Just play cube"
>>97150558i said over cockatrice retard i didnt pay a dime. especially not for fucking 5th ed booster packs that go for $50 each
>>97150558maybe try reading
>>97149750I sold 90% of my collection in 2019. Man all that modern stuff I sold is worth pennies now.
>What keeps you interested in MTG at this point?My IRL friends who refuse to learn other games. If I had my way my friends would be playing PokemonTCG.
>>97150760Did you keep a battle box of decks to play?
People complained that 5C Humans was a flavorless pushed bullshit deck but now 5C Humans is literally unplayable and the pushed bullshit decks are genuine valueslop nonsense piles where your faggy 1/1 soul sister man makes cats fly and you blink sphinxes with a heckin' cute pupperinooo to gain 40 life and swing for 20 in the air by turn 4.
>>97150837Pokemon tcg is good if you're fine without instant speed interaction. I would want to play with only pokemon with no rules textI've been giving people golden showers.
>>97149840>Okay good news White is one of the strongest colors and is played in a majority of decks.You poor, deluded shekelsucker
>>97149840White has been the weakest color in MTG for several years now, because WOTC hates white people.
>>97150892Last I heard, this guy was terrorizing the game.
>>97150915The best cards from Modern Horizons 3? All white.
MH4 will fix everything
>>97149959Thank god I moved to OPShit on anime all you want, at least they don't sell out and the cards are cheap
>>97150997>grief is white
>>97151018One Piss is the most whored anime since Evangelion and Dragonballz
>>97150960That guy turns off tutors and other effects so there's a chance your deck get locked. then burned out with munkidori. Crustle is the guy who locks my deck out of the game. I have to dilute the deck to have an answer for him.I wish pokemon wasn't so gay and childish. People will think your a pedo if you play in public. I'm pretty sure a lot of the characters are like 8 years old. IDK, I don't follow the lore
>>97150498>mechanics are intuitive, the formatting is elegantWith the word slop they but in a single text box now? Really?
>>97151018>Shit on anime all you want, at least they don't sell outlol what this is a joke, right?
>>97151036They're 12. The oldest are like 14. 15.I played Pokemon for a bit up to whatever was after Vivid Voltage where I would prey on Jew & Jewtwo GX decks with Whimsicott piling skateboards onto it to hit for 300 damage. You can do actually interesting things in Pokemon, for not a whole lot of money, and shit on metafags. Like you used to be able to do in Magic...The new Pokemon designs are all gay and weird though and I'm not into it.
>>97151088>for not a whole lot of moneyall cards cost the same from china man
>>97151103Shut the fuck up, coping faggot, you know what I mean. People shouldn't have to pay $500 to compete in Standard or get fake chink cards. Just because you can get around it doesn't mean it isn't stupid.
Anyway. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/lorwyn-eclipsed-episode-3-aweary-of-this-moon>Dina leads Ajani and Lili off to the wood where the students disappeared, while Dina privately muses that while she's upset to have lost them, it's mostly because that'd mean she's less likely to be trusted for other stuff in the future, she's not planning to become a teacher or anything>Killian's apparently going to be upset at Abigale going missing because she was a clear Silverquill hopeful, though, and Dina's at least vaguely aware of Tamira, and assumes the others will have people missing them too>Lili does some magic and quickly determines that the students aren't dead, because nothing as big and complicated as a person died there today, Ajani and her have a bit of snark at each other>Ajani explores a bit, finds a flower petal, and says it's a smell he's smelled before, Dina is confused and Lili goes "He means Lorwyn", I guess they're at least aware of the place to an extent (sure, there's time gaps they could've been there before, Lili especially)>Ajani and Lili discuss it a bit, before Ajani declares that he's aware of a stable Omenpath between Lorwyn and Shandalar, so he planeswalks over to Lorwyn to try and find the students and bring them through said Omenpath>It's also mentioned Tamira is from Shandalar>Lili tells Dina they're going back to campus, because Ajani will find them, it'll be fine>Back on Lorwyn, Brigid explains they were lucky they ran across her, because most others would try to help them more directly and potentially get lost to Shadowmoor>Anyway, she's leading them to Goldmeadow, which they arrive at in short order>Kirol sort of broadly asks what this place IS, because the entire place is built for people not of their statue. Only Sanar really fits in, size-wise
monored is really good in Standard right now but nobody's playing it because it doesn't have big crazy turns the way the Izzet and Izzet adjacent decks do. I havent lost a game at my LGS since Worlds because everyone's playing the new hotness lol
>>97148015>DoombotThis danger could be real, you just need better accumulators. Either the accumulators are lighter and with a large capacity and/or a gasoline generator. Colonels will love Doombots.
>>97151135It's incredible how WotC can't come up with a single main character anyone cares about
>>97151135>Brigid leads them to the meeting hall of the place, and Kirol asks why not her home, she says she doesn't live there, she tends to make Kithkin a bit nervous because her thoughtweft connection is all fucked-up>Kirol really wants to ask what a thoughtweft is, but Tamira has a look on her face that makes them think better>They get inside and Brigid properly asks them where they're from, since clearly it's not from around here>Sanar rambles off a very word but entirely useless explanation about the faerie and the hole and all, Brigid just stares blankly before Tam explains it a bit more proper>Brigid asks them about the creature, they describe it, she goes "oh that was a faerie", and says it's fortunate for them, because she's a close friend of their queen>She explains she can get in touch with Maralen, ask about the faerie that led them there and how to maybe get back, and all that>Sanar then just asks if faeries can talk, Brigid says of course, so Sanar asks why they don't just ask the faerie>This confuses everybody, but then they all turn to Sanar and realise said faerie is literally floating in front of his face, before it starts laughing>Its laughter is interrupted by alarm bells, and the faerie flees outside as Brigid looks to see what's going on>Oop, Isilu's coming and Goldmeadow's getting Shadowmoor'd>And Brigid says this shouldn't be, Goldmeadow's been comfortably Lorwyn for years, and further explains that the nomads in the city are in danger because the locals are a lot less friendly in Shadowmoor>Brigid says she can't help them further, she's gotta help the people here, they're gonna have to find Maralen on their own>She at least tells them where she is, Glen Elendra, and gives them directions, and then gives them a final warning about how the person that she'll be in the darkness is not her and not to listen to that one
>>97151170I like Chandra as a character, but hate planeswalkers as cards
I rather play YuGi than go with Spock, pic related, and Raphael. By the end of 2026 we will remember MKM as a dream set.
>>97151199Chandra is literally Naruto
>>97151170Shouldn't have killed off Gideon.
>>97149880Pure SEX
>>97151178>Out she goes and the students follow, and Shadowmoor'd residents immediately start attacking them out of suspicion while Brigid does her best to keep the students safe>But soon enough the Shadowmoor section hits Brigid and she's just as quickly fighting them too, leading the students to just run as best they can>A bit later, Abigale is explaining that it doesn't seem like the Shadowmoor ones were BAD so much as scared and paranoid from what she could figure>Sanar just wants to get home, Tam reassures him they'll get to this Maralen and get home soon enough>Sanar asks if they're going the right way, Tam makes it a point they're going due east, and asks if he doesn't really know directions, and he says he doesn't, goblins don't really need them>Tam finds that annoying, for reasons>They come to the Wanderwine, the river Brigid told them to cross, and realise it's a bit of an issue to cross, so Abigale has to fly them over one by one>We get a bit of exposition about Kirol, saying they can't fly, but some really powerful vampires can, their mom says maybe they can someday, but their dad says nobody in their family ever has. I guess vampires are just a race where Kirol's from, not an infection or a turning>They cross over the river, Kirol geeks out about some flowers, then they head into the woods>Kirol starts to lag behind a bit, and none of them notice when Kirol's suddenly taken>Somebody has an arm around their neck and a hand on their mouth, apparently not really knowing that vampires don't breathe>The knife to the throat is more of an issue, though>The figure, revealed to be an elf, asks what they're all doing here, why Isilu is walking, all that>Kirol, unbothered by the recent threat on their life, just introduces themself, and asks the elf for his name>This is Lluwen, and Kirol explains they're just trying to get home>Lluwen says no, Kirol's coming with him because the High Perfect Morcant will want to see them>So Kirol's taken prisoner
>>97151227Nobody cared about Gideon before they killed him off.
>>97151216you don’t like moon girl and the evil dinosaur? they will go great in my sonic commander deck!
>the standard meta is epic grandma combos with avatar cards, aang airbending his mount, superior spider-man, and a badgermole ramping into a space wormthis game already looks insanely fucking gay and retarded. this is without a doubt the most tonally incoherent and flavorless tcg now, worse than weiss schwarz or anything else. it will never recover and it will get worse. if even a single turtles or capeslop card is meta it's fucking over.magic has become the thing that 90s bullies would give nerds purple nurples over on TV, an incredibly stupid, gay, childish, incomprehensible waste of money.
>>97151238Gideon was a gigachad on Amonkangz just singlehandedly clearing every trial while saving everyone on his team and rival teams at the same time, then when the gods started malding because he was so good no one died for the first time ever, he just stood there saying their beliefs are retarded before walking off.
>>97151246> if even a single turtles or capeslop card is meta it's fucking over.
>>97151246get good scrub
>>97151217I disagree >>97151238Chandra liked Gideon
>>97151346Retconned, h*tero. Chandra only wants Nissa's veiny vine dick in her now.
>>97151363She's always been attracted to guys regardless, they just unretconned her not being into girls.
Why are everyone freaking out over lessons and focus on graveyard hate only? Or made bad suggestions like shitty awful tempo negative cards like fucking High Noon against a bounce deck? Like just blow up their stormchasers talent or monument and they have zero threats. Did everyone just forget the 5000 different variations of disenchant or what's going on with magic players? Is everyone so braindead over netdecking too much they don't understand a fundamental thing like this? Artist talent and monument are such do nothing cards on their own?
>>97151372absolutely hilarious they started the chapter like that
>>97151390>just get beat to death with a 1/1 with prowess
>>97148015Now wait just a second...
>>97151399we have 300 different cards in standard that can deal with that. They have 2 threats, stormchasers talent and monument, why not just build to get rid of those?
>>97151493yes and now you have 2 for 1'd yourself over a 1 drop, paid way more mana and needed to draw two different kinds of removal to even do itcan you see why this is a problem yet?
>>97151390> Plays disenchant, get's hit by otter. Play rest in peace, get's hit by otter. Play pinnacle storage, opponant plays boomerang basics, get's hit by otter.
>>97151493>they just play another otterwhat now gaynigger?
>>97149482I find great schadenfreude knowing pussies like you were frothing at the mouth this summer for a Sephiroth.
>>97151524This>>97151493You get out valued easily and lose thats why it won a tournament against 6 other copies of itself. If we had a one mana colorless disenchant thay drew you a card it still probably wouldnt be good enough.
>>97149482Avatar has some great designs and mechanics though
This version of Expressive Iteration is way better than the regular one
Pffffftahaha
>>97151714This is the better one, though.
>>97151730yeah im out
>>97151730>3 mana colossal dinowow this is le ebin
>>97151731>>97151714ENTERSexy dancing brown woman Iteration
>>97151489Thought of that as well.
>>97151730I swear I saw that exact dinosaur pose somewhere, I want to say it was in Jurassic park promo material. Like they took it and colored it red then put the roller skater in frontThere's something really fucked with the not to mention fucking the steve urkle looking ass girl
>>97149677wouldn't the additional combat trigger off each caltrops hit?
>>97151780The only thing wrong with this card is the cringe ass flavor text.
It's time to unban iteration in pioneer
>>97151860you could literally unban every card in the pioneer banlist (including fetches) and the format would take it just finethe power creep of the last 3 years or so is beyond insane
>>97151780>woman dances as civilization literally crumbles around herWhat did the jews mean by this?
>>97151860What's pioneer?
Cute brown girls domming legacy
>>97151886The non rotating format least affected by the UB.
It's honestly shocking how a card this meta could have art so shitty. Prismari is the definition of cringe.
>>97151899This doesn't seem very good
>>97151899commander card rotated legacy again?
>>97151899>dommingwrong>>97151948that's because it isn't, it's very fringe right now>>97151951no, it's the 20th most played blue creature in the format
>>97151997How do these low curve dimir decks win in legacy when they don't exactly cheat shit out and often cards they play have low power meaning opponent should have plenty of turns to respond?
>>97151951> An eternal format rotatesThis is how you know WOTC considers it a successful set.
>>97151899>domming legacy>some people tried it out in a few decks for a little while to mild results and hasn't showed up in any lists since
>>97151234>>A bit later, Abigale is explaining that it doesn't seem like the Shadowmoor ones were BAD so much as scared and paranoid from what she could figure.Pretty weak "I just know". She could have felt it through the hearing aid that was sympathetic to thoughtweft as it had been previously established.
>>97151997Give it time legacy boomers are always behind the time.
>>97152016daze & fow
I'm surprised this thing hasn't broken anything in modern yet.
>>97152080Magic Gayds made a deck with this thing and you can see how the meta just runs over it with more pushed bullshit.
>>97152080where would you even play this? the card is so bad
>>97152126wrong thread.
>>97152126>Commanderslop
>>97152080Yeah it seemed good, I was tempted to play coomander for a second when it was spoiled. IDK about any 60 card formats though. What artifacts would even be worth resolving like this? Mystic forge?t1 ladyt2 counter #1, serum visions, counter #2t3 counter #3, serum visions, counter #4, tap mystic forgeHonestly that seems pretty slow if playing it fair. I can't think of any degenerate plays here.
>>97152126Brain dead actions, from brain dead player, in a brain dead format, >Behave like a toddlerYou get what you ask for
>>97152166he deleted it. What did it say?
>>97151875Its the whore of babylon
>>97152174>What did it say?it was this post >>97152161he made it on the wrong thread, now it's in the correct place
>spidermanslop>flopped>avatorslop>boring>tmntslop>boring>hero slop>boringThey're all mechanically and artistically boring.It's like they're just the same set but reskinned with different IPs.
>>97151780If the flavor text were just "Art exposes truth" it would have been kino.
>>97152269>picThese were boxes of MOM Aftermath right?
>>97152313Allegedly some Magic 30th Anniversary boxes
>>97152166At least half the commander stories I read are about getting mad at how other players play, or how if they see X or Y being played at a table they just refuse to play, how the fuck am I supposed to take this format seriously?
>>97152328The vocaroo is unbelievably right about commander and the "people" that play it. Your mistake was not believing the vocaroo.
>>97152326Aren't those things worth a crazy amount of money though?
>>97152343Yes, which is why people were surprised.
>>97152343Yeah, so much that they've been collecting dust in every scalper's basement.
>>97149880Imagine a sloppy blowjob under that viel.
>>97152328>>97152337Because it's a boardgame, or some weird ttrpg, not a "format". If you're playing a ttrpg do you not avoid playing with people who you already know are absolute asshats that ruin the game? If you're playing a simple game like Monopoly with your normie friends and one or more of them act like complete morons, maybe throwing a tantrum because they wanted to do something else or whatever, and ruin the evening for everyone else, do you want to play boardgames with those individuals again? Of course not, they've proven to be toxic, either by their behavior or by how they play, and you'd rather not play with them again.It's the exact same thing with commander, it's a social activity and like any social activity you don't want to play with people you don't like. The mistake anons here keep making is assuming that it's some sort of TCG format. The sooner people realize that WOTC is no longer a TCG company, but rather a boardgame company, the sooner you'll understand everything about the current direction of the game.
>>97152343Time for a redpill: nobody is buying this shit, it's all """investors""" and retards who think they are investors, these things have 0 worth and could crash down to 0 at any moment the gig is up.
>>97150064Gatekeeping doesn't mean never letting new people in you deceptive faggot. It means vetting new blood and making sure they will fit the space, and won't warp the space to fit them.
>>97152399I believe that, I just found it surprising since 30th anniversary cards are always listed (for what that's worth) at very high prices. But there's at least enough real transactions of those things that you can easily make quite a bit of money selling them, I for sure would be happy to find boxes in a landfill.
>>97150892>Pokemon tcg is good if you're fine without instant speed interaction.I'm not. I'd rather have 0 creatures than 0 interaction.
Why do Americans pay so much for magic cards? They cost like twice as much in the US
>refuse to gatekeep>a game that desperately and relentlessly tries to appeal to every kind of audience by dumbing the game down to absurd levels of mental retardation and introducing foreign IPs like every single game now is doing because apparently all these market analysts believe the voices in their own heads telling them there are infinite new playersYou couldn't gatekeep this game from a fat dog in a wheelchair even if you disintegrated it with a Gustav
On the topic of magic 30th being over valued literal garbage.>Visit an LGS in old hometown about the time Magic 30th orders were to open>Talking to the store owner asking what they think of the retarded $1000 proxies>They go full on defense of the product saying how amazing it is and other cocksucking of it>They say that they're gonna get a dozen of them>Lol ok good luck with that and leave>Year later>Trip to hometown again>The LGS closedHow could this happen?
>>97149607And you guys still play this game?
>>97151527This is why we need [Super-Duper farewell]2WBBExpunge all permanents Expunge all graveyards Each opponent discards 3 cards( if a card would be expunged, put it into the absolutely removed from the freaking game forever zone. Cards expunged this way can't be wished for and companions removed this way must be ripped in half and thrown in the trash)
>>97152399There's still some legitimate organic demand, particularly for UB tourist shit, but scalpers are the reason why Standard staples are crazy expensive even though supply should be absolutely flooded given that sales records are being broken while in-store play is so low. Most of the supply is sitting in boxes in scalpers' basements.
>>97152399>>97152436> Majority of sales are to investors.$50,000 of transactions of Magic 30th happened last year.
I miss sex appeal bros
>>97152553>scalpers selling to scalpersok and?I have to invest 1k just to earn 1.01k 2 years later?Are you fucking retarded?
I bought a Magic 30th basic land for one of my Commander decks for a laugh.
>>97152553You won't convince me this isn't money laundering
>>97148015> or a Planugh make it stop
>>97152509Add emblems to the list and then WOTC HIRE THIS MAN.
I'm looking into getting to commander from 60 cards, is the avatar bundle worth 100€?
>>97152623Give that money rather to me.I'll give you a big kiss.
>>97152388many make the mistake of playing at the LGS with the troons and mentally unwell. EDH expanding beyond "closed and highly-vetted circle of friends/coworkers" is a mistake. the format cannot survive contact with randos.
>>97152627Lips or the tip?
>>97152632Unironically why are so many EDH players troons?
>>97152650Eyes.
>>97152652meme answer or autistic explanation?
>>97148355TNG is like the greatest television show ever madeand I don't give a shit about any other Star Trek property (and couldn't even name most of them).wonder how a 'Star Trek' set is going to go.
>>97152594They don't plan to
>>97152652I don't know under which rock you've been living under but you find about the same amount playing MTG too. Honestly it's just endemic to all "nerdy" hobbies these days.
>>97152571When was the last time you spent money on this game? Who is buying the cards? What is the ratio of investors to EDH troons?Final Fantasy packs are only going up from here. Buy now!
>>97152623Not at all for the purposes of getting into the format. For that amount of money you can buy a precon and upgrades for that precon.Review the contents of it.>Collector boosterNot helpful to actually building a deck.>3 commander staplesYou can buy versions of these for less than $3 total.>2 booster fun cards (commander goodstuff cards)Random nature ruins it and while the cards are generally good, aren't going to help you build towards antything specific.>30 basic landsFor about $25 you can buy an entire land station or just go to an LGS and ask for basics, they'll likely just give them to you for free or dirt cheap.You're better off buying a precon in the colors you want and playing the deck until you establish yourself a deck you built yourself. Bonus if you can reuse cards from the precon.
>>97152652Same reason as any other nerd hobby. It correlates with the number of autists. It's a social infection that some varieties of autists simply have a weak immune response against.
>>97152756I forgot to cover the play boosters, same issue as the collector booster. Sure it's a bunch of cards but it's a bunch of random cards so that doesn't actually help you build a deck for certain. What happens if you don't open enough or what you need to build a deck? You'll have to buy singles then anyway.
>>97152786>>97152756Good points anon, I won't FOMO the saleThanks
>>97152744Honestly, i've spent like 30ish bucks on FF.All on singles and all cards wanted for my decks and collections.No one but scalpers and content sloppers buys sealed shit.Spending 1k on a loot box is genuinely a litmus test.
>>97148015Less than 1% in the US are TransLess than 6% are gay men in the USYet the lead designers are all either gay or trans
>>97152848Insane if you think about how overrepresented they are at events at every fucking thing you can think of.Also that statistic doesn't account for trannies i.e. crossdressers or mentally ill fucks who actually believe they are what they think they are.
>>97152774I was going to say this. Autism is so highly correlated to being a troon anyone who troons out should be tested. Autism effects identity, people can get obsessed easily, and in many leftist circles unless you’re some form of victim demographic you’re treated like a dog. They’re people already confused by identity, who can’t understand normal social cues, who are then positively reinforced socially into turning themselves into grotesque homunculi through surgery. Frankly the 42% number is shockingly low.But back to mtg. Multiplayer magic has always been a thing but EDH adds another layer of casualness through intentionally inconsistent decks. Slightly balanced by having a commander to add the illusion of consistency. The few times I’ve tried it I found it just extremely dull. Like playing diplomacy but even worse. It was meant to be a meme format but now is all WoTC cares about. A sick joke of a format for troons and retards.
>>97152848And how many are jewish?
>>97152820>No one but scalpers and content sloppers buys sealed shit.Many people enjoy playing draft and sealed. Myself included. I buy the cards then play it with friends.
>>97152902There's a lot less dedicated draft players than you imagine. There's a reason they keep fucking with packs and making them worse for draft. Because the draft experience is irrelevant to their bottom line.
>>97152882>in many leftist circles unless you’re some form of victim demographic you’re treated like a dogI keep telling people that the real reason for the overrepresentation of troons and other assorted mentally ill freaks in media in general is due to the absolute stranglehold they have on art colleges around most of the developed world making it nearly impossible for anyone who isn't either in on their cult or at the very least openly supportive of it to get a degree and therefore a job in creative studios.
>>97152921Nah you're a crazy chud, everyone knows that conservatives can't make art. That's why every single piece of media is run by liberal leftist socialist LGBTQIA+ ideologues who push it even more.
>>97152919At my LGS drafts are always popular. It is a significant number. But the most popular formats are EDH and kitchen table magic.
>>97152848Imagine being Gavin Verhey. Win some tournament and get a job designing magic cards. Your coworkers are degenerate weirdos. Then have to design cards meant another game entirely. While watching 60 card formats rotate time after time after time.
>>97152998If I was Gavin, I'd be a degenerate weirdo too.
>>97152921Everyone does it when they're on top, see the Hayes Code and the shitshow that was.
>>97152978>this group can't do X that's why that other group that employs majority tactics to alienate and excommunicate their enemies are the only ones left doing XAs an artist, if you even give the impression that you're not in favor of your kid getting diddled by 50 y.o. crossdressers with aids, you won't get a job no more in the industry.Ask Terese Nielsen.
>>97152798Only other thing in the bundle is the life counter wheel, which isnt cards so it doesn't actually help build a deck. But you can buy one on TCGplayer for $13.
>>97153017The Comics Code Authority too, that shit basically made comics from the mid-50's to the end of the 60's suck ass.
answer me this: did avatar flop? no? then you have you answer, assume everything is more interesting than actual magic, and that dr. doom, shredder or picard are now magic and much more interesting than magic.
>>97153094Spiderman floped
>>97153094HERE PIGGIE PIGGIE!!!TIME FOR THE SLOP, DELICIOUS SLOP!!!!
>>97153094answer me this: did spiderman flop? yes? then you have your answer, assume magic is more interesting than universes beyond, and that dr. doom, shredder or picard are going to fail and will never be more interesting than magic.
>>97152016Barrowgoyf and Murktide are incredibly fast clocks, especially the latter, when they come down. >>97151899This card needed evasion to be more relevant. I think the effect is still quite powerful but she's slow and too easy to remove.>>97151730This art is so bad it seems like satire.
>>97152919which is odd because limited is the best MTG format and the best suited to attending an LGS. whenever a bad set comes out it tanks interest (compare FF and EOE limited environments and attendance vs Aetherdrift and Spider-man even though FF and EOE were in peak summer)they just can't properly unify catering to the scalpers vs the limited players vs the edh troons. they gave up on constructed entirely, and when they give up on limited (spider-man) the LGS suffers
>>97151730> do thing draw card meets draw card do thing> moon cricket simic: the gathering
>>97152998Imagine being a biased kike who hates white as much as Nosewater and spend a decade forcing shit cards into the color while going on YouTube to claim you’re going to fix the color you destroyed. And then every hoarking seal claps retardedly in approval. God damn this kike and this company.
>>97152497>They say that they're gonna get a dozen of themFunny enough, my store did this. Owner outright said it was dumb but he "didnt open a game store to rip standard packs all day"Ended up getting a big hit 3rd pack and got it graded. Sold the rest of the packs and had his PSA 10 Mox Pearl set in the most niggerish giant silver chain you ever seen
What should be the cost?¿How many {r}?Red Ritual ¿?InstantAdd {r}Storm
>>97153094Avatar is somewhat fitting and has interesting mechanics. Marvel slop so far is gutter trash.
>>97153578kys
>>97153625Fuck you.
>>97153656come up with a less broken concept, shitter
>>97153578Are you retarded? It has a bunch of them already.Literally the first result from google searching "MTG rituals list".https://moxfield.com/decks/TgK_cTiPxE2dtXelm39j9ASacrifice yourself.
>>97153695I realise it's broken, but manamorphose is the main reason that storm is broken>>97153754Have you seen it has storm?
>>97153769>>97153578cost it at 23 mana
>>97153769Yes I saw your shitty card and it's stupid.
>>97153792theres a few cards that do dmg based on cmc probably better to leave it closer to 12
>>97153578Grape Shot mana with draw back
>>97151730I don't particularly care one way or another for Moon Girl but that is just bad art for her. She's looked perfectly fine in comics for the most part.
Since we're posting custom cards, is this playable?
>>97153831I thought of that, but I don't like it flavorwise. So I am between {r}{r}, {r}{r}{r} or {r}{r}{r}{r}
>>9715388223 mana
>>97151239It's Devil Dinosaur, and they can't go in Sonic, they have green.
>>97153904wew who cares
>>97148015>What keeps you interested in MTG at this point?It's still the best 1v1 card game regardless of how fucked up its become in recent years. I don't really care for new releases, I just draft decent sets like Tarkir Dragonstorm with my friends when, if, they come out.Its just fucking incredible to me how much the entire landscape of nerd media has shifted since the early 2010s. A man saying he liked the hot chicks from MTG or whatever video game was not a fucking fringe viewpoint when I was a teenager. It's crazy how much of a focus homosexuality and social justice has become in every piece of media. It makes it really hard to enjoy and it sucks me right out of the story when I see some weird 21st lesbian or tranny popping up in the place of what was once a necromancer, a wizard, a dragon, etc. I don't know how or why people defend it. It's bizarre how men even consume this shit without being bothered by it. And it's bizarre that men have allowed themselves to become so emasculated as to no longer express normal opinions like "I'm attracted to fit women in their 20s" or "I don't like cocks in my ass" or "I'd rather not chop my penis off".It's just truly bizarre. Not that the freaks in art school are obsessed with it, I get that. But that anyone else accepts it or goes along with the whole charade. Like, what?? What the heck? Who gave these people so much power? And why do we listen to a single thing they have to say?I just wanna see cool monsters, zombies, and the occasional beautiful sorceress or dark wizard, or cool knight.
>>97153936This is written like a reddit post.
>>971538794 cost draw 2 spells are ran in control decks. Only works as an instant though.>>97153882It should cost at least six mana if there's no draw back
>>97153960You're written like a reddit post
>>97148015>What keeps you interested in MTG at this point?I am struggling with this question. I don't really have an answer and that scares me. I have a hard time letting things go and I wonder if that is the only thing keeping me here.
>>97152623>is the avatar bundle worth 100€?If you want to get into Avatar specifically, yes.If you just want to get into commander in general the Foundations starter collection is the best deal and guarantees you much more commander staples.
>>97153990Dark ritual is already perfectly balanced no need to improve on it
>>97153936>to no longer express normal opinions like "I'm attracted to fit women in their 20s" or "I don't like cocks in my ass" or "I'd rather not chop my penis off".Most normal people dont need to express these things as they consider them normal enough to go without saying.
>>97149157Why do you think he got angry?
magic the gathering should get a zootopia UB
>magic the gathering should get a zootopia UB
>>97154285>Dedicated Furry set every yearI can see that happening
>After Trekkies, Waifufags, Animetards and Capeshit scum people is suggestin we should go after another of the worst groups out there: Furries.I rather see this game finally burn to ashes.
>>97153831It doesn't fit flavorwise with what I am designing, but I think that this is channel tier because life is disposable when you are using it to win.>>97153990I think pitching cards is the way to go, but as an additional cost so you only have to pay it once. 6 is a dead card unless you are comboing (with manamorphose).
>>97154315>I rather see this game finally burn to ashescoming right up!
>>97153990>discarding is a huge downside in stormare you retarded?
>>97150050I'm pretty sure magic was one of the most gate keepy games before Universe Beyond. Many players were turned away by how insufferable the players were that Wotc decided to focus on diversity and inclusion to increase player count.
leaked from power ranger UB
>>97154427Not as ridicules as actual cards.
Mods help the piggies are questioning Maro again
>>97154510Viashino was changed because it fits the scheme every other animal-person uses, Naga was changed because they never fucking used it. Alien is a catch-all, akin to Beast, but more specific ones will be used.
custom card fag here what would the correct wording be for a replacement effect that exchanges exile with destroy and vice versa?
>>97154588"If a permanent would be destroyed, exile it instead. If a permanent would be exiled, destroy it instead." You might need an "except by this card" rider though, I dunno if it works without that sort of thing.
>>97154579>Naga was changed because they never fucking used itYeah because Skrull will be used more often than Naga.Nice try Maro but we can smell your bagel and schmear from here.
>>97154588>Destroying things in hands>Destroying things in graveyards >All the "exile this and then do thing" nuke themselves You better scope it so it only works on the battlefield or you'll be drownings in weird interactions
>>97154612Well they plan to still use nagas, in Magic sets. But Naga was a poor type because it lacked synergy with Snakes, the Orochi in Kamigawa which were Naga-like were just Snakes and basically it's just Tarkir that has them. They're Snakes for the same reason Viashino are Lizards, broadly speaking.Conversely, Skrull exists to represent the IP. Same with Gamma. You can't really use an existing type to delineate between Hulk and others. You COULD maybe use just Alien Shapeshifter for all Skrulls, to be sure, but clearly they wanted to be a bit more specific. EOE, for example, didn't use the Alien type at all. One-offs will more likely be Aliens, but we'll see.
>>97154511nice to see Horsley at least
>>97154616Judge! What is the ruling for a destroy effect affecting a card that its not a permanent?
>>97154579>Naga was changed because they never fucking used it.kek
When's the Trek spoiler
>>97154687imagine if Spock end up being as strong as Vivi
>>97154634It makes no sense that they didn't consolidate dog/hound, coyote, jackal, and fox under this same logic (which I broadly agree with)
>>97151049>Is there a fried chicken in the card art?>Is there a KFC set?Yeah, you know what I mean
>>97154687March at the latest at this rate.
>>97154702We all know it will be diverse girl boss captain who breaks the format. How else would her fugly card sell?
>>97155188I doubt we’ll be getting any STD in that set since they officially took it out of Trek canon. It’ll be mostly TOS and TNG
>>97154799Yeah, that's a separate thing and more just an awkward inconsistency. I THINK Fox, Dog and Wolf being their own things at least sort of feels more correct, but Jackal and Coyote don't need to exist, especially when there's just one type for ALL felines.
>>97155188>>97155222It'll be apparently covering the entire franchise, but to what extent we don't know. I can see it being like 70-ish% TOS and TNG, with DS9 and VOY shoring up the rest and then a scattershot of all the rest. We'll get precisely one Lower Decks card. We may or may not get Kelvin Timeline stuff, though I doubt it.
>>97154588Kys
IM TOO MUCH OF A CHUD FOR MTGAHHHHHHHHHHHH! IT HURTS, IT ACTUALLY KINDA HURTS!
>>97154861Anon, they do that too. Most of the time you just don't recognize it because it's japanese companies and brands. The instant ramen card that anons make fun of in FF was in the game because of a Nissin cup noodles promotion. You don't even know what you mean.
>>97155413for me, it's all the KFC in Food Court de, Mata Ashita
>>97155764>>97155764>>97155764
Dios mio
>>97155188They can sell her by just making her a 5 color legendary for commander players that want all their Star Trek cards together.
>>97155299
