Why is it that so many fantasy writers make their evil cults unjoinable by anyone with a functioning brain cell? Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide? Why would you worship Tzeentch if he’s probably gonna screw YOU over as part of his grand plan?What makes it so bizarre to me is that, firstly, it’s not like they need to be so off-putting to be evil. Orcus is a demon of undeath, his followers want to turn their enemies into the undead. Tzeentch wants the world to be in a constant cycle of chaos, his followers are gonna be masterminding world wars.Secondly, it’s not like we don’t have plenty of examples of real-world evil cults. A lot of cults in the West don’t follow Super-Duper-Mega-Murder Satan, but are fucked-up offshoots of Christianity. Historically, goetia was practiced by people who would’ve still called themselves Christians, while committing rituals to summon and get boons from demons. Plenty of human cultures used to sacrifice humans to their gods, not to summon them to kill everyone or some shit, but to honor and/or appease them.Like to use another example from Warhammer, I think Nurgle and Khorne present more “approachable” evil cults. Nurgle is toxic positivity, and his love will take all the pain away. Khorne is wrapped up in enough language about honor to lure people in.Like to rework an evil deity, let’s pick Lamashtu. Instead of “We love ugliness and miscarriages and also you get to die in childbirth”, the cult targets vulnerable young women and lures them in with divine feminine language (“You have the power to bear and raise great beasts”), while promising the young men of monstrous races frustrated living among humans that what they’re scorned for is what makes them powerful (and also they get to have sex with pretty girls).
>>97160877I mean you're working with the knowledge of a top-down, near omniscient view of the setting. You don't know you're joining the cult of Mallomalus the all-hating or whatever, you're just some down on your luck schmuck who gets offered a place to stay in your time of need, a listening ear, maybe even some money to get you back on your feet again, if you'd just come meet some of my friends, we're having a get-together later this week...Basically how irl cults work, they don't spring the "the aliens are coming, the only way to save your family is to let me, the glorious prophet, sleep with your wife" shit on newcomers.
>>97160877You do have to remember, that even christianity at it's core is an apocalyptic cult of end of the world prediction, just one that's late. You are operating from top down view from outside, but really it will be same as most real cults, just you know, unlike real cults those cults can give you powers.
>>97160877"A line must be drawn between what is good and what is evil, for if the Great Enemy comes with offers of power to a wretch, what reason does he have to refuse hell if he dwells in it already?"
>>97160877You know how with Scientology, you're only supposed to learn about the whole "Lord Xenu" storyline once you've been with the cult long enough and given them enough money to be "worthy" of hearing it? And the only reason we have the ability to rightfully mock everything about it is because it was leaked by South Park and the rest of the internet?Same thing. Most of the really dark shit is reserved for people who are in too deep to just quit upon learning it. Nurgle cults don't introduce themselves as purveyors of disease and decay, they often start as "alternative medicine" ones. Khorne ones don't introduce themselves as death cults, they start as warrior brotherhoods. Tzeetchian cults are like ponzi schemes where you help someone with THEIR scheme on the premise that you get help with yours and eventually plan for someone else to be holding the hot potato of bad luck when it finally all comes crashing down. And Orcus's followers are often undead or people obsessed with the undead, so his crusade to end all of the living supposedly wouldn't include THEM since they're either anti-life or supportive of it.It basically boils down to either lying to their subordinates about their real motives, or convincing themselves that the evil shit that's about to occur has consequences for everyone else but themselves, really. Nevermind the possibility it could backfire, cause consequences are for losers and nerds, and you've been wronged enough in life to justify puling this shit onto someone else.
>>97160877Geniuses think alike, I thought the same but with the Trench Crusade setting: >>97160886
>>97160877mortals are mortalswhat happens 1000 years in the future is not your problemhelp out demon cult now and get immediate powermost demons don't start by immediately killing any mortal who was loyal to them as soon as they are successfully summoned.
>>97160877>Why would you worship Tzeentch if he’s probably gonna screw YOU over as part of his grand plan?At the very least for Warhammer's chaos gods, chaos influence pretty clearly reduces the number of functioning braincells you have.And that's usually a pretty common theme. Part of what makes evil gods so evil is that they're inducing madness and corruption and basically enslaving followers, because if they allowed their followers to truly choose freely they wouldn't have that many.
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>>97160877>Like to rework an evil deity, let’s pick Lamashtu. Instead of “We love ugliness and miscarriages and also you get to die in childbirth”, the cult targets vulnerable young women and lures them in with divine feminine language (“You have the power to bear and raise great beasts”), while promising the young men of monstrous races frustrated living among humans that what they’re scorned for is what makes them powerful (and also they get to have sex with pretty girls).yes this would probably be how the cult leaders/recruiters sound when they're talking to marks. The characters in the fiction don't have the encyclopedic objective birds eye view of the person reading a rulebook.Also don't underestimate the short-sighed retard's quest for power
There are people in our world who would strap C4 to themselves for their god (or at least the promise of afterlife virgins to bang); don't underestimate the stupidity humanity is capable of.
>>97161067Great post. I would add that the standard "evil cult" trappings in most fantasy media is an exaggeration of what it's like IRL when you meet someone who is deep in a cult, MLM, abusive relationship, etc. The unsettling feeling of meeting a seemingly intelligent person working against their own interests (and/or humanity's)
>>97160877Church of Satan exists IRL, Anon.
>>97160877>Why is it that so many nogames are unable to distinguish between in-universe fictional representation and our exterior consumer knowledge of a fictional universe?
>>97160877Cults aren't for players to join so none of these details matter. Their purpose is to provide guys wearing black and red robes with the humanoid creature type so that they can be affected by various spells that target that creature type. They also provide a convenient source of spellcasting foes. Loot tables can include minor magical items like enchanted daggers, and consumables like potions, scrolls, and wands. They may be supported by other monsters or undead to provide tactical variance.
>>97160877Why are you using Pathfinder and Warhammer (settings written by multiple authors) as your frame of reference?
>>97160877>"Better to be the right hand of the Devil than in his path"
>>97162688Not a good example. Church of Satan has nothing to do with real satanism.There are openly evil theistic satanist cults, such as Temple of Black Light or Order of Nine Angles. The latter even tried to recruit me to a local nexion about a decade ago, lol. One of my friends also had some interactions with them about 2 decades ago, which ended with his girlfriend being raped. He got his revenge soon by slowly breaking both of the legs and one arm of the local cell's leader responsible for that.
>>97160877>why do people join the suicide bomber death cult>everyone with a functioning brain can spent 5 minutes on the internet to see counless videos of brutal executions and their own people blowing themself up>they offer you a desert shithole, prayer cloth towels, no music, no cinema, no fun, only prayer>you will now declare war on the entire world, with a 95% chance of death Breaking news, people are gullible, vulnerable and fucking stupid. Why would ficitonal people be different?
>>97160877Traditional games?
>>97164853retard
>make a pact to Orcus for eternal life*>* - become undead>just have to sacrifice people to him from time to timeI don't know, seems like a good deal to me.
>>97164719So... GURPS?
>>97164933Fuck GURPS. I hate it with passion since the first and only one time I played it back in 2005.Too simulationist.
>>97164886>cant even answer a simple question>calls others retardednogames moment!
>>97164853This thread is fairly clearly about >lore secondaries of a wide variety and how the OP demonstrates the overlap between the autistic and those who are >lore obsessed. OP failed the sally ann test.
>>97160877Tzeentch gave me a sick ass pair of wings and the power to shoot lightning he’s cool in my book. Like these cults have actual real benefits, if I worship Orcus I get benefits from it.
>>97165773But how does it relate to his latest game session?
>>97160877>Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide?Ask the South Africans, maybe?
>>97164833What if ISIS is right and Yaweh smite us all for being wrong after death
>>97165817>how does lore secondary posting relate to their last game session?Is that not obvious? Its not. /tg/ is as much about /traditional gamers/ as it is about games. And lots of things are sold to people as game books that aren't going to see much use outside of bubblegum for the mind. Pretending to be retarded doesn't help whatever ideas you have about >board culture it just makes you more retarded until its not pretending anymore. If you wanted to point out problems with OP, do so clearly and succinctly, then move on with your day. Just shitting out a nothing response and waiting for dopamine isn't going to unfuck things.
>>97160877>life sucks, your a ugly nobody in a world people with superpowers and races who will live for a millenia>you can look forward to working a shitty job, have no social mobilty, marry a ugly wife (or none at all) and die unfulfilled while the local lord holds a feast with your taxes>fuck that shit>being ugly isnt so bad if everyone is a rotting corpse>also dont need to worry about your shitty health condition, your dead already>dont have to be scared of death, you´ll gonna live for eternity>orcus even grants you a sick ass warlock pact, so you can do magic>can get to fuck over all those well-off happy & beautiful people you have been seething about in envious rage>especially Chad who joined the paladin order and Stacy with her fucking Aasimar blood>gonna make them my zombie slaves and keep their tormented souls in gems around my neck, lmao>fuck yeah, where do i sign up?Why wouldnt you want to join the cult of Orcus?
>>97160877Because they don't care. They aren't trying to make a believable story, just an excuse for players to kill stuff to make their numbers go up.
>>97160877I can see people following Tzeentch. His cults tend to attract ambitious schemers who either believe their success is part if Tzeentch's plans or that they're clever enough to avoid any downsides. Plus worshiping him is the best way to learn sorcery, so if you want that it might feel like it's worth the risk.Really, for the average Chaos worshiper who doesn't just want to be a serial killer, Tzeentch is probably the best patron. Nurgle turns you into a rotting disease-ridden zombie, Slaanesh might be cool at first but eventually you become so desensitized that you'll have to resort to sorting ground up babies to feel anything, and Khorne wants you to become an axe-murderer. With Tzeentch, you'll be a microscopic part of his grand plans, but the odds are that you're so insignificant that what exactly happens to you doesn't really matter to him. Sure, it might be that he intends your cult to be discovered and wiped out as part of a long-term plan to cause some inquisitor to fall to Chaos, but it could also be that it's meant to happen a hundred years in the future, at which point you're already dead.
Why would I join Christianity is the all-encompassing eternal love of christ is no different than the absolute annihilation of the desert? Why shoulld I consider becoming plasma to be a form of moral dessert?
>>97166142traditional games?
>>97165773That pic implies Sally would look in her basket. But she sees Anne near the baskets. Depending on how Anne behaved in the past, Sally could know that Anne always does this shit, so her first look would be in Annes Basket.
>>97166252Pelor worship is a heliocentric death-cult.
>>97166142Because it is about love.
>>97164833I mean that actually sounds kind of cool. You're telling me I get a break for the overwhelming nature of society AND get to die in battle AND get 72 waifus in the afterlife?
>>97164833IS recruited by telling 2nd gen immigrant incels they were fighting against degeneracy and promising sex slaves and loot
>>97160877Because it's fantasy you autist.
>>97164853what about them?
>>97160982To be fair, only a handful of rich sociopaths are actively trying to bring about the end times. The reason Christians are supposed to believe in Armageddon is because they DON'T know when it's going to happen, so it incentivizes them to spend every day doing things pleasing to God so that He won't find them wanting when the end comes.
>>97166274Why on earth did you have that image handy?
Using evil vs good absolutes is already a childish fictional idea. Why would they try to make it somehow believable?
>>97168231>making it like we can observe the world we live in to be is a childish fictional idea
One imagines Chaos cults in 40k take many forms and we just don't see shit outside the super extreme "The mask's off and the planet's going to be destroyed by the end of the month" stuff much due to fuck all exploration of Imperial citizen life. You can think of all sorts of on-the-ground cult premises that aren't OH MIGHTY KHORNE, DROWN LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN BLOOD AND KILL US ALL extremism.The Nurgle cult of old divorcees/people after bad breakups- wallow in your despair, you're good enough as you are, don't listen to any bullshit about improving yourself or changing anything... just wallow with us, let us lick your wounds!Shit like that, it doesn't have to be in the name of the god, or when it is, it can be with an interpretation that puts a lot of spin on him. Tired of your stagnating society in an empire without hope? Have you considered old Tzeentch, the god of hope?
>>97168258Take your meds, anon, your political bogeyman might be a dickhead but he's not really Satan.
>live on some shithole backwater world of no real importance>even the Black Ships can barely be bothered to swing by for their routine collections>terrible famine a few years back that we still haven't really recovered from, and the tithe really isn't helping>at least we need not worry about the wider world- we're unimportant, but we're nonetheless under the protection of our benevolent and mighty Emperor!>Nobody will ever bother invading us for any reason, and our PDF's pretty good. The Administratum'll send us some relief crops from another Agri-World sometime soon, we'll have no worries at all!>There was a rebellion, some disgruntled governor seized some farmland, the farmers got mad and tried to overthrow him, he struck back with the best muscle he could buy and started taxing us out the ass>Soon, families are having to play whose turn is it with the empty plate today?>The Emperor will protect us>A year later, more people have died of starvation and related illness than being killed by Governor Dickweed's goons>We've tried reaching out to the PDF, they're on the take>We've tried the Arbites and gotten nowhere>E-Emprah protects>months later, my wife dies>seems like she took a bit of the kids with her>not the first family this year, won't be the last>Governor Dickweed is fat now and rumours abound of his Amasec collection>Local wildlife has been getting out of control- famine's affecting them, too, and we don't have the resources to cull them as much as we used to>eventually, there's an incident, a stampede of the things charging into town, destroying everything in sight>swear I saw the Enforcers just watching the bedlam and waiting for the beasts to tire themselves out>swear I saw one cowering from a bolting Grox>everyone on this planet's a pussy>but the Emperor isn't protecting anyone>nobody's defending us>gotta look out for ourselves>We should take pride in killing our own enemies.>We don't need Imperial support.>Khorne's got our back.
>>97160877I think where this comes from generally is>I cannot imagine why people in real life disagree with me politically or religiously, except that they are moron sociopaths who hate the very concept of life itselfapplied to fictional people.
I think HPL did a good job with he idea.His cults are eithera) degenerates, probably mentally ill, that are there because they have no sense of right and wrong and nothing to lose or to gain beyond a night of debauchery (Call of Cthulhu)b) Isolated fuckers that need the cult to stay alive because people would exterminate them if they got caught (The Shadow Over Innsmouth)Not really much "yes, I freely and toughtfully considered omnicide" guys.
>>97160877Here's your answer
>>97160982>You do have to remember, that even christianity at it's core is an apocalyptic cult of end of the world prediction, just one that's late.Redditer tier deduction
>>97160877As the world gets crazier, the absurd cults of fiction begin to make more and more sense. People are desperate, and when every other avenue is against you, it's easy to see some people turn to the only side that doesn't outwardly hate them. >Join the Circle of Orcus, o weary, broken soul, death has taken everything from you, but you can be the judge and decide who gets to live or die. >Join the Disciples of Tzeentch, we will teach you ways to reverse your debt, and strike back at your enemies financially>Tired of the Empire stealing every scrap of joy you have in this world? Join the Cult of Mehrunes Dagon, and we will usurp their throne. >The Jedi are weak, they are shrouded in conspiracy, delve into politics, and betray everything they taught you. Become my apprentice, and I will show you the ways of the Sith, and what the world is hiding from you. The problem is never joining the cult, it's frankly an easy sell. It's what happens within the cult, and exploiting it's members after the honeymoon period.
>>97165998No. Stop making off-topic posts. Don't argue.
>>97168231Nope, morality is absolute.
>>97163795/thread.
>>97168714It's interesting because that's hardly relevant to the issue at hand.Even assuming it is, it doesn't mean the individual X in absolutely good or absolutely evil - just that acts are absolutely and universally valued in a scale of good vs evil, not even that there are only two values, 1 being good and 0 being evil.
>>97168789Nope, everyone is either completely good or completely evil.
>>97160877Honestly anon this guy >>97164719 is right. There are mentally ill or fucked up people irl who are already willing to join a nihilistic cult that commits evil for its own sake. Hell the wikipedia page mentions a publication that called for them to seek spiritual arousal from rape. That's on top of all the other secretive fucked up cults that present themselves as good on the exterior. If people are willing to be this comically evil in real life for funsies, imagine how much more common it'd be in a world where they can unironically get a deity's approval by doing it.
>>97164719>Church of Satan has nothing to do with real satanismSo it's a corruption of satanism? It's an evil cult to an evil cult?The CoS sure seems to be doing everything it can to oppose Christianity. Just because they're not sacrificing virgins doesn't mean they're not doing evil.
>>97166134>Slaanesh might be cool at first but eventually you become so desensitized that you'll have to resort to sorting ground up babies to feel anythingI know it's a typo, but grinding up babies just to meticulously separate the dust afterwards is still some proper Slaaneshi obsessive bullshit.
>>97161067This is correct. I'm so very fucking tired of this topic coming up and a post like this having to be made every single time to inform an idiot that no, your character does not have privileged outsider's knowledge on institutions or entities in a setting.
>>97169443It's mostly just for weird dudes and ugly fat chicks to have sex and piss off dad. It's evil, I guess, but not 'eat babies for the devil' evil.
>>97165892He'd already smite me for not mutilating my dick, might as well have some fun while I'm still alive.
>>97168141That image was obviously drawn on the fly by the anon you replied to.
>>97170499more people should do that, regardless of technical skill.
>>97169443>So it's a corruption of satanism? It's an evil cult to an evil cult?Its not evil, its stupid childish contrarianism wearing the veneer of evil.A bunch of angsty atheists trying to stick it to the man by impersonating the boogeymen of the Satanic Panic.I say this as a non-believer of the Abrahamic faiths.
>>97160877Most cultists are indoctrinated, and don't see reason because they're blinded with religious fervor that would sooner see them dead than realizing they're the crazy ones.
>>97160877>Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide?Same reason you'd watch a firework, train wreck, or dumpster burning >Why would you worship TzeentchThis is just straight up retarded. Not only is this a very meta outlook and one that ignores the fact that tzeentch is just a likely to unscrew you as screw you, it also ignores his whole MO of constantly dangling the carrot in front of you
there are discord terrorist groups that blackmail children the y found on roblox into self mutilation for no gain
>>97160877Lamashtu was specifically reenvisioned in the remaster, such that she is a vaguely more acceptable goddess.https://2e.aonprd.com/Deities.aspx?ID=287>Edicts bring power to outcasts and the downtrodden, indoctrinate others in Lamashtu’s teachings, make the beautiful monstrous, reveal the corruption and flaws in all things>Anathema attempt to change that which makes you different, provide succor to Lamashtu’s enemies>Areas of Concern aberrance, monsters, and nightmaresShe is Society-legal, even.
>>97160877There is some truth to this. The most insidious cults (and scams, truth be told) specifically try to recruit people who will believe the most retarded shit at face value. They intentionally try to filter out skeptics and critical thinkers who might be problems down the line right in the recruiting process.
>>97168141This >>97170499>>97170567Thx. It was just for fun.
>>97160877Don't cults specifically target the weak-minded and unreasonably credulous in real life? Not to mention, they rarely jump straight into the blood-sacrifice and stuff right off the bat, instead, and usually gull them in with much more innocuous practices to slowly warp their morality until they ARE the kind of frothing human-sacrificing lunatics willing to do any horrible thing regardless of its utility.
>>97170887Paizo can say whatever they like, I don't think there's any getting away from the fact that she's the patron demon goddess of mutants, bestiality, and monstrous pregnancy.
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>>97168700Have you tried reporting the posts as off topic and seeing what the response is?
>>97160877Because killing them and taking their shit is more fun and easily justifiable if they're also comically evil. Simple as.
>>97160877Most of these scenarios are native snake and skull cults taken from the point of view of European Christian explorers and missionaries that saw them as nothing but savages worshiping demons. But extra exaggerated for a fantasy scenario so their magic is real as well as the demon monster they are worshiping. Most did not think of themselves that way.Also missionaries had the impression that any worship of any kind that was not officially recognized part of the church, was Satan worship every time no exceptions. So they always wrote home that any weird cults doing things had to be demon possessed Satan worshipers. So those scenarios made for interesting fantasy scenarios when people were writing up villain plots for games. Except 40K Ruinous powers cults, majority of that is more psychic enslavement from extremely powerful psychic beings coercing people into joining, toying with their emotions and inhibitions until they think they want to join and like being there, or outright turning them into braindead thrall cultists and reprogramming their brains to be perfect minions in the cult. They are treated like a virus for a reason.
>>97160877>A lot of cults in the West don’t follow Super-Duper-Mega-Murder Satan, but are fucked-up offshoots of Christianity.But there is the problem, the missionaries and priests that were the literate ones that did all the writing and recording of history in most of these places did see those groups as outright worshiping Satan. Any worship activity that was not directly Church sponsored was Satan worship because their universe was an either/or situation with nothing in between. So when some wacky math cult was found out, it was recorded in the town history that the soldiers of God uncovered an evil demon infested, witch cult of Satan worshipers who is clearly behind the measles outbreak that killed several children last winter. The local culture gets another example of some weird underground cult that for seemingly some weird reason decided to start worshiping plague demons. It didn't make sense back them but it appeared to be something that happened from time to time.
Same reason why in some ancient cultures some evil deites worshiped. To have chance to please them and then have chance to awoid bad shit is happen. Gods of bad weather, illnes and other bad staff.
>>97160877Is it really that weird that low level fucking nobody dirt peasants would do any weird fucked up thing to have some measure of social mobility while living in a world full of not just wealthy elite nobles, but wealthy elite nobles that also happen to have amazing godlike powers, immortality, favor of gods, might be gods in disguise, and every other reasonably higher level person in society also has some kind of amazing magical superpowers?Fred the stables shit raker, son of Ned the stable shit raker who died at the ripe old age of 31, might just want to be able to conjure fire from his fingertips too. Snorri the sheepshagger told him there is a meeting over by the old bridge that promises powers to lowlies too if they are loyal enough. Might be worth a look.
>>97166134I thought Slaanesh turns you into Carl after a while
>>97173172>>97173151I’m well aware, when I say “fucked up Christian-offshoots” I mean like the Fundamentalist Mormons, Jonestown, the Silent Brotherhood, etc.
>>97173217people really underestimate the mind boggling inequality in your average fantasy world. This isnt just the average gap of rich vs poor. You are a poorfag working your ass off while over there is a 400 year old elf who outcompetes you in literally everything, next to a 200 year old dwarf who will fuck you in every trade imaginable, next to a wizard who can warp reality and travel the cosmos, next to some Aasimar who has the spark of literal angels in his blood, next to some cleric who can work miracles that put even modern day medicine to shame. The gap between you, the average guy in your average village with a average farm and a meager average pay and all the rest of the world is so utterly gigantic, you would realistically see guys like Karl Marx championing the little guy pop up on a daily basis. The rich own the means of production? Bitch, the rich in your average fantasy world own everything, down to your bloody soul and immortal afterlife.
>>97173239Pretty much. The entry-level stuff is pretty tame, orgies and minor fetishes, but after the first few mutations, you have to do some genuinely depraved shit to get your twisted physiology hot and bothered.
You don't typically reason your way into service of an evil cult. Bunch of stories involve someone falling to their worst impulses, rage, despair, etc.If anything, it's a feature. What good would a preacher of the way of Orcus be if you could dialogue-choice him out of it? They want their chaff broken and beyond the reach of words.
>>97172841>Implying the mods know shit about their jobs and there would not be celebration even among posters who hate each other if they all combusted
>>97166007Love it.Petty revenge for imagined slights is the best way to do cultists and warlocks.
>>97160877>Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide?Because he knows the secrets that turn a man into a lich. You worship Orcus to become a lich. Once you're a lich, you're either Orcus's slave forever (because liches who become liches through his power are enslaved to him) or you stole the secrets and ran and no longer worship Orcus because now you're a lich and you can do whatever you want.
>>97160877>Why would you worship Tzeentch if he’s probably gonna screw YOU over as part of his grand plan?You answered your own question further down your post. He does not advertise his cults with the eventual betrayal, but with the knowledge and power you might get. And mages or anyone really who is interested in unlimited knowledge thinks himself to be smart enough to outwit tzeentch. It's like this in all cults really, they start small and you actually gain power, but there is a certain point of no return of course, but nobody tells you this from the start and in-game/in-universe knowledge is far more limited than what we discuss right now.
>>97160964This. Why would anyone be stupid enough to join Scientology or similar sects and give them all their money.. oh wait, people actually do that.
>>97166682>promising sex slaves and lootIn all fairness, they also delivered
>>97173598at least for the ones that proved at least somewhat useful, the others got the "honor" of blowing themselves up
>>97172390>1e
>>97166134Nurgle is probably the most successful because unlike the other gods he has evangelists instead of just temptations or predilections. And he offers something a huge number of people would genuinely want: no more pain, no more suffering. The rotting and disease and such only happen once the cultist stops being human. So the cultists themselves are mostly normal people during their day to day life, and might even look happier than normal. Tzeentch cultists look like were on heroin, Slaanesh cultists currently are on heroin, and Khorne cultists look like they need heroin to deal with the pain they're in.Nurgle for me dawg
>>97164833What weirds me out is that girls actually went there to be sex slaves. Like Shamina Begum went there with her friends to be fucked by ISIS fighters. I don't even know what she got out of it.
>>97166007The gods are young and dumb in the grand scheme of things, and any tale of them being the originator of creation is a lie. The afterlife is a lie, it can fade away or get destroyed in cosmic reboots, and the multiverse has had several cosmic reboots. Reality is silly puddy and nothing really matters, nothing except POWER! If you are strong you can outlive the petty gods, can even outlive the cosmic reboots and go further beyond. Who cares if liches destroy souls when they need to eat? Like I already stated, the gods and afterlife are all a lie. You're doing them a favor by sending them to the great nothingness by consuming their soul, otherwise they might have become some tortured ghost or a demon. Lich is the ONE TRUE PATH! It just makes sense.
>>97160877>Like why would you worship Orcus, whose goal is omnicide?Plenty of real people value such a goalhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Palm_Springs_fertility_clinic_bombing
>>97161286This.
>>97164719This entire thread is all about how cults major evil goals are hidden from the public who are too stupid to realize it. > Church of Satan has nothing to do with real satanism.They literally have the name above the doorframe, and we still have idiots saying, "It's not real Satanism". So yeah, people are idiots who join cults regularly. Even when it is blatantly obvious.
