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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What was the best set from 2025?

https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3dANNyA
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Baited by thumbnail into reposting.
>I cooked this piece of crab. Hand control with hand size burn and some wheels. Casting Windfall into a Narset or Consphinx is pretty funny.
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>>97164033
>What was the best set from 2025?
You have to say Avatar or Final Fantasy. Otherwise the youtubers are gonna getcha
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>>97164047
Aetherdrift got me doing the griddy frfr
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>>97164076
no cap? Sheeesh
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Post dicks. I mean decks
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>>97164047
>You have to say Avatar or Final Fantasy. Otherwise the youtubers are gonna getcha
OP here. I feel like I can't judge Innistrad well for whatever reason. I think vampires are kind of cringe, but it looks like a decent enough set. Is it all reprints? So I guess my ratings from best to worst are:

Tarkir
Final Fantasy
""Edge"" of """Eternities"""
Innistrad
Avatar
Aetherdrift
Spiderman

This is the objectively correct list right?
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>>97164033
>What was the best set from 2025?
Objectively or me personally?
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>>97164114
If your opinion isn't objectively correct I will let you know
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Y'all a crabs in a bucket and I got Old Bay Seasoning. Maybe even some Zatarans'. Fuck it.
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>>97164107
Reposting cuz eh literally killed by captcha last time
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>>97164111
You could argue FF beats Tarkir because it didn’t introduce any new mechanics to the game (out of curiosity when was the last time a main set did this?) and it was a very fun set, but it is UB. Tarkir is still a very good plane and Dragonstorm was a great set except for Abzan fans so I agree this is objectively correct.
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>>97164107
Still need to take an updated picture of this and take one of some of my others but I am a Selesnya Slopper for life.
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>>97164046
Red Death was my first commander when I got back into edh/magic. I twinked out my deck to try and beat my friends' sweatpiles. I have 2 Izzet decks now, want a 3rd. Heres my critique:

> Reinterpret
Ive never had much luck with this card. I think holding 4 mana up for interaction is just always too much to ask.

> Dream Fracture
Also not a huge fan of this. I wouldnt pay 3 mana to counter a spell either. Arcane Denial is just so much better. Id run a niche counterspell over this (Remove Soul?)

> 39 lands
My brother in christ your commander is a mana dork. Try acting like a red mage and cut some lands for more cards that get you(r combo) off

Razorkin Needlehead
Scrawling Crawler

I personally love Treasure Cruise, Galvanic Iteration, Faithless Looting, Chasm Skulker

Since the goal is to ramp on 2, you should have more 4-drops. Exalted Flamer if you have one. Galazeth Prismari. Urza
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>>97164107
My strongest deck.
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>Left: Dedicated "sexy" UW woman, released around once a year, if that
>Right: The average looking UB woman
Why am I supposed to hate UB again?
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>>97164188
Reddit comments are gooning hard about the fat ugly elf calling her shit like dommy mommy- but when it's a card with an actual hot girl, everyone goes out of their way not to comment on the girl's appearance and people who do get dog piled and mass down voted for "sexualizing objectification" and "muh male gaze"
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>>97164203
>a card with an actual hot girl
Got some examples?
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>>97164164
> Coveted Prize
outrageously based
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How based is The wise Mothman really.
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>>97164213
Firebending Student and her alt arts.
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>>97164203
>>97164213
Remember the time the official mtg subreddit banned the the alt art for crimson vow Olivia Voldaren cause it was too sexy?
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>>97164223
I don't believe you
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97164230
I have a screencap fuckin' somewhere but my folder's a goddamn mess. Give me a moment.
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>>97164130
>>97164164
And my weakest of barely bracket 2 jank piles.

I originally didn't want to include any FIRE design cards but after playtesting, like Phil Leotardo, I compromised. I also realized General Jarkeld is a non-combo with my banding guys, and he'spretty weak despitehaving cool art and a weird ability. Both Odrics, Adeline, Darien and even Cho-Manno would all be better commanders. I guess it can be one of those decks with rotating generals, where I change it up depending what I feel like playing.
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>>97164243
wypipo be like
I want to run banding tribal
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>>97164188
Because you aren't 13 and ruled by your dick
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Post your playmats.
>it's Yotsuwinner
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>>97164267
>Lays out HIS gay playmat
>Sets down HIS gay deck
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what's an actually fun aura commander?
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>>97164223
>>97164230
>>97164240
Found it
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cedh is not fun it's just watching somebody masturbate for an hour
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>>97164290
none
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>>97164309
The only cedh decks that take an hour to combo out are gitrog monster and krark/sakashima, and those decks are bracket 4 at best, though still sometimes played at cEDH tables by people who don't keep up with the meta.
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>>97164107
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wish I could find a proper pedh group
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>>97164188
>Forgetting the trash that was LotR, Doctor Who, etc.
The Nips are very protective of their IPs. The only reason FF girls are pretty is because Squenix held a gun to the back of Hasbro and WotC’s head and wouldn’t have hesitated to pull the trigger if the artists even dared to make the characters different without their express approval.
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It actually works. Took a while to get it to come out clean but I just need to make sure the temperate is right and remember to flour the stamp as well.

https://moxfield.com/decks/UuUQso5NAkapiKWPoqiiWA
If anyone wants to judge me that is my deck. Bernard is probably the best card in the game with so many different ways to build him. I took a different route than all the other decks I've seen and the goal is mostly to spam tokens. Winning is a secondary goal that would probably only happen from someone letting Biovisionary hit the table. Main goal is just to make cookie tokens and as many as I can. If anyone has any suggestions I am open to them as the entire 99 of the deck is proxy made. As I won't spend all that money on a goofy deck where I use a cookie trays a play mat.
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>>97164350
You are going to make a great Trans Wife someday
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>>97164360
Real american hours
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>>97164372
Magic is for Everyone
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>>97164337
Both Who and Lotr even attractive women, unlike the vast majority of modern UW sets.
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>>97164350
I would've gone for making chocolates first, but cookies are good too.
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>>97164360
Baking gingerbread is a masculine job. The Gingerbead Guild was mostly men because of how tough the dough is it required a lot of strength that most women didn't have.
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>>97164388
> Hes not attracted to orcs
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>>97164337
You don't know how contracts work
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>>97164434
>WotC went to Squenix
I know from that info alone that Squenix were the ones who dictated the terms. I just still wonder how much seething occurred from WotC’s usual artists who got sidelined for FF.
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>>97164434
"we get to choose how you depict our characters" seems like a pretty standard baseline for a contract dude.
It's just that for a few of the UW IPs, the owners either don't care as long as they're getting paid (LotR, sadly) or or actively in favor of "the message" (Dr Who)
And we KNOW that the other company is the one who ultimately calls the shots since Konami put the kibosh on the monster hunter secret lair that was supposed to be coming soon and forced WotC to go back to the drawing board.
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>>97164218
He's the same boring play pattern as any +1/+1 commander, but you trick yourself into thinking he has more going on because of the mill aspect.
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>>97164218
Depends on how you build it because its more of a proliferate deck with mill sprinkled in
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>>97164468
Imagine living in the timeline where Capcom gives more of a fuck about their image than WotC despite WotC having lying fuck Mark blog about the game literally every day.
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>>97164477
Fuck. I thought Monster Hunter was Konami for some reason.
Still, yeah, it's fucking weird. Not sure what the actual cause of the redo was. Maybe the art wasn't up to snuff, or maybe they didn't like that wizards seemingly drew cards out of a hat for what'd be included.
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I updated my mono-black lifedrain deck a bit, what do you guys think?
https://moxfield.com/decks/4yGOAP2Ey0-BQ-iljS7cCg
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>>97164523
Can't afford a coffers/diet coffers?
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>>97164469
>>97164470
what about the cedh uber rads combo.
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>>97164292
I see it, but I still don't believe it. I've seen more cleavage on sesame street.
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>>97164523
what's wrong, can't afford torment of hailfire?
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>>97164527
Yeah you're right i should get that and Urborg some time.

>>97164557
Hmm yes that would be a good buy too, maybe next month i'll add it.
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>>97164523
Where is your Demonic tutor. Can't afford it?
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>>97164572
Yes :(
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>>97164573
oh
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>>97164563
Also add Nykthos to your list since you're sorta devotion farming.
I also have a mono B, sorta lifedrain deck and outside of Rogue's passage, I'd run all the same nonbasics as you if you got those three. Namely cause that's really all you need in terms of nonbasics in mono B. Not sure why I don't have a rogue's passage in though... I think I might not have had one on hand when I was retooling the deck a year or so ago.
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stop ignoring me and give me big nosed creatures in mono black card art. you can't silence me from building the exile oven führer for goblins and whatever else there is that fits the bill
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>>97164578
Ah yeah Nykthos would be great too, I put it on my list of stuff to get.
And yes Rogue's Passage is really helpful, i like using it in anything that doesn't just go extremely wide.
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>>97164188
>actual womyn vs sameface #2305982375
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>>97164620
>unique flavors of ugliness vs 1 flavor of beauty
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>>97164563
with 35 swamps you dont really need urborg
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>>97164594
what are you, 12?
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>>97164668
what are you, reddit? don't yuck my yum!
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Do all of the effects that let you turn a card face up work even if you didn't cast them face down using their ability but turned them by some other way?
Morph, disguise, and similar effects.
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>>97164675
Sounds like the answer was "Yes, I am 12"
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>>97164675
your yums are shit
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>UB slop comes out
>don't you HECKING yuck my yum!
>EXCEPT when it's your's. now it's acceptable to discriminate
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>>97164774
?
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>>97164329
>Azula
cringe
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>>97164790
don't yuck my yum!!
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>>97164790
>cringe
dude 2014 was ten years ago. get new content. Be like the esl anon and just call everyone a troon a billion times in a row.
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>>97164329
Image for ants
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>>97164799
>don't you dare yuck my yum!!
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>>97164799
cringe is timeless, you yumless yuck
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Aaaah fuck the slop fomo got me
ordered a chocobo bundle for 20$ more than retail and I know ill get about 15.42 in card value Ill actually make use of.
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I want a Temur Snow Commander, but from the design team of ten years ago
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>>97164203
>dommy mommy
How pathetic
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>>97164290
Uril. Nothing better than punching things. Just beware the edicts.
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>>97164434
You're retarded
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>>97164468
This shit just makes lotr even more fucking embarrassing, whoever owns the ip doesn't give a fuck about the integrity of it, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten whatever happened in mtg or with rings of power
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>>97165048
Damn never seen this card before and I love it. You've reminded me I was inspired to make a viking themed deck after my latest Amon Amarth binge, I better get back on that
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Why isn't this more popular?
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>>97165288
Maybe people don't like Dimir.
Maybe people don't like graveyard strategies.
Maybe people don't like the once per turn clause.
Maybe people don't like playing Final Fantasy cards.
Maybe people don't like all of these things at once.
I don't know.
It is a mystery.
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>>97165354
>people don't like Dimir
Yeah there is a lot of UB hate rn
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>>97165354
>Maybe people don't like graveyard strategies
Yeah I'm sure that's the reason
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>>97165099
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>>97165398
I'm just making uneducated guesses, posing possible answers. It's 8:30 AM, I'm slightly hung over and I'm bored.
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>>97165354
once per turn in this case is completely ok. that still nets you 4 times you can cheat timing restrictions on sorceries per rotation
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>>97165445
Hm, interesting observation, I hadn't thought of that.
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>>97165288
i have an Ancient One reanimator deck, he basically serves as a 8/8 for some power matters synergy, never activated his ability.
i wonder if Emet would be a good replacement, if i only rely on combat damage made by opponents in their turn, so i can instant speed reanimate, or if that would just make my opponents stop attacking
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>>97165467
wtf is this card
>I'm gonna enchant that spell in your graveyard
>ok, put your aura into my graveyard
>no, put your instant on the board and I put my aura on it
>no, my instant is not changing zones, it stays in the graveyard
>bro wtf
>no fuck you
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>>97165445
>once per turn in this case is completely ok
Many such cases
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>>97165048
>>97165065
Funny how the best commanders are from before they designed for commander.
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>>97165496
>never activated his ability.
... Are you nuts
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>>97165498
Future Sight was a cool set.
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>>97165511
They're absolutely not
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>>97165506
yes, this would probably go infinite on cast with a fat stack of cards
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>>97165511
>>97165529
I suppose that's reliant on what definition of "best" we are using, no?
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>>97165521
I miss it. It was proof they can actually innovate
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>>97165467
>>97165521
love this fucking frame, it screams 00s
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>>97165521
Perfect for me
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>>97165553
They redid some old cards in it recently
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you WILL fight
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>>97165542
>>97165553
>>97165568
I hated when Mystery Booster 2 brought it back simply because it looked cool instead of what it represented.
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>>97165570
you WILL goad, I think you mean
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>>97165577
Sorry to be clear when I said this>>97165542
I meant the card design not the frame. That frame is terrible to read. Though admittedly it brings back some nostalgia because future sight was fun
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>>97165577
Kek wasn't this mechanic known as backstabbing during the great designer search? Maro hated it, kek. Glad it made it into a card
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>>97165601
The placement of the mana cost is a little awkward I guess, but other than that, I think it reads fine. I wouldn't want it as a full-time replacement either though.
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>>97165609
I have never heard that story if it is true.
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>>97165621
The fact that they didn't bring it back for times spiral remastered is soulless
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>>97165288
Ub
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>Monoblue can't gain li-
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>>97165621
Sadly it seems the original article is removed from their website, but I found people talking about the designs on leddit
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>>97164164
>my strongest deck
>monolith commander
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I also found this gem from the great designer search
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>>97165693
Demo is gone
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>>97165703
Black-Green my ass, this is White-Black if anything.
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>>97165670
we got ourselves a bussin combo for mono u
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>>97165703
Yeah, no one in their right mind of magic would think that. Flying with vigilance is white blue 99% of the time. Holy shit I hate current magic
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>>97165730
My retarded friend thought that this meant it applied in all zones
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>>97165735
>current
yeah the colorwheel hasn't been a thing since archelos was conceived. the designer straight up admitted it
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>>97164350
Source on the stamp used to make these? I have a friend who plays Brenard, would make a good christmas gift for him
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>>97165759
Of course the color wheel is a thing! You see, red has to discard before it draws, and blue has to draw before it discards.
That's it. That's the color wheel.
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>enter LGS
>only one free pod with the dreadful german
>can already smell the kraut farts from standing at the entrance
>consider turning around and leaving
> shouts "hallo froin! sits 'ere!" while waving his stiff arm like he's greeting hitler himself
>try to tell him not today, just here to buy some shit
>"nine nine, sitz meet uncs, cone shawn!"
>literally pulls me into the pod
>brings out his mardu groupslug/burn yet
>"shwanz vice rrrot haha"
>doesn't stop farting while playing
>literally getting gassed and cremated at the same time by a kraut
>stumble out of the store half an hour later, gagging and coughing
I fucking hate my city and I hate germans
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>>97165885
based kraut allowing anon to play his favorite game
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>>97165691
Cont:
I always remembered backstab because what was notable about it to me was that it was such a simple idea but Maro hated it and the other designers loved it
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>>97164290
I enjoy Yenna, your mileage may vary
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>>97164203
>That elf
>Fat
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>>97165288
Kess gives you access to red and doesn't require setup for the pesudo-flashback
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>>97165288
The real limitation is "instant or sorcery" only. People doing graveyard things don't like that stifling. So instead they play Muldrotha, because Muldrotha is far more free.
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We had a silly end to our game this week. I was playing Velomachus focused on boardwipes, and I was facing off against an Isshin, Torbran, and Narfi, who had a lot of effects that forced the sacrifice of permanents e.g. Smokestack, so between he and I not much stayed on board for long.
After about an hour and a half, Narfi and I were both at 3 life, he had a decent number of lands whilst I had a couple and some treasures, and the other two had basically no permanents. I had nothing useful in my hand and was ready to concede, but I topdecked a slagstorm and cast it, killing both myself and the Narfi player, so the match was then between two people with almost nothing going on between them. The Torbran player won in the end, the Isshin player didn't get enough land drops to do anything meaningful.
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>>97166045
Kess it gives you only one spell per round while Emet gives 4
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>>97165001
CONSUME
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>>97165065
This is a Sigarda lite, nice grabbing it for my enchantment deck
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>>97166078
In order to do that, you have to reliably get your opponents to lose life, which requires either additional setup on your part to proactively engage, or your opponents forgetting your board state.

Think of it this way. With Kess, if she survives a rotation, I can double-up on my Demonic Tutor immediately for the price of a Diabolical. Before my combat starts, I am threatening to end the game on the spot. If the first one is countered, I can recast it for no additional setup and pivot my gameplan, so often my opponents will just hold up the counter for whatever I tutor for, which I prefer since it allows me time to accumulate my own counters since the game is now on my pace (especially since, and this is a huge one, if I want I can double-up a counterspell on a later turn). The only chance they have to kill Kess and disrupt me after I cast D-tutor is while D-tutor is on the stack. (If that fails, I can always just play Underworld Breach.)
With Emet, if I cast a D-tutor, the state is similar, except your opponents have a bigger window to disrupt it. In order to use the effect, you're either investing an additional card to force a lifeloss, or you're betting on one of your creatures connecting (presumably one of the other ones, since he lacks evasion). This gives your opponents a huge window to respond to your coordinated gameplan, and if they counter your D-tutor, then you're not even guaranteed a cast!

I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying that the setup required is limiting when there's other commanders that immediately let you get a cast with more potential flexibility.
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>>97165885
If it wasn't for the farting dude sounds like a cool guy. Im in Utah and play with Mormon's often, buncha pussys
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>>97164350
Extremely based
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>>97166201
Yeah I got what you're saying for sure. He certainly requires more setup than less and you have to shift your deck to build around it. I guess I see the potential in Emet more because of what you gain
The discount is nice of course but I'm really intrigued by the timing window allowing you to board wipe on your opponent's turns for example

Everything you said is valid though and definitely things to take into concern when building the deck.

He's definitely more interruptible than Kess. I think the way I'm viewing it is that Emet has a higher floor but also a higher ceiling
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>>97166306
I don't know if he has a higher ceiling based entirely on him lacking access to red. There's also the other thing where if his effect is procing every turn for a rotation, you both have spells in your graveyard and your opponents are consistently losing life, which signals a win-more state to me.

He's still interesting, though, and I'll probably pick up one to slot in the 99 for one of my decks.
I would be a dickhead with him, if I were running him at the helm, and make the deck about cloning Orcish Bowmasters or some other punishment creature instead of toolbox.
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>>97166360
>>97166306
Having said that, I do now kind of want to brew a Pox/Stax-lite build with him since, even though he seems too unreliable for a spellslinger/toolbox, there are a lot of pox/edict effects that I don't necessarily care about doubling-up on and don't warrant an immediate answer, but would be annoying for the table to deal with on their turn, and since incremental lifeloss would be the gameplan I wouldn't need to have too much of the deck's focus shift to turning itself online.
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I want to get Europeans thoughts as well, do you guys have experience playing as or against any of these commanders? Looking to build Temur and wanna know which one is most fun
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>>97166459
Try Loot the Pathfinder
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>>97164350
Oh shit, the mad man actually actually made the cookie tokens.
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>>97166451
Yeah truthfully I've never gotten the spell slinger to work before so it's pretty hard for me to evaluate what's good and what's not. I'm typically favoring creature heavy builds
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>>97164350
>Academy Manufacturer
I see that you also do have more things that make food tokens, but I how you know it doesn't work with the tokens Bernard actually makes.
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>>97166586
I hope it works for you because I'm seriously going to try >>97166451 now.
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>>97165048
You know you can just build that right? Snow is the least intrusive mechanic ever there is no barrier to using the snow stuff. Do you need the commander to spell out that it gives a shit about snow for you? This thread I swear to god man.
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>>97164107
>Ivora in the 99
Nice. Love this gal. Really enjoyed playing her. How's Jaw's been playing out for you?

https://moxfield.com/decks/hB4FdXIUz0OKO-55Ov84fg
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>>97164135
>Concordant Crossroads
Does this usually play out in your favor? The couple times I've tried putting this in a deck it usually ends up feeling like it helps everyone else out more. Unless I drop it as a final push for game
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>>97166723
I like that you built Ivora anon, I've seen you post a few times. I wish more people would build underplayed commanders
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>>97166719
If it doesn't say I can draw a card each time a snow permanent enters under my control, how am I supposed to build a snow deck around it?
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>>97166821
>Attentive first year
Uh.... What does that mean? Sounds like strixhaven
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>>97166838
There's a group of Strixhaven students on Lorwyn for some reason.
Trans orc, non-binary vampire, *that* kind of group.
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>>97166851
Disgusting
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>>97164188
qrd on the new Lorwyn story and Morcant?
I'm mildly interested but don't feel like reading some wotc writer's tranny ramblings
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>>97166821
>once per turn
unplayable
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>>97166838
There's a story in this set about a bunch of Strixhaven kids getting lost.
Don't ask why the Perfects don't kill them on-sight, everyone just accepts the existence of multiple realities populated with creatures they can't comprehend, because the world isn't as bigoted as you.
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>>97166874
.... That makes no sense but alright
I guess this is what we get when the game is written by troons
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>>97166874
>The perfects want to kill the denizens of their own world but are perfectly fine with purple haired interdimensional travelers and white aligned vampires
Right
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>>97166874
That sounds lame and gay they should have made the story about some kind of dumb ancient artifact mcguffin that the merrow found in the dark meanders when they were forced to flee there during the phyrexian invasion.
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>>97166912
Please no, I fucking hate "dude this ancient all-powerful thing was under the rug and nobody noticed" types of plots.
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>>97166881
Sorry sweetie, but Lorwyn is a fantasy world, not a bigoted one.
Why would you assume anyone on Lorwyn is racist?
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>>97166927
Man, I STILL don't understand what the takeaway of Zendikar Rising was supposed to be.
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>>97164188
Not to mention right is also a superior "pushed" design that's effective but fair for the decks that want it, while left is FIRE slop that will be absolutely godawful to play against and may possibly see a ban. FF fucking nailed what a set should be.
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>>97165885
ich weiß was du bist du hurensohn
jetzt zeig mal deinen schwanz
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>>97166930
because the elves are literally racist
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>>97166930
That's literally the MO of the elves
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>>97166874
They literally find a Perfect and she immediately pivots to "kill everyone and rule Lorwyn again."
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>>97166943
I can't identify a FIRE design, what makes this FIRE?
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>>97166874
>>97166896
The current status, post-Phyrexian Invasion, is that the Perfects WANT to kill all the eyeblights but have had their grasp on power fundamentally destabilized. The Gilt-Leaf no longer rule Lorwyn and have neither the strength nor the clout to just go around massacring boggarts. These outsiders, ugly as they are, aren't affected by the change to Shadowmoor and can potentially be used to find a way to break the day-night cycle again, which the Gilt-Leaf want because they keep having all their attempts at regaining power undone by the Wilt-Leaf when night falls.
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>>97166874
>Don't ask why the Perfects don't kill them on-sight
what if they simply don't go there or run from them if they show up
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>>97166950
ach du lieber, volkswagen car
sauerbraten, wienerschnitzel, und vunderbar
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>>97164188
that genuinely looks like a 5 oclock shadow on Morcant also they made her fat because these elves are obsessed with beauty and up until now they were depicted as thin but fat = beautiful sweaty
I hate this gay world, what made me think I could get back into mtg with new Lorwyn
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Cabal coffers in grixis y/n?
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>>97166962
For far too long, fantasy, as a genre, was used as a way to reflect the worldview of those in power. It leaned into stereotype and reflected how the privileged wished the world was. Modern fantasy is more reflective of the actual world, which includes the wide variety of life experiences that exists.

Trans people, people of color, and women playing a larger role, are all part of modern fantasy because they’re all part of the actual world, and it’s important that wotc's stories and world building be reflective of that.

>i want to return to a time where we could ignore the existence of certain elements because I was happy living in that ignorance!!
Not an excuse to deny real people and their real life experiences.

Entertainment is at its best when it lifts everyone up and isn’t used as yet another means to ignore certain people’s reality.
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>>97165288
Dimir sucks.
OnCe A tUrN.
Spellslinger in non-burn colors meaning you're just building combo slop or a durdle fuck control deck that at best mildly irritates other players while they mostly ignore you and turbo out board states.
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>>97167000
I'm ignoring your man-wearing-wig experience but I'm not ignoring this premium bait. Nice trips
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>>97167000
>Not an excuse to deny real people and their real life experiences.
so you're going to ignore that people in real life are racist and get racisted at. understood.

anyway, where are you from that you had this on copypaste, I want to study your clandestine sociology you yakubian ape
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>>97167000
no fucking way this post is real
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>hallucinate thing the story is doing (it's doing the opposite)
>get mad at it
??????
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>>97166927
It doesn't reallly have to be all powerful or anything. It would have made sense for it be a thingy that woke up Eirdu and Isilu or something instead of having them appear with no explanation and then the second set of this two set block would have been the elves trying very hard to kill Isilu or whatever it is they want to do.
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>>97167000
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>>97165288
Why would he be popular when he's just a bad version of kess/lier/green goblin?
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>>97167010
>burn good
>combo bad
they both suck shit
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>>97166969
Given that you can effortlessly get 4+ elfs out a turn it's a boardwipe whenever you want where even if a creature is strong enough to survive -4/-4 it now has that many counters on it and will get caught up in the next wipe or will swing for minimal damage.
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>>97167035
It is, but maro posted it first. Anon is just imitating him.
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>>97167118
What's maro?
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>>97166056
here is a little spoiler for you
the vast majority of dimirs reanimation spells are sorceries. getting to cheat timing on that is fucking huge
also
>Muldrotha
get your fucking slop outta here
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>>97167116
>boardwipe
>-1/-1 on one creature OF YOUR OPPONENT'S CHOICE
God you're all so retarded.
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>>97167000
I know this is bait, but it's worth noting that
>fantasy, as a genre, was used as a way to reflect the worldview of those in power
>reflected how the privileged wished the world was
is still what's going on. Regardless of whether or not you agree with the type of world being depicted, even a gay man must admit that depicting a world in which homophobia is never so much as hinted at as a possibility isn't
>more reflective of the actual world

There's nothing that rankles more to me than proclaiming things about how power USED to be wielded when wielding power in exactly the same way, but for different goals.
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>>97167146
Progs are hypocrites, news at 11
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>>97167000
This poster wears a mask to hide their jawline and 5 o’clock shadow
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>>97165516
By the time I could have payed for his ability I already filtered through a bunch of my cards and had something to reanimate or simply something better to do. I played him about 8 times and I never activated his ability. Him being a 2 mana 8/8 came in handy a bunch of times.
I may just replace him now I think about it
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>>97165288
he's very good in the 99
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>>97166821
once per turn is completely fine
active only as a sorcery on the other hand is not
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>>97167153
>Progs
Anyone with power. Any time you hear a conservative complain about rigged elections, you can be sure they're going to start trying to rig them themselves as soon as they get the chance.
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>>97164188
That's not the "average UB." Its actually the atypical UB from an eastern company that both does not engage in identity politics and, more importantly, did not let wotc inject it into their ip.
If they did, Tifa would have been a short fat black woman with an undercut.
>But that aperil is from a version where she was black
Yes, and coincidentally, will be the only one in the set.
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>>97167256
It doesn't work with as a sorcery, what would you even copy lmao
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Are people aware of how busted this card is, or can I still play it without the entire table turning on me?
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>>97167265
how many black UB characters are there for you to say it's the average?
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>>97166201
>you have to reliably get your opponents to lose life
I mean there's tons of ways to do that with only black access, look at valgavoth's unique playables for ideas. underworld dreams/fate unraveler/sholdred/seizan/crawling scrawler, nightshade harvester/mishra's ankh, barbed wire/copper tablet, heck you can run the dingus egg "cycle" of artifacts, not to mention all the variations on painful quandry.
if you think that's diluting your deck too much, you're going to have to resign yourself to only getting a flashback when your commander hits someone.
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>>97167265
You picked a very poor example. If we are going by just attractive artwork of women, that is a very attractive woman.
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>>97167273
Everyone knows its broken. Even if they don't, they will once you get a single proc off of it.
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>>97166821
Unrestricted trigger copying is not a mono white ability
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>>97166966
The first elf we see encouter the group gets into an argument with the they/them about feet instead of making they/them a was/were.
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>>97167361
Doubling triggers is literally as White as it gets.
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>>97167340
>Sheboons
>Capable of being attractive
You can only pick one.
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>>97167376
Doubling is not copying
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>>97167373
while putting a knife on their neck and dragging them to the Prefect, which promptly makes them a slave for their "kill literally everyone else in Lorwyn" plan.
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>>97166983
>These outsiders, ugly as they are, aren't affected by the change to Shadowmoor and can potentially be used to find a way to break the day-night cycle again
Rereading the story, something about the structure of it bothered me, and this post made me realize why: It's structured like an improv D&D campaign. There's no reason for them to think this, but it happens to keep the heroes alive and story continuing.
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>>97167376
There are 4 trigger doublers in white, all of which are narrow (ETB,legend/artifact ETB/LTB, power 2 or less, equipment on that creature) and all of which were printed in the last 2 years
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>>97167425
>There's no reason for them to think this, but it happens to keep the heroes alive and story continuing.
The Omenpaths opened literal years ago. The story makes explicit note that people coming to Lorwyn on accident is not new, it's just not common. They would all know about the outsiders' immunity to the cycle at this point.
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>>97167430
Why do you open your mouth?
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>>97167484
>artifact
>not white
Hmm.
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>>97167361
good thing the card isn't mono white
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>>97167361
It's ridiculous to get mad about a boros card having doubling
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>>97167500
but it would greatly relax the burden on our designers if it could be considered monowhite for EDH purposes (somehow?)
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>>97167507
they haven't even done this change tho, quit it with the histrionics
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>>97167322
While I'm aware that cards don't exist in a vacuum, I don't really like that kind of argument too much since, when you're talking about adding in a third card into the boardstate, there's just too many variables to account for and the hypotheticals can get ridiculous.
Let's suppose you want to cast Temporal Manipulation, because that's an obvious double-up spell. If everything goes right with Emet, you used a spell, your opponents lost life, and you got two turns out of it. Great! Same "one additional card" clause with Kess, though, and we cast Increasing Vengeance on Temporal Manipulation. I get four turns out of that (because I'm sure as Hell going to cast Temporal Manipulation from my graveyard on one of those turns). At that point, I don't care about triggering stuff on my opponent's turns, because they're not getting anymore turns.
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>>97167484
Show me the white pip on this card
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>>97167500
Can go in mono white decks though
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>>97167538
Lol retard
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>>97167398
> putting a knife on their neck
And then removing it when asked

>for their "kill literally everyone else in Lorwyn" plan.
Why would they think they need a non-binary vampire for that?
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>>97167433
Right, just like how racists stopped existing a decade after the civil rights movement passed, and nobody was violent...
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>>97167516
>WotC proposes hybrid change
>People think they'll immediately start printing hybrid cards that aren't actually hybrid
>Shills assure us they won't
My vindication will be swift and absolute
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>>97167547
Colorless =/= monocolored
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>>97167273
>Buster sword is busted
Good flavor
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>>97167000
>for far too long have I been taking offense to what our customers wanted
>now that I'm in power they will get what I want
>which includes leaning into delusions and social contagions
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>>97167170
You mean maro?
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>>97167570
Lol retard
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>Pic related spiked to $14
What's the worst that a mono-W deck (assume the stupid-ass hybrid rule goes into effect) could do with this?
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>>97167564
Except doubling triggers is a mono white ability. Copying things is also a mono white ability.
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>>97167361
Well duh. This card is nonbinary, so it's not just "mono-whyte," "mono-red," OR "red and whyte."
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>>97167611
I'm more than happy if Wizards is exploring RW as a "creature abilities" color combination.
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>>97166896
"Fuck off we're full" doesn't necessarily mean razing their hometown
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>>97164107
Got to play with my new Aerith deck today, it's loads of fun! Still looking for a wind crystal and cleric class, but otherwise I'm really happy about where it is.
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>>97167702
Forgot pic like a dumbass
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>>97167702
Got a list?
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>>97167000
Thanks Patrick Baitman
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>>97167545
No, it can't
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>>97167702
>>97167715
That's nice bro, but it looks like your opponents might still have fun against this deck.
Consider all blue-identifying creatures white has, like Esper sentinel, solitude and Drannith Magistrate, while keeping Aerith to bring them back in case they die.
Solitude is a lot of fun, because he has an enjoyable ETC in exile. Palace jailer is another fun include, also being exile.
You could include small life gain memes with soul sisters, with the main theme being stax.

Finishers could be finale of devastation and green sun's into craterhoof, making good use of all the small creatures you have.
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>>97167507
>somehow?
At this point, I'm just reposting the obvious rules modification to show how easy it is.

>903.4f. When determining a card's color identity, cards with hybrid mana symbols are treated as having multiple color identities, one for each color of mana represented by a hybrid symbol. During deckbuilding, only a single color identity need be considered in determining what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The other color identities are treated as though they didn’t exist.
>(The rule on commander color identity in the absence of a commander, which was previously rule 903.4f, is moved to 903.4g)
>903.5e. If hybrid mana symbols appear in your commander's mana cost or rules text, any rule or effect that refers to your commander’s color identity refers to all of its combined color identities. See rule 903.4.
>(The rule clarifying that Commander games do not use sideboards, which was previously rule 903.5e is moved to 903.5f)
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>>97164290
Evershrike secret commander.
Aphemia is kinda cool also
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>>97167549
Because the poison they want to extract can only be extracted at night. An elf can't go at night because then they'd stop being Gilt-Leaf and thus not want to kill everyone else in Lorwyn.

So they get an outsider to do it for them. Duh.
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>Evershrike secret commander.
I'd rather play Uril
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>>97167257
Sure
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>>97167795
don't you feel bored from making it so straightforward and easy?
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>>97167790
Oh of course the MacGuffin that was never brought up before the story needed a convenient reason for the villains to keep the heroes alive
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>>97164594
You talk and act like X the executioner in real life
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>>97164213
Aerith Gainsborough
Fire Lord Azula
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>>97167803
You're still the establishment, faggot. The vooting is just from people tired of getting told "don't be racist" realizing how much of a fuckup Biden was.
Also if you want to do this go to /pol/ so those faggots can laugh at you for thinking globalism is the underdog.
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>>97167803
>it's a 'retard from a flyover doesn't understand correlation' int check
Go back to facebook.
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>>97167807
>Oh of course the MacGuffin that was never brought up before the story
You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>97167726
Nope, don't even got account on moxfield or anything, sorry. Most of it is just stuff from the bundle and bulk boxes I found, along with a good chunk of cards that edhrec suggested. Mostly etb lifegain and lifelink stuff.
>>97167761
People seem to get super spooked by all the lifegain, so while I might consider some stuff to punch back, I'm not looking to make it too powerful. Got the squirrels for when I need to up the game.

That makes me think. What are commanders that people don't instantly gang up on and can suddenly swing out when necessary? I wanted Aerith to be a less scary deck, but apparently that might not always be the case.
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>>97167742
Will soon dumdum
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>>97167803
Not only is this not the board for it, but your image is also wrong.
>Based on a Reuters' electoral map of the 2024 election results, however, Harris won at least six states that required voters to present IDs.
>Harris won New Hampshire and Rhode Island. Both states require voters to present valid photo identification before voting.
>Harris won Colorado, Virginia, Connecticut, and Delaware, also states that require voters to present a valid form of identification that does not necessarily need a photo.
>Harris won in other states that do not require voters to present identification, including California and New York.
>Trump won Pennsylvania and Nevada, which do not require voters to present identification in most cases.
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I'm new to this and want to start with the game of thrones proxy deck.
I was wondering if it's beginner friendly and what to look out for.
Here's the decklist:
https://moxfield.com/decks/n5VudpA0wEudZ_QMdp3o2Q
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>>97167884
>I'm new to this and want to start with the game of thrones proxy deck.
You and your kind are filth.
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>>97167884
There are a decent amount of triggers to keep track of, tutors and only 32 lands (lol?).
I would start elsewhere but you probably could if you really had to.
BTW this game sucks and you shouldn't start if you can avoid it
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>>97167884
No, this is way too much if you're new. Start with a Krenko, Mob Boss deck or something like that. One color, simple gameplan to get you into the muscle memory of playing the game and understanding board state.
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>>97167884
>the game of thrones proxy deck.
>implying anyone else has ever head of this trash
lmao
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>>97167803
>Trump sends out his gooniest goon squad supporters out to "stop the count" on states he's losing during election.
>Is recorded on tape asking a governor to "find votes"
>Tried to get recounts to find fraud, only to find the only fraud to have been committed by Republican individuals
>Same gooniest goons storm the capital in a hilariously inept attempt to stop the the election from being ratified.
>Ignore all that actual fraud, let's focus on the fact a democrat won historically blue states as some form of fraud!
It was idiotic nonsense when the Dems said trump rigged the election in 2016.
It was and is idiotic nonsense to say the Dems tried to right the 2024 election.
However, someone very clearly was trying to rig the 2020 election and it wasn't the Democrats.
Maga has the same levels of reality denial as the trannies they claim to hate so much.
None of this has to do with magic the gathering.
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>>97167848
That's your picture above right anon? I'm building her so I'll take some pointers from there

Honestly same as you I wanted her to be less scary so I don't include any of these suggestions above or stax, just value and removal
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>>97167940
>>97167868
>>97167839
>>97167823
>Immediately the troons self report
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>>97167884
start by learning 1vs1 60/40 card magic anon. The absolute basics and fundamentals, it takes a while to get a hang of it.
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>>97167971
As a point of honor, I take issue with people on my "side" of a given division who present false or misleading arguments. I will not have such easily-disproven dreck serve as the face of my beliefs. For, if my beliefs have merit, they should stand for themselves, without relying on such idiocy.
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>>97167768
bro I know how easy it is to change the color identity rule, the "somehow" was because maro said it would be easier on the designers for hybrid to be an OR in edh because apparently it's so much harder for the design team to find the common ground between colors than to design "whenever you do <color 1 thing>, do <color 2 thing>"
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>>97168004
>i want to play edh with my buds for fun
>start by playing this other format with randoms competitively
That sounds like the least enjoyable way to get into edh.
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>playing grixis spellslinger
>no tutors or gcs
>have pic rel on turn 2 with greaves thanks to based sol ring
>go all in
>get 5 in a row
>peer into the abyss on the stack
>my superior 5 mana free counterspells and spell copies beat fow/negation
>lgs owner is called over
>next time i can choose not to win, or else ill be banned from edh events

I thought it would be fun, but that completely sucked all the fun out of me. The odds of having that guy out when I go first with greaves, and getting 5 in a row is astronomical.
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When are we getting UW reprints
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ban cards until this becomes good
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Has anyone built all of the original commanders for their color(s)?
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>>97168181
It will never be good
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>>97168013
this is a thread about a children's card game, PLEASE fuck off and take the off topic dogshit with you
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>>97164290
Eriette
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>>97168249
>children card game
This game has never in its entire history, been marketed as a children's game anon. This is just a weird larp insecure magic players do
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>>97168309
it's a reference to yugioh abridged
You would know this if you were born before 2007
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>>97168309
I first started playing this game when I was 13 in 1995. I even had a friend who was 10 that was playing it. Lots of kids were into it when it came out.
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>>97168202
I doubt it.
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>>97165599
I will goon actually
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>>97168309
All card games are inherently for children
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>>97168349
Wow. Nice work anon. If someone had all of those made and played them, major respect.
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>>97164107
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>>97168349
Very few of these are even playable by today's standards
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>try and make set reflect reality
>accidentally make it more fantasy than ever where no racism exists
lel seems like a good fantasy set to me imofamalamadingdong
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>>97168388
>true dual proxy
why do faggots do this
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>>97168348
Oh okay.
>>97168377
This is something someone who hates themselfs would say.
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>>97164188
>"The stranger evaded them once; he can do so again," said Morcant. "Send him back."
>"It's 'them,'" said Kirol, getting back to their feet. "And no. I won't go. I'm not dying for you people."
I don't know, left not acknowledging any pronoun bullshit is pretty based
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>>97167957
Yeah it's mine. A couple of standout cards I picked on my own were Forbidding Spirit for a 2 mana tax for attacking me, the Sage of the Skies for 2 2/3 flying lifelink bodies and Noose Constrictor which lets you discard cards as you will for when you need to get a big creature into the graveyard for resurrection. Having a mix of +1/+1 counters and big bodies feels good for me, Ollenbock Escort can sac itself to give anyone with them indestructible and lifelink. It's a down to luck if you can get the right pieces for that synergy, but more stats on lifelink creatures is always good. Managed to get 8 on Aerith with just Minwu, who is a real star in the deck as well.
Looking forward to seeing your build of the deck when it's hitting the tables for the first time.
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>>97165498
I mean player B is clearly in the wrong and any judge would agree
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>>97168576
Such disrespect. She should have just had he/them beheaded or turned into a pretty tree for that.
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>>97168576
Good heavens imagine having to write that sentence to pay the bills
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>>97168428
apropos what? listen here CHUD I'm racist as the next guy BUT my problem isn't darkies it's the fact that most of them are ugly, give me chocolate treats not poopooshit FACT TRUTH NUKE
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>>97168326
NTA, but you faggots have ruined that series for being so obnoxiously unfunny with referencing it.
>Dude every TCG is a children's card game because the series said that a lot
>WhAt dOeS pOt oF gReEd dO
You faggots have been saying the same damn references for decades an adding nothing to them. The only people who aren't tired of hearing you faggots are too new to get the reference. You're actively unfunny on here, and I genuinely hope for the people around you that you're not the type of sperg who says this shit irl.
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>>97168635
These ain't bad desu
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>>97168644
>Dude every TCG is a children's card game
This is true. I will not read the rest of your post lol.
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>>97168576
This is so fucking cringe
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>>97168635
sure, but either way it's still nailing the fantasy aspect since neither are real lol
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>>97168666
I forgot, we're near the bump limit, so in true /edhg/ fashion someone has to pretend to be retarded.
Wasted digits.
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>>97168715
Pretend?
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I have played against Kratos and Atreus 6 times since he released with multiple pilots/deck builders and I still have not seen it win a game. I really expected this to be a lot scarier to play against.
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>>97168094
>lgs owner is called over
>next time i can choose not to win, or else ill be banned from edh events
What?
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>>97168482
Because I'm not risking damage to my real one
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>>97166719
I want something at least thematically appropriate is all. I asked for it to be from ten years ago precisely so that it would avoid the "do thing" designs that are so common.
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>>97166719
sorry anon, we piggies can only play wotc approved decks
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>>97168824
This shit right here is killing the format
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>>97166998
N
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>>97168852
I
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>>97168858
C
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>>97168878
E
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>>97168878
E
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>>97168694
All art is performative virtue signalling, so at least make it appealing to ME. Here is a sloppa.
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>>97168843
Thematic appropriateness, "do thing" designs or both?
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>>97168907
needing your hand held to this extent.
You can call it thematic appropriateness but it's really just hand holding. You don't want to do the work and that's sad. But hey, WOTC has been catering to this craterbrain approach to the format for a few years so who knows, maybe you can just wait it out.
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Ban all staples.
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>>97168852
>>97168858
>>97168878
>>97168884
>>97168885
Good effort lads, maybe next time
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>>97168635
Neither of these women are actually that unattractive
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>>97168941
You have poor reading comprehension.
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>>97168387
Honestly, I wouldn't respect it at all. The only reason to do that would be to say that you did and pretend to be an oldfag. But any true oldfag is going to care more about their favorites than just pure age.
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>>97168936
should we also ban the cards that become staples after the current staples and so on?
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>>97168930
>You don't want to do the work and that's sad.
Shit, I've imagined what a custom card that satisfies my wants would look like. It just feels goofy to me having someone like Intet or Maelstrom Wanderer at the helm when they're just there to be colors. To say nothing of Temur's general issue of being a bunch of generic value Commanders. I guess Surrak would work based on his artwork, but again, it'd be nice to have something a little bit more focused. I'm sorry that seems to upset you so much.
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>>97168960
Yes.
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>year of our lord, 2025
>still no white alt for the nigger sevinne's rec
>even aang saved us from nigger's protection
>but still no sevinne's
/pol/bros...
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>>97168984
ngl I've never even looked at the art of sevinne's reclamation
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>>97168984
Buy my stones (was that how the old joke went?).
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>>97168993
Is this really better? Or is it just solving a problem with a different problem?
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>>97164107
I like Battlecruiser EDH.
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is battlecruiser just midrange
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>>97168635
She hustles my blood if you get what I mean
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>>97169033
It's fatties, more or less. Build up your "fleet of big-ass ships," send 'em into the breach.
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>>97168960
A format where if you win you have to swap out the strongest cards in your deck, but if you lose then you can swap in stronger cards, perhaps all the cards start in a shared pool like a form of draft or cube
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'ate niggers
'ate trannies
'ate UB
'ate investors
'ate hat sets
Love proxies
Love real magic
Simple as
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>>97169033
Midrange runs an interaction suite. Battlecruiser doesn't.
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>>97169052
Based. Also, check my dubs.
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>>97165400
This card art and flavor text is great.
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ban tutors
ban rituals
ban any source of mana that gives more than it costs
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>>97169063
Good point. Back in the day people my group hated interaction since they didn't build decks good enough to comeback from a board wipe.

>>97169052
based
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>>97168621
>there is a judge present at your friend's house
grim
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>>97169033
Battlecruiser is stompy/ramp. Spend your early turns ramping over and over and make big fat plays with massive board impact afterward.
Midrange is a broader archetype. It's a deck that destabilizes the opponent or ramps until they have access to 4 or 5 mana, depending on circumstance, then they are just trying to 2-for-1 the opponent every turn until they win. It's a deck that gets the aims to win by following its mana curve, essentially.
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>>97168249
>force idpol retardation into thread
>complain about getting called out
fuck off
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>>97169090
Alara is one of my favorite blocks. Really cool concept executed well. Were it so easy these days.
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Been thinking of running this in my Azusa deck, are there any other cards that would deny my opponents their lands and would fit in Azusa?
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>>97168995
Yes (it was me)
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>>97169143
the enchantment from avatar that sacs half your lands but doubles their mana output
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>>97169123
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the dilation station's two blocks down.
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>>97169143
Heh. I didn't know about that one. For my Azusa deck I just went full in on ramp and overrun win. I only have a handful of interaction.
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>>97169159
It triples not doubles
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>>97169066
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>>97167971
>If you don't agree with me, you're a nazi
>If you don't agree with me, you're a tranny
Opposite sides of the same mentally ill coin
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>>97169172
It makes them at 3 base. Not actually tripling mana generation.
There is a pedantic difference
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>>97168960
Of course!
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>>97169275
So after so many cycles we're just playing basical lands?
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>>97169277
imagine 5c cucks playing basics only
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>>97169242
Yeah very true, that's what I meant but I was careless with my words
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>>97169312
These two are the only possible choices, right? Unless you include an absolute shitload of card draw to cycle through your deck to get all 5 basic types out
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>>97168349
I've built Jarkeld, Marton, Nebuchadnezzar, Tibor and Lumia,Rasputin Dreamweaver, Tor Wauki, Lady of the Mountain, Selenia, Vhati, Razia, Momir Vig, Angus, Dakkon Blackblade, Sol'Kanar, Xira Avien, Hazezon Tamar, Sliver Queen and Karn.
I still have about half of them built.
So only really missing playing the newer wedge dragons and G/W.
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>>97169347
>implying kenrith isn't a staple
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>>97169312
You misunderstand, if you're just banning staples, then banning the next thing that becomes staples, and so on and so forth, you reach the point where your deck is nothing but 99 basics.
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>>97169364
>99 basics
>each commander in turn becomes the next staple
>rapidly dwindling amount of legendaries that are legal
>only 1 left, everyone runs it, becomes the last staple
>Commander ends
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>>97169370
imagine being the guy who won the final game of commander
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>>97169364
My commander.
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>mfw trying to build a landbase with 0 rares
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>>97169387
Would be the first banned staple of the 99 basic meta. Sorry bud.
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>>97169099
You were talking about friends :-| mine would never act so faggy I assumed it had to be an lgs
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>>97169408
>never acting faggy
I do it out of principle
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>>97169364
>I hope I don't get a Skrelv mirror match
>Shit I did
>Oh man, the 3rd in the pod is playing that 1/3 vanilla legendary for 2.
>Fucking pubstomper
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I need a relatively cheap deck that's fun and also braindead easy to pilot. Any suggestions bros?
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>>97169456
Krenko
Talrand
Elves
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Print more backgrounds TRVTHNVKE
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>>97169456
Landfall
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>>97169469
Print 2c backgrounds
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how much ass is this going to suck as a burn deck?
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>>97169491
Unfathomable amounts
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>>97168792
Is there enough God tribal stuff to make him and his son work? I also imagine the end of turn part probably limiting him a good amount.
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>>97169491
You just gotta believe
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>>97169479
Unironically this. I would kill for 3c backgrounds to have more 4c deck possibilities, as well
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>>97169500
We need backgrounds with random useless WUBRG abilities for more valueslop.
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>>97169500
4+ colors should be banned
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>>97169525
No. Then i can't play my myr tribal deck
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>>97169469
God I fucking wish. It was an interesting commander idea that I really want them to revisit.
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>playing with randos at lgs last night
>guy 1 super quiet and was like a a slow computer only thinking on his own turn
>his turn would come around, he'd sit in silence pondering, tapping some cards for a few minutes then act it out super quick barely explaining as he goes
>I countered a spell of his and he froze for 30 sec thinking before letting it resolve
>guy 2 took 10min turns playing solitaire and a million triggers
>I had no idea what he was up to and could also barely hear him since he was on opposite corner from me in a loud room, just kinda went with it
>guy 3 was chill, was returning player although I was playing Vren where all creatures go to exile instead of graveyard. He just put all his creatures in the graveyard and was recurring them. I asked about which creatures where exiled when Vren was on the field and he wasn't sure what was meant to be anywhere but it's not a biggie.
Also remembered I had Dauthi Voidwalker on the field for a while and everyone put all their stuff in a separate pile for it but it got killed off and guy 2 just played that shit like it was his graveyard
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>>97169498
i wanna believe
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>just finish building my edea deck and about to head out to lgs
>go over my commander decks
>all of them are grixis women

why are all evil dommy mommies so fun mechanically
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>>97169557
you may be homosexual
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>>97169557
Are you the retard who keeps blogging about how you are playing Parnese wrong?
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>>97169527
God I fucking love my Urtet deck. This is my favorite finisher when it's down to 1v1
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>>97169609
>heh, this guy got a text layering rule wrong when copying a permanent spell a few weeks ago
>better keep bitching about it nonstop

>>97169578
Based
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>>97169633
Just say "yes" next time retard.
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>>97169633
cris vibes who is it?
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>>97167971
>Try to pull the "Uhm, sweetie, the RIGHT are in power" card
>Get called out
>False flag by calling everyvxsotone ttannies
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>>97169557
I can't wait for the oedipoid memes to die down.
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>>97169642
Can you stop shitting up these threads with your bitchiness? Seriously, it’s like you and random people crying in blogposts nonstop. It’s a fucking card game.

>>97169648
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>>97169610
Based big orange kitty.
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>>97169665
>Stop pointing out that I'm a baffoon.
No.
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>>97169557
You have a problem
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>>97164799
cringe is more modern since Gen Z uses it now. Out of date would be like *tips fedora* because someone isn't religious.

Actual meme used when I was drafting fucking Innistrad
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>>97169658
1. I have a 6’3 fat latina gf, my mom is 5’3 and thin
2. Grixis is the best color slice. Sorry, dimir and rakdos also tie for 2nd. Those commanders are fun, name a single commander there that sucks to play. If you say curses you are wrong. Also

Show me your commanders pussy
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>>97166723
This deck isn't even optimized at all and just suddenly kills everyone because "lol I cast meltdown for 0 while having 20 artifacts out" and shit. If I actually optimized it he'd be an even bigger terror. As is I haven't even spent a lot of time on the deck and it consistently just kills the table out of no where because big shark.
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>>97169657
Kek still seething I see
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>>97169557
Because fantasy evil women are never shown doing anything truly horrid themselves.
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>>97169792
Ashnod does a lot of horrible stuff
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Commandland
Basic Land
T, Pay life equal to the number of colors in your commanders’ color identity: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
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>>97169827
>basic
>not basic
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>>97169800
How is it described? In detail or no?
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Should there be a one mana of any color symbol and a commander color identity mana symbol
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>>97169722
>Whenever a noncreature artifact is sacrificed or destroyed
This whole time I thought Jaws was just whenever an artifact is sacrificed. Completely forgot he's also counting destroyed. That's a lot more dangerous sounding than I had thought. Glad the big shark is working out for you. I've been sitting on one for a while but was never sure what to do with it.
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I heard that putting a commander in a hidden zone (hand, library) has different rules from public zones (graveyard, exile) that make stickers persist if you put them into the command zone, is that true?
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>5 cost
Literally unplayable
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>>97169942
I thought stickers just always stayed on? I can't say I ever read up on them
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>>97169469
We will get another D&D set eventually. Hopefully they are in there.
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>>97169066
Impressive. Very nice.
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Next time I see a tranny at my lgs I'm going to stab them in the throat
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>create saga creatures
>create perfect commander for them
>include numerous alt art treatments for the creatures and commander including an expensive holiday box card
>make 12 total saga creatures the commander can use so you can't even build a full deck with them

Wizards are so retarded
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>>97169844
>Should there be a one mana of any color symbol
I've legitimately have wanted this for like 20+ years. Eldrazi have the colorless mana symbol, we need a "can only be paid with colored mana" symbol
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I want to build a deck around this.
What commander?
Xavier Sal comes to find first
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>>97170024
This won't happen, by the way
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>>97170078
These are your only choices, unless you wanna go with a generic "tokens" commander
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>>97170088
None of these are green man.,
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>>97170065
There are SO FUCKING MANY "specifically geared for a very niche idea" commanders that don't have the correct/not enough colors, so they can only be played in the 99. I fucking hate the design decisions they make so much
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>>97170095
Yep. Exactly. Welcome to skeletons, been like this for almost 30 years
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>>97170078
none sadly
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>>97170078
>can't even cheese it with token doublers
The pain never ends, skelebros
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>>97170125
Did you forget doubling season and Parallel Lives exists?
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>>97170065
I still like this better than the other yuna with the focus on enchantment creatures from duskmourn
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>>97170078
Xavier would probably bet the best at the moment yes since populate is the closest to more skeletons please that there is right now while hitting MOST of the colors for all skeleton cards other than the rare few red ones.
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>>97170138
Can those be your fucking commander, you dipshit?
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>>97170078
Xavier does feel like the most likely option. He's got the populate thing to make more skeletons and sacrificing for his effect means more skeletons as well.He's also a pirate and there's a couple skeleton pirates so that's fitting. Skullbriar feels in spirit but he's a zombie which detracts a bit.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/ZquvirHMhka4KyoxtpmhRA
Any optimizers in the chat?
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>not skeleton god
Errata when
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>>97170212
Right after they make Toymaker a God.
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>>97170212
>only use is 2 card infinite combos
>has no business in bracket 4
sad card
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>>97166730
>Unless I drop it as a final push for game
This is only real reason I will drop it onto my board. Although I have had four games where I’ve dropped it turn 1 or turn 2 with mana dorks which I can then use to get out Captain Sisay (if she’s the Commander and not Karametra) and/or other creatures. Being that early in the game where everyone is still building up it can really help with getting me ahead.
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I want to apologize to my pod
I won because I rite of rep'd a sun titan but it was only an hour after I left the store that it had a SOFI on it under that massive pile of equipment and auras
I also want to apologize for locking out the table with zur's weirding lol I didn't realize it would be that oppressive
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>>97170065
You can still make a pretty good enchantress deck with Yuna if you include cards like the Theros gods, Constellation creatures, all useable Saga creatures, etc.
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>>97170327
I do not wish to apologise to my friends when one of them played their Breya deck and dropped Mycosynth Lattice, then I followed up with Karn, the Great Creator and locked the table out of the game. One of my four friends and I thought it was hilarious.
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>>97170203
Yuriko is a solved deck my man. There's nothing left to optimize.
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>>97170336
>>97170169
Yeah I wound up padding her out with enchantment creatures, which again there's only a hundred or so to choose from in WG with most being hot garbage so my choices were all basically made for me.

I just don't get why they insisted on pushing her when you can't (yet) make even a 20 saga creature deck with her yet. We better not have to wait to next year or whenever the fuck they release the new FF set to get some more summons.
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>>97170203
This reminds me yet again of WotC's dumbassery
>completely rework/errata companions TWICE
>yuriko hasn't been errata'd even though they said Commander ninjutsu was a mistake
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>>97170360
what about zero rare or game changer yuriko
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>>97168482
Because why not?
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>>97170415
heterosexuality
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>>97170387
They could make commander ninjutsu require paying command tax and she would still be extremely strong.
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>>97170464
Nta but
Honestly I'm shocked they haven't done that. I built her before I even realized that she dodged the tax because she's the best ninja Commander by far.

What I really think they should have done is erattad all ninjutsu to work from the command zone but have it be subject to the tax. That fixes not only yuriko but the other commanders with ninjutsu too
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>>97170386
Sorry man but this version is just better. Works even better with stuff like the ozolith and works great with the summons
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>>97170490
I just hate 3 color slop decks so much, especially when an entire color is so hard to justify. Why do I need blue when the vast majority of counter support is Selesnya. She doesn't even do thing draw card. Gavin and co just use 3 color/wurbg sloppa as an excuse not to make better cards for individual colors and to keep game fundamentals like efficient draw and ramp trapped in their precious Simic.
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>>97170386
I think WotC were thinking that she’d be more of a normal format creature. I gave Arena a spin when FF came out and to see if my opinion of 1v1 Magic had changed (it didn’t; it still sucks), but I did come up against a few decks wheee the strategy seemed to be dumping the FF Saga Creatures like Bahamut, Knights of the Round, etc. into the grave, then dropping her and getting them back for free. Think this idea also caught on for RL for a time as from my Bundle and the pre-release I pulled 3 Yunas (2 extended art, one normal) and a work buddy bought them off of me for $100 dollarydoos because he wanted to use them in his standard deck. Nonetheless, I don’t think FF will be the last time we see Saga Creatures.
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What the fuck happened. why is this now a 20 dollar card
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>>97170587
main engine in the best standard deck
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>>97170587
fucking what? I got this shit for cheap ages ago
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>>97170594
I dunno man, I was looking at a shitty dick I build and wondering why it was worth more and found this thing spiked
>>97170591
I see
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>>97170389
t:creature mv=>8 ci=<dimir -is:gamechanger
Go nuts
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>>97170618
oh I forgot: -r:mythic -r:rare
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>>97170490
Jacked Rabbit goes hard with her. Shame the other good ones (Krenko and Anim) are locked behind red.
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>>97170587
New net deck just dropped
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>>97170587
Because it's got a cute little animal on it, and look he's a painter!
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>>97170541
>vast majority of counter support is Selesnya.
Blue/Simic has plenty of counter support going as far back as OG Ravnica.
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>>97170643
Which has nothing to do with what he said?
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>>97170636
If she was Naya it would have really cooked
>>97170541
Blue and simic has plenty of counter support
>She doesn't even do thing draw card
Sorry but this made me kek

I'm not really sure what you mean by tri color slop, lots of people seem to appreciate three colors in commander. Still I wouldn't have complained if she was simply Selesnya
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>>97170685
He made a factually incorrect statement.
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>>97170697
The majority of counter support IS in selesnya. The existence of graft doesn't contradict that at all.
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>>97170703
Simic is right behind it
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>>97170703
>The majority of counter support IS in selesnya.
Not by much. I don't know why anon is complaining about 3c slop when you can play a 3c counter deck that has just as much synergy as a 2c one without getting into random generic goodstuff.
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>>97170715
>not by much
>can only post cards from one block
>meanwhile selesnya has counter support forever
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>>97170727
I was simply choosing to post original Ravnica but if you insist
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>>97170599
Caltrops price since Hulk was revealed
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>>97170727
Stop being dumb
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>even skeleton support is over costed bullshit
Why does wotc hate this tribe so much, only one they probably hate more minotaur
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>>97170727
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>>97170731
That's going to go back down when they realize hulk isn't that good, like almost every single big new commander ever
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>>97170727
Another one
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>>97170727
Wan shi tong
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There are also plenty of Bant specific counter cards
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>>97170727
Everyone's favorite set
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>>97170740
We gave you half a dozen good commanders for skeleton tribal the other thread, shut up already
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>>97169052
>>97169066
checked
>>97169212
based
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>>97169491
I built it with a mix of burn and fight, it's resilient and good because it's easy to turn 4/4s into card draw.
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>>97170740
Not every creature type is meant to be a "tribe"
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>>97170785
Then why do they have lords?
>>97170781
>Good
>5
Wrong on both accounts
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>>97170587
>picked up 4 foils a few weeks after release for dirt cheap
HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW INVESTORCHADS????
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>>97170735
>hurr durr look how smart i am aren't i cool?
One of the worst things designers/writers do is make someone impossibly intelligent just for the sake of being like "aren't they awesome???" Some of the shittiest writing they could ever do
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I hate my opponents getting +1/+1 counters so goddamn much, what's the best commander for me?
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>>97170771
nta but I must've missed this cuz I've been searching for years and haven't found shit. The only thing I remember is people arguing over whether pic rel is good or not (my opinion is yes with the right background but it's not my cup of tea)
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>>97170823
fuck commanders just cast insurrection
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>>97170823
Your shit is mind now, I guess
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>>97170815
She's a horrible character but admittedly I like her cards. This commander is fun as hell. Paradox sculptor also seems powerful

>>97170824
Gut is very good with agent of the iron throne
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>>97170823
Obviously. Or a white/black commander with Aether Snap/Solemnity/Thief of Blood
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>>97170823
Oops I exiled your 30/30 I draw a card
Oops I exiled him from the gy I draw another card
Oops I wiped your board of gigantic fatties for the 5th time this game my guy is still alive
Oops I exiled all of them from the GY I draw a card
Oops you managed to attack me with one of them I guess I'll body body it with my commander and ignore it, gain 4 life
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>>97170823
Literally anything in black
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>>97170842
ketramose is too much of a cunt to run in the command zone.
and i fucking love ketramose.
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>>97170824
Rather than just looking for cards that say Skeleton on them, look for commanders that work with the most common ability among the tribe, that being recursion from graveyard (mostly to hand and not to battlefield, which does preclude some reanimator payoff commanders). Gut was mentioned with several backgrounds, as were Syr Komrad, Amzu, Teval, and Tormod
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>>97170862
>Rather than just looking for cards that say Skeleton on them, look for commanders that work with the most common ability among the tribe
No.
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Can't wait!
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>>97170902
This is going to be a massive noob trap commander, mark my words
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I like bad cards
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>>97170862
>Rather than just looking for cards that say Skeleton on them, look for commanders that work with the most common ability among the tribe
Fucking cringe

You will never embody the spirit of the format
Go play a sweat format like pauper or standard
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>>97170928
we need to make these cards playable truth nuke
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>>97170940
If it didn't cost 1 on its tap it would be
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>>97170907
its just anzrag with counter spells
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I wish impetious lootmonger was possible to make work in real life. I love getting treasues while protecting myself from their best combos and this dirty nigger with his mini bribery would go in all my red decks.
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>>97170958
>xhe's a thefttranny
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>>97170976
Think I'm going to play theft from now on so you and your ilk can have a melty before I even shuffle up.
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>>97170976
Let me touch your cards faggot, dashing ragavan isnt giving me the high i need anymore.
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>>97170907
It's good
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>>97171011
>Must be turned sideways to win
It's a noob trap.
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>>97171019
combat matters.
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>>97171032
no because the game ends in a combo win on turn 3
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>decide to NOT counter spell that might win player the game because if he doesn't he is going to get tunneled by the aggro deck
>aggro deck kills the player
>pass turn
>decide to NOT stun the tapped dragons because then the aggro deck is deterministically dead to him next turn and has to kill him
>untap and wipe the aggro deck's board
>win
ALWAYS
BET
ON
NOTHING
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>>97171041
only if you are playing solitaire brackets.
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>>97170907
Temur is notoriously weak
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>>97171067
>Miriam
>Maelstrom Wanderer
>Ikoria Partners
>Xyris
>Lucia
>Animar
>Kalamax
Temur's pretty good
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>>97171081
Uh. You forgot about loot.
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>>97171081
I think he was being sarcastic
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>>97164398
That could work to but I am much less familiar with molding that.

>>97165792
If someone can tell me a good site I can upload something to I will share it.

>>97166218
>>97166562
Thank you, it's been a long time coming.

>>97166594
I did not realize that actually, guess it still works in my deck with the other food things I have. Thanks for the heads up.
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>>97171086
Fwiw I've never seen anyone run any version of Loot as a commander. I did miss Flubs, I see him a ton.
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>>97171095
Loot, the Pathfinder is a CEDH commander, not like top tier, but he still is.
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>>97171111
>>97171111
>>97171111
Image limit reached
Abandon ship
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>>97170902
i love how the only way to get people to play this game now is apparently to hand them a commander with 2 sides and 2 effects on each side so that you always have something to do with it in every situation and it's never dead ever even as an 8th card. if i played one of these things i'd basically be agreeing with wotc that im a retard who hates decisions.
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>>97169974
>We will get another D&D set eventually.
God, I hope not.



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