Previous: >>97171111>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat deck do you have that you are thinking about reworking or taking apart?
>TQIt just feels like I durdle too much with it.Needs to be tuned a lot more.
>TQ
There's a lot of interesting ways to gain life, but not enough interesting ways to pay life.
i haven't had a single game without a FF commander since the set came out
>>97179266>TQratadrabik, too much support. dominaria united was almost on the edge already but they went too far with UB slop
>TQI want to learn more into sea monster tribal with arixmethes. it begun as infinite mana slop, but I quickly realized that I like the "costal floods washing sea monster onto the shore" vibe much more. maybe put some boats in pirates in for good measure.
No idea why this guy is a 50 cent rare.Maybe it's just my deck, but turning a bunch of low-power double-strikers into 7/5's is basically game over.
I will play 5 color landfall with my ass lands
>>97179279What happened to her face?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97179345Because he costs 5
>>97179345Got a list? Been thinking about building him because I also think he's underratedI was thinking most "living weaponx style effects, is that how you built yours?
Rate my Jolly Balloon Man deck, I already see some cuts I need to make
>>97179350I'm not completely against being a coomer but it just doesn't make sense for lands
>>97179364No list, I basically just tossed him in a cheap equipment deck and was surprised by how good he is whenever he pops up.Also really love the way he works with Shivan Devastator. Hell of a punch out of nowhere.
>>97179266>What deck do you have that you are thinking about reworking or taking apart?I have quite a few decks from 8+ years ago that are way less efficient because I sucked at building decks back then. I feel like they're snapshots of my skill level of the time and don't like the idea of reworking/rebuilding them. So I save them for when everyone wants to play much lower powered games
>>97179350>Most coom proxies focus on tits>This one does ass>However, they don't related to the land they're supposed to be at all.damn
>>97179374looks fun though I'd add at least one more card that makes copies, kiki-jiki, delina, jaxis, anythingotherwise i'd feel like if you eat a board wipe and removal the deck halts in place
>>97179266>What deck do you have that you are thinking about reworking or taking apart?Spider-Man, Peter Parker. Just never works out when I play it
>>97179351I don't think they ever tell you.
commanders for this feeling?
>>97179351>>97179432Yeah that's From for you. It allows lazy writing. >he he look how mysterious this is, aren't you curious? He he he>billions if lore videos shit like on a door in a sewer that has nothing behindSo gay
>>97179447I mean, c'mon now
>>97179419Yeah good idea. Thinking about either slotting in jaxis or a copy of orthoion if I have one.I'm also adding redirect lightning
>>97179451KekAccurate
>>97179328Based as fuck
>>97179328Based
>>97179406You didn't notice their hair and swimsuit colors?
>>97179484>True coomer doesn't look at anything but the tits and asses
Who are you quoting?
>>97179447fling. it was me who threw the rock.
>>97179496Who the fuck would want to be a "true coomer."
>>97179484I'd prefer them looking like some representation of the land they are of, or at the very least be in the area, not just a slut in a swinsuit with danger hair.Some of them are, just wildly aren't. Tundra looks like a fucking jungle.
just ripped the bong and im about to head to the lgs. have a good time lads!>>97179509
>>97179322>Another retard tries to design green hate that doesn't answer Burgeoning in any way
My other crazy game last night was with Taii Wakeen.Fun game though with craziest stack interaction Ive had in a long time.The guy to my right was running Prismatic Bridge control. His wincon was basically to lock the game up and then eventually mill people out with Folio of Fancies. He had Muldotha, Claws of Gix, Bubble Matrix, and some group-hugy cards that would force draw on people and double mana production.Since I was running the red burn deck, his Matrix was public enemy number 1 for me. I ended up exiling it with Cast into the Fire and he got it back from exile with some effect, and recast it. Eventually both the other two players got milled out mostly by drawing their entire deck. Minds Aglow was played and the other two opponents were tired of this control STAX so they paid a lot of mana and ended up drawing like 60 cards each with some other effect.With the other two players actually milled out, it came down to me with 3 cards in deck and bridge guy on one final showdown turn. He got cocky and started saying "I think you can't win, I have a lock". I think he did misplay because he had a Sudden Spoiling but didnt play it until part way through my turn. I had Coruscation Mage and Electrostatic in play so I tapped Taii Wakeen for 6 to boost my damage to 7 from ping effects. Then I started to unload my 60 card hand with double mana lands (red wizard wet dream). He flashes in Divine Presence with his Vedalken Orrery. I cast Stroke of Midnight on it. He flashes in Privileged Position. I Reprieve it. He casts it again. Everything resolves. I start throwing all my cantrips (ForkedBolt, Shock, Lava Dart, Lightning Bolt ... ). He casts the stifling card, but too late, he didn't realize I was chad enough to run a million burn cantrips in burn_cantrip.deck.
>>97179350how am I supposed to tell these apart across the table?
>>97179569>implying he actually plays with these
>>97179569>he looks at opponent's card to read them instead of just asking them to remind you what they do againwhy would you so casually admit to not actually playing edh?
>>97179575Considering that clearly is a storefront image, whomever posted it, probably doesn't.He do play with things like that.>>97179569A lot of full art lands aren't very clear as to what they are from looking at across the table already. If you can't tell what something is from across the table legit cards or proxy, ask you sperg.
>>97179586>hey bro I forgot what that card does could you read it again
>>97179586>He can trust the people he plays with to not undersell their cards, if not get them completely wrongMust be nice.
>>97179586we went over this last time. people are not going to tell me what their cards are more than once and if every single one looks the same or god forbid moves around after new ones come in I AM going to ask again
>>97179606>people are not going to tell me what their cards are more than onceThey literally will. If its on the board in an open zone they HAVE TO even if you've asked every turn for the past 10 turns.
This is a stupid question, but is Fasting sacrificed or destroyed? Everyone that I've ever seen talk about it says that it's bad because it sacs. But everywhere that I know to look (Scryfall, Gatherer) just says that it's destroyed.Couldn't I just use Avacyn, Angel of Hope or another similar card to negate every downside Fasting has? What am I missing?
>>97179335>I like the "costal floods washing sea monster onto the shore" vibe much more. maybe put some boats in pirates in for good measure.Fucking based.My orc deck was inspired by "I want to be the orc army from Warcraft 2 with skellies and funny orc guys". Decks that make a theme are based and dont have to be B1 jank.
>>97179638It is destroy. It also isn't good, giving up your draw for a turn isn't worth 2 life.
>>97179638It's destroyed and not saccedBut it's bad because it sucks assIt could come in with an indestructible counter and cost 0 and it would still be a terrible card
Someone give me my Gruul horoscope> I dont play green much (have one bant deck)> I love spellslinging> Favorite color red> Enjoying control decks recentlyWhat Gruul commander should I run
>>97179693Wort.
>>97179664Ok, thank you. And I know it's still a crappy effect at face value, but I'm gonna use it in an Aerith, Last Ancient lifegain deck. With Garruk's Uprising and Colossal Majesty I'll still be able to draw cards while using WoBSS or Avacyn to protect it while getting the boosted lifegain through other sources. I don't expect it to be amazing or anything, just thought it was funny. Thanks again.
>>97179693Fuck "spellslinging" you're a cascade player now. Play like 8 spells in one turn
>>97179693How about this dude?
>>97179757>>97179768Interesting ideas. I dont have an enchantment deck so that would be cool. Kaima specializes even more with Aura enchantments. I'll have to see what cards in Gruul even fit that! Both of these guys are cute, and I might have some cards in the old collection that work with them.
>>97179713Hmmmm This is more like my Izzet decks. Which I do enjoy a lot.
>>97179266Jenova and Three Dog
>>97179345>No idea why this guy is a 50 cent rare.he's 5 mana, has to attack to trigger with no haste and needs an established board position. if he gets you the win your opponents deserved it.
thoughts?
>>97179853Three dog seems like it would be very dependent on the commander and easy to interact with.
>>97179861Very strong commander that I've seen almost nobody play for whatever reasonAlso an MVP in my Kresh 99
Just remove a few bits of text and this card goes from 0 to 10
>>97179792As an anon who plays an absolute shit ton of enchantment decks, I'd say between Wildsear and Kaima I couldn't decide.I built Wildsear before I knew about Kaima, but I might have built Kaima instead of I'd known about it.Wildsear lets you play big mana which is a very fun way to play the game.I will also say that I do have an Eriette of the Charmed Apple deck and your mileage with putting auras on your opponents with Kaima is going to vary. It's just very unfortunate but it's fundamentally a lop-sided way to spend resources. Like if every opponent plays 1 creature, you only need 1 creature bigger than all of theirs to be safe from attacks. But if you're putting your resources into enchanting their creatures, you're having to spend 3 times as much in terms of cards and possibly even mana value to keep all their shit enchanted. Maybe because it's goad you can just goad the biggest thing on the board and that will be enough of a problem for everyone to stop you getting targeted, but idk I've never played it.What we really need is more spells like pic related that will quickly and easily put aura tokens on enemy creatures. I think in red green the closest you might get is Become Brutes which I believe puts 2 Monster Role Tokens into play, but I don't remember if it has to be your own creatures and I'm too lazy to look it up.
What's the most efficient combo with Gifts Ungiven and Chakra Meditation?
>>97179861removal check commander
are tall +1/+1 just worse than wide?
>>97179908Don't know, don't care. Don't play Universes Beyond, never will.
>>97179937People run a lot more single target removal than boardwipes, yes.
>>97179937yup. easier to block. easier to remove.
>>97179908neat another card to combo with dopplegang
>>97179951I've seen the exact opposite. Too many people falling for the meme that single target removal is bad.
>>97179963I wish my friends built decks like that. Everyone has like 15+ fucking removal cards so commanders rarely stick unless they do little to nothing
>>97179861KOS #2097
Love this nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>97179951>>97179963i feel like my pod is similar, i'll see just as many if not more board wipes compared to single target creature removal
>>97179972Grass is always greener, I'd love to see more single target removal instead of seeing a wipe thrown out every time there are more than 3 creatures on the board.
>>97179266Flip Avacyn. A friend gave it to me back in like 2018 and it's basically just generic boros good stuff. It's not very fun and honestly doesn't do much but I'm not sure what I'd do with her. I was thinking maybe a burn deck that relies on flickering her and then saccing stuff to flip her over and over. Pair that with Brash Taunter like effects maybe.
>>97179861Why does this card get to have trample and haste what the hell is wrong with this game
>>97179991cards have to do the thing if they cant do the thing people wont buy our products anon
>Why are there good cards good?!>You're playing an off meta commander, pffft, weak shit.
>>97179792>>97179895Ahem. And note that it's an ability of the auras, not one that they grant to the creatures, so you get all the treasure.
>>97179991Black and green have always had haste
this sucks to play so much
>>97180040It's not nothing, but it's 1 mana per aura. Definitely include it in a Kaima deck, but the point I'm getting at is it's very hard to get a "mana positive" mass aura spell if that makes sense. Like Asinine Antics, 4 mana, could hit an entire 50 creature board.
>>97179980They don't even try with flavor text anymore.
>>97180064I wasn't making a point about color identity.
>>97180081post your list faggot so we can see how you fail at this commander- if is not a win / loss thing and just a "fun" thing maybe try a mono color red commander.
>>97179980>I love to cheatUBtourist moment
>>97180142Goblin coomer art is the only acceptable coomer art
>>97180081
>>97180147Yes. I love cheating out big mother fuckers. I will not apologize for this.
there is thankfully 0 reason for anyone to play spiderman cards
>>97180141Then why are you complaining.>oh no another keyword soup mythic because keywords are strong whatever shall I do
>>97180142it's fun, already got plenty of mono red decks and it spoiled me rotten
>>97179980I still don't get what web slinging is supposed to represent flavorfully. Why would you need to return a different tapped creature in order to "swing into action"?
>>97180148okay pedo
>>97180210I think he's thwipping people out of harm's way
>>97180169Yeah you basically got it.
>>97180214Nice meme
>>97179895>What we really need is more spells like pic related that will quickly and easily put aura tokens on enemy creatures.Ya I run that in Third Doctor since they are non creature tokens. Asinine Antics is an interesting card for sure.
>>97179944Classic poopdickschizo post
>>97180272argument over, he said his forced meme.
>>97180241Idk it still just doesn't grok for me. That would make sense if the mechanic was called rescue or something.
>>97179350would tap that savannah for days
>>97180283this but unironically
>>97180241It really should be instant speed to thematically make sense
>>97179350I'd like to sea her underground, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
deck around these two gonna be fine for bracket 3?
>>97180313can you explain pls?
>>97180324the "art" and "artist's" name are truly amazing!
>>97180313You basically can
> The village idiot at my LGS told me I should stop running partner commanders.> Huh? Why?> They are too slow to be good....
>>97180324>is a warded commander that exponentially increases the size of your entire board good
>>97180366Im rather concerned in the opposite direction
>>97179350>People are actually responding positively to this low effort slopEvery day I think I can't be more disgusted with this general and then I'm wrong.
>>97180388Bracket 3 is more decided by how well put together the 99 is than the raw power of the commander from my experience. Most things are viable if you build them right.
>>97180388He's like Voja, anyone who played against him before will focus you down
Booked or cooked?
>>97180456They should have made yuna fling enchantments so you can build a yunabomber deck big miss wotc
>>97180338slow this
>>97180456Your commander alone costs more than my decks truth nuke.
>>97180456>UB slopWhichever is the worse one between "booked and cooked"
>>97180456>Open image>Bant>Close image
are exile decks fun?
>>97180513these are just food chain squee decks
>>97180513for you? yesfor those who need to wait for you to resolve a million triggers? no
>>97180513they are very fun
>>97180513I love mine
>>97180464>>97180490Two votes for booked>>97180508>>97180509Two troons say cookedLooks like the men have it
someone across the room at the store on friday was having a complete freakout over someone playing a blood moon
>>97180541>Playing UB with a "cute girl" as the commander>UB that isn't real magic just like how he isn't a real woman>Calling anyone else a troonBig kek
is there a single commander or deck type /edhg/ wont whine about? even stompy is no longer ok because of keyword soups on new cards
>>97180551Any for of land destruction or land disruption causes autists and troons to sperg out. It's really stupid when combined with WotC pushing landfall, earthbending and other land mechanics that no one is allowed to interact with because it's "mean" and "unfun"
>>97180551>Bought a precon to start trying to play commander>Sleeved it up at the store>Joined a table>Someone played blood moon against me>Had 5 lands, all of them non-basic because most of precons have non-basicsI didn't throw a fit, but I was pretty salty.
>>97180541You have liberally interpreted my post as a vote for booked. I actually think your ub pile should be set aflame.
how about a cute woman as commander
>>97180564trannies are the ones casting blood moons anon
>>97180561Anything that doesn't let them win causes them to seethe and complain. They hate literally every archetype other that slow battle cruiser Timmy decks that win with combat damage.
>>97180561I will not complain about a commander deck made of only cards from 5th edition
>>97180551last time at LGS me and a random both had mono red decks and when he whipped out blood moon, one guy quit the table saying we're doing this on purpose good times
>>97180572THE QUEEN >OF GREEN
>>97180575Blood moon is the most based card in mtg history besides lightning bolt. If you don't appreciate blood moon, you're the tranny.
>>97180577you sure about that?
>>97180588in my area at least the queers are the ones being complete boomer hipsters with magic and all the sweaty-struggling-to-breathe neckbeards in their 40s are the ones flocking back to the game because their favorite degen comic shit is the game now.
I physically cringe at the idea of building anything in more than 2 colors simply because i feel like the deck would lose cohesion visually,
it's just the americans being obsessed with trannies isn't it?
>>97180456Based but wheres your promo wedding Yuna?
>>97180565It is weird how often precons have not only less basics then they should as a budget entry piece but also a lot of shit enter tapped lands.
>>97180612just have to color organize your lands and board.
>>97180603In Los Angeles it's the complete opposite, and most of the hipster boomers are in shape former military chads while the rainbow hair queens play anime proxied cedh net decks, or UB pigslop.
>>97180551>someone plays blood moon>one player is mono red>other player is getting all his mana from rocks>all my no-basics are tap-for-colorless utility>"oh sweet, mana fixed"
>>97180619It's probably because they expect precon players to absolutely never under any circumstances mulligan properly.
>>97180541Explain to me how cooked is the bad one here.Right I get "we're cooked chat", fine. But if you're cooking, you're doing something well, right? So if you DID something well, then you cooked, past tense.
>>97180623>and most of the hipster boomers are in shape former military chadsjust ask them on a date anon
>>97180615It's because our propaganda media and education systen promotes troons more than any other country does. If you're a euro, you simply never will be able to understand how bad it really is here.
>>97180633Stop projecting your gayness on to me tubs. I'm one of the said in shape former military chads who plays hipster boomer decks.
>>97180650when you die can i have your magic collection
>>97180615Its a population about the same size as the tranny population, but they generally are more aggressive about their hatred than trannies are about their own identities
>>97180484based
>>97179428How are you playing him? Post list?
>>97180484Np*casts stp*
>>97180456Your ramp package kind of sucks dude. It's 2020 ramp.
>i like cheating out big things>more into aggro/midrange than control or combo>would like more interaction than e.g. mono red provides>not completely dependent on commander>doesnt make me want to gouge my eyes out in board wipe heavy pod what am I looking for?
>>97180615Legitimately, unironically, actually, non-metaphorically: Every nearby LGS has multiple trans people, one place with the only singles is run by a woman and nothing but trannies. They have disgusting hygiene, smell, are fat balding guys wearing dresses and have nails done while failing to keep up their ‘feminine’ voice. If you leave a pod where they sit at, youll get banned from the store. They are insecure, and even the most mundane thing will set them off. On top of that, they seem to rant endlessly about politics, I stopped going because I was accused of being a republican because I wasn’t participating in some trump/elon ranting, which means Im racist, etc. then, on top of ALLLL that. Most I’ve met are faggy pubstompers, the socially maladjusted idiot that proudly runs edhrec proxy lists against precons and profusely apologizing that the deck went off on a 15 minute turn 3 combo.
>>97180615>everything I don't like is America's faultI frequent /tttt/ and it is wall to wall Yuropoors over there
>>97180572Best I can do is 3 goblins in trenchcoats
>>97180786I don't believe any of this
>>97180786based fuck clowns, necromorphs, and nevrons
>>97180797feel free to visit north austin lgs
>>97180794always was tempted to build these boys but never got around to doing it, you playing them? how is it?
>>97180797Go to any LGS in downtown LA or the San Fernando Valley. You have no idea how bad it really is.
>>97180786I'm glad that the tranny clique in the local area has decided to form pods with ximselves instead of trying to mix with humans
blue players>Dude, blue is the hardest color to play, counter spells involve holding mana, knowing which spells to stop, etcblue players actually>yeah I run 4 free counter spells
>>97180666Not today, satan
>>97180572Rare case where the card art is more attractive than the in canon depiction.
>>97180821Ban all free spells
>>97180809They're very fun, and quite flexible to build. You get to play board police and that's comfy.
>>97180809I ruin tables with them yes.Make them sac all their shit.
>TQI keep trying to build him Voltron because I want a big dumb stompy retard deck with a spotlight on him, but I feel like I'm either not ramping fast enough, or not defending myself enough, and slowly the cards I picked up for him are creeping into more efficient decks.
>>97180778Elves.
>>97180786>They are insecure, and even the most mundane thing will set them off. On top of that, they seem to rant endlessly about politics, I stopped going because I was accused of being a republican because I wasn’t participating in some trump/elon ranting, which means Im racist, etc.The los angeles mtg trannies are exactly the same except instead of wearing dresses they dress like hot topic versions of 1980s crust punks and have rainbow neon hair and excessive piercings and ugly tats.
>>97180778Note that this does not have the "from hand" restriction on cards like Wildsear.If you cast a 10 mana spell and hit a 9 mana spell off the deck, that cascades too.I know you said you don't want to be too dependent on your commander, but consider it.
>>97180839they fold to board wipes
>>97180833Offalsnout!
If trannies in the magic community was as pervasive as this general makes it out to be, there would be a few thread troons posting themselves playing in their thigh highs. They love attention, even negative attention so wouldn't they be here white, pink, and bluing all over the place?
>>97180852>errrrrrm wouldn't reality only exist if an arbitrary fact I just asserted was also happening???No.
>go through my collection and make a dimir hama bloodbender deck>cut most of the staples>want to make blood tokens and pay waterbending costs and a few pet cards>end up with this
>>97180852The thread troons here in this general mass report every antitroon post, especially the truth bombs. It happens every thread. They are smart enough to know not to post selfie of themselves on 4chan because they will become eternal lolcows. Reddit troons don't have this level of self reflection.
>>97180794>they're just goblin commander according to EDHRECamazing
>>97180857It's fine to lie on the Internet. When you spend all day lying and making up shit to be upset about it becomes a problem.
Ahem, today I think I'll build the spellslinger slop , please give me your favorite splashy grixis instant and sorceries my dudes
>>97180833very cool list smokestacks my beloved
>>97180869>>97180786meds
give me chocolate cuties
>>97180872Reality doesn't conform to the arbitrary requirements you impose on it, and no one is under any obligation to disprove the requirements you have invented.I challenge you to go check the post history of "women" on Magic reddits and see how common it is for them to also be posting on tranny boards.
>>97180895The truth hurts, kid.
>>97180872You are sounding like a thread troon yourself, xer.
>>97180911>Trannies are everywhere, everywhere, EVERYWHERE!!!!!>Not here though because reasonsUh huh, sure thing buddy.
>>97180786Not sure if happened
>>97180947Of course it didn't happen. The schizo rambling it was posted in really sells that fact.
>>97180850We LOVE Mr. Piggy he's top tier>>97180871Most magic players bad at deckbuilding, more at 11
>>97180943They are here. They're the biggest snitches to the jannies, and the biggest troon defenders. They also tend to use tranny words, like "chud" for example.