Previous: >>97189707>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQLink your favorite deck on this site. It will breakdown your deck's power level on different axis's. Tell us about what you are surprised about in the results or what you are not surprised about.https://commandersalt.com/
What decks would they play?
>>97197888>why is the lifegain player crying? just remove the enchantmentBecause with his etb doubler the chatterfang player made him lose 80 life.
>>97197938mono whitemardumono blackbant
how to have fun as aggro enjoyer in a pod full of control decks?
>>97197912>Link your favorite deck on this site. It will breakdown your deck's power level on different axis's. Tell us about what you are surprised about in the results or what you are not surprised about.Wow it really likes my Taii Wakeen deck. Says its a solid B3, power 6. I thought it would be a power 5, but I guess I can see why it likes it. It has the potential to draw a million cards, it has a Repercussion, amd obviously good interaction
https://moxfield.com/decks/i5bBudl97EyuMMCGjJPhgAAnyone got any suggestions for this deck? Are any of the cards in Considering a good fit?
>>97197938Jerry is probably EsperGeorge is rakdosElaine is orzhovKramer is gruul but he's also the guy that won't stop building mono red
>TQThis is the score my Axonil deck got, also a power 5
>>97198034All non basic lands are mountains, Jerry
>>97198048https://commandersalt.com/details/deck/cdaaff7688aeea734284bf0e15ab9ec0Bruh it rated my Ojer a 6. Ive had real bad luck with Ojer, I feel like this is the biggest personal miss for me. It also gave my Taii the 6 but that rating feels more reasonable. Ive been thinking about taking Ojer apart, maybe making a different commander with the cards but not sure.
>>97197912>Tell us about what you are surprised about in the results or what you are not surprised about.>Upload deck>Worldgorger Dragon>Jin-Gitaxis, Core-Auger>Better stompy synergy than draw (doesn't list combo)lmao
>>97197912>TQ>power 3 / bracket 1>power 3 / bracket 2>power 4 / bracket 2 x2>power 7 / bracket 3I might have one deck that's slightly stronger than the rest
>>97198048it says none of my decks are past 3
>>97197912>tqNo. I will not do that.
So is this like white weenie deck? Reanimator? Lifegain? What the fuck does this deck even do??? Ugh I'm lost!
>>97198104Classic poopdickschizo post
>>97197912Is the robot right?https://moxfield.com/decks/v0aD8Y8dvkyjwZI4sl7dLA
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97198133Im on the case
>>97198114You run whatever the fuck Izzet archetype you want, except you've got a mana dork on the command zone.Or you Traumatize yourself to deal 30 damage to everyone on attack.
>>97197912I love it when commandersalt says my deck is bracket 2 but edhpowerlevel says its 8.0
It just keeps looking at me, begging me to play it. Whats a deck I should build with it?
>>97198164
>>97198133In the fine print it gave you a 3.9 but appears to have rounded down. Idk why its presuming bracket 1 as a baseline. That list looks line fun but you don't really have wincons and you are hyper synergized around a 5 cost commander. So if your commander is removed you may be somewhat dead in the water.
>>97198068>>97197912Elaborating.I do like the idea of the site, and the further bracket categorization, but some of the comparisons make no sense.Take pic related for example. I understand that efficiency is grouped for shit like fast mana and ramp. How much does focusing more heavily on playing low-to-the-ground hurt a deck's score? A lot of decks don't need to run a high amount of mana acceleration since those can end up being dead draws. What exactly is "win cons" either? If I have two combos I can consistently pull off (even ignoring that the site seems to think Worldgorger is a stompy card and doesn't seem to know about Animate Dead), how does that compare to a deck that's being stuffed with random combos but little consistency? What exactly is "Synergy" anyway?It's a cute site, but I'm probably not going to take it to heart.
>>97198048This fucking site says I'm a fucking 7 because my shitty Mono Red Deck has cEDH staples and I run Gamble and Redirect Lightning.
>>97198191There's an alternate wincon of dazzling theater + monument of oketra + whitemane lion at the end of turn thanks for the (you)
>>97197912>TQMy Eldrazi deck scored an 8.5, which kinda surprises me. I don't have any 2 card bullshit in it.
>>97197912https://moxfield.com/decks/rtzvQHNjrUGX5uRPl_22-QIts the one deck I'm tempted to keep, but I'm done with magic
>>97198203Definitely take it with skepticismIve ran several decks through it and I think its relatively accurate at rating them, but it doesn't see everything
>>97198225And I forgot the pic.
>>97198214Post the deck.
>>97198203Does this answer any of your questions?https://files.catbox.moe/0ca4h3.svg>doesn't seem to know about Animate DeadBased on the FAQ, that's because he doesn't want to program every card in manually.>No crowd sourced data, such as the Scryfall tagger>No card specific logic: there isn't code that says "Assassin's Trophy is removal">Automatic card lookups and parsing. This allows the site to utilize cards as soon as they come out without me having to manually add them to the system
>>97198034>>97198049
>>97198114Classic poopdickschizo post
>>97198305lmao
>>97197912https://commandersalt.com/details/deck/e1fd2b8ba5bb9d5f978bc95d6ffea122He's still got it.
>>97198357>guy named Arcanis the Omnipotent>some sort of planeswalker or energy being coming from places beyond the world that nobody has went to before>has nothing better to do then beat the shit out of randos in an Otarian colosseum for moneyi never understood this guy
>>97198284>because he doesn't want to program every card in manually.I guess, but I don't have the combos.js so I can't say, which is weird to me, because it reads Thassa's Oracle and Doomsday as a combo, but not Animate Dead schenanigans, even though it's existed for a lot longer, which makes me really want to see what's in the file right now (if only to see what else might be in there).
>>97198278Minor disclosure, the Divining Top is getting swapped for a Cathartic Pyre. Thought it'd be a cute addition but the deck doesn't shuffle enough to be useful.I feel like it's throwing a fit over the Lotus Petal, Gamble, and WoF, but those card's aren't exactly breaking anything in this deck.
>>97198371>has nothing better to do then beat the shit out of randos in an Otarian colosseum for moneyEven all-powerful beings have hobbies
>>97198371Arcanis just wants to throw hands sometimes. He's just waiting for Jodah to show up so he can beat his ass too.
Would this be considered pubstompy?
>>97198517>infinites: 9Stop that.
>>97198529but anon it's so fun and smart and the game has to end and you just have to have it
>>97198114It is comical that you cannot comprehend the guy was asking for unique ways to play the deck rather than asking what the standard edhrec strat is>THERE'S NOTHING ELSE YOU CAN DOI've seen you guys say that and then seen people prove you wrong.
>>97198357Arcanis is so cool I wish I had a foil copy of him.
>>97197458throes of chaos
>Dude plays his commander, Niv-mizzet >Puts some aura on it like curiosity, but not, then equips swift foot boots>"Okay, if anyone plays an instant, sorcery, or if I draw a card, I go infinite." and passes>Anim Pakal player looks at their hand, "welp, guess I gotta do this then. Grand abolisherr. Reactions? No, okay cather's crusade and with my Mondrak out already, I'll go ahead and swing my commander at the niv player and make 22gnomes, which are 23/23s for lethat">Niv player seethes that he showed his hand and forced a reaction and cost him the game.When will combotards learn.
>>97198677>showed his handWhat do you mean by this? Everyone with eyes could have read his cards that were on the battlefield and figured this out. There was no hidden information here.
>>97198546Spitball some of those "different" ways to build it nigga. Cmon I want to hear your brilliant ideas.
>>97198708Because he put himself in a situation where he was 99.99% of the way there and acted like he'd won.What kind of Niv player sets up the Curiosity Combo and doesnt have a cheap instant/sorcery to just end the game right there? Dude was a complete retard
>>97198371Might've been there to witness the Karona ascension.
>>97198677He didn't show his hand right here, he just played like a retard. If the combo needs someone to cast an instant or sorcery or for him to draw a card, he should have went in there prepared to DO THE THING THAT STARTS THE COMBO
>>97198729Karona was so retarded everyone just pretended it didn't happen, so that doesn't mean much.
>>97198730>He didn't show his hand right here,I didn't mean literally showed his hand, but yes, don't show your combo until it will go off.
>>97198677I mean dude if there was a player with 22 23/23s in the field it didn't matter what he'd do, barring Cyclonic Rift or similar he was going to kill everyone next turn
>>97198708>>97198730>"Show your hand" - idiom: To allow people to know about intentions that you had previously kept secret:You ESL jeets need to fuck off this site.
people here bragging about winning too much should be throwing games more or king making more often.the bracket rules state that your deck by intent and not just the cards, can change the bracket it is played atand those people who built their 3 or 4 and never lose a game with their friends should be throwing or king making those games to stay within the rulesthe alternative is that you are lying or cheating your friends to bad games
>>97198799>people here bragging about winning too much should be throwing games more or king making more often.I just bust out one of my shitpiles if Im winning too much
i wanna do stompy with one of the kamahldo i do fist with subtheme of fucking with peoples lands or partner heart for gruul/naya for just more generic one?
>>97198814>stomp few games>then play jank that does nothingI'm sure everyone strives to have you on their table
>>97198799the system is designed it for people to be able to reasonably express what to expect from a given game, not to simulate every possible outcome of it
>>97198814>Make a shitpile>Pilot it well and understand how it works because I'm not a mouthbreather>Still walk all over Goodstuff.dec tards who just windmill slam EDHREC pilesIt's a weird feeling
>>97198799The intent of *deckbuilding* matters, not the intent of playing, because the latter is impossible to evaluate. You cannot calculate or account for the skill of the player when judging the quality of a deck.
>>97198814>Regular pod can't handle my 4s, despite they are also 4s.>Build 3s>They still can't handle them>Use slightly upgraded precons>They still can't handle themI honestly don't know how much more shit my piles can get.
>>97198677>Puts some aura on it like curiosity, but not,This?
>>97198864This one is combat damage, so it wouldn't work. He's probably referring to Ophidian Eye.
>>97198854>You cannot calculate or account for the skill of the player when judging the quality of a deck.God, this has been something I've been struggling with recently.I don't play super oppressive, combo-centric, or unfair decks, but alot of people at my LGS make me look like some sort of big brain gigachad because my memepile actually has synergies, interactions, and ways to win outside of my Commander.Theres like 2-3 people at my store who are playing the Naya Toph and it's insane how absolutely fucked they get when I instantly remove Toph and suddenly their deck doesn't work.This community has such a massive problem with actually learning the core fundamentals of Magic. Everyone just thinks none of their cards will ever be messed with
>>97198879>This community has such a massive problem with actually learning the core fundamentals of Magic.Used to be that you started with 60-card and graduated to EDH. Now you have clowns starting with EDH and never learning the value of interaction.
I'm still waiting braniac
>>97198864Wraith bros... Why isn't the deck any good?
>>97198944For the same reason my Brigone deck sucks shit...
>>97198864Think it was this. Which makes his play pattern even less logical now that I'm looking at it, because he could have just played his commander and waited for an instant to be played.
>he runs generous giftCare to explain?
Erinis/Street Urchin, I think I forgot to put in a Wincon, how can I make this less reliant on Erinnis? More multi land drops per turn?
>>97198962its funny because an elephant is not generous at all
>>97198969https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_elephant
>>97198964Just slap like a combo or sum in there lil bro
>>97198969I think it was the persians, but some old empire used to gift elephants. Which seemed, at first a wonderous gift, but the actual cost to feed and house an elephant is enormous and could bankrupt lesser lords because it was such a taboo to give away or get rid of a gift.
>>97198929Niagara, he doesn't have to prove shit, you just have brainworms that drive you to ritual post in a fucking pathetic way. Did it really crawl up you ass , the notion that someone might seek alternative ways to play a commander? Take your fucking meds. >inb4 you become even more obnoxious with your ritual shitposting.
>>97198962Hit anything.
>>97197912Not sure what cranks up the salt on this thing but stax, removal, and MLD sure doesn't seem to do it.
>>97198991It was specifically white elephants, and it still happened all the way to the 19th century; it entered Western vocabulary because P. T Barnum wanted a white elephant for his shows, got it from a noble in Burma, and quickly realized exactly why he got it for so cheap.The thing is that you were usually given it by some king or ruler, and it was a sign of their favour but also a curse since, as you said, they were enormously expensive to mantain and couldn't even be put to work because they were very sensitive and sacred; but you couldn't also let them die, because then you'd be spitting on the king's generosity.
>>97198964Your deck seems a lot more expensive than minehttps://moxfield.com/decks/tbm6BZ1BTUunht7jrHHBgQ
>>97198999>heKek cope. Nice digits though
why don't i see it more often?
>>97198821Fist of Krosa + board wipes all day.
>>97198944Because it's slop.>>97199045The effect is mediocre when you can just run Bala Ged Recovery.
>>97199045I tried it, didn't work
>>971990458 mana to recur one thing to hand isnt a great rate
>>97199045Because spending 8 specifically on spells during a single turn is a whole fucking lot to ask for. He'll only start returning stuff at the end of the game and until then? He's an okayish mana dork.
>>97199043No girls exist on the internet, only femboys and trannies.
>>97199045I would rather run regrowth
>>971990452 cmc dorks that dont produce >=2 mana are just reeeaaaally shit
>>97199087I like 2 cmc dorks that make just one mans if they have a better additional effect.
How does myriad work with vehicles? Do they enter as creatures as if they were crewed?
>>97199129You get a tapped, uncrewed, nnn-creature copy of the vehicle that gets sacced at the end of turn
>>97199129you copy the creature, not the card
>>97199121i had him in my Tayam deck for the expendable counters to remove, then this lil retard required me to exile fine shit from my own graveyard a bit too often
I aint even gonna lie to yall bludsRootrider faun boutta get me finna acting up...
>TQAssessment seems a little off. It marked my theft deck as a D+ for interaction which it's actually one of my most interactive decks.Doesn't seem to understand that even though it's Aristocrats, I'm sacrificing my opponents creatures instead of my own.
>>97199129>707.2: When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by "as . . . enters the battlefield" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, counters, and stickers are not copied.>Example: Chimeric Staff is an artifact that reads, "{X}: Chimeric Staff becomes an X/X artifact creature until end of turn." Clone is a creature that reads, "You may have Clone enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield." After a Staff has become a 5/5 artifact creature, a Clone enters the battlefield as a copy of it. The Clone is an artifact, not a 5/5 artifact creature. (The copy has the Staff's ability, however, and will become a creature if that ability is activated.)>506.3a: If an effect would put a noncreature permanent onto the battlefield attacking or blocking, the permanent does enter the battlefield but it's never considered to be an attacking or blocking permanent.
What is the most fun and Commander and Deck you got?
Been a while since I've seen any HOW2s get posted. These were my favorite part of lurking here
>>97198883Ya know, it's funny.As someone who started with EDH, and who's still pretty much a greenhorn in Magic as I only started in 2017, I will insist that the blame for all the retardation in the format solely falls on the community itself, particularly Reddit and Youtube, as opposed to the format.These idiots have fostered an absolutely abhorrent philosophy for EDH, leading new players into one of three flavors of stupidity:>If anyone touches my stuff or stops me, they're a mean stinky doodoo head>I need to spend a bajillion dollars for my deck to be good>I need to play the most broken, degenerate paint by numbers cEDH slop because that's Real Magic tm.Nobody wants to sit down and help these players understand interaction, card advantage, mana curve, color distribution, etc. Nobody wants to try and preach/teach new players introspection and critical thinking. That's too hard.Want to know the first thing I do after a game of Commander? I take a 5 minute break to think about the game, my deck, and my play.>Did that card I thought I liked live up to expectations?>Dang, GY hate kinda screws me, anything I can do about that?>Did I evaluate the board and Known Information to the best of my ability?And nevermind the fact that sometimes you just have to shrug and say you got unlucky and that by the intrinsic factor of RNG, you cannot win every game.But now you just have the blind leading the blind, because new players either get taught the game by whiny Reddit babies or cEDH sweatlords who are too chickenshit for Legacy.
>>97198981So far I've got Perilous Forays + Land drop Token (Scute Swarm, Nesting Dragon, Omnath) + Land drop Mana (Lotus Cobra, Provisioner, Spelunking) combo, pulling in all basic lands in a turn, which isn't a game winner except Omnath can do (Basic Lands in library x 3) damage which might kill a player. If I've got Black Blade / Tarrian / SkyClave equipped could be enough for lethal but now I'm also looking at it and I don't have any trample enablers.>>97199038Price for mine just comes from Scapeshift and Traveling Chocobo which are $90 together. Yours seems a lot more steal stuff and sac it, I've got another deck for that but how does your deck win?
>>97199181Try again
>>97199045Because Expend fucking sucks. The fact that it's only on spell casts and not abilities, or that it's not somewhat "cumulative" makes it a hilariously weak mechanic.
>>97199187You mean like this?
>>97199218There was a deck for Nazahn that ran him primarily as a Spy Kit tutor and was deceptively powerful because you could stuff your deck full of all the tutors that let you fetch copies of duplicate creature, which are hilariously cheap because EDH is singleton.
>>97199218Fuck yes I've missed these. Got a good laugh out of that, just fuck someone out of every creature in their deck>>97199226>>97199233Keep em coming, I had a whole archive before I stopped lurking here around 2022
>>97199253That's all I've got, they take fucking forever to make with the cut out text method. Like literal hours.
is first doctor + amy pond the most number of cards you can have (virtually) in the command zone or is there a partner + companion combo that can push it out?
>>97199257I just use scryfall and search up the words I want to use and windows+ctrl+s and paste all in one paint file. When did you start saving them?
>>97199230That's pretty funny, could make a pretty good blink toolbox deck with that
>>97197912God this site is absolute misery to use now
>>97199326Chuckled.
>>97199188>Nobody wants to sit down and help these players understand interaction, card advantage, mana curve, color distribution, etc.Those are things that you don't have to be sat down to understand in 60-card. 1v1 games with more consistent decks teach you those things simply through play, compared to 4-way free-for-all with wildly inconsistent decks. The number of games you can play without seeing a given card that's in your deck makes it inherently more difficult to evaluate how a given change impacts the deck's performance, and the fact that a less threatening board state will lead to your opponents focusing on each other rather than you prevents you from realizing exactly how ineffectual your deck might be.
Working on some card proxies for an ATHF theme deck. Someone here suggested Grim Lavamancer for Frylock and it worked really well, I filtered Birthday Snake through sloppa and got pic rel.I'm looking to make a second card for frylock using Joshua, Phoenix's Dominant as the template.Any suggestions for some scenes I should use?
>>97199326Fuck me, that's good.
>>97199326I don't get it
>>97199349Malfegor for Shake, just because one with nothing isn't a creature>>97199326Jejeje
>>97199369>Malfegor for ShakeDone and done.And I mean done. I'm going to do another of him using Tiny Bones though
>>97199121I've really grown to like this guy in my stompy decks
>>97199326Took me a minute
>>97199367You control your opponent.The Omniclown costs 1 less for each clown you control, so the joke is saying your opponent is a clown.
>>97199430explain for the retards in the crowd. Me.
>>97199367Omniclown Collosus costs 8RR but 1 less for each Clown you Control, you control your opponent due to Emrakul, you pay 7RR because because your opponent is a clown (derogatory term)
>>97199425Rick Boogs? Is that you?
>>97199200shoutout to prerelease where me and opp thought expend included abilities and he had equipment and it seemed like a nutty mechanic
New blight mechanic might make things interesting. Finally.
>>97199540will it? it seems like its just gunna enable opponents to put counters on their chumps instead of you getting to put them on things you want.
>>97199290
>>97199566Well, depending on all the cards that blight, you might be able to do it to the point they don't have a choice or you could force them onto higher prio targets.We'll have to see, but there's a good chance that might just end up being the case
>>97199445See >>97199443
>>97199253>>97199187Not the same format, but I have this with the filename
>>97199172Honestly she's cute enough for a slot. I wish there was a cute girl satyr option in the command zone. Besides Gallia.
>>97199607Gallia's only flaw is having shaved armpits. She would NOT.
>>97198677That's not even a combo, that's bracket 2 saffronolive level preddit jank
>>97199670So you're an idiot?
>>97199172On God?
>>97199416>not even an actual Shake quote as the flavor textHoly mother of actual slop
>>97199592God, I love Dawn's Truce so much. Such a fun card. I even got a print of it. Which reminds me, I need to get it framed...
>>97199592I hate cards like Dawn's Truce because they're so fucking good they make me want to include them in all my white decks
>>97199731And it's beautiful too. And you might occassionally stuff a lab-man win with the forced draw. It's truly the perfect card design in the modern age.
>>97199628Fair and godo point. But Gallia is also missing the cute massive horns Rootrider Faun has. Gallia's are down right puny.
>>97199253>>97199592>>97199728
>>97199695You're a noob
>>97199746So you're an idiot.
>>97199731>>97199739Bloomburrow was the last actually good set. This is the highlight for me, probably one of the best commander board wipes
>>97199722If I wanted to put a shake quote there. It would be "I have the power of 1,000 suns."I'm going with the lyrics though because I'm using Schoolly D.'s lyrics on the main three where I can fit him. Rock You Like a Cop is the flip side of Joshua, Phoenix dominant because it matches white color identity more.
>>97199758Ok I respect that
>Did I play a land or not this turn?
>>97199772My pod does this all the time too, and my favorite part is "okay, on my end step, I draw a card. Did I play a land this turn? I don't think so, I'm going to play a land now."FFS. Pay attention.
>>97199753agreed. and it sold well too. we'll see whether they learned a thing at all in lorwyn i think, but i doubt it.
>>97199744The fact they removed any reference to drinking from Gallia's card is a fucking crime
>>97199772i eat the loss every time and i judge people who can't help themselves as undisciplined and unable to hold themselves accountable in life
>>97199794But they kept the nigga shoving the banana up the lady's ass
>>97199794That is still ridiculous. That's something I'd expect from early Yu-Gi-Oh or something. Not a game with cards literally called Murder and that depict people dying.
>>97199172
>>97199187Rampage and banding are good together, hence why they hate them both, despite both being good design when your players aren't retarded.
I want to make a deck with a proxy of Ed as my commander. Which legend would make the best Ed deck? I expect it should be food related, maybe Ragost
>>97199875why does everything have to reference other media directly even if it has zero relation in setting or tone
>>97199879Because its fun.
>>97199875rocco street chef or gyome
>>97199882It isn't.
>>97199893It is if you're not terminal retard who takes himself and his cardboard too seriously.
>>97199875should 100% be this nigga
>>97199879If UB slop is allowed I will atleast create UB that I enjoy
>>97199879We've been doing that for at least 30 years. Anyone got that old magazine article where they made IP cards?
>>97199913
>>97199875Considering Magic has a deal with Nickelodeon and panders to outdated nostalgia IPs all the time, there's legitimately a greater than 0 chance of them just doing it. Probably as a Secret Lair>>97199905Yeah bro anyone who has different priorities to you is taking things "too seriously", luckily you take things exactly as seriously as you should and this is in no way just your own bias to assume that you are own opinions are more valid than others
>>97199917Disingenuous faggot.
Part of me really wants to make a mouse deck solely because I like Redwall but really what is the win condition here other than just expensive good stuff equipments? Combat instants?
Would this count as UB now?
>>97199906Damn he's the perfect Ed. Thanks fren
>>97199875How's this gonna work?Good Burger is a pretty limited IP to with with if you're trying to make proxies for the full deck
>>97199937It's an aggro deck. You either want ETBs, huge creatures, or effects that trigger on making contact with your opponents
Stop enjoying things. Stop having fun. That's not magic.
>>97199952I'd probably just make a special Ed commander card and possibly proxy the lands as burgers or images of the good burger restaurant. The rest of the deck can be regular magic cards. I hate Kenan's character in good burger so I wouldn't want to include him.
>>97199940Mythology is not UB. You are aware of this and just shitposting, but I have free time
>>97199960Well I wanted to do mainly just mouse tribal
>>97199964The bible is real chud.
>>97199964>Mythology is not UBSo would Mothman not be UB since he's a cryptid?
>>97198962Funny to trigger autists playing gaeas cradleAlso wtf is this new captcha is gookmoot really this desperate for shekels?
>>97199962>possibly proxy the lands as burgers or images of the good burger restaurant.AI generate images of parts of a Good Burger. You wouldn't need all 5 with Gyome but:>plains = seating>forest = play area (did they have that in the show/movie? don't fucking remember, but its outside so...)>swamp = bathroom>island = cleaning station>mountain = grill
I'm tried of loudly announcing my creature has ward, only to have someone waste a spell, only to have to let them take it back because they forgot to pay.
Ok I want to have an actual conversation about Kithkins. With the upcoming set, what could they possible do to make this tribal not just a meme? The issue with majority of Kithkin cards is that they just suck, at least for commander mainly due to being printed 20 years agoWhat extra color could they add to a commander aside from GW. Should they go all in with all the available colors and have a GWRB kithkin?
>>97199930How is this disingenuous? People have done IP proxies for ages. Your issue is solely because UB now exists.
>>97199973If it wasn't Fallout Mothman and instead they had a set that just had folklore creatures in it, then that wouldn't be UB.Are you really going to sit here and pretend that UB isn't 3rd party intellectual property deals between WotC and other companies?
>>97199978Don't let them take it back then
>>97199983>PeopleThe company Wizards of the Coast?
>>97199984I absolutely consider shit like euro lands and Arabian Nights to be UB. I don't care if you do. I do.
>>97199937>>97199967There really isn't enough mice to go with mouse tribal. You'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel really. Redwall always had a decent variety of animals around in the abbey and in the stories so you'd still be mostly in theme with badgers and the other stuff from Bloomburrow.
>>97199961If there was a billion dollar Cocomelon set and WotC decided that 50% of sets going forward were going to be aimed at toddlers, how would you feel?
>>97199983NTA the only problem I have with this is crowd-thinking shit like this isn't talking about EDH. "Hey 4chan tell me what to photoshop on my proxies" is even less engaging than "Hey 4chan build my deck for me". If you wanna talk about food decks, lets talk about food decks.
>>97199986And then let entire pod not want to play again because I'm "not being casual in the casual format?"
>>97199989What the fuck are you talking about? A Proxy of good burger man isn't WOTC
>playing my Vren deck>one sided board wipe>I now have 15 x 16/16 rats>next guy spends all his mana on a creature board wipe for just me>oh well easy come easy go>next guy still has all his enchantments and aritfacts and is playing solitaire with a million triggers that I'm just assuming he's telling the truth about>next guy takes a phone call and scoops>i try to rebuild my board>guy who board wiped me does it again>guy still playing solitaire just solitaires a winI don't know whether it's good that I was a threat to need to be board wiped twice or that guy just hated me
>>97199991Kek being a retard is your prerogative I guess.This is like saying >I absolutely consider shit like water and orange juice to be Coca Cola. I don't care if you do. I do.
>>97199998Fine a different pod. There's like 70 people in the store.
>>97199977It would be funnier if I made all the lands just be different AI generated images of the good burger restaurant but painted like a jmw Turner or Constable painting. And all the food tokens would be goodburgers of course
>>97200004Ok.
>>97199996I'd play the sets I like and ignore the ones I don't
>>97200009LIAR!
>>97200009The Cocomelon cards are busted as shit and you are actively disadvantaging yourself by not playing them. You also cannot avoid other people playing them at your tables. Oh and year on year the toddler sets begin to outnumber the normal sets more and more despite MaRo constantly assuring you it wouldn't happen
>>97200014I don't care and play the sets that I like. If I cared about power I'd play YGO over magic
>>97200006I'd stan UB Bluey
>>97200009No, you see, That is letting the slop win. You need to not play any set after the last set you liked and complain all day on the internet about how its not magic anymore.
>>97200023Love Bluey, would still hate Bluey UB.A U T I S MS M U S H
>>97200024He literally just said he would only play sets he liked right here >>97200022Owned yourself
is this supposed to be impressive?
>>97200041>I LOVE PLAYING LESS COMMANDER IN GAMES OF COMMANDER!I will never fucking understand this mentality
>>97199875Kek just rediscovered this gem because of this post.They should play this at all FNM, it is the Magic anthemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMODweN8lQ>I'm a dude>He's a dude>She's a dude>We're all dudes, hey!
Fucking disgusting board state tonight:>playing asuza into two monoblue players (yshtola and watcher in the water) and naya toph>yshtola player builds out a thick board of tokens and mills out half of everyone's deck from altar of the brood + panharmonicon>I ezuri's predation and get 22 big bois>yshtola player goes before me, taps down a bunch of my tokens so I can't swing out. toph player activates the stasis coffin to peace out>swing 8 beasts into each of the monoblue players, eat an aetherize>get milled for more>cast finale of devastation x = 7 and get lumra, one billion lands etb>cast another two maro-sorcerers>they keep getting tapped down from two junk winders>play ashaya>winThe faggot who says longer games are worse because late game board states are grindy and thus boring couldn't be more wrong, this game was a thriller from turn 4 on
>>97200045winning fast=better at the game than other winners. winning is all that matters. WINNING
>>97200045When you end up losing, there is some idiotic defense mechanism to say "yeah, well my deck is only worth 50 dollars,and did well so I really won at life" or "I had a bad start, when I have a better one I can win in x turns"
>>97200041The guy took the Distraction Maker's approach to deck building to "be like a game designer" i.e. really double down on the card's mechanics. Which is all fine and well, but the problem stands that he has shown nothing but Christmas Land scenerios and has said in every single video>we're goldfishing, lets assume no one has removal for usWhich is a major red flag as absolutely nothing is certain in rando tables, let alone your friends who know what you're doing. His decks are like magic tricks: great to show off, but people will catch on.
>>97200064Yeah bizarre to me. It's the fun fuck-around format.Genuinely believe sweats who couldn't hack it in 1v1 formats come here to feel like big fish in a small pond. That sperg CGB is one of them, honestly.
>>97200072>nothing but Christmas LandRararararan
>>97200063you faggot, what you just posted wasn't a grindy game at allyour pod just answered each other's wincons and you happened to be the last man standing with an active wincon, that's what cedh does except it's turns 1-3 instead of turns 10-15
Are simulators like Forge a good reference for interactions and rules or are they known for getting some things wrong sometimes?
>>97200064I had a Malcolm/Kediss deck that aims for one of the many 3-card infinite combos (including Malcolm) and could consistently win by turn 4/5 and it was fun the first few times but then got boring playing basically the same combos each time. I changed it up so it's mostly pirates now which is shitter/funner
>>97200054That song was a banger when it came out and is still a banger today. It also perfectly represents the average LGS. Ed makes slop burgers so he's perfect for a custom UB proxy.https://youtu.be/sT0Qgy6gv_4?si=sIqBee4-69bwt4Mc
>>97200072I think it's actually smarter to goldfish as though nothing is stopping you to get the synergies down and explore the deck, and then start clocking yourself and assuming answers. I think a lot of decks are too eager to start from a suite of protection and interactions staples and miss out on more fun alternatives and thematic options.Generally getting the deck to work up front is a matter of "can I win on turn x"; once you know it can do that, you can start having a more reasonable and realistic look at what turn you're actually going to be able to piece things together, what you need to delay or look out for and backup plans for when you get wiped.
>>97200073>Genuinely believe sweats who couldn't hack it in 1v1 formats come here to feel like big fish in a small pondthis might come as a shock to you but a lot of tournament grinders are retiring into edh, you really think 40 year olds are going to grind as if they're still 20? your naivety betrays you
>>97200101>?si=sIqBee4-69bwt4McAll of this is a tracker in the URL and you don't need it for the link to work.It's nothing to be concerned about, but for analytics purposes it will show YouTube who you share videos with. You can delete it manually, or browsers like Brave have functions to cut it out automatically.
>>97199172Here you go.
>>97200122She ain't wearing no pants.
>>97200099>I changed it up so it's mostly pirates now which is shitter/funner>but no i'm still going to use Malcolm/Kediss because fuck no i'm not going to play a retarded casual commander like Edwardcongrats, you're exactly like the kinnan players that begged wotc to have him removed from GC status
>>97200119I wish CGB would retire from the internet.
>>97200120I'll do that from now on sir
>>97200125hey man, I know you think you are a master troll, baiting all who dare look upon ye works and despair. But can you stop, your constant strawmanning hasn't improved at all in months.
>>97200090I see you're still here, senor faggissimo! None of this shit could have happened without the mana base that exists from developing the game for multiple turns!
>>97200128i don't watch CGB but given the likelihood of an mtg cc being shit i'll take your word about himjust pointing out that saying sweats are just compensating in edh is foolish, as if tournament grinders don't grow old or something
>>97200132>completely admits to using CEDH commanders as a crutch>but yeah sweats are cringe amirite guys? haha...lol
>>97200113I just goldfish it as "is my board ridiculous by turn 8?"If the answer is yes, then I usually have enough going on that I can recover from interactions and board wipes and it would take really aggressive stax to shut me down
>>97199670>1 card combo with commander>bracket 2
Is it okay to not be very clever or flashy?
>>97200137Cool, just keep shitting yourself.
>>97200120Fuck off
>>97200122Even cuter when you can see the full shot of her. Where did you get the full art? Been trying to find some of these and most of the time the art is just not around or maybe it's in low quality on an artist's random personal site.
>>97200134>given the likelihood of an mtg cc being shit i'll take your word about himHe's just really cringe. Something like 40 years old, constantly calling himself "a blue mage" and cackling about how he loves playing control. He placed at a youth tournament in the 90s or some shit and it's the only time he's ever been competitively relevant but he still talks about sets and power levels as if he knows more than the average scrub on Arena
>>97200133>None of this shit could have happened without the mana base that exists from developing the game for multiple turns!ofc, because you just happen to play at a lower power levelcome back to me when people are hellbent and the board is cleareveryone topdecking for advantage? that's the real grind
>>97200151Sorry, Mr Mohan your mother's izzat has been fucked
>>97200146four colors is never acceptable
>>97200146Better than the CEDH partners just because they are CEDH partners.
>>97200157That game was extremely fun, so you're not selling me (or most people, given the reactions you got the last few threads) on having a higher power level
>>97200147thanks btw
>>97200170i never said you play cedhi'm just saying that quicker games are better than longer games, as you have just shown; imagine if your ashaya was somehow countered and you got board wipedweeee everyone's resources are exhausted and everyone's topdecking, such fun
>>97200142It's not really a combo. It's more of a jank synergy that was easily disrupted and stopped.
>Casting a card on your commander that will instantly win you the game is not a combo
>>97200200Didn't it require someone to attack him? That's a jank synergy, not an instawin cedh combo, you autistic noob.
>>97200206
>>97200205>Didn't it require someone to attack him?No, idiot. It required him or someone else to play an instant or sorcery or to let him draw and the retard wasn't smart enough to set the chain of itself.This was at one point CEDH tier. The exact same combo
>>97200210>This was at one point CEDH tieryes and he now resides in B4 along with the rest of the former CEDH allstars>yes B4 is kind of a no-man's land, too strong for B3 below but not sweaty enough for B5
>>97200210mf was outed as a fraud once jewlotus got banned.
>>97200210Several years ago this jank was tier 1 lol
>>97200220>Its not a combo and bracket 2 jank to OMG ITS ONLY BRACKET 4Okay.
>>97200225sorry but i'm not the anon arguing thatI just wanted to say niv is b4, because a lot of people think their best deck is automatically b4 just because it has more than 3 GCs
>>97200225Stop sperging out bro.
>>97200181That is also fun, yes. You suddenly have to piece together something with your current board. Like I know you think there is just one form of fun which is "Turbocharged Engine Resolution" but there's also "Making An Engine Out Of Nothing" as well as "Slugging It Out Because There's Nothing Better To Do"
>>97199875I think I'm going to name him either >Ed, Keeper of the Order or >Ed, Lord of Good Burger
>>97200265Sauce Savant
>>97200264did you hear that gavin? promote MLD!people love long games!
>>97200271
>>97200271>Secret Sauce Savant
>>97200271This one
>>97197989Play Johnny BWatch them shit themselves in frustration as you literally always have protection in hand
>>97200327I want to play this
>>97200327Giving your opponents a huge amount of cards is the dumbest possible thing you can do.
>>97200330it's the smartest thing actually
>>97200330Sort of. Depending how large you can get John Benton, and your own curve, you can quickly create a situation in which your opponent will have more than they know what to do with.Green White with a low-mid curve? Dumping your hand is very easy if you hit some early ramp.Couple that with some hatebears or Rule of Law effects and theyll drown in their own value.
>>97200330No. It isn't. Because you are drawing more than them and still have the advantage
>Let me hit you hehe I will give you cards>Ok :D>Ok first let me get his power to 21
Do people actually hate playing against gravepact?
>>97200356yes? people hate edicts
>>97200356Yes. Very much so. I don't think I ever see tables turn against someone faster than when someone drops any kind of edict effect.
>>97200363>build deck that's repeatable edicts and discard>whole table targets me then tells the pod in the next game to target me
>>97200356No, anon. I love the mono black asshole looping a skeleton with blood artist pinging me and wiping my board.
>>97200349>>97200351You draw them in to their wincons and answers. It's the definition of literal retardation.
>>97200356Buzz buzz.
>>97197938What's the deal with universes beyond?
>>97200381me in the middle
>>97200119NTA but youre missing that guys point.Nobody minds oldheads coming into the format to chill, but when you look at WACfags and ALOT of the cEDH playerbase, it quickly becomes clear alot of them are massive wussies who have the capital/budget to play in a format like Legacy, but would much prefer to stay in their safe little bubble where you essentially start with a nine card hand and cards that in some cases are literally too busted for Vintage.It's why even after like a fucking decade of pic related being a meme, cEDHfags/Spikes have never had a response.Because they know damn well if they wanted to be competitive and tryhard, they could pick and engage with literally any other format.But they don't.They don't because they want to be a big fish in a small pond that gives you training wheels.Because deep down most cEDH/WAACfags are dogshit at actual magic.
>>97200119>>97200394Damn, forgot my meme.
>>97200394Most cEDH players are actually poor fag reddit they thems with entirely proxied decks, shitty tattoos and piercings and rainbow hair.
>>97200397This guy is literally me
>>97200397>>97200418I played my Vren deck and literally said "On my end step, I make a new rat" that meme got me good
I just found out that Mystic Sanctuary is an island
>>97200505yeahh boi
There's alot of hot elves but like zero hot elf commandersLorwyn is at least giving us a bangable elf commander, even though she's not THAT hot
>>97200374And you yourself draw your answers and win cons but more of them.You are looking at this in a vacuum where you have not constructed your deck in any way to downplay the negative and enhance the positive.You're a shit deck builder
>>97200510I'd fuck Tyvar
>>97200516You play vs shit opponents
>>97200543>I play in bracket 3+Sounds like a personal problem desu senpai
>>97200510She's fat and has 2 chins
>Friend is making a rat deck with Wick>Also want to make a rat deckThink there is any merit to this really, or should I just do something else?
>>97200394>>97200397>Nobody minds oldheads coming into the format to chill.>Damn, forgot my meme.so basically your long post is about "yeah i got pubstomped by cedh people who don't know to stay in their lane"yes, there will always be bad sports in the world, but i'd argue that the mean person who bullied your pod is actually someone who couldn't hack it in actual cedh pods, the person you hate is not actually the oldheads that are retiring from the grind; the latter group know better than to bully around weaker players>cEDHfags/Spikes have never had a response.the response was made official in February of this year.but let me guess, you hate brackets lol
>>97200556So does your mom but she still sees plenty of action
>>97200683My mom's a whore
>>97200634Brackets did not, are not, and will not ever work and not a single sane person who isn't guzzling Gavin's cock and begging for more UB use or want them.
I hope Dukat's card gives your opponents Bajoran tokens so you can kill them.
>>97198133>>97198191made a few changes, anyone have some thoughts before I build it?
>>97197938Kramer would have a hyper efficient bracket 2 mono-white deck like Myrel that he constantly plays against Newman's hyper efficient mono-black Marrow Gnawer/rat colony deck in Brawl style matches. Newman breaks the gentleman's code by including Maha which Kramer claims makes it a bracket 3 deck since including an owl no longer makes it themed while Newman argues it's fine from a combo/game changer perspective.George plays Ur-Dragon because he likes that WURBG lets him play all the best cards. He plays the deck straight though and only uses dragons alongside a cheap mostly basics mana base and keeps getting angry he loses.Jerry plays Krenko because the deck is cheap, effective, he likes goblins as a classic fantasy archetype and the actual color red in general. Coerced into attending fnm at the synagogue, Jerry gets accused of playing goblins because his opponents (who he beat) claim they perpetrate an insulting Jewish stereotype and they were distracted. Elaine doesn't care until she meets a gigachad who rocks her world but says he can't date someone who doesn't play magic. She winds up getting hard into the game and puts together a busted Izzet comboslop deck which wins on T4 which disgusts Gigachad (who plays selesnya battlecruiser) and she winds up playing with a bunch of cEDH obese lards who are in awe of her skills.
>>97200797pretty good there, anon
>>97200510Marwyn is (literally) built for breeding and Lathril is extremely attractive in an "cute-ish face on top of a sculpted olympian athlete fuck machine body" way.
>>97200755>he hates bracketsi'm shocked, shocked i tell youoh well, enjoy being pubstomped then lmao
>>97200755>UB bad!sell me on UW first you schizo
>>97200839Brackets hasn't stopped pubstomping you retard. That's exactly why they don't work.
>>97200510>There's alot of hot elves but like zero hot elf commanders>marwyn>kaysa>yennayeah, you just have three to work with
>>97200797>Jerry plays Krenko because the deck is cheap, effective, he likes goblins as a classic fantasy archetype and the actual color red in general. Coerced into attending fnm at the synagogue, Jerry gets accused of playing goblins because his opponents (who he beat) claim they perpetrate an insulting Jewish stereotype and they were distracted.fucking lmao
I need help Yuna bros.I have 4 free slots that I filled with counter doublers, but the problem is these also turbo through my summons which I want to swing with at least once. However, they also turbo charge non-summon creatures since on average they're leaving the field with 5-7 counters which means I can dump 10+ on Yuna or another creature...but I don't have that many non-saga creatures in the deck that have evasion and if Yuna gets removed I'm basically turboing through saga creatures who don't stay long enough to swing.Should I replace the doublers with hardened scale style "just put an extra +1" cards? Or should I just trust in the heart of the cards and hope I'll have the other Yuna or Rikku out to dump counters on and swing? What's your experience with her at IRL tables?
>>97200863>Brackets hasn't stopped pubstomping you retardwtf i didn't realize the legacy deck is pubstomping our standard fnm right fucking now holy shit i didn't even see it!!
I think I'm stupid but how does one make obeka brute chronologist work?? I assume it's properly stacking triggers for a benefit but I'm not rule savvy enough to really understand the main combos/synergy pieces
>>97200886Post your list, I'm looking to tweak my precon and not just have it turbo in to the FftR combo
>>97200905if you can't even look up obeka's edhrec page there's no helping you
>>97200883you forgot the sexiest and cutest elf commander
>>97200910Literally did and that's why I'm asking why the fuck those card are synergistic like how the fuck do I make "last chance" work when it loses me the game what rule tomfoolery am I missing
>>97200929What happens if you end the turn while a trigger is on the stack?
>>97200933Does it cancel it out? Is end step different from end turn
>>97200947>doesn't RTFCyep, absolutely hopeless
>>97200947When you draw a card is it different from the draw step?
just found out aikido decks are a thingi like the idea of people just killing themselves and having something like repercussion + blasphemous act or casting star of extinction with brash taunter out to blast someone for 20do people find them salty or not really? never seen a deck like this in the wild so can't really say but I can imagine it feels similar to playing against control decks
>>97200755based and objectively correct.
>>97200908I will tomorrow I'm just phone posting from bed right meow and can't sleep some I'm pondering decks.
>>97200994Understandable. I unfortunately sit at my PC in my insomniac state and have about a half dozen half finished decks all over my desk. Maybe I should finish one in the next month or so.
>>97200974>do people find them salty or not really?combos like repercussion + blasphemous act rely on opponents having creatures to begin with and you have absolutely no control over that; the strongest B3 decks don't even deploy a lot of creatures in the early turnsdon't take anyone being salty about such combos seriously
>>97200356It depends. Are you at a table running 4s? No one gives a shit. Are you not at 4s, but looping and killing all creatures? You are a fagAre you not at 4s, but you played it for the lols? play sothera, harder removal, plus recursion and it self deletes to ease political ass pain
>>97200356I don't really mind, shitters tend to get upset at everything anon, you really shouldn't need to ask for validation for playing grave pact of all cards
>>97200974I had an Imodayne deck that was basically that and I found it hella boring. Real Glass Cannon, sure you can nuke the whole table from Orbit with 2 cards but it's only fun like twice
