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Previous: >>97197912

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
What was your favorite commander released in 2025? According to the Command Zone, its Vivi
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>>97205268
>What was your favorite commander released in 2025?
Big Tiddy Queen of Green
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>TQ
uh oh ubschizo melty incoming
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>>97205282
Is she really worth the hype?
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According to Commandzone my favorite is Vivi?
What?
Anyway, despite the fact she's from a precon, really enjoy her.
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>>97205309
She's extremely hard to fuck up building which certainly adds to the appeal for mono-green
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>>97205317
>According to Commandzone my favorite is Vivi?
>What?
Krekt
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>>97205309
No commander is worth the hype if you need to desperately, and pathetically, cry out she's "the best" constantly. How good they are stand in their own
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>>97205282
Italy approved
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>all the big mana and big draw you want
>all the cool demons
>all the black lifelink payoffs
>won nearly every game on first game night with friends against their bracket 3 decks
>downgraded the deck a little from 200 to 150€
>won nearly every game again on next game night
>against mono white, selesnya and esper
>selesnya player was so mad he scooped and switched to his indestructible angel deck, then lost two more times
it's such a shitty deck, but I guess mana black big mana is just hilariously broken to a point it made my friends question their deck building abilities
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Is my how2 buddy here?
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>>97205350
>mana black
*mono
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>>97205309
If you like oneshotting bitches with a big tiddy Stacy, yed
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>>97205356
I'd like to oneshot inside big tiddy stacy if you catch my drift
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>>97205356
Yes. You oneshot one idiot, and then lose
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>>97205268
>What was your favorite commander released in 2025? According to the Command Zone, its Vivi
I have no idea. I don't use any UB slop, and I don't use any NuMTG commanders.

>>97205282
Pretty based, ngl
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>>97205282
How much would she benefit from unbanning the big three green?

>Prime Time
>Sylvan
>Zesty Elf
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>>97205243
He's only popular because he's been around so long.
He's garbage at the game, he's garbage at evaluating cards, he's garbage at estimating pricing.
He even admitted that he has a fetishistic tranny write his videos and sometimes that means he doesn't even understand the things he's saying.
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>>97205353
Me?
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>>97205397
Primetime would be her husband
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just built my deck off to play it wish me luck
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>>97205268
Simple, fun, and flexible.
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>>97205409
My kitty wishes you luck fren
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>>97205268
>What was your favorite commander released in 2025? According to the Command Zone, its Vivi
Zurgo bros... not like this...
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>>97205399
His preview vid for marvel was hilarious

> prof: this isnt the magic i knew
> troon editor: this is magic now, say it with me
> prof (dead inside) : this is mtg now

Id swear edhg wrote the script for him it was so perfect
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>>97205268
>What was your favorite commander released in 2025? According to the Command Zone, its Vivi
Underrated
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>>97205399
He is good at reviewing sleeves and boxes and shit. That's about it. Honestly never steered me wrong on that.
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What is your favorite 3 color pair?
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>>97205453
Esper (Jund)
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>>97205405
Hey fren, I've got more for you if you're also keeping a collection
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>>97205445
>>>97205282
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

Honestly though, all these "creators" get what they deserve. You can count on 1 hand the number of them that actually gives WotC the shit they deserve
90% of them are just sycophantic and will hype up anything WotC shits out
9% will grumble but then either ultimately get over it or actively promote it on WotCs orders (see Command Zone)
And 1% actually shit on WotC but their videos aren't very good and they don't always hit on the consensus of WotC hate, just rambling about their own grievances instead
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>>97205469
2nd reply was an accident lol
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>tq

Most of the legends in Tarkir compete for this slot, but I like Haste tribal in particular.
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>>97205282
The most trooncore card of 2025.
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>>97205488
this but your favorite commander
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Is this like the only basic land hate card?
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>>97205449
Mechanically interesting. Too bad it's capeshit.
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>>97205508
Good thing I don't care.
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>>97205434
I think this is the only Commander from this year that I'm building. Oh wait, no, I opened up Grixis Azula along with Mai and Ty Lee in the same pack, so I'm doin' that too.
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>>97205519
>>97205282
Coomers deserve death
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>>97205268
>TQ
They finally printed the Sultai sea monster tribal commander I always wanted
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>>97205268
>According to the Command Zone, its Vivi
Legit disgusting. It's just like declaring Nadu your "favorite" commander
>well it's busted so I played it and I won a lot so its my favorite
Genuine insectoid mindset. This used to be a format about fun.
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>>97205488
Breh- why does Tifa, a hot anime girl with boobs, make you think of troons?
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>>97205503
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>nulorwyn will never achieve this level of kino
It hurts...
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>>97205557
The command zone bugmen have no love for this game. They are in it for the money
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>>97205557
>>According to the Command Zone, its Vivi
>Legit disgusting. It's just like declaring Nadu your "favorite" commander
>>well it's busted so I played it and I won a lot so its my favorite
>Genuine insectoid mindset. This used to be a format about fun.
post your favorite commander from 2025
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>>97205618
He wont.
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>>97205579
Because troons love to larp as anime girls because they're fuck-ugly?
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>>97205618
>>97205631
>critique something
>"now you have to give me something about you to critique!!!!!!"
Single digit IQ.
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>>97205579
He is an obsessed /pol/fag
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>>97205638
>>>/reddit/
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>>97205268
I'm a major FF fag and made a lot of decks, but its still this guy
Flyingmen.deck can get extremely fucking nutty when you're drawing 20 cards a turn thanks to Coastal Piracy effects
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>>97205637
>Don't allow me to receive the same level of criticism
Cowardly troon behavior
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>>97205651
I am not one of the biggest Commander youtubers in the world. Why should I be subject to the same level of scrutiny?

If you disagreed with my criticism, you could just explain why it was a bad opinion. Instead you choose to deflect in hopes of fishing for something to use against me.
Tacitly you accept that my criticism was valid.
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>>97205503
>tsunami
>acid rain
>conversion
>flashfires
>boil/boiling seas
>karma
They dont meet gavin's mld definition of "regularly destroy, exile, and bounce other lands, keep lands tapped, or change what mana is produced by four or more lands per player without replacing them" so go for it
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How much removal should my chocobo deck have?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Bring back tuck (BBT)
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>>97205268
>What was your favorite commander released in 2025?
Either this nigga or Toph
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zootopia UB 2027
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>>97205681
>How much removal should my chocobo deck have?
Removal is bad. You go down 1 card to affect only one opponent. Run 0. Let your opponents get baited into wasting resources to fall behind
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>>97205663
>Blah blah blah, why yes, I am too much of a coward to share what I think is good blah blah blah
Yap all you want, cowardly troon.
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>>97205644
Fuckin GOT EM bro
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>>97205763
How the fuck do you even build this thing like holy shit what an actual nightmare
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>>97205809
obsessed retard trying to force a meme. Will kill himself like scrimblofag
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>>97205781
I'll leave the yapping to you
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>>97205809
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>>97205769
Nah it'll be Kardashians. We are Fortnite.
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>>97205637
Yes, that's how it works. If you critique something, you must then prove why your critique has some kind of validity when asked.
That's how critique, and critics, have and gain credibility.
I shouldn't have to tell you this, but here we are.
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>>97205769
Bloomburrow 2 electrick buckaloo?
Sounds great, more rat commanders for me.
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>Have a weak palette and can't handle spicy foods
>Buy a frozen wonton soup
>no indication its spicy on the box
>is spicy
Commanders for this feel and people like me
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>>97205839
>If you critique something, you must then prove why your critique has some kind of validity when asked.
If what I was said was invalid you could point to why.
You are unable to invalidate my critique so you're digging for something to say about me the justify disregarding an otherwise valid critique.

Pretty basic stuff, I'm not sure why you seem to think other people can't see what you're doing.
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>>97205851
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>>97205851
Sounds like you crave control
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>>97205859
not from 2025.
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>>97205871
>I told face that ravnica...
Can't ever unsee it, especially with that chin that could cut diamonds
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>>97205839
Food critics don't have to be chefs. Art critics don't have to be great artists.
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>>97205851
*palate
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>>97205866
I had this just in my 99 and it made me the archenemy the second she was played. People hate losing their dorks.
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>>97205557
>It's just like declaring Nadu your "favorite" commander
Bad news for you nigga this thread had at least 8+ people who built the bird when it was revealed. This is pro Nadu territory. Take your jank shit and leave. Free the bird.
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>>97205899
I have a D&L deck and it never archenemy's me.
People bitch and piss and cry, but I built the deck to just shut down bullshit rather than shutting down the game. It prevents mana cheating, free spells, graveyard shenanigans, tapping lands for extra mana etc etc etc etc but funamentally people can still cast their things and play the game, just at a much more measured pace
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>>97205268
>TQ
the chef lobster, playing the one ring just to flex it can eat it never gets old and confuses the shit out of people
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>>97205903
>we
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>>97205851
Anything mono white
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>>97205633
Troons hate girls with big tits, they only larp as fat anime girls.

Also, your commander isn't meant to be your self insert. In Mtg we are planeswalkers and our commander is simply a military leader who works for us.
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i play commander BTW
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>>97205981
>Troons hate girls with big tits, they only larp as fat anime girls
This is just observably untrue.

>Also, your commander isn't meant to be your self insert. In Mtg we are planeswalkers and our commander is simply a military leader who works for us.
First of all, that doesn't mean that troons won't play the anime girl anyway
Secondly maybe this was how it was imagined in the long long ago, but plenty of commanders now do work on the basis that you are playing as them.

Take Neera for example. If I am casting the spells, why is Neera's wild magic affecting what I cast? It only makes sense if she is casting the spells as a wild magic sorcerer.
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>>97206004
Me too.
I need to figure out what to cut from my insect tribal deck to make way for icetill and molt tender
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>>97205817
Zanzibart... forgive me
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>>97206015
I now can't remember whether I deconstructed my Aatchik deck or not...
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>>97206032
You better not have.
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>>97206027
>and ub
WOTC should rename it to Fur-B and do.. well.... you can guess.
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>>97206015
This is bad though
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Rather than whatever this shit is
Post decks
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>>97206040
It just didn't do the thing :(
It's a shame, I build it around Halloween and wanted to LARP as Weevil Underwood for my buddies who watched Yugioh back in the day, but the deck just doesn't do much. I need a lot of self-mill to get Aatchik going and it doesn't leave much space for instants or sorceries or tribal synergies. Plus I need to hit a good chunk of self-mill in the opening hand for Aatchik to do anything when cast on curve

If I haven't already broken the deck down, I probably will for the new golgari elf feet, depending on what prices are like for elf cards these days
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>>97206085
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What the fuck, all I did was post a genuine Magic card and it got deleted.
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>tfw no more magic until sunday
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>>97205268
>TQ
Teval, Arbiter of Virtue.
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>>97206085
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>>97206115
Got a decklist to share?
I've attempted to build him a couple times. While it's not hard to make a version that works, i haven't been able to make one that was felt satisfying.

Also holy mother of christ fuck this new captcha
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>>97206085
As you can see, my body is ready for them to get rid of the ban list.
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>>97206112
>tfw no more fun posting until tran-Jan goes to sleep
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>>97206145
https://archidekt.com/decks/8121973
Built it for a low-power playgroup. Right now we're experimenting with wishboards so just swap in Cycle of Renewal and a Lofty Denial to mainboard to make it legal.
Obviously it's easy to make Teval win, but it was more fun to make it interesting.
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>>97205519
>I think this is the only Commander from this year that I'm building. Oh wait, no, I opened up Grixis Azula along with Mai and Ty Lee in the same pack, so I'm doin' that too.
That Azula tickles me too. I imagine I could make a pretty busted deck with that.
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>>97206169
Sweet, doesnt too far off from what i was aiming for as well. Will look it over in the morning
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>>97206150
It's all so tiresome
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>TFW all the commanders I built this year are UB
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>>97206235
So what
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>>97206249
I wish the UW commanders interested me this year is all
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>>97206249
>So what
Im not an anti-UB schizo but I agree with his sentiment. Im trying to make maybe 1 UB deck and then do something UW. Dare I say 50/50 at most like MaRo promised.
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>>97205426
no one showed up....
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>>97206261
No one showed up to an lgs?
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>>97206235
>>97206249
>>97206252
>>97206257
UB is a poison and in a couple years time when this game has been wrung for every penny it’s worth and the fleeting UB sales tank and Hasbro is losing their minds trying to figure out what to do with the dead game they have on their hands, I will come to you, I will take both of your hands in mine, I will look you in the eye and whisper:
You did this
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>>97206269
Okay schizo.
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>>97205809
Obsessed
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>>97206269
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>>97206267
yep
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>>97206249
incorrect scrimblo brimblo
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>>97206279
poor rural anon
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>>97205451
He even said as much when he did a collab with Team APS. He never hyped himself up from my limited viewing of him.
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>Hey, how is every body's power levels?
>My deck can win on turn 4 and has 4 infinites in it.
>My deck can win turn 5 and has a few infinites
>My deck sucks, I never win.
>Guy who said his deck sucks went infinite on turn 3.
I don't know what I expected.
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>>97206281
Youre touching a cursed artifact there anon. I know you think it’s all just a laugh right now, but it will kill you as it did its previous wielder
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I can't find my loxodon warhammer so I put this in my deck instead
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>could go to Friday night magic right now
>don't have anything else to do
>don't wanna go
I had such a boring time last time. I only play with randoms and last time I had 2 guys who spoke incredibly quiet, so it was impossible to hear anything they said. One guy just played solitaire, the other guy would take 5min turns with 4 mins of that just staring at the board and thinking.
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>>97206317
classic poop dick schizo post
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>>97206365
Players in stores are 80% social spastics and rejects. You only go there to find like-minded people so you can play in a private group with them at home.
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>>97206381
Huh, I’m getting the weirdest feeling of deja vu…
>>97204661
>>97204707
>>97204722
>>97204777
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>>97206365
>could go to Friday night magic right now
You couldn’t, because it’s not Friday night anywhere in the world, but okay.
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>>97206272
He's right though. One day the culminated UB slop will repel more players than it brings in. Even players who started with Lord of the Rings or Warhammer will be disgusted and alienated by the cards from random video games and children's cartoons and stop playing. By then the damage will be irreversible.
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>>97206388
Was 2 guys who I played with who were chill but yeah hasn't been the best crowd with randoms.

>>97206404
It started at 4
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>>97206404
Australia?
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>>97206421
Fake news
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>>97206415
>He's right though
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>>97206415
2 more weeks, surely.
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>>97206429
holy shit is that MTG character Frodo baggins?
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>>97206432
Not in two weeks. Maybe not even two years. But the toxin called UB accumulates in the blood. One day the patient will simply collapse and die.
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>>97206421
Post the store. Never in my life heard of FNM starting at fucking 4pm. People have jobs.
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>>97206465
It's called GUF. I don't got that often since if you're not there at like 430 (now) most of the tables are full and you're stuck waiting around
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>not legal
>Not even available
Fuck off wizards, know I'm way late, but still fuck off.
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>>97206473
What parallel world do you live in man?
Theres easily 60 people at my LGS but getting there before 5:30 is a total waste of time
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>>97206451
What is your evidence to your belief?
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>>97206475
Drugs and illegal weapons Secret Lair?
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>>97206475
Stop lusting after underaged cardboard, anon
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>>97206482
Shit up
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You DID get your command tower, right?
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>>97206480
Maybe people in my area don't work so they can get there early.
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>>97206481
He doesn't like UB, so everyone must feel the same way.
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>>97206495
Well he is the main character of life
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>>97206481
Currently Hasbro has just committed to shooting in the dark and hoping to hit billion dollar IPs, at the expense of having a core dedicated player base.
Logic dictates that this is not sustainable.
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>>97206475
what did he mean by this?
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>>97206502
So basically
>UHHH BECAUSE
Delusional
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>>97206506
>give very precise reason
>have no answer
>have to pretend it was actually no reason
Genuine question, what’s it like living with 70IQ?
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>>97206481
You can see it in the way the topic is discussed online and elsewhere. More and more people voice dissatisfaction with the current course. The people who support UB are getting more sensitive and passive aggressive in their defence and lash out more often. They all know it's bad and getting worse.
But mostly it's the people you meet in real life to play. Even the people who initially embraced UB and thought of it as a fun novelty are getting tired of it.
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>>97205317
>favorite commander of the year
>the worst temur card I've ever seen in my life
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>>97206512
This is not evidence, anon. It's a personal anecdote.
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>>97206516
Guess he is lying, anon
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>>97206517
You want evidence for something that will supposedly happen in the future? Are you the king of autism?
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>>97206512
literally no one has quit playing mtg over ub.
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>>97205268
>What was your favorite commander released in 2025?
The tryhad nigga.
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>>97206521
>doesn't do anything new or interesting
>in an archetype that has gotten 10+ legends in the last 2 years
>in the most cringe color identity
>from a precon
>not even powerful

if he's not lying then he has some mental illness that I would like to study. Maybe he just has a fetish for brown moms, but even then there are better options
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>>97206534
statistically there must exist one person who quit over UB
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>>97206540
ok faggot
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>>97206541
you know what, sure.within 5% error.
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>>97206534
I haven't quit but I basically stopped interacting with anything other than EDH, and I spent way less money on the game in 2025 then I did 2019-2024.
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>>97206517
Observation is evidence. I pray you never end up subject to criminal try and crying your eyes out over witness testimony not being evidence

>>97206534
I know people who have.
And I myself find myself not engaging with Magic for months at a time during UB releases.
It’s called fatigue, anon.
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>>97206554
product fatigue isn't unique to ub, magic, card games or products at all.
Everyone gets tired of new shit eventually.
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>>97206543
sorry I dissed your indian milf anom
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>>97206534
But Anon, I knew this guy who quit and...
>No! That's a personal anecdote, no proof!
Here's a post from someone who quit over UB and...
>No! That's not real. Online anybody can say whatever they want!
But...
>You need to post the brain scan of a person WHILE they are thinking of quiting magic over UB. The different parts of the brain must lit up. I will not accept any other evidence.
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>>97206541
I don't think at the rate the other anons believes it's happening. Anons have been saying MTG is dead for years now
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>>97206567
>game grows a core audience
>starts to try and grow by appealing to outsiders
>outsiders who don't care about the game itself start buying in because they're being catered to
>core audience starts losing interest because the actual gameplay starts to suffer
>company continues on this course because the numbers keep going up
>eventually the "playerbase" consists more of collectors than actual players
>company is okay with this because game design is hard but artificial scarcity and pretty art is easy
>game shambles along in a zombie state
>retards on the internet make posts defending company because game isn't technically "dead"

many such cases
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>>97205899
Combine with living plane for maximum salt and impotence. I almost did that on accident slapping some hatebears into a land animator deck, but I decided to maintain my friendships
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>>97206581
"""collectors"""" have been a blight on magic since the 90s, anon.
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>>97206567
You faggots always set the lose condition to “dead” whatever the fuck that even means.
Within the next few decades theres no foreseeable possibility of there being 0 people playing MtG. If that is what you set the lose condition as, then it will never happen, but you're also completely misunderstanding people who hate UB.

What people are concerned about is a future for Magic where it is no longer worth playing. And there’s a thousand products like that out there right now.
There are big title multiplayer video games backed by massive corporations that still only have around 50k active players. They are not something most people want to play because they’re crammed with microtransactions, in-game ads, predatory practices, and server-side shut down at the whims of the company behind them.
People still play those games. Those games still make the companies money. But they’re not GOOD. They’re not what players want games to be like. So too for Magic

>inb4 “durrr but if people pay for it actually that is what they want!!!”
if you reply to me with this I will ignore you. People spend money on mediocre entertainment all the time just to have something to do, not because it is excellent
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>>97206587
but "collector boosters" weren't the highest selling product until the 2020s, retard
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>>97206593
leaving normal boosters to the actual playerbase. nice.
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>>97206491
chat, is this ai
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>>97206581
Yeah anon we have posts like this every day, every thread and had them for the last few years. If MTG dies, it dies the majority of people will either still play it with their friends or come to 4chan to bitch and moan
>>97206591
>You faggots always set the lose condition to “dead” whatever the fuck that even means.
Stopped reading here because this shows how retarded you are
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>every thread from now on is just going to be anons doomposting
why is every board like this now?
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>>97206613
a fourth are genuine, a third are bots and half are retarded.
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>>97206613
Because they're depressed
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>>97206599
without a doubt
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>>97206618
Sorry anon I've already got a shy wife.
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>>97206613
>why do people get depressed in december?

are you 12?
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>>97206613
The world is legitimately getting worse in just about every way imaginable.
I get so pissed off when you see people trying to attribute this to social media and screen time or some shit.
There have been plenty of periods of human history where the outlook has been optimistic and people have been hopeful. This is not such a period
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>>97206636
maybe you should kill yourself then
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>>97206647
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>>97206634
I think you might be retarded anon
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>>97206512
This
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I going to make a gooner deck with all the sexy female characters. I need a multicoloured commander to do it thought that’s also preferably sexy, any ideas?
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what UB set are you excited for in 2027? I hope we finally get George Lopez!
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>>97206647
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Man, I love this art. I wish he just had a little something more to him to make him just a little better. like getting +1/+1 for every blood token you control or something.
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>>97206667
Sisay of the tight pants and tummy.
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>>97206673
At least you have white spells to flicker him
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>>97206673
>they cucked one of the two good people on Innistrad
>his new card is garbage

MAN those sets sucked. At least they had some good footfag content
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>>97206667
You sound non-white enough to enjoy a spicy latinx, so sure
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>>97206683
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>>97206683
speaking of cucked
>wotc commissions art beautifully pale ethereal baddie with no shoes on for the footfags
>puts it on an alchemy card

I will never forgive them for this
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>>97206689
cucked so hard I forgot the image
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>>97206691
>black guards
Every fucking time
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>>97206683
odric is still in control of himself, and his lunarch sword doesnt burn him. he's just vampire hunter D now.
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>>97206697
>morally good person becomes a blood sucking demon
>"h-he's still in control of himself! He's still a good guy!"

there's no way you believe this
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>>97206668
Door loepay
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>>97206701
Uh. okay. I don't need to believe anything, thats what the story says.
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>>97206673
Superior blood commander comin through
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>>97206705
>needs to drink the blood of the living to survive
>morally good

you have to pick one anon, I know today's fucked up morality tells you that it can be both "and the wotc writing staff probably believes it too" but that's not how the realy world works

demons can't be good guys, and vampires are demons wearing the flesh of damned men.
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>>97206711
>demons can't be good guys
lmfao
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>>97206711
aight. (you).
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>>97206708
I wish I could play this in a regular border version. There's no reason for this to be UB slop when we've had movie references in the game for decades
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>>97206715
Wait a bit then.
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>>97206717
have they confirmed they're doing UW versions for these cards? I know I've seen rumors about the playstation stuff but not Jaws
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>>97206713
they can't, that's basic shit. The idea of the "redeemed" Vampire/Demon/Imp is satanic propaganda

even fucking Joss Whedon knew that you can't truly redeem bloodsuckers, but now the idea seems ridiculous? baka
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>>97206723
Jaws was revealed along with an announcement that it would have a UW version in an upcoming set.
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>>97206723
They said JAWS was going to get a UW version in an upcoming set. Which is hopefully true because he's like 60+ dollars
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>>97206723
I thought rosewater straight up said within was dead.
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>>97206727
>Satanic propaganda
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>>97206729
Damn, I'm glad I got an extra one. Wonder if I should sell it now or hold on to it.
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>>97206732
>has witnessed firsthand the slide into moral depravity in the western world
>still mocks the idea of satanic propaganda

I hope one day you realize what's right in front of you anon
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Idk if this is a bright idea but kinda wanna make a Voltron massacre girl deck the idea is that since massacre girl etbs and clears the board you can just go modular and swing out I'm thinking of putting conjurers closet and genesis chamber to get those bored wipes cooking but idk how solid would this be?
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>>97206737
Moral depravity is caused by media doing "ackshually bad guys are good" shit. Blame sopranos, better call saul, breaking bad, and 90% of cape shit.
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>>97206736
>knows a card that is being held in artificial scarcity is getting a widely release reprint
>"I wonder if I should sell it now or hold on to it"

oh gee I fucking wonder
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>>97205453
Tie between Naya and Jund. Sek'Kuar and Jacques Le Vert are my homies.
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>>97206744
>this isn't the result of satanic propaganda!
>actually it's [lists satanic propaganda]
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>>97206491
i went to scan the qr code and got told the last one was being given to the guy in front of me :/
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>>97206754
Fucking ouch
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>>97206753
>>97206744
samefagging an argument no one cares for.
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>>97206739
No idea, but I'm going to have to build her soon and that sounds like a fun direction to take the deck.
>>97206745
It's different with universes beyond. How much of that demand is coming from the card's mechanics and how much is coming from it being Jaws? If the latter is more dominant it'll go up even after the reprint.
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>>97206765
>Soon
You mean half a year? Assuming you want that version
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>>97206765
I promise you that the red 5 mana blood token commander is not $60 because of its power level
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>>97206737
It's pretty stupid of you to choose to believe a jewish fairytale as an explanation for the origin of the world, and then retroactively apply the jewish fairytale's explanation for bad things happening onto history despite the fact that bad things existed thousands of years before the jewish fairytale
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>>97206768
He's pretty damn good ngl.
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>>97206753
>when all you have is a hammer...
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>>97206773
he isn't SIXTY fucking dollars good
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>>97206768
Or he's a staple in the 99 of every treasure token deck.
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>>97206773
Chilling to remember that WotC is kept afloat by people so detached from concepts of value
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>I hate universes beyond!
>I hate universes beyond!
>but if they print Game of Thrones cards I'm dropping $500 on collector boxes!

I'm part of the problem
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>>97206779
>5 mana
>deal 1 damage when you sacrifice a treasure

treasure decks have this effect printed at 2 or 3 mana all the time, it is nowhere near a staple, are you retarded?
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>>97206786
No, they don't.
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>>97206783
I have the self control not to be you.
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>>97205268
>TQ
Probably Jameson. He was the only thing that came out this year that really drew me in enough to build. Most of everything else I've built has been older. But Jameson is fun. Just a pile of menace stuff and extra combat sinks to spend all that mana on. Been working on Kraven as well, but I haven't really had time to play test it yet in paper and likely won't until next year.
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Most of the times I make decks, I always try to include at least one non-dexterity un-card.

Take Blast from the Past for instance. The entire joke is literally "Here's a bunch of keywords we haven't used in a while!", only for almost every one to make a return at some point. The joke itself is a joke. Could you break it? Sure, but then it would stop bring funny.
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>>97206267
It was pretty dead at my locals too. Took nearly an hour before we filled out a table and even then it was a pretty lopsided one. Guess everyone took off from the Christmas season. What deck were you hoping to play?
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>>97206786
That effect is easy to get at a single target, each opponent is a bit more rare. The trample and haste with artifact tokens equal to damage dealt are also very relevant in decks that are built around it, swinging with him can easily do 15 to 20 damage to the table with a deck that wants every reckless fireweaver effect it can get.
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>>97206811
and you think that's worth sixty dollars lol
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>>97206816
I don't think any piece of cardboard is worth $60. Reality tends to disagree with me, so I try to find arguments that can justify that discrepancy.
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>>97206828
and "Jaws is the 5th best Treasure payoff in mono red" is a more compelling argument to you than "Jaws is a short-printed secret lair exclusive"?
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>>97206834
Those facts don't exist in a vacuum. In fact, they multiply each other. Magic players like to bling out their decks and the most exclusive version of a card will get a massive price bonus over all others. That's a consistent trend across casual commander, cEHD, Modern, Premodern, Legacy, and Standard.
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>>97206783
stop being irony pilled and just accept that mtg is nothing more than a bunch of mechanics
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>>97206860
>mtg is nothing more than a bunch of mechanics

right, but I don't want to see those mechanics stapled to the teletubbies if I have the option
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>>97206860
>do not contradict what is in the company’s economic interest, accept the product as it is given to you and buy it regardless of your personal feelings
Corposhill argument
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>>97206873
(You) STILL haven't sold me on UW, ubschizo
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Every argument here sounds like this to me
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>>97206860
Almost correct, Magic the Gathering is a setting in the Deckmaster mechanical system. For the past 30 years people have been under the misunderstanding that MtG was the product instead of Deckmaster, but now UB is here to correct that belief.
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>>97205268
>TQ
I fucking hate capeshit but this smug fucker is an absolute joy to play. Honorable mention to celes she's just so flexible
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redpill me on zethi is she more fun than lyse hext
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>>97206896
Huh? That's Fleem.
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You DID get everyone in your pod a christmas gift, right?
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>>97206744
>Blame sopranos, better call saul, breaking bad, and 90% of cape shit.
Schizo take
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>>97206795
>Been working on Kraven as well
Same kind of. I have a moxfield list. Ive enjoyed piloting Taii a lot and Kraven is probably similar feel. I actually want to riffle through the lgs common box to find kraven shit
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>>97207067
how does yours compare to my list fellow kraven enjoyer?
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>>97207081
https://moxfield.com/decks/-qyjxOjzm0ObMsMHMqyp3g
meant to post a link
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What commander should I play if I just want to cast Tasha's Hideous Laughter a bunch of times?
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>>97207083
Big game hunter is a good look

I think this dork would be good with a lot of spot removal cards.

I see youre all in on sac effects.

I think things like Deluge could be good. Can a creatures power be negative? No right? So if you Deluge and wipe the board would you draw those cards? If nkt I still think -X effects are ok maybe if you just sequence them and hate on whoever has like 1 creature which is sure to happen. Llanowar elves, any of the 1 cmc dorks are probably best in slot
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*sits at your table*
hello this is my commander, pretty cool right?
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>>97207108
bad news...
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>>97207120
I have a soft spot for giant retarded beater commanders, so yeah pretty cool man.
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>>97207083
Also run this shit
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>>97207123
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Would you let Jenova ride you?
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>>97207262
I'd let her frog mount me in the most horrific way possible if you catch my drift
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>>97207294
I think I'm picking up what you're putting down
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>>97205603
I mean you'd have to be stupid to keep playing after Shadowmoor block.
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>Halana and Alena partners but bad
what were they thinking?
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>>97207328
>finally an excuse for all those fallout mutant cards
>oh there's not enough playables oh well
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>>97206534
My entire original playgroup has stopped playing / disbanded due to UB. The person who got me into Magic has even sold most of her decks, only keeping the sentimental ones.
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>>97207343
>her
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>>97206534
then explain my playgroup not going to commander night anymore after Spiderman dropped and jumping ship to the league of legends game
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>>97206534
2 of my friends did
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is ognis anon around?
I'm wondering if my choice of haste guys is too much all over the place
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>>97206783
Stay true to your principles anon.

t. Massive Avatarfag that didn't buy shit because it's just cardboard.
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>>97207458
not pictured: two haste dorks, goldvein hydra and shivan devastator, as well as the three {X} haste token sorceries
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>>97205268
>tq
He's just fun
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>>97206865
you don't have the option
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>>97206613
Facebook-tier eternal summer posters from /pol/ cannot separate their hobbies from their retarded idol games and need to shit up every board because they cannot keep to their containment board.
They are like really annoying bronies
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>>97205268
Kill all vivi niggers
bracket 2 my ass
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>>97206613
it gets (you)s but also because all they say is true
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>>97205268
>TQ
Pretty even split between the Vivi I pulled at the prerelease and Lyse Hext from my Bundle, but I think I like the latter a bit better purely because it lets me use a lot of chaff I otherwise wouldn’t give a second glance at.



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