Previous: >>97205268Your Kokoro Wish Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat is your Magic wish for next year? It can be as big as the whole game, or as small as a card for your deck. This is a magically protected safe space where you can tell others and it may still be granted.
>If WotC thought UW was a winning formula they wouldn't bother with UBUniverses Within =/= in universeUW is changing the names and art on UB cards to remove the 3rd party IP you fucking idiot.
>>97211103Oop, for >>97211097
>>97211098>tqI just want my dang playgroup back
>>97211111Those quints are a good sign anon!
>>97211111tfwyktf
>>97211103in universe takes too long to type so we just shorthand it to UW and if that makes you cry more then all the betteryes go on schizo kvetch harder while never selling me why i should care about the jacetice league and aetherdrift and things like transit mage LMAO
>>97211116>in universe takes too long to type so we just shorthand it to UW1. No "we" don't2. Even if "we" did, it was clear from the conversation you were replying to that it was about actual UW because it was discussing UW reprints of Fallout and then the UW Arena print of Spider-ManSorry you're an actual special needs case. This isn't reddit, when you're wrong you don't need to save face to protect your precious account, you can just slink off into anonymity and no one will even know
>>97211125>STILL not selling me on UWyep, UB is here to stay and you'll be crying for all eternity
>>97211116>in universe takes too long to typeSo you'd type IU and not UW then, wouldn't you? Because UW isn't the acronym for "In Universe" is it?
>>97211129t. proud supporter of trans rights
>>97211131UW has more bite to it, branding matters, and UW vs. UB just makes more senseofc we all know who the winner is regarding that fight
>>97211132name one
>>97211111Sorry anon. I hope things improve for you.
>>97211132>funny moment not to be taken seriously because nips rightly don't take rainbow people seriously>meanwhile TAKE ME SERIOUSLY CHUDbwahahaha
>>97211135>I know I'm using the wrong terminology, but I'm doing it on purposeMy TQ wish is that you would be banned from these threads forever. Not sure what has to go so wrong in your life to enjoy shitting up /edhg/ for a hobby, and honestly I don't think I want to know
>>97211141>he finally admits defeattook you long enough ub schizo
>>97211098>TQUgin having sex with Bolas on a card
>>97211153Stranger things have happened
>>97211098>TQMy nigga Dockside moved to game changer.
>>97211160>My nigga Dockside moved to game changer.100% guaranteed
>TQI want more options for boros group hug this year.Iroh is moving in the right direction, but its not quite there yet to make me go all in.
>>97211163God those screencap cards were atrocious.
>>97211172wrong
>>97211172>muh AI generated artand what if they did? you already don't buy real art from wotc and don't act as if your proxies aren't AI generated in the first place lol
>>97211180>you already don't buy real art from wotcWhat do you base this on anon?
>>97211185>what do you base this on anon?from the sheer number of proxyfags herethey'll be arriving soon enough don't worry
>>97211098>What is your Magic wish for next year?I wish for support for sacrificing artifacts for value outside of black
>>97211192Whoops forgot image
>>97211180Excuse you. I spend HOURS searching boorus and x for REAL art to put on my proxies.
>>97211172Pds, plz go
>>97211198>boorus/x>real artspare me from your plebian tastesonly fine gentlemen with proper upbringing know what REAL art is
>>97211185Its well known that he doesnt buy even current UW sets, but he bitches about UB
decks with this vibe
>>97211214Holy kino.WotC is way too incompetent to print something so amazing
what would you search for other than blightsteel?
>>97211229clock of omens, duh
>>97211229Clock of Omens, Maskwood Nexus
>>97211231>>97211235i was hoping to play a fun treasures deck but this one seems too combo-y
>>97211242>i was hoping to play a fun treasures deckyou're approaching this all wrongif you dare to put magda as your commander you deserve every hate that comes your way
>>97211163It's coming back any day now.
>>97211229Portal to Phyrexia
>>97211251it ain't 2021 anymore budwotc owns commander now
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97211141>>I know I'm using the wrong terminology, but I'm doing it on purposeAwww, we're sowwy Mark. Did we misuse your official terminology? So sowwy.
>ban dockside>but rhystic and tithe are okExplain.
>>97210451No you don't, you give a shit about some fictionalized version of MTG which only exists in your head. Real MTG had mech suits and guns and all sorts of stuff you would consider not real MTG
>Interact with opponent in any other format>Lol well played anon>Interact with someones massive insane value engine or wincon at the EDH table>They will now vindictively target you and spend every conceivable resource to fuck you over even if another player is a clear and objective bigger issue.I hate this playerbase.I hate this playerbase so fucking much holy shit.
>>97211296the RC made a fatal mistake, simple as that
>>97211301>mfw I simultaneously blast everyone at the same time
>>97211306>>97211301FUCKING
>>97211301>I hate this (retarded casual) playerbase.don't you just love it when you're told to take them seriously?
>>97211301>NOOOO You have to let me do the thing! My deck is supposed to do the thing!TL note: "doing the thing" means winning.
>>97211296They are on the GC list for a reason. If the RC didn't ban him, and still lost control for whatever reason, Dockside would probably be on the GC too. He won't come off though, since you know, the deaththreats and etc.
>>97211144>>97211292Why are zoomers so universally embarrassing
>>97211308>>97211311I was playing against the Deathtouch Spell Judith and Arcades.Judith player had a bajillion pingers on board and slamming people for 6 with every spell he played.I basically go for a mass fight spell so we dont just hand Judith the game next turn and the Arcades players fucks me because "thats what you get for getting rid of my commander anon."Fuck me guys, sorry. I forgot it's against the rules to not let someone sit on a massive card draw engine for multiple turns.I'm not mad that I lost. I'm mad at how petty people can be because you refuse to just pull your pants down and let them openly fuck you and thank them while they do so.
>>97211321>He won't come off though, since you know, the deaththreats and etc.the death threats came from dockside being bannedtherefore no death threats if he came off the banlist
>>97211328the solution to such retards? play an archenemy deckif you won, you can gloat that you beat 3 people so stupid you might as well be in an actual 3v1 instead of a FFAif you lose, they feel good about themselves for beating "a meanie"
>>97211338That dragon takes it up the butt every night.
>>97211323>what ub schizos are defending
>>97211338My nigga. Playing Eldrazi and Slivers is fun as fuck.>playing with my man Zhulodok>get the fuck machine all primed and ready to roll>darksteel Monolith lets me get out Emrakul, Promised End for free>cascade>Ulamog the Defiler, ans he gets Annihilator 8>cascade>Kozilek Butcher of Truth>now have 3 giant rape machines>tell the pod to pick whose face I'm about to fuck by controlling their creatures and slamming them>they all scramble into a huddle to try to stop me>can't stop me>they whine that Eldrazi are toxic
Thoughts about this in a flicker deck?
Any deck that doesn't run blue is shit.Truth nuke
>>97211098>What is your Magic wish for next year? It can be as big as the whole game, or as small as a card for your deck. This is a magically protected safe space where you can tell others and it may still be granted.UB I actually wantDragon BallTerminatorActual horror filmsThat shitOh, and an end to limited quantity SLD (never happening)
>>97211380>flicker deck>Attacks>MV4>doesn't have flash
>>97211301It's weird. I guess it becomes a signal for if these players have come from other competitive cars games or not. I've come from Yu-Gi-Oh and in that game you expect to get fucked and fuck in turn. Sometimes games just go that way and it's fine.
>>97211431It's almost like this isn't a competitive format.Yugioh makes CEDH blush
>>97211382>Any deck that doesn't run blue is shit.>Truth nukeThis but red
>>97211301You only get it when you mess with their engines and wincons?Half the people in my 6-8 regular players get vindictive and start to make spite plays if you even attack them for one damage for a trigger.
>>97211440>simic is shitlmaorofl even
>>97211434It's almost like a casual format can be made competitive.Yugioh wishes it had a format like EDH
>>97211434Fair but you can agree that getting uppity over some interaction is lame even if this is a casual format, right? Even if just for the fact if one guy starts to be a shit because he was interacted with once he'll potentially ruin the time for everyone else too.
>>97211450blue is the bridesmaid in that color combo btw
>>97211453This is no different than when PVPers try to take over an MMO and piss off all the PVErsStay in your lane
>>97211466>you bad pvp players! stay in your lane! (cries)this might make you question your entire existence, but mtg is a pvp game
>>97211434Just because EDH is casual doesnt mean you can't be somewhat "competitive." And I don't mean cEDH Im talking like basic game theory that you'd see in like party games.Cards Against Humanity, Jenga, Jackbox, even if youre all just playing for drunken laughs you still try to win a little bit because it's a game and there has to be a winner. There has to be some sort of push and pull even if it's for fun.I don't like the style of EDH where everyone just sits around and we wait to see who drew their wincons first and nobody messed with each other because "thats not nice."If you play a wincon, I'm getting rid of it.If you play a value engine, I'm getting rid of it.If you try and mess with my board, I'm going to try and stop you.But I'm also enough of an adult to be open and honest about my cards and don't get mad if someone messes with my shit. I only get mad when you're going after my literal Do Nothing Enchantment on an empty board when the guy next to you essentially has Expdia assembled cause you're mad I messed with you 3 turn cycles ago.
>go to new LGS for commander not-a-league>8 dollars pick a standard pack off the wall and get a random promo>anon said always pick ixalan>open in store 'oh cool showcase vito- right it's ixalan vito' stuff pack in backpack>check again at home, guest slot was mana cryptalways trust random anon advice
>TQWotC releases an UB set where they go full retard with blackwashing and uglification, leading to endless shitstorms a lawsuit by the IP holders, threatening to ruin the company. I would wish for all wokeshits getting fired, but I'm trying to be not too unrealistic.
>>97211481Failed legacy player right here
>>97211446>Retard who always makes spite plays gets upset that you removed one of his KoS cards, so he counters your commander out of spite despite not being a KoS commander and he didn't counter the actual threat shit the other players played before then. So you blow up his storage land he's been stacking with 8 counters and he scoops because he can't handle it coming back on him.
>>97211486I hope for the opposite of this just so you die of anger
>>97211301>Interact with opponent in any other format>"LMAOOOO NOOOOOOBZZZZZZZ GG EEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZ NO RE AHAHAHAHAHA"
>>97211487>Failed legacy player *mulligans for the 5th time in his unlimited-mulligans pod* right here huhehehe *snorts*lol
>>97211490do not project your anger onto me, child, for I have felt nothing but dread in years
>>97211482>I didn't notice I pulled the incredibly rare chase card that has a less than 1% chance in play boosterCool fake story.
>>97211487Anon what the fuck are you talking about.
>>97211499>my post filled with anger is not angerYou can't slip that past someone like me.
>>97211502I'd take a picture and post it, but I know you still wouldn't trust me on it.
>>97211493nobody runs their mouth like that in real life because they get punched in the face, at least in my place>you live in a coastal area? too bad then
>>97211508of course not, nothing slips past a man filled with endless spite for those that do not appreciate his ideology
>>97211515online is thing since a couple of years
>>97211515>nobody runs their mouth like that in real life because they get punched in the face, at least in my placeImpulse control issues aren't rare
>>97211521>Impulse control issues aren't rareobviously they're notyou wouldn't be running your mouth in public otherwise
>>97211519if you play online then you're fine with trashtalk to begin with so what's the problem again?
>>97211531>>Interact with opponent in any other format>>Lol well played anon
>>97211515This is like trying to say no one angleshoots or rule sharks or plays unsportsman like. You could also be punched out for that.
>>97211541NTA but at least for in person play I can't imagine the kind of autist you'd have to be to act like EDH players do in any other format.>WOW, YOU'RE GONNA FORCE OF WILL MY AD NAUSEUM? REALLY?>WOOOOOOW, BOLTING MY BIRD? GUESS I JUST WON'T PLAY ANYMORE.>WOAH DUDE, SIDING IN LEYLINE OF THE VOID? OKAY MR. TRYHARD.
>>97211486>WotC releases an UB set where they go full retard with blackwashing and uglification, leading to endless shitstorms a lawsuit by the IP holdersThis 2nd half would literally never happen. All art must be approved.But you are entirely likely to see an IP holder blackwash its own property, especially if the IP itself is less visual.See Lord of the Rings vs Final Fantashit
>>97211553proving that someone ran their mouth is a lot easier than proving someone cheated, angleshooting schizo
>>97211513Can't take a picture of something you don't own
Lost in the most atrocious way>smokestack at 7 counters>vs. Shorikai control deck with so many tokens out it doesn't matter>have a Cyclonic Rift on top of deck and an active Sensei's Top>almost certainly dead on board to Shorikai player>has 14 cards in hand>somewhere around 40 mana when he untaps>but he doesn't have very much at the end step of the Teval player's turn going into his>he casts Shimmer Myr>after that I see he only has one land untapped, one colorless floating>let the Myr Resolve, knowing he'll spend the colorless on activating Shorikai or flash out some artifact>he spends it on activating Shorikai>because he has Teferi's Ageless Insight out he'll draw 4 cards>he has one mana and he's already played Swan Song, odds of him having another 1-mana counter are low>go for the Rift>his lands are tapped so shittily there was an UNTAPPED LAND under his mountain of tapped lands>casts Dovin's VetoIt sucks because we can't even "rewind" to a point before the Rift. There's a world where he doesn't flash anything out with Shimmer Myr. But since he has an Uthros Research craft, there's good odds he just plays out a mana rock for the draw 2 before untap.He'd never do that knowing I have a cyc rift, though, so I lost to fucking board visibility.
>>97211556I say all of these things, but ironically. The most serious stuff I get directed at me is a sad look sometimes.
>>97211561>UMMM JUDGE HE SAID THE WRONG CARD NAME SO HIS PITHING NEEDLE DOESN'T WORK>hehehe nothin personell kidAnd that's when I knock your ass out
>>97211556>Your not even letting me play the game>Dude, you made your creatures indestructible then board wiped me when I had gravepact out. You literally did this to yourself >No one made you play gravepact but you.
I have no clue what this thread is arguing about today
>>97211570>he doesn't know MTR 3.6yep, a no games casual faggot is arguing with me, riveting
>>97211570What is calling a judge on someone going to do for that?They literally changed a rule after a tourney that someone did this so you don't need to be exact you need to just have some obvious approximation of what your are meaning to say.I don't remember which way it was, but a guy was running one of the cards of this guy and they played said the name, but not the FULL title or whatever, and rule lawyered so he could win and even wizards thought that was laggy.
>>97211573having fun with sloppa not really paying attention
>>97211571God shit like this is the worst.Someone will have some assortment of cards or effects that makes their creatures essentially invincible by conventional means, but you find a way around it and wipe them, and they get all butthurt like YOURE the fucking asshole.Yeah nice indestructible soldiers faggot, lick my Toxic Deluge
>Nooooo you can't just exile fucking everything and set my life to 1edh players amirite?
>>97211590He was running the one you posted, and his opponent played Pithing Needle and just named Borborygmos. Which, notably, is the exact name of pic related. So the angle-shooting son of a bitch argued that his opponent had referred to a different card, which--by the letter of the law--he had. Everyone agreed that it was retarded but those were the rules, so they gave it to him that one time and then changed the rule.
>>97211608>>97211590WotC are cowards.
>>97211648>Player knew what card was being referred to>Opponent knew what card was being referred to>Anyone who knew anything about the format knew what card was being referred to>Judges knew what card was being referred to>Even WotC knew what card was being referred to>UMMMMMMMMMMMM ACKKKKKKKKKKKSHYUUUUUALLY, YOU DIDNT SAY BORBARYGMOS ENRAGEDFuck that gook
>>97211301>another player is a clear and objective bigger issueTo you maybe, but not to your opponent.
>>97211699A lot of this general cannot comprehend this is not a team format. Your opponents do not need to help you or work toward a goal with you. In some cases they WANT that threat to do his shit because they have a way to mitigate it for themselves while ensuring you get fucked.
>>97211699>To you maybe, but not to your opponent.Uncivil Unrest on an empty board with no creatures while my opponent had Black Waltz 3, and other Guttersnipes out.You're right. Clearly not to my opponent because he likely eats paint chips when no one's fucking looking.
>>97211699>>97211708A threat is everyone's problem and almost 100% of these "I got targeted even though someone else was the threat" stories end with "and then the threat won"
>>97211573>I have no clue what this thread is arguing about todaySpotted the UB tourist
>>97211728That doesn't even make sense.
>>97211724Why is he a threat>CAUSE LOOK AT HIS BOARDWhy are you assuming I have no answers for myself? OH NO HE ATTACKED METeferi's protection. Bye.You seem to be assuming I am in your exact situation or need to be helping you. Actually, I should ensure he fucks YOU while I am left unharmed. Because YOU are as much my opponent as him.
>>97211724Butthurt anon here-Yep, you're right on the money.Nobody but me was looking at the problem, but I still got focused for committing the cardinal sin of not letting someone have their stupid ass value engine.The Arcades player stops me from wiping the Problem's board. I pass. He stares at his hand for 5 minutes, plays some walls, hits the problem for 10 (the Problem was at fucking 35 mind you so basically irrelevant damage.)Passes turn, Problem plays like 4 sorceries with all his gutrersnipes out, wipes us out, and wins.>Arcades player; Heh, good game guys!Eat my fucking ass.
>>97211573It's probably one of several themes>/po/cel fighting tranny demons made up in his mind>I'm not the retard, it's everyone else I play with that rightly treats me like shit>Magic is dead and OVER my youtube e-celeb said so because of spiderman!Pick your poison>>97211593Players have trouble not being salty, and are also generally bad at the game
>>97211715Unfortunately until end of turn I have protection from everything and my life total cannot be changed and my board phased outThis sounds like a you issue and once he has killed you with this I can snapback and kill him.
I blink my opponent's commander while it's under my control, do they get to put it back in the command zone?
>>97211482Very awesome! When JumpStart first came out there was the one mana green elf that makes your green spells uncounterable that was very rare and expensive. I bought 4 packs just for fun and I really wanted that elf but I felt like there was noooo way I'd get it. Well, I open the first pack and get it. Sometimes miracles happen I guess.
>>97211749Yes.
>>97211567you think he had a 2nd untapped land, truthfully he probably does the shitty land tapping in clumps on purpose to hide stuff. Had a guy at a local lgs that used to do this till I started keeping track with a pen and pad.
>>97211737Ya know what anon?I wish you were right.I wish I could say that in situations like you're describing, such is the case, where you have a trick up your sleeve to swoop in, catch us all off guard, and win.I can respect that. That is a smart play.But such is never the case with the retards at my LGS. I could literally stand up, stick neon light bulbs in my nose and scream at the top of my lungs "If you don't counter his commander right fucking now we are ALL going to lose" and these mouthbreathers would go "Yeah but you Pathed my Commander 2 turns ago, Other Anon hasnt messed with my stuff."
>>97211748Please refer to>>97211757
>>97211749Yes. Any time it changes to a different zone(deck, yard, exile) the opponent can put it to the CZ, with a few niche cases like Come Back Wrong that returns it as part of the effect of the spell before you can put it in command zone
>>97211757>Yeah but you Pathed my Commander 2 turns ago, Other Anon hasnt messed with my stuff."Okay but anons like you never answer why you pathed their commander.99% of the time anon complaining wasn't being attacked or actually at threat of dying to that commander, they're just booty-blasted an opponent won't listen to them.I don't mind, because I always end up being that threat because the best time to use removal is only when it's going to kill you.
>>97211608it's even more pathetic when you know the original borborygmos wasn't legal in the format at the time so normal critical thinking would clearly point to the legal card with the similar name and not a completely irrelevant one. But old mtg tourneys were all about rules lawyering and abusing procedural crap to screw less experienced people over.
>>97211772>Okay but anons like you never answer why you pathed their commander.For context, their commander was Arcades, who essentially reads;"Turn every creature in the deck into a 2 mana 5/5 with ETB; Draw a card."I'm not letting that shit sit around and let Arcades run away with the game.
>>97211778>not letting that shit sit around and let arcades run away with the gameSo it sounds like they hadn't done anything to you yet and you pathed their commander, pissing them off. You also admit to having tried to board wipe later, a thing you could have used on the Arcades player should they have swung at you instead, or even tried to argue they 'got their value' out of their creatures already and needed to be sacrificed to take out player three.So it sounds like you made yourself a threat, got neutered, and the player that didn't do that won.
>>97211737If they players who weren't bothered actually had answers, the threat wouldn't win.
>>97211481>I only get mad when you're going after my literal Do Nothing Enchantment on an empty board when the guy next to you essentially has Expdia assembled cause you're mad I messed with you 3 turn cycles ago.yeah you definitely just get mad when someone messes with your shit.
>>97211482>lgs has standard pack buy-in for fnm>they have a pretty sparse selection of standard packs, maybe like one non-UB set is available at a time like Karlov or Aetherdriftit sucks
>>97211593>Join a new pod>Have a shitty mono white phyrexian tribal deck>One of the guys is all smug about his "unstoppable sliver deck.">Haha, all of my slivers have shroud and indestructible >Um. Okay, I play sunfall.>What the fuck? What even is the point of this shit if things can just get through it all? That's bullshit.>Everything needs a counter of some kind >It just isn't fair>Dude was almost 50
>>97211859did you tell him that you can get sunfall for pennies to really rub it in?
>>97211755No I trust the guy. In-part it's my fault for not asking "lands untapped" but holy fuck was that land buried.
>>97211861I should have, but no.
>>97211884Why do you ritual post this bad card
>>97211889It's a bot or a script. Nobody is that much of a loser that he manually posts the same goddamn card over and over again for no reason.
Commanders for this vibe?
>>97211894Was he disrupted by the captcha change? If so then yeah it's a bot. There's a spammer on /b/ who was down for almost a whole 24 hours when the captcha change over happened, it's very telling
>>97211897There are no attractive women in this game, especially if they're explicitly fighters
>>97211894No, it isn't.
Since it's in the OPREMINDER WISHES HAVE NEVER NEEDED SIDEBOARDS IN CASUAL PLAY
>>97211912https://mtgcommander.net/index.php/rules/Rule 10
>>97211897i've watched enough anime to know that there's something off about this character's hairstyle and you're purposely hiding something important from us
>>97211916Commander Rules Committee rules are additional optional, only the core rules apply to all games. The core rules themselves say this.
>>97211897tifa but also there's nobody with hair intakes. I am sexually attracted to hair intakes.
>>97211925unfortunately for you wishes are treated the same way as antethe default is always NO
>>97211936the fuck is a hair intake?
That's cool bro, but rule 0 requires we all agree and I don't. Wish for a new table bro.
>>97211939Like jet engine intakes, but with hair.
>>97211939facilitates moving high volumes of air through the system for cooling when operating at high speeds.
Can't wait for the banlist to be banned.
>>97211962Not happening
>>97211962protip: when primeval titan and emrakul gets released, the whole dynamic of mono green ramp changes entirely; azusa becomes win-more and is no longer the commander you want
>>97211962Your basic lands cost more than several of my decks.
>>97211983Prime time and emrakul will be made auto bracket 4 and you will never see them
>>97211991prime time and aeons torn will become GCs and there's nothing you can do about it buddy boy, don't say gavin didn't warn you
>>97211995The cope when this doesn't happen will be glorious.
>>97211938I'm sorry bro but the Comprehensive Rules took out any reference to the Rules Committee.The only rules in Commander are those in the Comprehensive Rules.
>>97211995And also bracket 4 onlyLike sway of the stars
>>97211988Seriously? I got most of these for .25-.50 cents back in the day. Which ones are worth the most? 7th edition?>>97211983I don't care. I'll play it with the appropriate power level decks. It's one of my first decks and I like it and it makes me happy and it's fun to play. Simple as. Spirit of the format, bro.
What is it with spergs in this thread and wanting to unban broken cards and enabling wishes? You don't need the rules comittee. You can just put them into your deck and tell your playgroup about it. Then you'll have awful lopsided games and they will tell you that you're a dumb person and that you wasted their time.
>>97212002hey you can cite all the rules you want, it won't change how the majority of players perceive wishes, and their selling prices reflect thisi personally think wishes are fine and *should* be normalized, but that doesn't change the reality of the current situation, now does it?
>>97212019Just let me use my broken shit to pubstomp you bro.
I already got my wish. I guess a Jeweled Lotus unban would be cool as long as I manage to buy one first.
>>97212022>hey you can cite all the rules you want, it won't change how the majority of players perceive wishesOkay??? And player perception won't change what the rules are.Most players get confused about the difference between "attacks" and "attacking" until its explained to them. Because so many players get it wrong should everyone just play with the mistaken interpretation?
>>97212007sway of the stars is bracket 2 legal btw
>>97212029>it's still at 30 smackaroos imc I hate this shit so much. WotC are more likely to print a replacement than unban it. Let it get down to 10 so I can fucking buy one just to have it you hoarding "investor" faggots
>>97212033It's MLD so no. It's also a GC.
>>97212014Yes, the 7th edition ones. Foils were rare back then and it's the only way to get black-bordered cards from that edition. They're at least 7€ a piece.
>>97212030>Most players get confused about the difference between "attacks" and "attacking"you're mistaking rule misunderstandings with the fact that if certain powerful cards were legal they would cost more, and wishes are dirt cheap right nowhey have fun in your pod, but good luck getting into an LGS and expecting them to just flat out accept your wishes
>>97212039Figured. The ones on the bottom left are my favorite, but those two were the only ones I could find. Definitely in my top 5 forests, if not my favorite. Unhinged foil is probably top.
>>97212044>if certain powerful cards were legal they would cost more, and wishes are dirt cheap right nowRAW, wishes are absolutely legal already.The only thing ever stopping them from working in Commander was the RC saying they didn't work. The RC is gone, and the reference to them and their website has been removed from the Comprehensive Rules.I guarantee you, on my entire collection, WotC will make an official announcement next year to "legalize" wishes
>>97212038sway replaces your lost lands with cards so technically sway dodges gavin's MLD definition>sway is a GCbwahahahaha
>>97212050>WotC will make an official announcement next year to "legalize" wishesi'm perfectly fine with this, i'm also pro hybrid mana for the recordonly wotc acting like they have the word of god (and they do, owning commander now) will resolve things
>>97212052Anon are you ok?It does not replace the lands. You lose them. It does not matter if you draw cards. You do not get to play new lands. MMLD is not "DESTROY" It is anything that denys mana. Vorniclex is MLD according to Moxfield. He doesn't even remove lands. Blood Moon is MLD.Go ahead and use it but people are going to kick you out of the group for trying to pub stomp with Amrageddon in bracket 2
The only thing wishes should do in commander since there isn't a sideboard is let you get things back from exile.
>>97212036Yeah, it's crazy. I was planning to pick it up once it hit 20, but it just isn't moving. At least I got a Dockside for $10 before the avatar reprint shot it up. Don't expect it to be unbanned until powercreep does unspeakable things to the game and makes it bulk, but I like owning it for the history.
>>97212046I played back then and bought several Onslaught displays. Over the years I gave away boxes full of cards to other people. Just like that, as a gift. I could have enough cool old-bordered foils to build an entire deck by now.
>>97212060>uh oh someone doesn't know that gavin had already defined MLD since february 2025!!kekw this is the type of moron I have to deal with in this shitty board on a daily basis
>>97211098A full year free of UB. Epstein files will be released fully unredacted and Mario's brother will be freed before that ever flies though.
>>97212063>since there isn't a sideboardThis is the shittest bait imaginable. The wish conversation literally began with this fucking post: >>97212002
>>97212063>>97212086I mean THIS fucking post: >>97211912
What IS mass land denial anyway? Did we ever get a proper definition? Can I play Blood Moon in my shitty casual deck or is it automatically Bracket 4? What about this Harbinger? Is it okay because it's a creature that's easy to remove?
>>97212088>There isn't a sideboard, so you can just pull from your entire collection.Wonder why wishes were only limited to sideboards in the formats where they do anything.Critical thinking isn't your strong suit though it seems.
>>97212093Oh look. It's this stale and rotten bait again.
>>97212093>What IS mass land denial anyway? Did we ever get a proper definition?gavin already defined it, and no i'm not going to spoonfeed you>Can I play Blood Moon in my shitty casual deck or is it automatically Bracket 4?if it's a thematic bracket 1 deck (like a general zhao all UB mono red deck), then yesif it's not, b4>What about this Harbinger? Is it okay because it's a creature that's easy to remove?the vulnerability of the card has nothing to do with gavin's definition so no it's not ok b3 below
>>97212093Rules as written, no, but you can use them if you disclose them before even starting. I have Magus of the Moon in my mono red decks though and no one cares at my LGS. I think Blood Moon is so feared because it's an enchantment, and your lands become something that pretty much cannot interact with enchantments.Every color has creature removal though. Even colorless.
>>97212098It's not bait. Some guy brought a real life game to a halt because he wanted to debate brackets and mass land denial after I played that merfolk. Everybody at the table treated him like he was nuts. But I want to know if he was right after all.
>turn 3>guy slaughter pacts my zellix>note: his only source of black mana is my urborg>on my endstep I teferi's my urborg>he loses and rants about how that isn't fairhave I reached peak retardation
>>97212113That's a cool way to die. If this actually happened that guy is a tool.
>>97212107Figured as much. Guess I'll just disclose that I play evil land denial before every game.
>>97212113this only speaks to how strong tpro really is
>>97212119if you're evil like you claim to be you'll find a way to skirt around gavin's definition
>>97212120wrong teferi's
>>97212095Nigga it says word for fucking word that in casual formats wishes pull from the collection. That's not some sort of oversight. Thats how WotC wants the game to be played. You're attempting to add a restriction that WotC doesn't view as necessary.
>>97212126ok then i won't even be mad if you beat me this way
>>97212126Holy based
>>97211229this if I can't combo with clock
>how am I supposed to get through your deck when you have sunforger and your gay commander out and you can just tutor for any kind of protection and recur it?>Similar to how you would deal with Mother of Runes, you need to use multiple removals at once, or for me to burn it for something else then destroy either one.>I just tried and failed with the one artifact removal I have in the deck!Do bracket 3s really?
>>97211434having lots of interaction doesn't make games competitive, it makes them fun
>>97212169>Do bracket 3s really?there are shitty players in every format/brackettake the free wins, not your problem
>>97212169>ask two new guys to join us for tonight>friend of mine is playing his mono green and I'm playing my mono-red with little to no interaction outside of chaos warp>mono green plays his forgotten ancient on turn 3>by turn 8 it's a 20/20, with no one having any removal>by turn 10 I'm dead and it's a 30/30.>by turn 12 he has won and the two new guys are amazed at how such a cheap card can be this powerful
>>97212169>using bracketslmao
>>97212169>bragging about abusing sunforger (which you probably tutored for)>'bro its a 3'we get it, you are a faggot
>hurry and make a BR version of this wotc so that the whole world can replace terminate already
>ruins the night your wife's boyfriend allows you to go out and play with your buddies in your path
>>97212203BRInstantthis spell can't be countereddestroy target creatureis this so hard wotc?!
>>97211132>when you troon out you phase out of existanceThis shit is fucking hilarious and I run it in my cloud deck instead of my boarderless variant.
>>97212211>Cloud is a troonretard
>>97212221He dressed up as a woman and attempted to seduce a man, sounds pretty troonish.Now you give us your tranime cope where it was totally just a joke haha
>>97211132>>97212211This is a comical moment written in the 90's before troons
>>97212223He didn't try to seduce a man he was infiltrating a guarded palace to rescue his friendThis is like saying the Mulan movie endorses troons
>>97211098Unban the terrible trio(dockside, mana crypt, and jew lotus)
>>97212202Spending/holding up 8 mana a turn cycle just to durdle is pretty bracket 3 anon.
>>97212223>has a family guy picture saved in his your computer>its creator seth macfarlene is a well known gay rights activist>uhhh your tranime is shit cuz troons
>>97212232>This is like saying the Mulan movie endorses troonsbut it does tho?keep the cope going, transphobe!
>>97212225I was born in 92, its a joke thats literally gotten funnier with age. They finally added a punchline to a funny joke and I love it.
>>97212250>They finally added a punchline to a funny joke and I love it.holy reddit lingo
>>97212243>>97212225>>97212211you lost.OUR game now :)
>>97212243God i love scitzos. You arent even talking to the same person because the enemy you're fighting is in your head.
>>97212265that seth macfarlene tidbit REALLY screwed you up huhoh well, the more you know
>>97212262More like team retardis. Rose and 10th is the best dr combo and the troonth doctor sucks as bad as her season.
>>97212223>Now you give us your tranime cope where it was totally just a joke hahaHe did the thing! >>97212225
>>97212268It didnt, but keep going your scitzo ranting amuses me and I like free entertainment. Its hilarious watching you lash out at every stranger who responds to you.
>>97212270>Rose and 10th is the best dr combowho the fuck asked, slop enjoyer?just kys
>>97212273sadly I think he thinks he's trolling. a lot of these esl shitskins think simply being replied to makes them le master maymay trolls.
>>97212285Why would ESL shitskins be here? They can't afford magic to begin with.Holy retard.
>>97212283The games for everyone except poorfags, so I had to educate you to try to improve your opinions. I know you didnt ask, your iq is too low to question your own bad taste and opinions.
>>97212296Said the shitskin retard lmao. Show us your most expensive deck or we'll keep farming you for laughs.
>>97212299Ever met a colored person that uses proxies?Me neither
>>97212306duh, you shitskins dont have cards. you just come into online spaces and shitpost in them.
>>97212306Ok nodecks poorfag pajeet. Good luck fighting your instict to jump in front of a train.
>>97212310>yes instead of /v/ and /vg/ and /vt/ and /vmg/ where shitskins can coast being free to play and /pol/ where shitskins can get paid to astroturf they instead choose /edhg/ which is one of the whitest hobbies whitey has conceived
>>97212299>>97212306LMAO you started this bizarre discussion over being brown and gay out of nowhere. There is no way that you both are not at least a bit gay and dreaming of brown boys. Kiss already.
>>97212315yeah? you get off to shitting up the place, it doesnt matter where. bet you trolled club penguin too.
>>97212320>no u!!Gottem already
>>97212320>still too poor to afford decks>still gay>still retarded>still scitzo>still getting farmedSAAR
>>97212321You get off to being victimized in an anime forum by imaginary browns in your head that's for sure
>>97212334sorry schizo, you already used up your daily allowance of no u.
>>97212335>help my precious /edhg/ is being raided by browns!>uh, no?>no you're the schizo here!Enjoy being trolled by jeets i guess
>>97212341you can keep doubling down. but everyone else can just scroll up to see you're just parroting at this point. very esl of you.
This shit is fucking hilarious. We need wotc to print a nigrified version of this card in 2026 to commemorate this moment.
New elk art just dropped. Still confused if it's a boy or grill.
>>97212352There are more options than boy and grill, but you already knew that.
>>97212351Such a 2026 commerative card will show a schizo white person just like the original for obvious reasons
>>97212352enby af
>>97212352>>97212369tranny
>You are gay!>And you are brown!>You are a brown tranny!/edhg/ - EDH/Commander General
>>97212369Either way, cute af
>>97212386its fun to send people into tard rages on slow nights.
>>97212371not everything is a tranny
>>97212351Behold, the magic the gathering card that EDHG deserves
>>97212386Sounds like the average pod at my LGS
>>97212352I'm gonna fuck its ass one way or another.
>>97212406If your """gender""" doesn't align with your biological sex you are definitionally a tranny
>>97212352This shit makes me uncomfortable.The original elk avatar was kinda cute. Now it's just uncanny valley. This is just a femboy fursona now with some pedo vibes.
>>97212437So....hot?
>>97212444If I wanted hot femboy furries, I know artists that draw them.This is just watching a grown man live out his infantilization fetish. There's nothing attractive about that.
>>97212450>there's nothing attractive about femboy furriesincorrect
>>97212452 There's nothing attractive about this one.
Is there a way to get this card to a 4 or 5?
>>97212450>infantilization fetishBased. 3/3 Elk confirmed as white.
Commander was a mistake, wasn't it?
>>97212470>ai comic
>>97212480How dare you? I drew this myself!
>>97212470the bottom looks way more fun
>>97211912Nobody wants everyone to drag their binder around for wishes
>>97212542Oh you don't want the politics either. My LGS allows wishes in Commander. There is one old jewish guy who lugs his whole collection with him to loan people cards to wish for. If he sees you are up against artifacts hell loan you his Vandalblast for $2.
>>97212509>mentioning bottoms after that 3/3 Elk avatarThis thread finna make me act up
>>97212542Then don’t play wishes. Or just slot in like 10 cards you expect to want into the back of your deck box.It’s not difficult.>>97212587This didn’t happen
>>97212542literal no-games post. everyone has their trades with them so you just put the wish cards on the last page
God damn whoever came up with the idea of printing unique cards in super hard to get products again like nexus of fate but WITHOUT the overwhelming pushback deserves a raise, to heaven
>>97212688Silence, schizo
>>97212688Nexus of fate is easy to findThe problem is a lot of them have shitty art
>>97212697One mythic wildcard has been deposited to your arena account>>97212716>Newfag who wasn't around back then wishes the anti-consumer method had even more desirable cardsGod damn don't WotC shills get weekends off?
>>97212463>4Make a landfall naya base and ignore him until you have 12 or so lands>5no lol
Just to make sure...Even in a deck that really likes the lifegain.Even in a monoblack deck that runs 34 swamps.I shouldn't run these, right?
>>97212463shadow in the warp, urza's incubator, semblance anvil and krosan drover come to mind that are not like 5+ mana by themselves
>>97212744>still cant argue why nexus of fate is "super hard to find"Let me guess, you think a card shouldnt be above $20 for any reason
>>97212794You could run corrupt if you are really playing loose with your life total, i suppose
>>97212816the cheapest legal version of a card should not exceed that, obviously, that's common sense
>>97212829And yet here you are complaining about a ~$5 card when you could be complaining about something more deserving, like Worldfire
>>97212794Yeah.
Start at 38 lands.Cut one land for each draw spell you intend to play on or before turn 4.People who suggest cutting lands for ramp are incomprehensible. You want to be playing both. If you ramp on a turn you miss a land drop, that isn't ramp.
>>97212846it took them 4 years to fix that and this time they are most likely not going to reprint any of thoseand tourists are loving it because they don't need to care about the consequencesI wonder when they are going to print a card in a product like it that is so powerful it warps a format again and becomes so scarce tournament players have to speak up
>>97212861Who are you talking to? Who said anythinng about ramp? Are you a bot?
avengerbros...how we gonna collect them before thanos...i-i-is he gonna win?!
>>97212861You genuinely do not want or need to ramp anymore. Anyone still extolling the virtues of ramp is a relic in the context of deck building. Draw power also doesnt replace lands.Genuinely one of the worst pieces of advice ive read in this thread.
>>97211925>the game rules dont actually apply to the gameNo? In a new format, the creators create new rules to go along with it. The most obvious ones, would be limiting the sets you can build from (not found anywhere in the comprehensive ruleset for the base game). Youre retarded. And you should be embarrassed to be arguing the same wrong thing for over a year now.
This might be the worst captcha system ive ever seen. Its literally broken on phone>image 13 white balls>image 22 white balls>image 33 white balls>image 22 white balls>image 53 white ballsIs it different on computer?
>>97213231yeah basically, i only really run rampant growth/cultivate in green decks for color fixing that isn't susceptible to removal.
>>97213238Haven't tried it on phone yet, after updating the app. It's easy on pc
>>97212902avengwho? tha-who? what ancient tongue are you speaking unc, we are in 2025
>a lot of noobs are cutting beast within/generous gift from decks because a youtuber told them it's inefficient>suddenly all of my enchantments are sticking and ive had numerous games now where someone can draw their whole deck and still not have an answer for my "i can't lose" enchantment
Fellow pirates, do you have any pretty picture of Admiral Beckett Brass? I would like to play her younger version, when she looked like Big Mom in her prime.
>>97213250Why do write this as greentext? Are you an idiot?
>>97213238Idk what you're smoking. It's easy on mobile.
>>97213250>white and green players only have generous gift/beast within to remove enchantments Retarded larp post. Even when I ran those garbage spells I wouldn't use them on enchantments... because im in white/green and enchantment removal is incredibly common at better rates than GG or BW.
>>97213272noobs don't want to run nature's claim
I'm going to build this fucker as a mean stax pillow fort/donate deck. My main ideas are>Transcendence>Nine Lives>Enduring Renewal and stuff like Solitary Confinement and Phyrexian Unlife/Solemnity, Gideon of the Trials and Platinum Angel to not die. What else is good in Stiltzkin?
>>97213259She actually looked like Catherine Zeta-Jones in her prime.
>>97213250I've got a reverse funny of this.Absolutely no one expects the mono black player to shut down Three Tree City or Nyxthos. Definitely much more of a meta call, but I've noticed a lot of people at the LGS have been riding on no one touching lands. I expected it to be a dead draw most of the time, but it's useful about 50% of the time.
>>97213283>nature's claimok grandpa time for beddy bye
>>97211098Mine is that they bring the sexy back. I want big titty bitches on my cards. That is all.
>>97213316>Playing cards printed after 2015Cringe
>>97213313It's also good if you run any swampwalkers
>>97213316NTA but you're comparing a 1 cmc answer vs a 2 cmc answer with mediocre modality.
>>97212688I just checked both LGS I have and they each have 10+ copies of this card.
>>972133341. It's green. You have mana coming out of your ass in green, you don't need to penny pinch mana for answers the way you do in other colors.2. Protection for your commander is hardly mediocre modality.
>>97213238The new captcha system is literally an iq test. Feels good never having a problem with it. Also the swirly background can change as well
I run Generous Gift and Beast Within. It feels so good always having an answer to anything.
>>97213340Nah, lower CMC = less mana you have to hold up. I'd rather run Claim + Tamiyo's than substitute either for this chaff. You'll understand one day my tourist friend.
>>97213340>he runs a deck that gets crippled if its commander is removedTruly plebeian
>>97213334>Mediocre modalityIdiot
>>97213392If it had hexproof or protection from a color of choice, it'd be a different story. But spot indestructible alone just isn't as good as it was 5 years ago.
>>97213355Please tell me when every image has 3 or 2 balls what the one that stands out is anon. Or heck i had one where its the letter and numbers. 4 images, all literally identical. Which one is different there?
>>97213355The only problem with it was that it had bugs with 4chan X for the first day and would barely ever let posts through without errors. Now it's fine.
>>97213313>People don't expect the color with Sinkhole to remove landsDo EDH players really?
should i sell my full art scapeshift i pulled because there's no way to play it that isnt just homogenous landfall slop?
>>97213464Sometimes it's not the shapes or numbers/letters in the foreground. You also need to look at the swirling background. It's just pattern recognition. Try moving the slider quickly like a flipbook to spot the differences.
>>97213522Yeah why not? Which would you prefer, the card or $50?
>>97213522I did so yea put a nice little bit of cash in your pocket. To buy more cards.
>>97213556was hoping someone could do my thinking for me and produce a non-boring way to use it.
>>97212470No, but it should be mandatory that everyone has at least a dozen 60 card format games as well as at least 2 prerelease events to better appreciate the game
>>97211301>nigga playing korbol vs 3 shitdecks>I randomly drew koma from my 99>koma is the only thing keeping kor at bay>Other two niggas focus on me>i gg ran out of fuel>korbol fucking blast them in a single turnSometimea i wonder what the fuck is the thought process
>>97213515Really though. I've literally never seen Sinkhole played. Its always an incidental Generous Gift or player removal to answer a Cradle.>>97213515
>>97213610Every color has Wasteland and Demolition Field. You should always be running one of those if you don't have another way to hit lands.Granted, the idea of EDH being a multiplayer game where you will sometimes need to interact with your opponents is a concept often lost on players, so I don't really fault you for noticing this either.
>>97213588My personal favorite is when someone's running a Commander that is a massive linchpin to the rest of the deck (Judith, Neheb, Krenko, etc.) and nobody but you will do anything about them.>But they haven't done anything!>Anon I'm just playing my silly little goblins!>Why are you targeting me!And then you get focused by the other retards, scoop, and then they sit there confused when the person you said was going to win, wins.Alot of these decks completely fall apart without their commanders and it's baffling how many people don't understand that.You kill Judith once or twice and suddenly their deck becomes a stack of bulk bin instants and sorceries that don't fucking do anything because they don't have deathtouch.
>>97213652Been there too many times. Il implore the rest of the table that if we dont deal with X, we die. Only explanation I have is that they are either pussys and dont want to ruffle anyone's feathers or they are new
>>97213671At this point i given upI just poker face all game and let people figure out what happened post game
>>97213652>nobody but you will do anything about themThis reminds of a game I played many years ago where my Tariel kept eating stps while I had two cards in hand and a Prossh player just got the game handed to him for free while those other two bozos were just jacking off and doing absolutely nothing.
>>97213686>I just poker face all game and let people figure out what happened post gameThe tragedy is knowing 99% of this community are retarded and won't learn shit from a loss.Reddit and Youtube have taught them it's literally everyone else's fault but their own.
>he runs a deck that gets crippled if its commander is removedSOVL
>>97213709I didn't drive to the LGS to watch and hear you seethe like a manchild because someone removed your Krenko.
>>97213717yeah, I drove to the LGS to see someone nod and say "it was the right decision" when I removed his krenko.
Uhmm yea, like most normal people I will not target your commander and I will let you do your thing.I'm not here to win, I'm here to spread good vibes and chill with some epic planeswalkers!
>>97213720If this is how people at your LGS act, I envy you.
>I need my commander for my deck to work>They believe I cast him raw on curve with no mana upI always have it. I have never not had it. I will continue to have it.
>>97213721>I'm not here to win, I'm here to spread good vibes and chill with some epic planeswalkers!If commanders are a 10/10 on the STOP TOUCHING MY STUFF REEEE scale, Planeswalkers are a close second.>WHY AREN'T YOU LETTING ME KEEP MY GAME PIECE THAT ACCRUES VALUE EVERY TURN CYCLE AND LETS ME WIN IF IT GOES UNTOUCHED>AHHHHHH SAVE ME GAVIN
>>97213721This but unironically. Might also be the reason why I still play at home with friends instead of with incelCORE retards at your local LGS.
>>97213709I do, but I also know to run enough ways to protect it
>>97213721legitimately, if the commander is chill, ok. But if your commander is marchesa, or urza, then sorry chief, it's gonna fucking die.
>>97213720>>97213717>>97213709>yes, please do kill my commander :D
The correct play is not to base your removal decisions on whether or not a permanent is a player's commander, but the degree to which it advances their gameplan or threatens the board.
>>97213854I'm just gonna tell the rest of the table not to block your 4/4 with trample.
>>97213854What is the ruling on what happens when he dies? Do you still get to put him back in the command zone? Since dying is defined as going from the battlefield to the graveyard, he'd first have to go there, right?
>>97213866For some treason I thought the lizard cuck got trample. I haven't had my coffee yet.
>>97213867I'm too lazy to look up the official wording, but essentialy the choice to put the commander in the commander zone happens right at the moment they've changed zones. So Kura and other legends that want to die work just fine.
>No Korra card in Avatar, not even in a SLDSorry Korrafags, SpongeGODS win again.
>>97213867back when EDH was a hacked in format, putting your commander back in the command zone was always a replacement effect. now,>903.9a If a commander is in a graveyard or in exile and that object was put into that zone since the last time state-based actions were checked, its owner may put it into the command zone. This is a state-based action. See rule 704.>903.9b If a commander would be put into its owner’s hand or library from anywhere, its owner may put it into the command zone instead. This replacement effect may apply more than once to the same event. This is an exception to rule 614.5.so on the first SBA after it gets exiled or put in the gy, you can command zone it. that means it does die or it does get exiled (for 'if you do' effects). if it gets put into a hidden zone, you can command zone it as a replacement effect, but you really only care about the hand one for something like skullbriar.
>>97213961If it goes from hidden zone to hidden zone (you put it in your library) you can't swap it because you never have the chance to see it's the commander, even if it has a different sleeve. (that's you cheating)
>>97213916...because we're getting a Korra set later.
Been building the owl for a week or so now. The cool one with tuck in the command zone. Happy to have a home for Lantern of Insight.I'm looking for blue finishers that aren't extra turns. So far, I've got Sway of the Stars and Candlekeep Inspiration. My playgroup is too whiny to handle the true Lantern Control (TM) experience.Anyone else building him? Have ideas for Monoblue go-wide game enders?
>>97214010Holy mother of God the new Captcha sucks.
>>97213916>>97213987What are you guys talking about? Korra who? There's no person with that name in ATLA and it never had a sequel or follow-up
>>97213973everyone needs to be informed when your commander changes zones though. it's public information.
>>97213973A commander's exact location is known at all times even when in a hidden information zone (i.e. using different sleeves is not only legal, but you're supposed to mark where your commander is in the deck). This is a legacy rule from when tuck existed and this actually mattered.
>>97213721I would have a great time with you.
>need to buy Oubliette, Aether Snap, Screaming Nemesis, Tainted Remedy., and HatredWeeeeeee, Hope I get some money for christmas
>>97214109You have to be 18 to post here
>>97213854insane how this card is this cheap.green has multiple ways of sac´ing its own dudes and fetching any three lands is nuts
>>97214181>Fetching three lands>To handHe's kind of dogshit as a commander, especially considering mono green doesn't have a ton of ways to sneakily recur him and you cant make use of all those lands without previous setup like Azusa and co.
>>97214181Its cheap because its not that good.
>>97214181>>97213854I never knew about this card. If it put those land cards directly into play, I'd replace my Seedguide Ash with this fella.
>remove the banlist>bring back the commander tuck rule>bring back old legendary ruleThere. I fixed Commander. You're welcome.
>>97214201I don't think you need to recur him at all. Seems like he is a one and done that just fetches the most broken lands in your deck.
>>97211481The fact that this post is anywhere near controversial is insane.
Are there any based conservative MTG influencers/players?
>sit down at table>’its a 3’
>>97214360If you saw those commanders and believed him, that's on you.
>>97214360he will somehow fumble the game anyways by not understanding his lines
>>97214360I only see 2 GCs, looks like a 3 so far anon
>>97214360>Brown skin >Lied about his deck powerAdds up
>>97214360Nothing on that board indicates anything above a 3
>>97214360>Sit down to play bracket 3 (the bracket with game changers)>See opponent is playing T&K>Wonder why they played game changers (B3 cards)This is LITERALLY your fault.
>>97214306Pretty much.If you're truly desperate and need him a second time, you're in green. Your recursion for him is ramping enough that you don't mind paying the tax
>>97214450To be fair, there is more to being a bracket 3 and above than just game changers. That said, those commanders is literally asking to get pubstomped though. There is no fair bracket 3 blue farm
>>97212861>Start at 38 lands.Rachel plz go
>>97214478>Tymna and Kraum HAS to be blue farm???
>>97212352SexNOW
>>97214522>Generic value engine commanders won't be generic value engine
>>97213357Bad player alert
>>97214478>>97214522I've thought about running them as an FF tribal deck lmao
>>97212352>Still confused if it's a boy or grill.If it's an elk and it has antlers, it's a boy. Reindeer are the only cervids whose females have antlers.
>>97214537>nooooo you can't just remove any value engine or combo piece I play!>those are bad cards you need to run better cards that are infinitely less flexible!
>>97214535Sure. But what about bracket 3 says you can't run a generic value engine?
>>97214579>I'm playing CEDH S tier commanders, its is a 3 and I'm not pubstomping, lolSevere mental retardation.
>>97214541Oh anon. You're too innocent for furry porn, plenty of anatomical female deer furries still have antlers because theyre a cute accessory
So you're telling my I can't build my Tymna Tana 4c tokenslop deck because bloodpod exists?
>>97214611Still not actually articulating what the actual problem is. He is following bracket rules, what has he done wrong? Use your words, explain your thoughts and feelings.
>>97214654Can I say something without everyone getting upset?
>>97214611>play 99 basic lands>but my commanders are Tymna/Kraumerm CEDH deck much?
>>97214579Blue farm is literally "generic value" but in cEDH.
>>97214702this is incorrect
>>97214714All I'm seeing here is a 3.
>>97214674probably notbut say it anyways
This dude isn't a CEDH commander is it?Thinking about trying landfall but being a little sneaky about it
>>97214714>2 Soul SistersThis clearly isn't a game of EDH fuck off.
>>97214747
>>97214763unironically peak magic
>>97214746>This dude isn't a CEDH commander is it?does it matter?
>>97214763The pretentious way they draw and look at this hands pissed me off.
>>97214778Its to show a single card is being drawn and prevent any possibility of opponent seeing it. Youre an angry low IQ retard.
>>97214796Whatever you say troon
>>97214365>>97214383>>97214395>>97214403>>97214424>>97214450>but but but I only see X game changers!!! >easily had 8+ including one ring, fow, negation and rhystic, with tutors>garuda player combos a bit by stealing his spark doubler, vocalist>we all get milled out>win with clive self wheel deck with past in flame>have to tibalt/return the favor his free counterspells and skullcrack to kill through his one ring protection AND flashback tibalts for one ring>win>everyone is shuffled up for next game>erm actually you couldnt win because you cant cast spells after past in flame, they dont have flashback>i casted will of jeskai>erm yeah so you didnt say what you picked, I heard draw>game is cleaned up and hes insisting I lostA sore loser and a bitch through and through.
>>97214833Flashback tibalts for teferis protection**
>>97214833>mass replyingnot reading all that shit nigger
>>97214833>Plays 4th GC and you don't immediately call it outEven more your fault.
>>97214833>I just had it perfectly Uh huh.
>>97214833>all shit that isn't in the imageok
>>97214654It was a community college to be fair, hence his channel name.Dude was barely more qualified than the people he was teaching
>>97214739That's a nice ass
>>97214882What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
>>97214778you either dye your hair or have some sort of piercings, probably both.seek help.
>>97214927He's clearly gay. This shouldn't be shocking in current year.
>>97212902Stones? THANOS'DSigils? JAILOR'DReality? FUCKED
>>97214714anon spilled his pringles
>>97214867Yeah, because it’s my entire deck was milled with past in flames in my graveyard. https://archidekt.com/decks/14041500/burning_chaos_in_the_wind>>97214874i’m sorry I didnt post a lets play. I posted a picture of turn 3 and how it ended. The point, is that it’s obvious from the volcanic island, smothering tithe and grim monolith that its a proxy pussy. Simple pattern recognition.
>>97214631Then they're clearly reindeer.
>>97214966>Sigils? JAILOR'DOh God no. I thought we were retconning that entire expansion away.
I'm not even gay, it's an objectively nice ass.
give me a mono-black commander to run
>>97215091The Destined Black Mage
>>97215091
>>97214999>come to edhg>larp>get angry when people dont care
How much interaction is too much for bracket 2? What about bracket 3? Had a guy say my decks have too much interaction in them and that lets me win too often. It don't even run more than 4 counterspells in any deck.
>>97215213any amount you want, it's not a bracket problem but a gay bitch problem
>>97215213Think you should have 15 pieces of interaction in your deck, be it protection spells, removal spells, board wipes, etc.
>>97215210>larp
>>97214080the legacy rule was removed. https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/commander-rules-discussion-forum/746513-rules-update-face-down-exiled-commandershttps://apps.magicjudges.org/forum/topic/50768/
>>97215233How goes the battle on your oops all slop decl
>>97215213drop the word 'interaction' from deck building. Define: What does your deck do? Do you NEED your commander? When do you want to win on or is it NA? If your deck revolves around your command sticking to the board, you'll want pieces that protect it in some ways. If your deck is designed to go faster, you'll be playing with fast decks as well, so removing opponent threats also protect your win and deal with any value engines. How often do you draw or tutor? This will inform you of what you'll want to include, and insure you don't trick yourself into thinking you have 'interaction' which are blanket removal that don't help you at all.
>>97215233Why does the basic bitch fly?
>>97215318>drop interaction>then ask yourself >what kind of interaction do I need...
Yes new player you should run:40 lands, because missing land drops feels bad20 pieces of target removal or protection5 board wipes15 sources of card drawSignet, Sol Ring, Fellwar stoneThat leaves about 16 slots for actual cardsThats all you need
>>97215317depressed since no one showed up to play the other day, thanks for asking
>>97215330This, unironically. Maybe if they followed this advice, they would be capable of actually building decks worth a damn.
>>97215406they'd end up with a deck that cannot function on their theme unless their theme is extremely supported like a mega-tribe such as zombies
>>97215291Doesn't matter, the commander attribute is a function of the card and is visible regardless of the zone. The legacy rule that was removed was about forcing the commander back to the command zone if it was exiled face down, not the characteristic of being a commander. >903.3. Each deck has a legendary card designated as its commander. That card must be either (a) a creature card, (b) a Vehicle card, or (c) a Spacecraft card with one or more power/toughness boxes. This designation is not a characteristic of the object represented by the card; rather, it is an attribute of the card itself. The card retains this designation even when it changes zones.>Example: A commander that’s been turned face down (due to Ixidron’s effect, for example) is still a commander. A commander that’s copying another card (due to Cytoshape’s effect, for example) is still a commander. A permanent that’s copying a commander (such as a Body Double, for example, copying a commander in a player’s graveyard) is not a commander.>903.3e If an effect refers to a characteristic of “your commander,” it can find the appropriate player’s commander and see its current characteristics, as modified by continuous effects and other rules, in all zones, including that player’s library and hand.https://media.wizards.com/2025/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020251114.txt
>>97215330>16 cards for your actual gameplan>enough>40 lands if you're playing on low curve>Why yes, I would like to get mana flooded.
>>97215484You mean a theme for new players? Do tell.
>>97215522>he doesn't run tutors>his commander isn't a draw engine>his commander isn't a wincon all by itself w/o ever needing to attack or need another card to combo off of>his lands don't cyclengmi
>>97215584>He's already moving the goalposts NGMI indeed.
>>97215590i'm not defending the retard that posted an obvious troll decklist, but every joke is a half truth and not being able to make a 42 land sans green deck function is a bona fide skill issue
>I draw a card, then I discard>What did you discard>Why?>Its public knowledge>Oh, just a land.>Okay.>Okay, now I cast reanimate on this Elesh Norn in my graveyard...>When did that get there>Just now.
>>97215327I literally explain the purpose of being granular and explicitly mention why having ‘x interaction’ quota is silly.
>>97215505903.3 / 903.3e: “Commander-ness” sticks to the physical card, and if an effect refers to a characteristic of “your commander,” the game can find that card in any zone (including library/hand). But this does not give any player permission to look at hidden information.  • 406.3 / 406.3a: A card exiled face down can’t be examined, and a face-down exiled card has no characteristics.  • 406.4: If something requires choosing an exiled card, you may only choose a specific face-down exiled card if you’re allowed to look at it; otherwise you can only choose a pile and it’s random.  • Result (official judge-netrep ruling): When a card is exiled face down (e.g., Gonti / Thief of Sanity style), you don’t get to apply the commander “send to command zone” option, and you can effectively lose your commander in face-down exile. If you want it as a single sentence:“Even though a commander card remains your commander (903.3), a face-down exiled card can’t be examined and has no characteristics (406.3/406.3a), and you can’t pick a specific face-down exiled card unless you’re allowed to look at it (406.4), so the commander-return option doesn’t applyhttps://apps.magicjudges.org/forum/topic/50768/
