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I MAKE NEW RAT I MAKE NEW RAT I MAKE NEW RAT I MAKE NEW RAT I MAKE NEW RAT I MAKE NEW RAT: Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>TQ
Do you have a tribal deck? What tribe?
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TQ: Kind of, I have a Legendary matters Shanid/Dihada deck I run, so legendary tribal I suppose
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>>97235405
>STILL missing the subject line
Embarrassing.
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>TQ
My Azusa deck is Maro-Sorcerer tribal. My Archimandrite deck is naturally Monk/Advisor/Artificer tribal
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>>97235405
>Do you have a tribal deck? What tribe?
Goblins tribal and Dragons tribal
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>>97235405
>TQ Do you have a tribal deck? What tribe?
Dragon, Hydras, Wurms, Germs
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>TQ
Just insects at the moment.
Gonna work on a Myr and Fungus this year though.
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>TQ
Insect tribal. The latest insect cards from EOE really helped streamline the deck. Play insects and additional land drops/ramps so boardwipes only hinders your opponent so you swarm the board again. Don't ignore the big trample bugs, your commander gives them deathtouch and a lot of damage goes through.
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Is this game worth playing?
My last experience was a few years ago at a game store and some kid cried when I countered his Voja.
Now I'm seeing all sorts of bracket nonsense that I have no interest in learning.
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>>97235405
Three wizard decks, Derevi birds, Kreat goblins, Lathril elves, Yuriko ninjas and Disa tarmagoyfs
I made Adeliz/Azami because I collected every wizard for different iterations of Inalla
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>TQ
My first ever deck was a $25 Miirym dragons deck that I loved because it was (obviously) strong despite the low cost.
My first money deck was Pantlaza dinosaurs, which I loved because I leaned more into exile and exile synergies than just dino tribal, but don't get me wrong it was still dino tribal.

Abandoned both because they were too strong and tribal slop just isn't interesting. Good for new players but established players should be more creative than that.

I reworked Miirym into clones tribal though, which made it kind of funny. It's in DIRE need of a rework though because even as a joke deck, it does absolutely nothing for 4-5 turns. I'm running something like 30 clones in it but I might need to cut that down to 20 clones and give the deck 25 pieces of ramp because it can't actually do anything until Miirym is on the field and I have 2-4 mana open.
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>>97235405
>TQ:
My Orvar deck is Eldrazi tribal, and my Scarab God deck is Shapeshifter tribal.
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Wow. A lot more tribaltroons then I thought there would be
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>>97235460
Bracket 1 doesn't exist, bracket 2 is precons, bracket 3 is power level 7, bracket 4 is power level 8, bracket 5 is cedh.
Most people are too stupid to understand how the brackets are supposed to work anyways. Just say you're a 3 and you'll be fine.
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>>97235405
>Tq
Several
Vanilla creatures, birds, angels, rats.
>>97235460
>Now I'm seeing all sorts of bracket nonsense that I have no interest in learning.
You can ignore brackets they're just power level 2.0
The game is worth playing but also the people who play suck.
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>>97235476
Yeah, net decking top decks is peak creativity
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>>97235405
>TQ
Slivers, Goblins and Squirrels. I like sticking to a cohesive theme, but I'm trying to find something that isn't tribal. Maybe go hard into skeletons with Tinybones.
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>>97235493
Not sure what part of my post brought that on. I'm guessing you don't like Pantlaza?
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>>97235500
>Maybe go hard into skeletons with Tinybones.
Is this bait? Tinybones makes a terrible skellie commander.
Just pick something with a specific theme or goal.
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>>97235426
Azusa Planeswalker retcon when?
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Oozes are my favorite tribe, but I haven't built a dedicated ooze deck yet.
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>>97235521
>Is this bait?
Nah, just want to find a balance between discard and something thematic and fun. Yeah it's not going to be very powerful, but that's not what I want to build. Idk maybe rogues and treasure tokens could work as well.
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Post tokens
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>>97235500
>RS3 Zanik
shame
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>>97235503
Yeah, "seasoned" players just net deck or pull from nothing but top cards in edhrec.
Not a dig as you specifically, but can't rag tribal players for not being creative when, conservatively, 90% of the player base just leeches off the 10% who are creative.
Just look at Artist's talent for a recent example, every one thought that was a trash card and a bulk rare until someone figured out a way to have it be a core engine at a standard tourny, now every one is gobbling it up to follow suit.
Happens all the time.
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>>97235569
back to your containment thread, spammer >>97234806
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>TQ
counterspell tribal
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>>97235405
>TQ
I've had a couple. Started with human tribal with Kyler and zombies with Muldrotha. Haven't played either in probably nearly a year or more but they were fun starting out. Since then the only tribal stuff I've tried was building Ashcoat recently. Only got to try it at one game night before the Christmas break but I liked how he and his rats were playing out.
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>>97235583
yeah nobody answered me there because they're too busy bitching about Lorwyn having too much purple, so I came here where people actually talk about cards
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>>97235569
I would use this if I ever build that fairy deck I always wanted
>>97235600
>AI slop
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>>97235573
Objectively the cutest version of her.
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>>97235405
>Do you have a tribal deck? What tribe?
I'm a tribal scrub, so many. Rats, merfolk, slivers, goblins, angels, myr. And some "theme" tribals like non-humans, artifact creatures, or flyers. Even my decks that aren't explicitly tribal have some leaning in that direction. Brago has a lot of spirits, Baylen is chock full of bunnies, that sort of thing.
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>>97235611
wrong
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What did you get your Trans GF this Christmas?
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>>97235619
>he doesn't know
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>>97235600
Can you make a new years resolution to kill yourself?
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>>97235405
>TQ
Mono red Barbarians
Mono blue Cephalid
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>>97235597
tokens aren't cards
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>>97235634
No, but I'll stop posting them for now.
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Building this R0 deck.
Is the strongest thing you can do with him just turning dorks into dreadmaws then leveraging with dino tribal and power matters?
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Wow this is pretty nice; MH3 elemental tribal!
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>>97235658
you still pay the 4GG to turn
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wotc hire me
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>>97235692
needs to cost and discount 1 more to trigger beans
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>>97235692
Too out of rate for a common. Would make for a really shit limited.
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>>97235715
perfect for wotc then
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>>97235715
It's exclusive to the Boku no Precons.
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>>97235405
>TQ
Izzet Giants
Dimir Zombies
Dimir Faeries
Gruul Werewolves
Mono white Phyrexians
Mardu Humans
Mardu Vampires
Mardu Angels
Sultai Hydras
Grixis Pirates
Golgari Squirrels
Naya Dinos
Simic Merfolk
Bant Elves

I love tribal decks.
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>>97235670
That's the idea
>vomit out hand of dorks
>cast a dreadmaw
>reload with soul's majesty effects
>go wide and tall then kill with unnatural growth/overrun effects
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Is there any reason someone wouldn't allow this in a casual commander group?
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>>97235405
My two favorite decks are dragon tribal.
My other two decks I only play in special circumstances (playing with people I think lack mental fortitude, or I only have 30 minutes for a game)
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>>97235764
Because the person playing it is probably playing it in the 99 of a Rin and Seri slop deck, or running Rin and Seri as the """hidden""" commander.
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>>97235764
Because if they play it with the actual rin and seri it would be bullshit, and if you were going to use this you're absolutely going to be playing rin and seri
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how do I teach noobies that they should hold up interaction for someone threatening to end the game and not on some stupid shit the moment they draw it?
I've tried reasoning that the reason we keep losing is because they are wasting their removal on a card on the field that can answer an incoming threat
they just keep saying that the repeatable on board removal is too scary and keep kingmaking and I feel I need to build a deck that can get the message across since words won't
are there any other than combo decks that do this?
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>>97235780
don't steal my presents
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>>97235790
It doesn't actually work with real Rin and Seri beyond the activated ability and being a haste source, because it doesn't make your dog/cat spells the other type, just permanents. It's genuinely not actually very threatening.
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>>97235405
>Do you have a tribal deck? What tribe?
Orcs
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>>97235825
>It doesn't actually work with real Rin and Seri
Does he know?
>beyond the activated ability
Okay he knows.
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>>97235405
>>TQ
>Do you have a tribal deck? What tribe?
I get Minotaurs
You get Cowards
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>>97235460
>Is this game worth playing?
Yes I play with my old buddies remotely and made new friends at the LGS. Ignore poopdickschizo whining about UB, Commander improved my social life.
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>>97235807
I wish I knew. I really do. one guy in my pod only uses counterspells to counter any spell regardless of what it is, because the slighted him in some way.
A guy was playing Yuna and tutored for fucking walking ballista to the top of his library, then other clown countered spelled my commander that would just let me draw a little bit to try and find an answer to remove his yuna before he combo'd off because I attacked him for 3 to make a junk token.2 turns ago.
They also don't understand the point worrying about what is actually a threat over what may be a threat somewhere down the line, so better instantly cast an unoverloaded vandal blast to destroy that millennium calendar without any counters and allow the green player to play his great henge unmolested.
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>>97235721
Daring today, aremt we?
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>>97235825
>It doesn't actually work with real Rin and Seri beyond the activated ability
That's worrisome enough on its own.
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>>97235662
>elemental spells you cast from your hand have
Why is it not "Elemental cards in your hand have"?
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This looks like fun
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>>97235537
Doesn't have to be a retcon, she can just have not sparked yet
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>>97235870
Yeah, but its bant
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>>97235655
Buy an ad.
Now.
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>>97235870
It's just ok, the Human tribal part doesn't mesh amazingly with the spell recursion part
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>>97235878
>Yeah, but its bant
Dont remind me.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97235882
Ad for what? Not selling anything.
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>>97235883
>It's just ok, the Human tribal part doesn't mesh amazingly with the spell recursion part
-shrug- this is the kind of deck I like building because its fairly simple.
> commander:WUG type:human
Find good human creatures. Run generic ramp/draw/removal/counter spells with some finisher maybe like Expropriate. Simple but good.
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>>97235662
>They turned ashling into 5c abilityslop
I will burn this company to the ground
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>>97235500
Man, I loved the cave goblin quests. Dorgesh-Kaan is where I like to bankstand in OSRS.
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>>97235934
Color identity did this.
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>>97235934
she's just a normal red card with the 5 color symbols shoved there randomly so she can fit elementals there lmao
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>>97235485
>Most people are too stupid to understand how the brackets are supposed to work anyways.
Including Gavin desu
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>>97235825
Nah nah they got a point
>Have fake Rin & Seri and real Rin & Seri on the board
>Cast one chump dog
>Get 2 dog cats with haste
>Real Rin & Seri deal bogus damage to a target, you gain bogus health
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>>97235939
>Color identity did this.
What is a color identity? How is Ashling (red/black) in any way wubrg?
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>>97235405
What is some people's obsession with rats? Is it some mental illness?
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>>97235962
They're cute litty guys. It's not that complicated
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>>97235962
They are the original furry tribe, dating back to Kamigawa times.
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>>97235953
The devs staple wubrg pips onto shit because of color identity
Dont be coy
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>>97235953
>How is Ashling (red/black) in any way wubrg?
Elementals, as in, the Lorwyn tribe, are WURBG with an emphasis on red.

And she's a red card, she just has the color symbols shoved there to make it possible to make a Commander deck with elementals of all five colors, because you can only put cards in a deck that align with the color pips anywhere in the card (color identity)
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>>97235953
Uhmm, sweaty... you did NOT just dead-color her? Who the hell do you think you are. Ashling has ALWAYS been Red/Blue! Be better.
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I'd like to do soldier tribal, but all of the good ones are mono white
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>>97235934
No you wont. You'll keep buying product.
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>>97235983
Soldier Typal*
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>>97235987
No, its trible, fuck off with your woke bullshit
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>>97235979
There is nothing wrong on admiting she used to be black. She should celebrate her roots, not shun it.
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>>97235992
If you insist on this terminology, we may permit you to use "kindred". That is as much of a compromise as you will be offered.
Any further complaints will be taken as advocating for racism. We hope you make the correct choice.
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>>97235405
>TQ
I have a Temur Dinosaurs deck in order to fulfill my desire to turn cardboard sideways and smash face with indestructible super dinos.
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>>97236004
>...we may permit you to...
there is more than one tranny on this board besides the mod ?
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>>97235876
Azusa, Returning Home
2GGG
+1 Create a 1/1 Elf Soldier token named Richard
+0 Exile all cards from Universe Beyond sets or with mana cost WURBG from the battlefield.
-5 Create an emblem that says "Players cannot play cards from Universe Beyond sets, or cards with mana cost WURBG."
(3)
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>>97236004
I don't need your permission, faggot.
Tribal, Tribal, Tribal, Tribal.
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>>97236037
Now I want to have stax cards banning certain sets. Although, hard stax on legendaries would be enough, I guess. Legendaries are the cancer or UB.
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>>97235983
Caesar.
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>>97235962
Some of them are cool and they've gotten a bit of support here and there over the years.
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>>97235600
Why is the treasure a green elf
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Its tribble
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>>97235962
Rats are smart, cute, social animals that make good pets.
They're also a good tribe in mtg
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Which is better in the Zone?
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>>97236115
Through my play testing with both as alternate commanders Gonti draws less hate.
Gonti's any mana clause is better as well other than having to rely on treasures to cast spells you steal that aren't black
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>>97236115
the prics has dropped, but, i am 1000% sure the d.e.i. sheeboon menace of the shitwave infecting the art is intentional just to jack the price on actual nice glas like Rev that dont hurt the eyes
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>>97236115
>right
death touch means people are less likely to block
you get a treasure to spend on anything

>left
better if you have multiple creatures with evasion already, but not as common in black as other colors
also benefits opponents
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>>97236142
>but not as common in black as other colors
Black has a massive shit ton of shadow creatures
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>>97236140
This is mental illness.
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>>97236140
Meds.

Now.
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>>97236115
>Person playing massive life gain deck
>Another playing Krenko
>While I'm playing Gonti
>Krenko player basically kills the life gain player through mill by stealing his entire library
Funny shit. I then lost, but still.
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>>97236155
get fucked.
- is your arguement is that the art for Rev is unflattering to women ?
- or a sheeboon shitskin would see more and demand a higher price ?
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>>97235938
Very based anon. It's my favorite quest line too, gonna print a few Zanik proxies to slide over the real cards for my goblin deck. She's best girl.
What would pic rel work for?
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>>97236169
Dont make me call you an esl
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>>97236169
I don't argue with schizo, there's no point
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>>97236169
I argue you're just a closeted weaboo pederast arguing in bad faith trying to make up a loaded question that isn't as scrawny as your genitals.
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>>97236175
>>97236194
>>97236240
so no debate or argument ?
- just attacks !?
truth always stands tall
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>>97236262
You took a post about a simple question about mechanics and which of two similar commanders to go off about sheboons.
You are as deranged and mentally ill as the woke mob, or trannies or whatever the fuck else you despise.
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>>97236275
good post.
"we" dont need another 'discussion' or derailment about how the art has been suffering or not catering to consumers and gooners who are fatigued.
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>>97235919
Boring
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>>97235870
I could flash this back for 2 with this commander, right?
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>>97236328
sure
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>>97236311
Not really. Curious what you find to be not boring.
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>>97236311
>11
pro : tribal like the tq
con : is not toooo 'fire' / do thing draw a card
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>>97236328
Yes.Technically, if we format the after the spell effect , It would be
Father to son, 1W
Sorcery
Yadayada
Flashback: 1W
Flashback 4WWW
You can pay either or.
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>>97236336
Decks where you're not just playing solitaire goodstuff pile fishing/tutoring for your finisher like this:
>generic ramp/draw/removal/counter spells with some finisher maybe like Expropriate
Spellslinging is boring.
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>>97236360
>solitaire
Projection. Theres nothing stopping it from running removal spells and interaction. What the fuck ISNT solitaire by your standards
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