Threat Null editionaaah I'm being re-conditiooooned sub-edition>Previous>>97250318>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionHave you ever used the big bad spiritual space Technocrats in your chronicle? Do you think it is an idea with further potential to be mined for Mage5
>>97258877>Threat Null No such thing, citizen.
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What created/creates Bane Mummies & how do they continue to be a threat to real Mummies? I feel like Mummies dobt have enough organization or opposition
>>97259169Honestly there should be more Mummy/Werewolf crossover stuff because they fight the same enemies and believe roughly the same things but it's Set's fault we can't have nice things.
Did they ever make an STV 2e Mekhet clanbook? I swear one exists but I can't find it on my computer.
>>97258877>Nutted but she keeps sucking
>>97259169Unique sorcery performed by Set with Apophis pieces.
>Get in the chair, Kin boy.
>>97259169Set created the first big name Bane Mummies. They're mummies, but full of Wyrmshit! This makes them stronger but also borderline nonfunctional because they're all crazy weirdos and gross. At some point someone found a way to create lesser Bane Mummies. By default they only have 4 respawns but can get more by devouring the organs of real mummies, which I think may be one of the few ways to genuinely permakill a moomer. There's also a knock-off of the knock-off where some Setites shoved a bane inside a corpse via a Sorcery path. They're like Bane Zombies more than anything else.
>>97259183Ah, nvm this one, found it. Strange Shades. It's in the Chinese Mega.
>>97258877>Have you ever used the big bad spiritual space Technocrats in your chronicle? Do you think it is an idea with further potential to be mined for Mage5So far anything 5th Edition touched turned worse.V5 was tolerable but shit. H5 and W5 are so down the sewege that Nosferatu wants them to pay rent.>>97259169Set did but regretted it because instead of being loyal to him, they drank the crazy Apophis juice.
My collection of the hombrew Legacies from the OP forums is at 40-something and counting, but I gotta share how hilarious it is that so far we're at zero for traditional Necromancer legacies: no corpse raising, ghost binding, nothing. Closest thing is a couple doctor Frankenstein adjacent ones, but they are more into making Life abominations or cyborgs than zombie hordes.On the opposite end I've got at last for different flavors of alchemist/chemist Moros legacies.Kinda makes me want to actually make one myself once I'm done with this project.
>>97259182Whats that? Egyptian myth has a bunch of animal headed gods just like the Fera from werewolf? Lets ignore that & not do anything with it! There's no way giving Mummies even more connections to the Silent Stiders or anything like that would be interesting!
I mean isn't that where the Bastet & Mokele come into play?The Silent Striders aren't the major players but you've got the weredinos just chilling in the Nile River with the rest of the crocodiles. And I know that there is a tribe of ghouled cat wizards as well that call Egypt home.
>>97259291>Yooo what if I made mummies but with wyrm juice? Man I'm like... crazy smart yo.>What do you mean they're more loyal to the wyrm than they are to me?!Set... wasn't the brightest bulb was he?
>>97259641well he didn't wanted them to be wyrm tainted. set is the kind of infernalist who wants to use evil cosmic power for his own goal without becoming it's minion and as far as we see He himself might managed that just fine... however none of his followers living or not manage to live up to this ideal even when he was around so he keep killing them (for real there are so many cases of set killing his minions for being shit)
>>97259512They also made werewolf mummies specifically non-canon (apart from that one time) as an extra fuck you to the themes they both use.
>>97259225>Kinfolk is sterile What now?
>>97259938Death, obviously wyrm tainted if they can't produce children for Gaia.
>>97259938Get back in the silver hammering mines. Or wait, can kinfolk make talens? They could probably do it with that spirit merging sorcery some of them are learning to do.Get back to the talen grind, kin Balls-Are-Empty.
>>97259225>kin boyNah, that cuck chair is for a silver fangAlternatively, for a metis boy married to female kin
>>97259973What do you know? [Insert Pentex subsidiary] is not looking for a new employee. You WILL be emplyed.
>>97260026>not*now, the weaver is clearly gunning for that kinfolk...
>>97259637>ghouled cat wizardsThe giga inbred ones that rent the same ghoul kinfolk from Setites over and over?
>>97259225Wha-What does the chair do?>>97260013I don't think a Shadow Lord would do that to his BF.>spoiler>letting him marry>forcing him to watchAsking to get raped and murdered.
>>97259987Kinfolk that are occultists or don't work typically spend time making Talens and Fetishes yes. Probably use what little gnosis they get to communicate with spirits to bargain them into fetishes.Kinfolk also don't get deed names, I'm pretty sure.
What makes Threat Null scary?
>>97260242They're the Technocracy but without any of the good intentions or humanity.
>>97259883Werewolf Mummies sound cool but they're sort of like halfway into their own distinct archetype of creature/ fantasy. It makes sense in-lore but more as a Werewolf or Crossover supplement. White Wolf really disliked crossovers though.
>>97260242Bullshit powers that are a pain to counter and exactly 0 morals rules stoping them from abusing them like there's no tomorrow.
>>97260242For some reason, if they're allowed to communicate with Technocrats, they know all the Winter Soldier passwords programmed into everybody.
>>97260253>They're the technocracy but not deludedHuh.
>>97260242They can take advantage of the Technocrats' built in bootlicking because they were Technocracy leadership before they got stuck in the Umbra.
>>97260289Whatever you say, Nephandi
>>97260313A real Nephandi would call you a cuck first, and then complain that the voice has munchies for babies despite already being fed. I'm just calling it like it is. For the record, I prefer babies blended instead of raw.
>>97260257Vampire Mummies & Werewolf mummies would be cool as fuck, Wraith already have Risen as their own pseudo Mummy too, so it could have been a whole shared piece of lore. But yeah, if think Mummies should have gotten a sort of transformation Henkau where they get animal aspect heads & combat buffs. So they could speak a spell & boom theyve got an Eagle or Jackal head that gives them powers
>>97260343Does anyone even use the nephandi? Odds are it's just me but I don't remember the last time they had any lore that didn't sound pants on head retarded.
>>97260345Risen never really got expanded on though, and yeah I guess Mummies could really benefit from additional ability types. It's just one of those things WW kind of neglected because if it isn't selling a lot it might as well not exist. They've got basically a new perspective on the IP because they're owned by Paracucks but they don't really care about the value of the IP anymore clearly.
>>97260345Werewolf Mummies exists. Well, one at least. Because Owl hates it if it means Garou has better chances against the Wyrm.
>>97260362Nephandi are just edgy wizards who sold their soul to a demon. They're more of a background threat because they're almost always priority number 1 to kill for every faction that finds them, since they're basically insane doomers with reality warping powers. I'd say maybe Pentex would work with them until they prove too unstable? Still pretty much just background stuff.
>>97260378>This is your average Spirit's response to Garou trying to winNo wonder they keep taking losses upon losses. Then again, Garou are already half a foot into the insanity pit so dipping the entire other knee by becoming immortal would probably result in one very crazy guy.
>>97260389Pentex canonically is crawling with Nephandi yes. They're not JUST infernalists either
>>97260376You're making me do the thing again where I actually start to make a custom template for "What if Gaia had her own Spell of Life?", and that's the point where I stop thinking.
>>97260425Based high effort anon but I don't blame you. I enjoyed the DC Mummies discussion quite a lot.>>97260416Would Banes and shit not count as demons anyway?
>>97260362I do, but not as written because their first book was dumb and the M20 was retarded enough to be a cognitohazard.To me, the only Nephandi lore that is worth keeping is the whole "they go through the cawl, twist their avatar and become evil beyond redemption and even killing them isn't enough because they'll be evil on their next lifecycle too. Also Lovecraft Cthulhu shit, maybe."No "qliphotic spheres" bullshit (the Qliphoth should just be another paradigm but Satyros was too cumbrained to understand Typhonian Thelema since those books don't talk about orgies), no "all infernalism leads to nephandi" and definitely no "mammonites and baphies and cryptobros and evil Elon Musk" retardation.My Nephandi are just evil for evil's sake, they only seek to please the concept of absolute corruption and their evil goes far beyond simple greed or self-centered goals. They're the ones who see a spell that requires the skull of a jew and instead of going grave robbing like a normal person, they manipulate a rabbi to murder a kid and pin the blame on a black guy, then tell the klan about it and finally, after the race war is ignited he grabs the rabbi's skull from the morgue. They're the ones who don't just murder babies, they cook them and indoctrinate their parents into thinking it's a good idea so now they're going to have another baby so they can cook it themselves, and eventually go on to form a community of baby-eating parents.Nephandi shouldn't be "chaotic evil." They should be "retarded evil but somehow it works."
>>97260191Between all the obsession with control and having one of their camps regularly infiltrating BSD hives, Shadow Lords are probably the most degenerate gaian tribe. Cucking is likely the one of the most tame things he/she has done with the SF bf>spoiler related commentThat was the condition the sept alpha set to allow him to marry fertile kin
>>97260454And Ga*ans wonder why their kinfolk and some Garou defect. >Letting a Shadow Lord get control over you or be a sept alpha tooAsking for it. Guy will institute mandatory loyalty checks and silver cock cages, probably more for fun than for any useful reasons.
>>97260450>That entire disaster just for a jew skull, not even from the child, from the Rabbi who's soul he doomedHoly based, I'd vote for him.
>>97260191>>97260470Shadow Lords are also the only tribe that aided Red Talons to create New Impergium secretly from other Tribes. They are only reluctant to help them further because they know the shit they would be in...because of that Red Talons support Shadow Lords if they replace the Silver Fangs.
>>97260013That's an interesting thought.What happens if a female Silver Fang Kinfolk - or god forbid, a female Silver Fang Garou - gives birth to a child of Silver Fang lineage with no Pure Breed that later transforms into a Garou? Do they become a blood sacrifice for Falcon, or are they donated to another tribe, or what?
