Grin of the Grandfather edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97285934>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Opinions on the new Maggotkin now that we've got the full picture? Models or rules, whatever.
>>97295767You can include both in an army but Neferata has to be your general.
>>97295833thank you for the clarification, i thought i was going insane for a bit there
>>97295834oh sweet. lol I deleted the old post because I was gonna repost it in this threadBut now I'm wondering, if I can run Neferata and Lauka, could I also throw in a Coven Throne? Or is 950 pts of centerpiece models in a 2,000 pt list too much?
Something to fuck around with for an afternoon if you and your buddy feel bored.
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is there a decent archive for white dwarfs concerning AoS?
>>97295809Oh no they absolute can, just from a visual standpoint it's a bit goofy when 2/3 out of your hyper elite cavalry isn't even carrying a weapon
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>>97295858They made an aerial combat game in an old GHB with bespoke warscrolls for flight characteristics.
got a preference question for you guys: when it comes to damage/wounds on models, do you prefer to count down (showing their current health on a marker/dice) or going based on wounds by counting up?
>>97296013using dice or tokens to count the wounds received is more straightforward and less ambiguous to me
>>97296013Count damage up, not health down
This was nice. People will complain about the human characters but since they frequently share scenes with the seraphon they fulfill their purpose of providing points of juxtaposition for individual lizards to bounce off. When's the sylvaneth novel?
>>97296013Count up. I know MtG players default to counting down locally but counting up is my default and what the rules suggest with damage suffered brackets
Has anyone made any custom units for Blighted Wilds? I want to try making some war wagons
>>97296158There is one that features treefolk vs Beastmen.
>>97296013i usually count up
holy mouldline I thought this shit was uncommon nowadays
>>97296370That's a crazy moldline. I don't think I've seen one that big outside of a really old kit.
Sunday preview goes up in a few minutes. Any hopes for AoS stuff?
>>97296418it's going to be the third red corsair character
>Next week on Warhammer Community we’ll be revealing two new Commemorative Series miniatures for store anniversaries in 2026time for another lame vampire to stop plaguing the rumor engines
>>97296277>war wagonsDo share if you ever get around to it, I've been toying with the idea of kitbashing a CoS themed wagon>>97296370They're usually better at hiding them nowadays but damn that's fucking dire on a new kit>>97296520Inb4 it's the spider
>>97296643They wouldn't dare making an incarnate elemental a limited model
>>97296418They seem to be intent on making Spearhead for 40k looking at the additions to Boarding Actions. In all reality though the first week was always going to be the 500 Worlds.
>>97296520>vampireLet's hope not. It's not been that long since the WH+ model was unveiled.
>>97296726You vill buy ze limited edition undead
>>97295856You could, I think the only model from that list worth taking is Lauka and she wouldn't even be able to buff any of the others. Coven throne is good if you're stacking like... Trueblades or Blood Knights. Nef is fine but I still think Mannfred out Mortarchs her.Other week I fought a guy running Neff, and Lauka, my list mind you probably made it a bit harder for them to really.... do anything... But still.
>>97296520>>Next week on Warhammer Community we’ll be revealing two new Commemorative Series miniatures for store anniversaries in 2026Are these the WH+ models, the standard slightly more expensive models, or something like that fuckass Othar Half King fuck where there's like 8 spread around to some random country and you'll never find one.
I played a game of AoS with a buddy of mine and I may get into it after all. Do I pick up the spearhead for wood elves or the dark elves
I sorta miss the metawatch interview videos that used to get posted on WarCom. It was nice to hear the designers take 20-30 minutes to explain their rationale behind changes to the game.
>>97296812Good bit
>>97296812i'm guessing you mean Daughters of Khaine or Sylvaneth since those are probably the closest I can think of to match what you're saying. I'd probably say Sylvaneth, realistically you can get the spearhead and decide if you wanna go whole hog on the army. It's more elite so you'll generally be able to get more for less. DoK I haven't played but played against numerous times, I hate them but mostly because they're pretty strong if you know what you're doing.
>>97296882Yeah, I meant those. I'm not used to GW's not-"High Elves" not-"Dark Elves" not-"Wood Elves" thing for AoS.>I'd probably say Sylvaneth, realistically you can get the spearhead and decide if you wanna go whole hog on the army. It's more elite so you'll generally be able to get more for less.I'm leaning more to Sylvaneth, but I'll check out some videos on how both factions play since I like their aesthetics.>DoK I haven't played but played against numerous times, I hate them but mostly because they're pretty strong if you know what you're doing.I have heard from my buddy that they're kinda annoying to play against
>>97296767>OBR not on the listWell, well, well
>>97296929>I have heard from my buddy that they're kinda annoying to play againstMorathi is a unit that breaks a central rule of the game and I despise her. (Mind you, I main death armys and unless I'm spamming catapults with OBR I'm more than likely not going to be able to chip Morathi down before she blends up my forces) on top of the snakes being annoying to deal and they pass out strike last.DoK is pretty straight forward in how they play, you're made of paper so you make sure you hit first and kill them before they kill you. Sylvaneth seem to have a bit more going on, but admitedly you could just get Alarielle (who can self resurrect on death) and a bunch of treelords to beat the ever-loving shit out of your opponent.
>>97296653It's getting recycled as an obscure base decoration somewhere and you know it
>>97296950Damn, that sounds pretty rad, now I'm definitely on the side of DoK lmao. A fast ball of death sounds very fun to me. I'm gonna cop the DoK spearhead next time I pass by my LGS
You guys think gw would consider releasing spearhead rules without accompanying boxes? I know they're kind of already doing it with army sets and spearheads with former boxes, but you know what I mean. I feel like it could help out some kits if they were able to be used in spearhead like that.
>>97297181>You guys think gw would consider releasing spearhead rules without accompanying boxes?nothe point is making you buy the boxes, not giving you other ways to play with your existing models
>>97296936Ossifector was one of those models they made into a real thing
>>97297265I wish gw allowed their nighthaunt and ossiarchs to get freakier bodies like this. Especially ossiarch should be adaptable, perfectly suites for their task, barely humanoid. They play around with it a little but has more potential imo. They finally started doing this with necrons in 40k after multiple decades (destroyers excepted) so maybe we'll see some fun stuff.
>>97297265Literally just a boneshaper test sculpt.
>>97297383Yeh that's what majority of promo models are. Unused test sculpts
>>97297385promo and pity heroes and underworlds bands
>>97297181They’ve done it for Combat Patrol but they kind of fucked it so hard I don’t think they’ve done it in a while since. Spearhead is currently a big selling point of getting into AoS, I think they wanna preserve the experience of “Buy one box and that’s you list,” for newcomers.
>>97297181Didn't they do it with Gitmob?
>>97297308true. even katakros has multiple different bodies to choose from in lore.
What is a faction that work without huge centerpiece models?My ogres seem dogshit this edition and I plan to migrate them back to TOW where they originated because I know for sure I will hate the refresh
>>97297498he looks egomaniacal enough that the other bodies aren't about functionality but just slightly different styles and moods
>>97297498I thought it's more about him having a wardrobe full of the same shell to wear whenever the last one gets damaged.
>>97297508>My ogres seem dogshit this edition and I plan to migrate them back to TOW where they originated because I know for sure I will hate the refreshwelcome home. I bought 2 of the old ogre spearheads and ordered square bases off ebay for cheap. That's my next project, and the nice thing is the base sizes are the same as in 8th edition so you can use the ogres for older editions of Fantasy too.
>>97297508>I will hate the refreshI will hate them if they are mudcore.
>>97297538After seeing the new 40k models for the new campaign. Any faith I had in GW designers to show restraint and taste has evaporated.
>>97297465Huh, I guess you're right, since the spearhead has the underworlds guys. Still, it's like 4/5 of the army set so I'm counting it as one of those 'exceptions'
>>97297508>2 answer>no one answered lmaoAnyway Slaanesh works if you dont consider sigval "huge"He is not that big and contrary to the other chaos mortals lords (like mighty lord of khorne) he and his army arent dogshit
>>97297633Glutos is a centerpiece aint he?
>>97297508Without ANY huge centerpiece is hard if not literally impossible, fyreslayers are probably the only faction without a 130mm bigass model aside from maybe Slaanesh and Tzeentch. (though they both have centerpieces, and technically I'd still call the magmadroth a centerpiece)
>>97297646Right now can play without it.but yeah maybe aos isnt the game for you if you dont like centerpiece modelsOne of the few things it's better in 40k
>>97297661I'm fine with it in most cases, having a big cool model can be nice and generally gives a solid target. Truth be told I also enjoy how you could just play all bigass stupid models or have the most hordey of all hordes army and it still works. Instead of Ushorann you could you could effectively have 80 ghouls if not even more and that's viable. (You'd just have to buy and paint 80 ghouls)I enjoy that you can generally have a monster mash list or just a billion piddly little shitters to flood the field and both are perfectly fine and workable armys.
>>97297508Gloomspite and kruleboyz can both run without anything much bigger than a 100mm base model, in so much as either of those armies actually functions
Chamon fluff.
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>try to find shit secondhand>90% of offers are just online stores selling brand new boxes (often at gw prices)Oh fuck off
>>97297265I remember someone saying this was accidentally revealed on WH+ but everyone said it's just a regular Boneshaper with the head fingers backwards by mistake
>>97297923>IT'S NOT HALLOWEEN YET YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES
Who are the Deldar of AoS?From what ive seen the Idoneth are the most similar but they are not BADDaughters of Khaine are dark elves but they are UGLY af
>>97296052This is the opposite of reality.Counting down let's your opponent know how much health left so they don't have to memorize 20+ armies of health stats.Counting up is some retarded left over from 1st edition bracketing charts.
>>97297964idoneth they raid to feed on the essence of others due to shit involving slaaneshthey live in their own secluded and isolated placesthey have jetbikes/flying fish
>>97297966>Counting down let's your opponent know how much health leftdo you place a token with the total health even on models that have received no wounds yet?
>>97298066>squadWe use "contagium" here.
>>97298025nta but for people who like to count down i think they only put markers down after a model is woundedat least i fucking hope so because the idea of giving one health marker to each model in a unit of 20 chaff is funny to me
>>97297508"huge" centerpieces aren't necessary for gits or skaven, you just have to commit to painting like 40-60 more models.
Grotbag soon
>>97298124they should look piratical, not sci fi
>>97297711>Greyfyrd working pro bonoThis is how you know shit has gotten real.
Heh.
>>97298142The only thing we know about them is they stole KO stuff
>>97298142>scifi Stormcast have magazines so a clip is lower tech
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>>97298374Grungni will be downgrading them to only use bows.
>>97298225Me putting a small Mario gacha toy on top of the tallest one
>>97298381They need to send these dudes to Legends, sideways crossbows are so fucking stupid.
>>97297696>>97297701>>97297708>>97297711This is the only map of Chamon I need!
>>97298667Nice.
>>97296370damn that looks more like a mold slip than a mold line, that's awful
>>97296767I really regret not buying top left when I saw her
Damn priming nearly 40 skeletons really empties out the spray can lmal
>>97298524You have autism and not the tolerable kind
>watching some random painting videos>see some hour longer tutorial about painting a clanrat>dude uses like 20 different colors and says he spent like 4 hours doing extra shading and edge highlighting on a single fucking clanratyoutube painters are funny man
>>97299151I'll never forget watching some Vince video where he was going over basing I think for his slaanesh and his solution to having bright coloured cobbstones on his dark base was to wet blend each one individually from Paynes gray to white across the entire armies bases. I think a lot of the tuber painters pick schemes that not only don't make sense for an army painter, but barely make sense for themselves to do for even one video
>>97299212like i get going all out of big fancy models or even some of the elites, like im gonna take time on my stormfiends, but just like clanrats in the actual army the deserve the minimum and low effort, i aint spending 4 hours on 1 out of 80 fucking rats
>>97296767I love that Othar is the model equivalent to a cryptid and therefore has no official high-quality photo
>>97299151>>97299212They have to do dumb shit like that because the market is saturated. If you're not re-inventing and overcomplicating the most basic shit, nobody is going to watch your video. They want groundbreaking content 24/7 even if it's using Ulthuan Grey instead of Ulthuan Grey with a dot of White Scar.
>>97299227Yeah I think It's something people who not only don't army paint, but also never really have either. The tubers will do stuff like that because every "army" they're starting is one fomo box of whatever is up for pre-order next month and then never gets expanded
>>97299227there is a skill to picking efficient paint schemes you definitely dont have to compromise and make a horde of clan rats look like shitbut doing non metallic metal or something on them is dumb as fk
>>97299212To be fair to Vince, Slaanesh is his darling army so a stupid amount of effort isn’t unexpected from him.
>>97299151>>97299252Shit like that is so funny to me>here's how to quickly paint your rubrics so it ONLY takes 20 hours
I've been living under a rock and just found out that they finally brought chorfs into age of sigmar. What are your takes on the Helsmiths of Hashut? Model line seems like a bit of a mixed bag, but it's nice to see my favorite faction get some recognition.
>>97299540>seen tons of videos of people talking about how impossible and annoying chaos trim is>none of them just base the thing in the trim color then paint the other parts
>>97299656Yep, thats how I painted my Rubric marines lol
>>97296013Counting down so you know how many sounds something has left. If you have 5 wounds allocated to a hero, how close until it dies? Unless you know it's wounds it's hard to know. Counting down means you know what the 5 wounds means, are they 1 wound away from death or 20?
>>97296950How can you not love Morathi?>>97297002Based
>>97299802>what is asking your opponentYou count up because the rules are made for that. Counting down is for 40k and is inherit garbage because of that fact.
>>97299255That's just cope, they all have armies, some of which you can them watch them paint through their videos
>>97299813It's pretty annoying to keep asking them.Counting up has no advantage
>>97298950ok what the shit I also ran out of primer halfway through my Deathrattle Spearhead today.How many people are starting skeletons in 2026?
>>97299842God forbid you have to talk during a game, right? It's a social game, anon, and asking questions is part of a conversation. Or you play a good army and kill the hero so fast it doesn't matter.
>>97299864I talk heaps, but that's something that can be simplified so you talk about more funds stuff like Predator or the footy rather than how many wounds a model has left
>>97299815>tuber defense force is hereAlright buddy show the class your playable full NMM + freehanded knitted cloak rat army with wet blended bases and OSL and then we'll all give you a little bum pat for doing something nobody bothers doing or thinks is worth it
picked up some lizards to go with my skaven along with the jade fire box for cheap, heres hoping i can actually get my friends to try out table top shit now
>>97299938Excited for you anon
>>97299884I don't even know what you're saying. I'm not a YouTuber. You can just go online and see they have armies though. Like, thats what YouTube is. It's cope to say they don't paint armies when their job is doing that on camera.
>>97300024The majority of painting YouTube aren't Vince. Most of them are making videos titled "painting my new X army!!1", and then paint 3 minis from the box
>>97298124Get in line buddy
youtubers aside, i think spending a lot of time on individual models (even chaff like clanrats or gitz) is fine if the person enjoys paintingit only becomes a problem if the person wants to play the game and is in an eternal hell where they'll never have an army finishedt. skavenfag who likes spending 3 hours on individual clanrats
>>97300096I treat clanrats the way they get treated by other skaven, given the bare minimum and treated poorly
>>97300070Idk man the ones I see are squidmar who has a dozen videos painting 2k points in 24 hours, miniac who took forever but did an entire army over like a year on camera, zumitiko who did multiple on camera, Vince who we already mentioned... I guess I'm not being shown the literal whos, but it just strikes me as cope to say YouTubers don't know army painting.
>>97300096personally I wouldn't mind just assembling and playing with unpainted models while slowly working my way through them except a bunch of the units I have are more complicated and if I don't paint them in sub assembly, I'm going to make life that much harder for myself. Hoping once my air brush comes in I'll be able to speed up the process.
>>97300160Blue-Tac 'em if you wanna play. It works well enough unless you're manhandling your shit. I did it with some 40k stuff awhile back and it worked well. But now I play Ogors so my army is only held back by how lazy I am.
>>97297923>coolest faction>lamest battletomeit sucks especially hard when the other death battletomes have so much flavor in contrast. its like they really wanted both the player and the opponent to not have any fun.
>>97299806My main army is FEC, take a fuckin' guess why I wouldn't like Morathi.
>>97300096I've had to come to terms with putting in a few less spot checks for infantry if I know it's gonna be 20 to 40+ of the same model. I made this fucking mistake when I got the old Start Collecting Skaven box and tried to make each and every plague monk unique. I figure there are times I'll want to put the effort in and times when I'm painting 40 deathrattles and I'd rather just get it done and have them look good enough.
>>97300238Man that's a cool scheme for nighthaunt.
>>97300242Well I don't like that damn horse endless spell so let's call it even
>>97299806>how can I not love the worst written character in warhammer>whose very existence is just writer fiat>who ruined basically both settings with her retardation but nobody does anything about itgee I wonder why.
>>97300335Who are you talking about?Morathi is the objectively best character so can't be her
i fucking hate the Togas, and lack of bareheads in the new Nurgle kits.Im glad that shits all sold out in my country so I didnt fall for the FOMO.
>>97300435why do you need a product you don't like to be sold out to not buy it? it's not even a limited time product, where's the fear of missing out here?
>>97300408>embrace strength>castrate men because she's afraid they can get stronger than her
>>97300435>>97300449I'm also confused. How the fuck would you get fomo'd by a sculpt you don't like?
>>97300458She doesn't castrate them, just practices a little cheeky femdom
>>97300483and castration
>>97300449>>97300473You know where you like it at first, but really grow to hate certain aspects of it after a few more days. Basically needing to scrounge heads from plague marines or old blightkings to have bare heads on them.Still bought the Rotswords though, because they're great.
>>97300678Mhm, I see. I feel like when this happens to me it's usually in the opposite direction. I don't think there's been many times where my opinion changed for the worse. Maybe some of the new stormcast thingies, but even then it's relatively minor.
>>97295858Grotbag Soon™
>>97296793Store anniversary models are just more expensive commemorative models for like a year and then it's a coinflip on whether it becomes available on their website after
>>97297508None this is the huge centerpiece game now. If you don't want that, or special characters being mandatory, you need to get out of the mainline games (or just GW in general)
>>97296520I'm assuming one will be a skaven I'm surprised we didn't get a ton of those when 4th released
>>97297745Are you on eBay? Because only the most retarded sell at GW price it's almost all with the discount
I am once again requesting Realmgate Wars volume 2
Mario Kart type shit
>>97300836you got one
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>>97299310For someone so big on Slaanesh you'd think he'd strive for similar perfection irl, this guy could easily get a hair system, get non-incel glasses and chad out but he just refuses for some ungodly reason
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>>97300854I don't like the rat on his head
>>97300854>>97300872Nvm I'm retarded that's his pauldron
Guys I’m kind of at a loss for how to paint this dude. I really love the sculpt and the box art is cool but idk I’m just not feeling it. I think I should paint something else for nowBeen playing a lot of TWW3 so I might print some chaos warriors and paint them as nurglites. There bound to be something out there
>>97300847gofile io/d/qt9Ukni threw in the others if you need them as well. better safe than sorry
>>97300906Wash the gold with something and it will feel right
>>97300984Thanks anon! I'm going Soulblight for the new year and I gotta have Neferata in there.
>>97300853Thank you mr white dwarf poster
Slapchop?More like Slopchop!Gottem.
>>97301274At what point did people replacing painting with a brush and paints over airbrushing shades or using a oil wash? it feels like creatively the hobby reached a dead end last year.
>>97301312>Why thin your paints when you can add cornstarch and get that shit THICC instead
>>97301328>breaded paintAn interesting technique to be sure
>>97301312I mean the execution leaves a bit to be desired but the idea behind this is really fucking cool
>>97301366Robs been eating paint for years and its done him the world of good, name another Goblinoid so tall!
>>97301382Is this like an eceleb thing because that sentence makes no sense to me whatsoever
Which one
>>97301415moonman
>>97301312Grim.
>>97301415Rat BR was the same as Carrion Empire
>>97296520and there it is
>>97301538its almost impressive how FEC basically became the Neo Vampire Counts and nobody gives a fuck about Soulblight Gravelords.
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>>97301538>SBGL againThat caveat aside, on its own merits it's a nice-looking model.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eekdls2v/celebrate-store-anniversaries-in-2026-with-an-aeldari-autarch-and-a-vampire-lord/
>>97301538Its so odd that Flesh Eater Courts became the default vampires in AoS and Soublight feels like "Shit that doesn't fit in Nighthaunt" huh?
>yet another vampire lordOkay, this is turning into the primsris lieutenant of aos, this shits getting out of hand
>>97301542vampires were always parasites that were holding down the potential of all other undead, ghouls are better since distancing from them, ghosts are better since distancing from them, mummies were instantly better by distancing from them, skeletons and zombies are begging and praying to get enough options to be effectively independent as well.
>>97301538So Mannfred on foot?>>97301546>a double-sided 44”x30” neoprene gaming mat – perfect for games of Combat Patrol or small games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.Odd, they don't say spearhead also, why do these mats have a little Warhammer symbol in the corner?
>>97301538What is their obsession with making so many goddamn vamp lords and not just selling them normally
>>97301538Somehow he looks Ironjaw coded.
>>97301538Goddamnit why does he have to be bald!? Fuck off and give my vampy boys some nice hair GW!Also there's more shades of red than 'Crimson', damn hack writers.>>97301553I think you might be looking at it a bit backwards, remember all the Undead in AoS (bonerapers aside) were splinter-offs from the Vampire Counts, so I'd say it's mostly a matter of them having been robbed of many units and not been a priority for expansion unlike the splinters.
>>97301570They don't have the spearhead diases so they actually don't work very well for spearhead at all, but printing the diases on there would fuck with the 40k crowd who always gets preferential treatment over aos, even though absolutely nobody plays combat patrol
>>97301575I assume he's a foot version of the balde head option from the horse kit
>>97301577>looking at it backwardsNigga name me a single vampire in AoS thats had as much lore and name dropping as Ushoran. Its been a fuckin' decade mate Vampires are just the new Beastmen existing as background colour for the real main character factions of death.
>>97301577>nice hairgood luck
>>97301596Radukar
>>97301596vore dry?
>Korthrain, the Crimson BladeYou dumbasses, he's clearly a vampire, not a blade
>>97301617that's the name of the sword, the baldie is just showcasing it
>>97301625The sword is clearly not colored crimson.
>>97301596>a single vampire in AoS thats had as much lore and name dropping as UshoranNeferata and Manfredd?
>>97301630the product doesn't come pre painted
>>97301617You can paint him as a Blade
>>97301617Ahh, so all those rumour engines for this irrelevant shit...
>>97301538So they're refreshing the Mortarchs and this is the test assets for Mannfred
>>97301688They make a new hairless vampire every 5 minuts. This one doesn't even look that much like Man
>>97301688Just like all the underworlds warbands were tests
>>97301701Mannfred is a bland bald guy with free arms The commemorative model is a bland bald guy with free arms
>>97301680wait until you find out all remaining rumor engines are for the same one model
>>97301725>Mannfred is a bald guyWRONG
>>97301688no, it was a leftover from the soulblight wave that they decided would sell better as a limited sculptor rather, they realised that if they sold it normally then the female one would stop selling immediately and forever
I guess it's kind of amusing that Mannfred's silly tank top armor has made him more of a fashion icon than Neferata with her plate bustier and ginormous hat. Duvalle, Gorath, and this Korthrain guy all wear some variation of it. He's legitimately a trendsetter.
>>97301743Yeh it would stop selling forever because when GW makes another model of the same thing they stop making the previous one. Retard
>>97301725I'm starting to think that this model started out as mannfredd since they both have bold Vampire in armour, even the sword is somewhat similar.
>>97301737if you manage to dig through your bits box and assemble this guy from spare parts mid game, you automatically win
>>97301786I had something like that once: high elf spearman body, old chaos knights arms, a cold one's head, a space marine bolter at the side, some fur mantle flowing behind and riding on top of a coin with greenstuff lazily slapped onto it to look like flames/tentacles of a disc of tzeentchmaybe I still have him somewhere
>>97301538I wish they’d release vampires more in line with the Blades of the Hollow King. I feel like the more common Vampire fantasy people have is the elegant and “sexy” look. The AoS Vampires largely have such a strange aesthetic.
>>97301810GW is trying to make their Vampires more distinct and not obviously VtM rip-offs would like some more Necrach based models though
>>97301755The sword is completely different
I know it's probably because of TWW but I expected Stegadon to be bigger
>>97301755Getting boss baby vibes
>>97301755how many kragnos schizoid delusions do you need?
>>97301846I feel like the Nulahmia look fits the elegant and sexy fantasy while being uniquely AoS. Ironically enough, the model in the Blades of the Hollow King with the look isn’t actually a Vampire, he’s just a dude from Nulahmia.
>>97301858Isn’t it an old model that hasn’t been refreshed yet?
>>97301538I fucking knew it as soon as they said they were announcing two new commemorative sculpts. Seriously what the fuck is "make a vampire" the test GW gives to their intern sculptors or something? It's not a bad mini or anything but man get some new material.>>97301846Have necrarchs been mentioned in aos, especially recently? I thought they kind of got dropped in favour of avengorii and vyrkos.
>>97301915Yeah it is, still a very nice kit though,
>>97301858it was as big as the 50x100 base could have him be at the timethe size creep of bases with the introduction of the 100x150 didn't happen until 8th editionI love the beastie dearly, but I want gw to address it and replace it with a monster that rivals the carnosauralso so that the kit can go back to tow, whenever gw allows it to welcome the old kits of the legacy factions in the fold
>>97301920>Have necrarchs been mentioned in aos,They're the vampires of hysh apparently
>>97301930I think Skinks and Temple Guard are first in line for a refresh honestly but I'd be really happy if they did Stegadon as well.
>>97301810>The AoS Vampires largely have such a strange aesthetic.They do seem to be fans of Nosferatu.
>>97301847That's more evidence of continuity if anything
I should be on the autistic bingo card because I will never stop arguing that Spirit Hosts should be in every LoN successor army
>>97301930>>97295856What is up with 8th edition and dogshit miniatures?Was there any good minis released in 8th ed?
>>97301984not including spirit hosts is ironic
>>97301631>histories greatest losers who do nothingwow.
>>97302022>Was there any good minis released in 8th ed?plenty, but the bad were bigger than the good onesexcept the aracnarok, that one was good and big
>>97300854Is it just a random leader or is it supposed to be queek headtaker?
>>97298124love those!
>>97301984Its like not having daemon princes in every chaos army. Shit dont make sense.
>>97297966This, counting down is objectively better
>>97302040Just a random leader, Queek is super dead.
>>97302040random leader, not every skaven lord clad in red is queekqueek died in the end times
>>97302022It was very much the big impractical centerpiece edition. Anything good gets drowned out by all the models that are huge heaps of random bullshit.
>>97302061Ah, I don't know too much about the end times aside from it pissed everyone off, and there's still random fucking character from fantasy that survived it
>>97302022>Bloodthirster >Verminlord, Stormfiends, Thanquol>Glottkin, Blightkings, Maggoth Lords, Gutrot Spume >Spirit Hosts >Dispossessed kits >Witch Elves (yeah, the guy burning his delf army was just a 8th ed tourist whose army wasn't two years old ironically)>Carnosaur, bastiladon>Hurricanum, Griffon, demigryph knights >Zombie Dragon >Modern TK plastics >Arachnarok
>>97302074SOVL
>>97302073he had an actual on screen death, gg no reshe could be brought back as a verminlord, if one had to force it
>>97302022The carnosaur is gw's greatest fantasy mini and was released in 8th edition. Tomb guard are one of my favourites too.https://eefl.freeforums.net/thread/1622/games-workshop-fantasy-releases-timelineTheHonestly going through this list they were fucking firing out these big releases. Anyone saying gw neglectee fantasy during this time is clearly lying, it's a sizeable update every other month, even prior to the end times in 2014.
>>97302121Is thanquol the only named leader that survived end times?
>>97297508stormcast generally dont use their big centerpiece models
>>97302111How did the maggoth dudes fare in the new tome?
>>97302143define survive
>>97302165He exists post end times
>>97302143if we're talking special character models, it's just thanquol and the verminking
I choose to believe Skrolk racked up enough goodboy points in Lustria to be bestowed the gift of immortality and now plagues the realms as Skrolok Lifebane. Nobody on Team Rat worked as hard as him in the End Times.
>>97302128>>97302074Honestly some legendary kits, but lot of trash alsoNew witch elves and 8th edition skaven are trash tho
>>97302210>Nobody on Team Rat worked as hard as him in the End Times.Slander on my boy zingetail.
>>97302210What good boy points? He jobs to Kroq-Gar and gets saved by a verminlord. He sucks
>>97302234>tfw lord gar is just kroq gar but with even more magitech prosthetics
>>97302225Actually it was all thanquol, he did everything and is the most powerful wise smart grey seer yes yes
>>97302265Skaven larping is peak faggotry
I feel like lizardmen need more actual lizardmen models. Them being just three races of lizards for 50 years, and even then barely any variance within, is pretty meh
>>97302273Then why aren't you doing it?
>>97302257Sigmar sucks for having genocide remorse. Bring back the true OG Genocide king.
>>97301538>>97301544That's like 2 rumor engines solved.
>>97302276what lizard do you want?
>>97302276Chameleon Skinks, Kroxigor Warspawn, Saurus Sunbloods, All the new big dinos?
>>97302276You cannot overdo the types of lizards they take features from because it is important for the army to have a clear distinction between wild animals and the lizardmen themselves, the moment you start blurring the lines with lizardmen that have the same specific features as some of the animals they use, you stop having lizardmen with dinos and start having something closer to kroot and tyranids where you're implying the creatures are all closely related and with little true separation
>>97302332I really hope we get a Chameleon hero and some cav. I hate regular skinks but chameleons are kino
>>97302276>>97302377I agree with the other guy, but more subspecies (a la chameleons or regular vs warspawned) would be cool
>>97301538I hate, hate, hate the hyper angular obsession GW has on some of their armoursLike FFS spend 30 seconds looking up what real armour looked likeNo one's asking for historicals, but a thing should look like what it is before you add all the fantasy wank
>>97302530Agreed, looks like it's a low poly model from a PS2 game lmao
>>97302530I’m surprised they haven’t tried simply making a pristine version of the Deathrattle armor but for a Vampire character
>>97301968Has anyone converted these to not look shit? The mounts look awful
>>97302614Nah no one's ever done a soulblight conversion ever
>>97302614There's no saving they cartoony shit
>>97302614
>>97302530this, but for rounded michelin man space marine armor.
>>97302712Why not just use a vamp lord on dragon at that point, the base is way too small for that
>>97302530its a fantasy game, retard
>>97302530No. Fuck realism.
>>97302736>>97302746You can have "realistic" armor without going fully stupid >>97301847And it's not like the armor is stupid for a reason, it's being presented the same way it's just worse
>>97302800>You can have "realistic" armor its a fantasy gameyou retard
It’s probably the same dude that whines about IDK armor every chance he gets.
>>97302854No, no, that's me, I don't mind the vampires armours, I understand why gw is going for stylistic identity over other stuff, but I will always hate it when they cheap out on full armors for sculpting convenience like they did with idoneth models
>>97300870Honestly, he's probably just hung and doesn't care. Working out and looking nice to get conventional attractive partners fucking blows compared to being fugly and keeping a BBW on retainer in between paint sessions as long as you dont care about optics.
>>97302895Even if you don't like IDK at least it can be somewhat handwaved with them needing to be more mobile underwater. Vamps are just, naked
>>97302895My bad, dawg. I’ll own up to the fuckup.
>>97300870Vince works in banking, and he makes a good chunk doing it. I think he is very comfortable liking the things he does, and doing the stuff he does. He's got his dogs, his wife, his models, and dozens of human being sized posters of serra angel from mtg. I don't know that he wants or needs anymore than that
>>97301312The execution is fucking ass, but damn do those colours and their placement look nice laid out like that
>>97302530Edges of bat wings are depicted as triangular so vampires have armor made of tiangles
Someone have that one image with all the gravelord commemorative minis? I think we're at 6 or something now?Yknow when you also factor in cursed city, black library and underworlds' crimson courts there's gotta be like ~20 aos vampire lord minis or something right?
>>97303299>there's gotta be like ~20 aos vampire lord minisLet's see>4 UW vampires jsut standing there>3 cursed city vampires jsut standing there>regular vampire just standing there>new vyrkos character jsut standing there>3 commemorative vampires just standing there12 And that's not counting>dozen Warcry vampires>2 vampire centaurs>vampires on horse (2 heads)>Baladama and big Radukar
>>97302964>more mobile underwater.hardly the point for cavalry
>>97303431Yet they refuse to make a REAL vamp infantry unit
>>97303463
>>97303486I love those guys.
>>97303431>4 underworlds guys>sekhar>cado, cado2, sissendra>ivya volga, radukar, kritza, annika>generic lord>3 commemorative onesI count 16 (lmao) "vampire on foot" models, though to be fair a few have their own warscrolls(Not counting warcry weirdos or fec mordants who are technically still vampires.)
It's a pity warcry is dead they had some great minis.
>>97303691I'm shocked underworlds outlasted it.
>>97303699Underworlds is a game that appeals for people who don't know Warhammer in general. It is similar to how Warhammer Quest gets more Boardgame players into playing it but not necessarily gets Age of Sigmar players into playing it.
>>97302377I really don't think that's an issue.Lizardmen are all bipedal lizards and as long as that remains the design there won't be any confusion on them being feral animals.
>>97303691Nah it has abortions that don't fit their respective ranges and I'll be glad to see shit like the rotmire creed inevitably squatted
>>97303833Fuck off hunters of huanchi is the greatest seraphon kit released in like a decade.
>>97303691the second season of warcry was just units that would have been released for AOS armies but were repurposed to push that dead gamethe first season of warcry minis (the chaos cults fighting each other) was really kino, its a shame AOS is too niche to support a game like thatno clue how or why underworlds is still around
>>97303850>not the kroxigors
>>97303966>not the Saurus
>>97303737Which is odd because Underworlds has felt like it's been on life support since 2e launched.
>>97302163Really?? Shit I'm honestly surprised... the infantry range does look good the right color scheme... my problem is their cavalry which look very bad imoBut still... they are the poster boys, I'm conflicted
>>97304023I mean there's lots of alternatives for customizing stormcast you can most likely get. Also lots of ways to deck them out, for the cavalry realistically you could use other models but I don't mind the dracolines as an alternative to the weird stick up it's ass dragon.
>>97303833Rotmire creed is an excellent unit which is why they put it in the new spearhead, cope and seethe
>>97303976the saurus kit is not that good
>>97304023a lot of their cavalry is old models that will get removed/replaced soon, but you can play lists with zero cavalrythe big dragons are okay if you want to play themone cool thing about playing stormcast is that they have the best community (the stormkeep) out of any AOS army, even if they do focus on tournament play they have an autistic level of analysis about stormcast
>>97303898>no clue how or why underworlds is still aroundAs one of like, 3 people in this thread who play underworlds I don't know either. My only assumption is when things were functioning GW made all these sculpts and has to get them out somehow.
>>97304087its crazy they would have that much of a backlogthat inertia should have run out like 2 years ago
>>97304107I got no clue, I'm still salty at how fucked the new releases are considering you don't even get decks of cards with warbands anymore, but if I start bitching about underworlds we'll wind up 3 paragraphs deep in a rant.
>>97303850Hunters of Huanchi are the only well designed warcry warband there is>two distinct loadouts>extra critters are a whole separate unit instead of always being mashed in>fit into their home army perfectly
>>97303986Well 2.0 removed most of people Underworld players liked, made the game boring and more generic.>>97304087Underworlds sell well, most of 1e things are sold out (even things that are being reprinted in 2e) and even scalpers on Ebay are actively selling stuff from 1e still.I guess like its name most of its players don't play it on store.
>>97304147>people=things
>>97304147You're tellin me dude, I've got my whole collection held tight. I nearly got all the 1e stuff minus the OG Darkoath gang. I'm happy to hold onto it because the content works fine, yeah there's balance issues and bloat but IT'S FUN. I've heard pray tell people are working on backporting all the new shit to work with 1e.
>Idoneth Deepkin were a WHFB army planned but scrapped when they decided on the End Times and salvaged for AoSI guess thats why Namarti thralls are all arranged to stand on squares in ranks.
What are some neat ideas for seraphon bases, I was debating on messing with the epoxy I bought and trying like temples or something similar or just like muddy jungle with water and big foliage
>>97304223same thing with fyreslayers, sylvaneth, and nighthaunt
>>97304223no, they weren't
>>97304223they don't fit on 20mm bases at all
>>97300238Lisa Frank Nighthaunt, neat.
>>97304223Not how the development process works, anon.
>>97304223>>97304232Interesting if true, sauce?
>>97304224Jungle is pretty much a damp forest with a lot of foliage so getting some exotic plants really helps. Other than that you can use some wood logs and maybe make vines from jute twine. Moss and scattered bark or leaves work too. You could incorporate some of the temple theme by adding random pieces of broken walls etc
>>97304111please put it, I want some of the models but the way they package them is just such faggot shit. Like I just want the skellies
>>97303591>>sekhar>>cado, cado2, sissendraForgot those. Checks out
>>97304334I feel your pain, I still haven't gotten Ephilim's Pandaemonium because it's practically impossible to find it being sold separately at reasonable prices. Some of the warbands did come in their own boxes, I don't get why they did this quad warband box set thing. Like okay two so you can get one box and play a game I get, but 4? Really?
>>97303591this guy is a vampire too, isn't he?
>>97303691>final box released summer 2024Probably not bouncing back, yeah.
>we never got a cardboard mat for the insides of the temple shipREEEEEEREEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEE
>>97304332I've seen some that look nice but idk if il go that crazy on them, I like experimenting with texture paints like I did for some of my 40k stuff, but I've never really used much foliage
>>97304498They wasted so much time jerking off the meat trees outside the temple ship. I really think Warcry would’ve bounced back with a map of Temple Ship ruins that features lots of vertical play.
>>97304498>>97304546So, like, 40k's boarding parties but AoS?Because I could very damn well get behind that.
>>97304603In terms of the system it doesn't have a very close analogue in 40k. Kill Team & Boarding Actions are kind of like it in a very general sense as skirmish games played with lots of terrain, but that's about as close as comparisons get.
>>97304232I recall hearing that about Fyreslayers somewhere like the origins stem from WHF or something similarly vague and thinking "oh, it's the toga wearing Grimnir worshippers from Gotrek and Felix that never got any game rep despite seeming pivotal" but I can't remember the source and it was vague enough to mean anything from the concepts of a plan to art reflected in AoS
>>97304295>broad pitch>concept art >sculpting >miniature tooling >fluff and rules come last, based on models but referencing elements of concept art (blanche or adrian smith details accompanying art) Fyreslayers could've started at any stage tbhon. AoS was notoriously haphazard with fluff coming last minute for Stormcast so it's not unexpected they would exploit a well developed pool of half finished efforts from WHFB to fuel the initial developments of the game. Fyreslayers are notorious not dynamic in the way proper AoS launch models were, so the gestures are evocative of rank and file
>>97304821slayers were in warhammer fantasy battle and were used alongside other dwarf units, and fyreslayers in AoS are essentially a hardcore focus on that concept
>>97304852No shit but the Gotrek Fyreslayers were an explicit naked Grimnir cult living in a volcano
>>97304849>>broad pitch>>concept artwhich happened after the decision to can the world was taken
>>97304872What part of Fyreslayers couldn't fit in WHF?
>>97304546I was going to shoot down the idea because warcry cannot really have as much scenery as the first box did, and without that there can't really be as much verticalityand then it hit me: the cardboard box and the cardboard mat can already cover a lot of the verticality, the plastic scenery would just be needed for scatter terrain, magic portals and a central column to support the cardboard floors
>>97304871misunderstood what you were saying, my b
>>97304876Dwarves very famously hate dragons.
>>97304876everything could hypothetically fit into the old world, even releases that will happen 5 years from now, the point is that all aos ranges were intended as aos ranges, the pitch, for all of them was "ok, we decided to end the world, make up this race from the ground up for a new world, focusing on this and this feature or theme"fyreslayers weren't a release meant for the old world and neither were idoneth
>>97304871The slayer monks in Slayer were more Bronze age warriors, with bronze ring mail togas and champions with breast plates defining musculature and purple cloaks. Lots of intricate blue tattoos. >>97304896Dwarfs always had those late roman dragon horns and are full of dragon iconography from drakeguns to clan emblems?
>>97305014>Dwarfs always had those late roman dragon horns and are full of dragon iconography from drakeguns to clan emblems?because they were dragon slayers, retard
New Festus fluff>A sorcerer-apothecary, Festus the Leechlord is a rare mortal servant of Nurgle who has ascended to daemonhood. He demonstrates his devotion to the Grandfather through the creation of vile poisons and debilitating toxins. In his mortal life, before he swore himself to darkness, Festus was a healer. He yearned to understand how to cure all illness, and this desire for knowledge, though well meant, saw him inveigled into the grasp of the Grandfather. Nnowledge did Festus receive and with it, he was damned.>Festus invented foul new maladies to blight his foes and spread the glory of Nurgle. Such was his commitment to this cankerous art that he studied under the Grandfather himself. While the need to frequently experiment with his concoctions saw him abroad in the realms, his seven thousand, seven hundred and seventy-seven year tutelage taught him much about the nature of sickness. Having been found worthy of daemonhood, Festus's abdominous form was further bloated with disease and his mind expanded with rare pathologies. Using these learnings, he mixed several cultures of bacteria to grow his riding beast, Gathoblyt.>Now Festus has begun tainting Ghyran with his leech-water plague. These parasitic worms are carried along on the currents of natural waterways. When they come across flesh, they latch on and disgorge foulness into their victims. A carrier might persist for days in gastric agony until their innards violently rupture and spew forth a slew of leeches, thus worsening any nearby infestation. When an area reaches a saturation point of parasites, usually where a river passes through a settlement, they clog the water with filth, turning it into a repulsive land bridge or noxious mire.
>>97305019Grimnir is known for slaying what in AoS?
>>97305037And some commentary from Gutrot Spume>Then there's the Leechlord. Old Festus, he's a curious one. The foul doctor has slipped his mortal flesh; he's daemonkind now, a reward for his service. Though he has his followers for certain, Festus has never been one for dominance. He has his work and that's enough. Grandfather has a plan for the doctor, of that I am sure. You mark me, not for Festus is the role of mere overlord. He's partly of the Garden now, with all the knowledge that implies. Once, I might have considered him almost my equal, and I'm sure we'll soon be peers again. Who can say what wonders he will unleash and what fresh pestilence he will wreak?
>>97305041for slaying shit, he died in the explosion of the first monster he was sent to kill
>>97304905Kharadron would probably need toned down quite a lot.
>>97303755>Lizardmen are bipedal lizardsThis is the part where I run into the symposium with a Carnosaur and yell out "behold, a slann"
>>97304434Oddly enough yes, his lore is weird too in that what he's doing is technically against Nagash's rules. (Can't bring back dead without doing it Nagash's way)
>>97305054Vulcatrix, the Ur Salamander. Magmadroths are her spawn?
>>97304050Rotmire Creed is just official releases for /mydudes/ who were already nurglite mud farmers>>97304040Vanguard palladors are beautiful minis, and they even remembered to sculpt the cocks
>>97305064not necessarily, chaos dwarfs are already shown to be way more advanced and extravagant than normal dwarfs, all you need to do to justify kharadron is giving them a similarly reasonable degree of separation and catalyst, for chaos dwarfs it was chaos juice and getting separated early on in dwarf history, for kharadron it can be sky juice and getting separated at some other point in dwarf historygive them a spot on the map nobody uses, like the indian ocean (to tie in with captain nemo too since we're at it) and they're ready to go
>>97304884Youse a smart motherfucker, you know that?
>>97305014>Dwarfs always had those late roman dragon horns and are full of dragon iconography from drakeguns to clan emblems?And never rode dragons.
>>97304884>not supplying the box with magnetic sheets and magnets under the bases to play in gravityland
>>97305037So like the leeches poop/vomit in your belly until you get so inflated with leech excrement that you explode?
>>97304224I'd check out eldar temple basing ideas and then scatter a selection of miniature plants and mosses around.
>>97305110Magmadroths aren't dragons
Can someone explain the rationale behind marked daemon princes not having bespoke warscroll in their respective Chaos faction?
>>97305133Shadow of the Demon Lord type shit
>>97305219To keep the product lines nominally separate for the sake of the nerds in accounting.
>>97305219gw is impressively retarded and is slowly and inconsistently trying to have all of the ranges completely separated from one another, which means that products that were meant to be shared by multiple factions in the past receive weird treatments if you want to play it safe, don't expect armies other than slaves to darkness to have the normal demon prince, long term
>>97305276At least until they change their minds again.
>>97305219The Slaves to Darkness unit is designed to be played in Slaves to Darkness When you buy a StD unit you don't expect it to be playable in Maggotkin of Nurgle but it is with a RoR.It's not 2nd edition where you can play a Nurgle army with only StD, BoC, and Pestilens units.
>>97305219I would complain about this except1. The demon prince model looks like shit. 2. Chaos factions can't even exist separately in 40kI don't know if they're just unpopular in 40k or GW doesn't give a shit about actually promoting the main big bad of all their settings. I'm more annoyed with the Mutalith Vortex beast not being in the tzeentch battletome despite being their in older editions. Maybe their planning a refresh for it, but I doubt it. >>97305276>gw is impressively retarded and is slowly and inconsistently trying to have all of the ranges completely separated from one anotheryou say this but as far as I can tell, most people buying HH stuff are just using it to proxy in 40k.
>>97295830>Gelgus Pust suffers from an unquenchable thirst and will chug anything within reach, but nothing sates himFeels good that he doesn't get to be as happy as that big stupid smile says he is.
>>97305420>>Gelgus Pust suffers from an unquenchable thirst and will chug anything within reach
>>97305420>>97305471Gelgus and Glutos are two peas in a pod, aren't they.
>>97305276New to AoS (or at least earnestly trying to get into it this year) Has there ever been a time where the Grand Orders could be taken together in a list and be supported unlike how 40k sometimes let you do it but it’s made intentionally weak?
>>97305507Yeah more or less. There's not so much of it in 4e, but in the first two editions there was a lot of freedom for mixing units from different armies.
I would love to have some stormcast stuff in a cities army, nevermind the other alliance stuff.
>>97305532Feels like it could really be a big selling point for AoS if they leaned into it. Like if you put a grand commander like Nagash in your list you can bring ghosts and skeletons. I imagine the logistics of it when it comes to rules writing is a nightmare and why they might be pulling back from it.
>>97305588writing rules is easy, that's not why they're limiting the cross compatibilityit's all because gw wants to track down better what sells and for what and to make the products as retard proof as possible
>>97305133I think they reproduce in there. That's how most intestinal worms work, except the exploding part doesn't happen and you get anemia instead and poop out the eggs. Seems like these things work more like tapeworms.
>>97305599The part about "disgorging foulness" makes me think they're doing more more than just reproducing in there.
>>97300077>2026>no bug or chitinous army in AoSGrim, why is the design team obsessed with mudcore now?
>>97305815Sylvaneth has quite a few bugs now
NEW THREAD>>97305876>>97305876>>97305876COME ON, EVERYNYAN!
>>97305614I think mosquitoes, leeches and ticks regurgitate the last partially digested meal when latching to a new host.
>>97304334Same, I'm considering getting the whole box and just putting up the rest for sale. But that's a hassle and postage is expensive where I am so I'd only expect to make a partial recovery for the remaining three.The only guy selling the skellies separate where I am have them priced at 3/4 of the box.
>>97306952I should just be a kike and buy sets like this take the 1/4th I want and sell the rest for 1/2 or a 1/3 the price of the full set.
