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Previous Thread: >>97304302

>Most recent bracket system update
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>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules
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>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
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TQ: If you were a card, what colors would you be based on your personality?
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Only esl shitskins care about proxies.
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Chinks make proxies
Whiteys use proxies
Glorious japs would never
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>>97311066
>TQ: If you were a card, what colors would you be based on your personality?
I would cost a hybrid izzet and a hybrid Orzhov mana
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>>97311094
>four color slop anon
gross
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>TQ
>Low energy and incredibly depressed
I'm a 0/1 black thrall token
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>>97311066
>If you were a card, what colors would you be based on your personality?
Mono red as FUCK.
And yet I don't like playing mono red
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Mono black. I'm not edgy or evil, just selfish
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What are you cheating into play?
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>>97311097
slop on my cock, anon.
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>>97311077
Them calling you poor REALLY got under your skin.
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Can't wait to go to the shop tonight
Where I will be using proxies in my deck containing proxies.
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>B/X/x
>When [you do thing] exile your opponents cards
>You may cast exiled cards blah blah

I want to beat the shit out of whoever keeps designing these cards
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>>97311097
I am an orc(ish librarian) and I eat paste
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>>97311129
I agree, why can't more theft decks be honest?
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>>97311142
Love this card in my Eggman deck
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>>97311125
>*flip binder*
>is that a gram
>new card, what do you think?
>*everyone sees proxy*
>eeeeeeewwwwwww
The End
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>>97311066
I am Izzet cancer incarnate.
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>>97311155
>Trade binder
I came to play fucking commander. Not "trade." I don't do trades.
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>>97311115
Actually I'll update this to Golgari due to my thoughts on ideal social structures and how I view the cycle of life and death
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>>97311066
>TQ: If you were a card, what colors would you be based on your personality?

Bant, Abzan and Sultai. For mono colored it would be green.
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>>97311066
>tq
Orzhov because I am a radical centrist
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I'm not even remotely done cataloging at what point does Wotc have enough money from me?
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>>97311155
Who puts proxies in their binders?
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>>97311194
Retards will see this and think "This guy SPENT 7k" rather than "this guys collection appreciated to 7k over time"

Unless you actually did pay 7k for shit. In which case the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>97311202
Coomette
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>Play with anon
>slap down my textless Bruvac
>anon shits self over proxies
>I take it out of sleeve and show it's an alter sleeve
>anon dies of embarrassment
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>>97311194
>I can just put any card into this list online like it matters
Okay?
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>>97311203
Spotted the 3rd worlder. Let me guess, UK?
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>>97311213
what the hell is an alter sleeve.
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>>97311203
I just started playing in October
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>>97311203
And you're not taking into account of packs having cards equaling less value of the pack itself, fetchlands and other old modern staples tanking hard the amount of money I've spent on this game is far far far more than 7k
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>Blue card with above-the-curve attack and no downside
By WotC's definition of hybrid cards I 100% consider this a color pie break.
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>>97311232
Fucking. Based.
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>>97311229
It's a sleeve that changes the art of the card when put over it. It's an alternate to having some guy charge 100 to alter you cards like back in the day.
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>>97311194
I kind of want to do this but I don't have the patience. It would take so long. I even cleaned out an old card catalog I had to sort cards and haven't come close to starting yet.
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>>97311234
>Packs
Who needs packs. Buy SLDs. Did you know this is like 180 dollars despite being in a 40 dollar SLD?
Literally all of the priciest cards in my collection are SLD cards.
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>>97311202
Yo.
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>>97311242
weird. are they 100 identical sleeves or 100 different sleeves?
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>>97311194
I have 2k cards "worth" 5k up 40% and I feel I don't wanna buy anything anymore. I'm going this year just by trading
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>>97311236
>if spent to cast it
Flicker bros...
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>looking forward to the -1/-1 commander deck
>loved wither ever since original Lorwyn
>see the list
>Vraska
>Scorpion God
>Hapatra
>Necroskitter
>Midnight Banshee
>Evolution Sage
>Flourishing Defenses
>Blowfly Infestation
>Everlasting Torment
>Massacre Girl, Known Killer
>Midnight Banshee
I am disappointed that it feels like they copied my deck. Seriously, it's just missing proliferate shit, like Contagion Engine, Volt Charge, Whisper of the Dross or Bloated Contaminator, and a few Amonkhet creatures like Decimator Beetle and Obelisk Spider.
For anons who like this style of decks, get Corrosive Mentor, Maha, Yawgmoth and Skithryx, they are probably going to spike.
Also, burn any Melira, Sylvok Outcast that you see. We don't want that one to get on table.
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>>97311214
>ERM you just spent hours punching cards that don't exist into a phone app to win an argument online
Speaks volumes about yourself than anything if you legitimately think I'd waste that much of my time just for (you)
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>>97311253
It's an inner sleeve you put over it and then put into a normal deck. You'd obviously need to be double sleeving to use it so it doesn't stand out in a deck.
It's basically just an inner sleeve with art printed ontop of it.
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>>97311266
Buddy I build entire decks just to post pics of on here for (You)s. I don't even play. You think I give a fuck about time?
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>>97311267
gotchya, that makes a lot more sense.
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>>97311163
>I came to play fucking commander
LMAOing at this edgelord playing his baby daycare format thinking he is tough

>me? trades? I don’t do trades… my money goes only and straight to the pockets of JOTC
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97311252
I hate gooners so much. Imagine being this much of a degenerate that you can't go 1 minute without seeing porn. If you brought that to my lgs I would destroy your binder. So trashy and disgusting. If you are over 20 years old then you are sad and pathetic.
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>>97311266
>Do you really think people would go to extremes just to lie on the internet to try and win an "argument"
First day in the internet bud?
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>>97311273
Difference is I actually somewhat value my time
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>>97311276
>my money goes only and straight to the pockets of JOTC
Anon, please follow the chain and read where it starts >>97311125
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>>97311259
>I am disappointed that it feels like they copied my deck
>a faceless corp managed to copy ny sovl? How? Unless....
Way to burn yourself man
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>>97311275
There are some that come in packs of like 25, but those are for basic lands specifically.
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>>97311284
I don't consider these porn, they're just dumb fun, but we can agree to disagree.
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>>97311296
ntsa, but there's only so many cards that care about -1/-1 counters. of course the 75+ reprints are gunna look samey.
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>>97311285
Difference is I'm white. I don't go to extreme lengths to defend izzat
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>>97311284
>if you brought this to my LGS I'd go to jail over it!!!!!!
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>>97311300
Dont worry if i saw a girl in public reading Morning Glory Milking Farm i would look down on her just the same
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This is 140 dollars in foil
And it will never be reprinted. Shit is going to be 500 dollars by 2030.
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>>97311300
>if it’s not a penis being inserted into a hole it’s not porn

Your mind has rotted and your view of the world is skewed. If it was like one or too big tiddies proxies, I would agree on being “dumb fun”. But having a binder full of it is pure mental illness.
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>>97311249
Majority of my proxies are secret lair I DO NOT respect secret lair in the slightest
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>>97311321
You sound like the type of person that caused the death of sexy women on cards. You are not any different from libs crying about sexay wimmin

>but I am crying for a DIFFERENT REASON
In a desire for an identical outcome.
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>>97311319
i get the collector value and all, but has anyone actually made/played a fourteenth doctor deck? his ability seems pretty awful.
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>>97311330
There's sexy, and then there's tacky
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>>97311300
>I don't consider these porn
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>>97311336
You just build a historic deck with a doctor theme and then steam roll by brute force because historic is a very well supported archetype.

Also something like a turn 2 Morophon is back breaking.
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>>97311321
>See a beautiful woman on a card
>Enjoy it and don't feel the need to instantly goon to it because it's not porn to you.
>This means your mind is rotten.
If you say so.
>>97311340
You are not the arbiter of that. Nor I. It's cool if you don't want to use boobie proxies.
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>>97311319
this will definitely get a universes within reprint
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>>97311300
we can agree that you're a fucking retard
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>>97311330
>the death of sexy woman’s in cards
Like I said, your brain is completely rotted. I care for artwork that fits the flavor and mechanics of a card. There are very few cases that adding a “sexy woman” improves on those qualities. If you want to appreciate sexy woman just go to your favorite porn site and have at it. Or idk, fuck a real woman or something.
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>>97311306
>I'm white!
Race is literally irrelevant to the discussion, but that just the fact you think it warranted or somehow makes it more believable just makes me trust you less.
Sure you're going to post a hand or ask me to post my hand, which if you need to waste time to prove your "whiteness" that just furthers my belief that you will waste a lot of time, to prove you aren't a "brokie"
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>>97311362
I don't see how with that typing.
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>>97311351
can you elaborate? i dont see the line.
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>>97311347
what is this even trying to convey
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>>97311351
Turn 2 morophon? Sorry but how exactly
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>>97311306
Most Izzet decks I've seen have been piloted by whites. Not sure what that has to do with anything, though.
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>>97311319
so will every mechanically unique secret lair. and people love it
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>>97311377
Tons of
>Legendaries get +1/+1
type shit. You end up with some big boys and the deck just overruns with that. It also can generate a lot of free value.
Honestly it is hard for me to explain why it works. It just somehow does.

>>97311388
>turn 1 mana dork
>turn 2 Fourteenth
>get lucky and Morophon is on the top 14
He's a doctor since he is a changeling.
Sixth Doctor is also very back breaking and can go nuts real quick.
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I want to design a deck around Toshiro specifically going for commander damage that instead of relies on equipment, just vomits out a bunch of little pump spells at once and kills someone. Trying to go for that samurai sword draw or revolver quick draw feeling of someone not feeling the looming presence of a built up board state but I get to blow my load of instants and kill someone. I think this would be funny to do in black, I know its unoptimized but if I cared then I'd go play feather. Do you think it can work or can you suggest another deck for this feel that isn't feather or shu yun?
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>>97311319
And I'll continue to not care, as my playgroup only plays with Magic cards.
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>>97311380
>what is this even trying to convey
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>>97311398
Ah i see i'm too used with morophon as commander and not as 99
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>>97311066
>TQ
Bant. I've told myself I don't have to be nice all the time, but I've tried to be mean before and it just doesn't work. It hurts me more than others. Best I can do is apathetic.
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>>97311398
I guess im just hung up on the 17 doctors all wanting to do something different. just making it off brand jodah probably makes anything work.
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>>97311389
Failed to storm? -100 izzet
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Good morning. I love universes within
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>>97311319
Maybe you should invooooost
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>>97311321
>>97311366
You seem more unhinged than the gooner.
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>>97311428
good afternoon. I love universes within and some universes beyond.
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>>97311417
It basically is off brand Jodah. You're relying on discounts and legendary buffs.
Some of the doctors are just good value though. Others are wastes.
The decks major weakness is that it is entirely open to flyers. I am not entirely sure how to patch this without a lot of changes.
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>>97311415
Based anon with an actual heart.
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>>97311433
Ok, gooner
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>>97311439
consider running this before?
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>>97311438
Good evening. I exclusively enjoy in-universe cards.
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>>97311066
>TQ
According to this dumb spreadsheet tool I made over half a decade ago, I come out as Temur.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JTpSr2cN_n6iElejhWJOF7VOOnEADFqJ9l5P_-tHldQ/edit?usp=drive_link
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>>97311464
Yeah, but a single card feels like it's not enough. It has been considered though and I really should try it. I'll have to find one in my collection.
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>>97311400
The new Azula.
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>>97311066
>TQ: If you were a card, what colors would you be based on your personality?
BG, I haven't showered in three days and I’m oddly obsessed with mushrooms.
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>>97311474
there's also sandwurm convergence, but ive never seen anyone ever run it, much less cast it.
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>>97311494
>8 mana
Yeah I can see why it isn't used as much. Though it would be harder to remove than a creature. Not by much however
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>>97311066
>TQ:
I don't know. I'm a coward that only does things other tell me to. every time I try to do anything by myself I fail. I'm truly an npc and cannot help it. tell me my color, anons
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>>97311479
Fuck she'd be perfect. Dammit. I just can't get behind buying into these collab sets, I don't want wizards to be rewarded for their cashgrab bullshit, but fuck SHES LITERALLY PERFECT FOR THIS EXACT STRATEGY
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>>97311252
BUY. A. FUCKING. AD.
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>>97311546
Cowardice is a mono blue card
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>>97311551
>buy a thing blocked by 90% of users ad blockers
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>>97311547
So make a UW proxy niggerfaggot
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>>97311547
nta but I feel you. it's like they keep making the most broken shit in UB exclusively to try and weasel their way in my decks
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>>97311563
>>97311547
and make it toshiro
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>>97311553
I do like playing blue. too many scary spells around that would instantly snowball out of control thanks to FIRE design
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>>97311213
textless bruvac is only legal as counterspell
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>>97311372
>Race is literally irrelevant to the discussion
Naive. The fact that I'm not brown means I don't value how I'm perceived to the point where I'm just going to lie or spend huge swaths of my time and effort on convincing text on this indian smoke signal clearing for Japanese culture enthusiasts on the authenticity that I'm retarded and gave Wotc litteral thousands what the fuck do I gain from from that? I could litterally dox myself in this thread and post the deed to my fucking house and you'd go UMMM SOURCE? I DONT TRUST YOU!!! BROKIE!!! YOU NEED TO SPEND MILLIONS ON THIS GAME BROKIE!!!
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I still do not understand why wotc refuses to make UW prints of popular/powerful UB cards. People would desire them. Why do they ignore free money? That was a rhetorical question, obviously its because WotC is incompetent and retarded
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>>97311586
>The fact that I'm not brown means I don't value how I'm perceived
Scientific evidence? You are asserting something with no basis in fact or logic. Just your world view, that is not shared by most.
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>>97311428
I wish I was in your universe within. If you catch my drift
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>>97311474
start giving your creatures flying
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>>97311565
There's gotta be something in green that can refill your hand when its targeted, maybe mono green is the move with this. I just want to swing in with one guy and vomit out every pump spell in my hand on no blocks declared
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Good evening, i like good IP, which universe within happens not to be.
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>>97311587
it's probably because they agreed with the IP they partnered with that there won't be the same card in-universe or some other retarded excuse
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>>97311587
in one of his hilarious posts MaNo said somehow "their data showed" there is not enough demand to justify reprints. even tho there is yet to be a UW reprint set and only bonus sheet style reprints exist
I think the reason is more along the lines of why WOULD they when they can just print the next powercrept set that will sell even more than the last one
I'm just waiting for the day they fuck up and print a mechanically unique secret lair so good it sees play in other formats and people start actually demanding reprints
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>>97311570
Or Mishra, Firebending = Fireforging
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>>97311626
?
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>>97311603
>Scientific evidence?
Expirencing indians(dot) for all of 5 minutes proves it. Now answer the rest of the post.
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>>97311626
skithiryx, vivi and mono g tifa come to mind
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>>97311631
They’ve specifically stated that there are no such agreements.

>>97311587
I’m willing to bet they’re waiting until they hit a critical mass of demand and then do them all in a single Masters-style release, with even more extra-expensive booster packs because all the cards have new art.
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>>97311655
Funny card
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>>97311666
Tifa is the meme kingmaker
Skithyryx is the b2/b3 option
Vivi is cedh
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>>97311662
>My world view shaped by /pol/
got it
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>>97311655
I know green gets a lot of effects like these, this would be good for keeping the hand full, just need a good target. Again a case where Tifa would be perfect but I'm not touching crossover sets
>>97311666
Shotgun skittles would be hilarious actually. Would be really easy to go big mana black, hold him up in the command zone until its go time and have him hit the ground and fucking delete someone
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>>97311689
kess?
feather, do not redeem?
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This guy seems neat
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>>97311721
>just need a good target
i recommend my boy tyvar
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>>97311729
>5/10 BY HIMSELF
>reduces cost
>gives an enormous buff that's active so often it's pratically an anthem
holy fuck. this is going to be the limited bomb to end all limited bombs, isn't it?
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>>97311729
>4 mana 5/10
>also ramps creatures
>also an anthem that works equally well for both toughness matters and "big power small toughness" creatures
"neat" is one word for it...
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>>97311693
>No argument
I accept your concession
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Lifegain bros....we're back
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Who's the most Venezuelan commander?
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>>97311767
>with mana value 3 or less
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>>97311761
And he's still worse then Arcades lol
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>>97311769
Dr. Disrespect
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>>97311560
maybe you should take it as a hint that no one wants to see that shit
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>>97311739
Oh he's good I've never even seen him. He does give double value from your pump spells true, but I think he more encourages going wide. I was actually thinking doing Charix and running all those 1 mana U spells that give +0/+3 and then flipping his power and toughness on attack. I used to have a How 2 Charix image but I must've never saved it on this computer
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>>97311376
They'll swap Time Lord to something else just how Infinity Stone has a Terminus Stone typeline on Arena.
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>>97311823
But this is a Doctor synergy card, so they'd have to do UW reprints of all of them for that.
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>by decree of WotC pic related it fine but women even just having tits is not
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>>97311841
>UW men can show tummy
>UW women cannot show tummy
Yes we all know wotc are a bunch of faggots
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>>97311841
This doesn't excuse you busting out porn proxies at the lgs
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>>97311870
It does
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>>97311841
Holy fucking UNF
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>>97311841
A man without a shirt is not a woman with her tits out.
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>>97311891
Courts have actually disagreed before.
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>>97311841
>saying this when the set has High Perfect Morcant in it
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>>97311841
this is shameless beefcake and still more tasteful than any coomette AI slop proxy I've seen here
which is kinda sad because it's easy to make nice looking AI waifus if you know how to prooompt
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>>97311903
You've been in a chastity cage locked by WotC for so long if you actually think this is attractive.
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>>97311259
I am happy they finally did a Jund -1/-1 counters matter deck because Scorpion God and Hapatra are both really cool and I want to play both in a deck.
My dream commander is just a Jund Theros god that is Bowfly Infestation and requires 10 devotion to be a creature so it's never a creature.
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>>97311920
It's more attractive then that Oko
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>>97311903
UW female tummy? Where?
...oh, "that"
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>>97311858
in universe =/= UW
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>>97311891
>its okay to depict shit like this even though its exactly as arousing to women as cleavage is to men
>>97311903
Die footfag
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>>97311933
Here. It's yours, my friend.
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>>97311964
That is the saddest midriff i've ever seen, Meg
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>>97311259
Pic related is also going to spike as it's a generically good card for the deck and an easy combo piece
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>>97311977
Good thing I already have one.
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>check the 5c elemental precon
>it's all taplands
>include some of the MH2 incarnations, but not all of them
>no way to blink stuff in the precon to cheat some of the evoked creatures
sasuga, WotC
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>>97311970
This one good enough?
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WIZARDS OF THE COAST

GIVE ME ANOTHER DIHADA CARD AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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:>No, you can't make your deck appealing to yourself, it needs to be appealing to me
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>>97311987
They always gyp you on lands in precons, don't act like that's a surprise.
And the full decklist isn't even out yet so I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about when it comes to cards not being in there.
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>>97312010
This but unironically
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>>97312028
retard, the list is on the WotC website
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>>97311947
Hey Slopfaggot, we will use whatever term we like, thanks.
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>>97311259
precons are just legendary soup at this point its disappointing. same shit with the EoE precon just being Korvold, Gitrog, Mazirek in a trenchcoat
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>>97311958
you can greentext as much as you want, but that is an objectively correct statement.
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>>97311841
STOP
OBJECTIFYING
MEN
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>>97311066
>TQ
Describe the color pie personality traits first.
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>>97311252
You got a website? I need a non dyke Archimandrite
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>>97312064
>we
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>>97312113
This but unironically. Women are the most sexist people on Earth.
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You don't actually play with pornographic custom cards in public. You pretend not to online where there aren't consequences but when people can see your face you know that you don't want them to think you're a creepy weirdo.
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>>97312141
It's from coomette on Etsy. I don't think he has one, but he does do requests.
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>preordered the elemental precon as soon as I saw busted ashling
>objectively the right choice
>but
>the sol ring and arcane signet in -1/-1 precon are fucking beautiful
I suffer
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>>97312281
Its really not the same one?
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ChangelingGODs we're eating good
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Enough with the chit chat, lets get some grub going!
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>>97312318
I WISH WE COULD CAST EITHER SIDE AAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>97312318
How am I going to make this "sexy"...
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>>97312318
Why isn't she as off putting as Wort what is this gay ass disney shit bring back ugly as FUCK boggarts
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>>97312296
Don't appear on Scryfall yet (remarkable how lazy those trannies are given they run a site with 1 fucking purpose and they've known since early December that this would be preview week) so pic related

The -1/-1 Sol Ring legit looks like a Secret Lair drop, it's gorgeous. The Arcane Signet is just good but that's still enough to be one of the best AS ever printed.
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What do you consider is "enough" interaction and protection from interaction? If I'm running a voltron "the entire strat relies on the commander" type of deck, how much do I need to avoid being fucked?
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>>97312385
I feel like voltron, ironically, needs less protection than it does ways to get to that protection.
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>>97311252
unfathomably based
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>>97311988
Much better, because it's not in the UW style guide
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>>97312375
finally an arcane signet that's better than the baldur's gate one
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>>97312425
I think I'm going to be waiting a long time before I find one I like better.
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>>97312402
I'm working on a Lightning equipment deck, and it would have stuff like:
>Sword of Butt and Fuck cycle (and the oddballs like Wealth and Power)
>various ways to grab equipment (open the armory, steelshaper's gift, stoneforge mystic, etc etc)
>some ways to cheat the equip costs (inventory management, puresteel paladin, stoneforge mystic again, etc)
>some utility equipment (conqueror's flail, swift boots, campion's helm, etc etc)
>buttloads of ways to get more combats for BONK
>buttloads of ways to get double strike
My question I guess is how heavy do I need to dip into Akroma's Will and all its ilk (as well as creatures like Mother of Runes).
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>>97312455
>My question I guess is how heavy do I need to dip into Akroma's Will and all its ilk (as well as creatures like Mother of Runes).
Uh. To be clear, if you have a sword that is giving pro white onto your commmander, you can't target it with mother of runes. Same way if you have the reaver cleaver in your deck and your commander has pro-red you can't equip it,. So keep that in mind with butt fuck swords.
Other than that, you should run stuff like boros charm for protection, but all of the single target protection you'd want for your commander should be given by your auras/equipments.
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>>97311841
B..bros, i..its not gay to want to fug Oko, r..right?
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>>97312503
as long as he's on bottom you're not the fag.
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>>97312494
>To be clear, if you have a sword that is giving pro white onto your commmander, you can't target it with mother of runes.
I'm aware. I'm just accounting for the "the shuffle decided to fuck my ass" factor.
>Other than that, you should run stuff like boros charm for protection, but all of the single target protection you'd want for your commander should be given by your auras/equipments.
Yeah, Boros Charm was a given. I guess I could cut Akroma's Will, Dawn's Truce, and all the others. I would still like to have a couple of instants like Mana Tithe, rebuff the wicked, etc though.
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>>97312503
depends, how much of a fag voice crack and his dick flopping are you imagining
if it's neither then consider how gay it is to like abs, an hourglass figure, and bedroom eyes. On a man. You gay nigga
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>>97312385
Trick is having protection that also has another function.
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>>97311769
Probably him.
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>>97311841
Why didn't you choose the art with the visible penis outline?
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>>97312650
It's unfortunately his normal art.
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>>97312681
Some high love fujo at wotc has to love oko to let him have such a double standard in the sexless world of modern mtg
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>>97312650
Fucking lmao Im glad Im not the only one who noticed thaf
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>>97312699
>Some high love fujo
>LE WOMEN ARE GOONERS JUST LIKE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Bud, it's almost 100% a fag or troon. Women are less visual, that's why they read their porn.
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>>97312341
gets less undressed on the backside, like a dakimakura
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>>97312650
>dudes can have dick bulges
>but I can't get some cleavage or nipples
How is this equality?
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>>97312749
It isn't. Deal with it.
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>>97312749
it was never about equality
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Anyone have any interesting card suggestions for a commander cube? Rules are:
- no Game Changers
- no banned cards
- no tutors
- no other legendary creatures/potential commanders
- only 1 copy of each card
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>>97312385
If you're in green or white for your first build of the deck I would run 10+ ways to protect your commander.
This sounds like a lot, and it is. But you NEED to make you opponents feel stupid for even trying to interact with you the first couple times you play. Your friends will eventually wise up that you always have it, because at a high enough count you pretty much always will. After awhile you can trim back as needed but don't say shit about it, your friends should still believe your list is packed to the gills with single mana protection that renders interacting with you pointless without multiple layers of removal. In blue just stick to regular counters

In black and red uhhh good luck lmao hope you find lightning grieves
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>>97312779
>In black
>Not Dead After All
>Fake Your Death
>Supernatural Stamina
>Armor of Shadows
>Ashnod's Intervention
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Look how they massacred my boy
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>>97312779
Red has redirect effects which are a bit pricey, but you're killing someone else's thing. Black has cards like "not dead after all."
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>>97312749
>Chris Helmsworth saying he didn't want to do a shirtless scene in the last thor movie
>They strip him fully nude instead telling him, "you are just a piece of meat"
>Fat woman with a thin attractive man
>You go get him girl!
>Fat man with a thing attractive woman
>She must be trapped, she can't be happy, she must be a mail order bride just trying to get a green card.
Welcome to the world we live in dude. Where men can be objectified, degraded, dehumanized into sex object but you even look at a woman's cleavage and you're the devil.
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Newsflash. Women like attractive men.
Women also like pretty girls in their fantasy too.
Men like attractive women.
Men like attractive men in fantasy too.
So why the fuck are we here
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>>97312848
You good bro?
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>>97312744
It was a woman who wrote the gay bolas story arc. Why wouldnt a woman also objectify Oko
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>>97312816
>King No More monarch deck
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>>97312871
Thanks for proving the point that women read/write porn instead of drawing/looking at it, dipshit.
I'm sorry no woman is every going to join you in your goon cave and spend 12 hours a day looking at hentai with you.
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>>97312816
Who did this to him?
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>>97312848
white people are retarded, which is the reason we're here.
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>>97312816
Ironically a great piece for the original
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>>97312848
>Men like attractive men in fantasy
incorrect, men like badass men, and that's why old man action movies sell
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>>97312341
Give her a big schnoz.
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>>97312816
What the fuck happened to him? Why is he no longer a king? Admittedly though I think this is kind of a cool side grade. It's no longer got the instant focusing down you would get from trying to play the old Reaperking. I like how it's trying to use -1/-1's too. Turns things into a reanimation engine. Shame about the fucking once per turn thing.
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>>97310895
I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna play magic in a way thats the most fun for me.
>oughouhuhhggg it would be smarter/better if you did X
You confused me with someone who gives a shit.
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>>97312699
Thank god I'm enough of a hardcore MTG fan where I refuse to play with cards like this or anything UB.
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>>97312981
you deeply wish UW had a gigachad though
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>>97313000
I play Kamahl, Fist of Krosa among others...
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>>97311977
This won't work. When a card tells you that your opponent blights, THEY are the one putting the counter on their cards, which will not trigger this.
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>>97313029
It probably will spike a bit, solely because of people NOT understanding that rules interaction.
That being said there are also a few cards that cause YOU to regularly blight, so they'll still work with it.
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>>97313016
>kamahl
the fact that you have to bring up a 25 year old character in mtg simply means that UW is unsalvagable, they can never go back to kino
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>>97313000
Ajani
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>>97313016
I love that this guy is 100% playable in Ashaya/Selvala combo piles like Captain Sisay
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>>97313069
ajani's a furry
garruk would've been good, but not only was he portrayed as just a meathead, he also got canceled
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>>97312894
Your point is retarded. A male artist drew Oko. So? Why wouldnt a woman be capable of greenlighting slutty Oko art?

The truth is that its ok to want hot sexy art and both men and women like it. Wotc only allows men to be objectified because its socially acceptable to do so. They dont allow women to be objectified because leftist ideology considers that bad. It actually has nothing to do with being written smut or drawn smut. It has everything to do with wotc perceiving slutty females as problematic and smutty males as not problematic.
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>>97313070
Yeah. He REALLY fuckin' is. Unfortunately.
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>>97313077
>not only was he portrayed as just a meathead
Pretty much all of the stories featuring him—especially Throne of Eldraine—had him as thoughtful and introspective, just taciturn. Gideon was unironically more of a meathead.
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>>97311433
And you’re probably right. But i hide my power level and don’t take soft porn cringe cards to the LGS. And I have sex with biological woman.
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>>97313077
Garruk is literally coming back this year
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>>97313100
>had him as thoughtful and introspective, just taciturn.
true, but as a side character, not as main, which is the whole point of wanting a badass character, you want that guy front and center
i'm surprised they still went ahead and used garruk, even if in a lowkey manner, after his cancellation
>Gideon was unironically more of a meathead
he died too early
>>97313110
i want him as the main character, mtg has far too many twinks
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>>97312281
Funnily enough, I vastly prefer both in the elemental deck.
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>>97313065
I just pretend new cards don't exist and don't play them. Simple as. It doesn't exist unless I say it does.

>>97313070
I have him in my Azusa deck as a finisher. Mono-green needs late game mana sinks, and he really can deter board wipes when you need to.
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>>97313122
Jace is now ripped so he's a twunk at best
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>>97312964
The Phyrexianw probably kicked the crap out of him when they realized he couldn't be assimilated.
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>>97313156
*Phyrexians
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>>97312816
I like him. Only thing that would have made him better is if he replaced the tribe of the creatures he brings back with scarecrow. Skinning opponent's creatures and setting them up as his army. Been slowly picking up -1/-1 stuff over the last two or so years in preparation of The Scorpion God, but this new Reaper King seems like a good fit for them while still having some cool flavor to him.
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>>97313109
Hiding power level was for when the general public used to be somewhat respectable, not 2026.
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>>97312816
With hybrid change he could go in any deck
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Yes… ha hah ha ha… yes!!!
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>>97313194
>inb4 mono green having 5cmc removal to kill two X/1 dorks is le bad
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You guys see that musical puppet Lorwyn ad?f
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>>97313029
It still combos will soul scar mage and many other cards inside of the 99
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>>97313194
Just like the classic Reaperking.
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>>97313226
loved it, but then again i love dark crystal this is just me being a hypocrite and praising a UB just because its quality
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>>97313079
>A male artist drew Oko
So I'm right?
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>>97311097
he is very obviously Rakdos
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>>97313226
I recognized it as a Dark Crystal riff but I am not old enough to appreciate it, unfortunately
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>>97313202
You can just get the real scans now anon
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/lorwyn-eclipsed-commander-decklists
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>>97313065
>pic
And CGB made that ad his entire personality for 30 years
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>>97313079
By the way, fellow boomers will recall that during the 90s/00s, the conservative right wing was the entity who was opposed to smut and sluts. Then by some invisible forces the left managed to co-opt the puritanical energy of the righ, and that's when they became 'woke'. And its still happening to this day where wotc is unironically too puritanical to depict women as attractive and slutty. The only reason they are OK with depicting males this way is because they are doing insane mental gymnastics and think that objectifying men actually empowers the lgbt community so that makes it ethical.
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I might be satisfied with how the deck turned out now. What do you think?

https://moxfield.com/decks/Bim2YGGC5kuGLUNcgMat0A
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>>97313281
>yes you have a good point, but i have a sloptuber 24/7 in my head, so i won't accept your point after all
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>>97313284
>the conservative right wing was the entity who was opposed to smut and sluts
pull up the map on which states are banning porn retard.
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>>97313293
>32 lands including 1 mdfc
i dare you to run this with only 1 free mulligan
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>>97313316
>I will ignore how the conept of the male haze, among even more retarded shit such as feminist glaciology, was taken seriously even among academics
>I will also ignore that the porn ID momentum is just a way control freaks in power take advantage of the backlash against woke idiocy in order to push for digital ID
ok retard
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>>97313323
Not him, but isn't that OK in a 2 color deck?
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>>97313335
it's not about the colors, but the avg cmc
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>>97313323
We have a house rule of 1 to 3 free partial paris mulligans (depending on the deck) in order to somewhat balance slight differences in power level (we also tacitly follow some modified bracket rules and price range). Also, I think I have enough mana rocks.
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>>97313365
>>97313323
That being said, if you could suggest some cuts to add some additional lands, I would appreciate it.
One does not always play in the same pod necessarily after all.
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>>97311194
Not yet.

8k spend last year, this is the result.
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>>97313365
>>97313371
replace the 3 GCs (you don't need them in a deck of this power level) and the reprieve+approach combo and replace them with 5 lands
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>>97312951
NTA but I took a stab out of boredom.
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>>97313461
oy vey goyim
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>>97313385
Psh. I just busted out my collection from 2014, most of the items I sold for almost $6k back then on eBay. This is what it's now worth. I traded/sold some valuable ones, bought maybe $2k worth of cards in the past few months.
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>>97313461
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>>97313461
Exceptional schnoz
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>>97313416
How about taking out narset, mystical tutor, commit // memory and some other card for 4 lands? drannith seems like a must have in a stax commander.
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>>97311066
>TQ: If you were a card, what colors would you be based on your personality?
Black and red. I get a kick out of cheating/deceiving to win and I have anger issues ( that I'm managing ). I don't really play much rakdos though, I'm more of a dimir/esper kinda guy.
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>>97311729
My boi Doran, he's still SOVL.
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>>97313529
Ow the edge
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>>97311066
Now the deck lists are out for the precons, what's the things needed to upgrade? I'm looking to get the juund one myself.
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>>97313568
Whatever -1/-1 stuff that wasnt in it, some proliferate support and as always better lands and interaction.
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>>97313595
Of course lands but I don't know black and -1/-1 counters that aren't already in there. I'm looking to get things already in preparation. I was also thinking the scarecrow commander is way better than the other one, am I just bad or is this right?
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this is actually a sick reprint, I was about to spend $20 on this for multani
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How do I build Charix?
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>>97311259
They copied my Yusri coinflip deck and sold it as a secret lair. Assholes.
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>>97313700
>You evoke it
>its destroyed in response so you don't get the sac trigger
???
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>>97311729
BASED BASED BASED
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>>97313700
Total nonbo
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>>97313713
>sac trigger
What sac trigger?
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>>97313730
Nm I'm retarded
>>97313713
You stack the evoke trigger and destroy trigger as you wish.
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>>97313730
>>What sac trigger?
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>>97313700
I'm retarded or this is kinda meh.

>Ashling out
>play Sibsig
>Convoke a dude
>trigger Sibsig
>token enters
>?????

I genuinely don't see the line here. I play Naya btw.
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>>97313767
I think the point is just to reduce the evoke cost,
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>>97313772
Cool I guess. I see the idea but just showing me the hammer and nails isn't as remotely stimulating as showing what they can build.
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>>97313727
Incorrect see >>97313738
And pic related

It's why Elemental Incarnations used to terrorize Standard, you could respond to the ETB with an instant that said "when this creature dies return it to the battlefield", doubling your ETBs and getting the creature at a reduced cost.

>>97313767
>evoking for 2 generic
>getting a free zombie out of something that was going to die anyway
>allows you to build a board wither paying WUBRG, reanimating or populating
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>>97313562
That's a compliment and you should expect such from a B/X player.
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>>97311729
Is he one of the better commanders for defender based decks now?
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>>97313713
>>97313767
>>97313793
Sibsig ceremony doesn't give a fuck what happens after you cast a creature, due to it's wording. You're getting a 2/2 zombie even if you have 13 other triggers on the stack and every trace of the cast creature is wiped from this universe when it finally resolves.

What this really does for you, is allow you to effectively cast all evoke creatures with a 2/2 body as well after casting them for their normal evoke cost. It's a very slight upside honestly.
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>>97313826
>>97313713
>>97313730
>>97313738
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills watching you stupid faggots fumble around with the sac trigger instead of the first effect which may as well read "ashling can evoke elementals out for evoke 2 instead of evoke 4
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>>97313815
I would say he's a wincon in command zone for defender deck.
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>>97313850
Imagine coming up with a nothing burger combo and feel that you have to justify it by responding to the same posts OVER AND OVER again.
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reminder that I'm going to kms when the hybrid rule change is revealed
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>>97311729
so this is spiking right?
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>>97313854
Seems like a retarded thing to do, but you do you.
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>>97313853
I'm not that guy, I just realize a cost reducer for 3 is the draw for sibsig ceremony and the zombie token is intended to be a drawback
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>>97313826
>It's a very slight upside honestly.
It's more than slight, paying WUBRG to keep the token is incredibly steep. The only way to build a board if you're evoking elementals out is to cheat them back in when they sac themselves.
A 2/2 body on every evoke is actually very good, and even better if you then cheat the elemental back in
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>>97312007
They'll just make her old again
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>>97313850
Reducing the cost is to be expected though, you would run Herald's Horn and Urza's Incubator in a deck like this, maybe Cloud Key, a couple other things that reduce creature costs. The aim will be to evoke for 0.

The reason to run Sibsig specifically here actually is the fact that it makes a 2/2 zombie and the usually punishing downside of killing all your casts is ignored because they were all going to sac themselves anyway

>>97313853
He's not me. Cope and sneed
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>>97312681
Why did they make him circumcised?
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>>97313692
Anyone?
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>>97313924
You pump him and make him everyone's problem.
Its very straight forward.
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>>97313933
You "pump" him????
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>men get elf dominatrix feet
>women get Markiplier penis bulge
I think we can say that all genders are happy this Lorwyn.
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I just read the bracket system and it's pretty dumb. They put purely defensive stuff like force of will and aura shards on the same list of "game changers" as actual win button cards. The fair fast mana is also here right alongside the luck/unfair fast mana, yet sol ring is conspicuously missing even though it meets the criteria for some of these being on the list. Why is sol ring a sacred cow that is avoiding the bracket system when it's better than some of the other cards on this list that are on the list for the same things sol ring does? And why are purely defensive cards here next to broken shit like necro and oracle? This list is legitimately internally inconsistent with itself.
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>>97314005
>why is the best counterspell spell, the spell that is basically a must have 4 of in vintage and legacy if your deck hits blue considered a gamechanger.
Its almost like having a free counterspell when you're tapped out and stop the thing that is going to kill you or have your opp combo off is game changing.
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Newfag here,
How do I build a deck that wont lose so hard?
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>>97314065
Go on EDHRec and build from there
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>>97314005
It is inconsistent for the reasons you stated but this is supposed to just be a quick and sloppy way to generally gauge power levels at a glance, and your group can tune it to your liking. Tournaments that require a certain bracket to participate could also take a look at decklists before the event to see if someone is gaming the system, though that's only viable depending on staff, and also has a certain degree of subjectiveness as well. No system is going to be perfect and I agree there are blatant inconsistencies in the current system but rather than defend it, most people just shrug and say it's a work in progress, which to be fair is true.

I do find it funny that the first person to respond defending the system chose one of the weakest cards on the list, and the scenario he proposed is using it when your opponent is about to combo, as if that makes the FoW player the bad guy in the scenario. So most people simply do not defend it and know that it's a sloppy system, and the people who do defend it are typically not the brightest crayons in the box.
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>>97314065
What exactly do you mean by "lose so hard"? Do you only win like 25% of games?
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>play in a bracket 4 pod tonight
>using my janky boros aggro deck lead by Gisela
>so much back and forth
>end up winning by casting insurrection and taking everyone out turn 14
One of the best games ever. From turn 5 and on, almost anyone could have won.
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>>97311920
>Rachel Leigh Cook...but if she were a Goat-Elf hybrid.
Weird choice, WoTC.
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>>97314083
I remember when this card was considered to be absolutely broken. One guy left for another table after I played it.
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>>97314065
Some of it is deckbuilding, but a lot more of it then you might think is in attitude. Don't be one of those people who goes out of their way to not kill people when they can and then wonder why you never win. If you want to win the game, play with the intent of winning.

That said, as far as deckbuilding goes, sadly "random cool draft chaff" hasn't really been a viable strat in commander in almost a decade.
Have a plan instead of just putting in random cool stuff. Look at every card in your deck and ask yourself: "Why is this here?" And if you can't think of a reason beyond "idk its cool," remove it. Plan your deck to always be working towards a specific goal that will cause your opponents to lose. Additionally, your deck should be always have ways of interacting with things that disrupt your strategy, and always have a way of protecting your strategy. Use common sense about what kind of interaction you want: a deck that just wants to flood the board probably doesn't need wraths unless they are one sides wraths.
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>>97314083
Mono green Azusa player played Genesis Wave twice for 15+ and completely whiffed. We were gaining up on him and he was always one turn away from killing everyone.

>>97314093
I won because he already had his Concordant Crossroads, Craterhoof Behemof and Lightning Greaves destroyed and Farewelled. After that he had to wait a turn no matter how much shit he threw down on the board. Saved me a lot of time and I felt I got lucky.
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Goddammit I already had trouble making cuts for my Yuna Grand Summoner saga creatures deck and now I gotta squeeze in this shit too?
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>>97311931
I really like both of the Lorwyn precons
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>>97313891
Kai Carpenter is a coastal American, so that's probably the only type he's ever seen.
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>>97314125
No, it doesn't.
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>>97314131
I read it wrong :(
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It's over
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>>97311259
This is what happens when you play an under supported and neglected archetype. Us vamp tribals have been putting up with this shit for damn near 10 years now. When someone rolls up to a table with a Jund -1/-1 deck you'll be able to guess 80-90% of the cards in their deck accurately.
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>>97314072
I want to build my own deck though
>>97314076
Like when I play with my friends they have like 10 things they're doing at once on their turns and I'm usually just playing a couple of creatures
>>97314102
I could do this but I don't want my deck to just be dinosaurs the deck
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>>97314105
This is going in the counter-sac deck.
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>3rd commander night in a row when some dipshit has played coat of arms while I have a massive tribal board in play
>every single time I have to tell them that it is a symmetrical effect when they are confused as to why I am suddenly attacking everybody for lethal
Did some retard influencer tell people to start playing this card without explaining how it works or something?
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>>97314164
Then you just gotta have a better feel for what works and what doesn't, what actually helps in your deck. For instance I took out Time Spiral from my Oloro deck, even if it's an alright card it doesn't necessarily help me with my win con.
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>>97314107
I think they're neat. Evoking elementals seems the most intriguing, but most of them don't have evoke on the card itself and encore is very expensive.
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>>97312779
Downside is you're forced to look at an ugly UW OC DONUT STEEL dei card, but Kaya's GF does a lot of work and it's cheap as shit (price and mana wise) too. Most of the time players don't even bother targeting once it's on a creature because most people hate feeling like they spent mana for no reason. Usually the only way my creature gets taken out is if KGF gets removed from a board wipe or I'm forced to sac
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>>97314149
I wish hellions had support :(
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>lorewyn has an elemental tribal theme
IS IT FINALLY TIME FOR MY BOI OBSIDISAN FIREHEART?
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Once upon a time this was one of my favorite cards. I wish it was legendary.
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>this is 160 dollars in foil
What the absolute fuck
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>>97314257
>monored
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Can someone give me the lore of Gaddock Teeg?
I was excited for him in ECL but apparently he's dead and was also the main antagonist?

I just thought he seemed cool.
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>Lortwynk is a bulk common
Noooooooo
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>>97314291
>Lortwynk
Oko?
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>>97314257
A year from now:
>Hey, have you read this article? The prices for these trading card games all collapsed. They are all worthless now. People actually spent thousands of dollars on cardboard, can you believe it? Hahahaha. Hey anon, didn't you collect them as well?
Your response without sounding mad?
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>>97314303
I wake up and begin crying that another day has passed and my prediction of "MTG SHALL DIE FOR WRONGING ME" has not come true.
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>>97314290
old lorwyn plot was decades ago
he was just a leader of kithkin village the protag party got involved with investigating oona and almost got KKK'd by them because GW still meant racism back then IIRC
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>>97311841
>flat out a coom card for me
>I can use it and no one can say anything because it is official
Fags winning.
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>>97314319
Well that's a shame. I thought he was some major character in that block or something.
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>Someone played a Hazbin Hotel proxy against me
I conceded and then turned 360 degrees and walked away
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>>97314261
>proxy
>AIslop
at this point, I am impressed you committed to the bit
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>>97314307
>everything lasts forever, especially if it owns the chuds!
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>>97314378
>Two more weeks
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>>97314379
It could be two more decades, I don't give a fuck. The point is none of the shit you think is important today is going to last forever. Most of it won't even last your lifetime. Mocking people for saying there will be an end to Magic is retarded, because there will be, you can only disagree with them on when and by that point you have already conceded.
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>>97314382
haven't you noticed?
woke stuff will start to diminish and even revert itself during this decade
this will revitalize magic and make it last yet another handful of decades
it might have an end, but (You) wont see it
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Easiest way to poke this thing in monogreen?
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>>97314452
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>>97314452
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>>97314452
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>>97314459
criminally underplayed
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>>97314452
>>97314476
Holy mother of cool jank. Just do it.
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>>97314506
Burn?? In mono green???? AIIIEEEEE MY CABBAGES
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>>97314149
I wouldn't say vampires are anywhere near under supported or neglected. They get a good chunk of cards throughout. They have a whole other problem in that Edgar is so clearly above and beyond the best other options they have in the command zone that it pigeonholes them.
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>>97314825
My man, Edgar is literally the only option if you're going Mardu. That's why they're neglected. And it doesn't matter that they had Ixalan, nowadays if you don't have a new set with at least 10-15+ creatures at least once every 2 years the tribe starts to fall way behind due to FIRE design. Compare what Elves and Merfolk and Gobbos are getting to the mishmash of Vampires we last got with Ixalan, and there's nothing on the horizon for vamps except rare one offs like Morbin' Time or Eddie Munster College Years that bring nothing to vamp tribal (especially Markov tribal, which again is the only Mardu Vamp commander that cares about vamps).
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>>97314257
mine cost 3.50 after shipping :)
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>>97312681
Oko more like OwO
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>>97314452
ORBITAL STRIKE THAT NEST
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>>97312816
>>97312904
>>97312964
He's a scarecrow, and he lost Blue and White. Now what type of animal that doesn't get along with scarecrows happens to usually be Blue and White?
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>>97314185
I really hate that Kaya is in this. I only run it in one deck even though it'd be better than other cards in several.
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never really bought sealed products but thinking about getting a Lorwyn Eclipsed Play Booster Box this time because I really like this set.
its about 110€ for me. will it be a major money loss? i know its just luck but based on the average cards you can sale from your openings...what do you think?
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>>97315390
>is gambling a money loss?

that being said lorwyn looks generally strong and it supports some popular deck types. never gamble money you cant afford to lose always assume with sealed product that you burnt your cash and wont make even a fraction back
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>>97315390
You could end up with 10 or 20€ worth of cards. Check AtlA and Spiderman for comparison for example. A play booster is 5€. From the AtlA set only 7 or 8 cards are worth at least that much. And only two cost more than 10€. For Spiderman it's only two cards worth more than 5€ and only the infinity stone worth anything really.
Lorwyn is looking better by virtue of having reprints of 5 shock lands which will always be above 5€. Some other cards also look good, but even then you might lose half your money if you strictly look at value.

You could go to a sealed prerelease, at least you get to play a nice format with your new cards if you wanna buy a few packs.
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>>97315437
>>97315530
yea I know its probably gonna be a loss but cracking packs is so fun....

Im already planning on doing a draft with a few friends so Im gonna play with those cards anyway.

the display would just be for having that funny feeling of spending money on something you like.

also; all those fancy alt art cards are only in collector boosters, right? my mtg break was too long. I dont understand how magic products work now after hasbro has taken over lol
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Boronko, of the flurbulent four
WR
Creature - nightmare advisor
Emminence - commander abilities cant cause players to draw cards. Pregame - if a player changes commanders after seeing your commander, you get a commander counter for each player who does so.

Whenever Boronko attacks, blocks, becomes the target of a spell or ability, or leaves the battlefield - you may gain a counter or remove any number commander counters to increase the number of times a player has casted their commander, increasing tax.

T: target player ignores commander tax the next time they cast their commander, in exchange, each player exiles the top X cards of their library, they can play them until end of turn. Where X is the total mana cost of that commander.
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>can't do flamekin tribal because flamekin are all the enablers and the bigger, non-flamekin elementals are supposed to be your payoffs
fug
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Alright you nerds, tell me which is better: lightning greaves or swift boots.
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>>97315795
Boils down to, do you ever want to target your own creature
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>>97315795
You are supposed to evaluate them based on the cards in your deck you dope.
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>>97315795
both
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>>97315795
If you don't care about targeting, Greaves. If you care about targeting, swiftfoot. It's generally irrelevant since you should be running both in your decks anyways, permanent haste+protection for two different creatures for 2+3 mana is incredible
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>>97315828
>>97315847
Does the target bit even matter?
>equip greaves
>if you need to equip something else to the creature, move the greaves for 0 cost, equip, then move the greaves back
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>>97315858
You moving the greaves gives your opponents and opportunity to kill your very important creature that you were trying to protect in the first place. So yeah, it can matter
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>>97315858
Yea. I got a swords to plowshares waiting for you to do silly shit.
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>>97315875
>>97315887
"No"
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oh great, it's an "I always have it" episode
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>>97315905
If you're just going to have the perfect response to anything at all times why are you even asking for advice on which one is better?
Why are you even running protection in the first place since you'll always have rebuff
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>>97315908
>he doesn't always have it
Literally a skill issue.
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>>97315920
To be fair, the same can be said about anyone saying "I'll have plows/counter ready at the EXACT time I need it."
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>>97315905
Sorry bud, you were tapped out, hence why the 0 equip of lightning greaves was important. RIP in piss
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>>97315937
No, because if your critter is important enough to need a greaves, that means it's likely a fucking lightning rod. Your 3 opponents are itching for an opportunity.
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>>97315937
Its more likely one of your 3 opponents are holding onto a removal than it is for you have your 1/99 chance perfect response and its an exact answer to "why does the shroud matter?"
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>>97315905
Lol
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>>97315905
>picks this, more anons are going to post more counters
>doesnt pick legolas's quick reflexes
Do you even shit post
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>>97315937
Thats why you have the fucking lightning greaves in the first place, you're assuming without it someone is going to kill your dude. If you're gonna pretend "they dont have it", then you dont need the fucking greaves in the first place.

>>97315905
Shit like this should be saved for when I'm alleging to destroy your greaves
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All this talk of proxies and paypigs, I just don't use any expensive cards.

Of course everyone in my playgroup spends thousands a year so their decks have all the bullshit and I've got a one in ten win rate.
The game is p2w unless you proxy to the level of your playgroup. I don't think anyone would really argue that though.
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>>97311252
>>97311252
Fucking based
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>>97315937
okay, so why run protection at all then if they don't have it?
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>>97313793
>standard
>muh zombie
>thinking the 4 evoke cost is the strong part of the card not the token copy
Jesus Christ you are a fucking retard. Don't ever post on my board again.
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>>97316203
>The game is p2w unless you proxy to the level of your playgroup
The game is only p2w if you don't spend any money on it and the rest of your playgroup does.
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>>97313331
All I hear is "Potato, Potat-oh"
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>>97316309
Also
>inb4 "but that's what p2w means"
No, child, it does not. Read my post again and if you still can't understand it, come back when you're 18 years old with an education.
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>>97312816
I fucking hate this
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>>97312964
>he thinks mtg has a story for its characters
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>>97314261
>4chan filename (for mobile)
>posted in the same thread as the original
What are you doing
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>>97316345
I know this game is usually pretty shit when it comes to it's character and story. But a name with a subtitle like "King No More" is the kind that implies a story happened. Especially when it's a new form of a previous card. Just would have liked a little of whatever happened there instead of whatever the fuck is going on with the main shitters in the set.
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>>97316420
People assumed we'd see the Tarkir Dragonlords in Tarkir Dragonstorm and were given a sentence in one of the blog posts. Keep dreaming buddy.
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>>97316428
TDS had the best story of 2025, shut your mouth
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>>97316428
Tarkir ended up such a disappointing end to those that I completely forgot about that. You make a fair point. Guess I forgot I shouldn't expect anything from this game.
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>>97314144
how so?
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>>97316455
Probably the most insulting thing you could say about Magic's story kek
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Where's my spellstutter sprite reprint.
I'm not spending $5 for it.
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>>97316495
>he pays the extortionist prices
Just call Chang if you want 1:1 fakes.
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>>97316541
I get raped by shipping when I order from him and I don't have enough cards for a worthwhile order.
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>>97312385
I have 11 pieces of protection in my Mardu equipment deck, about 9 in my Yenna deck
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I wanna fuck this thing
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>>97316647
What the fuck is a 'Barin'
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>>97316581
Yeah, you gotta wait until you hit the free shipping amount ($75 usually). You can also do a pooled buy with other people.
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>>97316647
That's kinda weird
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This is pretty neat
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>S00N
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>>97316673
Simic really needed a mother of runes type effect.
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Look how smug this piece of shit is
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Why dont't they ever print interesting cards in Boros and Orzhov colors
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>>97316685
RELEASE HIM (and my girl Emrakul).
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>>97316462
>>97316488
Cons: Dragonlords offscreened, Narset and Sarkhan character assassinated, Jace grabs the idiot ball, all the khans smoothed over with no real development
Pros: Gay Bolas is made canon
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>>97316704
They will be GCs 100%
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I'm in favor of releasing the entire banlist to the GC list just to make B3 copers as miserable as possible.
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>>97316717
Cant wait to waste the entire night looping shahrazad and forcing people to ante with contract from below because hey when your deck's full of worthless proxies anyways gambling becomes meaningless so let me have my 1 mana draw 7
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>>97316693
Extremely smug.
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>>97316734
You literally just described the scenario I want although it's weird you brought up proxies.
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>>97314065
Just build a green deck full of big stompy creatures
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What is the proper REEEE sound at scalpers stealing all local commander precon presales? I need to get the frustration out of the system.
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>>97316719
>Hey Mark our game is circling the drain what do we do?
>Pull out... the dragon sex
>B-But Mark, we already did that in Tark-
>Put it on the card art
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>>97316744
Not weird at all, contract from below is just the product of late stage proxism
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>>97316753
I honestly have to kneel to gay bolas anon. He wrote a story so good it caused WotC to pivot around him.
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Which banned are you most excited to play?
>pic related
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>>97314878
Enjoy your fake card like you enjoy your fake girls. So sorry gooning to troons all the time prevents you to afford something real.
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Here's your 10 cent mythic
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>>97316755
You know the funny thing is Rhystic Study is still probably stronger in EDH.
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>>97316818
>So sorry gooning to troons all the time prevents you to afford something real.
What an unhinged reaction
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how much play will this see?
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>>97316850
Very little obviously
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>>97316850
Probably 0% outside of elemental tribal
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>>97316874
Love Worm Harvest on a body, might build this bitch. Also she should be a Spellshaper.
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>>97316653
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>>97316884
*He
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Is it worth picking up both lorwyn precons or just the Jund one I'm more interested in? 1 is 40, both is 65. The elementals seems to have some decent reprints but is much less focused
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>>97317041
both are going to be cheaper to buy as singles. not a single new card is pushed enough
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>>97317074
isn't that always the case? and if they do have good new cards they get bumped up $20+
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>>97317074
>both are going to be cheaper to buy as singles
One is likely going to end up paying more over all with shipping from 6 different sellers to get all the pieces.
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>>97317089
most of the time yeah. you are basically paying extra for the convenience of packaging and potentially faster delivery
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>>97317041
I'm just tickled that Flourishing Defenses was in fact reprinted.
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>>97317074
There's $40 across only three reprinted cards in Ashling, that's already more than MSRP
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If I had infinite money I'd buy all the sol rings.
Nobody would be able to affore sol rings but me.
When sol rings get printed in new commander decks, those decks will be super expensive because people will want them "sol"ely (kek) for the sol rings!
Wizards will have to have a print run of sol rings because the demand will be so high AND THEN ILL BUY THOSE TOO!

Once I corner the market on sol rings I move on to arcane signet.
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>>97316912
So Herald's Horn but with the ability to clear the top.
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>>97317153
And an additional trigger on ETB.
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>>97317033
I stand my my decision
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This is my pauper commander.
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>>97316839
The funnier thing is how you missed contract slotting into breach lines
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>>97311066
>TQ:
Simic
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New
>>97317290
>>97317290
>>97317290
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>>97317193
I glazed over the enter the battlefield trigger. That is a pretty sizable upgrade.
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>>97317147
not a single reprint is over 10 so this is not possible but also thinking those prices would hold is naive



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