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>Thread question:
What is /yourdudes/ beverage of choice?
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BIG
BOUNCY
BANSHEE
BUTTS
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>>97318157
Why does it have a 4chan filename
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>>97318143
>lens "eyes"
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>>97318157
>TQ
Canonically adrenochrome and liquid ghost cocktail.
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>>97318179
SHITbaddon can't even pose standing up right.
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I only play Kill Team, so I never thought about this... but when they release a set of dice like this one, people buy like 3+ of them to play 40k? lol
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>>97318143
But she produces crystals from there
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I was slightly tempted to ritualpost this each and every thread like I use to when I was Necrons!poster all those years ago, but I think /40kg/ has plenty of ritualists already. I will be curious if this formatting works right.
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>>97318187
He had too much adrenochrome, give him a break.
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>>97318177
4chanx randomizes my filenames
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>>97318197
I hate named characters and the modern trend of huge, overdesigned miniatures and I have to admit that that Abaddon looks stellar. Great work, Anon.
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>>97318178
It's fine.
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>>97318189
I mean potentially someone has, but those are specifically for KT. They have bigger tubs of dice for 40K.
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Be honest with me, anons. What are the chances of the Word Bearers getting a release in 11th?
Any rumours/leaks/lore pieces to support this or is it pure cope?
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I wish instead of Necrons getting a focus on destroyers they got a focus and variants of flayed ones. There, I said it.
[spoiler[Also I wish they would revert to 3rd/4th edition lore or at least have a necron/dark necron split[/spoiler]
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>>97318248
Zero
You might get a killteam in 2027
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>>97318251
I wish they would just scrub the whole flayed one narrative, shits bogus.
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>>97318248
Pure cope. Guilliman getting a 2nd 40k model is more likely.
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>>97318248
Maybe a model and upgrade kit like Salamanders, Raven Guard and the like.
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>>97318157
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>>97318231
Those are not KT dices. They are faction dices, which most of the times are for 40k (or AoS or whatever). They are few because they suffered a bad case of shrinkflation. Once in a while GW sold them in much bigger sets, but Jews gotta Jews.
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>>97318268
I hate nucron fags so much. Flayed ones are the last vestige of uncontrolable necrons that cannot be reasoned with
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If Lorgar got a Daemon Prince model, he'd be the first ever Primarch model I buy.
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>>97318293
It's not like you can reason with destroyers, or severed, or 99% of the necron nobility.
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>>97318248
??? Chaos space marines is already a faction anon
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>>97318293
I hate larpers like you even more
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>>97318289
In the end it always boils down to Red vs Blue
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>>97318251
I'd prefer more a a Triarch Pretorian character. It's bogus how in the lore Pretorians are all super important dudes and in the tabletop they are a random unit with zero characters.
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>>97318293
Severed are literally exactly oldcrons except not being led by c'tan
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>>97318305
You can reason with destroyers as long as you say "afterwards you can kill everything on the planet"
Severed are lame versions of what necrons were before, and most necron nobility are just planetary governors with a god complex now. Necrons never should have been humanized and should have stayed a scientific lovecrafitan force to contrast with chaos
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>>97318251
>variants of flayed ones.
Besides a lord, what else? I guess they could have a unit with other kinds of "mutations" like the finecast ones that had pincers and blood collection tanks and stuff.
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>>97318325
>You can reason with destroyers as long as you say "afterwards you can kill everything on the planet"
That only works for other Necrons.
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>>97318318
>they are exactly like old crons except for the whole appeal of them being led by lovecraftian gods
>>97318327
Literally any variant of necron or constructs contracting the disease
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>>97318325
>You can reason with destroyers as long as you say "afterwards you can kill everything on the planet"
10th edition codex says the exact opposite
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>>97318127
Admech waifus are canon?
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>>97318289
Based and blueorkpilled
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>>97318292
Right, I thought "Destroyer Cult" was the name of a KT but I can see it's something else. They also still have their 20 x dice cubes I can also see on the website. Most people just buy third party anyway though.
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>>97318353
This book was fucking AMAZING!
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>>97318351
Anything after 4th edition isn't canon and also "rational" necrons can bargin with them fine. Maybe even chaos could since they aren't "living".
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>>97318293
Post painted green acrylic rod necrons
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Venoms, Wyches, and Lelith are back in stock, don't know which I should grab
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>>97318374
Lelith so you can hotglue her.
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>>97318372
I have purple rods for mine though.
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>>97318374
The one you will be most likely to actually build and paint
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Guys.
Show me all the fucking leaks, s'il vous plait.
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What's a good way to expand my dark eldar?
I have 2 old combat patrols, 1 new combat patrol, 1 venom and 1x5 scourges
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>>97318370
>Anything after 4th edition isn't canon

Which is funny because 4th edition Core book appearance paints Necron as destroyer cults, in opposition to the 3rd edition codex where their goal was literally the opposite of the extermination of all life.
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>>97318370
4th edition isn't canon.
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>>97318127
A corn and barley based beer served with a slice of lime or lemon.
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>>97318408
Back then it was because they were slaves to a star god, not because they contracted space autism
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>>97318407
Probably a sounding device
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>>97318399
Sous video?
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>>97318415
Except for the fact that the star gods wanted to actually keep eating, so the eradication of all life went explicitly against their goals.

Hell, the whole reason they went to sleep in the 3rd edition codex was that the galaxy was being scoured of lifeforms because of warp predators, and they couldn't sustain themselves like that.

So what it is?
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>>97318408
So much for Lovecraftian.
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So that deep strike anything detachment. How long before GW restricts vehicles from benefitting from it because deep striking a land raider redeemer sounds horrific
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>>97318433
Yeah, I honestly never understood what the 3rd edition C'tans have of Lovecraftian. They are just powerful organisms that like to eat. There is nothing unknowable about them.
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>>97318431
>eat
>go back to sleep
>eat
>go back to sleep
They'd kill most of the galaxy but seed some small life (things like Pariahs were evidence of this), then sleep for 60 million years, ready to do it again. Maybe different C'tan would fight again if they think they are being too greedy
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>>97318262
>Kill Team only
Bleak.

>>97318269
>>97318274
:(

>>97318302
Definitely!

>>97318306
>No custom, bespoke units
>No name characters
>No real unique rules/stratagems
I know you're baiting but at least try and not sound retarded.
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>>97318454
>There is nothing unknowable about them
They have direct control of reality and the sciences and are a foil to humanity opposite of chaos, showing a reflection of what man could turn into if they just shut off their emotion and all connection to the warp. Also some like the Deciever and Outsider are more nuanced, only the Nightbringer has the sole motivation of killing and eating
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>>97318386
>>97318389
Lelith it is
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>>97318456
That's a nice headcanon but absolutely not the picture the 3rd edition codex shows. They only went back to sleep because they were forced to. Their goal was to remove the warp which they considered the greatest threat to their food supply and then create galaxy wide farms where people only existed to be psychologicallly tortured in order to be more tasty to eat.
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What are you working on /40kg/? I finished the design for the freehand on my predator, gonna start painting now.
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>lorefags
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>>97318441
feels like it would be very easy to screen out a land raider from deepstriking anywhere dangerous.
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>>97318370
>I don't like this modern take because [incorrect assumption]
>actually that's not the case and here's the proof
>uhhh uhhh don't care don't care lalala!
fuck off and stop wasting everyone's time then
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>>97318189
Yes I am one of those idiots who buy these sets for their armies (like the Vashtorrr and Black Legion sets). I only buy 1 and generally use them either to roll for characters and/or wound tracking.
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Turns out oldcrons were pretty fucking lame. Good thing they cucked the ctan instead.
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>>97318470
>Outsider are more nuanced
The only lore about the Outsider has him getting tricked by Cegorah into eating other C'tans and going crazy because of it. That's not really what I consider nuance.
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>>97318484
True, I kind of forgot the first time they were forced to sleep because of their own fuckups and eating each other. I just imagine something similar would happen again until there is only one over vast cycles of this happening, in which case the second part of removing the warp and having no competition would come into play. Unless the nightbringer won
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I can't decide if I want more stupid bullshit or if I want my army to be actually good
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>>97318505
Just saying that only the Nightbringer just wanted to kill and eat. The fact that C'tan could be tricked into fighting and killing each other shows that fundamentally they have other ambitions besides just eating somewhere. Like the Deciever liking to fuck with people or the Nightbringer going out of its way to torment the psyche of the other races
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>>97318157
model
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>>97318513
unless you're playing competetively the answer seems pretty obvious to me
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>>97318490
I'm working on 3rd Edition Dark Eldar. Currently finishing up some of the old metal Grotesques
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>>97318504
The uncomfortable truth is that the depiction of Necrons in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade as absolute nihilists is what actually hooked a shitload of oldcron fans into the army compared to their 3rd edition depiction.
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>>97318490
I’m VERY slowly painting my lizardmen bloodbowl team. Then it’s gonna be some marine characters and my crabnaught.
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>>97318547
Oop accidentally posted in dead thread
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>>97318555
please tell me that wasnt a legit FW tauros vehicle
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>>97318525
I have no idea what you see in these sculpts but I like that you like them
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>Necrons are ancient aliens who acheived transference tens of millions of years ago and gave up their real bodies for immortal metallic shells
>These ancient robot aliens overthrowed their own gods (even more powerful aliens who fed off stars directly) and broke them into shards and use them as weapons of war
>Symoblically they are at the end of social development as they are technological development. They acheive enlightment overthrow their gods and have new bodies that are immortal and industructible (they get damage but can be repaired ever in battle of teleported out)
>But they were actually tricked by one of their gods to have a race wide bio-transference
>There are now two different contagious plagues affecting their robotic bodies, the flayer and destroyer curses
>Most necrons lost their personalities and are just mindless automata
>Necrons can be killed for real if they get too damaged at once

It seems to me Necrons went from being 'lovecraftian alien race' (metal tyranids) to instead being an advanced alien race that are victims of the C'tan /lovecraftian like aliens.
All their technological and social development didn't save them.
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>>97318516
>The fact that C'tan could be tricked into fighting and killing each other shows that fundamentally they have other ambitions besides just eating somewhere

Except for the fact that the outsider wasn't tricked into fighting other C'tans. It was tricked into eating them. Which is a pretty big counter on the idea that it had other ambitions other than eating.

>Like the Deciever liking to fuck with people or the Nightbringer going out of its way to torment the psyche of the other races
The 3rd edition codex explicitly explain that as certain emotions tasting better to them. The Nightbringer spread fear because he liked eating people that tasted of fear.
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>>97318524
more daemon dogs it is
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>>97318572
Nta but
>noooooo you didn't use your toys the way I would noooooo
Never understood this sentiment
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>>97318574
Current Necron are basically a big parable over selling your soul for immortality and power, gaining that but losing yourself and everything that made immortality and power worth it.
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>>97318572
Nah. I found a decent STL of it and went to town. Here's another possible proxy I was floating but felt too armored-car-ish
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>>97318577
>Except for the fact that the outsider wasn't tricked into fighting other C'tans
Unless they willingly walked into its gullet there would have been fights.
>The 3rd edition codex explicitly explain that as certain emotions tasting better to them
Yeah, and if that was worthy enough of a reason to eat and fight each other then that shows to me that they have certain other instincts beyond "hungry". Pariahs are again, another example of this. I just prefer when it was up to interpretation what some of the C'tan were up to and how powerful they really were compared to now where all the mystique behind old necron culture is just gone, where before it was hard to say where the C'tan influence on their technology began and ended.
>>97318574
Newcron lore loses gravitas when you realize it is an entire race paying the price of one boomer falling for a phone scam.
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>>97318555
Looks sick, I have a couple tauros I was going to try kitbash with that goofy ahh scion vehicle to make more heavily armoured tauros' (counts-as the scion vehicle).
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>>97318353
The Owlcat game Dark Heresy will have a admech waifu companion you can romance. The romance will apparently be very weird.
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>>97318157
Haven't had as much time to paint lately as i'd like. World eater still a wip. Think I'll add some small skulls to his robe here and there
>>97318525
Awesome
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The Ork DoW4 trailer is fucking terrible. Slow, weightless animation, Marines dying to a light slap from an Ork, sound effects miss all punch.
Tiz shite.
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>>97318651
Based, I actually can't wait. I started a new RT run to experience the DLC content but stopped playing in anticipation of DH, all I want is that ogryn and kroot gameplay (and a side of mechanicus bussy ig).
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>>97318619
>Yeah, and if that was worthy enough of a reason to eat and fight each other then that shows to me that they have certain other instincts beyond "hungry".

Pariahs are again, another example of this.
Pariah in actual 40k were just an anti-warp weapon.
>I just prefer when it was up to interpretation what some of the C'tan were up to and how powerful they really were
Anon, in the old lore you could shoot C'tans with a lascannon on the battlefield. In the Nightbringer novel the titular C'tan gets threatened by an Ultramarine with a meltabomb. Current C'tans are a lot more
free to be up to interpretation regardless of their strength (we explicitly don't know how powerful a true C'tan is, but larger shards have been ridiculous) and motivations.

You might not like how Necron society has been described and that's fine, that's just personal taste, but you are basically going on old C'tans by personal headcanon used to fill lack of informations and in some cases explicitly going against the little informations we had about them. In reality we knew verh little about them but everything we know pointed at them being extremely simple creature, whose goals booked down to eat, eat things that taste better and remove threats on their food supply.

>Newcron lore loses gravitas when you realize it is an entire race paying the price of one boomer falling for a phone scam.

You can trivialise everything, but in reality there is a reason for why Faustian deals are a staple of fiction going back centuries.
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>>97318655
>Awesome
Ty anon, he's nearly done and I really like him.
Those are some sexy Consortium models! Going to do Oleander? I loved his character.
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So am I reading that right? I can deep strike 3 loaded transports on turn 1 with the new detachment?
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>>97318687
Where did you get the turn 1?
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>>97318302
Wish more people played word bearers
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>>97318422
>hasnt watched wizards
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>constantly throwing drug-fueled murder orgies
>enormous gladitorial arena battles sustain their souls on constant bloodshed
>regularly use hyper-advanced poisons and viruses for battle and recreation
>dominated by the most cunning and scheming among them who must constantly maneuver to survive
>live in a subdimension just barely separated from the warp
>have LESS of a chaos problem than mon-keighs
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>>97318707
Turns out if you already act like chaos cultists and constantly offer sacrifices to the Chaos Gods they have few reasons to corrupt you further.
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>>97318684
>You might not like how Necron society has been described and that's fine, that's just personal taste, but you are basically going on old C'tans by personal headcanon used to fill lack of informations and in some cases explicitly going against the little informations we had about them. In reality we knew verh little about them but everything we know pointed at them being extremely simple creature, whose goals booked down to eat, eat things that taste better and remove threats on their food supply.
I was fine knowing little about them and with their presence as a force that couldn't be reasoned with.
People say "lol metal tyranids" but tyranids are just another faggot xeno race with generic psychic abilities, literally just less creative orks when you boil it down.
Necrons were beyond that paradigm and were a race that every other feared which is why I liked them. Now they are just predictable and, just like what happened with the HH, the magic is gone now that they have been demystified.
>You can trivialise everything, but in reality there is a reason for why Faustian deals are a staple of fiction going back centuries.
They already had that portion of their lore with the faustian bargain though. It wasn't nulore that invented it, they just felt the need to put faces and names to the bargain and treat it as a political scheme to keep the empire from collapsing. In old lore it was about hatred for the Old Ones and for their own lot in life which is more compelling because they got what they wanted even in a twisted way afterwards, whereas in the nulore the Silent King got to sell everyone's life away, agree or not.
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>Just learned about the Auxiliary Cadre
>Love Tau Auxiliaries
>Have loads of Kroot and Vespid
>Literally just started properly working on my Ynnari army
:(
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>>97318687
no you're not reading it right
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Word Bearers cultists should be called Word Hearers
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>>97318754
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How big is your Pile of Shame?
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>>97318714
>In old lore it was about hatred for the Old Ones and for their own lot in life which is more compelling because they got what they wanted even in a twisted way afterwards, whereas in the nulore the Silent King got to sell everyone's life away, agree or not.

In the old lore there were a lot of Necrontyrs that didn't want to turn into Necron, and got forced by the C'tan Loyalists. In the new lore there were a lot of Necrontyrs that didn't want to turn into Necron, and got forced by the Triarch Loyalists. The only difference is that the new lore gave a name to the guy that was currently leading them. The civil war thing is a motivation for the war against the Old Ones, not for the biotranspherence. That has been a Deceiver trick in both versions of the lore. And even the war in heaven in the 3rd edition was described as happening because the Necrontyr were jealous and full of hate. While in the new lore it's because the Necrontyr were jealous and full of hate, which made the Old Ones a convenient external enemy to stop a civil war. They are not that different.
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>>97318778
Clutters our whole spare bedroom. Full sized dresser unit and a bedside unit fulla boxes (I'm the anon who posted about his several armies of shame a couple threads back).
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>>97318778
Small
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>>97318712
Headcannon
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>>97318778
About a third of my Maggotkin waiting to be finished , Emperor's Children barely even assembled and I'm currently working on my Ynnari.
My PoS shall only grow however, because Starcraft releases this year and I'm diving hard into it, nothing will be painted except Zerg and Protoss for quite a while lol
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>>97318788
>In the old lore there were a lot of Necrontyrs that didn't want to turn into Necron, and got forced by the C'tan Loyalists.
Yeah I know, that is why immortals and the like exist too - they were the biggest C'tan supporters. In old lore though there wasn't big revolts regarding it and stuff though as far as I know.
For the rest it was ambiguous as to how it happened but in nulore it says they were dragged in chains, and I feel like those who didn't want it wouldn't have been taken alive.
Also this is a separate gripe but I hate most retcon era models for necrons onward except for the canoptek constructs. The old designs for necrons show this sturdy enduring shit with a bit of Egyptian motif and the new shit is all space boats for vehicles and egypt shit first with sturdiness being absent.
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>>97318810
having a cannon on your head does not sound very practical
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>>97318814
Also pretty stoked for the starcraft minis. Definitely going to pick up Kerrigan and Nova if they do one
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>>97318818
But it's very on brand for 40k
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>>97318818
Bayformers occasionally produces a kino moment
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>>97318845
I still can't get over how fucking dull grey he made Transformers, and it carries through all the movies. If he made just one with some more colour pop I'd bother to go watch that slop
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>>97318778
this big :(
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>>97318815
>In old lore though there wasn't big revolts regarding it and stuff though as far as I know.

Pic related. There are other places in the codex that describe the Deceiver as casting illusions to have all the unwilling walk into the soulforges believing them to be their homes.
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>>97318778
90 marines and vehicles
60 world eaters and vehicles
120 skaven
40 ogor mawtribes
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>>97318858
Have you painted any of your sisters?
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>>97318778
Big
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>>97318858
This is painful to look at because it's so inefficient, could have bought box sets and CPs over the years damn
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>>97318778
For 40k it's like 2 and a half kits, about the same for aos. Quite a bit more for tow.
>>97318157
big birb
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>>97318876
I think she got them as gifts for her birthday and Christmas chief
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>>97318815
>Also this is a separate gripe but I hate most retcon era models for necrons onward except for the canoptek constructs. The old designs for necrons show this sturdy enduring shit with a bit of Egyptian motif and the new shit is all space boats for vehicles and egypt shit first with sturdiness being absent.

This is a gripe I actually agree with. There is a reason for why I still have my old Monolith and I didn't buy the new one.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>97318889
Dude this art is terrible, can't you stick to sexy pics?
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>>97318881
This is how GW preys on family members
Cruel
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Burning of Prospero
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>>97318859
I get there was unwilling ones but it doesn't say they were taking people in chains like the Silent and the King book for nulore does, it just says he was tricking them by forcing his dissenters into the fold first. Which makes a lot more sense than taking them in chains and forcing at gunpoint, since presumably a dissenter would rather die
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>>97318896
>>97318899
Fuck off decalslopper
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>>97318889
Only 3 units need an update, anon.
Beastmaster + one of his beasts as a single unit
Grotesques
Archon's Court.
Everything else is plastic and 100% acceptable in terms of quality imo.

I'd LIKE the old Named Characters back like Kheradruakh but we don't NEED them.
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>>97318889
Is this older art or has JBR actually gotten worse?
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>>97318903
There are plenty of pack members who lurk and post here, best not to accuse us all of being the same Wolf.
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>>97318778
Also have a Gladiator and some Drop pods
Thinking of getting Yriel and his corsairs when they come out too. Unmarked boxes are 2x5 wracks and 1x5 hellions
unfortunately I've been busy with social obligations for the last month and a half, looking forward to getting back into things
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>Titus new detachment rules let him drop any unit anywhere on the battlefield
I see his influence is spreading throughout the Ultramarines
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>>97318909
Magnus did nothing wrong but I still like space vikings.
There's two wolves fighting in me.
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>>97318909
Nobody else here types like a subhuman furfag like you do
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>>97318900
>it just says he was tricking them by forcing his dissenters into the fold first.

It explicitly says that dissenters were lured in the crutches of the faithful, at which point they were seized and delivered to their fate. You can argue if "seizing" involved chains or not but it sure as fuck doesn't describe a scenario where it wasn't a forceful conversion.
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>people here are actually able to quantify their pile of shame or show it in a single photo
Amateurs.
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>>97318926
In nulore it shows gunpoint, literal chains, and being lead into barges. They don't even mention deceit in that book, just forceful conversion
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>>97318930
Have you painted anything at all yet?
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>>97318914
Khinerai are sweet models, I always thought they looked like fun, also some are modeled without panties
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>>97318937
Paint?
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>>97318943
You do realize you will always retain the title of Secondary until you paint your first unit right?
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>>97318920
Two knots? UwU
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>>97318936
Just to understand, how to you visualise a dissenter being "seized and delivered to his fate" if it doesn't involve forceful constriction
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>>97318930
I really don't think this is the flex you think it is lol
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>>97318867
some are painted but i have like 4500 pts of sisters total and i still neee to base them ;_;
>>97318876
i got them all this year all at once anon including a combat patrol.....
>>97318881
friends mostly. my fiance got me celestine !!
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>>97318909
>fondles ur sheath
OwO
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>>97318941
i actually originally bought them to kitbash with my deldar but then I saw they had a really fucking cool faction leader and so I bought the faction
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>>97318920
>Magnus did nothing wrong
this might be true but he's still a loser faggot
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>>97318947
Well to have been deceived into negotiations they at least would have to leave their fortifications, if not disarmed for a neutral meeting. And if a C'tan shows up, obviously it needs no weapons so it has a very distinct advantage, not just for illusion but calling upon any manner of reality warping
The seizing is not something I have issue with, it is the fact that in nulore it is implied they only ever used force and no negotiation because of the Silent King's authority, while in old lore the Deceiver was clearly pulling the strings and making promises he didn't intend to keep which makes more sense. Most people would have rather kill themselves than be captured
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>>97318945
That makes me feel bad, I'll buy another battleforce to feel better.
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>>97318920
magnus did literally and absolutely everything wrong. his fate was deserved
>>97318961
also this. his arrogance was his undoing
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>>97318949
It's not a pile of shame, it's a mountain of pride.
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>>97318967
>>97318983
Based
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>>97318778
25 terminators
7 corsairs
1 wraithlord
Slambo
12 power armor marines
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>>97318574
Skynet in space to Egyptian Space Robots, imo.
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>>97318651
If these guys are doing Dark Heresy, does that mean we will get a Black Crusade game?
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>>97318918
I wanna deepstrike vindicators
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Why the fuck can't GW make interesting successor chapters anymore?

Look at the sloppa inserted here with the Sons of Orar and Scythes of the Emperor and Silver Skulls
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>>97318995
You can.
Up to three of them even in a 2000 point game
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Put this in WIP. How to proceed with camouflage for Raptors Phobos Kill Team?
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>>97319002
They don't want to fuck with the common image of marines.
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>>97318858
Golden grams are based so at least your cereal choice is on point
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>>97319002
All primaris chapters are Ultramarines in different colors that's what makes them boring and feel samey
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>>97318965
>it is the fact that in nulore it is implied they only ever used force and no negotiation because of the Silent King's authority, while in old lore the Deceiver was clearly pulling the strings
We literally have a whole new lore book dedicated to the Deceiver impersonating a Necrontyr noble that was hostile to the C'tans in order to gather around him all dissidents in a fake rebellion.

I'll be honest anon. To me it looks like you already made your mind about not liking the new lore despite not remembering the old one and you are now continuing to move the goalposts to justify your view.

>In the old lore they chose that , in the new one the SK sold everyone
>Ok even in the old lore some didn't agree but it was ambiguous
>Ok the old lore describe the C'tan having to deal with unfaithful but they never mentioned chains
>Ok the old lore describes the unbelievers getting caught by force and delivered to the furnaces but it also mention the Deceiver deceiving people which doesn't happen in the new lore
>Ok new lore actually has the deceiver pulling strings all along...
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>>97318248
100% all will bear the word.
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>>97319024
Holy mid holowhore
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>>97318994
Here's hoping, the chaos path in RT was fun enough but ultimately lacklustre and buggier than the other two. Also hoping they've polished up the renegade options in DH.
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>>97318459
as an Undivided legion, you will be treated as a part of Chaos Space Marines like the other unfavored children. You may receive one (1) named character at some point if you sacrifice your left testicle.
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>>97318778
My basement. Thousands of unpainted space marines.
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>>97319021
>We literally have a whole new lore book dedicated to the Deceiver impersonating a Necrontyr noble that was hostile to the C'tans in order to gather around him all dissidents in a fake rebellion.
I haven't read anything after the Divine and the Infinite apart from that Alpha Legion book where the Deceiver shows up because nu40k doesn't have the appeal that old 40k did for lore where only named characters seem to matter.
>To me it looks like you already made your mind about not liking the new lore
I did. There are some small exceptions (I liked their portrayal somewhat in the infinite and the divine and in battlefleet gothic armada 2) but like I said I would have liked if they made a split between necrons and dark necrons like they did for eldar where un C"tan'd necrons are a minority trying desperately to fight against their former masters instead of just being a plot device mostly.
In nulore the C'tan for some reason treat the silent king as an equal partner and gives him turbo command codes which enables the treachery to begin with which makes zero sense to me. Even less that he smashes it afterward dooming his race to infighting. Nucron lore just reeks of "we need some way to indroduce special characters" where in old lore I never felt that way. Sometimes the execution can be alright but most of the time I think it is lame
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I hate Titus because he represents the subtle but monumental shift from Space Marines being the focus of the setting to the protagonists of the setting
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>>97319066
>to the protagonists of the setting
Always were kid
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>>97319066
I hate titus because he has zero personality. His flaws aren't even his, he just got blamed for stacking paper too high to the celling and riding on 24 inch chrome.
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>>97319058
>I haven't read anything after the Divine and the Infinite
That's literally the book in question.

>I did.
Then please just stop trying to make up things about the old lore that were never true.
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>>97318952
>still need to base them
Today I will remind them that AK texture pastes come in monstrous pots for cheap
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>>97319002
a lot of ultramarine successors are nothing more than feeder chapters used to replenish the ranks when half the chapter gets eaten every six months. they're not supposed to be interesting.
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>>97319079
>That's literally the book in question.
I don't recall that from that book, I only remember that he disguised as Omegon in that one book with the Alpha Legion, and some other shard was in the crypt they were trying to get to for the Infinite and the Divine but I honestly don't remember the context for it was since it was years ago that I read it. Actually didn't that dynasty have a rep for being mad or something? Anyway, no I will complain that nulore isn't to my liking. You act like I thought it was shit before even knowing what it was when it was the opposite. I only even got into this hobby in the last days of 7th but I immediately liked them in DoW compared to the other stuff I had seen like the reddit Trazyn dicksucking
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>>97319024
I'd like her more if she had canonical fanglip
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>>97319008
why bother with camo with all that shiny metal giving them away?
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>>97319066
they always were
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>>97319066
Space Marine 1 Titus was cool
SM 2 Titus was lame they way neutered him and gave more attention to the supporting cast than the main character. That Titus was kind of a bitch the way he just yes manned everything any other character told him
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>>97319103
shut up retard
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>>97319066
Space marine game. Space marine setting. Unironically if you aren't at least neutral on space marines wtf are you doing here?
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>>97318325
>Necrons never should have been humanized and should have stayed a scientific lovecrafitan force to contrast with chaos
feels like that's too similar to tyranids. I mean Tyranids aren't scientific but they're also a force composed of mostly mindless drones without any sort of humanity that just destroy everything
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>>97319100
>I immediately liked them in DoW
This explain everything.
Anon, DoW Necron were fanfiction. They were good fanfiction. But they absolutely were fanfiction compared to the 3rd edition codex. Which is why almost everything you mentioned about old necron lore it turned out to be wrong.

It's not that nulore is not of your liking, the uncomfortable truth is that actual lore is not of your liking. Have you ever actually read the 3rd edition codex? Or any book that featured necrons from that time?
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>>97319123
you should try interacting with the hobby in other ways than video games and youtube shorts
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When I think of chaos space marines this little guy is what first comes to mind for me.
Do have something similar with another faction and model?
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>>97319121
go google how to paint camo ffs, what sort of responses are you expecting here?
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>>97318995
>run orbital assault force
>put vindicator in reserves
>deep strike with line of sight on your opponent's warlord
>spend 1CP on Tactical Decapitation if he's embedded in a unit
>add 1 to hit rolls making you effectively BS 2+
>reroll wound rolls of a 1 in case your massive S14 misfires
That's a valid method of assassination. Not an unreasonable way to spend 185 points
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>>97319066
this game is and has always been for space marine, more importantly ultramarine, chads. if you pick any other faction ( and now don't field Titus ) you need to accept you're playing a side character. ultrachads fucking won.
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>>97319154
tyranids, this thing
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>>97319131
>I mean Tyranids aren't scientific but they're also a force composed of mostly mindless drones without any sort of humanity that just destroy everything
Tyranids are closer to orks than to oldcrons
>xenos race that has psychic powers that doesn't come from individual will
>gets stronger from fighting/eating each other
>even fights/eats each other
>token race that jobs before chaos shows up as true threat
>weird innate understanding of some technologies and a cunning but brutal intellect
>>97319133
Yes I have read the codex.
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>>97319171
>Yes I have read the codex.
Doesn't look like it. Is your knowledge about Tyranids and Orks from Dawn of War too?
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>>97319175
It just seems like you are trying to gaslight at this point chief.
Yes I have read the codex and yes orks and tyranids are basically the same concept, one is just "beast" alien and the other is "dumb tough" alien. Outside of that they are way more similar to each other than necrons were to tyranids
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>>97319169
A classic. For me it's this guy.
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>>97319159
I posted the picture. "Shut up retard" was not me. Most of the silver will become black. And the experience of anon is worth more than random google shit.
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>>97319171
Orks actually have personality though. There's nothing mysterious to them at all. You can even sort of reason with them under some circumstances. Tyranids are similar to Oldcrons in that they're both just this mysterious existential threat that comes to destroy everything filled with chaff that has no personality at all but to kill.
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Wtf kind of Space Marine is this
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Why the fuck do devastators have 4+ ballistic skill on all their profiles?
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>>97319245
Heavy, tourist-kun
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>>97319245
If they don't move it becomes 3+.
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>>97319230
Orks are the Tyranids of our galaxy. Just because they talk doesn't make it much different.
Here are some other similarities:
>horde based melee faction
>led by warboss/synapse creatures that collapse the army when killed
>infest space hulks
>such a vast species they are known to have spread outside known space
I could go on. But orks can be written scary, tyranids can only be written one way. So Necrons are not metal tyranids, tyranids are less versatile orks is my thesis. It sucks because lictors look cool and if the whole army looked that way I'd like Tyranids but instead they just look kinda dumb to me. So again, orks without SOVL
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>>97319245
Sit still nigga.
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>>97319264
nice knives anon
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>>97319154
Can't be bothered to find a picture, but the old noise marines with the guitar.
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>>97319259
I think it does, at least insofar as their role in the fluff of the setting as a faction. Each Ork has a personality, even if they tend to be a bit samey each Ork is an individual, and Orks have characters with motivations. You could write a story with an Ork underling betraying his boss, or having a rivalry with an Imperial character, or being a pirate merc for hire etc. Also half the time Orks are played as comic relief as much as they are a serious threat.

The same cannot be said of Tyranids/Oldcrons. Even the only characters of Oldcrons that had personalities, the C'tan, their motivations were the same as the Tyranids, to devour all life.
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Do you prefer the realistic, gritty, soldier look for gun nuns that GW has been pushing, or the idealized and sexualized models with facial scars look that most non-GW handled 40k media goes for?
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>>97319304
40k as a whole is a silly stylized franchise. There should be a happy medium of "attractive but not anime waifu" and "gritty but not slobbernob ugly"
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>>97319304
Oh definitely the idealized sexy nuns with guns
The whole point of them is to be over-the-top zealot nuns in a heavy metal kind of way and to me that means they should unreasonably hot for their position
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>>97319304
The grog in me says idealized since that's what they were originally portrayed as, but the grimdark enthusiast says gritty because :there is no beauty, only war" unless you're a filthy pointed eared xenos or a daemonic freak. I hate fetish shit, but SoB were totally fetish shit back in the day, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
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>>97319304
Sororitas should look hot but also insane. They should have crazy eyes.
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>>97319334
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>>97319304
Sexy nuns
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>>97319321
This. IMO, just as marines are the peak of masculine fantasy (huge roid monsters who smash shit with chainsaw swords in football pads) SoB should be the peak feminine fantasy (beautiful, dainty-looking warrior goddesses who can throw down with marines while still looking beautiful doing it).
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>>97319334
>SoB were totally fetish shit back in the day
True.
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>>97319264
Nice work o&tfag
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>>97319232
https://em4miniatures.com/products/space-rangers
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>>97319337
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>>97319337
>Sororitas should look hot but also insane. They should have crazy eyes.
So Argenta from RT? She's described as the most beautiful woman in your crew, but she's also crazy. She sounds like she's getting off sexually whenever she kills a xenos or heretic. Ironically, one of the more empathetic individuals too, despite being the most fervent to the Imperial creed.
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>>97319321
The animu waifu look should be preserved for Eldar.
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>>97319381
>being the most fervent to the Imperial creed
And yet she never blams you in the head for all the overtly chaotic shit you can do
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>>97319381
>She sounds like she's getting off sexually whenever she kills a xenos or heretic.
That's the hottest thing about her.
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>>97319381
>So Argenta from RT?
Yes please
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>>97319399
>Enemies of the Emperor, BE UNDONE!
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>>97319398
Because as a Rogue Trader, the Emperor gave you a super special awesome, chocolatey fudge-coated super permission slip to be a heretical little fucker.
To an extent.
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>>97319304
Idealized, duh.

Also I use their whole miracle and faith thing to headcanon that they have some sort of passive faith psychic field the same way orks have in their waaaghs that make the sisters pretty by default cause that's how the living saints also tend to look like.
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I like Sisters that like Sisters.
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>>97319431
So like IRL nuns?
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>>97319412
Nice headcanon, but no. If a sororitas saw anyone - even a RT - straight up accept a deal with a daemon as you do at the start of a heretic run, there would be blamming. The real reason why is that as a starting companion she has a lot of sidequest content and unique dialogue the devs probably didn't want thrown in the bin even if you go with chaos, so both her and the inquisitor stay around far longer than they really should. At least the inq has a valid reason, Argenta's boss fight really should happen much much earlier.
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i like sisters too
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Is there any reason to not run 3 Hammerfall Bunkers to deep strike into the opponent's side of the board?
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>>97319440
That's why I said to an extent.
Deals with xenos? Distasteful but okay.
Deals with heretics? Extremely sus but allowed as means to an end.
Deals with daemons directly? Absolutely not and she should have betrayed you if you started down that path.
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>>97319458
They're too big to fit on a well-spaced out enemy's side of the board.
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>>97319465
>Deals with daemons directly? Absolutely not and she should have betrayed you
Right, that's what I'm saying... You do this right at the start of the game, have you played it?
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>>97319409
>>97319406
>>97319381
The only thing about Argenta is that she pushes the Sisters of Battle are celibate myth. Your RT considers her attractive and there are some lines to flirt with her early on, but it never goes anywhere, since there's only room for the Emperor in her heart.
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>>97319458
That would be the only way to make the Hammerfall Bunker viable but it's still kind of dogshit because of BS 4+ at 175 points
For that price range you could pick a Gladiator Lancer, Redemptor Dreadnought or Vindicator and do substantially more damage while also keeping a more useful model on the field after the first phase
Or alternatively you could pick a Firestrike Servo-Turrets which will do slightly less damage but fulfill the same purpose as the Hammerfall bunker at 100 points less
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>>97319491
That's just because the devs are faggots
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Do the Sororitas not know the Lectitio Divinitas was written by a traitor and that the Emperor hates being worshipped as a god?
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>>97319511
no, GW made them remove a fully planned romance for her
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>>97319491
I want a 40k game where you're the only male on a Sister controlled shrine world and you have to repopulate with them all. Haramase Simulator 40k edition.
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>>97319521
nobody knows either of those things except for the living primarchs
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>>97319521
The joke is that the ecclesiarchy is chaos possessed and extra legal but the emperor is a chaos god and logan is seething because daddy is coming to bitchslap him.
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>>97319511
The voice actress confirmed that she had voiced romance lines, but it was removed late in development at the insistence of GW. It's one of the reasons why her personal story is so disjointed, a lot of stuff got cut.
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>>97319525
And some custodes, and a load of traitor marines, and maybe a dreadnought or two
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>>97319521
It's almost like the foundations of the Imperium have been lost to ten thousand years of religious dogma, constant wars and intentional misdirection.
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>>97319491
"All sisters are celibate" may be a myth but with the level of devotion required it makes sense that she's not interested in pleasures of the flesh. That said, I too wanted to romance her, because she's the best.
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>>97319522
>>97319533
Okay then that's because GW are faggots but this one we already knew
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I want any scalpers who post here to know that if you price the thing I'm looking for at too much of a premium, it just means I'm gonna buy the parent kit which means I get MORE stuff I want at a cheaper differential. You are only notmaking any sales when you do this shit.
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>>97319521
If they did, it'd be one of those buried dirty heretical secrets that only the abbesses would know and that anyone else who found out would be killed for.
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>>97319545
>she's the best
Funny way of spelling Idira
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels
+ DETACHMENT: Orbital Assault Force
+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts
+
+ WARLORD: Char2: Lion El'Jonson
+ ENHANCEMENT:
+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 8
+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (1x2) + (3x4) - Assassination: 2 Characters
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

CHARACTER

Char1: 1x Azrael (125 pts)
1 with Lion's Wrath, The Sword of Secrets

Char2: 1x Lion El'Jonson (315 pts)
1 with Arma Luminis, Fealty, Warlord

OTHER DATASHEETS

5x Deathwing Knights (250 pts)
• 4x Deathwing Knight
4 with Mace of absolution
• 1x Knight Master
1 with Great Weapon of the Unforgiven
• Watcher in the Dark

5x Deathwing Knights (250 pts)
• 4x Deathwing Knight
4 with Mace of absolution
• 1x Knight Master
1 with Great Weapon of the Unforgiven
• Watcher in the Dark

5x Deathwing Knights (250 pts)
• 4x Deathwing Knight
4 with Mace of absolution
• 1x Knight Master
1 with Great Weapon of the Unforgiven
• Watcher in the Dark

1x Land Raider Redeemer (270 pts)
1 with Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon

1x Land Raider Redeemer (270 pts)
1 with Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon

1x Land Raider Redeemer (270 pts)
1 with Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon
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>>97319577
thanks for the spam
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>>97319337
Insanity is hot.

>>97319545
>"All sisters are celibate" may be a myth but with the level of devotion required it makes sense that she's not interested in pleasures of the flesh

Yes and no, but nothing happens in a vacuum. If the ecclesiarchy got wind that one of their battle sisters had good chemistry with an RT, they would push hard for a romance, organizational views on celibacy and "brides/daughters of the Emperor" stuff be damned. They would love to get their hooks in an RT. If they're lucky, maybe sororitas gets knocked up with the RT's future heir.
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What would GW need to do in order to have Eldar be respected by the wider 40k community, rather than be viewed as a joke?
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i got a deathwatch intercessor from the mini of the month in december. can i paint it red and run it with blood angels or are the markings on it distinct to that chapter? i dont know a thing about space marines clearly. i only know orks.
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>>97319609
firing their writers would probably do it
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>>97319609
They just need to be more sexualized and openly fuckable so people would want to fuck them more
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>>97319577
Two things:
>1
You forgot that you can only bring 500 points in reserve forehead, you need to do this in ultras so you can take the unit that lets you do 3 redeploys.
>2
I'm going to screen you turn one and you'll lose because you can't deploy your army.
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>>97319609
There's nothing grimdark or even cool about the Eldar. They're gay space elves.
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>>97319615
filing off the chest symbol and putting a different left shoulder pad on it is a simple job
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It’s a little crazy to think that in 2017 the reclamation of the 500 Worlds was introduced and it took 9 years before GW made a campaign about it. Better late than never I guess, though I suppose the setting might inch forward again.
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>>97318778
>Only 2 minis on sprue for now... lotta primed though
>GF is going to actually drop off my HH battleforce (for 40k CSM) next weekend.

Also here is the paint scheme actually on minis for my homebrew CSM. I'll link the picture of these guys and the completed Armi/wardog
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>>97319615
First, that's an infiltrator, you can tell because of the antenna helmet and the lack of shin armor.
Second, that guy has an ultra shoulderpad on one side and a death watch on the other, while marines can keep the deathwatch shoulderpad if they served on the deathwatch and came back, you'd have to shave off the other shoulder.
Third, most units are now locked to multiples of five, so having one extra guy doesn't really help you with anything.
What you can do however, is put it in a bigger base and run it as a Phobos Liutenant with Combi-weapon, every marine army needs one of those.
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>>97319638
>>97319646
Not bad, anon. Work on your camera focus though.
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>>97319615
As other anon said, any =I= symbols and the shoulder pad are truly what distinguish it as Deathwatch and they can be filed off/replaced. As your pic there, they also tend to have some more speccy gear, fancy backpacks and helmets, pouches and nades on the chestplate - no need to remove these but perhaps consider making him a sergeant or comms specialist type.
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Oh god oh fuck do I make my chaos marines Creations of Bile or Red Corsairs
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>>97319573
Beyond Argenta, there are no good choices. Uggos and xenos and fags. Wtf were they thinking?
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>>97319654
Make em a custom warband so you can play them however you want.
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>>97319651
Yeah I'm a bit baked right now so my grip ain't steady.
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>>97319609
Who cares what the 'wider community' thinks?
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>>97319659
>Wtf were they thinking?
That they were making a 40k game first and a dating sim last?
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Is 40k uncslop?
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>>97319663
LMAO
W
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I wish my tolerance wasn't through the roof these days and I could still get nice and zooted, still fun to fry a little tho
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>>97319626
>>97319640
>>97319653
thanks anons. i think i’ll put him on a bigger base and do some filing.
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>>97319533
WHERE IS THE LEAK SO WE CAN ADD IT BACK IN
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>>97319686
Yeah I just have to space out my consumption, and I've managed to keep it pretty cheap
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>>97319654
I started my chaos army as Black Legion. Now I paint them however I want and it's all lore friendly.
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>>97319609
Whatever they're doing with the Asur, do that. Asur is up there with the Empire as one of the most popular races in Fantasy. Sure, they can be pricks, but they can back it up with actual feats and competence.
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>>97319698
Yeah, good to do that nice and early. I didn't and ended up here, even taking a solid two week break doesn't do much for me... But my liver is also fucked from drinking, so that might be playing a part in it? This is the year to cut right back, fix my liver and hopefully be back to some normalcy
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>>97319707
This isn’t a bad idea, since I have some Khorne Berzerkers and a handful of Plague Marines I made from nu-Mk III. I also have some of the Emp’s Kids guys because I like their dynamic poses for any warband, honestly.
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>>97319609
I think Eldar are supposed to be disrespected. They're a shittake on elves. They exist purely to be an arrogant, better-than-you git and then suffer a humiliating death. Also, I think the fact that they're pretty benevolent to their own citizens automatically puts them on many fans shitlist, since most people believe that the only reason xenos exists to justify the Imperium. Sure, the Imperium is bad, but have you seen any of the other major factions?
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>>97319609
Make Eldar more like High Elves and Dark Eldar more like Dark Elves. Make them a glorious rival empire forever fractured and at odds with itself.
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>>97319609
Eldar would need to actually be fun and competent like their Fantasy counterparts and we all know GW will never make that happen, Eldar exist to be NPC jobbers who are only good for porn
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>>97319304
I wish there was more art that featured on the clash between their engineered angelic beauty, and when people are as zealous as the SoB are presented as, it's unsettling at least and terrifying at most.
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>>97319724
>>97319717
It really is kind of weird that eldar are the jobbers more often than the cartoon villain dark eldar are.
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>>97319154
Damn I have this guy unpainted somewhere
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>>97319710
Fucking retard.
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>>97319728
That's probably because 40k is a setting that rewards being a piece of shit, if you aren't being evil or morally bankrupt the universe fucks you over. And even then you can still get screwed
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As someone who had a single Sisters model, an inquisitor and a bunch of grey knights with both the Hereticus and Malleus codexes when I was a teenager 15 years ago, I think the reason Deathwatch failed as an army is because it should have been marketed as Alienhunters. This is also why GK are kind of sucking and failing as an army right now since they were better as Daemonhunters. I used to jack off thinking about how cool it would be when Codex: Alienhunters gets released and has all these deathwatch dudes with alien weapons along with Aliens pressganged into service by radical inquistors to hunt down other aliens and weird bounty hunters and rogue traders.

The Agents of the Imperium codex is just a weird mash up of a lot of those things but you can also take sisters and grey knights. Still missing my ideal of alien mercenaries and guys using alien weapons though.

>>97319615
I think somewhere there was a lore blorb about deathwatch guys returning to their chapters and using their chapter colours again but also keeping the DW shoulderpads, yeah.
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>>97319628
>9 years ago
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>>97319609
Just make them like whfb high elves
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>>97319638
These are cool kitbashes
>homebrew csm
Glad you included this because they look like they could easily be one of the "primitive tribal" loyalists. Possibly needs more stars of chaos to make them less barbarian space marines and more obviously followers of the dark gods.
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>>97319671
It's still an rpg anon.
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>>97319773
>all these deathwatch dudes with alien weapons along with Aliens pressganged into service
Yeah this dream of yours just doesn't fit with the Imperial creed, ain't going to happen. Sure there are radical inquisitors with xenos pets/allies and they may on occasion hunt other xenos for more selfish purposes, but the puritans and the Deathwatch simply aren't going to stoop to that. You're always free to convert your own radical and retinue and counts-as whatever's most fitting, though.

>>97319790
>csm armour bits
>classic csm backpiece spikes
>HH-era armour in 40K
Can't say I agree, they scream chaos to me.
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>>97319717
>I think Eldar are supposed to be disrespected
This is something a lot of people don't understand. Eldar are SUPPOSED to suck. They're meant to mirror typical 'good guy' faction caring about themselves, and why that gets you nowhere in 40k. They're like LotR Elves in that their age is over, but instead of gently sailing West to paradise they're being slaughtered en masse and fed to a torture god. They aren't meant to be cool or compelling or even competent. They're going extinct and nothing can stop that.
Wanting Eldar to be 'good' or popular is inherently against what makes them Eldar.
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>>97319773
Like half of Deathwatch lore comes from the tabletop RPG focused on them and not all of it directly transferred into their codex supplement. I still forget what was written by GW and what was just FFG canon.
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>Buy 10 paints, get the most expensive one for 'free'.
Excluding the fact that this deal is shit, why do they advertise this 'deal' on any painting related article? It's utterly bizzare.
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>>97319638
An karanir thanagor
neat models anon
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>>97319810
>Yeah this dream of yours just doesn't fit with the Imperial creed, ain't going to happen. Sure there are radical inquisitors with xenos pets/allies and they may on occasion hunt other xenos for more selfish purposes, but the puritans and the Deathwatch simply aren't going to stoop to that.
That's why radical inquisitors with daemonhosts couldn't run with GKs in the daemonhunter codex I know the rules but the reason it was cool was the possibility of it existing, and then it just never did. The DW couldn't carry a book all on their own and the radical/puritan divide between inquisitors is what allowed you to flesh out and build out your armies in one way or another.
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>>97319812
Are Tau supposed to be on the rise then and heading toward supplanting the Imperium as the next inheritors of the galaxy? Is that their place, as the humble hobbits of the universe waiting for the end of the age of man?
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>>97319818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV46qFZrOzk

I remember being absolutely hammered at this time literally 10 years ago listening to this on repeat. The Lordaeronian language is possibly the only good thing Blizzard did for worldbuilding, while fucking up everything else.
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>>97319831
I was gonna say they kept genn based as hell but remembered they had him beg the undead to help him retake gilneas from the scarlet crusade and then abdicated the throne to his daughter for no reason
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>>97319826
>Are Tau supposed to be on the rise then and heading toward supplanting the Imperium as the next inheritors of the galaxy?
Lol no, they're the 'Young naive morons completely out of depth' faction.
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>>97319834
I dreamed world of warcraft implemented a crossdressing mechanic then when I woke up I remembered it was actually a real thing kek.
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>>97319824
>DW couldn't carry a book all on their own
They don't have to, because Imperial soup exists. I personally have an inquisitor with stormtrooper army and a side detachment of DW. And again, you can make radical minis, nobody is stopping you.
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>>97319304
I like them being sexy but really unhinged/evil. Not chaos style evil, but they should go hard on the Imperium's repressive and sadistic tendencies.
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>>97319826
Tau represent a small technologically inclined empire, of which there are many on the imperium's fringe. The Kroot subfaction, and the Vespid kill team, represent even smaller polities (vespids being entirely under tau rule, kroot being semi-autonomous) that would not be able to resist or stand up the imperium realistically.

The Tau within their specific lore are special because the Eldar helped uplift them both as a hope for the future kind of thing as well as being a force they can use to distract imperial invasions away from eldar worlds which might otherwise be attacked, such as maiden worlds.

Kill team dropped the ball by being so closely tied to refreshes for old 40k kits, because otherwise we might see more of these 'small alien races' like the Hrud who aren't powerful enough to warrant a full scale army but Kill Team Hrud would be a bunch of time alien guys getting taken out by the Deathwatch.
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>>97319875
Sauce?
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>>97319863
What's stopping me is the lack of rule support for Alienhunters and the general lack of rule support for DW using alien weapons except the phase blade. In one lore snippet it's mentioned they have a force shield they use in battles which was taken from the eldar and holds a bunch of soul stones as a fuck you to the eldar. There is no way to represent such a thing sans rules, even if the kitbash would be cool, because GW never made the Alienhunters fleshed out the way Daemonhunters were.
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>>97319881
>the Eldar helped uplift them
That was never confirmed, and was stupid in the first place.
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>>97319790
>>97319810
Yeah they're more like an Ashen Claws type setup.
>>97319818
Yeah that was my initial idea with a bit of Skyrim Draugr/armor thrown in there.
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>>97319812
>Wanting Eldar to be 'good' or popular is inherently against what makes them Eldar.
>t. marineplayer
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>>97318248
Lorgar and Perturabo seem to be the main villains of the new Scouring series
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>>97318353
The new Fabricator-General might be a woman, their name is Xasandera Chalet
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>>97318315
I had a Mandela effect the other day when I realized Triarch Praetorians have been around since 5th ed, I thought they were added later
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>>97319895
>confirmed
Why do fat retards always post shit like this. No fucking way it wasn't confirmed you idiot, it's like questioning whether the emperor actually exists because no one has seen him in 40k, it's implied by every bit of text because it would be shit storytelling if you had to tell every 80 IQ mouthbreather "yes, Eldard came out and said he in fact is the daddy of all the ethereals after having mind sex with this Q'orl queen".
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>>97318574
Thing is, the original Necron codex actually did reference some necrons still having their minds. The retcon was the C'tan being shattered
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successor chapters are gay and retarded and im tired of pretending otherwise......ive never given a shit about why they are the "super spechul mareens the come from x main chapter" it feels very fanfiction OC tier to me personally....

anytime i even see the words successor chapter i immediately mentally checkout and skip all further fluff abt them. if that makes me a gay secondary so be it !
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>>97318459
I agree that Erebus, Honsou and Talos should all have their own character models and no clue why GW hadn't done it yet. And CSM lacks any kind of tacticool guys so it would be tacticool if Alpha Legion got a sniper guy. But in 40k while space marines are the focus overwhelmingly, paradoxically unlike in 30k where there are no xenos to neglect the space marines have a lot more unique flavor while in 40k you have to be in the popular club like space wolves or death guard to be properly fleshed out.
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>>97319945
>all those full stops
> !
Why do you type like this?
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>>97319002
*blocks your path*
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>>97319945
Need more repentia art
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>>97318344
What the fuck is wrong with lesbians? Why is there no one that is normal about women?
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>>97319888
It's a PoV vid of the SoB from the Lost Crusade vidya forcing herself onto the guardsman character. Still interested?
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>>97319908
Anon, what actual value is there in Eldar becoming more popular? They have a full tabletop range now, they have strong rules, and there's nothing else that would drive up a xenos faction's popularity.
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>>97319945
>it feels very fanfiction OC tier to me personally....
that's literally the point
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>>97319963
Sapphic is a helluva drug.
>Why is there no one that is normal about women?
Tbf, gay male relationships are also rife with drama, then you have the cringe straight normies parading their sex lives on the internet dressed up as "trying for baby", and/or staying in terrible relationships where they hate each other... Humans are just fucked up
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>>97319975
>Forcing herself on
Post a link. Please.
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>>97319970
I thought the phoenix lords were mostly supposed to be in hiding or something.
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>>97319970
My question is why is Asurmen the only Eldar who uses wrist-mounted guns
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>>97319963
>Why is there no one that is normal about women?
Psychology. The same reason why Chinese men give up when faced with difficulties or indian men are weird bollywood cringe. American women are raised with everyone patting their asses and telling them how great their insane delusions are, so they turn into fucking weirdos and then hit adulthood and wonder why they're getting arrested for protesting cars or something stupid. If you raise children spoiled they grow up retarded.
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>>97319976
>Anon, what actual value is there in Eldar becoming more popular?
Clean 40k reputation of being one trick pony at this very moment.
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>>97319987
Magikal3D over on Kemono.
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>>97319990
No? Sometimes they die in a backwater location so it takes a while for them to resurrect, like Irilleth. The Shining Spear one is in exile
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>>97319975
It looked like something along those lines, that's why I asked...
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>>97320003
>>97319987
https://rule34video.com/video/4142247/sister-of-battle-no-wm-magikal3d-4k60fps/
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I kind of miss upgrade and conversion packs
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>>97319970
Eldrad fits the plotting manipulative role that they give Eldar; Asurmen's the honorable cool guy who sets up soup kitchens for humies, he can't be that guy
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>>97319002
The focus shifted from successor chapters being equally as important in the galaxy as their progenitors. Now it's the original 9 being all defining and the only ones that matter, successors became children instead of splits. Like always, blame primarch slop and the retards who eat it up.
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>>97319002
Who is the most popular Ultramarine successor chapter anyway, never really seen a conclusive answer on that
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>>97319990
They just aren't really important. Even the Eldar Codex doesn't really say much about their current situations. They show up to a fight, typically die, then get revived and move on.
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>>97320000
Thanks for illustrating my point zero-reading-comprehension-kun.
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>>97320029
As a kitbashfag I hate the disappearance of those packs. They still do them for 'munda so it's definitely possible even with the new monopose style models, they just... Choose not to? I don't get it.

Worst case I've personally seen is the fucking tempestus scions box. 5 dudes, one sprue regular and one command sprue. As someone who made an army with three full squads I have so much wasted fucking plastic in the form of those command sprues - they could have just sold it separately as an upgrade pack, and either done two regular sprues to a box or reduced the box cost?? Wtf is this asinine shit
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>>97320003
>>97320026
Based and blessed, emps protect
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>>97320049
You didn't have a point you had a sentence with poor grammar and I tried to explain to you if you spoil a child as american women or chinese men are you get fucked up adults when they realize they're not a special sparklepony.
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>>97320062
>he doubles down in retardation
You are a dog. Bark for me.
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>>97320045
In terms of plot importance and just amount of fluff they've gotten, I'd rank them in order as Jain-Zar, Maugan Ra, Karandras, Asurmen, Fuegan, Baharroth, and Lykhis. Baharroth for some reason never got anything, even Drastanta might be higher
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>>97320053
>They still do them for 'munda
Love those, especially when they have more esoteric weapons like combi-needlers and harpoon guns
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>>97319976
>Anon, what actual value is there in Eldar becoming more popular?
It's not about getting Eldar more popular, but more about satysfying demand for Eldar content.
Because even in their current state in the setting, people still buy their models and their books.
And it's actually reasonable because despite 40k being posturing as human-centred setting humanity written very poorly in 40k, while almost all xeno faction have something interesting to dwell in.
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>>97319963
The issue is, lesbian marriages have the highest rate of divorce. Followed by straight marriage. With gay men having the lowest divorce rate.
Proving the ancient wisdom: mo' bitches, mo' problems.
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>>97320062
>you had a sentence with poor grammar
>proceeds to word vomit in one big run on sentence
Mmhm, right
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>>97319952
type like what ? its just regular typing abt how i dont like successor chapters.....
>>97319954
ur wish is my command anon !
>>97319979
i suppose thats why i dont like them...to much bullshit to keep up with i prefer just keeping up with main chapters. successors muddy the waters and make a never ending rabbit hole is fluff no one (me) cares abt
>>97319963
bloodplay is hot and romantic
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What does the Emperor think of Peak Fiction?
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>>97320087
I bet you post
>too long
When faced with a paragraph, doncha boy?
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>>97320094
gas homosuck fags
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>>97320097
What was the origin of this argument I just got here.
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>>97320097
Ive posted multiple paragraphs in this very thread. Just saiyan, glass houses, throwing stones and all that jazz
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>>97320102
like.. I know this was spoken by an inbred retard but I do agree with him.
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>>97320088
> ?
>.....
> !
Like that! Like a... *shudders* boomer!!
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>>97320103
Decalfag is starting shit again
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>>97320104
>saiyan
Fuck off Virginia
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>>97320120
Im the one asking the question you stupid bitch
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>>97320123
Huh? My little newgen...
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>>97320081
>mfw divorced lesbian
>mfw first marriage was toxic and dramatic asf
i can believe we have the highest divorce rate.....over the years ive dated some absolute unhinged psychos.....
>>97320115
its just the way i type i dont pay that much attention to it...altho i suppose by this thread standards id be a boomer since i turned 40 this year..(my youngest kid is 20) im not kidding when i say im auntie status
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>>97320123
HUNTING DAEMONS WITH LITTLE ACOLYTES IN SPANDEX, I SEE
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>>97320143
I bet prior to divorce sex was rated below 5/10
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>>97319945
Fair. But any faction can have OC if their player is autistic enough. I suppose the marine saturation is a bit tiresome.
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>>97320026
>Sister is going to fuck the xeno fetish out of you
Bless anon. Thanks.
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>>97320143
Was really just being a goof about the typing, but also fishing for an age. Penned you as younger desu with the nails did and all, based and funpilled (hate seeing people growing older and giving up on fun expressions of creativity/self like that)
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>>97320088
Is it specifically marine srhat brows you? Any faction has cringe OC out the wasp if their player is autistic enough.
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>>97320166
unironically a 2/10. she was a dead fish in bed
>>97320171
as a marine player so many divergent chapters is extremely tiresome.....non marine special snowflakes are based and cool and their fluff actually means something unlike the dozens/hundreds of just canon successor chapters there are ugh.
>>97320183
oh lol 40 is still decently young i think its not like im a literal boomer disconnected from reality i just spend a ton of time working
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>>97320201
>as a marine player so many divergent chapters is extremely tiresome.....non marine special snowflakes are based and cool and their fluff actually means something unlike the dozens/hundreds of just canon successor chapters there are ugh.
"Based and Cool" is subjective. Let people make their own stuff be it successor chapter, custom craftworlds or guard regiments. I'll take someone who put love, care and pride in their oc donut steel /yourdudes/ over someone playing a canon army any second of any day of any week. But to each their own.
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>>97320209
Nta I think that’s what they said. It’s just a specific ick for marines. C’est la vie.
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>>97320217
It is, but I see no reason why anything needs to be specific. But we all can agree to disagree in the long run. Life is short, do what you love, be a decent person to people who deserve it.
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>>97320196
marines specifically bc theres like 8(?)loyal chapters, then the 8(?) Traitor chapters + custodes + grey knights + assassins + millitarum.....it becomes so much so fast with just the main canon stuff b4 even a single successor chapter is mentioned....
>>97320209
different strokes. i like player oc chapters and dudes, hate the official ones
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>>97320077
>but more about satysfying demand for Eldar content.
There is no actual desire for that beyond models for tabletop. Voidscarred only got 2nd as an advertisement, not on actual merit. The book was practically forgotten in a week.
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>>97320201
>unironically a 2/10. she was a dead fish in bed
Another little piece of evediences to my theory.
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Reminder that it was the threat of the orks that forced the Emperor to launch the Great Crusades, bargain with chaos, and make all the other moral compromises that eventually congealed into the most brutal regime imaginable.
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>>97320224
>Voidscarred only got 2nd as an advertisement, not on actual merit.
[citation needed]
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>>97320196
Did sallyfag have a stroke and die while writing this?
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>>97320233
It was only discussed for a few days after it released because Eldar fans were assmad about it having gay characters, as if their shitty faction wasn't already the gayest in the setting.
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>>97320223
>different strokes. i like player oc chapters and dudes, hate the official ones
Yeah, I misread what you said and I will admit to it and apologize. I'm a huge fan of custom stuff. I have a few SM custom successors, a custom Kabal, a few Renegade armies of custom-ness, a Dynasty and uh stuff for other games too. Creativity is my favorite thing and probably the sole thing keeping me interested in 40k, even if everything is slowly being turned into Hero and Detachment Hammer.I'm an idiot and again, apologize for my lack of reading comprehension.
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>>97320234
being a stroke victim would explain the edge highlighting
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>>97320074
None of them are important, anon. Their book series got cancelled for a reason.
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>>97320249
Okay Statler and Waldorf.
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>>97320249
>ignoring the bad Latin.
I couldn’t make it past the thick freehand.
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>>97320274
Yeah man, we've totally had riveting conversations about the book here ever since it dropped. Twitter has just not stopped talking about it. It definitely has been a super big hit with people begging for more.
You're asking for proof that nobody talks about something outside of shitposts, when there's literally never been a genuine discussion regarding the book itself here and twitter only cares about the fact it has gay protags. Grow up and pick a different faction if Eldar irrelevance affects you that much.
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>>97320302
>You're asking for proof that nobody talks about something outside of shitposts,
No anon I want to see anything worthy to read about how discussion of product on /tg/ corelates with this product sales.
Surely you have at least something beyond "none talked about it here so book didn't sell".
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>>97320196
I thought this was grey plastic from the thumbnail, until the peanut gallery here started picking it apart. Goofy freehand and highlighting aside what a horrendously drab colour palette, eesh. Choices were certainly made
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>>97320224
In fact /tg/ is the only board that really pushes it and they largely only do so ironically. On the other hand you still see people buying The Infinite and the Divine.
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>>97319622
Eldar literally the last grimdark thing in the setting
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>>97320196
kino as always
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>>97320352
Stop trying so hard to be a contrarian
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>>97320325
Anon, nobody discusses it. Not just here, but everywhere. The book was a colossal flop which only ever got attention because the protags are literal faggots.
Face it, Eldar only really exist as a tabletop faction.
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can anyone take a look at this list im running for casual games with friends/other beginners?.....ive settled on this list until 500 worlds comes out, then ill add tidus and the wardens since they look cool and im going to pre-order the collectors edition

Ultramarines - Ultras - [2000 pts]
# ++ Army Roster ++ [2000 pts]
Battle Size: Strike Force (2000 Point limit)
Detachment: Gladius Task Force

## Epic Hero [575 pts]
Marneus Calgar in Armour of Antilochus [140 pts]
Roboute Guilliman [340 pts] (Warlord)
Uriel Ventris [95 pts]

## Character [135 pts]

Captain [80 pts]
Lieutenant [55 pts]

## Battleline [155 pts]

Assault Intercessor Squad [75 pts]
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant: Hand Flamer, Thunder Hammer
• 4x Assault Intercessors
Intercessor Squad [80 pts]
• 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Bolt Rifle, Thunder Hammer
• 4x Intercessor

## Infantry [835 pts]

Company Heroes [105 pts]
• 1x Ancient
• 1x Company Champion
• 1x Company Veteran w/ Bolt Rifle
• 1x Company Veteran w/ Heavy Bolter
Eradicator Squad [180 pts]
• 3x Eradicator
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
• 2x Eradicator with Multi-melta
Scout Squad [70 pts]
• 1x Scout Sergeant
• 4x Scouts w/ Combat Knife
Victrix Honour Guard [240 pts]
• 1x Chapter Ancient
• 5x Victrix Honour Guard
Victrix Honour Guard [240 pts]
• 1x Chapter Champion
• 5x Victrix Honour Guard

## Vehicle [300 pts]

Ballistus Dreadnought [150 pts]
Ballistus Dreadnought [150 pts]
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>>97320361
...this is bait right?
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>>97320355
You don't know what that word means
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>>97320359
>Anon, nobody discusses it. Not just here, but everywhere.
And surely you can easily present to us all such vast amount of methric with proper methodic of how it corelates with book sales.
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>>97320372
Anon, if nobody discusses a book that means it didn't sell well.
What the fuck's your point?
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>>97319945
This is your brain on HH primarchs slop
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>>97320372
>ill use all the big magic words my AI told me to!
>that will ALWAYS win me the argument!
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>>97320365
can u explain to me how it would be bait ? keep in mind ive only ever played 2 games of warhammer ever and got stomped into the mud only killing 2 units at most each time......
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>>97320377
>What the fuck's your point?
My point is that while BL chart of the best selling books might be questionable source of information, it's still more valuable than pure speculations based on discussions on /40kg/.
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How do they mess up this book so badly? It feels like three different stories packed into one, with no real tension. It has the easiest setup of all time. Just have Davin happen early and Horus struggling against Chaos afterwards. Instead, we get a bunch of pointless POV sections, and then it just kind of wraps up at the end i want I've, I've almost completed it. I'm on page 400 and I'm like, what the hell even happened in this book.
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>>97320395
>BL chart of the best selling books
Anon that chart wasn't about best selling books.
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>>97320384
>named characters
>including a primarch
>in a "casual" game

guess I'm just old but that seems kinda scummy
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>>97320377
Guess the book sold well because it's been nonstop bitching about it's existence/irrelevance since it's release
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>>97320366
>somebody says something
>nuh uh it's actually the opposite (baseless and detached from reality)
you're a contrarian
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>>97320412
>it's been nonstop bitching about it's existence/irrelevance since it's release
No, anon, it hasn't.
Just go to bed, get some sleep. Defending Eldar like this isn't good for one's mental health, as it's always going ti be a losing battle.
It's okay to like Eldar, but you have to accept they're never going to be popular or even respected.
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>>97320400
Sorry my bad, it's actually was a popular vote.
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>>97320402
i barely know what each of my units do desu so that doesnt help at all when im making positioning errors or wrong judgment calls......ive been tabled vs chaos daemons and DA so far, hence asking to see if its a list problem.....
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>>97320432
>No, anon, it hasn't.
>Just go to bed, get some sleep. Defending Eldar like this isn't good for one's mental health, as it's always going ti be a losing battle.
That's a lot of projecting along with low self-esteem.
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>>97320359
>it was colossal flop
Do you have any numbers to support that argument. Because I have a number
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>>97320329
Anyone with a brain knows that best selling chart is just GW shilling shit since they won't give actual numbers for copies sold. The only books I can legit believe selling well is marinesloppa because people eat that up especially if it has Primarchs
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>>97320384
>ultrafags, who are incredibly powerful atm with recent releases
>primarch
>2 x victrix
>"casual game"
Other anon is right, seems scummy, but ig you just want to use all the shiny new smurfs
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>>97320459
>The only books I can
Finally we've got to the source of issue here.
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>>97320450
>This vote which had a hidden ballot that GW could easily manipulate says this recently released book is actually popular despite the fact all talk regarding it stopped within a week of its release
>GW would never EVER lie about popularity metrics to advertise content that didn't do well
PLEASE tell me you aren't this stupid.
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>>97320472
>ote which had a hidden ballot that GW could easily manipulate
Doesn't meant they actually did it.
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>>97320480
Voidscarred being so high despite the lack of discussion or coverage is actually more proof of ballot tampering than of the book being good.
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>>97320483
>the lack of discussion
Again, care to bring some metrics, beyond your casual observance of /tg/?
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>>97320464
see
>>97320384
>>97320437
i have a 100% overwhelming loss rate ....i just want to use my new units i painted :(
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is it just me or were Blood Angels gigashilled for a while before the smurfs got even more popular due to SM2?
this isn't a complaint, i like the BA but they seem to get less spotlight now despite being really popular
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>>97320431
>Making up scenarios in your head
>Using words you don't really know the meaning of
>Not actually refuting the claim
Classic
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>>97320472
>despite the fact all talk regarding it stopped within a week of its release
>Source:
>Dude trust me bro
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>>97320497
>is it just me or were Blood Angels gigashilled for a while before the smurfs got even more popular due to SM2?
Depends on what exactly you mean. BAngels had their time to shine durring 5th edition, they also had special friends with necrons due to Nids problem and thei advance towards Bhaal. But it's all went to shit when Guilliman returned and GW made even battle of Bhaal smurfs-focused
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>>97320497
Blood Angels are still a massively revered chapter that is considered maybe only second to the Ultra Marines (gay). Yes the Ultras have been shilled since the early 2ks but Bloods have seemingly always had a place in 40k fans hearts.
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>>97320507
gw should have let the kids win at baal
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>>97320507
the BA have been sidelined for a while now but that's every chapter outside of smurfs, even the DA haven't gotten as much as the smurfs despite Lion's return but we'll see what happens to them in DoW4
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>>97320507
GW honestly just need to turn 40k into 30k 2.0 and bring back more primarchs.....it gives the csm and loyalist sm a cool centerpiece to build an army around (if they like the character) and GW gets to rake in more shekels while attracting secondaries like me that really think primarchs are the coolest part of the setting. idk why they insist on moving the narrative forward at such a glacial pace with barely any changes for good or bad
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>>97320538
I dont like this.
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>>97320538
>GW honestly just need to turn 40k into 30k 2.0
Here is thing HH not even in top-10 best selling miniatures lines.
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>>97320538
Primarchs and large centerpiece style named characters are cancer. Herohammer sucks. EpicHerohammer sucks even more.
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>>97320538
Anon, Russ is already planned to return this year but I doubt they'll do anything significant with him. GW doesn't want the narrative to change because they want to milk the cashcows as much as possible and the Primarchs print money so they release sparingly
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>>97320568
>Russ is already planned to return this year but I doubt they'll do anything significant with him
Sauce?
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>>97320568
>but I doubt they'll do anything significant with him
Good since Space Wolves looks gay as fuck
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>>97320561
its just my secondary take. ik alot of ppl hate hero/epic hammer, but personally i love the power fantasy wank......
>>97320549
I meant 30k 2.0 in that all the living primachs are back and each xenos faction has a silent king-ish main dude to rally around to center the narrative a bit for brainlets like me that need a face/representative for each faction to get invested
>>97320568
financially it makes sense to drip feed them returning but god does the wait suck. personally im a space wolves hater and dont like russ as a character so his return doesnt excite me at all :(
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>>97320302
Nobody talks about BL books in these threads for longer than a couple days. Archmagos was the most significant lore book in the last two years or so and barely anyone talked about it.
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>>97320549
nvm found new one. Seems like marines on their own and sigmarines are no match to the wolves
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>>97320534
>in DoW4
Huh, are they not using Blud Rahvens?
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>>97320359
>Anon, nobody discusses it. Not just here, but everywhere.
This is a clever option select because there's no way to actually refute or prove this without admitting to being a redditor or twitterfag
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>>97320586
You aren't a secondary lmao, you play games and paint, which is a lot more than the people complaining about herohammer or marvelslop or whatever word they're using at the moment
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>>97320595
They're using both
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>>97320601
Neat and interdasting
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>>97320586
>its just my secondary take. ik alot of ppl hate hero/epic hammer, but personally i love the power fantasy wank......
May be you should wank yourself more oftenly then.
>I meant 30k 2.0 in that all the living primachs are back and each xenos faction has a silent king-ish main dude to rally around to center the narrative a bit for brainlets like me that need a face/representative for each faction to get invested
Then it's not 30k 2.0 already.
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>>97320586
>'ates successors
>luvs primarchwank
Okay maybe women were a mistake
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>>97320623
where did it all go wrong..........
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>>97320361
Looks like a valid list to me dunno what else to tell you when you're only going for a friendly play
You have plenty of strong units to work with if you still end up with a devastating loss it's probably a (you) problem so focus on learning the game and making good decisions first and foremost
The only thing that's somewhat baffling to me is the squad of scouts with combat knives, are you throwing them to their deaths just as a joke? I mean it's just 70 points so whatever but I don't see what else they could do aside from afking on an objective
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>>97320629
You would've loved Fantasy back in the day, used to be nicknamed herohammer since HQ units were so strong, could equip them with all sorts of wargear and they'd mulch units to the point where games really came down to the heroes, all the rank and file were just filler. They then rolled out storm of chaos where a bunch of named characters were biffing on each other
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>>97320397
>Instead, we get a bunch of pointless POV sections, and then it just kind of wraps up at the end
That's so many Horus Heresy books you have no idea yet
I don't know why but they INSIST on jumping through POVs across the entire series even when some books would benefit greatly from focusing on a single main character
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>>97320647
is this the future of Warhammer 40k
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>>97320621
okay fair point
>>97320623
OC successors yes, official successors no....
>>97320640
i honestly just didn't know what else to do with the points..my plan was to use them to screen and park on objectives but i can easily change their knives to bolt rifles if thats better....as for making better decisions im looking into buying a combat patrol or playing small 500pt skirmish games to get my bearings about the game flow itself + learn how my units play. i think my main thing right now is trying to remember to use my strategems since its really important to winning....
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>>97320497
>is it just me or were Blood Angels gigashilled for a while before the smurfs got even more popular due to SM2?
not at all, smurfs have always been the posterboys since 2e
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>>97320591
hey TOWlets where's your game in the top 10? LMAO
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>>97320244
Ngl, the characters are even all that gay. The fags made it sound like every page was gay sex, but its all posturing and one line of dialogue at the end.

Also fags dont mention that Votann are just doing to whalers on the moon bit from futurama or that the Ork antagonist decided to build a deathstar, and were woefully self aware for the most part.
Books got some cool moments, and is significantly better to read than shit like Valedor.
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>>97318127
>>Thread question:
>What is /yourdudes/ beverage of choice?
Their serfs make space cheese, so I guess choccy milk unironically.
You can make alcohol our of anything, but where are you going to get authentic cocoa from? Chocolate milk might actually be one of the rarest beverages in 40k.
Besides, marines probably need a ton of calories. Makes more sense for them to drink a diabetic-inducing milkshake than to eat a whole ass banquet every 8 hours
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>>97320727
Marines as a norm eat artificially enhanced scifi food like amino-porridge and triglyceride gel. Some chapters like SW, RG or BA hold feasts as a part of their culture and eat normal people food during those.
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>>97320657
If only, I'd do anything to get wargear lists back. No, if 40K turns into true herohammer it'll be an even more cucked version where you can't even customise (your hero dudes).

>>97320714
Hey now, don't be mean :(
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>>97319948
>Talos
Fuck no, I HATED those books. He can stay in the bin lmfao
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>>97320740
Yee nice. Real Chocomilk and nutrienhanced food is served in their fortress monastery and many ships, but when deployed (most of the time), it's Rechoc for them.
In the Fortress monastery, solid food is Sauronuggets spiked with nutrients. Marines are all overgrown overviolent 12 year olds after all
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>>97320744
>Hey now, don't be mean :(
Sorry but TWWfags have been shitting up aosg nonstop for years so they get no sympathy
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>>97320782
Howso? I didn't think Old World fanatics would dare to step foot over there, when I was trying to discuss using AoS chaos warriors for a TOW army in /wfg/ I was getting screamed at.
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>>97320790
whenever their general dies from inactivity they come in spamming about how the latest aos release flopped and all resources are being moved over to tow and spam down any actual conversation trying to take place
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>>97320683
Imo the best part of successors is looking at their 10-25 mentions across the entire history of the game and then using that as a launching point to make /yourdudes/ while not having to care about everything the big chapters have experienced.
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>Aggressor Squad
>Desolation Squad
>Devastator Squad
>Eliminator Squad
>Eradicator Squad
If we didn't have access to datasheets then nobody would have any fucking clue what these guys do from their names alone.
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>>97320794
Gross, the grogs on this board really need to pull their fucking heads in. Although, I have also heard rumours of discordfags who have it in for 4chen and come here trying to disrupt warhams discussion, not sure how true that is
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>>97320797
>tactical squad
>assault squad
>devastator squad
Yeah I agree
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>>97320797
I'd assume Devastators devastate, anon. Same like how Tacticals stay home elaborating tactics
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>>97320714
>game dies due to lack of purchases
>relaunch game a decade later
>people advised to not buy the new kits and to 3dprint/secondhand purchase by old players
>people advised not to buy books and to pirate by old players
>people advised to not buy bundles and instead secondhand purchase/recast by old players
>people advised to not buy reboxed units and to buy secondhand/recast/3dprint
>Why isn't it on a top 10 sales list?!?1?
Who could say lmao
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>>97320795
This. Even with stuff like Grey Knights there is so much secrecy and split off detachments for arcane purposes that I can do basically whatever I want with them.
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>>97320776
Wtf he's so cute. I would have cast him in resin and kept him forever
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>>97320809
but the TOWlets were assuring me the cathay release was selling better than all space marine releases combined???
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>>97320790
It's been 10 years and they still like to show up in aosg and tell everyone how much better their game and models are but then if you go into wfg it'll be the same 3 people posting models(at least sometimes tsonanon is posting to make up for them) and then maybe if you're lucky you'll see someone post a game pic from months ago on a totally flat green table with two grey armies on it with a windmill or pile of rocks straight in the middle. Outside that it's them lorefag arguing or crying that a black person got used in their art. We also get dedicated shitstirrers there (goteslopper, flopposter,perryfag,etc, ) along with the number of aos drama grifter threads that shit up the catalog that they will link posts to in aosg when their bait thread stops getting (you)s
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>>97318127
>TQ
My dudes are imperial guard so water that doesn’t taste like piss.
And I guess maybe they should have a little black market that includes discreetly made alcohol if such a thing is possible as I imagine the guardsmen as an unruly bunch of conscripts.

Also does this general like paper drawings of 40k stuff? I’ve seen /hhg/ like some paper drawings.

I’m in china right now and I realized that I have too much time at the moment but I can’t post models.

Pic to get attention.

>I really want fsm 6pack and to rest my head on right now.
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This should be a fun little project. By combining Eternal Guard/Wildwood Rangers and bits from the Wyches (mostly weapons), I'm going to make my Ynnari Wyches into Exodite "Forest Guard" and I'll be creating some "Glade Revenants" via the combination of Kurnothi Hunters and Wraithblade parts.
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>>97320809
It's also just y'know, a much more niche game. It exists to appease us old fantasy players and help GW get rid of old sprues.

>>97320824
Rip, ded general. Here's the very start of my project btw (yeah yeah, wrong thread I know but I don't want to go back to that cesspit). AoS warriors have such a nice imposing scale and more dynamic posing, but lack a little flavour and sovl in their gear so I'm trying to mix in older bitz to help with that. I also have a spawn box to give them some crazy mutations too but first unit I've just done as basic bitches so far.
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>>97320825
>and
I meant to type abs.
Phone autocorrect got me.
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>>97320821
Yeah they also said they would build and paint an army for their rules system and even when given 10 years somehow there is more grey posted in wfg than any other miniature game general on the board. They say cathay sold well, and if you look at tournaments around when they dropped they were fairly popular. I think the meta list was like 5-6 of the 200cad balloons alongside like 4 boxes of the peasants or some shit. Either way, your average person isn't buying one giant 18inch tall balloon on a flightstand, let alone 5, and outside tournaments I haven't seen anyone post them on /tg/ aside from the guy in aosg using them for cities of sigmar
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>>97320809
I literally bought into tow with chaos warriors a couple months back after listening to the propaganda that the old warrior kits were much easier to kitbash with and personalize than what Aos offered.
Literally everything is shit, and I wish I never listened to them. The models require too much fucking work and are absolute dogshit because of how constrained the models are for rank and flank.
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>>97320825
Yeah I think everyone likes art here. If it's horny art you might get one guy sperging out about it in roughly 3 hours. But he was going to sperg about some form of lewd art at 5-530amEST anyways,
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>>97320858
Yeah you can't drink their koolaid. I think the only time it's worth taking their word is if you have the ability to fact check their statements 100% before it becomes a problem for you
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>all this drama over 40k vs heresy vs AoS vs TOW
>meanwhile me
>chilling till 11th
>playing necromunda
>and shadow war armageddon
>and even inq28
>in my lane
>flourishing
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>>97320858
The ones with their arms glued to their sides and the joint is at the elbow? I'm so sorry anon, every positive comment I've seen about those online has been such utter cope, you were lied to. Kid me, when I first got into warhams liked how stoic and foreboding they looked, and I was working on a mixed warriors and daemons tzeentch army when they split them into two codexes and royally fucked my list, so I gave up and moved onto 40K. Growing up and working more with miniatures I then realised how shit those models were, offering no real customisation, all the same exact pose, and particularly I saw the older metal warriors who had all crazed poses and I was like oh yeah, that's so much more chaos. My TOW project is to make the tzeentch army I always dreamed of and meant to try replicate some of that craziness of the old metals.
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>>97320885
nta but you should check out this youtube channel if you're into that oldhammer/realm of chaos vibe
youtube.com/@Yong-Duke

lots of good inspiration and even sculpting tips to match the old GW style
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>>97320811
This guy turned out so sick im going to steal it for my lamenters as one of the 4 wild cards that oversee the chapter
>>97320832
Nice hope you have fun throwing them together. You could also get a handful more poses by scraping the trim off bloodwarriors and mixing their bits with the new warriors
>>97320858
Honestly I think you need to take everything they say with a large grain of salt. Can you convert them, yeah. But is it going to be a good time and going through the effort is the real question. You havr to read really carefully why they think an older model is superior. A lot of it is nostalgia goggles and being so exposed to the more cartoony artstyle it's always had
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>>97320880
Shadow war Armageddon is a blast. Really lends itself to vertical gameplay
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>>97320893
Thanks, I'll have to give it a squiz!

>>97320902
Oh shid, I do actually have a bunch of bloodwarriors already built...
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>>97320902
hell yeah, and thanks. I'm planning to build two more in slightly more dynamic poses once I'm finished with my current stuff.

the display shelf will be one of my grandest builds ever if I can pull it off.
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>>97320880
>sw: a
Now that was a goofy time...
>inq28
Found the rulebook buried under a stack of shit at a game store bit over a decade ago, never actually played.
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>>97320937
Inq is pretty fun. To play it at 28mm scale just swap all the rules that use inches into cm and its pretty much perfect.
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>>97320944
Oh sick, I'm Aussie so we use metric anyway. Will have to give it a shot with my RPG group some day.
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Any cool alternative colour schemes for Fire Dragons?
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>>97320975
I quite like the Molten Spear, Fire Dragons who serve the Ynnari. It's a small difference, but dark red with the bright orange helmet makes the orange and the bronze on the weapons pop quite nicely.
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>>97318573
>I have no idea what you see in these sculpts
That's ok, different people like different things.

>but I like that you like them
Thank you anon :)
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>>97319055
>You may receive one (1) named character at some point
At this point I'll take it! Choosers and beggars etc,
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>>97319008
This anon only primes his minis in the best atmospheric conditions.
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>>97319953
More like Dark Karens
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>>97319773
I really don't like Deathwatch due to them not leaning hard enough into a gimmick of being made up out of various chapters. They should be basically an excuse to convert and kitbash and paint marines from different Chapters as opposed to making one consistent force. And they should have minor bit at best to tie them together like that silver arm with silver pauldron. So it should be possible to make a space yiff in space yiff colors and field him alongside green Salamander and then make every guy your donut steel in different colors.

Instead the contrary is true. They have established aesthetics of another black armor marines but with silver arm + Inquisition insignia. The actual multichapter thing is boiled down to be a single pauldron and that's it.

This makes them utterly worthless as a concept and a complete waste of an option. All Marines are made to kill Xenos anyway and I may as well make any other actual Chapter since Deathwatch won't let me paint and convert multiple marines anyway.

I don't like Grey Knights for similar reasons. They are also a waste of a concept and anti your dudes for no reason.
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>>97320880
>necromunda
never looked into it(until now)
but im surprised at how many models there are.
some of them look pretty nice
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>>97321086
>I don't like Grey Knights for similar reasons. They are also a waste of a concept and anti your dudes for no reason.
I disagree, GK can be made into /yourdudes/ similar to how Black Templars can. They have Brotherhoods and strike forces, they have a long an endearing history where you can sneak in /yourdudes/ and tweak them to still be fluff friendly. The Warp can cause interesting things, as can Inquisitors too. I personally have an entire force of GK that I would love nothing more than to talk about what makes them unique, but they need the last of their paint and extra modeling/conversions before I am comfortable doing so.
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>>97318289
What model is that Ork?
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>>97320829
>I'm making Exodites!
No you won't, fuck you
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I gotta say this whole deal with the Victrix guard has to be some of the most obvious Gw has been selling rules like ever lmao
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C'tan lists are going to be so OP. C'tan cost 80 points less than Mortarion with a tankier profile, better rules and/or better weapons. People are just going to slam 3 in a list and statcheck everything to death.
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>>97321112
Oldmunda is based, newcromunda is a bit too modern GW design for me. Under the old rules you'd luck into some stat increases and shit to create some really cool dudes more "organically", of course it did suck if you rolled like shit all campaign though.
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>>97319963
>lesbians
Homosexuality in itself is an illness
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>>97321148
These niggas too.
I get that they can't do enough testing and sometimes they can fuck up.
But there is no universe in which you look at these niggas with their 20 wounds, 20 OC, invulns, decent melee etc and think "yeah, they should be only 10 more points than 5 intercessors, sounds about right".
It's so self-evidently wrong.
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>>97321191
I'm obsessed with all things Imperial Navy in 40k so I might just buy the navy officer from this squad on Ebay but if I was a Marine player this unit would be an auto-include in every list.
I'm not even a WAACfag, there are simply some units too good to not take and this is one of them imo
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>>97321191
They'll get nerfed 2 weeks after release once the piggies have bought in
no refunds
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>>97319162
>vindicator assassin
>do you mind vindicare?
>I know what I said
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>>97320811
I... don't hate this
Guess something good came out of saturnine after all
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>>97321191
And simply adding them to your army gives you 3x redeploy lmao. SM players get absolutely fleeced, main reason I gave up on having a SM army because at any given point 90% of their units are completely unplayably bad because they just get a new release that is utterly broken, metachasers buy 3x of it and then it gets nerfed within a month.
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>>97321236
Yep, guaranteed.
You can tell what they were going for, the designer wanted wardens to be this fluffy swiss army knife unit of weirdos with not much raw power but a lot of utility, but they "accidentaly" made an uber efficient trash piece.
At least this time the bandwagon waacfags didn't buy 6 boxes of these, I guess.

>>97321230
Agreed. The marine guys are boring but the human characters look great.
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>>97320880
>all this drama over 40k vs heresy vs AoS vs TOW
tfw just play all of them and instigate shit against other games in every thread.
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>>97321280
>tfw just play all of them
CONSUME
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>>97320913
Sounds like you've got a bunch of sweet bits for chaos warriors then. Also fuecoco my beloved
>>97320919
I always thought it'd be fun to throw together a small display shelf that you can easily rotate minis in and out of. The necro zone mortalis also looks like so much fun to throw togethe
r>>97321086
I think you could easily paint them in an alternate scheme and have them turn out the way you like. Just fluff them out as being on their way back from a mission so they all already swapped their armour colours back when they got caught off guard by something
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>>97321292
lol poorfag.
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>>97321296
Nah, I'm just jerking your chain lad. I play AoS, MESBG and 40k lol we piggie together
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>>97321148
>>97321191
Generally anything that is really good at the moment will see a brutal nerf. At one point you could take mek guns in units of three but make 3 mek guns out of a mek gun kit and the old trukk. They had like 2 months of being insane and then haven't been meta since. I do think this is somewhat a good thing because it allows the people who just buy the models they like to sometimes get a nice little surprise with a rules update, and gives the guys who meta chase something new to be excited about every 3 months
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>>97321236
>They'll get nerfed 2 weeks after release once the piggies have bought in
I don't think so, it's the end of the edition so they'll just let anything fly at this point.
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>>97321298
Begone goteslopper you play nothing
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>>97321300
Victrix just got nerfed 2 times in a span of like 3 weeks.
If enough people bitch about it on reddit they will nerf it even outside of the usual rotation.
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>>97321312
Jesus christ
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>>97321312
>>97321314
Your turn :)
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>>97321312
>>97321314
>>97321321
Do you paint poorly on purpose. That might be the laziest application of contrast I've ever seen
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>>97321329
>Refuses to post his own models after being mogged by someone who plays 3 seperate games while he's never played 1 or even bought a model
Lol
Lmao, even
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>>97321332
I don't post models for people who are paintmogged by your average disabled child
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>>97321335
Sure sure sure, nogames nomodels secondary. Whatever you say.
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>>97320397
Anon, you've no idea how bad things get in this series...
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>>97321114
>GK can be made into /yourdudes/ similar to how Black Templars can.
Neither can, just like you can't make first founding chapters /yourdudes/, grey knights even more so since there's so few of them
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>>97319682
Eh, more Marvel-tier zoomerslop these days.
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>>97321335
You don't post models at all faggot
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>>97321336
>>97321350
>paintlet samefagging
Sad!
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>>97321359
Still waiting.
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>>97321363
>inspect element
keep crying
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>>97321359
post models with a timestamp, bitch
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>>97321397
you know the rules
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>>97321396
>Less than a minute between responses, not enough time to change anything
Still waiting, secondary. You do have models to show, yes? Right? Of course you do :)
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>>97321400
Not for paintlets
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>>97321403
So you do not, in fact, own models or play games. Understand, I kicked the fuck out of you in this thread and you know it, wee bitch lmao
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>>97321405
did you do that with your hands with five big toes on each hand instead of fingers lol? wondering how you could overspill and slop on so much paint on a model as big as a bon
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>>97321411
>WAAAAH! WAAAAH!
The cries of a defeated secondary.
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>>97321411
He's still 100 times better than a nomodels nogames shitposting nigger like you.
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>>97321400
I concede anon, I only have 1700 points of unpainted, half assembled, partially primed space wolves
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Anons. I've got some Forgeworld stuff that I've never been able to find in ttheir catalogues and never used.(since about 2008?). Anyone want to help me ID it if I post some photos?
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Christ this fag is even worse than the decalslopper
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>>97321427
>Anyone want to help me ID it if I post some photos?
Show us anon UwU
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>>97321429
there's a reason /aosg/ hates him
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>>97321429
>>97321433
Post models.
Do not allow the thread to fall further into the shit.
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>>97321429
Does this all the time in aosg. He wasn't lying when he said he shits up threads for fun
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The absolute state of this shit general
No wonder I dont share my painted models here anymore, either you get troll replies or a bunch of should be namefags start a tantrum
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>>97321429
Not even close
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>>97321433
>>97321436
>there's a reason /aosg/ hates him
I adore the fact that I have multiple painted armies, play multiple games and play often infuriates so many people. Jealousy is a wonderous thing to behold.
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>>97321436
>Does this all the time in aosg. He wasn't lying when he said he shits up threads for fun
I've never said that. I just enjoy showing off my models/mogging nomodels nogames and that seems to just set off the secondaries constantly.
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>>97321439
I'm glad you posted all of your armies so I can filter the majority of posts you make. I dunno what the nomodels lashing out was all about but you are annoying af anon
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>>97321446
You're welcome.
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On second thought let us not go to /40kg/.
'tis a silly place.
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>>97321478
There's a little more than this that I have, but I've never seen any of it anywhere else. It's obviously a kind of bunker/trenching system...
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>>97321483
that isn't FW
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>>97321339
Yeah I think im already done lmao trash writing
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>>97321032
Leadbelcher spray primer on my back patio.



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