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Emotional Purging edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025

>News
The 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotation
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

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https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

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>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
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>What is EDH?
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>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.
https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97317547

>TQ
What is the best card so far in the set?
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>>97324693
Noggle
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MtgA player numbers are surging
#Lorwynning
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Kill the mole
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The person that's turning Lorwyn into Kaladesh.
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>>97324782
Rare art that wouldn't feel out of place in og Lorywn
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>>97324811
Well they turned Kaladesh into not Kaladesh, so we're missing 1 Kaladesh in the multivers
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This has been oddly doing well, mostly on the back of so many other decks caring about the graveyard, whether it be for threshold or delve etc.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6921180#paper

This one however has not been doing well. It just seems like the old stoneforge+blue protection isn't matching up well against what a lot of people are doing these days. Which is a shame, since it's one of my all time favorite decks for years.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6859613#paper

Legacy is my favorite format and I like trying new things and trying pet cards and playing unpopular decks. I had a lot of success with it when people said maverick was dead for example, so I'm still kicking along with dnt, maverick, azorius stoneblade, and deadguy ale, with some good and some poor results.
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The eclipsed cycle. Being eclipsed should have turn you into stone but they seem to have forgotten that.
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>>97324693
Shame that boros convoke don't exist in standard anymore, catharsis would be a good replacement for Imodane's Recruiter. Itwill help the deck a bit in pioneer but it won't be enough.
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More treasure makers.
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>>97324886
A goblin was searching for new sensory experiences. Having sex with any hole it could find. After inserting plant parts here and there, he created a std with the trees. Trees procreate with spores so the std is airborne.
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Elf Command
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One mana 7/7
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>>97324866
Technically speaking this is the cheapest impulse draw effect out there (only costs R if the creature is dying anyway) but you obviously have to have something dying already for that price.
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>>97324955
At 3 this would have been borderline busted. At 4 it is barely playable.
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>>97324971
this card made me realize that i miss deaths shadow decks
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I just want my dwarfs, man. How many cards are there left...

I... think... we aint gonna... make it dorf bros...
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>>97325015
There are actually 3 creatures legal in constructed with toughness 20 or more. Time to try to brew some jank.
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>>97325106
Could also use this guy; since you're in red anyways, you'll have burn, so shouldn't be hard to find 5 to face with lightning strikes and the like.
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>>97325106
Blight only targets 1 creature
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>>97325008
hobbit set coming, could be good if they reject modernity
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>>97325184
>fullmetal alchemist secret lair
>edward elric creature type - dwarf
too bad wizards hasn't been based in 20 years
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>>97325132
You could also do some Tree of Redemption/Tree of Perdition shenanigan
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>>97325147
blight doesn't target any creatures, actually, and i don't think you understand the brew
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>>97325184
I dont want african dwarves my man, but thank you.

>>97325197
lol,
lmao
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>>97324782
good that it exiles.
>>97324811
The fun thing is that every new setting is equal to the point that if you show 100 new art to someone and say they belong to different worlds I bet people would not be able to tell the difference on most.
>>97324843
cool one but should have been blue. (white merfolk as shadowmoor merfolk is retarded)
>>97324853
shit.
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>>97324853
Was literally any of those fake Champion cards good?
I mean not like real Champion cards were good, but still
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>>97325106
Dawnsire wouldn't work comparatively because it's not a creature without so much effort and thus its P/T don't matter for Immolation. So really just Walls or Adamantoise.
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>>97325015
It's also worth noting that the blight is a cost to cast, so copying the spell would halve the number you need to hit.
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>>97325277
i forgot they failed to acquire the film likeness rights so everything has to be legally distinct
unfortunate
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>>97324693
Hybrid Mana has two colours

FULL STOP
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Sad how they keep making more command cards but only the OG Lorwyn and the Tarkir ones are any good/memorable. Every other attempt at a command has resulted in boring slop.
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>>97325522
That's by design. The Tolkien Estate wants to flush the movie likenesses from the zeitgeist so they don't have to share.
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>>97325608
THAT'S why Aragorn's a nigger now?!
I see how it is..
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>>97325608
That doesn’t mean make the fucking dwarves black though. It’s ridiculous. I bet the estate said do whatever you want except make it close to the movies. And wizards would make every mothafucka black as shit for a European mythological setting. I shouldn’t get so upset but this one thing makes me so fucking mad. Wizards knows what they are doing. Seriously what are the odds it’s coming from down high via Tolkiens Estate. I just can’t believe it based on WOTC’s track record.
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Waiting for a 1 mana cost giant.
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>>97325741
Your anger is completely justified
Would you go and make everyone in "Journey to the West" look scandinavian and have them voiced by posh brits?
If so, why not?
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40% of all the cards in Standard need banned. MTG has never, ever been in a worse state than it is now. Not even Eldrazi Winter.
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>>97325839
Aren't "people" in journey to the west literal monkeys and pigs and other goblins?
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Hobbit set dwarves won't be black, but an annoyingly high number of them won't be mono-red.
Holy shit, I forgot how few dwarf creatures got printed in the LotR set. Goblins got 10 cards, Orcs got (only) 11 and treefolk got 12 (counting the Doran reprint).
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>>97325845
>implying random draft chaff taking over Modern meta wasn't Kino
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>>97325015
5 mana is a tough sell, but being basically a OHKO plus a board wipe is pretty fucking silly. 5cmc board wipes are on the fringe of playable, but absolutely still playable in hard control.

I could see this fitting into Jeskai lists as a finisher easily. I think 9 is going to be the highest value that is reasonably easy to reach, via Altanak, Bygone Colossus, and 8 is trivial with Caelorna.
You won't be getting 15-20 reasonably any time soon, outside of some jank combo discoveries.
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>>97325854
I fucking love Malevolent Rumble.
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>>97325846
Is that a yes or a no?
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>>97325845
>40% of all the cards in Standard need banned.
I think 99.6% of all standard cards should be banned
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>>97325845
>>97325854
Eldrazi Winter was unironically the first time I watched competitive play because I just couldn't get enough of how thoroughly fucked everything was.
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>>97325556
The Strixhaven ones were alright for like 20 minutes.
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>>97325845
What cards would you ban, anon?
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>>97325741
>I bet the estate said do whatever you want except make it close to the movies.
They explicitly said "don't make it close to the movies". You really need to look at the Tolkien Estate's recent track record on what they've been approving.
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>>97325977
40% of all cards would entail listing 1600 cards. There is not enough character space in a 4chan post to list the cards that need banned in Standard.
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I am not impressed by this set at all and find it very boring and uninspired.
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>>97324971
>B
>Creature - Elemental
>1/1
>Menace
>Whenever one or more permanent cards are put into your graveyard from anywhere, put a
+1/+! counter on this creature.
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>>97325516
>o copying the spell would halve the number you need to hit.
Factual.
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>>97324971
Moonshadow becomes a turn 2 5/5 in insidious roots deck
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>>97326151
>or more
It becomes a 2/2.
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>>97326089
Doesn't combo with Varolz
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desu
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>>97326068
It is EVERYTHING you said and yet you know what?
Is the BEST set this fucking year.
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>>97326213
>Is the BEST set this fucking year.
My guy over here spitting the hard truths.
Lorwyn is turning out to be total shit and it's only downhill from here.
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>>97326213
Jace literally creating homophobia in Reality Fractured will be better
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>>97326248
>Jace literally creating homophobia in Reality Fractured will be better
In Jace Beleren's Darkplace, gay rights is not a universal constant that all planes miraculously agreed to for no reason.
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>Reality Fagture makes UBverses canon in-universe for Magic
How do you react?
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>>97326278
>How do you react?
I order some Earl Gray, Hot and say
>"Beam me up, Scotty! xD"

Star Trek will save Magic! Set phasers to FUN!!
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What do you think the odds are that they use the phrase "Set phasers to fun!" in the Star Trek preview livestream?
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Do it, you cowards.
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>>97326089
At least it has a ceiling.
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Star Trek content creator mandatory cringe lines
>Set phasers to Fun!
>Beam me up to a whole new experience!
>This set is too strong! If it’s pushed any harder, it’s likely to blow!
>Live long and Prosper Tome Bound
>These cards are for the Next Generation
>Warp speed my deck, Mr Sulu!
>These UB sets are quite the “Enterprise” of IP’s
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>>97326366
>I'm a doctor, not a Magic player!
>Great Scott!
All these will be either card names or in flavor texts.
God it's going to fucking so so fucking goddamned much.
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>"With great power, comes great Mythic Rarity."

oh my god this set is going to be such fucking unfathomable ass holy shit
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>>97326248
nu MTG writing is shit. Old MTG novels were cool and based. NU MTG stories is about pronoums.
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>>97326393
All of this is ass
Everything since Eldritch Moon has been ass, maybe with some exceptions in the Ixalan block
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Pirates where cringe and gay though
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>>97326366
Trekshit is such an irrelevant boomerslop that i didn't recognise any of those refrences
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>>97325967
I remember the UR one being used for all kinds of treasure + looting fuckery ie creativity decks and the BG one being a decent self mill card. I have no idea what the other 3 even do without looking them up.
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Has MTG dropped that infographic for the set explaing the color archetypes for drafting?
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Star Trek can only be done justice as a 3 set block. Hopefully it sells well enough
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>>97325556
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>>97326476
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/total-eclipsed-of-the-sun
The Shadowmoor draft archetypes are:
R/G Vivid Midrange
G/U Vivid Ramp
W/B Use -1/-1 counters as a resource
R/W Giant creatures that lose their -1/-1 counters
U/B Faerie tribal cast spells on your opponent's turn.
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>>97326497
Nice. Looks like I'm drafting Merfolk
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>>97326497
The others are
W/U Merfolk tribal and self tapping
U/R Elemental tribal and +4 mana value
B/G Elf tribal and self mill
B/R Goblin tribal and blight
G/W Kithkin tribal go wide
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>>97326497
>R/W Giant creatures that lose their -1/-1 counters
So, +1/+1 counters.
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>>97326297
>>97326348
>>97326366
I can already see from a mile away how obnoxious shitty and completely devoid of all sense this ST bullshit set will be.

We are months away and i already wanna die of cringe.
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>>97326651
>I can already see from a mile away how obnoxious shitty and completely devoid of all sense this ST bullshit set will be.

>All the worst, cringiest memes from OldTrek
>But stapled onto the visuals and aesthetic of nuTrek
You do not understand how bad things are going to be.
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>>97326643
Nevermind I found it.
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I wanna know this whole general opinion if possible. Most Lorwyn is already unveiled how much would you rate this set from 1 being Spooderman tier to 10 being Bloomburrow, Innistrad, Amonketh levels of kino.
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>>97326674
>if trigger, trigger again
MMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>97326685
Seems perfect for the triggered tribe. I wonder if the rimekins test name was snowflakekin.
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>>97326679
>1 being Spooderman tier
1 is Ikoria.
Spiderman is a 3.

>10 being Bloomburrow, Innistrad, Amonketh levels of kino.
Those are 6, 7 and 4 respectively.
10 is 5DN.

Anyways, nuLorwyn's a 4.
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>>97326679
What, are you talking about flavor? Maybe a 3. If you mean the mechanics, it doesn't look special, but I've learned again and again that no one knows shit until the cards are in players' hands.
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>>97326706
>but I've learned again and again that no one knows shit until the cards are in players' hands.
The fuck are you talking about?
Cori-Steel Cutter is barely 40% of the Pioneer meta and is played in Legacy, it's basically confirmed for draft chaff.
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>>97326712
>tfw Mission Briefing was 8 years ago
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>>97326731
It's amazing how fast card assessment happens when you actually see it on the board though.

It took me a single game seeing Steel Cutter to instantly recognize that it is ten thousand miles past the line of being acceptable. Mission Briefing on the other hand, you play it once and know it's shit.
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>>97326731
>bro it's Snapcaster but better bro
Little did we know both cards would become unplayable
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>>97326651
I love Star Trek but it really has nothing to do with Magic any more than if they made a set about YouTube celebs or the stock market or something. They simply saw the space set did surprisingly well and some Hasbro retards thought "oh cool that means all scifi is now open to being ported to Magic, get Disney on the line we need to shovel out 8 star wars sets next year." Like, to fucking know it's coming. Star Wars, Minecraft etc anything popular they just will try to fucking leech off it.
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>>97326839
>They simply saw the space set did surprisingly well and some Hasbro retards thought "oh cool that means all scifi is now open to being ported to Magic, get Disney on the line we need to shovel out 8 star wars sets next year." Like, to fucking know it's coming. Star Wars, Minecraft etc anything popular they just will try to fucking leech off it.
Anon, UB sets have five year development cycles. It's the other way around.
They signed a deal for Star Trek rights, then the execs forced the designers to make a scifi set so Star Trek wouldn't feel out of place in the IP.
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>>97324811
Why the fuck is this a 3/4?
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>>97326849
Why dos Q. Diddy have 6 toughness?
Because power creep anon.
It's FINALLY bleeding into white.
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>>97326849
You would want people to feel bad by having to lose their creatures when they attack, would you?
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>>97326679
Idk, maybe 2 or 3?
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>>97326866
WHAT
THE
FUCK
IS
THAT
CARD
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>>97326839
No, when they designed Edge of Eternities, they already knew that Star Trek was coming, which is why all the memes and references ("Set phasers to stun", redshirt dies, etc). were left out. Note that Star Wars references, like the lightsaber card were left in.
The real litmus test to see if people would accept hard scifi in Magic was Neon Dynasty. And people at it up with gusto.
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>>97326872
mini winota
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>pitches to endurance
>pitches to subtlety and FoN
>maindeck removal for graveyard hate at 2 mana
>puts 2 creatures in graveyard + digs for a cascade spell
>is also the biggest mythic evoke elemental revealed so far

it's always so funny to me as a living end player we'll spend years without any really impactful new cards then we just get an absolute bomb that feels like it was made specifically for the deck
this isn't quite vintage oath getting atraxa levels of upgrade but it feels pretty damn close, I'm maindecking 4x copies as soon as the card gets cheap on MTGO
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>>97326912
I'd probably want it as a 2 or 3-of. You want the 1cmc cyclers more than 2-cost ones, and the double pip to get the cycling effect is a tall ask for decks stretching their colors so thin already.

Still, yes, it's pretty cool. I wish the art wasn't just Ravnica Allegience-tier Sharktocrab reddit creature hybrid cringe nonsense. But whatever.
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>>97326958
I'm starting with 4x to see how it feels but I'm not worried about the double blue pips at all, living end is a base blue deck splashing green with just a tiny bit of white for access to ardent plea and sideboard cards, the first land you want to fetch every game is hedge maze, making blue blue on turn 2 won't be a problem
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>>97326912
Yeah this one and the gruul colored dog-flower thing are actually not terrible IMO.

The others are just really fucking overcosted to matter much, like the RW one is 6? For a 3/4 that can do one of two extremely underwhelming abilities? For fucking 6cmc hard cast the thing reads like a fucking uncommon. Ooooh shit you're getting two 1/1s on a card and a 3/4 if you waste an ephemerate on it, watch the fuck out everyone
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>>97326912
Cycling, Cycling, cycling, cycling, cycling, cycling, cycling, cycling, cycling, violent outburst, living end, force of negation, gg
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>>97327044
>he doesn't know
violent outburst is banned in modern
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>>97327038
They probably got scared by how good imodane's recruiter was. It's 3 mana for pump + 3 hasty power, RW elemental is 6 mana for pump + 8 hasty power across three bodies. At 5 it'd be just 1 more than heroic reinforcements.
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>Lorwyn Eclipsed trailer has ECLIPSED the Bloomburrow trailer in views twofold in only half a week
Fuck yeah, we're so back.
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You guys went from bitching about how Lorwyn 2 was going to be enshittified low power faggot AIDS to being le super hype to play pushed cards and talking about MUH SOVL literally overnight. Where are your pigslop memes now?
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>>97327068
ONE LIGHT
ONE DARK
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>>97327086
TWO WORLDS A WORLD APAAART!
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>>97327093
BUT SOMEHOW, IN OUR DREAMS, WE SHARE THE SKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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>>97327038
the gruul dog seems like a sideboard upgrade to amulet titan but I don't know how often amulet players are dealing with moon effects these days outside of boros energy players running one or two copies

>>97327044
outburst has been banned for 2 years friend, we only cascade at sorcery speed now, the deck is essentially simic midrange until you find an opportunity to living end
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>>97325981
>You really need to look at the Tolkien Estate's recent track record on what they've been approving.
It's less making it not like the movies, and more approving anything for money. 2020 is when Tolkien's last child died. They were the ones guarding their fathers work. Making sure anything LotR was high quality. Now it is on the third generation who are less attached to it. Why after the Tolkien's last kid died you sudden see things like, The Golem video game, the live action series, the anime movie, and even the Magic cards. All things that someone who wants to honor their fathers work would not green light.

All of that is of course speculation, but the time line adds up. Tolkien's sons I imagine would have been fine with a Magic set, but would have insisted the characters look how they imagine them to look. The third generation probably could have put their foot down and WotC would have to deal with it. But they didn't care because the money is the same, and it's even easier if you just cash the check and don't have to think about it again.
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Check this niggas hard drive
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>>97327068
People are a sucker for muppets, what else is new?
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>>97326912
Wish this had changeling
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>>97327068
I honestly found this trailer to be kind of cringe and lame.

>>97327086
>>97327093
>>97327105
Begone, shills.
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>>97324971
This would go well woth any recursion loop. But, what doesn't? I'm thinking it's best as an early drop for a self-mill graveyard deck.
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>>97324971
You're welcome
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>>97327408
Why the fuck are you posting that shit pile when one of the best creatures ever printed that does almost exactly the same thing has an identical mana cost.
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>>97327411
>1 time cost of 1 mana vs 2 every turn
>card selection that helps discard pieces vs slow clues
>flying vs not
>nonlegendary vs legendary
>doesn't need to exile vs needs a new copy every time
Are you joking?
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>>97327430
>1/1 useless brick
vs
>2/3 that generates constant card advantage
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>>97327449
You're swinging in with 7/7s, this ain't a control deck.
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>>97327467
Yes but you would prefer to be able to win games against them.
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>>97324782
>8 lines of text
Yu-Gi-Oh by end of the decade
Mark my words
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>>97327501
If you list cards by their functional text, writing out keywords, MTG blew past YGO years ago and is only getting worse.
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>>97327501
Geddit?
MARK
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>>97327576
>If you explicitly write all the shorthand in the game, the cards would be wordier.
Tautology tier insight
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>>97327592
>Tautology tier insight
Yes, but unironically.'
Pretending Yugioh is easier to parse than MTG because MTG hides all its complexity is very stupid.
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>>97327599
>Minor logical mistake
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>>97326866
>what if firebending, but good
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>>97327617
gonna dump my hand with fire bending ascension and windcrag siege
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Is this the answer to cub?
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>>97327671
Basically
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>>97327671
Uhh, Wizards!?
Wh-wh-what if my opponent has hexproof?! And they only have one creature in play!!!
I don't want to ping myself for 1, Wizards!
Why didn't you make this optional!!?!? This is a feel bad!!!
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Planeswalker cards have been in magic for 19 years
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Have they shown this card yet?
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>>97327844
Anon, booster pack art is commissioned specifically for the booster pack aspect ratio and doesn't show up on cards. That's High Perfect Morcant.
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>>97327760
I get what you're trying to do; but that kind of stuff is why I'm glad that I only play with my friends rather than random people
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>>97327408
This is big brain (and also way better than whatever Lazavanon is smoking)
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>>97327838
And they’re now being fucked in the ass because of commander. Make planeswalkers good again. Fuck commander. Fuck Maro. And fuck WoTC.
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>>97326836
>It's Snapcaster but better!
Funny how people then did the exact same thing with Songcrafter mage only for it to flop once again
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>>97328241
Bot.
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>>97328273
No, I am a human being and I’m fucking sick of them shitting on planeswalkers. In commander everyone attacks your planeswalker to keep the game going. They’re also not in UB. I want to see a Q planeswalker but we all know he’ll just be some 5 color monstrosity.
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I hate that Lorwyn/Shadowmoor is filtered and DEI coded and has some shit design decisions but at the same time I like the member berries and like seeing things that looks like from the super block.

I think I will be going for a prerelease after 2 years :(
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Seems all rares and mythics have been spoiled.
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>>97328367
And most of them are unplayable
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>>97328367
Theres only one common and a few uncommona left. Im hoping for a pauper breaking dwarf common. Prefferably for RED TRON.
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Without setting off the bot...just don't play commander.
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>>97324971
probably goes well in yawg-cauldron?
rumble, fetch, surveil all happen anyway and pump it and when you cant go infinite and win with cauldron you can at least just throw young wolves into yawg and get a cheap 7/7 early while waiting for cauldron
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>>97326643
wonder why there aren't any Hobgoblins this set
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>>97324971
Would
Next question
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Long Necks
Boys in the band ordered long necks
Goblins scored some porridge
Everything seems to be wrong

Lately, Towncrier mentioned cheap balloonfare
I've got to fly to Gold meadow
I'm close to bodily harm

20 degress and the Festival is on
Nobody cares, they are way too far gone
Screamin', Long necks
Somethin' to keep them diverse

This morning
I stabbed six holes in my icebox
I think I got cabin fever
Somebody sound the alarm

I'd like to go where the pace of life's slow
Could you beam me somewhere, Mister Scott?
Any old place here on Lorwyn or in Space
You pick the century and I'll pick the plane
Oh I know (I know)

I should be leaving this village
I got a verse but can't rhyme it
I gotta go where it's diverse

Long necks
Waitress, I need two more long necks
Then I'm headin' south 'fore my dream shrinks
I gotta go where it's diverse (I gotta go where it's diverse)
I gotta go where it's diverse (I gotta go where it's diverse)
I gotta go where it's diverse!
I gotta go where there ain't no whites
Where there ain't no crackers, 'cause my fin sinks so low
I gotta go where it's diverse
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Not particularly excited for this set lads.
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>>97328264
>3 colours
This thing was doomed before it ever hit the table.
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>>97328851
3c commanders need love too
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>>97328856
I may have grossly misunderstood their color rules, but aren’t multicolored commanders just as capable of running cards with fewer colors? I’d think it would still be easier to cast for them if it weren’t the full wedge. Or, hell, {1}{G}{U/R}. That’d still count, right?
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>>97328890
yeah but it's a singleton format, more options for you
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>>97328241
>>97328295
Planeswalkers are cancer and they aren't missed.
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>>97324886
that's a "3 mana kills animated bridges in pauper"
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I just realized this is not a Smokebraider reprint what the hell
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>>97328969
Perfect for my 4c Omnath shitpile :)
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>>97328969
They're not going to reprint a shaman into standard.
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I finished Avatar finally, it was good. I started watching The Legend of Korra, and it's like ten times the budget but also gently cgi slop.
But it's just New New Capenna, at least from the first episode. I don't want this in Magic.
But considering Avatar's success, Korra is an inevitability, right?
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>>97328969
It's better.
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>>97329077
>Avatar's success
what are the numbers
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>>97329102
The best selling set since FF.
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>>97329122
It's over.
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>>97329077
do yourself a favor and don't watch Korra
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>>97329077
nah, Korra shat the bed.
it has nowhere near the prevalence ATLA managed to get.
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Now that the entire set has been spoiled, what's the status?
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>>97329186
UW powerlevel
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>>97329186
Mostly unplayable
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>>97329186
turtles is going to BTFO it powerwise
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>Magic players are alienated by UB
>Stop playing
>UW sets sell less than UB
>Wizards prints more UB
>More OG Magic players leave
>UW sells even less
>etc

how do we stop this death spiral?
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>>97329186
I think it looks alright. It's going to be the last prerelease I will ever attend. I do hope my pool will not force me into the new boggarts because they look lame and gay compared to the original ones.
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>>97329186
The power level is as it should be.
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>>97329122
>The best selling set since FF.
source?
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>>97329186
The first competitive tournament with this set will look like the Aetherdrift one where there like 2 total copies of Aetherdrift cards in the entire tourney.
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>>97329074
>game about magic won't have Shamans

MUSLIMS RUN WIZARDS OF THE COAST, THEY THINK THEIR OWN GAME IS HARAM
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>>97329210
I forget where I read this, but if my memory serves me it was in some reliable source.
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>>97329227
"Chance Encounter" and "Game of Chaos" are just objectively haram
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>>97329227
Clerics and Bishops are fine though :)
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>>97329186
UBtourists won
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>>97324886
Ketramose hate
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>>97329219
This. This is the final form of extended Standard rotation - entire sets will simply not get played because the pool is too deep.
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>>97325741
Honestly, I don't mind them being black, specifically. I do mind that the battle cry is "diversity" and yet it's 99% of the time white character to black character. Never any interesting reinterpretation as another race or culture, and certainly never ever in the other direction. Even something basic like I dunno, Mongol Rohirrim or Mexica Esgaroth. It just comes off as creatively bankrupt or even fetishistic.
>t. neither black nor white
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You lost, incel.
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>>97325845
Post your favorite Standard deck and which cards in it should be banned.
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>>97329210
Mark himself
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>>97326534
Guess this is the one set I'm not drafting Izzet. Well, much like FF. I don't care for the 4MV spell thing.
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>>97329310
ARE MTGO AND ARENA RIGGED TO CAUSE HIGH IQ PLAYERS TO AN HERO?
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>>97326679
I'll need to play it. The art is very good on the whole and I like several of the mechanics like the -1/-1 removal as a cost and the dual-color evoke, but it remains to be seen how it comes together. I'm positive on it so far.
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Speaking of Amonkhet, I'm brewing some counters kino in Pioneer.
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>>97329312
Post your face and address.
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>>97329074
What’s the issue with shamans? Wtf
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>>97328851
I tried to make TDM Temur work with Harmonize card and all, but for a 3-color pip card you need to have massive upside. I have a deck based around forcing shit like Flamehold Grappler and Shiko, mind.
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>>97329077
Seasons 3 and 4 of Korra are better than 1 and 2, but they never approach ATLA's peaks. Some fanastic fights in season 3 at least.
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>>97329373
Shaman and tribal reminds the consultants of their inherent inferiority. So, they censored it
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>>97329186
Fun, if maybe a bit weak. I'm sad that there's no 1-2 mana Changelings.

>>97329368
Beitar street 3-1, Ramla. Don't have a camera on hand.
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>>97329399
>season 4
>good
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Say his name chud.
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>>97329414
soul
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>>97329452
Ragavan Tribal
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>>97329427
"Better". It's relative. Kuvira was funny in that usual "bad guy is objectively correct so uhhhh we'll have them randomly start doing cartoonishly evil shit so the protags still have the moral high ground" way.
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>>97329414
Kek so it’s brown consultants pissed off about their heritage? I can’t imagine how depressed these people are. No one I have ever met had an issue with shamans or tribal.
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>>97329452
Zidane Kindred
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>>97329452
best FF protag by the way
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>>97329486
God dammit, I lost.
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>>97329077
Korra is an awful show with better budget
Even watching the first two seasons will scar your mind so save yourself when you still can
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>>97329186
Im in love with the new Kithkin design.

>>97328773
Imagine receiving a bj, a sloppy toppy if you will from one of these giraffes. I think this is an untapped source for shortstack erotica. Instead of focusing on the chest and posterior, but on long gentle necks. This brings out more feminine beauty and a forgotten part of the shortstack erotica. Not to mention this purely distincts the kithkin and the halfling from the cultural zeitgeist. Not to mention the whole shared mind experience they have, trully a botomless well for ERP fanfiction. Bravo WotC art director! Bravo!
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>>97329333
>mark himself
>reliable
>the man that said ub would never pollute actual formats
lol lmao even
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>>97329565
He is not in charge. He says what's correct at the time.
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>>97329186
>Now that the entire set has been spoiled
Has it? Aren't we missing a few of the mythic Evoke fuckers?
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>>97329186
Good art, unplayable power level, as the other anon said this set first tournament will have like two cards seeing play and let’s not forget TMNT will surely blow this whole set out with the power creep.

So very sad for the “best” set of this year.
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>>97329571
If I have ever made a correct statement in my life, be assured that it was by mistake
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>>97329077
The big problem with Legend of Korra is outside of Korra the quality of waifus is non existent. it should be a secret lair at best.
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>>97329586
Why are mechanics these days just rehashes of things we've seen before?
>Manifest Dread is just stapling Surveil and Manifest together
>Waterbending is literally Convoke except you can also tap artifacts
>Sneak is Ninjutsu except it can go on non-creatures
>Vivid is Domain but for nonland permanents
Did they learn nothing from Megamorph?
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>>97329483
They have woke physiognomy. After they were noticed the hid their client list but wotc is on it.
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>>97329647
These people are so ashamed of the color of their skin it’s not even funny. Arguably this has to be the parents fault on their upbringing. They literally seethe at the first sign of anything Caucasian. Essentially they are massive losers.
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>>97329641
Because the game is over 30 years old now?
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>>97329647
I love how feminism exists exclusively to harm whites.
It's its only purpose.
Women really thought it was about them... poor sad losers retards.
Got duped with no effort at all.
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>>97325015
>tree of perdition into this
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>>97329688
All the more reason to not add dumb new bloat mechanics that eerily resemble old mechanics and will likely never be seen again. The fact that every set is standalone now makes this even worse. We need blocks back pretty desperately.
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And yet... the writing was on the wall 10 years ago...
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>>97329647
this set is for everyone. they even threw in an Austrian painter in there to please the chuds.
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>>97329744
Statistically how many fucking brown ass looking mothafuckas even play this game? I would also like to ask that same question regarding women. My guess is both is in single digits. Throw them a bone, sure. But the numbers that show in the amount of art makes it appear that this game is enjoyed by everyone and not just mostly white guys. Has anyone ever asked mark nosewater this?
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>>97329077
It's nowhere near as fleshed out as ATLA to ever be a set, there's like no fire nation stuff anywhere in that show ever
way less side-characters, lore, places, creatures and spirits comparatively

There would sooner be an adult Aang gang secret lair before any Korra stuff. Korra over and done forever unlike Aang gang who's getting a movie at the end of the year
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>>97329333
I thought TDM was the most profitable set of the year
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>>97329739
>New mechanics that are very similar to old ones we will never see again
That's been every magic set since like the late 90s. Original Lorywn in particular was filled with mechanical bloat like Prowl, Reinforce, Conspire and Retrace etc mechanics that are either largely pointless or samey variants on other mechanics they'd done multiple times already even by that point
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>>97328241
Reminder that Kikewater said white now “cares the MOST about planeswalkers” and yet they keep printing these grotesque dog shit Ajani’s
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Be careful: there's a schizotranny that camps this board and whenever you talk shit about the monsters he fangirls for like Epstein or sweetbaby he calls you a schizo and accuses you of being from /v/, he mainly lurks the warhammer threads but when he gets notified chuds are getting rowdy he starts dripping from his armpits and deploys himself wherever needed, he's also in bed with the jannies.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95353789/#95359258

Don't talk shit about netflix lorwyn.
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not Magic the Gathering
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>>97329770
From what I've heard and seen, a majority of the UB players tend to be women. My sister didn't get into the game until long after I told her about it when her boyfriend got her one of the Fallout commander decks. The only people I've played against besides the tryhard running Vivi that had UB standard decks have all been women. A lot of brown nerds also seem to gravitate towards UB for some reason, I've seen a lot of them online getting hyped for the Spider-Man and TMNT sets specifically.
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>>97329842
You're not a woman either.
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>>97329770
Bloomburrow brought in a noticeable amount of women. I don't think Lorwyn will do the same, it doesn't have the same appeal, but it's not hard to see why they're gunning for it.
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>>97329770
Many many women play this game! Vaginas are a different question.
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>>97329802
Only for UW. FF broke all records by a gigantic margin.
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>>97329856
And every day I thank Jesus Christ for this fact.
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>>97329879
You replied the same exact words a thousand times.
You are a mentally ill man.
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>>97329879
Pimozide, now.
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What are the odds this card and/or the shitty Fatal Push remain the top played nonland cards from the set for the entirety of its standard legality?



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