dead before bump limit edition▶What is Kingdom Death?Kingdom Death is a tabletop miniature brand stared by Adam Poots and operated by himself and his Team that later spun off into a miniature based bored game funded by two very successful Kickstarter campaigns.▶What is Kingdom Death: Monster?Monster is a Nightmare Horror cooperative boss battler/miniature hobby game for 1-4 players about hope in a strange world of bizarre monstrosities and perpetually darkness. Players take on the role of survivors that band together to form a settlement, fighting monsters, crafting weapons and gear, and developing their civilization to ensure survival from generation to generation.Prologue Narration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLc8dHv0AcThe Game is broken up into 3 phases:1. During your Hunt Phase your band of survivors traverse the world of KD in pursuit of their quarry.2. After successfully tracking your quarry you will begin the Showdown Phase, where you must fell these horrific creatures in order to acquire precious resources.3. After the battle, your survivors wander home with loot in hand to begin the Settlement Phase. Arm yourself by developing new weapons and bizarre structures to prepare for next year's hunt.A successful game campaign takes place over the course of 25 to 30 'lantern years' maximum, marked by completing one full phase cycle. Watch as your settlement grows and witness the survivors write their own narrative as they age. Hone your strategy and learn from your mistakes to overcome the immense odds in this cruel and twisted nightmare scape.▶tldrFinal Fantasy Tactics meets Dark Souls meets Monster Hunter meets Civilization with the setting of the eclipse in Berserk but shit just stayed that way.▶Official Siteshttp://kingdomdeath.com/https://kingdomdeath.com/newshttps://kingdomdeath.com/rules/living-glossaryprevious lantern year:>>97226604
So how's the settlement going, Anon?
Uuuhh my New Year’s resolution is to finally start painting the minisThis year’s for reals this time Uuh pinky promiseAaany day now
>>97327595my new year's resolution is to kill myself
>>97327595I bought it for black friday along with gce and some expansions.My goal is to finish painting the core game (minus the armor sets because I'm magnetizing those) before the end of the year.
>>97327226After an atrocious start, lost 2 on prolog fight to horrendous rolls, and 3 more on the second fight. we made it back on our feet and got our first raw hide set. I wanted to go full style on this run and the group agreed to add flower knight for the first time. Going to be sad if the fights as bad as people say (currently painting it)
>>97328002Good luck anon, I believe in youSend me some of your minis before you do it though
>>97327226Doing alright, two deaths but starting on getting a super survivor with 2 strength, 2 evasion, and 1 luck so far. Killed 3 white lions and got a Rawhide set and part of a white lion set up (using CE). Facing the butcher next, I would have LIKED to have some monster grease but on year 3 I had a choice between antelope and white lion and I went with white lion in the hopes I could get a cat gut bow and circlet. I got neither. So I guess we're going this one raw.
>>97329648>>97328199And I thought my settlement was doing bad after three losses.
>>97329648>>97332885AIEEE IM GETTING KICK LOOPED SAVE ME SCRIBE MAN
>>97334758>somehow manage to get through that fight with no deaths, just one heavily injured soon to be breeding bitch >return to settlement >draw plague >3 of the returning survivors die anyway, everyone but the cripple Sometimes I really hate this game
>>97327226I'm at around LY20 and I think I need to fuck as much as possible this lantern year and the next one to hopefully get to 22 pop (4 hunters + 2 full supporting watcher whatchamacallits) and fight the watcher early at LY21 or 22
>>97327226Crit the Frogdog on his Eye twice, so we've already witnessed two omens by LY 3. Been trying to show off a variety of Monsters to my buds but they only want to hunt the Frogdog now ...
>>97328199You want 1 death during the prologue to unlock death principle. Otherwise it's cringe af when you lose 3 and get nothing.
>>97337918Do omens do anything yet? Their supposed to be a part of the inverted mountain campaign but that's not out yet for like another 4-5 years. I think pariah and maybe BK have them too
Is this model as 100% going to snap as it looks? Do you pin that tiny support?
>>97341627why would it snap? this is a painter's scale mini in plastic, not resin, and it's for sitting on your shelf looking (hopefully) good
Honestly I feel like drawing perfect resources off the bat in the early years is such a curse, because I want to save them which cripples my early game resource efficiency. I almost wish they were only added to the deck for level 2+ monsters only
>>97326612I jerk my dick to my minis, but I'm not enough of a degen to jerk my dick ON my minis. Definitely getting my money's worth (6 figs btw)
>>97346737why tf did I say 6, I meant 4
>>97327226First time doing PotSun and on the last couple of hunts (just hit LY5) I keep forgetting that I don't have encourage; hasn't made much of a difference but I need to remember it mechanically. But I did get quite lucky and get a Sanctuary Sword for a Founding Stone on LY2 (but them men I keep giving it to keep dying on the hunt). Besides losing my two purified survivors the settlement is just trucking along.
>>97328199I haven't had a bad fight with the Flower Knight, but yeah the first level was certainly easy in comparison with the second.
>>97339663You can spend 3 of them to trigger a Story Event if your Mere Navi is still alive. Decent outcomes on most of the rolls too!>>97345161and how many times have you lost literally everything in storage from the 50/50 roll on Conviction ...
So, is the KDS worth it now? Thinking of buying the core game + gambler's chest key, but does it come with features to actually make running the game with setup and shit easier? I've heard that the tracking for gambler's chest shit is nightmarish without scribe.
>>97351774I would say that right now, playing on the simulator itself is mostly okay (moving characters, rolling dice, readability, etc). There are still a lot of bugs and whatnot (desu I don't really find it excusable, but it is a small team so I am trying to give them some grace), but for PotDK I would probably recommend using Scribe in addition to the simulator. A lot of people have brought up issues of things not writing properly to character sheets automatically, I think I've heard about showdowns also not setting up properly because it doesn't check all the appropriate cards, etc. etc.
>>97345161I hate that resources are random drops, yeah I get that its for balance and monster hunter did it like this as well but, you supposedly keep the entire monster after a hunt, even in the prologue fight it shows that you drag the entire corpse of the white lion to the new settlement after you win.
>>97353840My head canon is that the drops you get are what's salvageable after you fucking wrecked it.
>>97345161I'm not sure if you're supposed to have x2 of each Perfect Resource in your deck with GCE, but I do it anyways because I basically treat them as normal resources for the first 10 Lantern Years.
>>97358364No, you're only supposed to have 1x. The GCE instructions mention this, it includes the extra set in case you didn't already have the card pack.
>>97358513Eh, I didn't see it when I read it the first time. I really think they just have too many systems repeated too many times across too many different products. Someone else is definitely going to do what I did and miss that if it's now in 1.6, the upgrade pack, and now in GCE repeating all this content.
>>97359216read the fucking instructions for new content you buy roody-poo
>>97355229you are guaranteed the lions balls if you DO wrecked them though.
>>97360552I always enjoy getting ambushed by an angry mother lion upset that we killed her cub, and then cutting her balls off.
The problem with this game is that to make it good you HAVE to houserules some things
>>97363537Nope. Game's fantastic fully vanilla. But please, tell us more about how you ignore every meaningful rule in the rulebook, it's fun to listen to your retardation.
>>97338504having 1 random resource doesn't match having 1 survivorTurn it the other way aroundWould you trade 4 random resources for 4 survivors?
>>97363565>burning half your total storage including equipment for a chance of +1str is FANTASTIC!??
>>97338504Nah, best outcome is all survivors live, get love juice, have a successful baby and then roll 10 starting survivors for the first day. You unlock new life and society principles right away.Technically the min max is lose one survivor and then roll twins and +10 starting survivors for exactly 15 but that's super rare.
>>97363644But if you unlock 15 early you bring the hand fucks with no gear and get stomped and lose 4
>>97363565>Harvester loverKeep yourself safe retard
>>97365765>wah wah a rare event happened that made me lose for once and that's badCry more faggot, getting fucked over sometimes is part of the experience. Loose yourselves from the binds of the meta and that faggot Fen and have some fun sometimes and deal with the consequences when they come up.
>>97366280You sound like a faggot that does nothing but dick ride things you like with no actually ability to conceptualize that things you like might have some negatives. Maybe try thinking critically about how the actual design of the gameplay and realize that while getting dicked over is part of the experience, it does offer a sizable disincentive to actually experimenting with aspects of the game if there is exactly one event that under no uncertain terms says "Thanks for playing with various aspects of the game, enjoy being killed with no recourse during the section of the game that is designed to deprive you of resources before you get crushed to death".When your prefrontal cortex develops more and you can think about the various aspects of game design, I look forward to how you defend this fuck ass event.
>>97366280>Kingdom Death>getting fucked over (((sometimes)))Me when I go to being disingenuous competition but the faggot anon is already there
>>97366280what a fucking bootlicking tool lolImagine having the brain of this retardThis has to be the marvelslop or starwarslop fan version, but for TTRPGsJust ignoring all critics and eating NOMNOMNOM all the slop good or bad
>>97341698I have several figures that were made by sculptors who forgot about gravity+time, and ended up with their thin ankles unable to support the off-center weight above them, leading to leaning.Plastic deforms and continues to deform.
>>973670171) jap figures are usually ABS/PVC, kdm and other plastic models are PS, different plastics = different physical properties, in my experience anime figures are less rigid and more flexible than plastic models2) jap figures are solid through and through which makes them heavier and experience higher forces, plastic models are usually hollow inside and therefore are lighter and are subject to smaller forces
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>>97367087>different plastics = different physical propertiesPlastics deform by essentially developing microscopic tears. Even particularly strong plastic resins, like those used as the matrix for carbon fiber/fiber materials, still suffer from this type of deformation, significantly reducing its lifespan compared to non-plastic materials . Even though the material may be incredibly strong, both continuous stress and cycles of stress can lead to the material failing before either a wooden or metal version would, with often the only way to detect the damage before catastrophic failure being the use of ultrasound equipment.Every plastic structure that is off-balanced and with a thin support will eventually develop a lean, which will in turn make it even more off-balanced, accelerating the rate of damage. Though, depending on the design and the material, this may take years or even decades, with factors including everything from heating-cooling cycles, ambient vibrations, and UV exposure potentially accelerating the damage.Depending on how >>97341627 is balanced, that support may be under very little lateral stress at all, and survive a century before toppling. But, one thing I've noticed is that larger figures are significantly more prone to ankle fatigue (which makes sense, because though the ankle diameter may be larger, the weight it is supporting increases following the square-cube law). The good news is that Painters's Scale is still well below the size of the larger figures where ankle lean becomes almost commonplace, but the bad news is that even figures that look fairly well balanced may be undergoing quite a lot of invisible stress. Let's just hope the designers didn't spend too much time in the digital world and remembered the effect of physical forces.
God it's been a while since I've done a vanilla campaign, fuck armored strangers. Time to -4 survivors to save my giga survivor I guess.
>>97366908>>97366927>>97366961Look at all this fucking seethe. Goddamn. Someone really struck a nerve.You keep doing you, man. You want to puss out and houserule anything that inconveniences you? "Oh that's not FAIR I have to HOUSERULE THAT!" Sure, whatever. I have 100% faith that every time you trot that argument out it's from a principled position from a deep understanding game design and not just you being a salty bitch. It's definitely because you understand how the game should be moreso than the game's developers and NOT at ALL because you have the emotional depth of a toddler who just lost their favorite toy. Definitely.
>>97367336>the [plastic] failing before either a wooden or metal version would.Obviously in a general context yes, but I feel it's a bit disingenuous to state that here without the qualifier that pretty much any currently practical alternative is going to have more drawbacks, and be more fragile, than plastic for miniatures, especially high detail ones.If you notice lean decades down the line, just pin it, bruh. (Even that basra base is thick enough to accommodate a wire with careful drilling.)Maybe I'm reading more doomerism into your post than you intended, if so, sorry, but really - its an easily mitigated issue, unless one goes full Impermanism.
>>97368322>I'm actually really smart an I made them seethe!Bro lolMaybe you are just retarded and everyone is laughing at you kek
>>97367087>in my experience anime figures are less rigid and more flexible than plastic modelsStiffness and creep resistance are two different properties. Dunno which creeps the least of PS, PVC and ABS, but I do know we can't tell just from which seems the most rigid.
>>97367336>and remembered the effect of physical forcesdoubt
>>97370125Aren't kdm minis still hand sculpted? At least, I remember Screaming God and Ivory Dragon were
>>97370267>handsculpted, which would mean scan and clean and retopo for the chink factory that will print the plastic, X10 the work just for optics, as you won't get a hansculpted thing you'll get a plastic sprue digitally cut>handsculpteddoubt
>>97370313>X10 the work just for opticsNigga the fuck do you think the word boutique means
>>97370518Brother you don't need to give me the ad selling points, I'm not a retardIf the piece is cool is cool, you don't need to pile up shit like "b-but this minis are boutique!" "I b-buy them because they are rococó minis! Huh search for what rococó means if you don't believe me!"If this is the first time you see high quality details in minis, that's it's not my faultNothing of that has anything to do with being handmade or not, my fucking chair is made by a carpenter down the block and it's not "bouthiqué"
>>97368322Rather than compliment you on your ability to type coherent, albeit criminally stupid, sentences while suffering from oxygen deprivation from choking yourself on cock, I am instead going to attempt to engage in a good faith argument with you. This is going to be a waste of my time since I clearly talking to a professional at fellatio, and clearly I need some lessons. Harvester:This event cannot be rerolled or avoided in any way.~flavor text~ All survivors gain 1 random disorder and must spend 1 survival or be devoured whole. If any survivor has noisy gear, the Harvester is drawn to the sound and they are instantly devoured. Nothing can save them. ~flavor text & no death principle~So, this event is the only event in the game that has no ability to be avoided through re-rolls and has "Kill a survivor if they *specific type of gear*". There is no other base hunt event with text that expressly reads this way. All other kill events (Feet, 63) have some other stipulations associated with them. For event 63, the kill only occurs if all survivors on the hunt are insane, and if you are *not* playing SotF. In terms of punishment, I would say that this drastically out of line and is a massive outlier in terms of design and balance.Noisy Gear Core Only:- Whisker Harp: 50/50 discard a mood is pretty dang good, but arguably more productive stuff to do- Drums: encourage everyone and 1ins on arrival is fineHow are either of these two pieces of base gear worth the 1% risk of instant death? This event design is limiting for future expansions, 1% chance to lose a survivor whole sale for the next hunt is ridiculous, and if you're playing with scouts you should NEVER bring anything noisy precisely because that pillar incentivizes very safe play. The design space of the game is indirectly telling you to not play with these things because it is an almost instant hunt end.If you can pick the pubes out of your teeth, please tell me how I'm wrong.
>>97370641The game is not supposed to be fair. Yes, Harvester is unfair, and that's fine. The game is supposed to be punishing. The game is supposed to have things in it that feel unfair, because life in the Kingdom Death universe is unfair and cruel and uncaring. That's what this event is supposed to represent, and without things like this the game is worse off. The edge disappears.Kingdom Death is not some incredibly well balanced pristinely manicured gameplay experience. If you want that, go play Gloomhaven, it's also very good in its own right. KD is supposed to be raw and uncaring and unfair. But if you just handwave all that away because you want something super balanced, in my opinion you're playing an inferior game. I have better games. I can, and do, play them. But when I play Kingdom Death I want Kingdom Death.
>>97370747>The game is not supposed to be fair>The game is supposed to be punishing>The game is supposed to have things in it that feel unfairNot that anon, but if I game can't balance the amount of unfairness in a way that prevents you from not having fun, then the "game" (Game: noun1.an activity that one engages in for amusement or fun.) doesn't existIf there are more "unfair" things than fun things in your "game" then it's not a game palYou can absolutely have fun with majority unfairness in a way a masochist have fun being beaten with a stick, sure, but that doens't make being beaten with a stick fun, you are just abnormalIn my opinion, the vanilla game is NOT fun, so I houserule a lot of unfair stupid shit to make it more fun (while still having some unfairness, which the game has plenty off)
>>97370835And that's where I get to mock you for it, because the reality is the game is not that hard. Unfair elements like harvester are one of the few things that can actually screw up a campaign once you know how to play the game. You complaining that there are tons of unfair things just reveals how bad you actually are at the game.
>>97370641NTA, what’s also ridiculous to me in terms of the Harvester event is that instead of noisy gear being some kind of rare situational sidegrades that (as a concept) isn’t really expanded upon, it’s in fact the opposite and there has been a significant amount of new noisy gear in the expansionsHell, GCE adds a quarry SPECIFICALLY focused on noisy gearAnd what’s the current intended fix for the noisy gear that Poots came up with? That’s right, two 60 dollar white boxes (one of which is also seasonal) that provide bandaid solutions and add SOME counterplay to harvesterImagine if you were playing Monster Hunter and each time you went on a hunt wearing a helmet, there was a 1% chance that you would instalose and get your save deleted instead, unless you purchased a 20$ once-per-character mcguffin that takes up another armor slot and prevents this from happening
>>97370860Na you are just being a little bitchIt just so happen that you have absolutely 0, nada, nones no argument for harvesterBut it's actually like 20-30% of the events that result in "you die" scenarios.
>>97370877All that can be avoided by a simple houserule like i said, for 0 dollars, which spawned this chain of replies>>97363537
>>97370877I love the model of Winter Solstice Lucy, but the band-aid design of that piece of gear, and then the KDM team saying they have no plans to change Harvester really pisses me off. Basically saying "we think this design is fine, give us $60 to mitigate the 1% chance of killing your run".I didn't even get into the expansions in my original post because half of that would have devolved into my frustration that they're planning on changing the Gorn in one of the future card packs to get noisy. It's a war-horn that requires you to blow into it, that shit is nowhere near the concept of noisy in comparison to a damn drum.Oh and don't even get me started on the Verspertine Cello; really cool design for doing a "band" build if you want to kill 4 characters in one go.
>>97367393The move has always been resist with your worst survivors
>>97371478Yea well I just lost 3 of my best survivors to plague right after barely surviving butcher so I'm kind of in a bad spot right now
>>97372013best houserule for that is the plague effect being lingering, so if you have a chance, materials, and good RNG luck, you build ammonia and with some more RNG cure those niggers
>>97371378>But it's actually like 20-30% of the events that result in "you die" scenarios.And this is where the problem is. Once you start making one change, now the gate is wide open to change everything. And before you know it you aren't playing Kingdom Death any more but something else completely different.Your problem is that you want the game to be something other than what it is. If you want a tight, balanced game system there are much much better options than Kingdom Death. Kingdom Death is a story generator, that's its strength. It's not the game you want to play.
>>97372128Maybe this would come as a shocker to you, but just because you paid for it, and it came in a sealed box, doesn't mean the game is a good complete gameDoesn't mean it's good, perfectly balanced as intended and working speckless.This also happens in many AAA digital games equivalent of this AAA tabletop, massive in scope and with many many variables.The only difference being, in digital format, you get something called a "patch" that fix little things that makes the game better/less broken.But you have to pay for that benefit on cardboard version, piggyBecause you have to pay for it, you OVERLOOK the flaws it may have on it's complexity/scope, and call it "perfectly good in all accounts as intended it's like that it's supposed to be bad in this section it's supposed to be trash on this part"
>>97372128And while I agree with you that the game does have a large amount of those "You die" scenario in the hunt phase, the vast vast majority of them actually have some type of "counter-play" associated with them. Many of them are involved in some capacity with rolling on hunt events, but typically will typically have some type of bonus if you have a whip, sickle, pickaxe, etc. The whip I think is a perfect example here, with traditionally lower damage during the showdown, but with a good specialization and mastery, it's a support tool that excels when brought in addition to another weapon for the hunt phase.Harvester is the outlier precisely because it is not really generating an interesting story. You simply decided to bring (in core) one or two early game items that can fill out some slots, and you were punished for it by having that character be killed, your hunt will probably end in failure because it's early on, and now you're down 4 characters and 8 additional resources. If it's before the butcher, your settlement is basically over and now you're going through the motions of watching the rest of your settlement get clubbed to death like a bunch of baby seals.I get that your argument is all about flavor and story-telling, but I personally don't find the story "rocks fall, everyone dies" to be interesting.
>>97372240I think you're vastly overstating the effect of one survivor dying in the hunt phase. I've had plenty of hunts with a dead hunt phase survivor or 1-2 round showdown phase death come back just fine. And even if it doesn't a wipe is not the end of the world in this game. Maybe a wipe plus a bunch of other bad luck on top of it, but just a wipe by itself is basically nothing you're going to have 1-2 of those a campaign anyways. The game is way more forgiving than you think it is, and survivors (especially early) matter a lot less than you make it out to be.
>>97372293It's actually more the loss of 8 resources if things go south that I would find back breaking than losing the survivors in the early game. But my own biases of being historically unlucky in my own campaigns is bleeding in here, I am certainly an outlier for early game wipes.
>introduce 3 friends to the game>one of them decides to play as a bard and crafts the whisker harp>proceed to roll the 1% instakill event during the hunt phase>now "the bard" gets to sit on their phone for the entire showdown (with a non 0 chance to abandon playing the game after that entirely) while the rest of us struggle against the quarry because fights are balanced around 4 survivors, not 3Amazing game design, bravo :^)
>>97373192this is why house rules are a must.
>>97372128making changes in a tabletop game is like modding on a video game, you don't have to mod every little thing, just change some annoying stuff and thats it.
>>97373957And just like video game models anyone doing is a flagrant cheater is denial. Just look at how Community Edition turns the game into easy mode by doing nothing but mindlessly buffing "bad" options.
>>97376326>if you use a mod you are a cheaterMaybe if the game wasn't trash to begin with I wouldn't need a mod
Every time I feel bad about my skills as a painter I look at some of the models that were submitted for the pinup painting contest.>>97373192This is why you should have let the bard play as the monster and just pass the controller token around to change who gets the benefit when targeted.
>>97379999>This is why you should have let the bard play as the monster and just pass the controller token around to change who gets the benefit when targeted.See? This is a houserule.This is not on the book.It makes perfect sense to be in it. It's not.But the other fanboy nigger would say "Nonononono you are cheating!!He should suck it up!"
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>>97381406Page 226? The Game Variants?I'm really really hoping you arent pointing out using new game+ variants of the game in the core when it's convenient anon, that sounds like modding.Storyteller variant that, by the way, say they NEVER control a survivor.So you mean to say that the new player that lost his character, never play a survivor again and it's always the monster for the rest of the campaign? The new player picks the settlement event?
>he's still seething over being called outYou love to see it
So, does everyone else just replace the choreia innovation requirement in green knight armor with petal spiral? It just makes way more sense and doesn't require shoving in spidicules for no reason, and thus I can fit in dragon king as my node 3 instead and have my knight slay a proper dragon (DK level 3).
Oh boy, a pair of slendermans on ebay, one for purchase for $250 and one on auction at a much lower price at the same time! I'm sure this isn't a trick and they won't spike the price of the auction to $200+ within the last few hours like the last 3 times I've tried to get slendy on ebay.
>>97384820Just wait until CoD releases my dude, it's highly likely they'll do a reprint of the out of stock expansions that weren't adapted for the node system yet.
>>97384820>>97384869>tfw I have every expansion except Gorm, Lion Knight, Manhunter, Slenderman, and Spidiculespoots you motherfucker print more expansions
>>97384869>Just wait until CoD releases my dudeBut I want it sometime before 2042 tho
>>97385119>But I want it sometime before 2042 tho*2085
>order my group each a set of different KDM dice as an Xmas gift.>also got a set of stoneface basesAlmost 2 weeks later>stone bases came in almost instantly, but none if the dice have gone past 'confirmed'Anyone else get these problems? Bought them all together. Figured they'd ship together with the same warehouse.
>>97391627Stone face bases ship from their “regular” US warehouse, dice ship from HQMy christmas order from HQ that I placed on december 26 still hasnt been shipped
>>97391627My HQ order got a shipping label on the 14th and got into USPS hands on the 16th, there's a delay since they went on holiday until after the new year.
>>97392467>>97392124I placed this order on the 25th btw, so if they're going by when people placed the orders you should see movement soon.
i regret not preordering the new wanderer during BF:(
>>97385119>>97389507>preorder estimated release 2026they started printing them in like august im pretty sure, and adam's wife did the estimates this time instead of him so i trust them morealso slenderman has a campaign in cod>People of the Gloom so it's almost guaranteed they'll do another run of him at some point around cod's release if cod doesn't come with a different plastic slendy
Man actually fuck you Poots, I knew I shouldnt follow the official Gambler assembly instructions, shits all fucked up and doesnt properly fit now
>>97392713post the fucked instructionsoff the top of my head, I know the killenium butcher (don't put the beetle on till the end or you'll have to remove/cut it) and sunstalker (put the tongue in before you put the mouth pieces together if you don't want to hate yourself) have dumb instruction steps in them, and lonely tree skips some pictures so there's shit it doesn't tell you to add that shows up in a picture suddenly
>>97392774just literally skip ALL of the official instructions for the sphere assemblyThe guide instructs you to start assembling it column-wise starting from column A3-A7 then gluing the top piece E1 and then proceeding further in some fucked up schizophrenic orderHowever doing this FUCKS THE BALL UP because parts A3-A7 end up blocking the neighboring parts and you are unable to fit parts with vertical slits (D1, D2, A1, A2) around themI had to cut shit off the neighboring parts just to fit them and ended up sawing off the top piece E1 from the sphere after gluing it because it was fucking everything upJudging from r*ddit the ACTUAL order is either:>glue the parts that go into vertical slits (a1, a2, b1 b2 c1 c2 d1 d2) first then fill the restor>build it row by row instead of column by columnBut my actual suggestion is to follow ANY instructions very cautiously (or don't even follow them at all) and instead dry fit all the parts first to figure out the best order
>>97392859>But my actual suggestion is to follow ANY instructions very cautiously (or don't even follow them at all) and instead dry fit all the parts first to figure out the best orderMy dude if you put shit together without dry fitting it first then you deserve to have such a difficult time building
>>97392867I dry fit a small amount of parts - e.g 2-3 at the time, here you fucking have to dry fit half if not the entire sphere first
>>97392877now I'm not saying the instructions aren't bad, because they arebut a basic glance at the picture you posted shows the pieces are going to be a problem later since the heads all overlay where the next piece goes
>>97392886I'm not saying this isn't on me for not paying enough attention either but this is the first time (for me) when the official build guide is just absolutely fucking wrong (I've seen small missteps like with killy butcher but nothing completely FUBAR, until now) so I didn't have that many reasons to doubt the instructions in their entiretyJust wanted to warn others to not make the same mistakes as I didBesides this one no other KDM mini gave me as much trouble tbqh
>>97392918No biggie, here's the ones I know of>Lonely Tree skips steps>Gorm penis should be put on while putting the back half on the front half, not after it's already glued>Sunstalker tongue should be put on sooner so you don't hate yourself>Killy butcher base should be done last, not first, due to the centipede blocking his cape>Ignore gambler's ball entirely, dryfit with stickytack before doing a gluebtw I'm pretty sure with your ball you could have trimmed down the slots that insert into the holes to be able to force the pieces in at an angle instead of having to cut parts off.
>>97392940>btw I'm pretty sure with your ball you could have trimmed down the slots that insert into the holes to be able to force the pieces in at an anglethat's what I did, which worked fine for the bottom row, but for the top row the topmost piece was interfering with a proper fit (maybe I glued it slightly off alignment, idk) so I had to saw it off and will reglue it back at the very end
>>97370641>is indirectly telling you to not play with these things because it is an almost instant hunt endOkay, so use the noisy gear during nemesis fights you fucking absolute pussy.
Scale modeler here.Protip: Before assembly, carefully study the instructions and see what makes sense and what not, make annotations and have your own plan.If you have trouble imagining: I am currently building a biplane. It will be silver. However, the struts are wood. Because masking and handpainting shit when also doing airbrush is a terrible way to do things on an already assembled plane (nonwithstanding being able to reach all the inner surfaces on an assembled plane even when going monocolor or something), I had to make a plan and order how to properly paint and then assemble stuff.Instructions mainly tell you what goes where; they don't necessarily give you the proper order for what you want to do. And the KDM instructions are just plain terrible.
>>97395616>Instructions mainly tell you what goes where; they don't necessarily give you the proper order for what you want to doYes, in retard fucking world, your world, perhaps it works like that sureIn this world, if your paper doesn't have the correct assembly order, that's just schematicsINSTRUCTION on normal world INSTRUCT you the way of doing something, and obviously DO NOT leave stuff to the interpretation of the nigger that needs the instructionsWell maybe in your word, the retard word, "instructions" are like that, sure that's a possibility
>>97392774Nta, but i have seen a few of the survivor builds on thw site not updated for some survivors that got more/less parts. I think it's can remember lion knight girls and some of the parts in 10 year survivors. Also, let's not forget the absolute peak of customer assistance that is showing the peices going on the back of the model, but not show a single image of the back of the model and where it goes. Pic related is one example, and its a peice with specific grooved part on it, but dose not fit easily anywhere I can see. Dung beetle is another example with the eye stalks or whatever on the back.
>>97396303>expecting pootler to do actual work on the backend instead of just dreaming up his next shitty narrative DnD character to sell to retarded peoplelol
Man, how the hell are you supposed to be ready for node 2 nemeses by ly9, does poots actually expect me to do nothing but hunt white lion for 9 years and have a full leather set + shield in time?
>>97394480>nemesis fights desuLook you absolute knuckle dragging simian; if you put two subpar items into a core set and then put an instant-kill that's associated with those two items, you are telling your average player to not bring those. I don't think calling me a pussy and then bringing up nemesis fights is a good argument. Nemesis hunts account for 7 on average in a campaign, and even then, you probably have better things to do with your gear 99% of the time. I am saying that the game is pushing even mid-experienced players away from bringing these items on a core game experience, but this doesn't even account for all the expansions that focus on this gear (smoggos).Generate an actual argument next time instead of just wiping your ass with your bare hand and then reading the shit streaks to generate your response.
>>97396613I've basically stopped using the build guides and build based on vibes (aka tits go on body, body goes on legs, then figure out the rest)that or just pop open the store page or a painted picture for whatever I'm building and look at the back/side views when needed.
>>97400075>Look you absolute knuckle dragging simianI don't have to take this shit from a retard who forgot about nemesis fights lmao. The music stuff is fantastic for them, and you completely skipped over them despite how much more dangerous they are compared to normal hunts. The hunt phase is also NOT GOOD to be in dumbass. Every random hunt event rolled is a fucking danger. It's not another thing you use for your survivors to get stronger.I'm not even going to bother to read your posts too, since I stopped reading past your initial dumbass insult. You may as well spare yourself the effort, and I'm sure it is an effort lmao, and stop responding altogether, since I'm not going to read them.
To keep thread alive, I'm on ly6 and I've got all 4 survival actions unlocked, a suit of Rawhide and an activated luck charm on my 2 Evasion 1 luck fist and tooth survivor with monster claw style, and a zanbato, butcher's cleaver, and cat gut bow on the other mostly mooks barring +1 accuracy on the bowman. Think it's worth trying for a level 2 white lion?
>>97404041Sure! Though having 4 survival actions unlocked makes me think that you don't have a super high survival limit. And the biggest issue would be Overwhelming Darkness.
>>97404041Unless you're hunting for iron or weird plants I never really saw the need to hunt for lv2; they're way stronger than the lvl 1 and barely give more resources.Surge and dodge is fine, but I'd also get some proper armor set for each survivor before attempting a lv2 lion.If you really want to farm, given that you have a +1 luk dude you could also try to piñata the antelope
>>97404299>I never really saw the need to hunt for lv2more risk = more funIt's not rocket science. Even if the rewards weren't commensurate, it's still nice having a more engaging fight.
>>97404299Also proper armour set for EACH survivor feels like a bit overkill. They don't all have to survive. A few deaths after you get the society principle is fine if they are redshirts.
>>97404310Not him, but I personally dont do it because it makes exp growth 2x faster, meaning less use out of a good survivor (barring immortal, flower, ect). If they just kept the 1 fight = 1 age exp, id go after 2s and 3s way more. As it stands, 2 random resources you may not need, for half the life span of all survivors present is not a good trade
>>97404652Well I mean you're always more likely to be using current survivors less than future children, simply because of innovations that power up future survivors. And it's not like weapon proficiencies are super rare later once you are able to pass that down to children too.
Are there TTS files for the new expacs?
>>97404838Nothing publicly available, Poots is allowing the existing TTS moss to stay up with the promise that no one tries to port in anything past gambler's chest. That being said, there's literally nothing he can do to stop you from scanning your own cards and setting up new standees snd card decks in TTS is easy so...
>>97370641>So, this event is the only event in the game that has no ability to be avoided through re-rollsThe Goblin retard. Posts like these should be deleted on sight just to spare us all the torment of dealing with dumb fucking ESLs voicing their unwanted opinions on a game they do not understand.
Another year of me not building the phoenix. LET'S GOOOOOOO!
>>97406326Come on anon the Phoenix gear actually isn't bad now, ignoring the hollowpoint sword. At least try a campaign hunting it, all you need is survivors with hunt XP exactly equal to monster level and some leather armor.
>>97406326>another year of not gluing the 500 hands to the phoenix
>>97406326Losing a hand while putting the phoenix together was the catalyst to me putting white construction paper all over the carpet in my craft room.I have an old yellow towel under my chair so I can move it without tearing up the "floor" and haven't lost shit since.
>>97405008Does the Goblin instakill you?
>>97406633no but the Mind Goblin does
>>97406633he just looks at you.
>>97406326why tho, it's ez
>>97406326Summon your courage, anon.
>>97406448Sleep tight, Popper.
I keep buying more minis on ebay; I lowballed someone selling some and he accepted :)>>97411677SEX with this anon and his wonderful paintjobs.
>>97413200>I keep buying more minis on ebay; I lowballed someone selling some and he accepted :)ARE YOU THE FUCKER THAT TOOK THE SLENDERMAN
>>97413244no, I only buy survivors and PS minis
>>97328002You can die when you finish painting your entire backlog.
>>97413419>man finds secret to immortality with one easy trick
>>97413419nice, I guess I'm effectively immortal, I haven't painted ANYTHING kdm out of core + gce + a ton of expacs and white boxes yet
>>97413419its so over, I can't even fulfill my new years resolution.
some fag posted in the discord about something he wanted to buy on ebay and I jacked the price up
>>97418957hey man fuck you, that was me
>>97406633Yes.
I like how screaming nukalope makes it easier to farm second hearts by spamming gobbled up, too bad it's not at all worth it lmao. 10% chance of dying every turn, 12% chance of success, for a gear that gives a token of the worst stat in the game and deals brain damage for the privilege
I have acquired all of the pinup sets, just gotta get my hands on a pinup wet nurse now.Which box should I assemble first?
>>97426278>Which box should I assemble first?The one on top of the pile
I really like the sculpts from what I saw here but I need to ask - are there any shops in Europe that sells these minis? Or I would need to use official site? When I checked some sets, they would only show "US warehouse" or "UK warehouse" and I don't really want to pay extra 23% tax plus shipping outside EU.
>>97426665If you just want the minis you can go on ali and get recasts.
Man how the fuck is the scrap bone spear not at least str 4 if it's gonna cost more and need a weapon crafter unlock over a king spear. It get that it's there so you have early spears without white lion but fuck it's so bad.
>>97334922God this has actually really fucke me up, I'm at the point where my gear is ready for level 2 hunts, at least with +2 Evasion Rawhide grease survivor to tank, but I don't actually have enough survivors with 3+ courage to survive rhe hunt.
>>97426665As far as I know Kingdom Death doesn't have any official resellers at the moment. I've spoken to a couple game shop owners in the US that were interested in partnering, but whether that becomes a reality has yet to be seen. At the moment your only options are buying from the KDM shop online or going on auction sites and finding recasts.
>>97428703You can get away with path of the insane if you run some on arrival +survival gear. Not ideal but what else do you have to lose?
>>97428393I feel like gear in general needs a rework, there are so many useless/niche gear and most are so hard to farm unless you get unbelievable lucky.
>>97426631They're not in a pile, do you take me for a neanderthal? They're sideways in my display case in numerical order.
>>97432419I think it's fine to have gear that is there in case you get unbelievably lucky. But gear that nobody EVER wants to craft even if they have the resources, is different.
>told myself I wasn't going to build any more expansions until I finally finished people of the Lantern from start to GSK >Finally did it >in the meantime I started a new miniatures game and the space I reserved for expansions is occupied>My existing kdm shelf isn't big enough for kdm minis that are larger than 2x2 It's an abstract, entirely self inflicted kind of pain
>read the flower knight rulebook>nowhere does it say that FK replaces the antelope>but the store page doesAm I missing something or is FK actually sort of a nq2.5 and I can run both him and the antelope?
>>97434270Yes, spidicules is the only quarry that outright replaces antelope. The node system will only matter once COD comes out.
>>97433608Same except I'm stuck on phoenix as the last peice for Core. I just cant do it. Got some layers in places but I just dont want to touch it. I want to paint smog singers and black knight, but I need to get this fucker done.
>>97396303Do you know what "not necessarily" means? Do you have any more than no reading comprehension? Are you able to not think in only absolutes? Have you ever not been a colossal faggot?
Yeah bros I think we're doomed, I have 5 survivors left and they're all male except one, and she's my best survivor that I need for hunts.
>>97435262>last female in the settlment is the strongestGo get 'er boys
>FK hunt is a pushover>DBK, which lorewise just aped FK's moves, is hard afI feel like their difficulties should've been revered
>>97437520*reversed
>>97437520The first 2 levels are said to just be FK fucking with you and testing/training you. I haven't done it myself, but I hear level 3 can be difficult.
>>97437828Yeah and DBK level 3 is a dick waffler wh casual throws out 15-20 undodgeble damage before drawing an AI card, I just don't bother tackling him until I can get some damage reduction like rolling armor with a silk body suit to tank the ball
What I'm beginning to learn is that thr best way to hunt a level 2 white lion is just to go hunt a level 1 screaming antelope, because my dumb ass ways rolls dead antelope and always rolls a 7+. I'm glad I didn't bother setting up the showdown this time at least.
>>97441822>alright, it's LY9, I've got the resources I need for the shields, now I just need to- >what do you mean I drew clinging mists >what do you mean 4 of my 5 survivors must skip the next hunt >what do you mean Jo schlomo age 0 now has to solo the king's man
>>97442069>first day, roll shit and get lowest amount of population>roll harvest on first hunt, 3/4 dont have survival>campaigns baisically overAt least it kicked us in the dick early and not 20 years in.
>>97442359>roll harvest on first huntAnd this, ladies and gentlemen is why you always name your settlement after prologue.
How's the simulator?
>>97442583not worth it atm, it needs more attention but they are not gonna give it to it since they are spread so thin as is.
>>97442583overpriced as shit for what they're offering but incidentally also currently the cheapest way to try GCE
>>97442583Just use TTS
I am BACK baby jacking up the prices on SHIT the discord LOSERS say they plan to buy on ebay
>>97447904god speed anon.
>>97447904Will you lower your prices if I say I want to buy on ebay here?
>>97442583I understand other anons' objections, but to add some feedback balanced (somewhat) in the other direction:My friends and I use the sim every week to play. I'd say it's perfectly usable. Recently theres been some issues with the cloud saving system (not nessecary to play but is convenient when it works).The addition of GCE has introduced a few bugs but nothing game breaking.The interface is a bit more clunky than TTS and lacks certain features (area select pickup and immidiately squashing loose cards into a deck being the most egregious absences).Contrary to what the other anons say, I would argue progress does get made pretty frequently, with new features (beyond just minis and game content) being added probably every three months. Most recently search was added and is a great help, and this Christmas all users got a White Lion mini that was "painted" (i.e. had a coloured texture on it, seemingly scanned from a real model) but the capacity for painting has also been shown in the recent update video, so there's a real possibility that mini painting will be added next Black Friday.At the end of the day if you just want to play and aren't bothered about 1) GCE access, and 2) an altruistic attitude towards future sim development, then TTS is probably the best bet.
How vital do you think GCE will be to playing the game going forward? Will Adam design everything with the assumption that arc survivors are the new default, or will it both old and advanced kdm be supported?
>>97449076I am not SELLING I am BIDDING against the LOSERS who are DUMB enough to say what model they wantI don't even want to win just make them spend more!
>>97450061I really hope they add in-app painting instead of just uploading textures
>>97451088It honestly feels that way now. I see a ton of talk about arcs and strats for them that I wonder if people are playing core+expansions anymore.
>>97451088I don't think it's going to be vital at all.CoD is going to add/focus on Pillars, for example.Having the major expansions means having the option to use stuff from them in other campaigns, doesn't require it.
>>97451088knowing poots GC will be mandatory going forward, it's to integral to be anything else.
>>97454525>>97455651Continued support for GCE requires each new monster has:>monster knowledge cards>a scout tablet... thats it I think?Similarly in the other direction, a handful or regular fighting arts its all that is nessecary to keep non-arc survivors supported.The only other (admittedly non-trivial) issue is one of balance but this is something that we can only guess at.I cant provide a quote but, as far as I'm aware, we've been told that we arent getting new core philosophies in expansions like Abyssal Woods, CoD, etc. Instead when these do show up it'll be as individual modules (i.e. Gatherism, Heliocentrism, the PotSs one I forget the name of...)As such the overhead for keeping expansions Arc/non-arc agnostic is not enormous.I could be forgetting something glaringly obvious, so feel free to correct, but it doesnt seem like a huge obstacle to me.
How long until we get a monster that shoots period blood at us?
>>97458897As I found out yesterday when i was building it, the gorm has a vagina for a throat so.
>>97456517desu I think the philosophies being separate purchases is just a money thing, not a design thingthis thing better come with at least one plastic sprue, $45 (the cheaper pre-order price, so it's probably like $50-$60 on release) for just cards is cringe when the legendary card pack is only $30>>97459500yeah baby*plap plap plap plap*
>>97461216actually gatherism is $65 so it's probably the same for these other ones.Better have plastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I seriously don't get why people are buying and trading around these recipe cards, everyone's already shared what they are, either read it off the wiki or just have the pictures ready, it's not like you need to have them out all the time like gear or fighting arts.
>>97461770I like having the physical goods
>>97461770For the same reason they buy the actual resin models instead of chink recasts.It's nice to have genuine things instead of something you know is fake and can tell forever.
>>97461216>>97461225Yar, they each have minis associated with them. I see a bunch of people grumbling about price but... it seems perfectly in line with regular KDM prices? Maybe even a better deal if you compare gatherism's content to other smaller releases? I dont know. I'm confident that helio+starbound have enough room for content that when they come out they'll be on par with gatherism at a minimum.>>97461770Cooking developed in this way should have been around a lot sooner; its cool as fuck. As >>97461827 says, you can of course just use images but the physical form is just nicer; otherwise we'd uktimately do everything digitaly. I'd definitely consider *trading* duplicates but if it came to buying singles from other players then the price would have to be pretty low. The thing that irks me is down the line, if they sell them as a bundle, I don't want to have to buy the bundle to get the one or two that I'm missing and end up with duplicates that I didn't need to purchase.
>>97462654DESU my problem is that this feels like the kind of thing that should be in COD not gacha store bonuses. Same concern I have eith the indomitable white boxes meaning we might not get any in COD for the core game monsters.
>>97461770>the poors are confused as to why a boutique hobby borde game has people who want the official itemsI like to have items in both a game and collective sense. They are given out free when you buy the other stuff, its literally just fun trading like in the ol pokemon days. You can also put wagon wheels on a nice car, but why would you? Have nice things for the nice game you bought.
>>97462654>Cooking developed in this way should have been around a lot soonerI'm amazed it took this fucking long to get proper cooking on a hunting game.
>>97467479Yar; If I had my way there'd be a whole fucking cooking expansion with a booklet, ways of combining archetype food group resources (say, meats, vegetables, seasonings, etc.) to produce generic effects, and then specific effects derived from particular named ingredients - much as specific parts are needed for specific items, but parts also have their generic types, like bone, organ, and such.You'd have various cooking methods that would alter outcomes, and yes each monster would come (or be updated to possess, via the expansion equipping exsiting monsters) with a set of recipes, maybe three per monster.A cannibal nemesis monster whilst we're at it. That could be the main selling point of the expansion for people who are less interested in cooking itself.This would obviously be a grossly bloated system that would be far more effort than its worth but whatever, a man can dream.While we're at it, another expansion for fishing please. I want:- bait types- three or four fish *encounters* (i.e. bone eater mid-hunt fights) that can be triggered by complex assembled baits.- each fish gives a different spread of resources- Angler armour patternsFar more interesting and interactive than the current offerings (sky fishing, noodling)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvDU5MwsCSwMade a video for that cooking bounty thing. Let me know what you guys think!
New wanderer on pre order
>>97470980No it isn't you dumbass that was on preorder during BFThe hidden store page is just there so they can start shipping for people who already preordered
>>97470235you sound like you take dick in the ass
watching in realtime as someone is too stupid and keeps using the pregnant man react in the trooncordthe mod already brought up its meant for inclusivity and he keeps goingdumbo gonna get banned
Sale for January is up.Preacher IS available to buy now. >>97470980
>>97472068Damn still no slendy restock
>>97472301It'll probably only happen when CoD gets released.
Fellas, I think I'm gonna call this campaign after this hand fight. Even if we win, queen bitch has to retire after the fight, I'm only bringing her out so she can earn her last point of weapon proficiency and get us fist and tooth mastery, and once she's gone, not only is my current hunt team looking pretty elderly, but I'm lacking any real replacement to her clutching me up this far because I have 7 survivors in total. Besides, I want to get Gorm and Manhunter in here.
>>97471650thanks, i haven't had dick in the ass yet unfortunately
>>97473788Well? What are you waiting for? You've got a sunstalker model don't you?
>>97471650I thought you were being a dick for no reason but I listen to the video and he sounds exactly like pic.
>>97474525holy shit he really does sound like it
>>97473598keeping other survivors viable apart from your main team is always a hassle but I don't know how they could improve it without removing leveling up all together or making it worthless.>after this hand cutscene*ftfy
Do you think I could roll straight into a DBK level 2? I've got a stinky tank with tumble and propulsion drive and an archer with a hollow point bow and strategist to pop off the trap, I think my main concern may just be the swarm of botflies, highest courage I've got is 4 on the twilight sword wielder, and the rest are 0 courage newborns
>>97473598Make her fuck someone.If she dies, you call the campaign quits.If she lives and has a child, you keep going.
Getting started on this guy. Friend wants to introduce his other two friends to KDM this week, so we're doing the vignette.I was worried it would take forever to paint but half its surface area is dead bodies, so not so bad.
>>97483427>painting skulls flesh coloroh...
Does anyone happen to have minis from all 4 echoes of death boxes and can compare them to the core gameplay survivors? I want to know where they fall in terms of scale creep, thinking of grabbing 2 and 3 to represent some of my common loadouts
>>97485297From left to right:>Core x4, echoes 1, echoes 2, echoes 1, echoes 2Echoes 1 seems to be roughly the same size as core, except for the "giant blooded" girl which is slightly taller, but the second wave is clearly bigger.I think the waves 3 and 4 are still the same size as the second wave, with the "survivors of death" and later being another scalecreep
>>97486207Thanks for the lineup! Shame that the mini known for giant's blood loses what made her special almost immediately lol, though interestingly Joe holds up until size creep wave 2 presumably. Guess I'll skip on it then, none of the echoes 1 minis wowed me and as foolish as it may be I'm trying to keep parity with the core monsters until poots inevitably decides to turn the simple hey "let's remake the starting survivors" into a brand new core edition with all rescaled minis we'll all be forced to rebuy for 700 dollars or whatever.
>roll harvester ">Well that sucks but at least I don't have any noisy-">pull coprolalia as one of the disorders Adam this is why no one plays with harvester
>>97483427progress thus far
Jesus christ why does anyone bother hunting the phoenix, just tried a level 2 and only barely managed to kill thanks to cheesing the trap with a hollowpoint arrow + giant stone face, and still lost 2 survivors along the way. Top of the Food Chain and Peck are actually nightmarish, I'm not sure how you deal with that combo with a beacon shield or extra senses and a shield. And of course, after all that, I'm STILL missing the whisker I need for the fucking arc bow
>>97491561>why does anyone bother hunting the phoenixAll of its gear is great; the armor parts can be fit into mixed sets, so you don't need to funnel all of your ressources into a full set, the arrow is also good and the hollow sword is a banger against kingsmen.But I wouldn't fight a lvl2+ unless I got an axe master (in addition to all the shit you need for the basic phoenix)
>>97492014Damn, sorry for posting I'll never do it again.
>>97492577Cone on anon you're not supposed to actually play this game, you're just supposed to buy Pootler's latest piece of bloatslop like a good goyim and show off how much money you've spent
>>97492577he's just jealous that you are actually painting instead of having a giant pile of shame.
>>97483427Let us know how it went. Always cool tp hear about people's first experiences with the Killenium Butchy
>>97485296lmao this idiot doesn't know how layers work>>97490429hey good lookin'
>>97492577good
>>97497719Went ok*My friend, veteran of the year-long KDM campaign, was really invested. His friend was also casually curious and interested. His girlfriend got food poisoning eating the chinese takeout they brought with them and had to throw up, then sit in a torpor on the couch and pout for the evening, requiring frequent pauses to make sure she was doing ok.Mechanically, the fight was much easier than the vanilla butcher. He's slower and you have more tools to fight him with. We figured out quickly Hollow could take the hits very well, Brave was doing the damage, and Forgot would add another bit of damage while waiting for the HL deck to pile up to reset with the magic book she carries.We did run out of insanity by the end, and Brave died just before the other 3 survivors managed to take him down. Hollow got the final strike in, and was reborn as a human child.The new players, including the sick girlfriend, really loved the story elements of the game the most. The mechanics were a little dry especially for her, but the storytelling and the booklet illustrations they really liked. Both of them ended up flipping through the core book just to see the art and read some of the story events. They also really liked the model design.
I got politely but firmly asked to remove myself from my weekly painting group because I was painting the starting survivors in front of everyone.
>>97501038>dude across the table adding gore layer to Carniraptor, Shredder of Infants>sees a half-naked human figurine>is offended by an adonis/aphrodite human body in a bedsheet, because sex appeal is bad or somethingFind a better painting group.
>>97501038Is it me or did flgs all around suddenly turn into adult toddler daycare? Even when we are just shooting the shit, 3 unwashed trannies always show up and want to paint trans flag colored Gundams or some shit to just sit and judge other people's projects. I got asked to not bring anything too gorey or revealing while the clown simultaneously talks about femboy dating simulator shit.Anyway, working on black knight. Im not sure if I want to blackened the edges of the cloak or some blood red blended in at thw bottem. I dont know just kind of want to be done with him so I can finally start my GCE monsters.
>>97483427
>>97501536>Is it me or did flgs all around suddenly turn into adult toddler daycare? Even when we are just shooting the shit, 3 unwashed trannies always show up and want to paint trans flag colored Gundams or some shit to just sit and judge other people's projects. I got asked to not bring anything too gorey or revealing while the clown simultaneously talks about femboy dating simulator shit.I'm starting to wonder if you're from my LGS. We also got a trio of unwashed flag people (two trannies, one "non binary" chick) who act like babies about everything, and one of them made the comment about wanting to paint the upcoming gundam minis in trans flag colors. I said something like "Yeah that's going to make me want to blow up your mobile suits even more." You know, standard shit-talking.Bitch got pissed and remained mostly silent for the rest of the day and only made passive aggressive remarks. After that, he asks people if I'm going to be there before committing to any event. Which I guess it's good since he mostly plays MtG and I stay away from that.
>>97501915Sex with this Anon and his paintjobs
I have not enjoyed a single fight against this dog cunt
>>97503081>>97501915>>97490429I, for one, hate this paintjob
>>97503702that's why nn2 is the node with the most alternative monsters
>>97503794Tell me what you hate about it, I'm listening and open to criticism.
>>97503813>king's man is ass >lion knight is ass and built around being broken >atnas is apparently boring until he just outright kills you, wildly swingy (haven't touched GCE yet myself, just what I've heard?)>slenderman is the only fun node 2 Why do they keep doing it bros?
>>97505742>atnas is apparently boring until he just outright kills you, wildly swingyNah. He's a rather fun fight, just he doesn't move much, until he does. The fun is in the swordcraft cards, and you can take a few of them before dying. Faced my first one of him before, and we managed to take him down with one death, and several injuries. But we did succeed.
been looking at the website, the minis are sick as hell (eroticism and body horror are just a perfect blend if you ask me) but is the game itself any good?
>>97506491It's not perfect, but it's very enjoyable, imo.Part of that answer depends on what you want out of a game - KDM is basically a story generator, and the settlement is the center of that story more than the individual characters are. Death and tragedy will come often, unexpectedly, and unfairly to survivors. If you accept that as part of the experience, then great. If you're looking for a more traditional character-driven experience where you can invest in a named survivor, then you will have to homebrew some of the more vicious events and rules out or you will be unhappy with the outcomes.
>Rolled the clinging mist new settlement eventShould i do it?
>>97505742Kingsman is overhated Lion Knight's gimmick is interesting in theory but hes hard carried by a great theme and miniAtnas is great but too easily neutered by smog gearSlenderman is a gay meme
>>97503702>>97503813>>97507543Red waifus are all you need for NN2 needs anons
>>97507778Yeah they're on my to buy at some point list. Probably next black Friday. There was other stuff I wanted to get in on first.
>>97506491Alone or with friends?>with friendsThe best way to play, especially with physical. Monopoly banker ain't got shit on KDM card dealer role. Once you get a system its much quicker, but exhausting alone.>alonePlay the free TTS version. For the game itself: it's incredibly punishing and on the brink of campaign failure on the simplest decisions. But I particularly love the way it has given every single campaign a unique feel and tons of shit to try. If you played games like darkest dungeon and slay the spire, youll see alot of similar play styles. With how the monster decks work youll find yourself stomping a monster in 2 turns, just to have it wipe you out immediately the next time you fight it. We also add a bit of flare by adhering to the loose lore that the players are entities controlling the fate of humanity.
>>97504021it's boring, bland and blurry, The table is a brown mess, looks like E33. Also it's not fun, but it's not grim or dark either, it's just...beige like the interior design of a HR person. Even the blood is brown come on...>but muh realismKDM is not realistic. >>97411677look at this. yeah you got a neat grading on the wing, but not a single fuck given to the fine sculpt of the feathers. which is doubly sad because all the attention goes to the wings since WOW it's the only colorfull stuff. The rest is creme and taupe and the same color as the decor, the weapon, the armor, the hair...everything really...So all you can see is that quick aero lazy grading.You CAN paint really well, and you choose not to. You do "just enough".That's what I don't like. If I were you, I'd pick a side: either paint your whole stuf like little statuettes, full stone, and maybe a touch of light on the lantern, or just a bit of very red blood.Or go full power and have fun with your skill level : gradient in situ lights, detailed and varied faces, a unique and precise color scheme for each foe etc...
>>97506887I was always confused: does this event just reset it all? So you can just start a new gane with survivors who are blooded and dressed?
>>97507949Starts a new game with 4 kitted out survivors
>>97507908>gradient in situ lights, detailed and varied faces, a unique and precise color scheme for each foe etc...I'm actually not technically advanced enough to do any of those things. Those wings took me 3 attempts, had to strip the model twice. Every time I tried to shade the feathers with a wash it looked bad.Appreciate the input, though.
So for pre-GCE seed patterns, are you supposed to treat the scrap resource requirement as broken lanterns, or is Poots actually retarded and wants me to spam hunt the phoenix for black skulls because it's the only monster resource I have with scrap.
>>97508150But black skull doesnt even have the scrap keyword and broken lantern does anon
>>97508260So it doesn't, in which case these 10th anniversary survivor patterns are straight up impossible to craft because by the rules of patterns, any resource of a generic type (like scrap) rather than a specific card can only be crafted using monster resources from that era or later. There are no monster resources with scrap
>>97506887only if your current settlement is in a bad spot, otherwise a campaign is already long enough>>97508354>There are no monster resources with scraphttps://kingdomdeath.fandom.com/wiki/Scrap
>>97507949basically RNG based new game +
>>97508532I stand corrected, but I still think it's retarded and thus ignoring it considering my only option before blackout is one (1) Phoenix resource when I need 7 of the damn things. I'll just pay with iron instead.
Man I went through all this effort to hunt the phoenix 5 times and I'm honestly regretting it, I have the armor set but it's so fucking awkward and mediocre, if I had hunted dbk instead during these years I'd probably have a good chunk of rolling armor instead, or spammed level 3 screaming antelope and gotten to blacksmith and started farming for Lantern armor.
>>97503702>>97503813>>97505742>>97507543Kingsman > tyrant
>>97507836get in on THESE NUTS faggot
>>97508725Tyrant is cool once but the whack a mole shit at higher levels is such a tedious requirement
>>97510048 desu the most annoying part is trying to frozen star, basically requires you to be constantly on the edge of getting harvester incantation'd since he'll drop one per turn guaranteed and then probably drop one from his AI. The most annoying was when I got him a situation where he kept looping the "drop 3 gates in front of me and one behind me" and "drop 4 gates in corners" and it tool me forever to try and wound them off with the one bow guy while everyone else had to jump around keeping gates managed so he didn't TPK us.
Bout to fight watcher for the first time, let's see if it's as easy as everyone says it is. Wish me luck.
>>97512436I'm wishing the watcher luck cause he'll need it more
>>97512500Well he did,but I'm still blaming you for white out being in the first three cards every time. I had a survivor with 9+ courage and understanding anyway, and ended the fight with somehow no one in the settlement dying thanks to analyze and lots of marching (thank God for that one hit location that gives everyone +2 survival on crit),but it's the principle of the thing
>bring Old Joe to the Watcher fight>he's 2 hunt xp away from retirement>suffers a broken hip during the showdownshit writes itselfBut I also feel like I fucked up since I've defeated the Watcher on LY20 without hunting a single phoenix beforehand and now I can only hunt lvl 3s
>>97503702my campaign has had a dedicated tard-wrangler that absolutely destroys Kingsman
>>97515353Just hunt the screaming antelope, even a level 3 coughing baby is still a coughing baby.
>>97515545I guess I'll have to since it's the only other way to get black lichens, but it does get boringI'll see how butcher lvl 3 goes and then most likely go try my hand at fighting a phoenix for the first time - doesnt really matter if it all goes to shit since I dont think I stand a chance against GSK with his 27 toughness
>>97508150>are you supposed to treat the scrap resource requirement as broken lanternsBroken lanterns have the scrap keyword. So yes, they work.
>>97516405Not a monster resource, as discussed later, there are technically sources of monster scrap later on but they're so heinous to get and every pattern recipe since GCE specifies broken lanterns so more likely it's just poots didn't think it through
We switched in Blck knight for our NN3. We haven't fought it before and haven't tried the BK campaign yet (to my dismay as im painting them all up). How is the fight? Tips/tricks? Also: are you supposed to be able to beat goldsmoke? Or is it more of a special occurance that you actually put him down?
>>97517273>Not a monster resource>drops from monsters
>>97517654Never fought him, but he is the final boss for a reason. Late game can be really swingy though, depending on how you managed to build your survivors either you are powerful enough that you don't give a fuck about anything or you will just get wrecked.
>>97517654He's great but hard. Bring something ranged and/or good movement options because he is going to toss you around a maze of wrestling rings.
Alright, tackling dung beetle knight lvl3 for the first time, I've got >leather survivor with monster grease, digging claw, and shield with tumble and propulsion drive, primary tank and century carapace clearer >bow survivor in Rawhide with arc bow, cat eye cycle, and strategist, secondary DPS, hollowpoint arrow, and trap negation >fist and tooth master in Phoenix, total of 4 evasion and crits on a 6+, main dps and secondary tank>spear specialist with screaming armor and Lantern halberd, support and tertiary DPS, mainly there to help push the ball and slam when ableThink I'm ready enough?
>>97517273it is tho.
>>97517273r u retard?
>>97406448Sleep tight, Popper
>>97518870>>97518883You dumb nigger, Monster Resources aren't the same thing as Basic Resources.
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>>97519451It literally doesn't matter. I have no idea what schizophrenic hallucination you dreamed up that makes it matter, but it doesn't. Broken lanterns have the scrap icon, they can be used in any recipe that calls for scrap.
>>97519564Except for Seed Patterns. If you want to play as written, which nobody should because it's retarded, as we have said.
>>97519567No, even seed patterns do not require "monster resources" as in the explicit deck of monster resources. I have no idea where on earth you got this idea, but you're a retard for continuing to talk about it.
>>97519571...Anon.
>>97519571>they must spend a monster resource with the organ subtype>must spend a monster resource>monster resource
>>97519576GCE overrides that. No idea why you're citing ancient shit. Use the most recent rules. Of course you're going to have troubles using recent cards with old rules.
>>97519581Seed Patterns are GCE...
>>97519588Yes, they have new rules that override the beta rules you're citing. Use those. Stop being a retard.
>>97519591Where are you getting these new rules? You made them up? Dreamt them?https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/pages/seed-patternsThe rulebook for GCE corroborates this.
>>97519606>Where are you getting these new rules? You made them up? Dreamt them?They're in the rulebook. Try reading it instead of an ancient webpage set up years ago and never edited.
>>97519610>They're in the rulebookYou mean the one that says "(not basic resources)"?
>>97519612The GCE rules don't include that, no.
>>97519615lol
>>97518406So, middle of the fight, and I'm just realizing as I hit a carapace for the first time that burrow targets a *random survivor*, not the guy who broke the carapace, so my whole plan of carefully reserving survival on the pickaxe guy so he can spend it to block the burrow then get it back on the carapace is fucking gone and that little bit of intelligent design just wasn't there at all. THANKS POOTS.
>>97521721Well final result is, managed to get through without any deaths due to my primary survivor having 5 evasion but the stupidity of burrow meant she also ended up with ruptured muscles so she can no longer use her extra senses + Phoenix plackart combo to near completely neuter the monster, just mostly neuter it. One other guy also got hit but the only thing special about him was king's step so easily replaced. Never doing that again though, I have all the resources I need to make my rolling armor and can get it buried and unearth it by the time GSK rolls around
Fuck. This was a waste of money for me.
>>97521721>intelligent designHow do you expect this from somebody who claimed that people WILL cheat while playing and designed with that in mind?
will suck your dick if anyone can find elastomer statue recasts anywherenot the terrain that one guy madethe official ones with the variations>>97522881sell it to me for half of what you paid
>>97522881What did you buy? Then, why did you buy?
>>97522881>>97523282How I sleep knowing that the hobby and thematic aspects have already done the (white) lion's share of the work making the game "worth it" for me; actually playing it is just gravy at this point (I do actually manage to, now and again... I'm not a complete retard...)It also probably helps that it's pretty much the only thing I've ever kickstarted. Maybe I'm a whale for KSing KD:M, but these niggers who have like 10 or 15 games funded at any one time worry me.
>>97524003same, satan pledgesome of the retards in d*scord talk about pledging the high tiers of other games while they talk shit about those other games and yet pledge more to other new onesits fun to look at their shitty paintjobs
>>97524003I haven't bought anything from KDM in over 3 years and I'm still building and painting some of the expansions, so I would definitely say its worth it.
>>97501915stroking my shit to these minis
>>97486207you suck at painting where the eyes at nigga
>>97529676>you suck at paintingyes>where the eyes at niggaI didn't bother with them on those models because I suck at painting
Got an assbloom busy on eBay for $125, beats the $225 it was originally listed forI guess putting in offers does work
>Murder from the skull eater on timeline>followed by hunt reenactment that ends in a death>survival of the fittest loses us 2 more due to somehow fucking each other to deathEverything else, ok, but at some point there has to be a stabilization on the child birth front. Most things can kill 1-4 survivors in an instant, while intimacy can add more dead on that for possibly 2 survivors. You'd think there would be a clause of "the hovel, bed, and family innovations each give +1 to intimacy rolls". Not asking for a game breaking nerf, but come on.
>>97535479You don't do intimacy with survival of the fittest until you have face painting. Moght as well be written on the story event that you csnt becsuse trying to do it without is just committing suicide.
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