Previous: >>97324084I love my multicolored daughter edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the ruleshttps://mtgcommander.net">committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to thehttps://www.edhrec.com">internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and cardhttps://www.archidekt.com">choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen colorhttps://managathering.com">identityhttps://managathering.com>Cardhttps://scryfall.com">searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdMTQ:Lorwyn Eclipsed, best set of all time or just best set of the last 3 years?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>TQNot going to lie, I like these flip commanders that you are meant to constantly transform every turn. Seem dynamic, at least to me.The rest of the set doesn't set my world on fire.
>>97330904I wish you could cast either side
>>97330926It would have been nice, but its not a deal breaker.
>>97330941It makes more sense with the fucking flavor.The whole point is that Lorwyn and Shadowmoor are two parts of the same whole and constantly in flux. Doesn't make sense for one side to have to come first.
Did one of you faggots write this? The beta redditard fears the Queen of Green.
>>97330960>shit players get beaten by shit and whine about itMore news at 11
>>97330960I think having reddit cookies in your browser should be an instant permaban on this site, so no.
Reminder free value slop is never interesting and if you disagree youre niggerbrained
>>97330983I don't accept cookies on my phone.
>>97331014What a sane thing to say.
>>97331014Yes, this is why Gitaxian Probe needs a ban
>>97330846boy i hate omenpaths
>>97331014Wtf ban it!
>Duel Commander rules and ban list>but with 80 card decks (easier to shuffle, and more consistent while still being fun, also makes mill realistic which is usually made difficult by 100 card decks)>no off color fetches>25 lifeWhat do you think of my format?
>>97331068didn't Duel just shit itself? i went into the site some other day and they unbanned imperial seal, emrakul, back to basics and a heap of other insane stuff
All mana rocks are deleted from reality. Would EDH be better or worse?
What commander or partner pairing should I build to best emulate these two strong women?
>>97331096No. People would just play the most powerful cheap dorks.
>>97331096It becomes green kingdom. Splash green = win. Don't = lose.
God I miss Rebecca Guay art
>>97331096But I like stuffing my mono black rats with mana rocks.
>>97331117do I have news for you!
>>97330846>Lorwyn Eclipsed, best set of all time or just best set of the last 3 years?I have no idea.
>>97331106Imagine the smell while they savagely scissor
>>97330846The art feels far more disney adjacent than original lorwyn/shadowmoor but the merfolk still do stuff when they tap so I can live with this set.
>>97331074I am totally happy with the unbanning of all the nonbasic land hate. Nonbasic lands are simply too powerful in eternal formats.
the 2 Reaper King players that exist will love this
>>97331068>Only I can save commander
>>97330846>Lorwyn Eclipsed, best set of all time or just best set of the last 3 years?Its really hard to get into this when no one really knows or cares about the characters. Ive been playing MTG for a long time. My first product was the Blast from the Past precon. I asked my playgroup if theyd heard of Oko and I showed them the full art card. The guy who plays Tifa at our table nearly puked he was so upset about the art. No one has heard about Oko or really knows anything about him. Someone recognized him as a character from OTJ which seems correct. I guess hes kind of the new Loot and hes just going to be shoehorned into various planes now starting with Lorwyn. UB sets are better because at least the story exists amd the characters are easier to remember
>>97331315I just know him as the banned guy from Eldraine
>>97331270No they won't
>>97331270God yes I fucking do>proliferate it up>wipe everyone's landsI'm fucking cumming at the idea of it
>>97330960>0 upvotesseems like you share the reddit opinion
>>97331315See, the funny thing to me about the point you're trying to make is that I'd literally never heard of Tifa before people in this thread started posting about her card and I still don't actually know who she is.
>>97331315>Its really hard to get into this when no one really knows or cares about the characters.UBpiggy>Ive been playing MTG for a long time.For about 6 months.>My first product was The Final Fantashit precon.
still think she's neat. lot of suggestions saying just put in big beaters and lifelink them up, but I dunno, seems very fragile.and you know, diving top to deck manipulate.
>>97331367>>Ive been playing MTG for a long time.>For about 6 months.>>My first product was>The Final Fantashit precon.Hmmm seems like maybe you dont know mtg as well as you thought, anon
>>97331381God its even worse than i thought
>>97331376>Manipulating topNah. Just going to build her as a 3 and have fun. If i'm going to go all in to win hard I'd just player a different better boros commander.
>>97331350Homie's been living under a rock for 30 years
>>97331401yeah, i aint interested in paying 30 bucks, or even proxying the card, when shes just going to be another casual deck.
>>97331435I don't think she's going to be 30 dollars. Winota is miles ahead of her as far as free value and she's not even 5.
>>97331367stop falling for the troll anon
>>97331449I meant divining top. I cant imagine any rare from the set going for more than 2$ after prerelease.
>>97331315>The guy who plays Tifa at our table nearly puked he was so upset about the artwell he clearly doesn't know shit about FF then i saw way more beefcake in the opening act of FF10
How does everyone store/sort their cards? I've got like 10 bundle boxes with more cards on top of them
>>97331502Bulk are in those big multi row cardboard boxes. Rares over 5 dollars are in a binder, and all cards over 20 dollars are in another smaller binder. Cards worth 80 dollars or more are in picrels in a fireproof lockbox
>>97331502You don't wanna see how I store my bulk
>>97331528Based
>>97331502Bulk in boxes:Enchantment/Enchantment Creatures /Creatures/Artifact Creatures/Artifacts/Instant/Sorcery, all alphabeticalR and MR in penny sleeves, C and UC unsleevedOthers go in the binder
Do you ever think about how in the magic universe some wizard can design an object of arcane power to produce mana indefinitely but for all practical purposes he’d have been better off with just a really huge pile of gemstones?
>>97331068>Doesn't ban blatant pie breaks like permanent blue removalWhats the point of your hypothetical format again?
>>97331689I think that from what we've seen, "a really huge pile of gemstones" is some treasures, and the mana producing gems are something particularly special. also (We) are in a very different frame of reference for mana access and spending than people within planes.
>>97331689You can't just go with any random gem. Stuff like moxes are rare, why do you think planeswalkers were fighting over them and other mana-rich regions left and right? The best way to get mana is mana-bonding with lands. It's efficient, it's reliable, and most importantly, it's the simplest and easiest method, there's a good reason every single plane arrives at it on their own.
>>97331740>Constantly fightingThe one and only real resource conflict in MtG history was Brothers' War.>PhyrexiansBecause they're ebil and want to turn the world chrome>EldraziBecause they're ebil and want to turn the world colorless>VulvamothBecause he's ebil and wants to turn the world into low-income housing>BolasBecause he's sexually repressed and wants to get fucked by Ugin
>>97331381
>>97331783There were more conflicts then these, you know. There was a whole thing with Jared Carthalion and Kristina of the Woods fighting Ravidel over a bunch of moxes. There was the whole war in Madara over leylines because Bolas (then an oldwalker) was so powerful he couldn't even manifest without powerful terrain. The Kami War in Kamigawa started because Konda stole a huge chunk of mana from the kami realm, Memnarch was building a gigantic machine to harness the fifth sun of Mirrodin in an attempt to give himself a spark, on and on and on...Hell, even the War of the Spark was only possible because Bolas invaded Amonkhet beforehand, *specifically* to get his hands in a resource that would allow for his plan (lazotep).
>>97331709>>97331740No but youre not understanding. You can make something like an Arcane Signet right, and get 1 colored mana pretty regularly indefinitely right?But you don’t NEED indefinite mana. Treasure can give you 1 colored mana. So instead of investing arcane energies into crafting an Arcane Signet, a big old pile of gem stones would probably meet most of your magical needs
Name a good commander.Pro-tip: You can't
>>97331899Mine
>>97331899Napoleon
>>97331806>>97331391Please stop making fun of The Professor. Hes a nice guy and just wants to help people with his charity. He has a keen wit and he enjoys janky B1 decks which is soul! Also his hairline looks great for a man his age.
>>973318461 treasure is already a pile of gemstones.
>>97331937If he wants to help people he probably shouldn’t give money to a charity that has to remove its own founders for embezzling
>>97331971I can be 1 gemstone, see the Wilds of Eldraine treasure token
>>97331846>mana is stored in the gems
top 5 cards of the set, name 'em MtGchuds
>>97331846Why do you assume magically charged gemstones are so easy to come by that they can trivially replace Arcane Signets for the purpose of everyday casting? I don't want to spend a couple hours first thing every morning trudging through a mine, hitting rocks with sticks, just so I can collect the mana I need to for my Bigsby's Bountiful Brunch.
>>97331117And Terese NielsenAnd Phil/Kaja FoglioAnd Harold McNeillAnd D. Alexander GregoryAnd Scott Kirschner
>>97332030Everyone is losing their shit about this card in CEDH. So this is number 1.43 dollars and its not even released.
>>97332089yeah I'd definitely put that in the top 3 for sure
>>97331846getting mana from a treasure is an abstraction for resources you're paying/extracting/etc from the equivalent of "a pile of money"also, notably, it only works once while permanent mana rocks give you recurring resources.thus, why would you try and invent the next sky diamond or sol ring (canonically the entire power packed taste of sunny D in a single artifact)? because they provide the abstracted equivalent of treasure every ""turn."" this is "why would I invest instead of spending my money"we don't know how long a turn is meant to be, even if you pretend it's a planar year or something, that's still one <pile of treasure> equivalent of mana a year.
>>97332089>even considering pre order prices, let alone taking them seriouslyyou fucking moron, that card will top at $5, foil.
>>97332030Here's one
>>97332116I think it will follow the same price trajectory as Redirect lightning, ie it will be a $10-$15 card.
>>97332159Now that I think about it actually, the fact it's a goblin means every goblin fag will want one too, and there are a ton of old school and noob goblin deck users out there.
>>97331783>eldraziI dunno man I thought they made it pretty clear it wasn't really anything actively malicious on the eldrazi's part. they got pulled from the blind eternities and just existing on a plane fucked it up.
>>97332089CEDH interest doesn't dictate card prices, it's only a tiny subsect of EDH players, similar to how trannies are only a tiny subsect of the general global population
>>97332180I mean it kinda does but only indirectly. Commander players have no self-control and try to run as many busted cards as possible, and cEDH expects you to run every busted card.Now I don't think this particular card will end up very expensive because it only works in settings where the only available form of interaction is stack interaction (i.e. cEDH and nowhere else), but it is a bit interesting to think about.
>>97332079Idk how you acquired this but it never fails to amuse me
>>97332247remember when he first said how he'd never do ads and hated being corporate etc.look at him now gleefully advertising whatever bs pays his rent
>>97332247it's just a frame from one of his videos, isn't it?
>>97332259And Im sure youre a regular Mr. Roark
>>97332089This card is awful, redditors are so bad at card evaluation it's unreal.
I need to remove 6 removal, and add 3 more ramp and draw, right? Mana curve is also 3.77 which is kind of high. Just a janky deck I'm crunchy up, first iteration.
If I clone a legendary creature with one of the "except it's not legendary" clones, then I clone the clone/token, is the clone of the clone/token still not legendary? Just trying to figure out if it's worth running Mirror Room // Fractured Reality .
>>97332334>I need to remove 6 removal, and add 3 more ramp and draw, right?Yes, and you better fix your ratios quick lest maro teleports to your doorstep and shoots you in the knees for the crime of diverging from the sacred ratios.
>>97332353cloning a nonlegendary clone is also nonlegendary, yes
>>97331502>How does everyone store/sort their cards?
>>97332396I figured but who knows with this game sometimes thanks fren
>was hoping for more mutavault token makers or something similar >was hoping for "figure of ~" cycle>was hoping for similar art direction to the original lorwyn/shadowmoor>was hoping for more story development regarding Oona, instead of just her body double >instead, got plenty of mechanics that make huge sense in this setting, such ad: affinity/convoke/DFCs/hogwarts drop outstotally worth it guys
>>97332353Yes.>707.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by “as . . . enters” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, counters, and stickers are not copied.Legendary is a supertype, and thus copyable, and Spark Double sets it to non-legendary, which would get copied by other clone effects.
>>97331502>>97331556Thought I'd post as well
>>97332417>>was hoping for more mutavault token makers or something similarWell I'm fucking glad that didn't happen. That shit fucking sucks, alchemy ass mechanic.
>>97332417>was hoping for similar art direction to the original lorwyn/shadowmoorThere's no way you really thought that would happen though, right?
>>97332388>Yes, and you better fix your ratios quickRatios?
>>97332306>2 drop that can't be countered and makes everything not able to be countered >No good.Okay retard.
>>97332515>every pod is full of counterspells.exegrow up
>>97332417>hogwarts drop outskek
>>97331074Duel shit itself because wotc put it onto mtgo for tournament grinders to start playing. Surprise, they solved the format pretty damn fast and the banlist had to adjust. Now the same thing is happening to premodern. All these meme formats get exposed as the shallow kiddie pools they are once put under a microscope by people who are actually trying to break shit and win. The circle of 30 idiots on discord who played the formats before never really had any idea what they were doing.
>>97332594do you know what your typical cedh playgroup looks like
>>97332431>>97332402Delete this
I just want Grand Abolisher effect on an enchantment is that too much to ask?
Fun Times WEnchantmentPlayers can't play spells or activate abilities.
>best set>its actually garbageIs OP retarted? Genuinely confused here as maybe 3 of the spoiled cards so far even approach interesting. It aint even Lorwyn its a strixhaven field trip with some of the least inspired mechanics ive ever seen.
>>97332718
>>97332729With Non-Binary They/Them Owl Frizz?! No way!
>>97331528I use those for some of my commanders. Can't fit in a deck box though which is annoying
Hey which one of you guys had the "Fatebears" deck headed by Klothys? I wanted a list! Also post your fucking decks
>>97332089How is electro, voice of victory and frenzied baloth in cedh right now?
>>97332402soul
>>97332089No one in cedh is losing their shit about this
Is there any merit do doing legends/historics matter in a RGW token deck?My deck has 20 legends, 3 sagas, and 4 nonlegend artifacts, and with planned additions that number should hit at least 30 historics in total.
look at the cool foil cards that came with mail today! :3
>>97332900>Animist's Might.I like that one in my big fight pile deck.
>>97332999its a great card. I play it in my mono green casal deck. almost always its a removal spell for just one mana
>>97331502In binders and in deck boxes. I'm going for the 32 deck challenge and trying to get rid of cards in my binders slowly in the process. Most of these binders are probably only 50% full.
>>97332861VoV is a staple now.
>>97332861>>97333058also meant spider-punk, not electro.
Damn some of those commander card reprints are nice>Cream of the crop>Selvala>Kindred Summons>Evolution Sage>OmnathWish they had different arts though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uS2du92f4wtf?
Why wouldnt vov be a staple its busted
>avatar draft>lol funny earth ending and +1 counter synergies>win every single gameis it usable in edh without resorting to the most degenerate combos? my group is very low bracket 3 (i.e budget goodstuff piss)
>>97333105bending, not ending. I'm asking about earth bending
>>97332861>>97333068>Spider PunkYou don't want to protect your opponents win attempt >Frenzied BalothHeavy on green pips and only protect one type of spell on the stack
>>97333100Because grand abolisher is better.
>>97333087Maybe like 100 dollars in pulls lmao. I hope the collector boxes drop in price, but I doubt many were printed. Hardly any chase cards in this set.
>>97333127so no presence in cedh at all?
>>97333128> doesnt generate tokensYikes / wrong
>>97333140Yes. I think the main reason Hexing Squelcher is making noise in cEDH right now is because it just make going first in turn order even better. It also presents a question do you run more counterspells or spot removal to counter it.
>>97333087guess he scheduled the video drop incorrectly>"I hope you play in the prerelease next week"guess not
>>97333173do cedh decks generally not run edict effects?
>>97333199No because the top 5 cards are all artifacts or enchantments, and wincons occur on the stack.
>>97333220it sounds like a miserable experience every time i hear about it.
How does Cryptek work with Platinum Angel? Its a delayed trigger, so if someone wraths while you are at -100 what happens?>cryptek taps and activates in response to wrath>platinum angel is gets the delayed trigger>wrath resolves>P angel dies, delayed trigger goes on the stack>lose because you are at -100Is that right?
>>97333388I believe that is correct, SBA will see that you're dead before the trigger resolves.
>>97333138yea I mean its early to really have an overview over some of the sets card prices but you must be mentally ill or have too much money to buy collector boosters
>>97333388yes, cryptek and all of those other effects (undying evil, the auras that do this, etc) create a trigger that goes on the stack. like every other trigger, it goes on the stack, state based actions are checked, then everyone gets priority, and it resolves once everyone passes. you die once SBAs realize you're negative.
I want to like Lorwyn Eclipsed more, but there's a big part of me that feels like it's a 6/10 set and every other set this year will be worse.Pic unrelated
>>97333442I feel like ive transcended caring about sets. Now I just proxy all the good shit every six months or so
>>97333442Star Trek will be best set this year
>>97333442Sometime over the years people must have gaslit themselves into believing Lorwyn wasn't like this the first time. Not singling out you in particular but I saw tons of anons clamoring to come back to this plane for years and now that we're here it's the same as it ever was. Lorwyn 1.0 was pile of different tribal synergy cards and this set seems like it's more of the same. It's clear from the response so far and the decklists I've seen posted over the last year here that most anons don't have a tribal deck. This is a set for the tribalfags which /edhg/ clearly is not.
>>97333127>you dont want to protect your opponents....>defense grid sees more play than any of these cardsMkay fella
>>97333442I'm seeing a lot of f"un" goblins To sex up
>>97333442Its genuinely not a good set at all. Looks and feels nothing like lorwyn. Just a random mishmash of things. BAD! bad mechanics too!!! Uninspired! >>97333485Probably true. EOE was really good so maybe it'll not be shit
OG planeswalkers were so cool
>>97330904This is the best one imo. Ashling basically does nothing
>>97333520Everyone will hate blight
Blight is just more flexible Exploit. Prove me wrong.
>>97333513Is the implication here that she spits on the bread
>>97333528Sygg isn't awful
>>97333505Tribal is racist. There are no tribes only kithkindred
>>97333554My shaman deck got fucking shafted because of that pc nonsense
star trek will be all about SPACESHIPS, STATIONS, PLANETS, AND BATTLES GET HYPE
>>97333530Yeah cause its GARBAGE. Its too slow to do anything.>>97333539Youre retarded. Its Friday night get a hobby.
Q of course will be a planeswalker commander
>>97333569ZOMG STAR TREK VS 40K SO EPIC
Mr Bean UB when?
Star Trek is my third most anticipated set this year. Lorwyn > Reality Fracture > Star Trek. I have apathy for everything else, including the return to TEMU Harry Potter. Notably, it ranks below a jpg with text that we know nothing about.
What will his card do?
2026 sets ranked from best to worst:TrekReality FractureThe HobbitLorwynStrixhavenTurtlesCapeshit
>>97333619Functional reprint of Shahrazad
>>97333528I legitimately don't know what they were thinking with Ashling. A legendary mana dork that doesn't have any synergies for either increasing the amount of mana gained or producing it multiple times.
>>97333566They weren't doing class tribal this time, anyway. You still would only have gotten synergies from the generic tribal cards.
>>97333619an alt win con based on increasing his intelligence, either in the form of bespoke counters, or reaching a certain amount of modifications equipped/enchanted to him
>>97333639>Functional reprint of ShahrazadFucking based if so
>>97331018phone posting should be a bannable offense
Honestly how do people defend such an egregious card effect as this? You just KNOW if there was a 3 mana card that said something like "Your opponents can't search their libraries for the rest of the game." all the cEDH niggers would be up in arms and rioting. Fuck this semen-slurping format.
>>97333706i feel like this is bait or false flagging or something, and i say that as someone who dislikes the card.
>>97333706Uh oh melty
>>97331937This but unironically
>>97333706She has sexy legs so I run her
>>97333706You can counter it.You can remove itIf you deck can only win through massive lifegain, your own fault.
>>97333442Marvel will have some pushed Timmyshit that will make it more popular than it has any right to be (especially if WOTC aren't retards and understand Marvelfatigue is a very real thing and they release the other Infinity Stones in the set instead of spreading them out across 5 more goddamn Marvel sets).Star Trek will be artifact heavy which is already the most favored deck type among basic bitches so it'll be highly praised.Hobbit will be quirky with lots of shit like food and the first massive dwarf support the game has gotten in decades which will make it popular.Reality Fracture will be absolutely dogshit in every regard but it will have a lot of busted cards so that'll help sell it.Turtles will flop.
is there a better feeling than wasting money on shiny cards?
>>97333770Cracking shiny cards.
>>97333764>Marvelfatigue is a very real thingI watched some random show on youtube today and they said WotC was 5 or maybe 10 years too late to the Marvel train. Which is extremely true
>>97333782sealed products are a waste of money
>>97333793That's why its sweeter to get one than it is just to buy one.Money won is sweeter than money earned.
>>97333798I dont know. I bought a foil sol ring the other day for 3€. sol rings in foil are cool ok?how much money would I need to invest in order to find a foil sol ring in a sealed product?
>>97333505Maybe if the tribes weren't the most boring shit imaginable and actually had distinct cohesive mechanics that build off each other beyond generic "Other tribal creatures get ward/+1/cost reduction/etc">zomg generic dragons that do everything>zomg busted merfolk play lands draw cards and +1 and tokens>zomg flavorless multiracial elves that ramp and +1 and tokens>zomg flavorless multiracial goblins that +1 and haste and tokens>zomgzomgbies that draw and +1 and tokens>zomg job title tribal that draw and +1 and tokens Call me when they release a set of cute angels or catgirls or bunnygirls.
>>97333793My riftbound origins box is paying for my next riftbound set box and the next magic box I want. Maybe just get better at cracking packs bitch
>>97333505Lorwyn was nothing like this.
>>97333825be honest: how many times before you have opened that box have you opened packs that were worthless and a loss?
>>97333819>cute angelsBest I can do.
>>97333819>Tribe are shit>Let me know what they release just trash weeb garbageImagine having tastes this bad.
>>97333789It's been almost 10 years since end game. I know that doesn't sound that long to the middle aged uncs who make up the majority of mtgs playerbase but that is a goddamn long time. Imagine if in 2011 wizards decided to make numetal sets around Korn and Linkin Park because of how popular that shit had been in 2001. If the Spiderman set had've dropped in 2015/2016 it probably would've sold gang busters because Spiderman hype was at its peak those years due to him finally being depicted in Marvel films. Meanwhile flash forward to today and nobody gives a fuck anymore and Holland has been flirting with retiring from the character. Wizards is way behind the curve on everything, even their whole sjw shit and pronouns are 6-7 years behind when the public still found that shit respectable. It really does feel like a grandpa game.
>>97333819bro this isn't /a/
>>97333840>shamanUm sorry sweatie but that's a racist typal that's been retired
>>97333819what exactly do you want a tribe to do?
>>97333858>It's been almost 10 years since end gameRounding up a bit there bud
>>97333885suck this dick
>>97333819You can make a tribe whatever you want through proxies.
>>97332846Get better deck boxes
>>97333916>needing to protect a shit commander card.
Bad Luck Agent 4BCreature - Human AssassinReveal this creature as you are searching a library you own. For the rest of the game, whenever a player searches their library, you control that player for the rest of the game.1/1
>>97333833I paid 30 bucks for the box and the proving grounds from all of my other winnings cause I only pull gas. I haven't paid for a pack in a looooong time. Get better luck nerd
>>97333919I protect all my cards
>>97333916>he says posting some generic 10 dollar one from amazon
>>97333993>he doesn’t post one at all
Got another two hour control game in with this deck. Hard to get a good litmus of how the deck was actually doing as I landed a turn 4 smothering tithe that just never left the board, but it was satisfying playing draw-go for an entire slog of a game.Had out Counterbalance with Scroll Rack, Opposition to tap down aggro creatures, and repeated flicker/bounce to recycle creatures that counter on ETB. But I would've liked to see a game where the table realized sooner what was happening and tried to actually break out. A lot of selfish board development plays that made them easy to single out.
>>97332859This one? I haven't updated it in a while at this point, but have a whole stack of cards on my desk that I really need to evaluate as possible additions.
WIZARDS OF THE COAST HAS RELEASED THE IDEAL SKELETON TRIBAL COMMANDERIt's even an enchantment in the command zone instead of a creature, making it resistant to removal.HOWEVERIt's a mechanically unique Secret Lair commander. Additionally, it's part of Secret Lair commander PRECON, with 95 cards that you already own. Only 4 cards (other than the commander) have unique art, and these are the only cards worth any money and these are the only cards you don't own.Additionally, it's a Universes Beyond secret lair drop for some furry shit like Twokinds (but with skeletons to celebrate black pride month and mexican day of the dead or something). Only the commander card and the 4 money cards even have Universes Beyond art, so the deck isn't even thematically consistent.You purchasing? How bad do you want that skeleton commander, bro?
>>97334063Proxy with doot doot skeltal as the art.
>>97334063>It's a mechanically unique Secret Lair commander.Who cares? I'll proxy it anyway
>>97334063I'm just going to proxy it and make it a goblin no matter what it is.
>>97334107awful
>>97334112Yes, the bottle should be between her ass cheeks
>>97334063I'm not a poorfag and I have standards so I'll just wait for the inevitable in-universe reprint
>>97334107God I fucking love goblins
>>97334078>>97334096>>97334107>>97334136Unfortunately, due to poor sales and poor reception, wotc has decided that people just aren't interested in skeletons as a tribe.As part of their continued effort to reduce the number of creature types, Skeletons have been errata'd to Zombies.On the bright side, you now have a ton of generically strong cards you can put into your Zombie deck.
>>97334154The issue with skeletons is that they aren't a real tribe and would need to be rebuilt from stage 1. There is little reason to play skeletons over zombies.
>>97334154>Skeletons have been errata'd to ZombiesDon't even joke about that.
>>97334154You need to actually give us skeletons in the first place before you can not have sales.
>>97334158I think the current standard deck of skeletons-as-token (like a black saproling) is the best iteration they've had as a unified tribe FACT
>>97334154>Skeletons have been errata'd to Zombies...good? That makes skeletons playable.
>>97334183Tell skeletists to play zombies and watch how they bristle.
>>97334107Is this really attractive to you? God damn.
>>97334194>he doesn't want to fuck goblinsgay
>keeps putting broken cards >calculator still says it's bracket 2
>>97334183its not the same, nigga! pic really related
>>97334160Cephalid players in shambles
>>97334217Explain the meaningful difference between a skeleton and a zombie. They should just both be Creature - Undead.
>>97334194Wouldn't make it if it wasn't, but I'll spare you from more.
>>97334239That's how every other fuckin game does it, goddammit
>>9733084950 cards is superior to 100
>>9733425050 cards, 20 life, still have a commander. 1v1 games. Sounds comfy
Can Arcane Signet and Felwar Stone create colorless mana?
>>97334269Are you asking if colorless is a color?
>>97334269No. Colorless mana is colorless. Duh.
>>97333505I remember. Everyone hated Lorwyn for a reason. Everyone deluded themselves and retconned history, pretending it was a beloved block and plane when it absolutely never was. It was also hated for introducing Planeswalker cards.
>>97333505>>97334288Rhystic Study (youtuber) said it was good.
>>97334269>used to combo with this and Dockside>my playgroup never caught onWhoops
>>97333505>>97334288People loved the flavor, not the mechanics. They shouldn't have leaned quite so hard on trying to recreate the latter.
>>97333570It absolutely is though. Retard!
>>97334323I distinctly remember everyone also hating the flavor, the weird tribes, the art direction, and everyone whined about it being underpowered with boring mechanics. The block was hated more than Kamigawa.
>get to 0 life with vorpal blade>repay in kindDamn thats gold
>>97334338Post your ID anon :) I dont think you were over 5 when lorwyn came out.
>>97334338I always thought the lorwyn art was absolutely ugly.
>>97334348doesn't work the way you think it does
>>97334371it would work if Tony DiTerlizzi had total art control
>>97334311that's right, and i always make my options from ytubers. yes sir.
>>97334311Spice8rack also said he lives lorwyn despite not playing while current
another set and nothing good for enchantress
>>97331270I've wanted to make a reaper king deck for a while but had no clue how to make one with how weak and limited the creatures were on average. It seemed like having spells that turn all your creatures into scarecrows and summoning tokens might be more effective.
>>97334400>heyou just misgendered xim chud
>>97334403he makes no efforts to be agender. some nail polish doesn't count.
>>97334311he's in Vegas a lot so that makes him based
>subhumans keep asking for skelly lord/commanderyou fuckers blind or also retarded?
>>97334422>creates zombiesYeah cool, bro.
>>97334422>not a skeleton>Doesn't make skeletons
>>97334416was there last summer, man the hookers were cheap and fucking wild. great time!
>>97334422shant be baited
>>97334401could be worse, your deck archetype could be a meme like kithkin tribal
Make all land animators earthbending
>>97334401You just had Duskmourn. Settle down.
>>97331703Wasn't that the point of planar chaos?
>>97334467No. A UB mechanic should never be evergreen
>>97334475Call it landimate then
How do you rate the new black draw engines? Eventide's Shadow reads "Draw your deck. Die." in my meta. Will give it a spin.
We need more UB planeswalkers
>>97334401Got an upgrade for my Sythis land ramp
>>97334485call it worldwaking, its a term already used in magic.
>>97334472yeah overlords and rooms were cool but eerie was disappointing and mostly on blue cards
>>97334508wizards has mandated that planeswalkers will only appear in UB if said UB is owned by wotcthe UW brand is already weak as it is, even they don't want to give away planeswalkers
>>97334401i'm doing just fine btw
>>97334520call back to the time i was on my news begging and praying that wotc would jump the shark with a triple axel mctwist and have minsc and boo show up in MoM to help save the day.
>>97334513how playable would all these shitty cards become if they errated the mechanic?>>97334520But Q needs to be a planeswalker
>>97334528>newsknees even, fuck me
>>97334401>nothing good for enchantressAnon, your deck not only doesn't need new cards it's fucking SOLVED.
>>97334526They're still doing world champ cards???? I thought they stopped doing this many years ago
>interact with opponent>wtf I thought we were playing bracket 3?Bros...
>>97334535i wouldn't say solved theirs a few different strategies and color combos it also never hurts to hope for new and exciting tool box cards
>>97334356I'm 36, basically a boomer. Lorwyn was mass hated upon release and during Lorwyn block standard.
>>97334511That's just a fertile ground variant.
>new errata>4 fucking creature typesFORWHATFUCKINGPURPOSE???
>>97334597shaman BAD
>>97334593Redundancy is suddenly a bad thing in singleton?
>>97334515>eerie was disappointing and mostly on blue cardsAs a red-inclusive enchantress fag, I cannot express how mad I was that they had a single red Eerie card and they couldn't even be fucked to have it be an Impact Tremors variant. And this after THB had no red Constellation cards at all!
>>97334597It's stupid wotc is removing shaman for being racist to native Americans when shaman originated from a Siberian word and there are shamans all over the world from every race, including Africans and European blond blue eyed white Samis. It really shows how ignorant and racist WotC is. By trying to be inclusive they reveal their own bigotry.
>>97334611Shaman is still in the errata? are you high or baiting?
>>97334593Yes I need more of them, especially in 2cmc range.
>>97334606>Redundancy is suddenly a bad thing in singleton?retards wouldn't be hating on tutors otherwise
>>97334597
>>97334526>face of some french fag>elf wearing glasses, in a magical world no less>flavour text has to have the name of said "pro" player
>>97334239Zombies>Wet>FleshySkeletons>Dry>BonyIf there's no meaningful difference between skeletons and zombies, then why not errata all zombies into skeletons? Every zombie got a skeleton in them, but not every skeleton got flesh hanging off them
>>97334634Wotc is replacing Shaman with the Sorcerer subtype for new cards. They aren't changing old shaman cards due to the previous Shaman tribal cards that have already been printed, you filthy casual zoom zoom.
>>97334611>when shaman originated from a Siberian word Yep.> there are shamans all over the world from every raceAnd you've put your foot in it. The vocabulary issue is actually that a lot of those races object to the use of the term "shamanism" to refer to their practices when it comes from a specific culture to which they don't belong. It gets even messier because the practices traditionally grouped by anthropologists as indicative of shamanism can also be found in non-shamanic contexts--it's an incredibly broad list more or less used to justify lumping anything outside of Abrahamic/Dharmic/Shinto/Taoist as "not REALLY a religion".>tl;drThe controversy over the term "shaman" isn't about it being offensive to depict them, it's about the fact that most "shamans" would prefer to be called "priests".
>mfw wotc will never do Shaman King collab because it's not Sorcerer King
>>97334659On the plus side, a Dark Sun set is looking more and more likely
>>97334634removing shaman nerfs it and wotc doesn't do power level errata anymore>are you high or baiting?no you're just a retard standing up for yet another dumb wotc move
>>97334658incorrect, it's because when wotc thinks of tribes and shamans they think of da injuns
>>97334674Can't forget totem as well.
>>97334658>it's about the fact that most "shamans" would prefer to be called "priests".>won't anyone please think of the minorities? stop stereotyping them!ok lib
>>97334647I bought one of these when they were way cheaper. I have one in Baral/Kari atm but Im going to remove it probably cause it doesn't seem to do much for me on average
>>97334674Anon, this is an actual controversy in anthropological circles. Yes, it is absurd that it has breached containment and threatened the blessed sanctity of our children's card game, but the way in which it's "racist" to use the term is in applying it to practices inspired by groups that reject it. While it was before WotC bought TSR, it's also the case that D&D has a particularly bad history with the term--the 2E Shaman supplement had as its big secret that the spirit world doesn't really exist and it's just a figment of mortals' imaginations.
>>97334701Don't give a single fuck about satanic third worlders.
>mfw wizards will censor the word magic because it's haram in Islam
>>97334701>the 2E Shaman supplement had as its big secret that the spirit world doesn't really exist and it's just a figment of mortals' imaginations.
>Mfw wizards will censor the word gathering during the net pandemic
>>97334679Let me be clear: I think it's retarded to retire shaman as a creature type. This is a fantasy game about a fantasy world with fantasy practices, none of which should be assumed to have any bearing on real-world faiths. I just happen to be aware of the long-running argument on this particular issue, which has been going on for something like two decades now.It annoys me greatly when people present false narratives about things I disagree with because those just serve as an excuse to ignore legitimate objections and arguments against those things. My autism simply won't let me remain silent.
>>97334721>>97334701sounds absolutely based
>>97334709But enough about Americans.
>>97334721>AI says so, that means it's trueIt's called slop for a reason.
>mfw when wotc removes all interaction due to creating conflict, that's a no-no because dont you know were in a rules based world order and that we're at the end of history?
>>97334701>anthropological circles >racistIt will only get worse, I was just taught last semester the scientific method was racist, not scientific conclusions reached by biased researchers, but the scientific method itself.
>>97334742Everything AI said in that image is true albeit
>>97334741Ok chang just rev up those printers why dontcha
None of you white niggers have a shaman deck don't lie
>>97334775Fuck, now I want french fries.
>>97334775If there was enough support in mono black I would
>>97334775i have a Tuvasa deck and she is a shaman
>>97334658Are any of the goblin and elf shamans depicted on wotc cards speaking out against it?
