Have you seen this Primarch edition>Previous Heresy: >>97313986>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:What models would you update next?
>TQNew female custodians so I can finally replace this pile of shame that has been in my gaping maw of an asshole.
>TQ plastic tiddy justaerin
>TQGive me plastic Scyllax and Vorax and I'll be happy
>>97332279PSA: the new cataphractii have power armour handsif you're good at cutting, can be a decent option for kitbashing different weapons on them
>>97332279>What models would you update next?YOU CAN'T STOP WHAT'S COMING
>>97332514Good on GW for saving me so much money by ruining their whole range.
>>97332279>>Thread question:>What models would you update next?Fliers would be nice in plastic.
>>97332279>TQAll the new plastics.
I finished up that other loyalist praetor I was working on.
>>97332533This but unironically.
>>97332569cool beans though i would reallly really like if you at least painted the studs on the shoulder
>>97332688I tried a bunch of combination options like that photoshop and I thought it looked too busy (painting studs & various additional amounts of the trim). I was particularly concerned that painting the studs detracted from the prominence of the blue from the model's golden angle, (especially since I had so much magenta visible at that angle). Looking at it finished I think I should have done some stronger blue chipping / weathering on the shoulder pad. Seeing it photographed that shoulder pad does look kind of underdeveloped compared to the rest of the model.
i know the editing is laughably bad, but considering i'm doing this with the default phone photo app it could be far worse
>>97332897That's actually really cool, I should do that for an AT game
>>97332917second attempt
>>97333179Any picture with a titan stomping around a buiding is kink
Wait the angron model is still not out?Why did they announce it? When did they announce it? Who am I?
>>97333237they announced it in febuarywe are now in january
>>97332533I think pegs are better because you can shave them off easily.
>>97333179I fucking love seeing these battle edits or whatever they're called
>>97333242If I had a penny for every time GW has announced a model and it took so long to release it that I forgot about it, then was reminded of its existence while it remains unreleased, I'd have two pennies.Which isn't much but it's weird that it happened twice.
>>97333295atomantic pavaise my beloved
>>97333312I could never forget her
>>97333289>>97333209>>97332917good to see you like it, i'll try to do more in the futurei also need to get another of these backdrop from the lgs for even larger angle pictures
>>97333317there was also the k'daii destroyer.and we never got the next throne of chaos books
>>97333317we remember cyraxus
>>97333327>k'daii destroyer>google itI didn't know that was a thing. And now I'm mad.
>>97333327fuck that thing, rules abomination and the model was bad toothe only redeeming thing about the destroyer is that its a cool concept, and a lack of model encouraged conversions.
I'm going to prime and basecoat these guys tomorrow, probably will do more. The HSS in the back still need their power tubes bent into place before i can prime+basecoat them but I'm a lazy bum so I'll do that later. Is a Tartaros Command Squad with vigil shields fine at a 5 man squad? Or should they be a tenner?
>>97333179BASED
>>97333317>>97333295we still think about you
>>97333317>>97333470why not PROONT? surely someones made those designs by now right?
>>97333317I love this bit, reminds me of the VF-31E
>>97333317They sooner removed the fucking rules and prevent anyone from using it, AND THEN released a fucking Turret nobody's heard of (Araknae) with said Pavaise, than release the actual Pavaise.Maduro rose and fell (2013-2026) before we got the Atomantic Pavaise (rules released 2015)
>>97333470what am I looking at here other than extra armor with rivets?
>>97333532i've printed a pavaise just to fill the hole in my heart
Have you guys used Effrit? I don't trust 4-shot Banestrike combibolters, and I trust 2-shot shotguns even less. Like it's going to Stun 0 a Coolness 9 terminator
>>97333877If you only use /hhg/'s metric Effrit look bad yes.
>>97333877Always use your legion specific units
>>97333877read Hydra's Wail. That's the point of Effrit. It's almost as good as Fear2 by itself, and it stacks with other Fears (fears normally never stack). It costs some points, but if it lets you totally immobilize the enemy's 500-1000 point melee brick or rout them to their board edge or keep their 4man Rapier unit stuck snapfiring all game then it's easily paid for the extra 40-50 pt fee added on top of some elites statline.Nuncio vox status removal is the only thing that keeps statuses from ruining the game, but only certain units get them (for example rapiers and terminator bricks rarely ever do), and Precision guns (seekers/headhunters/exodus) can strip Nuncio voxes from the squads that do. If your army is built around zero status (2x inversion saturnine builds) then effrit, an information warfare unit, does nothing for you. If your army bathes the enemy in you-cant-move, you-cant-aim, youre-running-away, you-cant-score-objectives, you-are-initiative-1, then Effrits make the army do that much, much better. And it's easy and cheap now that every basic rhino gets the needs to be nerfed Havoc Launcher with 48" Stun(1) on it to tap every squad trying to score an objective. Combine with Fear1 and Fear2 auras to maximize the odds of success (librarians with spooky lores or Diabolists, heralds, Infernus Abomination, allied Nightlords like even Fear2 Sevatar, daemons like Ka'bandha with Fear2, Samus/Corbax Fear1, etc)
>>97333877You forgot something. They all have power daggers, so find some cheap disposable squad, shotty and charge, Power sword and power dagger on the leader. I used them in 2.0, haven't gotten a game in of 3.0 yet, to just clean up hurt squads and hunt weaker ones, or ranged squads while they focused on their designated targets.
>>97333877The entire unit can have meltabombs for 25 pts. Besides the other things they do you can put a bomb squad in a Rhino and blow even a super-heavy tank into orbit.>>97334060Effrit are still very good at that. Though so far each I've used Effrit in 3.0 the opponent got so frustrated with them they send their elite melee unit to deal with the Effrit.
>>97334174Yeah, I found if they got tied up with a real powerhouse unit they just folded. Hence why I picked on weaker units with them. Also that sounds hilarious to me. Pissing people off with effrit sounds like a blast.
>>97334053>It's almost as good as Fear2 by itselfit's a 1/16 chance to roll a higher 2nd D6 than the first; in fact it's worse than that (even though the roll itself is technically out of 206 for rolling 3D6) because the rule is worded so ambiguously: "discard the lower roll" means you compare that 3rd D6 to both the dice you would normally roll, which becomes 1/256 (16*16); that you're rolling all 3D6 together doesn't influence that one bit"if the test is passed, the Controlling Player of a Model with this Special Rule may choose to discard one of the D6 results and have that Dice rolled again" would be better (1/16 natural, but also unnaturally low chance of success if the test actual were passed on a high double), but still significantly worse than "Hydra's Wail (1)" or whatever the stacking rules would otherwise be, largely because (1) is easy to understand and apply and doesn't require screwing around with rerolls that basically don't exist any more, and applies directly to the Characteristic being Checked rather than trying to modify the probability of that Check failing
>>97333893>They're bad vs termies, the main thing HHG cares aboutAnon, their shotguns have Shred. That's good literally only against 2W things. ...eh, they're regular shotguns, really. Shred 6 is basically no shred at all.>>97334037>>97334060Headhunters have daggers as well. I know Effrit have 2W and the Wail, but it's kinda the same thing, no?: Shoot, hope for Breaching, charge with Daggers if convenient.>>97334053I would combine Effrit with an assload of Havoc launcher Stun and Seeker's Suppression. Not Panic (Seekers, Flamers, Phosphex) because Wails don't affect Ld, only Cool & Int. I don't think I'll use Pinning (Grav).Seeing how Sniper rifles merely gain S+1 (S5) from standing still, maybe I could arm a couple of Effrit with them, like they were special weapons. Or should I ditch the shotguns for snipers? It's so expensive!!
>>97334263What happens when you roll a 6 does not define the main role of a unit. Shred is more of a neat bonus that can sometimes come in clutch, but that's it.Effrit have 2 attacks, headhunters only have 1 attack. Honestly all power daggers are on headhunters is a points tax for having cool models, because sadly they're just worse more expensive seekers for the third edition in a row.Only take a few snipers in an Effrit squad, you want them for the status effect not the damage.
>>97334257you're fucking terrible at math. You can get the exact answer at anydice, it's only very slightly worse than Fear2 and far, far ahead of Fear1.
>>97334318the issue is just that Seekers are overpowered, rather than that Effrit need any changes.Seekers should be nerfed to Precision5+ Breaching5+. They're way too over-statted by miles and it's not even close.
>>97334318Don't be like that guy from a previous thread who was saying Seekers are better than Headhunters – they fill different niches. They are complementary, you are meant to use both.Seekers supporting from afar, Headhunters ambushing up close. Thanks for the info on Effrit though
>>97334412Don't bully our residential mathlet, he's kind of adorable
>>97333333W-W-W-WITNESSED
>>97333333
>>97334423don't be a dumb faggot and ignore actual game design or maths. "being up close" is not a role or a benefit. If two things shoot equally well, the one with 30" range instead of 18" is automatically far superior. If one thing has only 18" range but puts out 3x more shooting damage per point, then you'd say "here's them doing 300% damage that's how they're better. The thing that makes you look like the world's stupidest faggot is you say "headhunters job is being up close" but then can't provide a single piece of evidence that they're good at any job up close and don't get fucked in the ass instantly like you when your uncle walks in the room.
>>97334421Wouldn't say seekers are overpowered. They're good yes, but not overbearing or hard to deal with in any way. Seekers die like tactical marines when it comes down to it, usually they only get to shoot once before getting neutralised by rhinos shooting at them or something (from what I've seen)
>work through backlog>find 60mm base>no idea what it goes toI guess I'm converting a daemon hierarch?
>>97334448>"being up close" is not a role or a benefit.
>>97333827I assume that's an unreleased model for contemptor-cortus dreads.
>>97333622Never forget what Khyron the Backstabber did in 2014. Just another day in the AotSC brother.
Dubs for Horus
>>97333426Uhm akctualy the two headed eagle is not used for astartes legiones only custodes
>>97334448>If two things shoot equally well, the one with 30" range instead of 18" is automatically far superiorIf two things shoot equally well, the one that can also meltabomb a superheavy is automatically superior.If two things shoot equally well, the one that can also use Smokebombs is automatically superior.If two things shoot equally well, the one that can also outfight all A1 squads is automatically superior.See, talking shit in the void is pointless. Stop arguing about whether beer or pizza is better, and just have both.Yes, their melee is pitiful compared to anything else, but so is Seekers'. Seekers get to switch ammo for inflicting Statuses, Headhunters get knives to go with their massed meltabombs. To each their own.
>>97334804Damn
>>97334812See the problem is headhunter shooting is worse than seeker shooting. Headhunters are kind of a jack of all trades, master of non unit. They got shooting, but for the cost it's kinda bad. They got melee weapons, but not the attacks to make it count. Their point cost is so high that tactical marines more often than not trade up in points value killed against them.Honestly, being a meltabomb squad is probably their most effective use.
>>97334822Don't listen to that anon, you're getting trolled.
>>97334861I knew he was trolling hence my half assed response
>>97334804Didn't Emperor's Children have the eagle?
>>97334840>headhunter shooting is worse than seeker shootingThey do a bit more damage, though vastly more exposed at about half the range. And they have no Status utility like Seekers do.>Their point cost is so high that tactical marines more often than not trade up in points value killed against them.Good point. At their best (60 shots stationary) Tacticals do kill ~7 Headhunters (158 pts). On the contrary, 10 Headhunters (225 pts) kill 9 marines (90 pts) ;__;So, if Tacs spend a reaction, they will repel HH while Seekers can just attack with impunity outside their range. But if it is Tacticals who are attacking (40 shots), then they lose.What if we dismiss the notion of balance and fairness? As in, I've always thought the power of a Space Marine is Force Density. Each of them is said to be as powerful as 10 men occupying barely the space of a big man. Like a whole company of mortal men in every Rhino.Could we, then, see Headhunters as an entire 20-man Tactical squad that fits in the space of 10 models? 10 who can fit in a Rhino or Ruin, where 20 may be prey to the new LoS rules. Who begin the game in position instead of having to set up before doing Fury.I am probably going to use them for meltabomb delivery, but I think they are cool models, and I'm hopeful they have some utility, even if incidental.
>>97334543that makes sense, and upon closer inspection his reactor has a radiator of sorts instead of a greebly hatch
>>97334997The compressed Tac Squad is really a vet squad with combi-bolters (or combi-banestrike, in this case) - 20 wounds, 20 bolter's worth of dakka, scores, fits in a rhino. Headhunters are cool, but I think if you're not headhunter bombing with them you basically want to grab meltaguns and go opportunistically character/medium vehicle hunting, since trading with the bolters tends to go badly.
>>97334917One headed not two.>>97334861Nu-sculpt slop error.
>>97334864I'm honestly not trolling, incredible how many tourists there are on /hhg/.
>>97335090>>97335100There are tons of examples proving you wrong, from any time period. You tourists are so bad at trolling it's just sad.
>>97335100Being new to the hobby does not mean to be a tourist I would say. And yes another anon, only EC was permitted to wear the double headed eagle by Emperor himself. Check for example Palatine blade squad, they have the aquila on their torsos, then check any other legion and you will not find id. This contemptor is just a confirmation that nugw absolutely do not care about integrity and their own legacy.
>>97335207Just check Betrayal black book. This is the only source of truth
Would this be too daemonic looking for an EC character?
>>97335218That's not a palatine aquila you dumb fuck, the palatine one is the semi circular upswept wing one that's on Emperor's children. There are many variants of the aquila.
>>97335228He's a retard but using one of Algrim's shitty fanmade photoshop isn't helping your case
>>97335228Even as a thumbnail that is a blatant shop, what are you smoking?
>>97335211Didn't know all spartans and land raiders belonged to the EC, incredible!Before you ask, yes those are the old resin FW spartan and land raider.
Imagine not being able to see the difference between these.
>>97332279Rate my AL list>Crusade Detachment (Alpha Legion) - 170 pts>Pathfinder with Power Dagger + Combat Shield + Melta Bombs (True Believers) - 80 pts>Saboteur - 95 pts>Headhunter Leviathal (Alpha Legion) - 790 pts>2x 10 man Effrit Disruption Cadre with Power Daggers + Melta Bombs (True Believers) - 345 pts>Headhunter Leviathal (Alpha Legion) - 790 pts>2x 10 man Effrit Disruption Cadre with Power Daggers + Melta Bombs (True Believers) - 345 pts>Allied Detachment (Mechanicum) - 700 pts>Magos with Power Axe + Conversion Beamer + Machinator Array + Rad Furnace + Unseal the Portal + Ætheric Amplification (Reductor + Heterodox) - 210 pts>4x Tech-Priest with Power Axe + Servo-Arm + Rad Grenades + Ætheric Amplification (Lacrymaeta + Heterodox) - 85 pts>Scyllax Guardian Maniple (Logistical Benefit) - 100 pts>Taghmata Cohort (Mechanicum) - 600 pts>4x 15 man Tech-Thrall Covenant - 150 ptsMain gimmick is that with Guide from the Tech-Priests, the Effrits are BS6, so on 6s to hit their shotguns are autowounding at AP2 D3. This means a squad of 10 is getting an average of 3 dead Termies assuming they've been debuffed by the Rad Grenades (which is an increase of 2/3s over what they'd overwise get). Plus this also makes the Pathfinder WS6 and thats while he's already hitting at I7 with +1 to Focus from being Light, another +1 from his Combat Shield and another +2 from the Effrits (who also have Stun from their shotguns).The drawback is Ætheric Amplification is only 6", so the plan is to infiltrate the AL while the Tech-Priests and Thralls are there to hold objectives while they catch up up to buff the Effrits. As for the Magos, he's sitting back on a home objective with his Conversion Beamer ready to Unseal the Portal and instant wipe the enemy death star if possible.
>>97335281Why has the right side gotten its left head Kennedy'd?>>97335283>AL list>Looks inside>It's another list abusing the Malefic and Unseal the Portal oversights while half the list is fucking Ad MechDaring today aren't we
>>97335281Every time.
>>97335291Both of those are from the wiki page, showing the Palatine Aquila on the left and the post-Heresy Aquila on the right.Calm down, baby boy.
Oh well, my knowledge about the aquila was extra pswudo. Luckily hhg exsists
>>97335290The head on the left is sighted and peers into the future, the head on the right is blinded to look at the past. Or the the head on the left gazes into the material realm, whilst the head on the right looks into the immaterium (the Warp)tldr: it's an eye not a bullet wound
>>97335283>ready to Unseal the Portal and instant wipe the enemy death starUnseal the Portal just forces the squad to disembark and it doesn't look like you have the ranged fire to "instant wipe" a primarchstar
suffer not splayed or partial chickens on one's wargear
>>97335290Honestly I am starting to feel I dunno about all these allied with mech lists. Just do a mech army, they are fun.I kinda want to post my AL list, but it will get mocked for being basic probably. It's the evolution of an old 1.0 HH PotL list.
>>97335323>Just do a mech army, they are fun.I agree, killing 50% of the enemy army via a single Unseal the Portal is incredibly fun
>>97335283>Having to wait for the magos to waddle into range before being able to do the gimmick>Having the headhunters and effrit infiltrated forward, meaning they're just gonna get charged and killed turn 1It's shit.
>>97335291Are you stupid?
>>97335332Don't reply to trolls bro, it's not worth the energy.
My 2k AL list, open for mockery and such.Preator on foot, paragon archeo for rule of coolHerald with fist (See rule of cool)2 tart cents with TL lightning claws.Tac squad for LB-ReconEffrit squad of 5 with power daggers, shotguns, melta bombs and a power sword on the leader.Gorgon squad of 5Levi with claw and melta cannon (His name is Iso, since it means big)2 tart squads of 2 fists 2 claws and a chainfist on the leaderCata squad with claws and bolters, save for the heavy flamer and the leader with TL claws.Land speeder with 2X melta gun
>>97335358Where are your Lernaeans?
>>97335365They were sold out, and I ended up buying invictus suzies for my smurfs instead. And now I just haven't found good STLs of them. Since I avoid telegram and things like that.
The only Combi-Weapons that should be unlimited use are combi-bolters, combi-flamers and combi-grenade launchers.Everything else, especially combi-volkites, should be 1 shot. Prove me wrong.
>>97334804
>>97335372All combis should just be a bolter and a special weapon combined.
>>97335372>Is willing to get unlimited combi-Panic but not combi-volkiteExplain your reasoning, if any.
>>97335405Because the whole 'it's hard to reload' doesn't line up for a combi-flamer because connecting it to the backpack should be exactly the same
>>97335414Combi-rotor brrrr :^)
Did someone say... combi-weapons?
>>97335437>combiThose are longi-weapons.
>>97335434That's just a rotor cannon with a co-axial bolter
>>97335207>>97335383These FW marine and contemptor sculpts were initially created for the Badab war, hence why the first resin tartaros also had the crux terminatus which was later removed on future sculpts since they went full horus heresy with the range.
>>97335274These were also made for the Badad War initially not for Heresy, so you are still wrong. I can't believe people are so ignorant.
>>97335274These are literally in the badab war Red Scorpions color scheme too lmao you clown.
>>97335454They never replaced the MkII sculpts and as far as I can tell, the 40k tartaros was never used in HH (beyond some terrain). And even if the models weren't kosher, they still made drawings of them and used them in the books with full acknowledgement that they had aquilas. Not to forget all the vehicles which to this day have (options) for aquilas despite getting full HH upgrades.
>>97335487The plastic nu-mkII have a skull buckle not an eagle. Double eagles are still not kosher for astartes legions but is for custodes, even if FW is being schitzo about it. There are also godwyn pattern bolters in the FW black books were they shouldn't be. FW isn't perfect, another example are the tourists in the Prospero book.
>>97335518>tourists in the Prospero bookElaborate
>>97335518>They (FW) never replaced the MkII sculpts (like they did with contemptors and tartaros).I always forget internet autism.>Double eagles are still not kosher for astartes legions>There are also godwyn pattern bolters in the FW black books were they shouldn't be.Based on what? Sounds like more internet autism.
All modern kits btw
>>97335577All mistakes.
>>97335518>>97335487Plastic Scimitars still have those double headed eagles btw.
>>97335633That's what we call a "mistake"
>>97335365>Where are your Lernaeans?I got you anon>Crusade Detachment** - 870 pts>Cataphractii Siege Breaker (Paragon of Battle) w/ Thunder Hammer, Banestrike Combi-Bolter and Venom Spheres - 145 pts>Delegatus w/ Power Maul - 110 pts>Master of Signals - 115 pts>10 man Tactical Squad w/ Chain Bayonets, Vexilla and Nuncio Vox - 140 pts>10 man Tactical Squad w/ Chain Bayonets, Vexilla and Nuncio Vox - 140 pts>10 man Tactical Squad w/ Chain Bayonets, Vexilla and Nuncio Vox - 140 pts>Augur Command and Control Squad (Logistical Benefit) - 80 pts>Army Vanguard Detachment - 1 260 pts>5 man Lernaean Terminator Squad w/ Banestrike Combi-Bolters and Conversion Beam Cannon - 305 pts>5 man Lernaean Terminator Squad w/ Banestrike Combi-Bolters and Conversion Beam Cannon - 305 pts>5 man Lernaean Terminator Squad w/ Banestrike Combi-Bolters and Conversion Beam Cannon - 305 pts>10 man Effrit Disruption Cadre (Logistical Benefit) w/ Power Daggers and Melta Bombs - 345 pts>Armoured Support Detachment - 525 pts>Arquitor Bombard w/ Phosphex Shells and Searchlights - 175 pts>Arquitor Bombard w/ Phosphex Shells and Searchlights - 175 pts>Arquitor Bombard w/ Phosphex Shells and Searchlights - 175 pts>Armoured Fist Detachment - 345 pts>Dreadclaw Drop Pod - 115 pts>Dreadclaw Drop Pod - 115 pts>Dreadclaw Drop Pod - 115 pts
>>97335585Whoever bullied you as a kid didn't beat you hard enough
>>97335654That's what your parents told you LMAO GOT EM
>>97333312>>97333317What they took from us..
Disintegrator Rifles should be S4 AP2 D1 with Shred (5+) rather than S4 AP3 D2 like they currently are.Shit I'd even accept S4 AP2 D1 without the Shred at all, anything is better than their current role of "Department of Veterans' Affairs in space"
>>97335760Yeah...the overload screws disintegrator weapons on all platforms. It amazes me they put them front and center for the new releases and edition...yet they suck. Well at least they can't be accused of pushing pay-to-win with the newest toys.
I think it's very sweet that in this book we find out Fulgrim found himself a girlfriend.
>>97335863Why does Fulgrim have angel wings?
>>97335903Since I wasn't the one who drew this why the fuck do you think I know? Fucking dickhead, stop being such a retard.
>>97336002Anon I was just asking a question in general, know need to spergout over it
>>97335903i would suspect they're an artifact of the daemonic self-refashioning he underwent and possess connotations of divinity and perfect beauty in his eyes so he bestowed the aspect upon himselfthose in the gw renditions are a whole lot more leathery of course so maybe his tastes adjusted and they in turn alongsidehe's just fukken fabulous mang
>>97335863Perterabo is not fulgrim's girlfriend.
>>97335523https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/65424613/#65427715>Book 7 introduced the concept of footage including the tourists that witnessed events like the burning of Prosperoit gets posted every now and then. this is the one I found first.
>>97336088How does this even happen?
>>97336088Anon those are just the Remembrancers
>>97336094lack of quality control happens all the time in GW and especially in FW while it still existed. and in this particular case, bligh died before finishing prospero. rip misericordia.
>>97336094Bligh dies
company line herald/provisional command squad standard bearer !eater filth but the SoH command models are utterly to-die-for so thus his shape is so
>>97336088You are pretty newfag if you don't know about this
>>97336104Yes, hence all the schitzo double headed eagles spill over from badab to the horus heresy>>97335567I am not autistic my guy
>>97332897>>97333179SOVL
>>97334421I dont think seekers are "overpowered", theyre 20pts tactical marines in terms of durability, but they are very good and I wouldnt mind them being a bit worse.
>>97335577Things got awful quiet after I posted this.Just saying.
>>97336460Anon they are an error, GW is incompetent and lack consistency.
How did you pick your legion? I picked the Iron Hands because I like grim fucks and cyborgs (also the number nine is fucked up in this pick)
>>97336478Iron Hands? The legion that lost their primarch first?
am I missing something with return fire?>shoot tank>tank declares return fire>oh it just fires at full ballistic skill, cant find anything that says it fires with snap shots or only defensive weapons???then whats the point of a decurion locus? making the weapon defensive doesnt do anything in a return fire reaction as it needs to already be defensive to get the +1 to hit?help??? page number?
>>97336504Vehicles only ever return fire/react with defensive weapons. Its not in the reaction rules, it's under vehicle rules.
>>97336509I looker but couldnt find it, which page?
>>97336514I was wrong, its under the reaction rules, specifically "using reactions">Shooting Attacks made as part of a Reaction may not be made without Line of Sight, including with Weapons with the Barrage (X) Special Rule or other Weapons or Special Rules that otherwise ignore Line of Sight, and models with the Vehicle Type may only attack with Defensive Weapons.Page 205
>>97336571But yea, its absolutely hidden in the text, its not under the "vehicles and reactions" header or whatever, and in fact that section makes it seem like it isnt the case, since they state that reactions that only allow defensive weapons will say so (and some do), but then ALL shooting reactions only allow defensive weapons. Its dumb and poorly explained and I cannot doubt anyone who reads those rules and thinks "wait, I can just return fire with whatever?"
>>97336478Ultramarines for the leaning hard into the Roman vibe, given the price of being the poster boys in 40k meant they got stripped of all flavor there.Alpha legion for the metallic paint scheme, lore, and versatility that they can feasibly be in every engagement at every point in the heresy.
>>97336492It builds character
>>97336478Color scheme. For TS the candy red and for blackshields the scorched-armor effect I made kinda by accident.
>>97336478Alpha Legion because my preferred play style is basically how they fight - which is trying to pull off way to complex gimmicks for style that backfire and fail spectacularly more often than not.
>>97336571thanks lad!
>>97336478i am a word bearer at heart by virtue of a very theological bend to my seekings but i admire foremostly and lean into the assembly of a traitor world eater force because they are truly beautiful and unblemished in their singleness and purity of purpose encompassed in the simple concept of violence in and of itself in all of its malignance
>>97336478I like blue.
>mechanicum player got mad that I status effect'd his characters and he lost the game because of it as he couldnt score objectives
>>97336432Kraken bolters were fine for attacking with impunity, but ones would switch to Scorpius at 24". And we'd never actually use Tempest.Now it's effectively Krakscorpius for killing, and Tempest got Suppression even artillery doesn't get. You need a heavy bolter battery to do the Suppression 2 Tempest does.Can't have Status 0, it's gotta be a modifier of 1. Unless you are shotguns or shrapnel, apparently.Would Suppression 1 be that useless for Seekers?I said Banestrike should be full AP3 in 2.0 and you guys said a 2-shot S4 AP3 gun would break the game. Enjoy your 2-shot S4 Breaching 4+ gun, fuckers
>>97336811>You need a heavy bolter battery to do the Suppression 2 Tempest does.Which is 40pts for 8 s5 shots at a longer range.
>>97336811>Can't have Status 0Yes you can? Seekers have either panic(0) or suppressive(1)
>>97336651Man that retarded helmet really ruins a great mini
maybe I should put more status effect causing stuff into my listsicaran punishers with havoc launchers went crazy today, even if they didn't inflict much damage
>>97336712Are you me?
Whats a good source for sniper scouts?
Getting a bit sick of playing on flat maps, are their any companies makeing realm of battle style plastic boards?
>>97336712Yes and smug monologues
>>97336819It's Panic 1, Suppressive 2. But yeah, they do cost more and are in a rarer slot than >>97336814 Rapiers indeed
>>97336673I don't think the legion got ahead after that.
>>97336767Wait, which blue are you?
Started my big boy, might actually hit my goal.of 1k full painted by the end of jan early
>>97336478I just thought the Phoenix Terminators and Palatine Blades looked cool.
so mech robots can suffer from status effects as long as theres a non-automata model in the unit right?
