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wow, bears really are the coolest clan...
>>97336552Dommy Mommy edition?
Is it chalcas to unjam your firearm on your own instead of bringing it to a technician? Are technicians allowed to load, clear and fire weaponry to ascertain functionality or must they have a warrior accompany them for those steps?Is experimental equipment produced by scientists or commissioned to trusted merchants?Would hunting dangerous wildlife for food and resources fall under the purview of warriors, laborers or merchants?
>>97336612Butte Hold Edition anon, always has been.
>>97336313We know it exists in the Federated Suns at least.This is apparently from Shrapnel #14's "Great Work", where a Ghost Bear is complaining about an Osiris they captured from a Federated Suns pilot.
Whats the longest in game mekHQ game you've run? When to when?
>>97336637I always figured that the warrior caste would have technicians that function as their personal caddy.
>>97336560Those are some really goddamn small elementals.
>>97336888The clans use freebirth infantry troo
>>97336952They sent freebirths to represent them at the martial Olympiad?
https://battletech.com/playtest-battletech/
What's the best way to use the firestarter omnimech?
>>97337672Like a Phoenix Hawk
>>97336552Need Ghost Bear Mommy
>>97336774B-anons final form.
>>97336774>fishnet tummy cutoutgood taste
>>97337545Ik shit's old and such but battletech is not going to go the Warhammer way with an endless, ever faster update cycle I hope?
>>97337672ambushes and traps
Can conventional fighters go in aerospace bays?
>>97338020hot
>>97338193from my megamek testing of shoving mechbusters in a union, yes
>>97336552FOR THE SILVER ROOT!
>>97338233She can suck my root any day. What an absolute semen daemon.
>>97338210They make ASF with AC20's you know. Do you just hate your pilots?
Your favorite Clan will NEVER be featured in a game as anything but a stepping stone or namedrop.
>>97337992What? No, don't be an idiot. Battletech has used the same ruleset for 40 years, with an increasing number of subsystems and special rules grafted onto it. Doing a major rules overhaul every 40 years is fine. It's not what GW is doing at all.>you weren't applying the +1 heat for attempting to stand anyway, so who cares if they get rid of it?
>>97338321asf is rare, conventional fighters are cheap
Looking into it, isn't the Mechbuster actually relatively rare since it looks like it only had 1-2 manufacturers towards the coreward of the Inner Sphere? Wouldn't you be more likely to get a Meteor instead?
>>97338342Yes, but for a force coming from outside ASF is better because it can be used on every step of the invasion. Conventional fighters can only be used after you have already reached the planet surface. Mercenary handbook also mentioned conventional craft must be adjusted to differences in atmosphere so they might not be available right away.Definitely a good choice for garrison forces.
>>97338330Anon what are you talking about?? Jade Falcons get plenty attention?
>>97338384They'd be good for a low end merc force that hasn't been able to even hope for asf support. Medium strike fighters are surprisingly cheap and can carry enough bombs to support objective completion.
>>97336552She kinda reminds me of Vanessa KirbyWhat mech does she pilot?
>>973369633067 wasn’t exactly the high point for anyone but Word of Blake…
>>97338334>>you weren't applying the +1 heat for attempting to stand anyway, so who cares if they get rid of itcompletely fair, it's a stupid bloat rule that adds nothing but extra lines on the page.
>>97338334Thank you for clarifying, anon! I'm only getting up to speed with modern Battletech since I got the agoac box and a Battletech manual for Christmas and I am not that familiar with cgl. I have not played in a few years but the newest edition I have is from the 2003 Classic Battletech box and before that a 4th edition agoac. I guess I can get a new rulebook when it releases or just keep using the rules we have always used
>>97338321I love the mechbuster
>>97336552was it just me or was wolves of tukayyid a downgrade in terms of character model quality and animation?
>>97336552For me? It's Akari ito.
>>97338606I think the Wolves DLC was quickly sharted out to try and make MW5 Clans profitable for the next quarter.
Got a couple questions regarding the Cluster Hitter ability as we are doing a campaign and i'm running a sort of long range HAG sniper.First question for example if i hit with the aimed shot with a HAG-20 and hit center torso is all the damage consider 1 hit or 4 5 point hits in the center torso?2. It says use all the rules for the Marksman rules so I'm guessing I get benefits from Targeting Computer when I do so?3. If it works that way does the benefits apply to Missile Weapons and LBXs?
>>97338334>you weren't applying the +1 heat for attempting to stand anywayWait. Thats a rule?
So I learned today that the opfor can hit a force deployed to the AO more than once before it returns. I now get to enjoy a fight with damaged mechs, but fortunately no wounded pilots. Additionally my support elements are caught up in it although I plan to just flee my salvage trucks. Honestly I am pretty stoked.
The Sai and Defender are shown using the same art, but both are really different since one is a missile conventional fighter while the other is an energy aerospace fighter. The art all shows being missile fighters, so does that mean the art should be for the Defender and the Sai is TBD, or something else?
>>97338761Wtf are those "runes" on her pyjamas? I can see a treble clef and wine glasses. Is she a bard or clown?
So in ATB its a mission where I can capture a DS, but I literally get no option to select it as salvage. How do you handle that?
>>97339019There are Sai models with SRMs in the wings, the Sai's art is just one of those.
>>97338761SEXOOOO
>>97339330But they look exactly the same
What do FWLeaguers do when they lose an eye, nose, or a limb or something? 'Fuck it I'm still not going to get a new hand to fap?'
>>97339557They get cybernetics, it's a stigma, not a ban. At least on most worlds. Also, medically necessary cybernetics are a lot less disliked than elective enhancements.
I took a break from playing Battletech to play XCOM again. I didn't forget that XCOM is a harder game, but I forgot the feeling of how much harder it is. 2 game overs on the 1st mission already and this 3rd playthrough feels like it's going to be a loss now that I've had a full party wipe. Lost both of my new Corporals. Battletech made has made me overconfident.
>>97339557Cyber limbs to replace a missing one? They're okCyber limbs to "improve" your body (aka chop your arms like the mechfags and iron hands of wh40k)? Degenerancy, even for clannershttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Artificial_Limbs
>>97339720Biological replacements even exist, don't they? You don't need to commit to machine replacements
>>97339780Limbs cloning yeah, it's more common in clanners though, but probably such technology was replicated somewhere in the inner sphere at some point
>>97339846~Do you want to be a Catgirl?
>>97339332this gothic waterly?
>>97339884>Do you want to see how deep the dr moreau rabbit hole goes?No
>>97340082Yes I would like to see that. Manmade horrors beyond imagination are just the best.
>>97340101Abominations in base battletech when
What is the most Canadian mech? I want to paint one red and white
>>97340101>>97340140That's basically Battletech Gothic with stuff like pic related, official artwork of Golden Unity (AKA Capellan Confederation in the main universe)
>>97339884As a staunch transhumanist IRL i would be well at home there. the body is just a meat mech for your brain
>>97340202But I don't want Gothic, I want even more horrors beyond comprehension in Battletech
>>97340202The lizard thing on the right looks like something straight out of an old Heavy Metal magazine
>>97340205wrong. your entire corporeal existence is just a life of mortality , free will, granted your soul by god, existence. for which you can love God, praise and believe in god, and have the life everlasting after your mortal life is done with.
>>97340221I think satan is better
>>97340209This. We have Necromo Nightmare. Give me moar.
>>97340233I'm sure he'll remind you of this moment when you get there. He's a bit of a cunt that way.
>In Battletech Gothic universe, the Golden Unity (Capellan Confederation) has embraced "the inner beast" literally, making use of monsters to reach their new ideals of purity
>>97340217Lizardmen in space is a recurring thing in darker sci-fi comics
>>97340259
Scouring Sands Sortie 1
Guys someone make him stop. He's trying to westernize our serious military thriller trad anime mecha game!
>>97340233you are free to choose damnation. an eternity in the void without the grace of god shielding your soul from the demons out there.we, i choose to be humbly contrite and earnest in my love for my creator who has allowed me this life.why tonight i had a lovely steak dinner that i shared with my adorable rottwieler, who is a perfect good girl.He let me have that. He let me have a neat job i love too.thank heaven for small mercies and all that, after all.
>>97340281scouring sands has carboard terrain standees?fuck! i will have to buy two boxes. god dammit.
>>97340281That terrain looks really goof for papercraft(?) terrain.
What is scouring sands?
>>97340289One box of Alphas Strike and one box of Scouring Sands are enough to play all the Scouring Sands missions.SS comes with a pretty good amount of hills but it also has a single bridge and river system, and you might want two of those for setting up your own scenarios.SS also comes with tokens to represent turrets, conventional infantry, and transports.
>Battletech Gothic Urbanmech and Stone GiantWell fuck, that shit it's huge
>>97340293Yeah the Scouring Sands and Alpha Strike terrain is very good for what it is.>>97340294Scouring Sands is the first “Aces” boxed set for Alpha Strike, meaning a solo/co-op campaign packaged with terrain, an opfor (in this case, second line CJF remnants), and a card system for automating the opfor.Scouring Sands is themed for the Hinterlands or Tamar Rising books (can’t remember exactly which, but both books are about the CJF OZ as abandoned by Malvina). The next Aces set will be themed for Dominion Divided (focusing on the CGB civil war triggered by Alaric rejecting the Rasalhague Dominion joining the IlClan).
>>97340300that's why i'll need two boxes. i want to play terrain dense maps, lots of hills and buildings and shit. i like the challenge of 'hard' maps.plus that really changes the dynamic from gauss and ppc walling on an open field boring.i went out of my way to pick up one of those token and building etc. packs too. since they were selling them separately as well as the full AS box.https://www.amazon.com.au/Catalyst-Game-Labs-BattleTech-Pack-Alpha/dp/B0C3DDHBTH
>>97340309That is a painted pre-production model. The commercially available models will much smaller (I think most if not all Abominations are smaller than Assault ‘Mechs).
>>97340316Yeah just FYI (may not matter to you) but the tokens in that expansion pack are IMO better than the ones that come in the AS boxed set because they have numbers printed on the TMM tokens (the boxed set ones just distinguish between ground, jump, sprint, and stand still). I mean, I prefer the dice but just in case you didn’t know!
>>97340323>commercially available models will much smallerThey really fucked up with no construction rules or Kaiju sized aboms. I dont think anything would have made Gothic "viable:. But CGL isnt really helping themselves.
>>97340309>>97340323And I almost got excited
What if they release a big abomination like that Stone Giant eventually?
I had great luck with my AC/20s this game, I cored two almost pristine mechs by AC/20 to the CT
>>97340356I'd prefer if it was a new abomination with new stats since the Stone Giant already has stats. A Kaiju sized abomination would be buy worthy if they use superheavy rules to stat it. If they were really nuts they'd make an abomination using mobile structure rules and make it mech scale. That'd be prohibitively expensive, but it'd be really awesome.
>>97340384I'm glad you bagged two Wasps anon.
>>97340340>>97340346I quite like Gothic and, with the Abomination ForcePack supposedly en route, I am very happy with it as a thematic side project.
>>97340356They would have to make it a new unit type since the current ones have no provision for being multiple hexes in size.Wouldn't be difficult, we already have big support vehicles and mobile structures, but it would be more work than just throwing up a new set of stats.
>>97340397I do think there's neat stuff in Gothic, but I just wish more energy was spent on putting neat things into the base universe
>>97340415To me, I am more irritated in that regard by the likes of Fox Patrol than Gothic.I don’t have much of an axe to grind against Fox Patrol either. But I dislike it a lot more than Gothic precisely because it is mainline BattleTech.
What's your favorite BA?I'm looking at what to stick on my Fire Moth. Fire Toads seem good for flipping the Jade bird to Infernos, but I wonder if taking cheaper vanilla options and upping skills wouldn't be better.Can anyone tell me the meaningful diiferences between Longinus Cs and Elementals?Finally, how dezgra is it to take a star with a point of elementals on top?
>>97340397I still don't like any of the CGL Firestarters. They always make the cockpit window too big. It needs to be thin and narrow.
Will this pass for SLDF, or have I somehow painted 2nd Crusis Lancers?>Will need to wait for few days for the weather to clear to gloss vanish this and oil wash
>>97340397I don't mean to be that autist about it, but I would probably have gotten a few salvage boxes if not the set if the sculpts weren't all randomly bigger than their regular counterparts. I can kinda deal with units not being relatively accurate between things like IWM, the old plastics and so on, but I strictly do not want a marauder that is the same tonnage by the same manufacturer, but just bigger for no conceivable reason.I could maybe get the gothic marauder and run it as some goofy ass IIC, but I don't really have an option for any of the others. For a product that didn't really excite me otherwise that's the last straw.
>>97340604>Can anyone tell me the meaningful diiferences between Longinus Cs and Elementals?Longinus C's got SRM-4, no Harjel and has to jetison the SRM pack to jump like other IS BA.
>>97340604>Finally, how dezgra is it to take a star with a point of elementals on top?That's just an understrength nova (star of omnis + star of elementals), which could be the simple result of bidding the rest of the elemental points away.
>>97340637I was really admiring this sculpt while painting it. I need to get one of my “main universe” Firestarters into whatever the next project is.>>97340662Yes, looks perfectly fine. Here is my take on SLDF. Gave ‘em whit highlights just look more heroic.>>97340663I just can’t get too miffed about scale when it comes to BT minis. Someone, somewhere will have manufactured and customized a Marauder over the course of centuries to be bigger.
>>97340315I really want to pick this up but I've blown so much on hobbies recently. You ever play AS on hexes? It clears up los disputes but limits terrain options which is a big part of AS's appeal.
>>97340814Same argument I got last time; only the guys who manufactured this particular Marauder are called Catalyst Game Labs and they have no excuse for fucking up the size of their Marauders.They haven't just randomly made any other variant sculpts bigger have they? My only fucking rule for minis is that they look good and look consistent, I'm not weighing them or mathing out their displacement or any other kind of bullshit.I have six fucking urbanmech sculpts in my box between the lance and the LAM box, now I could go and get the gothic one, but as soon as I put them on the table it's going to stick out like a sore thumb like a poorly scaled print, because that's basically what it fucking is.
>>97340814Eh, the Firestarter CGL made just blends in too much with the rest of their sculpts and doesn't lean far enough into the original design details they tried to model onto the new Firestarters. At least I like their Vulcans.
>>97340840I dunno man, I just can’t get this angry about it myself.>>97340849Ah yes I also really like the Vulcan — that one is going in the next project along with the Firestarter.
>>97340824 just use the los cylinders. no one can argue the actual hard rules then.
>>97340824>disputesmy main hobby is playing minis games with my friends and I never have those kinds of disputes
>>97340849Vulcan is pretty cool yeah. I didn't really care for the mech until I had one in my hands. It's really kinda different and neat.
>>97340891Yeah, the only real problem with any vagueness in LOS is in pickup games where you want to avoid arguments, and warhammer has bent itself into pretzels trying true line of sight but also unambiguous rulings. You can instead just be friendly and cordial and sometimes give the benefit of the doubt and you can skip three pages of clarifications and edge cases.
I dislike the gothic marauder's arms. Something about how they're angled bugs me.
>>97340905One thing I do is just kinda consensus-build with others like “I want to move this guy so XYZ doesn’t have LOS to him, so what about here?” that sort of thing
>>97340927While I was painting the Firestarter posted above, I kind of noticed that the segmented limb armor kind of looks “noodly” like a dryer hose kinda, could that be what’s bugging you?
>>97340927I think it's a good base for the Black Marauder
The closest thing to a black powder rifle/pistol would be makeshift rifles and makeshift pistols, right? They're single shot, low tech, available throughout time. Maybe the elephant gun as well?
>>97340927The cape looks dumb
>>97340971What ya doin with all them smoothbore muskets?
>>97340936Yeah the noodley bits are odd but is consistent with other gothic redesigns. The arms on the classic marauders are angled out and slightly forward but the gothic marauder is only angled out. That and it looks like they didn't scale up it's arms with the rest of its body.>>97340951Solaris fighters with a villain vibe.
>>97340972It would be dumb if it was a cape but it’s actually a banner hanging from the Paul Ron, there is another on the opposite side>>97340981I think they only scaled it up at all to realize the level of granularity necessary for the gothic gribblies; it would likely have looked worse overall if the weapon pods on its arms got beefed up as muchmy problem with the weapon pods is that they don’t look very gothic (missed opportunity to have an arched window shape on the end)
No one can stop me from putting a big titty pilot into a cramped as hell light mech.
What is the lowest tech mech you can produce?Primitive StructurePrimitive cockpitPrimitive gyro?I.C.E engine?Commercial armorlight/heavy rifleprimitive rocket launchersThe worst of it is the myomer, gyro, and neuro helmet/electronics? So I need a chip fab and what else?
>>97341020Her big tiddies might. Stingers are cramped bro.
>>97341026She's going in a Cossack which I calculated to have an equivalent cockpit sized. I calculated it. With science.
>>97340979What must be done
big titty girl can relax in the hot tub in my king crab bachelor pad
>>97341034>not even a cramped cockpit
>>97341021Primitive Gyro is a thing yeah. You can pretty much cheap out on everything but the Myomer. There's no getting around that. Primitive Fusion Engine is also an alternative to ICE, those also existed.
>>97341059I couldn't find an option for a primitive gyro in MML. I am going with I.C.E because that is a much easier product to manufacture than even a primitive SFE. I just need electronics fabs and whatever the fuck you do to make myomer. Vertical integration is a hell of a drug.
>>97341056she needs a ‘Mech whose quirk matches her own
best design quirks for girlfriends>bad reputation>distracting>easy to maintain>gas hog
>>97339082She works for Comstar, so basically both.
>>97341020Big tiddied mechwarriors are old and busted, it's all about hikikomori girlfailure protomech pilots now.
>>97341140>"It's not my fault my Wolverine 6M overheated!"
>>97341065Costs more than a Phoenix Hawk K or Vindicator. Shittier than both. Shouldn't a shit box made from easier to produce equipment cost less?
You guys are so close to fantasizing about Shinji
Evangelion is just a documentary of the clan sibko assigned to test mech prototypes. EI control. Biological myomer, chasis and internal structures. Now the uh test drones used in these evaluations are the real wierdness.
>>97338321>They make ASF with AC20's you know. Do you just hate your pilots?Do you not hate your fly boys?https://youtu.be/frVFiriQOhc?si=wXDAaxQm1o76X0JsThis sums up my experience with them....
>>97341165Shinji is too busy promoting mobile games.
>>97340891I'm talking childhood friends. There will be disputes lol
>>97338881Yes it is.>>97340253I don't see any difference between it and your average Liao?On a side note was anyone able to model rip the ASF assets from MW5 Clans? I don't fancy downloading over 500 GB to try and do it myself.
>>97340840>but as soon as I put them on the table it's going to stick out like a sore thumb like a poorly scaled printNobody is going to care apart from yourself.
>>97341236Yes.
>>97337672By playing with combined arms.Its a decent BA carrier, also like others already said: most load outs are basically Omni (other is mediums, mostly phoenix hawks). Especially the B variant. Which also plays nice in c3 forces. The A is one of the cheapest ways to get an lb10 on a scout lance if your opponent is a VTOL addict (Omni Clint). The C is a weird whitworth, the D is an Omni vindicator, etc
>>97341182There a mecha protagonist in Japan who ISN'T right now?
>>97341285This. You run in, you drop a squad of IS Standards in the trees and you run the fuck away, peppering the bastards with twin LRM-10's because you're using the configuration that turns you into a Whitworth.
>>97341318Why would you use the LRM variant instead of the twin LL, twin ERLL, pulseboat, or AC carrier?
>>97341065You gotta go lighter and be smarter if you wanna save your bills. Commercial might sound like a great investment until you realize you'll be checking for criticals any time its attacked and that's going to send your ICE engine to the moon. Strictly speaking I think Heavy Industrial is your bet.ICE mechs can go under 10 heatsinks as well. Cut back a little and you'll be in better shape for tonnage.I'm not really serious about building militiamechs, but mounting a medium rifle is going to be much more viable and efficient I think I don't think I've made any build errors here, but eh.
>>97341353It's functionally identical. I would like to know the cost in cbills. I did not know you can have less than 10 heatsinks that would help a lot I expect. Whats the difference in commercial and heavy industrial as far as what its made of? I thought tech manual said commercial is just un hardened steel and heavy industrial i like a standard armor analog. Which means like diamond weave and other advanced manufacturing.
Currently reading Bloodname. I'm in the part where Aiden/Jorge reluctantly reunited with Joanna and Nomad. In that portion of the story, Aidan/Jorge was piloting a Summoner/Thor. At that time, he was acting out as a Freebirth (hence why I used "Aidan"/"Jorge"). I get that he isn't old enough to be in a solahma unit but how was a "Freebirth" like Aidan/Jorge allowed an OmniMech like the Summoner/Thor? I mean, considering the Jade Phoenix trilogy is centered on Clan Jade Falcon, wouldn't they be very harsh on what Freebirth MechWarriors are allowed to pilot?
>>97341386He is also a Star Commander which would afford him some leeway in mech choices
>>97341376I didn't save the sheet, but I remember it being in the middle of 1.6 MCBills, making it just a bit pricier than a Locust.Commercial is BAR 5, but armor is already a rather cheap part of the Mech. If you really need to save on the machining, Industrial Armor itself is Tech C same as an ICE engine and you'll need the same rating for a cockpit (even if you skip the advanced FCS).Here, if I cut the fat more. As you can see, the gyro remains the limiting factor.
>>97341427And returning to the page where it is mentioned both he and Horse had stuck with the Summoner/Thor after their Trial of Position, how was the latter allowed to use a Summoner/Thor too? I guess when it comes to telling Freebirth MechWarriors what they are allowed to pilot it depends on the Clan and the Jade Falcons just happened to be one Clan to grant that privilege to Freebirth MechWarriors?
>>97341437>Industrial Armor itself is Tech C same as an ICE engineGood enough for me.>As you can see, the gyro remains the limiting factor.Thats ok. I knew there would be a hard limit on how unga bunga you could get a mech. Thanks for your help.
>>97341437Oh wait, I just paid a little more attention. Thats an Industrial mech not a primitive. I'm not opposed to this its just not what I thought you were showing me.
>>97341386Also, the Summoner is 140 years old by the time Aidan was born and is certainly /ubiquitous/ in the CJF touman.
>>97341492Hmm. Options didn't seem to crop up in megameklab unless I opened an existing primitive. Anyways, doing it up in primitive in megamek doesn't seem to reduce the tech rating of the gyro.Basically unless you are playing actually AtoW there's no reason to employ the primitive unit typing, even at the beginning of the 31st century there are more refined ways to create garbage.
>>97341285Battle armor isn't combined arms because power armor is effectively mecha as well, and they're designed specifically to synergize with mecha. Combined arms is when someone insists on fucking up the initiative system with a bunch of cheapo chaff that bloats the game because they really really wish battletech was a normal wargame.
>>97341552>and they're designed specifically to synergize with mechaHeavy and assault BA definitely aren't.
>>97341552Or you could just use one of the nine different fucking initiative optional rules that fix that.
>>97341645But then he couldn't bitch about combined arms.
>>97341059>>97341065Primitive gyros are essentially only a name as they're identical to a standard one, primitive mechs just run bigger engines and thus bigger gyros. The distinction seems to have been added just to specify that you calculate based off the modified engine rating for a primitive mech and not the base rating.
>>97341386Because no other Clan units existed when the Thurston novels were written you illiterate retard. EVERYONE piloted Clan Omnis, even freebirths, because the second line units had literally not been created IRL yet. This is a 40 year old game, and it took IRL time to actually develop a lot of the Mechs you zoomers take for granted existing now.
>>97341156The industry needs to be there to support. The only time you'd even see military industries support primitive tech is during the Jihad when factories switched to building retro tech mechs just to supply armies faster and faster.Outside of that, it's likely a specialty thing you need to shell out a lot of cash for.
>>97341709Woah. I only got into this franchise because of COVID and truth be told, I spoiled myself a great deal BEFORE reading the novels.I even opted for chronological order but avoided most of the short stories. Excuse me for not knowing EVERYTHING.
>>97341347Because ERLL can fucking die in a fire (usually of it's own making) and the LRM variant has better range than the LL and a higher damage ceiling than the AC (still good though!) and critically I can put special ammo into the LRM version.
>>97341709This is a good point. They should decanonize and retcon all of the FASA era novels to account for the difference in unit selection between the 1980s and '90s and today. Grogs had their fun, but the novel line needs to be updated to take into account the reality of Battletech in the modern day, plus some small changes in the way characters are presented to make the setting less problematic. Like there's no reason Galen Cox can't be black; more minority representation shouldn't be a problem in a post-racial setting, and it reflects the authors biases that he isn't. Likewise, a character like Jeremiah Rose could easily be a trans woman and nothing about her story would change. I'd love to see Bryan Young's take on a complete rewrite of the novels. He seems to have a good grasp on the pulse of the target audience, and isn't bound by the game's "traditions".
>>97341735>Excuse me for not knowing EVERYTHING.No. Learn. Then post.
>>97341753>A Modest Proposal
