Kithkin edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-november-10-2025>NewsThe 2025 Magic Con and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>97332220>TQWhat is your favorite Magic exclusive creature type?
>tqHairless Vedalken
>>97340698>TQHuman
>>97340698shadowmoor kithkin
>>97340698>TQAre Hellions a MtG creation?
>>97340768Yes. The closest non-mtg comparison is the mongolian death worm.
>TQ
>>97340698>TQeither Moonfolk or Vedalken
>>97340846forgot pic
Say something nice about my popper deck.TQ:Viashi...erm I mean um hmmm
>>97340698That art is actually kind of GOATed. W Margaret Organ-Kean. Im shocked wotc didn't redact that for cultural appropriation or something
>>97341057hard evidence is a cute cardotherwise i think its just kinda boring
>Hey we returning to lorwyn, we need to spicy things up>How about making kithkins with long ass necks>Tell me more!
>lorwyn elves are no longer racists who will kill you for being ugly>sultai are no longer a dictatorship that turns people into undead to enslave themwhat is with the sanitization of their planes's more unsavory aspects
>>97341151i dunno about sultai but at least the lorwyn elves have a good lore reason for changing
>>97341151>lorwyn elves are no longer racists who will kill you for being uglymost of them weren't in the original novels. But they didn't care about the ones that were mistreating and being racists towards other people.Even Nath who they portrait as a big bad racist was tolerant enough with Brion and his misshapen retarded brother as to send them away within a time limit before he ordered his squad of elves to kill the two giants.Also Nath knew there were goblins living in the forest but didn't care about it until the goblins started to attack the kithkin that lived there under the protection of the elves (after that he went full genocide mode on the borggats).Even elf caste is misunderstood be people who haven't read the books (wotc employees). Elves fit into a caster by a combination of their looks + their qualities. For exemple one of the perfects was an 8/10 but because she could sing really well she was a perfect. One of the male elfs was a 7/10 but because he had god tier tree manipulation magic he was a perfect. Og Maralen who looked like pic was not a perfect because she lacked any memorable skill.
>>97341151Holy shit Raimi
Why they fire Glenn Jones who was behind the LOTR set?
>>97341177Why must MtG be everyone holding hands singing kumbaya around a campfire now?
>>97341151I don't fucking know dude, when wotc made a statement that no plane ever in mtg has homophobia or racism, it pretty much tells that they are too afraid to write anything controversial so someone doesn't get upset. It's so fucking gay
>>97341151>lorwyn elves are no longer racists who will kill you for being uglyThey literally are. What are you talking about? The whole plot is about them wanting to genocide the plane again. They are simply no longer in a position of power where they can pull their shit with impunity.
>Stixhaven faggots being in Lorwyn was supposed to be a refrence to OG Lorwyn planeswalker cycle
dumb frogposter
>>97341297>worst part of nu lorwyn is a reference to the worst part of og lorwyndamn
>>97341177It would have been truly subversive to have the elves find out that for years and years one of their perfects was actually a changeling who was really good at his craft the whole time. They then of course realize all races can be beautiful and abandon their racist ways.
>>97341370...the changelings that are blue/transparent and have big obvious yellow eyes?
>>97340698>TQProbably the Myr, mostly because they remind me of pit droids. Eldrazi are a close second.
>affinity>convoke>DFCs>hogwarts drop outs>no racism>only one (1) noggle>no "figure of ~" cycle>an oko pw, again>art direction with no relation to the original lorwyn
So is WotC currently working on sets for 2027 or for this year? How does card art and game design work here? So if I were to expect actual changes to art design going back to being sexy women, it'd be 2028 if they're already making cards for 2027?
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>>97341401I think they're roughly always 2 years ahead of our schedule, so they should be starting work on the first set of 2028
>>97341396If they actually made a Harry Potter UB, how insane would the devs, players, etc be?
>>97341396You missed>no druegar>changing the noggle colors>gay bait oko
>>97341401They're working on the 2028 or 2029 lineup most likely
>>97341436>gay bait okohuh?
>>97341396>no "figure of ~" cyclePseudolevelers have been done to death and there's nothing exciting about them anymore
>>97341425A significant fraction of WotC would probably go on strike against Hasbro if they ever even push the idea to them.
>>97341444when I snap my fingers, you'll forget you were ever gay*snap*
>>97341401Depends on which set, UB sets have more development time to clear things by licensor, so>2-3 years for UW>4-5 years for UBAnd all of this is if you make the point clear, and they start to change things AT THIS MOMENT. If not you have to bypass>californian company values>DEI money>'progressive' ideas inheritant to American developers>easy choices to make line go up for company stock
>>97341453but I was never gay?
>>97341455So I'm gonna be 30 in 2030 before MtG goes back to the way it was or even witness them shutting their doors?
>>97341444Comparing old Oko to the laid out, dick outline, gay faced one we have for this set.Oko is still gay, but he is now just a sex object for Romantasy heada.
>>97341457That's not what Oko told me.
>>97341459In my honest, likely shit opinion, for WotC to need to change course they will need one or multiple things from the list to change.>great economic downturn>bought out by private interests and directed to do so>large enought competitor entering the market>vast change in public opinion to what is deemed appropriateSadly, as they said "Enjoy Magic your own way" is correct. Pick singles and a format you like and just play with those. Im playing pauper and premodern once a nonth. Instead of buying packs I just save money and comission friends to do alters to cards I want. And I hope in 15 years when my kids are old enough Magic will be in a better placr.
>>97341252>>97341260Like Obi wan once said>Only a Sith deals in absolutes Or on Tolkien thoughts:>Tolkien stated in his Letters that although he did not think "Absolute Evil" could exist as it would be "Zero". Sauron represents as near an approach to the wholly evil will as is possible ", Sauron had started out with good intentions buy was corrupted by power."The virtue signalers that work at wotc when they started they thought of doing good but power corrupted them and they became evil, dealing with everything in extremes without middle ground opinions.They are also mostly uneducated and uncreative while working on things that require those 2 qualities. >>97341401>>97341439Dragon Age failed (trans) director got contracted after the game was out (1.5 year ago(?)) and they worked on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle set...So about 2 years in advance.
>>97341487>and premodernPREMODERN MENTIONED!!BRAZIL LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>97341508It doesn't really work anymore.
>>97341508Here is your (You), have fun playing other formats. Those 2 bring me enough pleasure, and are cheaper on MTGO.
>>97341459>in 2030 before MtG goes back to the way it wasLolLmaoBuddy this train only moves in one direction. It does not "go back".
>>97340698>every mechanic is just an old mechanic with a trivial nuance>it's just Kicker anywayFor fuck's sake, just choose a bunch of shit to evergreen instead of paying retards to pitch retard ideas for more WORDS WORDS WORDS on cards.
Pigs eat slop.
>>97341487>playing a format built on hateBIGOT!
Ayo I be holdin' a Kithkin
>>97341617tbqh i do wonder what goes through these people creature type head's when they post absolute vomit like that
>>97341297Oh shit I didn't notice, they could not possibly sink so low could they? Tell me you're joking, tell me it's just a bad taste prank...You're not serious are you?Harry potter raping OG lorwyn?Hogwarts dropouts? Seriously?
>>97341613How we save this game?
>>97341613>Crashing out this hard over seeing art of one black person online.
>>97340698Why do kithkin have such long necks in this set?
>>97341634We need a radical solution... a final solution...
>>97341617Didn't know that by drafting my premodern proxied cube I was literally Voldemort and I was literally gassing the kikes while doing so.NOW I WILL HAVE 6 MILLION TIMES THE FUN I HAD BEFORE!
>>97341648We stop playing?
This set is overhyped as fuck. People are treating lorewyn like the second coming of christ. There's some decent things in it, but holy fuck the tribe support is boring as hell. It's fucking retarded that they decide to push elves and goblins for the 14297th time while Giants, Treefolk, Scarcrows, and Fairies sit in the motel cuck chair, and Kithkin are boiled down to generic go wide GW archetype#316. Also why are half the fucking legendries Harry Potter OCs??
>>97341674How is overhyping this? Since they showed Strixhaven rejects all I read everywhere is how boring, underpowered and uninspired this set is…
>>97341613>a story that has BITE>WOW LOOK EVERYONE IS SOME FLAVOR OF GAY HOMO LEGBETS TRANS BINARY WOW WHAT A BITEi want to bite but there is only formless slop
>>97341617I thought premodern existed way before the Commanderification/UBification/slopification of the game.
>>97341674Because people are basically using this set to weaponize it against UB slop and pretend that it's the greatest thing ever to convince wotc to do more in-universe sets. Honestly, deserved, but objectively speaking this set is really mid and I don't see more than 10 cards being played in standard.
>>97341674This set is slop, and only funko pop collectors have a high opinion of it.
>>97341674>It's fucking retarded that they decide to push elves and goblins for the 14297th time while Giants, Treefolk, Scarcrows, and Fairies sit in the motel cuck chair, and Kithkin are boiled down to generic go wide GW archetype#316That's gonna happen when you have to cram everything into one set. Blocks are bad for some reason btw, thanks Hasbro!
>>97341708can you name those 10 anons?
>>97341722Me.
>>97341720We ditched blocks because after whizzasbro tried to shove down our throats ixalan which sucked massive balls except for the nazi incel vampires which weren't even good but by juxtaposition with the rest of the garbage they looked acceptable instead of taking responsibility for their actions whizzasbro blamed blocks after we had to endure an entire year of ixaslop and people were puking in the streets because of it.Ixalan was so bad it killed the block formula and instead of learning from their mistakes they quadrupled down and made a set that sucked worse than the previous one, they will justify themselves with "LOLS! IMAGINE A YEAR OF IKORIA HEHE, be thankful goy".
>>97341674>This set is overhyped as fuck. People are treating lorewyn like the second coming of christ.People want an in-universe set that looks like real Magic to do well. They're desperate to prove to Wizards that this is what people want instead of more Aetherdrifts and Spidermans, even if the set is objectively not very good. This is a good thing.
>>97341744>>97341722Also, me.
>>97341757I would take and i mean this seriously a whole year of the worst plane imaginable, seriously 4 fucking sets of whatever you think is the worst like Aetherdrift, Capenna, Murders at Karlov Manor ANYTHING, over pic related.That Nosewater and Fagsbro corpos have the guts to tell people "Blocks were not financially reliable" and then also do this is not a joke, at this point is literally an insult to the whole fanbase of Magic.
>>97341757Ixalan was kino though.
>>97341674Im genuinely pissed that they ditched scarecrows almost entirely and the new Reaper King card has absolutely nothing to do with scarecrows
>>97341806Slop is for pigs, pigs eat slop.
>>97341809Scarecrows are sexist.
>>97341814I'm sorry if you're a joyless nigger but I enjoy the aztecs with dinosaurs aesthetics and that they're all spread across a bunch of groups with complex relations to one another instead of a simply blanket "native south american civilization", I like that there are pirates existing in a historical context where they make sense, and I like the vampire conquistadors even if they're on the nose.
>>97341799why we got 4 ub sets and 3 uw sets? we need a whole year of only ub sets that would peak magic.
>>97341832Unfortunately, no one likes powerlevel speedbump sets. This is why this game is doomed to die by powercreep.
>>97341674>Also why are half the fucking legendries Harry Potter OCs??Because omenpaths were a mistake. Literally name 1(one) plane or set where the story was enhanced by the presence of a character or characters from a different plane isekai-ing there. You can't.
>>97341799>>97341834Even if we got 7 uw sets it's too much crammed into a year, that's the real problem. There's no way they playtest all of that shit even within the yearly releases, they are just rubber stamping whatever to sell the next Commander precon and next set of Collector Boosters with ultra rare serialized cum foil chase cards.
>>97341814Why are you like this?
>>97341859War of the Spark
7 (Seven, nana, sept, siete) products a year is pure madness.
>>97341708>Because people are basically using this set to weaponize it against UB slop and pretend that it's the greatest thing ever to convince wotc to do more in-universe setsYeah I think this pretty much nails it. I think it's fucking pathetic that people want to grovel and pretend NU-Lorwyn is a good set that everyone should buy just to stick it to wotc
>>97341974And they're all Standard legal and all rotating in three fucking years. Standard is going to be bigger than some non-rotating formats were at some point.
>>97341974I will engage only with three, maybe four.
>>97341639Go back to tiktok, underaged zoomnigger
>>97341799
>>97342068Ayo whuddafuck nigga ass whiteboi say dat to my face irl nigga
>>97341859I enjoyed a lot of the planeswalker focused stories.However, Omenpaths lack the sauce. Genuinely, I cannot think of anything good on the story front that has come out of omenpaths.
Reminder: everything that sucks about Magic directly ties back to EDH becoming the primary of the game. If you play EDH, you are part of the problem.EDH is for slop for pigs. You're not a pig, are you?
>>97342097Duskmourne were not bad.
>>97342124Everything that sucks about Magic makes EDH great.
>>97342124Unfortunately, the pigs have bred in great numbers and are now the main clientele of the restaurant. Unless we somehow pull more money than all the pigs combined, this will never turn around. The sensible thing of course, would be to move to another restaurant.
