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Previous: >>97374745

Lorwyn Eclipsed Was 4 Years Ago edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Now that Lorwyn hype has come and gone, what are your thoughts on the turts?
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>>97383956
IS THAT UNAPPROVED UB?!?!? AIIIEEEE HELP ME SCRIMBLO BRIMBLO! ONLY QUENCHY UB LIKE AVATAR
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>>97383956
>TQ
I hate the new Strixhaven League
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>>97383956
>TQ
No thoughts on cards my playgroup won't run. Enjoy your slop deluge, I guess.
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>TQ

No monks. No buy.
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>>97384000
>he's a monk chad
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>>97384000
Tarkir was, what, four set releases ago?
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>>97383956
I have far more interest in TMNT than lorwyn, which was honestly a disappointment
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97383956

Turtles are the most embarrassing thing in Magic until the next shitty horrible lore-ruining set that comes out a month later.

Imagine even thinking about playing Standard when there aren't even any real Magic cards in it, just fucking kids' cartoons. Videogames if you're lucky.
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Good evening I love MTG
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>>97384024
while i'm no fan of tmnt tell me again why i should love UW
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If you play this card I'm going to eat it in front of you
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remind me again is this a secret layer or a whole damn set? I don't think I can take 200 cards worth of turtles
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>>97383956
>what are your thoughts on the turts?
Black April is pretty cute. Not worth using though. Haven't seen anything else that is incredible from it.
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>>97384029
Just realized that sneak is commander ninjutsu fixed
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>>97384024
>kids cartoons bad unless it's my silly one with guys hyper ventilating over some kid, and people making stupid songs about tunnels
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>>97384028
UW reprints are good because they take mechanically unique UB cards and make them more broadly available.
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>make mono red burn pile to end games quickly near the end of the night
>works better than expected and I really enjoy playing it
How do I make it more obnoxious? I'll be getting Ojer Axonil
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>>97384054
Probably because it is a large IP.
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>>97384029
It's okay bro I'm just playing her. Hope you don't have the same color sleeves as the rest of the table!
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>>97383956
I am so looking forward to a month of faggots screaming and crying both here and on youtube shit
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>>97384071
>still no argument why i should love wotc's style guide
UWfags keep losing, UBgods keep winning
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>>97384054
There's non-turtles in the set, I'll be honest if this didn't have the TMNT symbol I think no one would care
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>>97384092
That UB card looks like absolute ass, though.
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>>97384085
I will rip this card if it ever touched the table
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>>97384000
I'm still tilted she wasn't a monk in Jeskai colors with prowess. What a fucking bungle.
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>>97384102
>that UB card
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>>97384108
I will literally justifiably kill you in self defense.
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>>97384095
Someone in wotc really like the infinite lifedrain
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>>97384102
That's why you should play the real card
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>>97384092
That's what you consider to be UB"gods" winning?
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>>97384123
both UB and UW are real, the latter just happens to be the shitty, slowly dying part
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>>97384072
> spiderman unexpected windfall
Im *this* close to portrating you as a basedjak
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>>97384114
Yes. The deity Torm is from Forgotten Realms, not the Magic setting.
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>>97384092
>>97384123
these are both kinda ass looking
at least the paladin lady has big boobs under her armor
here's a better UW card
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>>97384133
>doesn't include UB
and thank god for that
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>>97384137
cope, seethe, mald, and quench
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>>97383956
>go to prerelease expecting in universe kino
>you're still given UB slop
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>>97384149
Yes. There are zero cards named "Rashel, Fist of Torm" that don't include Universes Beyond in their art. Meaning that the art of Rashel, Fist of Torm DOES include Universes Beyond. You goddamn mongoloid.
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>>97384144
yes and D&D is owned by wotc, which means they can put in as many xim/xers as they want
only UB can have anything based, even its fags are based
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>>97384162
>D&D is owned by wotc
Still Universes Beyond.
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>>97384160
>>97384162
still waiting for that essay on why we should love the magic story btw, can't wait
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>>97384169
i never said that UB was perfect, ofc there are some bad things in it
but UB is far better than anything UW can ever put out which 100% all shit and no amount of denial from (You) will change that
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>>97384159
Who are you quoting you absolute schizo
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>>97384162
>gay friend shows me his new deck the other day
>its Dion mono white
>oh nice man, you like the character or?
>nah it just has good Synergy with Knights and Flying, seems cool.
>um, hey, you realize Dion is gay yeah?
>he look dead face at me
>you serious?
>yeah, his gay.
he probably went home after our games that night and fapped to some Dion doujins or something. i dunno what homos do in their time at night.
based deck though.
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So this faggot is really gonna maintain a campaign is misusing “UW” for literal months huh?
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>>97384171
Nah, I think I'll wait until you provide a single reason to love Universes Beyond, which you never have.
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>>97384190
i don't have to convince you to love UB, wotc pumping out UB down your throat while you can't do anything about it is more than enough proof
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>>97384189
>did you just misgender UW?!
enjoy your solo crusade
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>trying to play 3 color deck with a budget landbase
>it's ASS
if your deck doesn't tutor lands, you will have to mulligan perfectly fine hands just because you got unlucky with the colors
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>>97384190
Cooler worlds, characters with actual stories and personality, interesting mechanics, it brings new players to the game, and it increases the variety of aesthetics across the game as a whole.
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This is very much playable
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>>97384137
I think the source material/bonus sheets are cool and there's some neat reprints, sue me but its a crime they didn't upscale the avatar ones
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>>97384205
>if your deck doesn't tutor lands
evolving wilds
terramorphic expanse
ash barrens
myriad landscape
the ash barrens but its on the field and for your exact 3 colored lands
the landscapes from mh3
the renamed versions (shrine terrace for example)
Evolving Wilds but you gain 1 life after land
if all else fails, use a chromatic lantern
but yeah, not having fetches and shocks and triomes and the best mana base for every deck if your not a richfag or dont just proxy it does suck balls.
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>>97384205
you can build a consistent 3 color manabase on a budget, it will just have a lot of taplands in it
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>>97384223
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>>97384189
Until he finds something else to endless shitpost about once people stop taking the b8.
Before this it was spamming tifa being the "GREEN QUEEN!!! xd!!!XD!!!"
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>>97384171
Magic sets should have Magic lore. Not this other dumb shit. It's that simple. Agree or kill yourself.

It doesn't even matter if magic lore is """""good"""""" by the way. It doesn't matter if you like it, or I or anybody. That is irrelevant. Even if it's the worst shit in the world it still doesn't change the fact that Magic sets must have Magic lore and not anything else. EVER. Things in the universe must all be with their own things and never with different things.
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>>97384212
the UNF sets are just so soulful. its a shame they cant make an UNF set but try make it commander legal.
its like, when you make interesting or wacky card ideas like alpha and beta did, its suddenly cant be legal for any play unless with friends.
sadge,
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>>97384241
>you just HAVE to accept UW ok?!
kekw
>Agree or kill yourself.
I disagree and mtg is killing itself with its own slop that's why it's going for far better slop, that's just facts
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>>97384241
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>>97384263
the OG UB kino, I kneel
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>teenage ninja turtles
loved it as a kid, dont care for it in magic
>marvel super heroes
complete cringe. fucking aids shit.
>the hobbit
back to back UB sets? FUCKING daring arent we wizards. at least its based Hobbits/LOTR. Reprint the one ring as a special guest.
>star trek
meh/dont care.

call me when they do UB for Star Wars, Warcraft or From Software.
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>
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>>97384225
You don't understand, my budget 3 color deck CAN'T have a tapped land in it! Are you CRAZY??
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>>97384151
>quench
https://moxfield.com/decks/rV-tKrno0U2axXw2YgHP9w
Speaking of, should I build Mr. Quenchy himself in paper?
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>>97384263
what were they thinking
almost killed the company before it started.
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post no longer relevant mechanics
>lander token
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>>97384279
The one ring doesn't even need to be a special guest. It's IN The Hobbit. Though I would not put it past wizards to make an entirely different, weaker card to represent it cause they're greedy shitheads.
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>>97384305
Oil counter.
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>>97384307
i said it has to be special guest because anon... they wont make the one ring standard legal. cmon now.
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>>97384314
Since when did they care about the balance of standard?
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>Cards in my deck have gone over 40 dollars, which means I need to take them out
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>>97384305
bands with other legends
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I love UB
I love UW
I love playing commander
I love edh
I love playing at the LGS
I love playing with my bros
I love making decks
I love buying cards
I have mixed opinions on MaRo, Gavin and the bracket system
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Where's the cute girl in UW?
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>>97384336
>he plays cards over $5
lol
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>>97384378
how about sami the cute (muscular, masculine) gxrl
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>“These kids today with their serialized collector cards and their newfangled UB collaborations with waifu bait. Thirty five ravnica art lands and sixty five xhe/xhers. Now that’s real Magic.”
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My theory is wotc did this on purpose trying to increase hype for the TMNT set they know is tracking to flop. It's backfiring though because people at lorwyn prerelease just want Lorwyn cards
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>>97384378
>UBpiggy is an overt pedophile AGAIN
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>>97384403
I would be pretty mad. At Edge of Eternities pre release my promo was Breeding Pools. Only worth like €8 but it felt that extra bit special
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> literally everything wotc does is a conspiracy
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>>97384403
you know I'd be more keen to believe it if it wasnt the fact they've bungled multiple SLDs before in the same way
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>>97384423
>corporations are always honest with me!!!
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>>97384416
>the UWfag is uncomfortable
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>>97384427
>they pushed Lorwyn back to release another UB set
>they revealed cards from UB sets 6 months away rather than reveal Lorwyn cards
>they lied about UB only being 50% of sets
You’d have to be a fucking idiot to think this is all just hapless mistakes
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>>97384403
>Hey, didn't I tell the boys down at the warehouse to ship all the prerelease?
>They did boss
>Bullshit, its right here
>Uh...
>Frantically punches tablet
>We sent the TMNT prerelease out by mistake
Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do, and honestly in more likely.
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>>97384427
>>97384403
tarkir had booster boxes missing rares
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>>97384403
are people excited about the lorwyn cards?
I know some are supposed to be really strong, but outside of that the set looks pretty bland, at least to my uber-casual eyes there isn't much that sticks out as fun or interesting.
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>>97384403
So what you're saying people were getting Turtle cards in Lorwyn prerelease? LMAO what a shitshow
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>>97384436
Yeah anon someone’s finger just slipped and somehow packaged singles for a set not due to come out for like 4 months into a completely different box
And the fact that WotC has repeatedly favored UB over in-universe sets in other ways is also complete coincidence

Youre so naive
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>>97384436
It's not malice- WotC thinks we're all hyped for turtles and that this would build word of mouth hype for it.
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>>97384448
>All of the absolute idiot moves wizards has made in the last few years
>Not in line shipping out the wrong product.
Nah, you just want there to be some kind if conspiracy when there isn't one.
Thankfully, unlike you, I'm not schizophrenic.
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The well is drying out
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>>97384442
It had a lot of hype but the set is weak and hype died upon spoiler reveal+ the LGBTQ+ nu-Jacestice league squad who are the focus of this set and the upcoming nu-Strixhaven.
>UB slop is gay
>UW is gay
>the Hobbit is pure only hope, and that's UB too and going to be full of gay and Trans dwarfs
>Reality Fracture is focused around Niko Aris and the LGBTQ strixhaven squad
It's unironically over
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>>97384451
It's not a 'conspiracy' dumbdumb, it's basic marketing.
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It seems we need another japanese franchise UB
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>>97384458
how can the hobbit be hopeful when they already did black elves and gondorians in the first LOTR set?
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i just want to go back to Duskmourn if we're gonna have all these modern day and scifi-esque sets at least let me get some more stuff for enchantress
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>>97384470
asian IP > westoid IP
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>>97384451
>no see I’m actually smarter than you because I don’t understand behavior other than what people tell me their intentions are
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>>97384483
why are you getting so heated about it? its zero sum. either they look retarded for mispackaging cards or they are retarded for thinking some bulk rares would drive up hype.
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>>97383956
>TQ
I don't really care about the Turtles, my full attention is focused on Doran here.
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>>97384483
Did wotc tell you their intentions?
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>>97384403
Don't they do this with every set though? They did it with Lorwyn as well with the precon commanders.
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>>97384092
behold the single hottest UW card printed in years
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>>97384515
is this the space lesbian's waifu?
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>>97384515
I raise
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>>97384519
while i do love me a corpse she just isn't monstrous enough
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>>97384526
but she is into bondage.
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>>97384471
I can't imagine what they could do to screw up the Hobbit
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>a full two months of people whining that the wrong IP is on a card
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>>97384072
Dragons approach and thrumming stone

>>97384171
Where do you even find the story for mtg?
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>>97384537
they'll fuck it up by not making up for the Lotr mistake of not making a Stoya Shelob card
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>>97384423
It's not a conspiracy, it's just a lame attempt at hype marketing. Think of it like the end credits scenes in Marvel movies, effectively making each movie nothing but an advertisement for the next one. I bet they also hope to drive up prerelease attendance, thinking players will show up just because they hope for an 'accidental' turtle pack. This is the kind of stupid ideas they teach in all marketing classes now, which is why I'm skeptical that it's accidental
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>>97384537
by making a 300 page book a set with more cards than the book had pages
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>>97384538
UB is LITERALLY killing magic the gathering!
No, I haven't bought a single card from a UW card for the past 3 years, why are you asking?
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>>97384537
it's going to be absolute dreck just like peter jackson's hobbit movies
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>>97384572
UB good
Unless I see anything I consider modern (even if it isn't modern and I am just a history-let)
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>>97384564
Ive never heard that, and its not done in literally any other card game and wotc has fucked up packing plenty in the past.
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>>97384423
No you don't understand wotc are Machiavellian genius 4dchess masters who know how to sink their own brand and move everyone over to UB but they also somehow don't know how to make their own successful brand and would prefer to split profits with other corporations instead of just making all the money for themselves with their own IPs!
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>>97384589
They're all fuck ups, especially gavin, who is both an idiot and a lair. Except when he said that maybe primetime will be unbanned, which actually means it ABSOLUTELY will be unbanned. 2 more weeks, wait for the official announcement, trust the plan.
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They really wait for Sheldon to kick the bucket before raping the format
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why would they print this?
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This guy is pretty cool
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>>97384619
Why not? Im not wowed by it but its at least a bit different than usual. the "do a thing draw a card" anon wont have anything to say.
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What do we think Dino bros?
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>>97384619
>Orzhov
This feels real weird for Ninjas.

>>97384622
>TMNT has demon wizards
I was not aware

>>97384629
TOM CRUISE SLD?!?
This kind of reminds me of Night of the Doctor in effect
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>>97384629
This is pretty shite
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>>97384646
>That card name
No clue why but it is making me laugh hard
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>>97384564
>This is the kind of stupid ideas they teach in all marketing classes now
Do you have a marketing degree
Its objectively retarded to give people the wrong cards. Its confusing. Its annoying to people who came out for LORWYN. It plausibly a legal liability due to false advertising. Someone would have to be completely brain rotted to think that giving out cards ahead of time will increase hype. It just makes wotc look incompetent, which we already know they are.
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>>97384656
>"TMNT isn't fantasy enough!"
>Business demons in suits like Capenna
>literal fucking demon wizards
>ninjas
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I'm actually surprised that the anon that gets upset when you post UB spoilers didn't show up yet
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>>97384662
That is some next level incompetency since it is not looking like this is a rare occurance. It's seeming like if you go to a pre-release a minimum of 5 players are gonna open this shit
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>>97384639
>This feels real weird for Ninjas

One of the intended commanders is esper splinter.
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>>97384664
That's why I think outside of the main cast, anons would think this is a normal set if you just removed the turtle set symbol
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>>97384674
TRIGGERS AN ADDITIONAL TIME SLOPPA
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>>97384680
Uuuhhhhh they're not going to touch the sideboard issue in commander, right?
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>>97384697
>Leatherhead
baaaaased
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Casey Bros....
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I'm feeling spiderman all over again
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>>97384705
Pizza Time
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>>97384403
Wait so they really are giving out Turtles cards at the Lorwyn prerelease?
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>>97384704
Both of Casey's cards seem shit
What does one expect from a man with a Jose Canseco bat?
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No flippy flappy for the turtles eh
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>>97384109
She gives me an excuse to make a naya monk tribal deck; one that's pure aggro, one that's boonweaver giant + pattern of rebirth to cheat all my monks onto the board.

>>97384014
It wasn't enough.

>>97384008
A fellow man of quality I see
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>>97384673
I probably will tell my LGS ahead of the event that I want my money back if it happens to me. Cause it really is inexcusable and maybe if enough people do that stores will put legal pressure on wotc
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I feel like I'm trapped in a nightmare
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>>97384646
>>97384710
>Donatello Does Machines
>Raphael is cool but rude
All we need is Leonardo leads and Michelangelo is a party dude.
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>>97384697
No fuck you, Leatherhead.
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I know that we're going to have a great set this year, because I've got faith of the heart.
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>Summon over 1 million goblins with Krenko
>Opponent plays this right after
What do you do without seeming mad?
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>>97384705
It's all the same shit covered in different diapers.
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>go for lorwyn
>see a turtle card
>sent to hospital because you suffered a coronary when you saw a turtle instead of a Kithkin in your promo pack
>go bankrupt from medical debt
FUCKING WOTC
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>>97384715
A-At least his equipment is good right? right?
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>>97384710
Damn thats pushed as fuck
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>>97384656
I didn't think Turtles would be the set that would have a chunk of new demons I was hoping for. Thought we'd have to wait for something like Capenna or Innistrad.
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>>97384743
In response
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>>97384745
>Implying that WotC isn't already dispatching Pinkertons to retrieve the cards and silence all leakers.
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>>97384747
Straight into my Knuckles the Echidna (® ™ of Sega) treasure deck.
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>>97384744
3/3 Elk mentioned
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>>97384759
YOU KNOW ME THE FIGHTIN FREAK KNUCKLES
AND WE'RE AT PUMPKIN HILL
YOU READY?!?
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Do we know if Star Trek is getting precons?
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Ready for Eldrazis anon?
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>>97384765
>We didn't get Pumpkin Hill Mountains to go with Knuckles.
Sigh...
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>>97384764
So you should only able to cast this for its sneak cost after the combat phase, right?
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>>97384764
So are all these prerelease cards or are some of them previews from somewhere else?
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>>97384777
I'm assuming they're all prerelease
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>>97384772
>have to put haste just because
SLOPPA design
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>>97384776
RIGHTEOUS
BOADCIOUS
REGANOMICS
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>>97384782
Really confused why black is Splinter's primarily color identity.
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>>97384782
This is a lot of cards for prerelease. I didn't think they'd give out so many early.
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>>97384793
Because he raised a bunch of kids for the sole purpose to kill Shredder.
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>>97384776
The only interesting commander so far for me
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really sad to see that The Technodrome sucks turtle balls
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>>97384805
what a shit card
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>>97384793
Realistically, it's probably so they can fill out all five colors with the good guy cards. Could also just be to keep him in line with how most other rats are black as well?
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>>97384774
Wait for the Sonic set.
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TURTLES OVER STRIXHAVEN NEXT
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>my opponent's faces when I mirrorform my 15 assorted creature and clue tokens into copies of my opponent's painful quandary

https://archidekt.com/decks/19002339/token_max
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>>97384796
Kind of wish this guy was legendary.
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>>97384833
>>97384808
whoever took these needs to learn how to take a picture.
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Do we have a regular Shredder card yet?
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>No normal Shredder still
>no Krang
>bunch of characters no one has ever heard of
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>>97384808
What is its casting cost
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>>97384808
I legitimately can't think of a reason why this would warrant being a mythic unless it cost literally 1 mana.
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>>97384845
Your guess is as good as mine since like >>97384838 said the retard that took the picture doesn't know how to take a good picture
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>someone...uhh sent us to pick up some uuhhh merchandise you shouldn't have gotten anon.
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>>97384844
We already saw Krang. Unless you mean one with his armor.
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>>97384864
That one is a boss card, hopefully they give us a usable one
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>>97384808
Why the FUCK is this not a vehicle?
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>>97384858
Wouldn't this make more sense flavor-wise as a land tutor?
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>>97384863
Apparently these were seeded in the lorwyn prelease kits or something.
And whilst I absolutely dig the idea of doing that for sets, I dislike that it's for UB crap.
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>>97384890
this unless it is approved UB
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>sit down to start trying to figure out how to build grub
>Realize I'm actually too dumb to figure how how to build an aristocrat tribal deck.
What a blow to the ego, maybe I'll sleep on it and figure it out tomorrow
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Glad lorwyn has kinda shit cards and the anime versions so i can buy the fancy versions of singles for cheap.
TMNT looks like it has decent cards but nothing i need thank god
This year is gonna kinda suck i feel until hobbit, and ill probs get a cb just cuz they gonna stack that shit with good cards
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>>97384900
can't wait for 12 different Bilbos
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>>97384537
I know it probably wont happen, but I would like to see references to the rankin bass version of the hobbit, and some murkwood spiders.
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>>97384870
Here's hoping. If we're getting multiple versions of the turtles I'd think their big villains like Krang and Shredder should be getting some as well.
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>>97384378
We have them, just locked behind Jumpstart products
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>>97384808
Everyone guess its CMC. Ill start

2
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>>97384951
>copyright Amazon
This bothers me more than others, for some reason
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>>97384863
This is the other reason why I highly doubt wotc did it intentionally. They are a company with a reputation of fiercely protecting their cards from being disseminated prematurely. I dont think a company known for calling the Pinkertons over this sort of thing would intentionally invite the conparison.
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>>97384957
I fucking hate how this goes in my zombie deck but I either won't be able to get it or it will cost 40 dollars
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>>97384957
jenovabros?
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>>97384965
Proxy it.
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> attending lirwyn prerelease at the lgs
> open my promo
> its a Technodrome from TMNT
> I take a picture of it
> my head is slammed down into the desk
> my nose is bleeding
> an overweight man flashes a badge at me
> "private security. your possession of that card is unlawful and protected my US copyright law section 252 article a viii"
> he clubs me
> he confiscates my prerelease kit
Worst prerelease ever wtf
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>>97384991
Dang that sucks. My promo was pic related and I ended up going 3-0 with Jund Elves. Hope you have better luck next time bro.
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>>97384997
this reskin annoys me because somehow wotc is unwilling to make a better card when t-60 is supposed to be better t-45 power armor
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>>97384965
Are these going to be that in demand? Most of the Sony stuff is still stuck in stock.
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>>97385019
Depends how wotc does it.

JAWS is 150+ because they made like under 3k of that lair and sold out in 40 minutes
But the sony and sonic shit is cheap because they made a metric shit ton of those.
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>>97385029
Holy shit it actually is that much. My friend gave me a Jaws secret lair along with a whole deck for Christmas. I really hope he got it from Wizards and not on the secondary market.
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>>97385042
Anon.....
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>prerelease is spoiler season
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>>97384775
Sneak lets you flash in anything
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>>97385042
I think it is the most valuable unique SLD card. And like top 5 most valuable in general, ignoring SLD Prize cards or the ultra rare bonus cards
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>>97385076
They spoiled 55 Spider-man cards while I was driving to my LGS for EOE prerelease.
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>>97384999
This is probably an insane card for some specific commander
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>>97385076
Please understand, Magic is the only thing left that keeps Hasbro afloat.
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>>97385076
>>prerelease is spoiler season
when you are on a 7 set / year schedule that is unironically the result. its just product fatigue reaching its peak
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Durdling the commander
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>>97385169
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>>97385169
If you aren't making a bunch of Caged Suns and other mana rocks to fuel more and more buffs for Orvar so he can one shot player after player you aren't playing him right.
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>>97385169
So Orvar is a He/She/It.
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>>97385322
orvarin' deez nuts
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>>97385169
I just use him to clone bobbleheads
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>>97384772
That seems awful with eldrazis, you don't get any cast triggers and you don't get attack triggers, so no annihilator.
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>>97385011
same, just power creep it, make it give an extra +1/+1 and make it 3 mana, make maximus reflect it too. the randomness of what got a mechanically unique card and what didnt is so odd.
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Kraven bros, how are we feeling
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I wonder how much these turtle cards are going to end up on the secondary market right after this. Doesn't seem like a small amount of these leaked.
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>>97384636
Seems pretty damn good to me?
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>>97384737
Extremely pushed green card. This shit can go into most green decks. It punishes treasurefags and artifact recursion based decks ez
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>>97384029
why don't they just use ninju..
>>97384061
oh, ofcourse it's commander
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>>97385792
So it's a Viridian Revel that you can build up to. Yeah, that's not bad. Though I don't really see many people playing Viridian Revel so it'll remain to be seen if people take notice of Party Dude. Though with it being a new card it'll be on more people's radar from thnat alone.
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>>97384305
omen
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>>97384085
>>97384095
>>97384674
>>97384680

A lot of TMNT lore feels like better Kamigawa than last actual set that happened in Kamigawa.
Hell, shit with dragon lord and dragons sealed in different dimension from the Next Mutation show could easily be rewritten to involve Bolas and the entire Dragonstorm bs nothingburger.
...it's really fucking grim when you realize that TMNT is better MtG lore than actual MtG lore.
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>>97385807
Viridian Revel and Fangren Marauder are both massively underrated cards, in my opinion. Also Teething Wurmlet.
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>>97385717
not good I won a few games with kraven and then never again
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Cool, its demonic tutor but for ninjers and rogues. I will pretend Master Splinter is a Nezumi from Kamigawa
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>>97385796
>why don't they just use ninju..
because blue players have a melty if they cant counterspell everything.
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>>97385820
>A lot of TMNT lore feels like better Kamigawa than last actual set that happened in Kamigawa.
TRUKE
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>>97384674
>more hybrid costs
REALLY makes you go HMMM
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Anyone ever played Animate Graveyard? I'm considering adding it to my shitstack of random hate https://archidekt.com/decks/19004911/skaven
Wonder if it's too annoying when it copies endless effects.
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>>97385717
Feeling good. Tried him for the first time in paper last week and Kraven is a menace. Fighting the key pieces my opponents were trying to get down and pumping him up all the while was fun. Though it does it hurt trying to defend after swinging out with Kraven. I was counting on Wand Of Orcus to keep up blockers which was working perfectly, but without that the deck feels very open. I'm probably going to want to get some blocker generators. Or use Pestilence like you've got in your list to control the board.
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>>97385738
Depends on how much restraint people have. All these cards will be easily available in about two months once the set comes out. Few will probably be worth anything by then. But in the time between now and that release these cards are in very low supply and the ability to say they played the cards before they hit the game may be enough to get some people to pay extra. I hope not, but you never can tell sometimes.
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>>97385839
Also do it doesn't bypass commander tax and leaves an open response window instead of instantly triggering an etb?
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>>97385945
yeah, but if it was made with commander in mind its a giant overreaction to one busted card that is yuriko.
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>>97385029
>>97385042
I love short printed mechanically unique cards!!
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>>97385076
>>97385125
>but only UB spoilers during magic universe set prerelase
oh those almonds a jogging
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>>97385837
it's always demonic tutor to me
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>>97385837
this card has nothing to do with ninjas nor rogues
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>>97386010
splinter is a ninja and he is in the art
check and mate
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>>97386013
this convo has nothing to do with checkem nor mating



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