Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>97409422>Thread QuestionHorses are classically a big deal for adventurers, right? For a medieval knight in full harness, a warhorse was more expensive than his armor. Why don't we see many horses in cyoas?
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>>97414160This heart is branching a lot.
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OC from two threads ago.https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2ne9vnylBuilds:Eagle Rider >>97406699Atlantean >>97406794
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Stop spamming. Just post a link to the entire cyoa next time.
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>>97414169Is that not from reddit
https://imgchest.com/p/pg73wmw9v4r
>>97414190>>97414189I'm not a /trash/fag like you sorry
>>97414189>posting cyoas on the cyoas thread is spamming
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>>97414198Posting a single 10-page cyoa is spamming. If you don't agree then I'll post the entirety of Fate Another Pretender and see how you like it.
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>>97414212>>97414209>I hate the posting of long cyoas>therefore I will post long cyoasWhat is happening inside your brain. What is this process.
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>>97414222>>97414209I think posting long cyoas in full is bad in some cases but not others. For example it's bad if:* if it's a cyoa that was already posted in full very recently, like with Platinum Age which was reposted in every thread because people kept making builds for it - in that case linking just the album is good* if it's in the middle of more relevant ongoing things, disrupting from them - that's spamming in a literal sense* if it's an extremely low quality cyoa - high school anime is what i mean here of course* if there's already very many images in the thread so it pushes the thread to fast towards the image limit
>>97414217If it isn't spamming then what's the problem? Do you honestly think posting every page of a cyoa is going to garner positive engagement? Either people will interact with you when they see the first page or they won't.
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>>97414238>>97414237Can you explain your>I hate the posting of long cyoas>therefore I will post long cyoaslogic? That's what I was wondering about
>>97414189You are a badFuck imgur, fuck imagechest, fuck all similar websites
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>>97414261Library, page 1.Requires a perk from page 1 to access.
>>97414261Hidden chamber mystery box
>>97414276Library, page 2.Requires a perk from page 1 to access.Just like in Planeswalker Rising. It's bad design and shouldn't be copied imo, there's no indication how you're supposed to handle it on replays when you already know the info.And that's all of Branching Heart, by Beri. The end.
>>97414290>https://imgchest.com/p/pg73wmw9v4rYou post v1.0, but post a v2.1 build for it?
>>97414234I dont recall Platinum Age being reposted in its entirety? It was only the Album being posted. Actually, I dont think that particular CYOA has been posted more than once in full.
>>97414351Yes - I realize I worded myself badly, that's not what I meant. I meant that Platinum Age was resposted multiple times, and in that case posting only the first page + album link was good since it had already been posted recently.
>>97414290>>97414294You alright pal?
>>97414362Sylen, in general appears to be the kind of author that drops his cyoa and then fucks off to do whatever after.
>>97414169>AI slop
>>97414469There's nothing wrong with using AI for illustrations.
>>97414194my mommy will save me :^)
>>97414565Mock it all you want but this is a working strategy.
>>97414619According to some it's not because "muh lore" and stuff, because vampires are all sociopaths so there's no way your super powerful ancient sire would care about you as more than a blood bag at most. But I don't know the lore and I don't care, it's my adventure anyway.
>>97414630>But I don't know the lore and I don't care, it's my adventure anyway.W-Wait, that's not how you're supposed to play the game!
>>97414565Best we can do is big sister.
>>97414630>Ignoring the loreWhy even play the cyoa then?
>>97414630Technically specifically because they treat you as a blood bag, they will get blood bonded to you and turn into yanderes.
>>97414630Isn't the "muh lore" argument that every other time this exact situation happened in "duh lore" it ended badly for both parties? Not that it can't happen
>>97414630>>97414732Also, lore vampires don't get to design their sires, if you want a lore accurate experience then you should roll instead of choosing.
>>97414630>I don't know the lore and I don't care
>>97414732Well you are essentially trapping yourself in a very power imbalanced relationship, with a immortal possessive sociopath. That will manipulate and control you. Which you probably won't ever escape without dying yourself. As there is no way your killing someone who has lived for over 2 Millennia by yourself and you probably won't have any strong allies, with your sire literally monopolizing you. But I guess if your content with being a pet to your vampire domy mommy for centuries to come, then you can be happy with your situation.
>>97414762No worries, his sugar daddy mage will save him.
>>97414793>Sugar daddy archmage>Methuselah vampire dommy mommyWho will win the custody battle?
>>97414817Garou muscle auntie while both of them are distracted
You guys picked the Law Enforcement path right? You aren't criminal scum that selfishly serves himself while ignoring countless tragedies...right anon?
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>>97414835Boring. Also it's not really easy to read big descriptions when they are shoved into small columns like that.
>>97414892>Boring.
>>97414892I would argue that being generic rebellious "punk" criminal in a cyberpunk setting is a much bigger trope than being a lawman. Both still lose to the chad corpo path tho.
>>97414835>You guys picked the Law Enforcement path right?I'm sorry little one, but Daddy needs his luxury condoAlso, a life of debt slavery isn't for me, I'll still try to be a good guy tho.
Rolled 21769931 (1d99999999)let's see if I can mimic post numbers (so dubs and trips work properly as /tg/ is a slow board) with a dice roll...
>>97414908Understandable. Have a nice day.>>97414910I agree that being lil' shit lawbreaker is more mainstream, but they still allow more variety of archetypes, designs and abilities when it comes to making characters.More than that, a career lawman is ultimately a reactive character with little agency unless we're talking about detectives or some agency spooks.
>>97414965>Rolled 21769931ok, no dubs or trips, so I only get 15 points...>Easy MoneyTier 3: $1,000/day>Brain BoosterTier 4: 300 IQ>BearmodeTier 1: Strength and Endurance of an Olympic Athlete>PlanUse my money allowance and my high IQ to amass as much wealth as possible, and use it to help others and potentially change the world for the better.
Someone post Radiant again please.
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>>97415038shit taste
Rolled 56232918 (1d99999999)>>97414965I'll give it a try too, then
>>97415061>Rolled 56232918SAD, only 15 points for me too>Time Control Tier 5, why is this so cheap? Even if you're a complete moron, this is insane since you get everything above it too>BearmodeTier 2, I don't really need all the 1-point stuff, and I can easily get/mimic all the other 3-point things.I still want biological immortality tho so I'm going to use my savestates and ability to speed up and reverse time at will to guide humanity onto the "good timeline" and guide people into discovering it the normal way
Reverse Isekai Light OverlordTrue good guy CYOA. I hope the author feels better about himself and gains more confidence in his work.
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>>97415050Okay What are some neat ideas you've seen in CYOAs that you'd like to more of?For example, I quite like the idea of characters/companions commenting on your options and outcomes. Of course it should be used sparingly but it does add some life to the game.
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>>97415140not on my watch
I like gil kino :))))
Who the fuck is gil
>>97415198that's the sqiggly shit some fish have
>>97415198name for fictional fantasy moneys
>>97415174>not on my watchRegain your hope fren.Make more CYOAs perhaps. Creations strengthen your SVOUL.
Anyone got that cyoa with the artifacts from another world? It has a bag that can make anything and a totem of alien power or something. Candles and a ring too.
>>97415221ultimate god when?
>>97415198He was a cutie patootie. He’s gone now.
>>97415198He is a dead author of auld, a legend long gone by. His name is tarnished, his legacy is desecrated, his corpse is a feast for schizos.
>>97415233My bet is that Aromage will release it in the first half of February.
>>97415038I tried to make a build but the mandatory vows are so vague and crippling I gabe up. Like if I want a monthly vacation and push a way some drunkard bothering me then all of a sudden I'm Fallen and bound for hell. I'd guess my build would just be a cannon fodder build? Fight demons and die within a week, then party it up in heaven (would I even get laid or eat delicious food up there? Seems unlikely.
>>97415286What have you done...
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>>97415198minor author from aeons ago, hasnt been around in years, kept around as some sort of shitposting bogeyman for reasons known only to the mentally unwell
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>no cyoas where a villainous (you) can get redeemed by magical girlsgay
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>>97415324Vro? BTGs magical girl(?) cyoa?
>>97415290Im going to read the cyoa, and if those vows arent downright draconian, I am going to make fun of you.
>>97415324Make it.
I am so tired of cultivation slop I am so tired of capeshit slop I am so tired of anime slop
>>97415324That's the plot of BTG's magical girl CYOA.
>>97415354What about >Franchiseslop>Dorklordslop>Waifuslop
>>97415354For me, it's qualityslop. Hate that shit.
>Goodslop > BadslopSimple as.
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>>97415370you mean the cyoas that have no substance and try to compensate for it with a lot of graphical design?
>>97415343I mean they aren't all draconian but I can think of several minor circumstances where you could break the mandatory vows. For example it basically prohibits you from making money in any real capacity, so if you heal someone and ask for money in return, even if its a rich person, boom, fallen. There is no leeway for luxury or rewards, which I guess it's thematically fitting but you know, maybe a Paladin should occasionally live a decent life for a bit? Not having immortality didn't even bother me since the more I read the more my kind went to "ok I should probably die as soon as possible" with all the bs you have to deal with and there being no rewards of any kind. Also not taking companions gives you more power, and they're not bound to you in any way so why would you take any? And that's over half the cyoa, companions who you could've just allied with on your own.
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>>97415394aestheticslop and loreslop are kino, get over it faggot.
>>97415367ALL of that too>>97415370There right! Quality cannot erase the taint of slop!
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Gilslop…
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>>97415395>so if you heal someone and ask for money in return, even if its a rich person, boom, fallen>anon wanted to run the American Health Service as a fantasy superhero
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>>97415324>cyoa where a villainous (you) can get redeemedI'd like to see a serious CYOA do this, you know, without the tonal whiplash of goofy looking anime art.
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>*Slopslopslopslopslopslop*
>>97415423>Anon wants to transform fantasyland into AmericaI see no problem with this.
>>97415423Idk maybe if I save Mr. Corrupt Merchant's daughter who has orphans paying for hsi products and faces no moral consequences of any kind and is bound for heaven then I don't think it'd be crazy to ask for say a 100k from a guy who has several billions and spends that in a day of casual shopping.
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>>97415367>Dorklordslopkino...
>>97415432its probably going to have anime art just by virtue of how much anime art exists on the internet for people to be able to use for this sort of thing, unless youd rather AI art or smth
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>>97415443All you can do is hope for a donation you can refuse to prove you're a moral and good person
>>97415286What'cha bettin?
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>>97415435I love cats bros
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>>97415378>holy oaths (mandatory)>dont murder people>dont be racist>do your job>dont be selfish>oaths of chivalry>dont hit people when theyre down>dont estus in 1v1s>dont run away>dont be lazy>dont summon>oaths of noble>dont lie>make a good impression>dont take credit>be poor>dont be a hedonist>oaths of justice>accept surrender>dont break the law>dont into politics>do punishments that are legal>help people if they ask you>oaths of kind>try save people>dont be rude>dont kill people>dont hate people>dont poluteTHIS is what has been filtering people? Theres like two that have any impact on your life at all.
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>>97415466If it releases before the end of February 15, then I will stop hornyposting about Aromage.If it releases after February 15, I will increase the amount of Aromage hornyposting I do.
>>97415443>and is bound for heavenwhy would he be bound for heaven if hes corrupt?
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>>97415221>Make more CYOAs perhaps. Creations strengthen your SVOUL.NTA but I need help then.I'm making that noble CYOA (one where you need to marry in the beginning) and for the ease of use I want to assign each wife a color to highlight options that are associated/unlocked with them or their factions/houses. So the list is>Aloof Princess (the "it's just business" option from a powerful family with big army) [bright blue]>Spiteful Exile (anime villainess handed off to you as a punishment for her and to get her away from the royal court) [purple]>Attentive Bookkeeper (from a younger but very rich house) [orange]>Timid Heiress (from a very venerable but weakening house) [???]>Lively Daredevil (tomboy from a family that controls the most verdant and fertile lands) [???]>Captivating Dancer (brown exotic beauty from far away) [???]Kind of at a loss here for color association.Honestly speaking I might swap Lively Daredevil for Pious Damsel (noble house with heavy ties to state religion), both are so far my least favourite in terms of plot relevance and characterization, so if anyone has better ideas I'm perfectly willing to listen.Just to be clear, all of them are proper ladies of noble birth, monikers are just for, well, personality description.
>>97415395>it basically prohibits you from making money in any real capacity>anon has never heard of "loot"Its not grave robbing if theyre evil, this is a long established fact.
>>97415488>don't be lazy>don't be racist>don't be a hedonist>don't lie>don't into politics>don't be rude>don't hate people>help people if they ask youImpossible for the average 4channer.
>>97415488>dont murder people>do your job>dont be selfishShe's asking for the impossible here, also by RAW the "don't be racist" thing is actually "never be biased, no matter what"
>>97415488>dont be selfishYou can't use your powers even to create a comfy chair for yourself.You simply ignore details and nuances of how even absolutely basic things like that can absolutely screw you over and think you'll make it. Happy in ignorance.
>>97415488man fuck moralfags
>>97415488>"dont be racist"impossible while jeets still exist
The light:>"Just try your best to be good! Dont worry about the little things and just try your hardest and its going to be okay!"Anons:>"I LITERALLY CANT DO ANYTHING OR I WILL FALL BECAUSE OF SOME (WEIRD AND HYPER LITERAL/TECHNICAL INTERPRETATION OF SOME OATH) THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE I HATE THE LIGHT"This is just a parent not knowing how to communicate with their autistic child isnt it?
>>97415488the vows are restrictive and rezssemble ego death
>>97415529Fuck you, leatherman
>>97415536nah, the anons sperging out about this actually are real pieces of human garbage and have correctly noticed they're being singled out
>>97415536It's not her fault they're autistic.
>>97415536Anons tend to be unhappy and negative beings. Why do you think we are even here?
>>97415540>rezssemblesaar?
>>97415549This is probably the biggest reason why Radiant has been shitposted about so much, if you complain about the oath system at all both the author and his dicksuckers will insist that you're just mad that the oaths won't let you rape your way through the new world and commit 10 daily genocides.
>>97415536Anons spent years being assholes and convincing themselves it was the winning move. Especially for that sweet sweet powerThe CYOA don't validate that worldview, so they're having a fit. It's always the kind of person too.
>>97415523>You can't use your powers even to create a comfy chair for yourself.
>>97415567 But like just be a good person, how hard can it be?
>>97414169control build: as the library opens up to whoever hold the most place of power, individual strength is not the best way to do this.>FACTION: city councilsince there's an outsider and rim build I guess I'm going for a city build to even things out>FORCE: the advocatevery high power ceiling and it can all snowball pretty hard considering the more power I have the more I can offer in contracts so the more I can gain from others>PERK: debtorI do need some heavy muscle as a bodyguard considering all the backstabbing and how squishy I am>FLAW: lackeymight be a flaw now, but I bet could make use of his dementia to either force some unfair contracts onto him>SKILL: discoveryappeal has its appeal, but one minute is not that much and knowing more about my target is bound to make me a better negotiator>HOME ENHANCEMENTS: med beds + communication jammerhealing anything short of death is a big deal.I was tempted to get the laboratory for an early investment for the future but considering my force, information is worth its weight in gold so I want it as safe as possible>ARTIFACT: silicon effigyI do need a trustworthy and competent ally who I know wont backstab megame plan: use my skill and perk to amass as many useful people and demons to my side, my relic can help me with coordinating them, stealthily get rid of the council representative and steal his place (maybe I could do some illegal stuff and blame it on him), build a lab to start doing research as it sounds like it could take years before finding the library, find a demon who can make me ageless considering I did not pick the mirror relic.
>>97415540wat
>>97415567NTA but there is a difference between>Anon is bit annoying.>Anon is an school shooter that rapes toddlers on evenings
>>97415536Radiantseethers are the equivalent of angsty spoiled teens that wish death upon their parents because they told them to behave.
>>97415509>Timid Heiress (from a very venerable but weakening house) [???]Lilac always works for this. It has some implication of the royalty of purple, but is very feint>Lively Daredevil (tomboy from a family that controls the most verdant and fertile lands) [???]Literally any bright colour. Don't overthink it>Captivating Dancer (brown exotic beauty from far away) [???]Something deep, an oceanic blue perhaps>Pious DamselGoldYou really don't need to think about it too hard, and you especially don't need to balence your colour wheel here, people won't mind
>>97415587No there isn't. If you don't like oaths, you're just a seething sociopath.
>>97415585he defines himself by his evil and self-indulgent views and deeds, so the thought of giving them up feels like ego death to him
>>97415567because the usual complaint is "I have to be selfless and I dont like that"
>>97415575>just be a good personJust be a selfless saint. It's not quite the same.
>>97415575Anon by RAW if you have to choose between saving your daughter/lover/closest friend/literally anyone who benefits the world in some way and saving the biggest piece of shit entropist player that's actually had their build happen but decided to not commit any genocides for the next 5 years, you're going to fall if you show any bias between who among them you should save
>>97415599personally the only oath that i wouldn't want to take is the one that tells me to do stuff all the timelike, doing things is exhausting and i want to rest a lot you know?
>>97415595>You really don't need to think about it too hard, and you especially don't need to balence your colour wheel here, people won't mindNah it's not that I'm trying to make a mathematically correct color palette, I'm just terrible at picking colors for things.Thanks for the input.
>>97415536Nah, they just want to make shopping list builds like they usually do and they feel that oaths are forced drawbacks instead of being an integral part of CYOA (like say the fact that you're undead in a CYOA about being undead). Nothing of value is lost honestly, it's not like I read those faggots' builds for any other CYOAs anyway, they're usually extremely boring>immortality>OP magic>waifusWow, cool build, anon, I'll put it in the trash bin with the other ones.TL;DR: Radiant has nothing to do with all that seething, most anons are just boring redditors with boring builds who are denied a chance to make their boring build again so they seethe.
>>97415522The way oaths work it's more like "never knowingly act according to your biases". You are free to hate niggers but you can't assume every nigger in the land is a demon worshipper and smite them for it.
>>97415607Well, just don't be biased then?
>>97415614being undead in a cyoa about being undead IS a forced drawback
>>97415509You could do what I do and generally match color associations to the dominant color in that character's images. Or recolor the images (changing hair color, etc.) if there is no dominant color, or you really want a different dominant color
>>97415620I don't read sentences that don't start with a capital letter. Try again.
>>97415617No
Why do guns piss off martial fags? Is it because it’s a glimpse into what it would be like fighting a caster? Totally unfair?
>>97415607The issue is that it doesent, and youre just not very good at RAW while being autistically obsessed with it
>>97415593I can picture Dawn (Mother) asking at dinner if they made any new friends and Anon throwing his plate to the wall because this SLUT had the gall to imply his 2D waifus weren't real and he was a retard and he'll never amount to anything in life and more things she hasn't said but definitely implied.
>>97415614Based and trvthpilled.
>>97415629no way fag
>>97415637>the quests are just a way to get anon out of the house and to socialize
Radiant > JRPG Traitor At least Radiant gets builds done, when was the last time Jrpg got ANYTHING other than fagposting about Pegan and cultivation?
>>97415607Um no, if they only decided to not be a monster for the next five years then they still deserve to die
>>97415614No wonder Tok didn't make his build for it, he always does the same boring one every time. That's a good reason to not include immortality in CYOAs at all. authors, take heed
>>97415633Matterjeeta we don't have time for your sluttry right now, we're currently having a minor civil war. Come back later, to get your daily dose of cock.
>>97415634>Is not allowed to show bias or prejudice >All are equal Exactly, if you save someone you like instead of some random piece of shit, you lose.
>>97415646Nah
>>97414169>>97415581forgot to addthe images could use some work, I like the color aesthetic they went for but some of the images either don't convey the choice well or just have too much going on making them hard to look at.the cyoa isn't bad but it has very little in terms of personalizing ones build and it suffers from a severe lack of worldbuilding: wtf are the place of power? where are they? who is currently in control of each one of them? what counts as "controlling" a place of power? are there some notable people I should be aware of? what kind of tech/resources am I working with? do I start alone or do I have grunts to do my bidding? what can demons do exactly? etc
>>97415637>"You don't want to end up like that math girl down the street, sweetie.">"I'M NOTHING LIKE CHARLOTTE TAKE IT BACK RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH">>97415633We're on the Moral/Freedom debate, keep up. We'll do this one later.
>>97415643CHALLENGE LEVEL: IMPOSSIBLE.
>>97415663>and it suffers from a severe lack of worldbuilding:More like you suffer from a severe lack of imagination.
>>97415669Not with Anon's mom meta CYOA
>>97415646So the most dogshit new cyoa will always be better than an older cyoa because the new one is new and has gotten builds recently?
>>97415646>Why doesn't a decade old get any more builds? this must mean it's shit!Bait or Retardation?
>>97415673Just don't respond to him, maybe being ignored will at least teach him to write like an adult.
Mom CYOA where you play as mom and have to kill bullies who made your son kill himself
>>97415675>being handheld by his mom to face the outside worldHow will he ever recover from that humiliation
>>97415661>>Is not allowed to show bias or prejudice>and then the next section shows exactly what that actually means >all are equal>and the next section once again states what that previous thing means>if you save someone you like instead of some random piece of shit, you lose.Your interpretation doesent even work in your own version of events, because you still picked one rather than the other, by your own mentally ill logic you still fall.
>>97415687ywnbawNow the same cyoa with the genders swapped around might have more potential
>>97415689He will grow up mentally and will value his mom's advice as she obviously wants the best for him. Then he'll go outside, make friends, and find a gf.
>>97415696>bullies killed my daughterI'd kill the bullies, the authorities, the world and then myself. Nobody deserves to live if she doesn't.
>>97415676>>97415677Cope. If it was a matter of it being older, then people wouldn't talk about it at all. >Can't even say when was the last time Jrpg had a build posted Yeah, I'm noticing.
>>97415696Who are we kidding? anons will just molest their daughters.
>>97415509>NTA but I need help then.Aloof Princess: Bright Blue - The color of practical traditionSpiteful Exile: Black - The color of selfishnessAttentive Bookkeeper: Gold - The color of moneyTimid Heiress: Pink - The color of meekness Lively Daredevil: Green - The color of lifeCaptivating Dancer: Purple - The color of foreign exotic rulership (I'm thinking of Byzantium when compared to western Europe) could also be Orange instead if you go with a distinct Gold/Yellowish color for the Bookeeper>Pious DamselYou could put a few of her elements into the Timid Heiress, that could be a good fight
You guys definitely try to cause emotional harm to innocent autists. You'll fall.
You guys realize the paladin cyoa just outright says you don't fall if you sincerely try to be good? Unless you're a gigantic retard that shouldn't be a problem fo- Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, I get it now!
>>97415706It got one last thread retard
>>97415700In a distant future, perhaps.Right now it's the phase where he slams the door, put his headphones at max volume and daydream his power fantasy with his 10/10 harem where everyone respects, love and obey him.
>>97415692Are you retarded or baiting? By picking someone you like you show bias towards people you like.
>anon sees a passage very clearly saying "you aren't allowed to not help people just because you don't like them">immediately loses his mind about how he has to sacrifice his friends to save death row inmates
>>97415706Ah so it was both.
>>97415709>that could be a good fight*a good fit*derp
>>97415722By that interpretation, you show a bias towards people you dislike if you pick someone you dislike.
>>97415716Proofs? No one cared about it anyway.
>that one moralfag samefaging supportlmao
>>97415706There was literally a build last thread.
so... any good cyoas lately?
>>97415732Go to the last thread and search 'witch"
>>97415733>Loses argument.>Immediate schizo meltdown.Works every time.
>>97415725You just want to see two noble girls fight, big puffy dresses, expensive jewelry and all.
>>97415646>Radiant > JRPG Traitor
Dawn should have had an aspect of the therapist, that would help anon.
>>97415733>play moralfag CYOA>I'M FORCED TO BE MORALFAG??? HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!Clown
>>97415646>At least Radiant gets builds done>literally zero builds total
>>97415677A retardation so strong it's out of this world. Outer Retardation, if you will.
>>97415745That's just aspect of the mother.
>>97415745>Dawn should have had an aspect of the the rapist, that would help anonIt might
>>97415745That's one of the stated effects of the Mother IIRC
As always, my only mistake was not reducing anyone who disagreed with me into a retarded strawmanNow let's move on from this pointless argument
>>97415752>literally zero builds totalI know op is a huge faggot, but why would you lie about this?
>>97415748Tfw you're pro-morals but anti-Christianity
I'm glad anons are finally catching up on how retarded and forced the Radiant hate was. Even if the cyoa is mediocre the Author should not face harassment because a couple of spergs got their panties twisted. Plus its his first cyoa, there's plenty for him to learn and improve.
>>97415717What are CYOAs for if not power fantasy? I think you might be in the wrong thread.
>97415804Not even worth a (You)
>>97415709I really like these. Thanks, anon.>>97415709>I'm thinking of Byzantium when compared to western EuropeI tried to keep things somewhat vague and weird to preserve the 'mysterious faraway lands' vibe, especially since establishing a proper connection is an optional storyline (Dancer being available is one of the rewards) but yeah, it's not just Arabian nights.>You could put a few of her elements into the Timid Heiress, that could be a good fightI might, if I feel like she lacks personality. Currently all girls are under construction to some extent.
>>97415756>>97415760>>97415766Interesting sequence of posts.
>>97415804Cyoas where never exclusively powerfantasy. The rise of powershittery is a relatively recent development. Before it was mostly just adventurekino, comfykino and waifustuff, with bit of survival horror cyoas on the side.
>>97415700>>97415717desu stuff like this always feels like the posters projecting. Even if you sincerely believe most anons are like this, you're still voluntarily choosing to interact with that kind of retard, so I doubt you're any better.
>You're Evil>You just want all the waifu's>I hate you b-bakaYou know you can just ask for attention?We don't have to do this whole radiant bit
>>97415804Is your only form of escapism power fantasies? Very fascinating, if that's the case. There are plenty of other popular genres (waifu fantasy, comfy fantasy) that are fully separate from power fantasies...you could combine multiple, but plenty of people enjoy those on their own.
>>97415734Post link>>97415738>searchShan't. If you have something to say say it, don't go>mmm just go and search for proof yourself trust me dude it's there
>>97415804Island survival CYOAs were among the first here. I'd call you a retarded secondary but you're probably so new you're a Reddit tertiary at this point.
>>97415820If anon asks for attention, then I will ignore him
>>97414630It's a dumb argument because there are many, many examples in the lore of an ancient vampire falling in love. It just normally ends in tragedy because it's a dark fantasy setting. But it keeps happening regardless.
>>97415821All CYOAs are power fantasies, anon. You can't cast magic in real life.
>>97415826If anon asks for attention then I will immediately give it to him
>>97415830Post all the survival cyoas you have
>>97415815>Anon gets mommy'd until he stops being such a little contrarian
>>97415820>Loses argument.>Starts vague posting.Works every time.
>>97415825Nobody makes those anymore. Do you think that's just a coincidence? It's because they're not fun and not what people want.
>>97415834The burning sting of my apathy will haunt him for life and cause him to take your care for granted
>>97415840You know what people love? Pill pickers. Just look at Reddit, they have the most updoots. You should really go there if you love popular things.
>>97415840Speak for yourself. I would love some island survival kino right now.
>>97415837I love you too, dumbbitchanonI will be here for you
>>97415815>You're so cute when you're edgy, boy>Mhm, tell me about how you hate things, hehe>Literally slavery? Ara ara how adorable This was the endgame all along.
>>97415848In two years shitposters will be back to arguing that pill pickers are the peak of cyoas and that cyoas longer than 4 pages are unplayable
>>97415840>they're not funValue judgement. Discarded>not what people want"Factual" judgement with no statistical proof. On an anonymous imageboard where everyone can samefag. Discarded
>>97415854thnx :3
>>97415835Nowadays even CYOAs where you have to survive a difficult situation give you more control(power) over your life than you currently have, and often have a reward for survival. That is a power fantasy.
>>97415860And then it's back to 'nyooo if it's less than ten pages long it's literally slop and unplayable'The Wheel of CYOAGsara
>>97415858We never had a chance...
>>97415840Bandwagon fallacy, really? You got signature out of all those people you speak of yet? You sure you're not a jeet? They love their appeals to popularity and authority.
>>97415840Seething Powerfaggot gets collectively BTFO'd by the thread. You love to see it.
Build your own thread derailer
>>97415840I love island survival CYOAs. Get some taste, you have a palate of a child
All CYOAs are power fantasies, except maybe that BTG one where you literally die. You are here to entertain a scenario under your control. That is a power fantasy.
>>97415885Its time we put these newfag powersissies in their place. They are the number 1 factor for the downfall of this general. I'm willing to be he's an Entroshitter too.
>>97415891>except maybe that BTG one where you literally dieThere is an argument to be made about suicidal ideation and how freeing the lack of choice is.
Radiant was a mistake.
>>97415872Mother knows best, after all.
>>97415891A classification where everything fits into a single category is useless. Let's agree with your retarded logic:>survival power fantasy>power fantasy where power is taken away from you>power fantasy where you pick a pillIf you remove the power fantasy part you can have a demarcation between categories. Ergo, you're a retard, I'm a chad, kill yourself, your mother will die in her sleep tonight
>>97415887Wdym? this is the highest quality discussion we had in a while. Even matterjeeta got scared by our collective might and ran away after one post.
Your actual life is a power fantasyYou have limitless potential, and a fair chance of making it to the invention of a cure to agingEveryone else is basically a jobber who does nothing
>>97415915>fair chance of making it to the invention of a cure to aginglol, do people actually believe this cope?
>>97415915Just because it's invented doesn't mean it will ever be available to anon
>>97415915>limitless potential I'm stupid tho >and a fair chance of making itNo I don't
>>97415908>your mother will die in her sleep tonightpower fantasy where mom can't tell me what to do anymore
>>97415924>I'm stupid thoTokie cutie...
>>97415922There are several untested cures available right now, and for a fairly low priceThere is a fairly good chance that a proven cure will be something cheap
>>97415915Real life is a rollshit cyoa. A random number generator decides 90% of your adventure, with the remaining 10% being your self-determination.
>>97415938The number of pigments in my skin...
>>97415887This should be the OP next thread.Just to mess with the anons browsing the /tg/ catalogue.
>>97415935The fact that you talk about a "cure" like a magic pill you take instead of a complex of procedures, organ replacements and the like tells me everything I need to know about your knowledge on the topic.
>>97415943Tokjeet... You're on the CYOA council, but we don't grant you the rank of White.
>>97415848It's not a popularity argument, it's about what's even being made anymore. Survival scenario CYOAs aren't being made anymore.
>>97415938>>97415943Real life rollshit probably looks like this>Roll gender>Roll race>Roll birthplace>Roll familial status >Roll family social/economic status >Roll genetics>Roll sexuality>Roll childhood events>Roll teenage events>Roll adulthood events>Roll elderly events>Roll ending All rolls have a 1% percent chance of instant death, prematurely ending your run.
>>97415967Icescape is technically a survival CYOA and it was pretty recent
>>97415509I hate all of them, do better.
>>97415972Someone should make an Earth CYOA.
>>97415982Wasn't there a game where you could simulate a life of a random person on Earth? It had meme-worthy threads on /v/ too where most of the time they were born in India or somesuch
>>97415991>on /v/ too where most of the time they were born in IndiaArt imitates life.
>>97415991>It had meme-worthy threads on /v/ too where most of the time they were born in India or somesuchThat's my biggest gripe with reincarnation, the chance of your soul getting dumped into that shithole is just too big for me to risk it.
>>97416001Well, DUH! OC OC OC OC OCRoll dice+1d1000 to see where you'll be reincarnated after you die!
Rolled 38, 9, 50, 86, 32, 26, 60, 88, 61, 14, 76, 33 = 573 (12d100)>>97415972I'm feeling lucky
>>97415991Its either that or China, and I would rather take the latter. Even the poorest ccp slave probably leads a better life that the average jeet.
>>97416008Fucking hell, someone should legitimately drop a sterilisation bioweapon on that whole subcontinent.
Rolled 258 (1d1000)>>97416010>>97416008Maybe a good country roll can save this
>>97416008Whoops, wrong infographic. Try this site though:https://spinthewheel.app/where-will-you-be-born
>>97416035It's fucking over...
>>97416035I'm shit at geography but I suspect I'm fucked.
I rape all female builds.
>>97415738No results found
>>97416046>>97416041BLOODY BENCHOD
>>97416035I think someone used this to randomly decide the race of supers from the Superpower cyoa and kept getting nothing but jeets.
>>97416035Suicide it is.
>>97416035>Russia
>>97416052here >>97407138not my fault, the last two threads just blurred together
>>97416051nyo...
>>97416035How am I the only unlucky person to roll India?
>>97416080Pakistan and Nigeria are arguably worse.
>>97416064My condolences, бpaтaн.
>>97416080Tok...
>>97416087Does Nigeria have poop-throwing festivals and toxic waste holy rivers?
>>97416072>That buildDamn that's some proper autism, and I didn't even through the entire thing yet. Not sure if I should commend or laugh at it.But regardless that a build so I concede.
>>97416092Imagine Mad Max but without cool cars and everyone is black
>>97415950Yes! :)You did also forget excersise and therapies but sure, close enough
>>97416035>kenyafuuuuuuuuck
>>97416104Glad you at least googled it now or asked ChatGPT, education is important
OKAY. So I just beat Bloodborne (the only FromSoft I haven’t played until now) and I have to say it was TOO short. I expected more. A lot more. My suspicion is that it was (like ALL of his games) rushed due to Miyazaki’s greatest foe: DEADLINES. Despite this, I really do think it is his most aesthetic of the games. Underdone or no.I also find it weird how everything uses bullets in this world. Even the spells. This tells me Miyazaki didn’t think up a proper magic system in time. Byrgenwerth was a huge let down (the game’s main wizard is a vegetable by the time you find him).
>>97416008>australiaThey really are fucked, aren't they?
>>97416116I would never, I get my info from the finest schizoposts and occasionally brian johnson
>>97416035>Russia WHAT, ONE LIFE HERE ISN'T ENOUGH?
>>97416035I simply don't identify them as people, so this chart is irrelevant
>>97416112You should count yourself lucky, now you have a BBC and Olympic runner genetics. You just need to cross into Europe and you'll be golden, drowning in snow bunnies and swimming in cash.
>>97416121Nice AI-generated contrarian review.
>>97416121the only FromSoft game* I haven’t played until now
>>97416130Imagine it as reincarnating as an animal for your sins then
>>97416121You could've reused the first bait, y'know?
>>97414835>Body:Build: AgileAugmentations: Emergency Medical Nanite SystemExchange the rest of the augmentations for creds.>Housing:Luxury Condo>Career Path:Hit Mark/Mob Merc>Friends:Z3N, Mamushi (Event), Ink, Mayor SantiniZ3N trains me. Ink and Santini give me targets.>Rivals:Detective Miller, Lucy Penn P.I. (Event)Santini as a friend makes them utterly irrelevant.>Equipment:Active Camo, Monofilament Sword, Machine Pistol (Extended Mag, Laser Sight, Reflex Sight, Custom Grip, Suppressor, Explosive Ammo), Assault Rifle (Multi Spectrum Scope, Laser Sight, Custom Grip, Extended Mag, Suppressor, Depleted Uranium Ammo), Sniper Rifle (Multi Spectrum Scope, Laser Sight, Custom Grip, Collapsible Bi-Pod, Extended Mag, Suppressor, Depleted Uranium Ammo), Light Combat Armor, Full Combat Armor, Special Orders (Powerful A.I: 100,000, Drones: 100,000, Programmable Nanite Swarm: 100,000, Miscellaneous: 100,000)184,000 creds left.>Events:Vigilante, Repo Work (Creds), VIP Party (Mamushi), Making a First Impression (Creds)>2 Years Later:184,000 + 210,000 + (325,000 - 150,000) x 24 = 4,594,000 creds>Illuminati Position:The Auditor>Kraken Black:Project Chronos, Bio-Augmentation Suite>Bio-Mods:Xeno Splicing, Adonis Protocol, Efficient Biology, Heightened Regeneration
>>97416121>Byrgenwerth was a huge let downYes it really was and you can tell that the debate hall was originally meant to be in there >the game’s main wizard is a vegetable by the time you find himIsn’t that Logarius? There is no indication that Willem knew any magic
>>97416151>you can tellYou can't.
Phew! The thread is finally back to normal.
What kind of drawbacks do you like more?>OathsMake an oath to the gods and they punish you according to your sins against them.Otherwise they let you do whatever.>Corruption Your body and soul get permanent drawbacks like becoming short tempered, cold becoming much more lethal to you, suffering from occasional visions or go blind and even if magically healed lose sight again.>ChallengesYou take on extra objectives or obstacles that make your goal harder if you betray the challenges you come basically a hunted criminal by the government and maybe also be cursed depending on an optional challenge.
>>97416151Willem gives off massive sage vibes so I assume he would be a magic spammer back in his day, before he died and got taken over by fungus.
>>97416035I was so close to being born in the best country...
>>97415815
>>97416162Yeah I was getting a bit worried. Anons unified and speaking sense? imagine that!
>>97416165>before he died and got taken over by fungusThat's not what happened tho.>So I assume Have you tried paying attention to the game instead of just assuming shit out of thin air?
>>97416164All of these are interesting Husanon, just please, please, please finish the bedlam CYOA and the three goddess shards CYOA.
>>97416174Memers are the most unhinged members of the thread.
>>97416164I try to take the minimal amount because I don't like being limited in general.>oathsI'm too egotistical so I prefer to serve gods who allow for a lot of freedom if that's the only option I have>corruptionAny mental ones are hard pass. Having nightmares or becomign weaker I'd probably take if the tradeoff was worth it.>ChallengesAren't those just quests? Just have quests that you have to pick like 5 from and they each give unique rewards/points.
>>97416072It's trash. Literally Radiant-level slop.
>>97416164What he said >>97416185 except finish Luminary instead
>>97416191ENOUGH ABOUT RADIANTFag
>>97416174Holy basedDawn is TAMING the unruly Anon and he doesn't even realise it
>>97416173The DRC?
>>97416185and luminary CYOAand the fantasy colonisation CYOAand the evil goddesses CYOAand the...
>>97416191>still seething
>>97416198>>97416212Okay, Entropist level then. Point is, it's bad.
>>97416199Real chads tame Dawn first. Badly behaved little anons however get tamed.
Demoncratic Radiantpublic of CYOAGongo
>>97416221TRUE chads are already on par with Dawn upon incarnating.
>>97416173Dark Rapist Chads vs Unstable Sissy Autists
>>97416221>Badly behaved little anons however get tamed.Well, yes, that's the point.
Its a shame the last has such a dumb name, because he might be one of the coolest dudes in cyoa when you think about it.
>>97416241the last what?
>>97416151>There is no indication that Willem knew any magicProvost Willem was originally meant to be a major boss in Bloodborne before they went another direction. The reasons likely being:1) The fight itself was bugged. They likely just scrapped it and moved on. Time constraints. Etc. 2) Having Willem be ann insane eyeball obsessed lunatic wouldn’t match well with his wise “told you so” nature. He’s meant to stand (sit) as a contrast or counter to Lawrence, the one who fucked Yharnam over. But then you learn in the dlc that he was literally massacring villages for their eyes/brains so idk 3) It’s poetic how both lost their minds in different ways; one favouring Insight, the other the Old Blood. Laurence became a mindless beast. Willem became a (or did he leave his body?) mindless vegetable. Here’s your proof anyhow:> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ISHGRDJ2MOld fucker levitates his rocking chair like a weapon. His attacks were going to be invisible (high Insight needed), similar to how the Witch of Hemwick will lose her minions if you have 0 Insight. This is peak Miyazaki. Cutting content for reasons we can only guess at. >>97416161He’s not wrong. Willem and Micolash were originally the same character in the outline. This is why there’s such a scatter or fragmentation of academia across the game. The city is massive and had a split in academic thought, so it works. >>97416184That is exactly what happened. All the items in the game refer to Willem as though he were already deceased. He is already old when Laurence was young, as you can see in the flashback. The fungus on the back of Willem’s head and neck is based on the cordyceps fungus that takes over ants and other insects.
>>97416164Oaths > Corruption > ChallengesChallenge-style drawbacks are theoretically great but difficult to do well, they often diminish the value of the whole cyoa.One problem with challenge-style drawbacks is that you are often incentivized to pick either 0 or all of them, because each challenge feels like it could be tackled somewhat separately from the rest (unlike oaths and vulnerabilities that are on you permanently), while the boons you get for the drawbacks upgrade you permanently, and if you're permanently upgraded enough then each individual challenge become trivial. To Sleep Perchance To Dream (an icyoa, one of the best icyoas ever) had this problem for example.
>>97416247>Well you see in prealphademo scetched out on a napkin it kinda implies Ok but what does it have to do with actual gsme?
>>97416247We could have had so much more epic senior abuse in the game bros its not fair why do you this to me Mike Zaki
>>97416245Thats why its dumb. Its just "the last". dude could turn cosmic avatars of death into power banks but not come up with a better name
Every time I see a new /cyoag/ I get excited for a bit, knowing that a new OC might be here. Most times, it's just older CYOAs and newer arguments, and I go about my day if my attention doesn't get snagged by one. Every once in a while, though, maybe one in twenty threads these days, there is an OC release, and the unadulterated joy of opening images in new tabs and setting up a google doc is what keeps me coming back. I love CYOAs more than any other media. The kino always outweighs the slop.
>>97416259Anon he’s calling you lore illiterate
>>97416266I still don't know who you're talking about.
>>97416164>OathsRarely interact with a players build at all. Just gives a big invisible wall restricting what they can do.>CorruptionCan interact with player builds, but maiming yourself for points isn't especially fun gameplay.>ChallengesPretty much just free points since people assume their builds are good and that they'll always win.More cyoas could go without drawbacks. Make your point systems more dynamic instead.
>>97416064>RussianCold resistancePain resistance Alcoholic rage buffAlcoholic retardation debuff>>>97416080>IndianQuick breedingSmelly auraScam/Rape victim radar Permanent diarrhea debuff >>>97416112>KenyanHigh speed buffCharisma buff on white women and animals.Intelligence debuff
Logarius is still coolerUndead not!Gandalf with a scythe staff > Mumbling old guy in a silly floating chair
>>97416274Your joy may not be my motivation, but it makes things a little easier <3
>>97416283Ignore it. We've entered the "off-topic /v/-lite" moment of the thread.
Don’t you dare talk shit about Micolash.
>>97416283Its the (a?) big bad from radiant, techo-lich magocrat thats going around kidnapping avatars of cosmic darkness to steal their power
>>97416274We love you too anon :)
>>97416284>maiming yourself for points isn't especially fun gameplayI like the risk/reward tradeoff. Same rush as when you're deciding whether to take the cursed treasure in a roguelike or not.
>>97416283The Dark Unfathomable from Radiant.
>>97416287Martyr Logarius is what happens when Gandalf takes the One Ring for himself. ;^)
Don’t we have a bloodborn cyoa
>>97416164I would rather corruptionChallenges are usually things you don't need to build around, and are pretty bad when they give general rewardsOaths are usually bland and the implementation that I am constantly being watched by someone I cannot see or contact is badI would rather drawbacks that remove starting resources that I already have to those that create elaborately unavoidable harm
>>97416305isnt that the sword?
>>97416247That’s really cool, but also really sad, that they ended up relegating him to lame npc status. They clearly worked hard on his design. Only to have him sit there and do nothing.
>>97416184Those games force you to assume shit out of thin air, you retarded motherfucker. I guarantee you Miyazaki doesn’t even know his own worlds in their entirety. He just does shit for the sake of it. He wings everything. Something you morons don’t understand.
>>97416315Anon he had a whole paragraph to himself.
>>97416274To me, CYOAs hit a very specific middle ground between actual fanfiction, theory crafting, fantasizing about a specific scene, making an original character and throwing random worldbuilding ideas. It's a perfect mix that gives a very pleasant sense of daydreaming.
>>97416247Is he made of wax
>>97416305no homo but how long is his dick you think?
>>97416350>>97416315>>97416305>>97416283Are you guys talking about the last quest from the abraxas page?
>>97414835Why does scifi insist on philosophical death traps? I want immortality and until scifi drops the "is it really you tho" immortality options I will continue to prefer fantasy.
>>97416340>Those games force you to assume shit out of thin airNot really, it's just smoke and mirrors aimed at people who want to think the lore is deep.Literally the entire plotline is explained in key item descriptions, dialogue and cutscenes, with other notes and weapon/attire descriptions filling the unimportant stuff in. You don't need to assume anything unless you willingly just close your eyes and go "lalala I'm not seeing anything".
>>97416370because people prefer to have fictional stories explore interesting philosophical questions, rather than serve as lowest sort of wish fulfillment
>>97416164Gimmi quests
>>97416360First off, you're gay. Secondly, Darkie is on the same metaphysical abstract as Flashlight, so "he" doesn't have a penis the same way "she" doesn't have a vagina.That being said, if they're indeed counterparts he might have his own "Dawn", which will be some Übermensch fitted for conquest.
>>97416380It stopped being interesting in the fucking 80's anon. By all means create a good story with real stakes and good characters but scifi is just knock off fantasy in the minds of people because of it's refusal to ever play anything straight.
>>97416199
>>97416380for pseuds
>>97416274>I love CYOAs more than any other mediaI'd rather be playing some newer games right now, but I'm a wretched Hikikomori NEET that's stuck on last gen.
>>97416395>>97416350>>97416315>>97416305The Last clearly isnt the darkness unfathomable/the cosmic counterpart to the light, do you think there would be a quest to kill cosmic space satan/the embodiment of all evil? The avatars of the darkness are also clearly the deathseeds, not the lich - which is why hes draining them for power in the first place, theres also selariels sword which is a sliver of the primordial darkness or whatever and thats why it has death powers
>>97416403>Braindead wishfulfilment slop consumer calling others pseud.lmao
>>97416419>cosmic space satan/the embodiment of all evil?I'm going to kill the Father and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
>>97416395>That being said, if they're indeed counterparts he might have his own "Dawn", which will be some Übermensch fitted for conquest.So whats "dusk" like then? Is it a dude since Dawn is a chick? Are its aspects "father", "brother", "son", "husband"? Is he less wholesome since the darkness is evil or whatever, and its "aspect of the racist/rapist/abuser/pimp"? Or is it a sexy dark skinned girl whos really slutty and tries to make (you) worse in the same way dawn tries to make you better?
>>97416426He can have his wife kill you
>>97416426Is the father even evil? he seems like a well meaning retard if anything
>>97416402I kneel.
>>97416437The wide shoulders are a turnoff, otherwise I see nothing wrong with this.
How about actually making some builds for Radiant if you love the lore so much?
>>97416446>well-meaning retardUnleashes hordes of uber-lich chuds to omnicide the multiverse because reasons.
>>97416466Depression makes monsters out of all of us
>>97416402Do you think radiant was intended to be a femdom cyoa? Or did anons just turn it into one because of deep-seated mental issues?
>>97416466The worst part is that he can't (or won't) even control said über-chuds, so they just end up actively making the multiverse worse without ever fullfiling their only mission of granting eternal peace.
Who is the author of Radiant?Did he make any CYOAs before?Will he make CYOAs again?
>>97416496CyrusYesHopefully not
>>97416434Since Dawn is all about nice supportive and feminine love (based on fililal bonds that stay forever) I expect Dusk to be about strict tough love >Mother => Mentor>Daughter => Apprentice>Sister => Nemesis>Wife => ShadowOnly adversarial relationships that'd make you grow fast and then break when you don't need them anymore.
>>97416496New author.
>>97416503That sounds like something you made up>>97416506Much more likely
>>97416496I heard its gil
>>97416496He's [insert author I don't like].>>97416503Point proven. First it was Rake, then PCA. Now its Cyrus (dead author who haven't shown up in years). Pick one and stick to it nigger.
>>97416489It is a disguised femdom CYOA. You don't realise you're in Dawn's clutches until it's too late.
>>97416035could have been worse, like india
>>97416505>dawn is for waifufags>dusk is for powerfagsI'd believe it.
>>97416511>That sounds like something you made upIts a clearly pseudo-Christian moralfaggotry cyoa with weird overtones regarding women and the author claimed everyone who doesent like it is going to hell, who else would it be?
>>97416544>Waifufags are "good">Powerchads are "evil"
>>97416524Black Magic says you will 100% go to an eternity of agony and hellfire if you use it if you do not repent, yet encourages you to be as evil as possible, and nobody has ever accused it of being a moralfag CYOA over its explicit afterlife.
>>97416035I got Mexico.
>>97416496GilYesHopefully not
>>97416567Yes.
>>97416572Black Magic rewarded me for playing it.
>>97416496It was a new author
>>97416284>More cyoas could go without drawbacks. Make your point systems more dynamic instead.But how?
>>97416505>>97416544>deathseed cyoa is pure unabashed powerfaggotry>has immortality to boot>but no waifus
>>9741652930% of being posted in a /gif/ Rekt gore thread.>>9741657350%.
>>97416597It's the better cyoa because I can conquer shit and take the women.
>>97416615>anon gets trapped in a wizards rape dungeon for eternity to get their power harvested
Pick as many powers as you want but for every power you pick you get pegged by an angel girl for one hour every week
>>97416257>Challenge-style drawbacks are theoretically great but difficult to do well, they often diminish the value of the whole cyoa. I do agree that's why the challenges award points that can only be used to buy external advantages like troops, resources and stuff like that.
>>97416572My blackmagic build excluded any spells that; A: require the death or torture of a human being. B: directly deals with demons. I just kept it low-mid level pagan stuff that won't instantly get me permabanned from heaven.
>>97416630>you roll a d100 at the end of the cyoa, every power you pick increases by 1% the chance a paladin comes and soulfires you for infinity damage
>>97416630Is she cute?
>>97416630I pick no powersWhat now Gayboy?
>>97416630Make it an orc girl and we have a deal.
>>97416648Well, obviously. What would be the point otherwise?
>>97416376>he thinks Mike Zaki has an actual vision Kekaroo
>>97416459loresloppers never make builds
>>97416615DELICIOUS houndlet spotted
>>97416656Are you saying the biggest name in vidya development right now (kekjima doesn't count) just blundered his way to multiple smash hits that became iconic genre defining household names? bold claim.
>>97416656I don't get it. Are you in denial or somethin?
>>97416665Anons who discuss the lore already made builds obviously.
>>97416692Why are you putting words in my mouth? He’s just copying George. It’s all lolmystery. You’re a total fucking faggot if you think it’s anything more than that. He has said before he treats gameplay first, story second, even third. Why do you think his lore is based around game mechanics? Why do you think he rushes his games? He gets bored fast. He has always been a winger. The polar opposite of George. One takes forever one rushes everything.
>>97416656So the straightforward by the book story that is completely explained to you was smuggled into the game behind his back or something?
>>97416702Miyazaki has never once made his games clear. Only until Dark Souls 3 did we learn that Gwyn likely raped Priscilla to produce Gwyndolin. The grandparents of Gwyndolin are Seath and Velka. If you haven’t figured this out yet don’t respond back to me.
>>97416711George barely wrote shit for Elden Ring, he just had his name attached to the ip for clout.
>>97416572You do know the realist physics obsessed fag is one of the people who made that right? You are an idiot if you think hell is le literal.
>>97416711>It’s all lolmystery. You’re a total fucking faggot if you think it’s anything more than that.There's no mystery tho. Only brainlets who got duped by youtube grifters think that. Souls games have the most directly stated narratives since Bad Dudes.>muh GeorgieRetard can't keep a storyline coherent to save his life.
>>97416711Reminder: YWNRWOW (Your will never read winds of winter).
>>97416729We don’t actually know who wrote what in Elden Ring.
>>97416723Nice bait. Almost believable.
i hate the offtopic moments
>>97416737Lol, you’re a cute troll, trying to convince me this hasn’t been Mike Zaki’s intent from the very beginning. His vision is not having a clear vision. I would give you a cookie but I have none.
>>97416744>We don’t actually know who wrote whatExcept Eldenrink is just a copypaste from Dark Souls, there wasn't much to write.
>>97416745He’s not wrong. See Gwyndolin’s half sister in DS3. It’s actually common knowledge in Japan. Translation issues.
>>97416744I can tell you right now that it wasn't the George. The lazy fatty can't even write his own books. His well of inspiration dried a long time ago. He's husk of a hack right now.
kill all loresloppers
>>97416759George is literally the Provost Willem.
>>97416752>this hasn’t been Mike Zaki’s intent from the very beginning>Uhm his games have no story! Its all mystery!>Dude you literally get told what's going on to your face >Uh that what he wants you to think!
kill all esl lowcase posters
>>97416767You should read some of his interviews before you start talking out your ass.
>>97416771Hey, many authors started out that way.
GwynDid notRapeDragons EverHe was not a scaly Fuck off with your heresy
>>97416756>It’s actually common knowledge in Japan. Translation issues.Common knowledge, translation issues, was hinted at in beta, was implied in an art book, Miyazaki once said something tangentially related to it, it came to me in a dream The usual soulslopper lore pipeline
>>97416780Not the lorelet whinefag we have.
>>97416596Give multiple point pools to separate different choices. Give options multiple ranks that cost more as you specialize in something. Add conditional discounts. Let people choose options as starting powers versus potential powers they'll unlock later. Don't use point pools at all and come up with a unique ruleset.There's tons of options that get used all the time.
>>97416775>You should read some of his interviewsYou should actually play the games before claiming there's any mystery as to what's going on in them.
>>97416787i've created three cyoasthey're all bad but i did make them
>>97416788I choose to do none of these and instead just write lore.
>>97416782Everyone knows the only one Gwyn ever slept with was Havel the Rock
>>97416751We all knew this was coming.
>>97416789>dude I know everything it’s all plain and clear Why are you going out of your way to be a disingenuous moron? No it is not clear and Miyazaki has never made his games clear ever. Sorry.
>>97416792You know why they're bad? because they have no deep lore or aesthetic value. You should reflect on yourself and improve, instead of shitposting.
>>97416789>Miyazaki says it’s about mystery >some nerd says ”um ackchually there’s no mystery”???
>>97416807is it really shitposting if it's my unfiltered dogshit opinion?do you really prefer bloodborne loreslop posts that have nothing to do with cyoas?
Gwyn had sex with Seath and Gwyndolin is their buttbaby, their shame. This is why the concept artwork of Seath has him look pregnant.
Would you be willing to play a cyoa with traitors among the companions?(They are hinted at but never certain, they still betray the faction if you don't pick them)
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>>97416823Sure, why not.
>>97416823Companions with actual goals and effects on the world are exactly what I look for in CYOAs. It makes the world feel dynamic and like lots of things are possible, unlike loreslop which makes the world feel fixed and boring.
>>97416815>do you really prefer bloodborne loreslop posts that have nothing to do with cyoas?No, but whinefagging is not much better.
>>97416839whinefagging, discussing is just tomato, tomahto. being a little bit annoying with your opinions makes for more interesting conversation.
>>97416823it'd be foolish to assume that companions are 100% loyal regardless (unless the cyoa explicitly says they are)
>>97416815I prefer whinefagging.
>>97416801>No it is not clearYes it is. You fell for muh deep lore grift.
Imagine if there was an actual legitimate casting system (instead of ‘Hunter Tools’ that make use of bullets for some reason) in Bloodborne, though? Like a legitimate starting occultist package. That would be cool. Oh well. Too bad. Inb4 “nooo Bloodborne is low magic nooo it isn’t like his other games nooo”. I mean. You’re right. But there’s still Dark Souls style spells being thrown your way in the game. The heights are the same. The road to learning them is simply a lot more ruinous. Bordering on the inhuman. You also have such ruinous fates in the world of Elden Ring, but magic in that is largely benign like it is in Dark Souls, until you discover the consciousness altering primeval current, or the yellow insanity of the frenzied flame, the formless mother, etc.
>>97416826Kinda early
>>97416886>That would be coolIt's not what the game is about.
>>97416788Actually I am doing something like thatThe CYOA has 3 different kinds of points you go on adventures to earn points and some special rewards then each kind of point has its own kind of drawbacks available and then the adventure starts.
>>97416898It actually is about that, you’re just placed into more of a specific situation compared to the other games. You’re dabbling in the eldritch like the other hunters.
>>97416898The entire game is about academics squabbling over eldritch truths. It is very weird that there wasn’t an occult system of its own, not just lumped in with silver bullets. I understand that the game is about hunting monsters, but the root of the monsters and the plague and indeed all the cosmic shit happening in Yharnam is sourced to the rotten fruits of academia within the region. It’s all sourced back to Byrgenwerth. Shame they didn’t have the time to finish that area. These games are filled with the telltale signs of rushed development, but despite that the game is still quite incredible, which is a testament to it.
>>97416914>It actually is about thatIt's actually isn't. Giving the player arcane stuff from the start is against the theme and the gameplay loop.
>>97416938Have spells build frenzy on the player.
>>97416938>It is very weird that there wasn’t an occult system of its ownIt's just literally the same spell system as DS1 and 2. Only in DS3 did they introduce mana and even then the core stayed the same until ER.
>>97416939>Giving the player arcane stuff from the start is against the theme and the gameplay loop.You could make the exact same against sorcery being allowed so early in Dark Souls lolStop being so fucking pretentious
>>97416955>You could make the exact same against sorcery being allowed so early in Dark Souls Not really.
>>97416955You could make the exact same argument* against
>>97416961Yes really; these games are martially focused first and foremost and casters should feel privileged to even be allowed into them Notice how even big hat Logan is using a shield in his off handCaster keks can only bitch; so stop your bitching
>>97416970You're either trolling or just really stupid.
>>97416961Remove starting spells and the caster classes and literally nothing about the game changes. In fact it might even make it better, if you find spells over time.It would be more fun if you HAD to beat the game first, before you can do an all magic run, like in Bloodborne.
>>97416977He’s not wrong. Miyazaki hates designing wizards. There’s barely any pure (by pure I mean zero martial anything) wizard type bosses in his games. Even in Elden Ring.
>>97416995Is Rennala really the only one?
>>97416955>The game is about discovering the arcane later on>I WANNA HAVE IT NOOOOOOWthe cyoag mindset
>>97415818your nostalgia goggles are thicker than your mother's ass
>>97417008gideon, renalla, crystal sage, the tranny from SOTE, fools idol(?)
>>97417034>the tranny from SOTEWhat?
>>97416995>>97417008it's more of a gameplay thing than a lore thing, ranged combat is supposed to be limited per world reset so you actually get off your ass and hit the enemy in melee, most casters whipping out swords or at least hitting you with a giant book is a byproduct of that >>97417051he probably means miquella since the only thing other than cast spells he does is seduce
>>97417024except there's no such thing as later in a cyoa, in a game you can work up to something over the course of hours, in a cyoa the thing you have when your build is done is all you ever have
>>97417057>miquella since the only thing other than cast spells he does is seduceBut Miq isn't a tranny, just a naturally feminine guy.
>>97417024He’s arguing that Dark Souls magic should have been like Bloodborne. You don’t start off with it. Can you read?
>>97417078he's pretty much the most feminine being in the entire setting
For all their love for the esoteric, From is really bad at making magic work. You can tell they only think in terms of fair, close quarters combat. This is why they always nerf (butcher) end game spells once the martial tards start complaining about PvP balance.
>>97417086Still a dude, thinks he's a dude and referred to as a dude by everyone. Just because you're gay for Miquella doesn't make the mind control boy into a tranny.
>>97417097>You can tell they only think in terms of fair, close quarters combat.They never cared for it being fair, it's been unbalanced dogshit since day one, and bosses in particular only got worse.
>>97417051the dude that wants to be a mom, hes a mage NPC bossfight
>>97417034Gideon uses a normal player model. He’s not a uniquely modelled boss. Crystal Sage and Fools Idol are from two separate games entirely. Within a given game, there’s usually only one (1) unique wizard type boss. There’s no uniquely modelled wizard type boss in Sekiro either, although those fountainhead nobles certainly terrify me.
>>97417109>the dude that wants to be a momAverage Entropist enjoyer
>>97417107They do care about complaints against magic, anon. They ruined Stars of Ruin, and now it has WORSE tracking than its predecessor spell Star Shower. What the hell. They care about balance but they’re so bad at it.
>>97417122They also ruined rivers of blood.
>pick up magic knight’s sword>fluff text says the magic knights use them to cast spells>”ah sweet I’m going to be a sword wizard”>equip it>it doesn’t let me cast spellsYeah From is fucking stupid
>>97417122>They care about balanceCheese. They only ruin things that allow you to sidestep the 'intended' way to play. Hence why certain melee shit is busted as fuck and never gets nerfed. It's within the 'intended' category. Magic just gets hit more because it allows for more than roll-hit two step loop.
>>97417137Yep. Something is either too good or just awful in their mind. No in between.
>>97417144>They only ruin things that allow you to sidestep the 'intended' way to play. Hence why certain melee shit is busted as fuck and never gets nerfed. It's within the 'intended' category.So >>97416970 is right. Got it. This is why wizards fight like warriors instead of trying to be as evasive and as annoying as possible. Because Martial Game. The most accurate wizard fight wasn’t even a full boss, it was a mini boss; preceptor Miriam or whatever. Rennala as a boss should have been a lot more annoying.
>>97417143Anon you need to train to be able to use swords as a catalyst for magic then you can use that sword specially made to function in this capacity as well as possible.
>>97417143They fixed it in the DLC, but yea the fact the carian sword didnt work as a catalyst was dumb, especially since they had catalyst swords in previous games.
>>97417098don't play dumb, anon, it's now clear you knew who the other anon meant, you just wanted to have this discussion about trannies and femboys
>>97417166there is that grany who teleports away from you if you get close and snipes you with long range magic
>>97417167Um, no. You can’t. It’s not a catalyst at all.
>>97417202you're talking about two different swords
>>97417166>Because Martial GameAlso because From are faggots who can't make magic that isn't a damaging projectile or a melee attack. Anything interesting is immediately relegated to generic system like mimic tears.It's wild to think that their spells haven't progressed at all since Demon Souls.
>>97417194The Witch of Hemwick shares a model with other enemies. She’s only unique in that she’s covered in eyeballs. L
>>97417187>it's now clear you knew who the other anon meantNo I didn't, which was why I asked.
>>97417208In the base game, there isn’t a single catalyst in the shape of a sword. In the DLC, they threw in an actual sword catalyst, which sucks btw. They also threw in a proper troll knights sword that actually has a phalanx spell, like the troll enemy in the base game (the one he drops doesn’t).
>>97417211It actually makes complete fucking sense that magic in Bloodborne uses bullets. They think magic is just projectiles.
>>97417174They were clearly overwhelmed with the content they made, and didn’t bother to review it thoroughly enough. I’m more annoyed that Gideon’s staff was a lousy mace instead of a dual Faith + Int catalyst like I was hoping for.
>>97417247>I’m more annoyed that Gideon’s staff was a lousy mace instead of a dual Faith + Int catalyst like I was hoping for.Don’t worry they wasted a remembrance slot of a certain boss for that in the dlc :^)
>>97417117>There’s no uniquely modelled wizard type boss in Sekiro eitherShichimen warriors? Although you do fight three of them…
>>97416573same
>>97416313>Don’t we have a bloodborn cyoaIt's a sort of sequel set in the modern day.
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>>97419215I'm not gonna post the whole thing. The rest is in AHS's author folder
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Abilities:Red: StrengthBlue: MagicGreen: GuileAdventurer: Choose two abilities from each color.Fighter: Choose six red abilities and one additional ability.Mage: Choose six blue abilities and one additional ability.Rogue: Choose six green abilities and one additional ability.Do these classes seem balanced?
Unrelated but I enjoy all the Discussion about Fromsoft games
>>97419550>Adventurer: Choose two abilities from each colorThis one seems underwhelming. If they're going to sacrifice one ability point, they should have more freedom in the abilities they get to pick.
>>97419550Sounds fine
>>97419550why do you need the classes at all though? the colors already take care of everything
>>97420809>t. Todd Howard
