Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>97433590
Crazy numbers, that's only 66 less than the total pool of commanders in 2014. They should really pump the brakes on printing legends.

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>>97433590
>TQ
You're off by 400.

>>97433629
Gotta take out Zoidberg too he's UB

So do I just put Morcant as the new commander for my elf deck and I'll be all set?

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Finally came in the mail. Had to order it from frogland.

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This bitch is so fucking slept on

>>97433766
I play her in Terra since Terra revives creatures tapped.

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>pay 4 mana and 1 life to draw 1 card in one turn; 5 mana and 2 life to draw 2 cards in 2 turns; 6 mana and 3 life to draw 3 cards in 3 turns; 7 mana and 4 life to draw 4 cards in 4 turns; etc. (All if the enchantment is still in play)
>pay 3 mana to get nothing in one turn; 3 mana and 1 life to draw 1 card in 2 turns; 3 mana and 2 life to draw 2 cards in 3 turns; pay 3 mana and 3 life to draw 3 cards in 4 turns; etc. (all if the enchantment is still in play)
>pay 2 mana to get nothing in 1 turn; pay 2 mana and 1 life to get 1 card in 2 turns; pay 2 mana and 2 life two get 2 cards in 3 turns; pay 2 mana and 3 life to get 3 cards in 4 turns (all if the enchantment and an enchanted creature you control is still in play)
vs
>pay 2 mana and 2 life teo draw 2 cards in one turn
>pay 4 mana and 3 life to draw 3 cards in one turn

>>97433766
If your deck has alternate ways to tap her or provides evasion, sure. Otherwise she's just attacking and dies to a ham sandwich. Also tutoring is unfun.

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>>97433803
>Also tutoring is unfun
Imagine not liking toolbox decks. Disgusting.

>>97433645
it's a very boring deck, but yeah.
like 80+ combinations to generate Morcant into an infinite situation one way or another.
She needed to have her cost increased.

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>>97433590
Trying to get this dude down to 100 cards right now. Stuck at 104.
https://moxfield.com/decks/JW3q1efRIEq3jE36_75jdw

Hi /edhg/, I'm a total noob wanting to start playing casual commander with friends. Some are using precons with no changes yet (final fantasy counter blitz, 40k Tyranid one, etc) and one is using a custom deck based on isshin, two heavens as one (the deck is probably worth about £100-150 and hasn't seemed oppressive when we've played against it so far). I don't know much about power levels etc and don't want to be a cheese lord - any chance a kind anon would review a decklist I've put together and given me some frank feedback if anything in it is considered OP, etc? I want to play an aura/equipment deck using galea, kindler of hope as commander and would like to know if I need to tone it down and put in some cards from the unmodified aura of courage precon, etc.

Decklist on moxfield is here:
https://moxfield.com/decks/rDZTAtOwyEKb-xoJrIpVbA

Thanks in advance and obviously tell me to fuck off if you prefer

>>97433833
Questions to ask yourself before asking us:
>What is the deck trying to do?
>does this card (every card) work towards that goal?
>does this card do its thing in a amana efficient way?
>do I have 10+ forms of removal?
>do I have 2+ boardwipes?
Then specifically for commanders with 4 mana cost:
>do I want to have my commander out turn 3?
>if so, do I have enough 2 mana ramp (7+) to achieve that consistantly?

Also tell all of us this stuff (besides individual card assessments) because it helps us understand what you're going for.

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>>97433590
>TQ
I built Betor because I like Abzan cards individually but never really had a stable Abzan deck in my lineup. Balancing self-damage and life gain was fun, though I always denigrate Betor by saying he's just Meren + White, which he is. But any lifelink creature slowly growing in power + Meren's naturally slow attrition based gameplan was enticing for my stax heart. It's gone through a lot of iterations and versions, like a smokestack version that had more token generation (Go-wides are sometimes a problem with this current version, but I usually can just slot in massacrer wurm if I feel like that's an issue). I slot in Perch Protection for a two-card combo with Vapors if I don't think a pod will bitch about it. Preston got blown the fuck out by some random rare in the new set that I didn't pull. Some cards aren't present because they were just too good and bracket 3 players on spelltable would ragequit over like accursed marauder loops and whatnot.

>>97433833
very Reddit post, but since you are new, here's some elementary advice:
>36+ lands (36 is really low for 99% of casual decks)
>around 20 points of interaction (removal+protection)
>instant spells/interactions are more important than you think and can turn entire games around
personal opinion: custom decks and precons do not mix well, except if you are building your deck to be shit on purpose (high average mana cost, next to no 1 and 2 drops, dogshit draw)

>>97433825
Teysa has nothing thematically to do with Papalymo tho. She's honestly better as an Ardbert

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>>97433910
>around 20 points of interaction (removal+protection)
when you're new especially remember that cards that do multiple potential things can make your life a lot easier since you need less of a perfect balance of all your deck components and just run into more situations where you can do something even if it's a little subpar.
this creature might just be a 3/3 for 5. or it could be the removal you need to not die, to kill someone, or the 3/3 reach you need to stop a big flying attacker or the 3/3 flyer you need to get a damage trigger on someone with blockers. unless you're in a pod where efficiency is absolutely necessary, these cards make deck building a lot easier

>>97433825
>>97433923
Also I don't think you read the card very closely, he's not aristocrats he sacs himself. I think you wanna play Amalia

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>>97433590
>We got 484 new commanders in 2025. Which one did you build?
Has a ton of triggers where when something dies, I create a zombie. So I sac him over and over and over and bring him back with the Adventure clause he has each time. It's a lot of fun

>>97433833
Cut
>arbor elf
Does nothing w/o a forest and when you do have a forest it's a llanowar elves 99% of the times because you don't have enough land auras to consistantly have one, much less more than one.
>quasali pridemate
You deck doesn't seem to be built around attacking with one creature so exalted doesn't function, and remoal is nice but there are much more efficient removal pieces.
>sythis
You have almost no enchantments.
>slippery scoundrel
There are much better unblockable creatures
>eidolon of blossoms
You have almost no enchantments.
>kestia
You have almost no enchantments.
>sigarda
No synergy.
>Sovreigns of lost elara
You aren't really attacking alone as far as I can tell
>promise of loyalty
You probably want more than one creature. There are other boardwipes that work based on other things you're doing.
>stubbord denial
Not enough counterspells to justify running any counterspells.
>arcane denial
Not enough counterspells to justify running any counterspells.
>kabira takedown
Not a good card.
>brainstone
Not a good card.
>colossus hammer
As far as I can tell you don't have condistant ways to cheat this onto a creature, so it doesn't really do much.
>mandibular kite
Not a good card.
>firemind vessel
Not a good card.
>grappling hook
Very mana inefficient
>argentum armor
Same issue as colossus hammer but slightly more justifiable cause it's repeatable removal.
>wolfwillow haven
This is your only land enchantment, so I don't know why you are running it.
>25 lands
This is absurdly low, eve for a cedh deck, much this is not. This is closer to the number of lands you expect in a 60 card deck, not a 100 card deck. You should have at least 36, unless your average mana value is under ~2.2, but ideally 38 considering your mana curve. As it is this deck is basically unplayable.
>almost no removal
You should have 10+ removal cards, ideally ones that removal multiple permanents.
>almost no ramp
This can be justified if your average cmc is low. Yours isn't.

>>97433923
>ardbert
>color identity
>legendary creatures
What does this have to do with teysa? Also the deck is papalymo, I was just trying to find an in universe character that would fit, and I liked the art of teysa here.
>>97433936
>he's not aristocrats, he sacs himself
For the purposes of my deck the only important part is lifeloss/gain on spells, which I couldn't really find a character for in similar colors.
>Amalia
>one card
>she explores and boardwipes
I don't see how that's any better.

>>97433923
>>97433936
I remember now. I ch9se trysa not because of her abilities, but because she's now part of the ghost cousil, and the ghost counsil's abilities tend to be life loss/gain.

>>97433820
I only know the 5 mana enchantment that does it

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>TQ
Built the top 2, bottom are on the back burner.

>>97433812
Tutoring is a design mistake.

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>>97433590
>TQ
Pic related, also Vnwyxt, Dr. Eggman, Eddie Brock//Venom, Suki, courageous rescuer, Suki, Kyoshi Captain, Tataru Taru, Minwu, Cyan, Stilzskin, Anti-venom, and Alisaie Leveillur partnerless all in paper.
Wow, that's a lot of UB slop I built this year.

>TQ
I replaced Lord Windgrace with Hearthull
I built Azula
At some point I'll look into building Metalbender Toph, though I suspect her deck isn't as interesting as it appears.
Everything else went into upgrades for existing decks.

>>97433616
They are, the TMNT set had several named characters that got genericized

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she's boskeletonrp

>>97434281
>spoiler
What

Thanks for the advice to those who responded! in brief it looks like i have a bunch of poorly optimized/low-synergy picks (not so much of an issue from my perspective as i am not aiming for a super high power deck straight away) but also a stupidly low number of lands, removal, and ramp (which i plan to address)

>>97433889
>What is the deck trying to do?
As i understand it, i think the idea is to end up stacking a relatively few number of creatures with a lot of buffs and useful offensive keywords to beat everyone else's creatures and swing into commander health.

>does this card (every card) work towards that goal?
>does this card do its thing in a a mana efficient way?
this to be honest i am unsure about as i am just starting to dip my toes into the water, and i know there is a metric fuckton of cards out there that do similar things for varying degrees of efficiency.

>do I have 10+ forms of removal?
no, i don't - will look to add some (probably at the expense of some creatures)

>do I have 2+ boardwipes?
i have 2 (ish); eternal wanderer max loyalty ability, and dismantling wave - will add a couple more

Then specifically for commanders with 4 mana cost:
>do I want to have my commander out turn 3?
i think i want my commander out ASAP to capitalize on their ability

>if so, do I have enough 2 mana ramp (7+) to achieve that consistantly?
i definitely don't right now (only sol ring and firemind vessel provide more than 1 net mana), i will look at some more sources for it

>>97434141
Got any hot tech for Gonti?

>>97433910
noted re. lands, i will probably drop a bunch of creatures for another 10-ish lands
will also add some more removal/protection pieces to my collection when i get some more cards soon
also noted and well understood regarding the mixing of precons and custom decks - for now i am basically deliberately trying to make the deck reasonably shit/poorly optimized with plenty of headspace to swap in more efficient/useful cards if we end up power creeping.

>>97433929
thanks - i think some of the cards i selected do have multiple roles but quite a few don't - as i am very new i don't really know any efficient/popular staple/signature cards for any particular purpose so hopefully that will come in time as i spend more time playing and browsing through the available cards etc.

>>97433992
lots of specific and very useful feedback in here - thankyou. i don't necessarily have an issue right now with including inefficient/suboptimal things in the deck, as i think we are going to be playing very casually for the foreseeable future and i'd be more worried about accidentally building something overpowered relative to the rest of the group, than the inverse.
too many points to respond to everything individually, but in summary i am going to look to drop a bunch of creatures and less useful things to add at least 10 more lands, and some removal/ramp cards additionally.
if the deck is inconsistent at this stage it's something i can live with whilst i get a feel for how well optimized (or not) everyone else's decks are.

>>97434339
>there are a lot of cards with varying degrees of efficiency
The efficientcy takes experiance, certainly, but a good note for the higher cost cards is that if a card cost 6+ mana to do its thing, and that thing isn't winning you the game very quickly, it's probably not worth it unless you can make it cost less consistantly, or you have a ton of ramp so it doesn't matter. The bigger part is knowing if the card properly works towards your goal.
>sol ring and firemind vessel
By 2 mana ramp I meant ramp that costs 2 mana so that you can play it on turn 2, so that on turn 3 you can play your commander, like rampent growth or arcane signet.

>>97434339
One last thing: never consider your planewalker's ult unless you have ways to very consistantly get it, cause it's probably never going off.

>>97434186
You're probably right based on how many of them are banned in various formats and how little they get printed but I can't help but love Birthing Pod.

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>>97433590
>We got 484 new commanders in 2025. Which one did you build?
I was certain I would've built at least one commander from Final Fantasy. Then I looked back and realized despite the, what, 80+ legendaries in the set? They're not particularly interesting.

I think the only legendary I actually built from all of '25 was Shiko & Narset curses. Which is discouraging, since I'm always looking for new legendaries that might be fun to build.

>>97433803
Lewis

>>97433803
>Also tutoring is unfun
Faggot

>>97434345
>going up to 35 lands
This is a good start but I will again suggest you add more lands.
42 is the mathematically optimal number of lands in a casual deck. Especially if you have mdfcs (spells on one side, lands on the other)
38 is the number you want if you want to hit your first 4 land drops relatively consistently (which every deck that doesn't win on turn 4 likely wants).
37 lands is if you're confident in your deck. 36 lands is when you know exactly what your ideal opening hands are. At 35 or less, you're running dedicated early draw to hit land drops, which your deck fumbles with.

Lands are what let you play the game. You can have a full hand of 4-mana cards that win you the game but they're just pretty pictures with no text if you only have 3 lands on turn 5.

My personal sweet spot is 40 lands if you expect the game to go 8+ turns, 38 lands if you expect 6+, 36 if you can win the game on turn 4.
For a deck like yours, I would suggest 40. If 40 is too high, 38.
I would not suggest any number below 38 until you've played a few games and know what cards you want to cut and what cards you want to keep.

>>97434393
>>97434407
more good advice - thanks!
i'm looking at 2 mana ramp cards now based on your explanation.
also good point about the planeswalker ult - i thought this would likely be the case but good to have it confirmed by someone with more experience. will add some more reliable boardwipe stuff to compensate

>>97434474
thanks, this is very clear - i will aim to run 42 lands to start with and will reduce them if/when i get the hang of what i'm doing.

>>97434444
Yes yes, we've all seen your combo the last time tutored for it.

>>97434283
it's a really obscure /v/ meme from ages ago

>>97434518
Just remember that cards can be swapped in and out. Nothing's ever permanent or irreversible.
At some point you're going to want to cut lands for more cards because you want to get more action out of your deck. That's natural. By then, you'll have more experience and a better idea of what you and your deck want to do, so cutting lands becomes a viable option since you know what you'll be doing to an extent. And if you don't like it, you can put those lands back in.

At some point you're going to be in a position where all you have in hand are lands and you really need a card that will win you the game or keep you from losing, but you're going to draw a land and get frustrated at it. Again, this is natural and happens to everyone. It happens to people running 28 lands in competitive commander too.
Your gut reaction is going to be that you have too many lands, and you're going to think that you need to cut lands from your deck. This is incorrect. The important takeaway when that happens to you is that it's not the number of lands in your deck, but the fact that lands will stay in your hand the longest because you can normally only play one of them a turn.
What it actually means when you're in that position is that your deck needs more card DRAW or other ways to get cards into your hand, like spells to get cards from your grave into hand, or cards that let you exile cards off the top of your library and play them, or cards on the field that you can pump mana into so your lands aren't going to waste. Learn that lesson sooner rather than later and you'll skip right past the "new player valley of depression" where you cut your lands for bombs and suddenly your deck stops working entirely.

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What are some other hidden gems of commanders?

>>97434343
Nah, its just basic treasure and theft synergies, its meant just to be a lower power 3.

>>97434568
>Unfinity

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>>97434343
>>97434577
It's specifically "mana of any type" rather than any color so couldn't you use powerstone mana or even mishra's workshop while overriding the restriction?

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>>97434474
>>97434518
This is a card game. Use math.

Cards in deck N=99
L is land count
X is the number of lands in the first n cards you’ve seen (7 for opening hand, 1 for draw on t1)
Let D(t) be “extra cards drawn outside the normal draw step” by turn t (cantrips, other draw, etc, this informs land needs)
K are 'hits' in your 99 (ramp, 2 drops, etc)
r is your reliability target, p is probability

The more low mana draw effects you have, the less lands you need.

>>97434568
not hidden, not a gem

>>97434596
No, that mana is still restricted no matter what you do with it.

>>97434605
Ah, had to look at another Gonti to get the syntax. "The six types of mana are white, blue, black, red, green, and colorless. Snow mana is not a type of mana." It's just 'mana of any color' that lets you pick colorless. Cowards.

>>97434141
>Gonti
God I'm so annoyed he's monoblack. Could've included so many more cards with the same effects in 2-3 colors. I wanna make a deck where people are getting 5+ cards a turn and have a fucking Mario Party type of experience

>>97434620
>hating on mono
you are a soulless golem

>>97434630
I have 6 monocolored decks. Your hate is unfounded.

>>97433590
>We got 484 new commanders in 2025. Which one did you build?
I have build monogreen Tifa, but I am also a fat piggy consoomer, I bought Y'shtola precon and almost all Tarkir ones (except Jeskai, I don't like Jeskai).

Don’t ask me how I know this but Barbie 2 is happening and WotC is planning a Barbie Universes Beyond that will introduce pink mana for that set only

>>97434630
Wishing he hit another color so you could do more with his kit isn't hating on monocolor,

>Trade Offer
>Cost: U
>Type: Instant
> As an additional cost to cast this spell, exile a card from your hand.
>Counter target spell you don't control. Its controller may play the exiled card for as long as it remains in exile, and mana of any color may be spent to cast a spell this way.
Balanced?

>>97434602
I can't even do combat math.

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>>97433590
>We got 484 new commanders in 2025. Which one did you build?
None. I only play old obscure commanders. Simple as.

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>>97433726
>Brian Sn00dy

>>97434711
no

>>97433590
>whenever <this creature> enters
>enters what?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I don't know anything about Magic but I like Final Fantasy and I thought it might be fun to get a deck just to have some cool cards, and also have a deck on hand so if I have a girl over I can be like, "oh you like Magic? You know I bought a deck a while ago but I never learned to play, do you think you could teach me?"

As a Final Fantasy fan the deck I'd want to get is the Y'shtola one. But it's like 60 dollars while the two player starter set with two decks is 20 bucks. Why is the Y'shtola deck so much more expensive?

>>97434724
Same here but I'm not a gigachad, I just think recent commanders have all been extremely obvious build arounds.
>rats get +1/+1. rats cost 1 less to cast. when a rat enters, draw a card. T: create a rat token
>spaceships get 2 charge counters. spaceships cost 1 less to cast. when a spaceship enters, draw a card. T: target spaceship becomes an artifact creature until end of turn
>creatures with toughness greater than their power get +x/+x where x is the difference. creatures with toughness greater than their power cost 1 less to cast. when a creature with toughness greater than its power attacks, draw a card. T: target creature gets +0/+2 until end of turn
>when x triggers, it triggers an additional time. when y happens, do x
>if you would (make/add) one or more x, make/add (twice that many/that many plus an additional one) instead
Commander is less of a sandbox now and more of a lego kit. I know exactly what cards are in someone's deck based exclusively on their commander.

>>97434768
>if I have a girl over I can be like, "oh you like Magic? You know I bought a deck a while ago but I never learned to play, do you think you could teach me?"
confirmed bait lmao

>>97434738
why not?

>>97434711
There is a custom card general. Feel free to ask there instead.

>>97434768
Yshtola deck is full of unique cards and powerful reprints for more high powered multiplayer magic while the starter kit is full of common/uncommon bulk you find in packs
$20 vs $68.50 in secondary market value

>>97434793
because it's unbalanced

>>97434776
>>creatures with toughness greater than their power get +x/+x where x is the difference.
If you mean this guy, you don't need toughness>power for its second effect, just a difference between the two.

>>97434798
wait so it's literally just paying higher MSRP for better cards?

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>>97434620
No, if anything, constraints breed creativity. I've used cards like pic rel, lantern of insight, maralen of the mornsong to great effect with gonti. I took the deck apart because no one is interested in playing other people's cards. They view the exiled cards as fomo.

>>97434820
they're for different things, commander is 4 player 100 card singleton while the starter decks are standard legal but they're full of cheap simple to understand cards that are really only meant to be played against eachother to learn the game

>>97434776
>I know exactly what cards are in someone's deck based exclusively on their commander.
Absolutr arrogance on display. What's my mekusar deck? What's my Zur deck? What's my Wulfgar deck? What's my Ephara deck? Krenko Kingpin? Atraxa? Inquisitor Eisenhorn? Svella? Mr. Foxhand? Marath? Sisay weathlight captain? Tenth Doctor + susan foreman?
Not everyone net decks like some tool, mate.

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>>97434815
Forgot image

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>bring back tuck rule
>remove banlist
>bring back old legendary rule
>UB cards aren't allowed by default

There. I fixed EDH.

my friends started buying all the expensive game changers and now they bitch that i use removal on their rhystic study
one of them doesnt understand why he cant win when he added like 10 game changers to his kefka deck

>>97434854
>still filled with commander-designed cards
No thanks

>>97434521
>All tutors are for combo
I repeat;
Faggot.

>>97434874
>People still seething around Commander Designed cards
Just say you hate the fucking free spells and we should ban them.
Like 80% of "Designed For Commander" cards suck massive amounts of ass and not even the timmiest of timmies play them.

Do people forget you're only supposed to win 25% of the time?

>>97434884
sounds like loser talk

actually the most disgusting cards in commander are the ones that had downsides designed for lower life totals or single player. rhystic is a 3 mana do nothing in a format where someone can just fucking kill you.

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>>97434841
OK, so if I actually wanted to play I'd want the Y'shtola deck?

>>97434901
Honestly if you and get your hands on them the foundations and avatar jumpstart packs are a great way to learn the game with friends. There's some decent value cards in them AND you only need two packs per person to mash together. If you're just trying to actually play you should get a commander precon yeah

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>>97434910
I don't really like Avatar, but I did really like FFXIV

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>>97434845
I can picture these decklists as clear as a summer's day

>>97434919
thought that was the blow job brothers from arcadion for a second

>>97434845
NTA but
>What's my mekusar deck?
Wheels
>What's my Zur deck?
Enchantment stax
>What's my Wulfgar deck?
Aggro, extra combats
>What's my Ephara deck?
Flash/Blink
> Krenko Kingpin?
Voltron/Tribal, kind of how people play Imaryll.
>Atraxa
This one is tough. I'll go Infect.
>Inquisitor Eisenhorn
Aristocrats with cantrips
>Svella
Artifacts
>Mr. Foxhand
Big creatures
>Marath
Combo
>Sisay weathlight captain
This one is tough... I'll go planeswalkers since I went with infect on Atraxa.
>Tenth Doctor + susan foreman
Some kind of cascade?

>>97434919
It's like a $14 investment for a 40 card deck you're gonna play a few times with friends and then you'll have new cards to run with other stuff

>>97434901
If you wanted to go outside and play with people yeah
mtg arena is good for teaching the game

>>97434881
50% of cards are designed for commander now. It's not just the free spells and things that specifically mention commander-specific mechanics.

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>>97434711
Could be printed in an un-set but not need an acorn, then get a non-joke printing in some Commander deck later.

>>97434940
>Wheels
Nope, zero wheels
>Enchantment stax
No stax, but some pillowfort effects.
>Aggro, extra combats
Aggro is pretty broad, too broad really, but more or less correct. Only one extra combat card.
>Flash/Blink
Nope, not at all
>Voltron/Tribal, kind of how people play Imaryll.
Voltron/tribal is a no. No tribal support.
>This one is tough. I'll go Infect.
Nope.
>Aristocrats with cantrips
Nope.
>Artifacts
There is some synergy there, but I'm still going to say no.
>Big creatures
Not in the slightest.
>Combo
I don't really know what you mean by this. If you mean I really want to get out a few specific cards and there's otherwise no wincon, then no.
>This one is tough... I'll go planeswalkers since I went with infect on Atraxa.
Nope.
>Some kind of cascade?
Some kind, yes, but the deck is more focused. I'll still give it to you.
So 1/12. Don't judge a book by its cover. Ask what the other people at the table are doing with their deck beyond what their commander is.

For fellow Impulse Draw players (Faldorn in my case) what flexible removals do you play so it doesnt feel dead on an impulse? I need to find things that can get rid of Enchantment/Artifacts on the cheap with flexibility (Heritage Reclamation mvp, same with Archidruid charm) but has anyone tried with anything else that is low cmc always useful? Im debating on Dire-Strain Rampage since I can use it as ramp for my lite landfall kit, Hull Breach is another since it is cheap and can hit 2 targets. I dont mind sorcery speed, sadly can hardly afford to hold mana up when they get drawn on an impulse cause of timing. A tad more expensive but wouldve loved for Decimate to be "Choose one or more"

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>>97433590
Syr Vondam, I'm a big fan. Repeatable removal is incredibly good.

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>TQ
Built these guys, built a Sokka deck for a friend, and currently building the Bant Katara for myself

>>97435079
Any secret tech for The Emperor of Palamecia?

>>97435157
>>97435157
feel like this has been asked before

>>97434776
There's nothing wrong with build around commanders. Decks haven't been an "expression of muh uniqueness" for years now. Simplicity is an artform unto itself and I'm glad decks like Rats and toughness matters are getting viable alternative commanders to helm their decks or tuck in the 99.

>>97434711
You getting to choose the card is unbalanced. For 1 mana it should be minimum exile top 3 cards of your library.

>>97435073
I thought Syr was just how it was on Eldraine

>>97435191
No, Syr is the libshit way of spelling Sir to pretend it's gender neutral. Did you forget what game you were playing lmao

>>97434666
>666
please SATAN let this be REAL.
personally don't mind u.b. except when it goes really really of the theme rails like TMNT + MARVEL, and this will only cause moar bitching and bullshit, esp if they dial up the D.E.I. and anti-coomer / attack on real women.
black Barbie confirmed.

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>friend: "I really think my deck could benefit from deflecting swat, but it costs so much
>"You could run return the favor or untimely malfunction as budget options."
>"Why would I want to run less effective cards?"
Still boggles my mind that people think like this still.

>>97435236
any deck that wants deflecting swat probably wants at least one of the less effective versions of deflecting swat too for consistency sake anyways

so why not get ahead of it

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>>97435207
I also thought it was just an eldraine thing because the title "Sir" seems to barely exist in magic's universe anyway. Pic is the only example I could even think of.

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>>97435191
>>97435280
Confused the shit out of me that pic related is a gingerbread woman

>>97435323
YWNBAGBW

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>>97435372
>YWNBAGBW
noice
yes i am olds balls, sorry my gatekeeping was ineffective

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>>97433766
she cute

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Speaking of Gonti, thoughts on this bitch?

>>97435434
proxie art > art direction of wizards of the woke.
also the captcha seemes to be trolling or broken.
pix unrelated

>>97435482
Its just some bitch looking up without an expression.
Your bar is incredibly low.

>>97435482
As much as I hate wotc, most of the art itself is really good when they aren't trying to ape some other style. The choices people outside of the artists themselves make, like purposefully making chaarcters ugly, is a downer though.

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>>97435236
return the favor has won me 3 games this last week alone.


>copy grapeshot storm trigger and redirect one of the counterspells
>copy rise of the dark realm and mine resolves first
>playing saruman the white
>opponent has impulsivity etb trigger, copy it and redirect his to farseek, I cast call forth the tempest into isengard unleashed and soul immolation (16+ power army)

>>97435030
>Ask what the other people at the table are doing with their deck beyond what their commander is
No, I'm going to pull up and we're going to play our decks.

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>>97435518
consider that, the bar is low and wotc still fucking can't reach it, gotta mutt-it-up.
slop
predditor

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>>97435445

>>97435546
This art relates more to the card than what was posted before. Think you are just a brain dead idiot.

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>>97435518
it's not some bitch it's C.C.

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>>97435564
These would probably work better if I cut the MTG boxes and pasted them on the union arena card

>>97433590
Do you guys think there’s a direct correlation between being poor, and lack of self control?

Every time poor people get their hands on proxies, they immediately make the highest level CEDH deck in casual pods.

Surely, there is some correlation between not being able to afford the cards, and the immediate degradation of character that happens when they become available.

I don't understand people who have more than 1 playmat. What are you doing with the others? Where do you even store them?

>>97435637
yes

>>97435637
>Do you guys think there’s a direct correlation between being poor, and lack of self control?
I mean obviously, yeah. Poor people and criminal all have bad impulse control, that's how they end up in the situations they're in.

>>97435645
One is for actual play. One is for putting cards on to make shitposts uploads with.

>>97435207
But the fem version of Sir is Dame.
And then lady for the spouse of a knight (Dame spouses traditionally get no title, but presumably it would be gentleman).

Syr's just not a thing outside of eldraine.

>>97435645
i have 9
i just drape them over my couch
different art for different vibes and color combos

>>97434563
This phenomenon is why I play Golgari decks more than any other color pair. The ability to have recurring resources in grave and self-mill as a form of pseudo-card selection means I get to see more cards than even the average blue deck, and topdecking a land rarely feels bad.

>>97435637
Yes, but the causation for both is being stupid, which is a key distinguishing feature.
I knew two different people IRL who dropped over $1000 on a Commander deck despite just starting the game, only to wonder why nobody wanted to play with them.

Big surprise, the problem is always Commander players being stupid. Anything else is missing the forest for the trees.

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>>97435612
based arts & craftsman

>>97435645
playing your esper deck on a green playmat is a fashion faux pas

>>97435637
nope see plenty of people with disposable income do the exact same thing. people who graduate college and still can't figure out how the rules of MTG work after years of playing.

>>97435542
As long as you don't assume anything about my deck.

>>97435696
>But the fem version of Sir is Dame.
Yeah? And? They're not naming things based on fucking reality you hyperautist. Dames aren't knights and WotC want a "genderneutral" title for a knight so they went with Syr.
>Syr's just not a thing outside of eldraine.
Literally the fucking basis of this conversation was someone posting a Syr card from EoE

>>97435729
If you had half a brain you might be able to infer that a character using the "Syr" title in EoE is probably someone from eldraine who got there from an omenpath

>>97435802
Vondam is not from Eldraine

>>97435802
>If you had half a brain you might be able to infer that a character using the "Syr" title in EoE is probably someone from eldraine who got there from an omenpath
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/the-legends-of-edge-of-eternities
Does this mean you have less than half a brain?

>>97434407
>>97434509
The Eternal Wanderer enters with enough loyalty to use her -4, making it reliable (just don't cast her until you need the board wipe).

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>>97435869
Also has a small cute smackable ass.
Really an underrated PW.

>>97433766
I use her in Zul Ashur. She's really good

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>>97433629
Of those the only one I was interested in was the Mimeoplasm. I just wish he exiled them with some kind of counter or something.

>>97433590
>We got 484 new commanders in 2025. Which one did you build?
Eggman
Jaws
Amazing Spider-Man

>>97435236
Some people can't see past high power cards so much they miss how versatile other similar cards can be. Even the ones that have other options to them. Especially with something like Return The Favor.

>>97435637
Not just correlation, direct causation.
As the old saying goes, "a fool and his money are soon parted."

You CAN be poor and not be an impulsive idiot. I come from a long line. We've been slowly climbing in social class the last two generations, but it's been an arduous tooth-and-nail climb, and honestly one i'm not sure i live up to the legacy of.

But even if you start with a silver spoon in your mouth, if you're an impulsive idiot the path to dirt poor is a fast and easy one. You see it play out basically every time someone wins the lottery. Only impulsive idiots play the lottery, anyone with sense knows the game is rigged against you and you're just throwing money away. And what happens when they win the multimillons, enough to live on for several modest lifetimes? It's all gone in a couple years. Not all rectangles are squares, but all squares are certainly rectangles.

There is a breakpoint though. If someone gets rich enough they have smart people to make most of their decisions for them then as long as they don't pick someone malicious as one of their smart people and at least have the sense to let the smart people do their job, they'll stay rich.

But it's only a cushioning effect, the truly stupid will go "Well of course i'm smart, i'm rich," ignore all of their smart advisors, fire their smart delegates and replace them with fellow idiots or no one, and ruin the empire their grandfather made. The bigger the empire the more it takes to destroy it, but nothing is ever actually too big to fail, you just need enough idiocy over enough positions and time.

>>97435645
I have ten and lend some out to friends, use some as desk mats, and rotate through them based on mood

>>97435645
You have two or more mats with art you like and you want to swap every now and then?

>>97435934
>Eggman
How did you build your Eggman? I can't find the balance between discard and robots.

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Chat, should I open it? Also have another box on the way.

>>97436043
Stick it up your ass and post a pic with timestamp

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>>97433590
>TQ
I messed around with these three. Kraven is primarily fight spells. I like the idea of the deck but it needs some work to really balance things. Jameson is mostly just a pile of menace stuff with extra combat spells. Very direct and simple. Not much else to it but I like it for lowered powered tables. Shadow is primarily token makers that have their tokens die at end of turn and hasted stuff. Haven't really worked on it more than some initial diving through my bulk. They're all mostly in a in progress state and I'm not sure how much investment I want to put into them beyond that. There hasn't been anything else I was interested from 2025.

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>>97436037
This probably isn't up to date

>>97436043
cum tribute

>>97436043
Open it and then if you get a sexy Oko you have to cum tribute it.

>>97436037
run the blue hedgehog from unfinity and all alliterative cards. how's your youtube poop impression?

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>buy card I need for a deck yesterday, $5
>mfw found it today in the bulk
fuck
its a dragon card too so i wont use this extra copy for anything

>>97436116
trade binder.

>>97436116
>>97436150
Hold onto it, you never know when you're gonna want it again.
As someone who only got into the game a few years ago, my biggest regret is selling off cards I thought I wouldn't need.
You don't even know when that random fucking bulk common is going to have the perfect stats and effect to do something crazy with a new card.

>you're going to lose if you do that
>don't backseat game me anon!
>*loses*
>wtf how could this happen?
Why is this such a common occurrence? How do you stop it?

>>97436182
you don't, just accept that players are retards

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its weird how some cards are just entirely missing parts of their text

>>97436182
>>97436204
this.
there's fixing ignorant. they just need to learn.
there's fixing mentally disabled/slow. they just need more time to learn.
there's no fixing stupid. they don't want to learn. horses to water, pearls before swine.

>>97436290
it has uses
https://moxfield.com/decks/xoiRaszcykWMyQn9M3cTgg
just not in EDH.

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Why the fuck is JLK playing fucking Muster the Departed in Ashling the Limitless instead of pic related?
>yeah bro let me play this 3 mana white enchantment that populates 1 at end step instead of this 3 mana white enchantment that copies every token of mine that entered this turn

>>97435482
>proxyfag
>"woke"
>broken english
need a bingo card at this point

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>>97436316
where's the rest of the deck

>>97436317
Probably because he's a really dumb and stupid retard as opposed to you, a smart and capable person of great acclaim.

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>>97433590
TQ: I built this Kilo proliferate/infect deck!

>watch Game Knights
>11 fucking minutes of ads

>>97435546
Ah, it's a brown ESL, that explains the seething.

>>97436440
Ah, it's a brown ESL in charge of art direction and quality control at wotc, that would explain the seething.

you almost had it anon.

>>97436354
Is it unacceptable to have a Rebecca playmat?

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>>97436492
99% of rebecca art appears to be a nsfw loli

>>97436497
Because she is a nsfw loli

>>97436290
I use it in my Azami deck. Sometimes I'll actually play it to draw a card instead of cycling it. Very rarely tho.

Most fun Grixis commander? I can never make these colors work. Outside of Sauron

>>97436675
Azula
Inalla if your down with classics

>>97433590
In commander, can players discuss which type of card they're discarding so you draw less cards?

>>97436734
sure

>>97433985
Does this count as BW when building your commander deck? Sorry I'm new

>>97436734
the only reason why you wouldn't is the kefka player gets mad (nobody cares about that)

>>97436734
it's why prisoner's dilemma is an awful card

>>>97436675
Obeka, either one, and Ashnod. Everything else is boring and gay.

>>97436742
yes

>>97436675
I have three, Obeka, Obeka 2, and Azula. Obeka 1 is my favorite of the three as it's really open ended. Warp, Evoke, big creatures with bad ETBs, clones, and bounce lands all work with it. Obeka 2 is less interesting than I thought it would be, but still fairly enjoyable to play even if it ends up feeling like a combo deck. Azula I have not had a chance to play yet but I have her built with pump spells and fling abilities to try and make her big, do 21 commander damage and then fling her body at someone else.

Grixis players always act like they're 200 IQ players, but in reality are tryhard idiots who pilot their decks incorrectly

>xhe unironically uses the word grixis

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Building any new decks?

>>97436498
she's not a loli she's like 25.
the proper term is petite.
for that matter, she's got some hips, so flat shortstack is probably the most accurate description.

>>97437040
This feels like it contradicts >>97436497

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>>97437058
I said appears.

>>97437040
she is a loli
if Kanna Kamui and Shuten Doujis are lolis (they are), then Rebecca is also a loli

>>97437040
You niggas love jerking it to cartoon children until someone outside your sphere sees you and asks "isn't that a child?" and then you're all "muh thousand year old vampire!!!!!!!"
You wouldn't come up with these copes if you were alone with your fellow pedos

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>>97436946

>>97437111
>>97437097
>>97437040
she is not a loli, she's of age
she is a loli, she's intentionally designed in that vein of character archetype as stated by the animation studio

>>97437122
Cartoons can't have ages, they only have their appearance.

>>97436915
Do you have decklist I can look at for the first Obeka?

>>97437097
no one thinks shuten is a loli just because she's small. kanna kamui is still prepubescent.
you freaks always tell on yourselves.

>>97437122
No one cares about the fake story about trigger

>>97437111
God I hate Australia.

>>97433899
>tainted sigil
>leyline prowler
Comfy list

>>97437141
Shuten Douji is widely considered a loli.
Kanna Kamui is thicker (wide hips, thick thighs) than Rebecca and she is very obviously a loli.
Rebecca is a loli.

>>97437166
I don't consider her a loli

>>97437124
cartoons aren't even real people

>>97437169
If you jerked it to cartoon women, I'd think you were probably straight. If you jerked it to cartoon men I'd think you were probably gay. If you jerk it to cartoon children...

>>97437168
But Kanna Kamui is very obviously a loli, though.
This is basically undeniable.
>>97437178
Lolis almost always have a bunch of characteristics that puts them significantly apart from real life prepubescent girls, both due to their nature as idealized and stylized figures and due to their appeal drawing mainly people who are not real pedophiles (unless you are a retard who thinks Japan has like orders of magnitude more pedophiles than anywhere on the world)

>>97435612
would something like this be tournament legal as long as it weighs the same on a scale?

>>97437166
ive met real life women build like rebecca and shuten douji.

>>97437178
but enough about you running over people in GTA5 and removing creatures in mtg, mass murderer

>>97437185
You wouldnt have to come up with these copes if you just didn't jerk it to cartoon children

>>97437190
yeah, there are women who are very neotenous even as adults

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>>97437189
depends on the tournament and who cares? just do it

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>>97437196
and you wouldn't be so mad if mtg wasn't putting cartoon children in mtg
>inb4 UB melty

>>97437205
i'm wondering if i could get away with it in standard
because if so it'd definitely be worth throwing my opponent off their game to cut up a netdeck and glue it onto furry diaper fetish art meticulously weighed to the milligram

>>97437208
this is what I am talking about
which deck would let me lolify most of my cards?
no custom proxies ofc

>>97437190
shuten is based off her VA, drawn as same height and weight

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>>97437217
it'll take a while, but eventually a GW loli deck will be possible

>>97437217
something something, if you like goblins, you're just a pedo, something something.
so goblins.

>>97437226
>zero (0) femininity to either except the slightest of hip/torso shaping on toph so as to not be comically rectangular
wotc and that artist REALLY did not want the smoke
kinda funny desu

>>97437234
it gets funnier the longer you look, the towel on katara is nearly a straight vertical line

>>97437194
>the "but enough about..." guy is a pedo
Lmao can't say I'm at all surprised.
The difference is people aren't running down NPCs in GTA5 for sexual gratification. In fact if someone was jerking off to running down NPCs in GTA5 people would think that was pretty fucked up.

>>97437226
>>97437234
>>97437239
Don't even know why they had to choose that scene. I guess maybe because it's not very magical if they're not bending an element in the card art? But they could have taken something else from that vignette like them walking together after getting their makeup done

>>97437194
>doing these things in the context of a game is exactly the same as you being sexually aroused to depictions of children.
You are running people over in a video game because it is part of the game, you are jerking of to children because you find children sexually attractive and the only thing preventing you from doing it to actual children is because it is illegal.
Lets not pretend otherwise.

>>97437276
yeah idk seems like just asking for a weird article to be written about it by one of the various factions who just can't seem to leave the witchhunting and line debating to paid law enforcement professionals
at least i understand why the uh... enthusiasts? are nervous, a van team could kick down their door any day over an obscenity law or whatever. it's the obsession of the "so creepy to comment on her pixels bro" crowd that really makes you think. whose safety are they defending, especially over the internet?

>>97437304
>it's the obsession of the "so creepy to comment on her pixels bro" crowd that really makes you think. whose safety are they defending, especially over the internet?
Overwhelmingly when pedos get their harddrives searched theres gigabytes of underaged "pixels" on there too.

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>>97437273
>The difference is people aren't running down NPCs in GTA5 for sexual gratification
actually the difference is that people are running down NPCs in GTA5 to feed their psychopathy (dark triad), but nobody is weired by it because at the end of the day a game isn't reality
In fact if you specifically said that Japan is nothing but a country of pedos everyone would laugh at you, that's why you don't :)
>>97437281
reminder that you actually can finish GTA5 without running over innocent civilians and you partaking in it is proof that you are socially deviant and the only thing preventing you from doing it to actual people is because it is illegal.
Lets not pretend otherwise,

>>97437318
>underaged pixels
you really typed this with a straight face and think its an own of some kind
there's probably also a word processor on their computer, retard

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this triggers the schizo

>>97437325
>actually the difference is that people are running down NPCs in GTA5 to feed their psychopathy (dark triad),
[citation needed]
>In fact if you specifically said that Japan is nothing but a country of pedos everyone would laugh at you, that's why you don't :)
Nothing but? No. But Japan's underaged brothels have been subject to international criticism. Don't tend to hear about Western countries having those sooooo

>>97437326
on top of that, while i refuse to get dragged into some extended debate i don't care at all about except insofar as the internet has just become a stupider, more polarized place in the last 20 years, but lets also not pretend that the source of those stats is specious at best given the incentives at play
a totally innocuous picture of a gnome from WoW is getting counted as underaged pixels by the feds, who have a vested interest in keeping their conviction rate and the appearance of such as high as possible

anyway, i just came to laugh at you and scan the thread for morcant lists, cya nerds

>>97437331
man I love that art, its so cute

>>97437331
They're not children, Just like how goblins are not children.
Like saying you're a pedo because you are dating a midget.
You know this difference but yet are still using it to defend your pedophilia.

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>>97437334
>still can't say that japan is a country of pedos
kekw concession accepted
anyways, i target the little girl with savage smash

>>97437342
>Like saying you're a pedo because you are dating a midget
I would suspect something is wrong if you're attracted to midgets, yeah.

>>97437338
isn't specious at best**

>>97437331
unfortunately its not just a lone schizo, and a good number of gen z'ers have been corpo-trained into a weird paranoia about any nonstationary object shorter than 6 foot

>>97437348
How confident are you that if your hard drives were searched that you would face no criminal charge?

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>>97437353
/vt/ says hi

>>97437354
I agree, at least half of /vt/ would thermite their hard drives rather than let them be inspected

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>>97437358
reminder that /vt/ is archived, schizo

>>97437331
she cute (cute)

are changlings artifacts?

>friends want to play some bracket 4 games
>look at making a b4 deck
>already terminally bored just theory crafting this shit

I genuinely don't understand how some of you actually like gamechangers and combofaggotry and mld durdling

>>97437360
>pedophiles use vt
>this means pedophiles post illegal content to vt
I mean, I'm sure they do, but you're deliberately misconstruing the point.

The problem with you pedos is that you get so excited with this gaslighting shit because you feel you're getting away with something.
You know you're admitting to being a pedophile and that no matter how much they may want to, no one can touch you.
One day the feds will kick in your door and you will be held to account for your crimes, you won't be laughing then.

>>97437366
No Artifact is a super type and not a creature type.

>>97437367
people base their entire personality around winning a social format.

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>>97437373
>the schizo can't even take shots at /vt/
thanks for admitting there's nothing wrong with cartoons btw

>>97437353
entirely certain, the worst thing you could pull is some thumbnail from getting bored and scrolling /e/ or /aco/ in addition to some other boards i occasionally visit, the only issue with which would be tripping a vaguely defined obscenity law and an independently incentivized prosecutor/DA
your bogeymen exist largely in your head and are a distraction from real monsters preying on real children in the real world

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>>97437375
mtg is a pvp game, therefore i will play to win

>>97436043
Cum tribute anon.

>>97437388
there's only one game and it's making people like you more than they did before you got financial benefit out of them

>The tifa spammer
>The threads biggest UB shill
>Is a pedo
Cant say I'm in the least bit surprised

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>>97437400
uh oh UB melty

>>97437388
I rather have fun than win when there's nothing else to gain.

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Commander for this feel?
She is an adult woman, btw.

>>97437405
if you really were a "happy to be here" casual you'd let the sweat win so that everyone's happy
>but i don't want to be a punching bag
but ofc, because you want to win whether you admit it or not

>>97437412
what a very sad world you live in if you think personal fun comes at everyone else's sense of fun
or you just suck at strawmanning, you may pick.

>>97437388
6 mana to do 6 damage or 3 damage is such a bad rate these days.

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>>97437418
>what a very sad world you live in if you think personal fun comes at everyone else's sense of fun
>obv my sense of fun is everyone's sense of fun duh everyone thinks just like me
i know your kind, your desire to win will always come out no matter how casual you claim to be, a dime a dozen

>>97437427
This anon is an outed pedophile btw

just discuss or at least attempt to gauge the power level of the pod you are in ffs
it really is not that hard
and play to win, don't be a faggot
not doing so sours it for you and everyone else if they find out

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>>97437421
old cards like kamahl and kilnmouth desperately want vigilance and haste

>>97437367
they're noobs and overplayed lines are still novel to them. usually they're also stupid so it's going to take them a very long time to realize how monotonous and predetermined the lines are.

>>97437430
Ok schizo kekw

what a fucking thread
just prune it and start over

>>97437448
I blame /v/

>>97437448
>>97437452
Reminder tranny jannies are literally in on it.
Can't talk about influencers who are literally paid by Wizards to talk about the game, can't talk about the politics of the people who make the game, but the guy who has been shitposting in these threads for literal months can post lolis and vtubers and nothing happens to him.

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>TQ
Built him as mono-red clues.

>>97437427
thats cool, I'm not interested in you boogeyman
My desire to win a social game is superseded by my desire to be entertained, otherwise I'd just build the top meta standard deck and go play in that format.

>>97437141
>>97437166
Kanna also was like, fully prepared to lesbian statutory rape an 8 year old classmate that made it obvious she was interested, and only didn't because they were interrupted.

sometimes being a 7000 year old dragon matters.

>>97437461
NTA
but I think both should be allowed, provided it made sense in context (like in this case)
being an overly strictly on topic faggot is fake and gay
it shows a lack of understandig of human communication

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>>97437471
>my desire to be entertained
you're not owed entertainment
you want a game that goes exactly as you want it? fight for it, we're not going to just lay down and give it to you

>>97437461
Fuck off.

>>97437480
Ick.

>>97437469
List
Now

The only thing that will save this thread is if anon delivers on the cum tribute to the Lorwyn collector booster box.

>>97437401
she cute cute

>>97437480
You're strawman-fu is weak
I just said I make my own entertainment over winning. keep up next time, young grasshopper.

>>97437503
Don't be gay

>>97437518
>I just said I make my own entertainment
if you could then you wouldn't be crying over people wanting to win what is basically a smash game, cardboard edition

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>>97437529
But WOTC wants me to be

>>97437547
All I did was mock people who base their entire personality around winning at commander. But I seem to have struck a nerve in you, and now you are wildly projecting your insecurities onto me.

>>97437561
>But I seem to have struck a nerve in you
it's fine if you can't understand or appreciate cedh combo lines, but you don't have to be salty about it lol

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>TQ
Well, if we are talking from scratch, then Exdeath is the only 2025 Commander that I built.

>>97437569
So are you just bad at baiting, or genuinely upset I indirectly insulted you? You may pick.

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>>97436043
>>97436089
>>97436056
>>97436095
>>97437396
I opened it up. I didn't get the serialized Bitterbloom, or even any Bitterbloom, like I wanted, but I did get a few nice cards. Two Oko's too, but only one foil. The two cards middle left won't scan into my app. Overall the rares + mythics I pulled are worth $586.58. Well worth the box price!

>>97437576
>sexy Oko
You know what you must do

>>97437575
>oh no, i got insulted in an anonymous board (picks up my 7th win of the night), whatever will i do...

>>97437579
>>sexy Oko
>You know what you must do

Trade it for something I want?

>>97437576
Ok now cum tribute the hot Oko

>>97437584
Haha I'm laughing at you rn! Keep coping and seething HAHA!

>>97437584
Ooh, you really are seething. well, enjoy your wins, its all you can cling to.

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>>97437592
>>97437595
>i get all the wins
>my opponents get their "moral" victories
>you'd think it's a fair transaction
>and yet somehow they're still angry
kek every time

>>97437585
No
>>97437591
>>97436095
>>97436089

>>97437571
why doesn't he have the type treefolk TRUTH NUKE

>>97437603
hey man, I said enjoy your wins, you don't need to keep projecting your rage.

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I wish she was a legendary.

>>97437629
Believe me i am, just like how I'm savoring my win over (You)

>>97437607
You'sa busta

>>97437635
Why do people say this is a bad card? I've played it long ago in a hyper optimized deck and it is a must answer card.

>>97437638
oh that might be your best bait yet. But as I don't care about winning like you do, enjoy.

>>97437648
You sure are sweating real hard to get the last word though bwahaha

>>97437654
Didn't know you were that desperate to win these as well. Go ahead then.

>>97437643
It's a bad card just like elvish piper is

>>97437661
I'll take my win as always!

>>97437663
Elvish piper is good because she is the spirit of the format, and is a certified bomb-dropper.

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>>97437668
Rhystic Study is the spirit of the format

>>97437673
rhystic study was merely adopted into the format

>>97437673
I totally disagree. It's not a bombastic card, and it only is so good because it scales well with a multiplayer format. It's a card where if something was made like it recently it would either be banned or instantly groaned and derided by the community.

>>97437643
>5c
>no haste
>has to connect
It's a very slow card. You have to have 5 colors on board, a Sol Ring is useless to you unless you have something like Cascading Cataracts or something. There's going to be a whole rotation when it comes down before it can swing so it's essentially a 5c do-nothing until next turn. And you have to connect to get the trigger which is just an extra hoop to jump through, any flying blockers and it's another wasted turn.

Even if it was legendary this card could only have been good like 15 years ago.
I mean compare it to Kaalia of the Vast. Okay she doesn't let you cast spells, but she costs 4 mana in 3 colors, puts any one of 3 very powerful creature types onto the board for free, and they enter attacking meaning funnily enough if Kaalia was 5 colors Maelstrom Archangel would actually be worth playing with her lol.

>>97437643
>>97437687
Oh yeah and Kaalia is on attack not contact

>>97437685
Blame sheldon for having rhystic as his pet card and banning an actual bombastic card like primetime instead
>primetime will be a GC btw

>>97437692
cope