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Ascension Edition

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>last thread
>>97427205


>Thread Question
Pitch me your 5th edition starter box. Factions, lore behind the box and units. It has to sell.
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>TQ
Order v Order
Tyrion's attack on Ulgu.
Starter is a bunch of Vanari units (+maybe the River mage) vs whatever the fuck Malarion's forces are.
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Official realm tier list in regards to how much gw gives a shit:
>S tier
Aqshy, Ghyran
>A tier
Ghur, Shyish
>B tier
Hysh
>C tier
Ulgu, Chamon
>quantum superposition occupying both S and C
Azyr
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>>97435493
THAT WOULD BE FUCKING BASED!!!!!!
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>>97435467
OBR vs FEC
Death Civil War
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>>97435467
>TQ
Nature vs Industy
Kurnothi vs Helsmiths.
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>>97435553
And we could call the box Feast of Bon... oh.. oh yeh
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>>97435553
They did this during Broken Realms.
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>>97435587
Ironically it wasn't against the FEC box, but agaisnt another group of Hysh FEC we never realy saw
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>>97435599
The FEC box featured the Bright Emperor, the flashpoint battle featured one of his vassals.
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>>97435467
>tq
Not my ideal box or anything (that'd be some schizo shit like idoneth vs gloomspite or whatever) but realistically they're probably going to refresh the remaining fatcast. With that in mind, stormcast half will be something like:
>lord celestant on dracoth
>2 dracoth cav
>10 vanguard hunters
>3 vanguard ranged dudes
>3 or 4 random heroes (maybe remade heraldor or venator)
>maybe some extra birds thrown in for good measure
As for the faction opposing them we don't really have much to go off of aside from literally the one post on here saying "vampire coast without the vampires", which has 0 credibility but does seem reasonable although personally I feel like vcoast fits tow better, though I don't know if they feel the same about that lol
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>>97435467
4th edition end with the Siege of Azyr where the chorfs manage to break into Sigmars realm along with Archeon and his entourage.

The "broken realms" ting leading up to the siege has all other Order armies fighting on other fronts against other threats.

When the helsmiths break through its shown that Sigmar is alone and stretched thin on troops, things are looking grim, when Malerion and his shadow elves show up and help them out.

Box is Helsmiths vs Shadow elves. Speed vs thoughness in the box with defensive units and warmachines for HoH and speedy units, cav and other, fpr the elves.
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I feel like even if they were going to introduce vampire pirates, they would be subtle about it and no one would really bat an eye. Personally I think crabs and other crustaceans should go to idk, but one flavor of the existing undead should definitely toat some black powder stuff. The mecha ships would be an eyesore and more than likely a hindrance tho, idk what else im missing from them.i guess fec could unironically use a named character with more prominence beyond a beast keeper. One with clothes ideally.
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>>97435467
Well presuming the order of opponents continue (order vs chaos>Death>Destruction>Chaos..)
It should be Death next time.

OBR just got a new wave, which kinda makes them unlikely. Nighthaunt had 2e, so not them. FEC got a new wave and revamp sorta late as well, and the same goes for soulblight.

So I think its time for Nagash to create a new army, or if there comes a "non-nagash" death army.
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>>97435629
>>97435681

There could be a marine themed death army, since we know Nagash only recently learned that the soul thieving IDK existed on the sea floor, so now he has a reason to create something that could take the fight to them.
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>5th edition reveal show
>stormcast again, boring
>I wonder who they'll be facing off against?
>it really is coastal undead
>mfw they're a nighthaunt subfaction
How do you react?
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>>97435692
Best case scenario will be legions of nagash to come back and all 4 of them get some new stuff at once.
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>>97435705
I’d have mixed feelings on it because it would deny Nighthaunt a potential avenue to branch into but I would be lying if I said I wouldn’t buy into it.
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>>97435705
pirates are always cool so i'm down
that said if there's any undead pirate shit going on, there needs to be a necrofex colossus of some variety
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TQ
Shadow War
Forces of Malerion vs Spiderfang grots
Takes place in ulgu
Tribes that worship the skitterstrands are sieging the settlements surrounding a key realm gate and have called for skragrotts help to reinforce them against the forces of Malerion.
>spiderfang
×10 spider riders
x20 Stabbas (mixed between hand weapons and spears, moonclan flavour)
x10 shootas(they're scuttlings now, split between blowguns and bows, spiderfang flavour)
x3 nasty skulkers(moonclan flavour)
x1 nasty skulker character
x1grot scuttling shoota character
x1 loonboss on foot with spear
x1 scuttleboss on giant spider
x2 medium monstrous spider cav
x1 spider troll with 8 arms(dankhold sized)

>malerions forces
I dunno anything about elves someone fill in the blanks. I'm going off the model counts for skaventide of 50 for the horde army and 24 for the elite army
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>>97435764
>spiderfang grots
I think you missed the "it has to sell" part of the prompt.
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An order vs Renegade Stormcast.

As the truth about the horror of reforging and the lack of a cure spreads among the rank of stormcast, many become disillusioned with Sigmar and the fate he has bestown upon them.
Instead they seek out Nagash to grant them true death by having him take their souls from Sigmar.
Nagash of course agrees and takes them and turn them into various undead units, connected to nighthaunt.

There will be lightning gheists, created from their sigmar infused souls, "dullahan style" (un)living armors etc.

Later in the edition the other Death faction can get new elite units using stormcast material as the explanation as to where it comes from.
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>>97435780
They were part of one of the best selling starters of all time but alright anon
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>>97435705
If they deliver on the models and make them good looking ghost/skeleton pirates, then I'm thrilled. Nighthaunts is the single most one note army in the entire game, narrowly beating out fyre slayers. Adding pirate would give them much needed variety and make them way more appealing to play as or against. The current aesthetic the Vampire Coast has in WHFB fits the mixed arms of SBG way better, but as long as the models are good I don't really care.
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>>97435792
They were in Leviathan?
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Now that the dust has settled, why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?
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>>97435821
Why are cancucks so obsessed?
Maybe you could do with becoming our 51-53 states
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>>97435821
their hats weren't tall enough
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>>97435821
likely because of the cultural insensitivity, mocking Indians in the current year is a generally bad move, Indians will cause your entire business to go broke if you disrespected Shiva like GW did with the Shitsmiths of Hashit
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Soulblight pirates would just be Vikings.
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>>97435914
If CoS can have guns, then Vampires can have guns.
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>>97435904
go finish your tww campaign, these piss poor attempts are shitposting are just sad at this point
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>>97435467
>>Thread Question
following the pattern, the next grand alliance to go on the starter as enemy faction is death again, and, still following the pattern, stormcasts would have to be in the box yet again, as they always had and always will

so I'm pitching frankenstein zombies vs beggars' crusade
>20 arcwalkers: zombies with a patchwork of mismatched limbs and electric machinery
>4 limbs swarms: bases of refuses from the laboratories, hands, heads and torsos crawling on the ground
>3 patchworgors: your classical hulking frankenstein monsters, but they were ogres once, with bits of minotaurs and trolls and stuff here and there
>1 flesh golem: giant sized and barely humanoid amalgamation of bodies stitched together, take back the necrofex colossus from the secondaries
>1 necrarch on dread abyssal: emphasis on making the vampire a scientist and the abyssal a mishmash of different monsters cut apart and put back together (wings are closed so it stays a relatively small miniature)
>1 necromancer: classical, but with a focus on a staff with a dissected homunuculus crucified on it, as well as "scientific"-looking books, scrolls and vials
>5 ygor assistants: humanoid familiars in plague masks, goggles, and heavy lab coats wielding electric goads and carrying various saws and surgical tools and alchemical bombs and lab equipments on their hunched backs
>1 hound: token for the ygors, it's a small dog with 3 heads, but all parts come from humans, not dogs
>1 sew mistress: a herald of the new mortarch, the lady of all flesh, this herald is a golem of flesh sewn together that ends up looking literally like a skeksis (mirroring the silhouette of the assistants and the beaked face of the abyssal), but at times you can't tell what's the flesh making up her body and what's just her pompous dress, her multiple arms are sewing together skin that's getting ripped off a still screaming body on her base
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>>97435681
Pirate Skeletons would make me make poor financial decisions
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>>97435956
>20 scrap knights: human mortals that follow around the stormcasts and try their best to impress sigmar to be recruited as new stormcasts, their equipment and masks are crude imitations of a stormcast made with scraps. have flagellant vibes, but are otherwise nowhere as pathetic
>1 neverchosen: hero of the mortals, he failed to die on the battlefield multiple times, perhaps because he's too strong, perhaps because fate has other plans, he's been struck by lightning a few times as well
>1 lone wanderer: the anti-version of a questor, he has no (known) grand mission assigned by sigmar, he's just a mentally broken stormcast, allowed to travel on his own for whatever he thinks he has to do to mend himself, his armour is incomplete and with most iconography ruined, he has a big fuckoff sword
>1 knight elegist: an unlikely combination of stormcast and storytelling bard, whose purpose is remembering the tales of the stormcasts and the stormhosts, to inspire people, make other stormcasts remember their own selves (and tease felix)
>2 drakehosts: some stormcasts in the extremis chamber who start showing too many reforging flaws may receive help from the stardrakes who will share their own essence with them to "fill their gaps", the result is practically (big) stormcast dragonborn, their mind is a fusion of the stormcast with one of the stardrake that resides in high azyr, or with dracothion himself, making them sometimes act and talk in creepy unity
>3 ruination priests: what happens when a sacrosanct reaches the bleak citadel, they bind themselves as lightning gheists inside their own armours and keep guiding the other stormcasts until the end, they look like stormcast ringwraiths or diablo angels
>1 lightning gheist: partially ethereal and unformed angelic stormcast, bound by chains and scrolls, see max fitzgerald's concept
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>>97435956
As a fan of Dr McMourning I would buy this, probably several times over.
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I finished the first 10 Deathrattle out of the Spearhead but I don’t want to take a picture and brag about it until the weather clears up enough to let me varnish them. I feel like I’m not very fast painting them, I can only hope things get quicker after the second half of Deathrattle.
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>>97436138
Are you painting in batches or doing one full model at a time? Personally I find doing batch painting where you do all of one color for each model, then the next and so on until you end on fine detail helps speed up the process.
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>>97436152
I started batch painting partway through, it wasn’t so bad, but it also wasn’t ten at once at that point (batch painting Marines that way was a terrible experience). Was thinking of batch painting, but simply doing smaller batches.
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>>97436185
this is generally what i do, batch painting of 3-5 at a time with some slight changes to the colors can make the unit a bit more varied and interesting (as someone who still has like, 14 clanrats to go i feel your pain)

looking forward to seeing you post pictures anon, always cool seeing people's minis
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>>97435467
Death vs Chaos
Helsmiths attempting to raid a Dwarven Afterlife, vs Bonereapers going to harvest the soulstuff.

Ranged Infantry for Dwarf units, slave units as their frontline, while Bonereapers get Monster Focus.
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>>97435553
>Bone collectors not fighting Deathrattles
Why would you do the wrong thing?
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>>97436138
Skeletons despite being simple can be time consuming because of the way they have bone layered/wrapped up in so many different materials. I think the best method is hitting all the other materials first and then the bone last. Old skeletons were easier to get away with drybrushing your bone first, but the new ones have way more fabric and details to do besides the bone
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Don't know about selling, but I want Blades of Khorne vs Vampires.
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>>97436589
It was a thing.
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>>97436658
Cool. Will have to find it.
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>>97435493
sex
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>>97435467
>TQ
IDK vs KO
Keelhauled. Aetherseized.
A battle in the sky for rare soul infused resources that make excellent fuel but also could be the salvation of the Namarti.
New sky whale transport against a giant harpoon boat and lots of little mounted units flying around.
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Was sub-dividing Death into specific factions based on types of undead a mistake? It worked out great for FEC and OBR are obviously their own whole thing. But Nighthaunt is just a shit ton of bedsheet ghosts with different looks and Soulblight is basically just basic skeletons, zombies, and a fuck load of vampires.
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>sky whale vs flying harpoon fishing boat
I'll take 5
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>>97436926
>SBG is the basic soup faction that lets you run a litte of everything
>it's far and away the most popular death faction
I don't think it was a good idea.
>It worked out great for FEC and OBR
did it? FEC is mostly ugly ghoul models with maybe 3 recent standout sculpts. Thematically they're great but GW has mostly failed to actually show their them in the designs. OBR is a similair situation. The entire faction is based on the idea of building new warriors and war machines from the ground up and it's still a mostly pretty vanilla, basic army of dead soldiers with slightly thicker bones. It's not so much the subfactions are terrible ideas, GW just refuses to really make the unique and thematic designs that would fit the factions and look good. Except for nighthaunt, outside of dipping into other culture's ghost designs, I have no idea how you flesh out that faction.
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>>97436731
Both are currently available from the webstore as askurgan trueblades and claws of karanak. You aren't really missing out on the terrain by buying it seperate, it's pretty simple and uninteresting, super playable but not anything exciting
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Age of Sigmar
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>>97437266
Correct, you are in the age of sigmar thread. Do you need someone to call your parents, are you lost?
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>>97437288
I just really like that title.
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>>97437266
Age of Slaanesh
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Got a shit ton of vanari loomie boxes as a trade. What nation should I go with. Also I find that I like the stuipd cows the more time goes on.
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>>97437651
Personally I think they look good in metallics, either classic high elf silver and blue or bronze age polished bronze metal armor
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>>97436926
I think only nighthaunt is really struggling with the one-note thing, and it's not like they're an unpopular army either. I also wouldn't say obr got split off, I know morghast existed but other than that they're basically an entirely separate army in my eyes.
>>97437651
You know how in the recent reveal stream they showed two lumineth builds, one in the basic bitch colour scheme and the other in purple? Whatever that second one is. Syar maybe?
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>>97437651
Based sexcow enjoyer
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>>97436813
>idoneth vs kharadron
This starter set would sell like shit but I would buy the fuck out of it
>New sky whale transport against a giant harpoon boat
Makes me think, what's the largest model they ever put in a starter box? For aos it's probably the warpblaster or the gryph-stalker, in warhammer as a whole maybe the hellbrute from 6th (?) edition 40k? There's probably a rhino or something in one of the older 40k boxes if I had to guess.
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>>97437927
This thing or the Warpblaster. The necron war of the world things are really tall too
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>>97437949
True, forgot about them. Yndrasta also has a pretty big silhouette now that I think about it, but just considering volume she's not as big as some of those.
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>>97437977
>>97437949
those and yndrasta are all about the same size as "lord whatever on gryph-thing" they've been putting in the starter sets forever too
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Post models.
The amount of Plague Bearer or Plague Bearer-coded models you need to paint to play Maggotkin is maddening :(
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>>97438153
No, I'm too tired. Just spent 2 days at CanCon and am now drunk
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>>97438153
>post models
Forgive my boxposting but I finally got my hand on one of these useless upgrade sprues for dirt cheap secondhand. Going to see if I can make some bluestuff moulds or whatever to get some more mileage out of them, it's mostly just shields anyway. Anyone know if sacrosanct stormies have the same shoulderpads as normal fatcast? Wondering if they fit.
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Alright, show of hands, how many of you have seen at least one guy hanging around a warhammer tournament scene with this specific body type? Usually as organiser or friends with the organisers?
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serious why are the novels so bad? Its like reading spacemarines in a fantasy setting. What are they going for exactly
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>>97438405
>What are they going for exactly
spacemarines in a fantasy setting

still end up being better than spacemarines in 40k though
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>>97438390
I don't go to tournaments so I can't attest to that but I will say surprisngly none of the warhammer regulars at my lgs really conform to the fa/tg/uy stereotype. Tcg players on the other hand...
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Surely next weekend will have LRL and/or DoT preorders.
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>>97438390
I remember that 40k guy who looked like GUO
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>>97438405
I dunno, some of the AoS novels are pretty fucking good. Better than the 40k stuff I've read.
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>>97438294
>No, I'm too tired. Just spent 2 days at CanCon and am now drunk
Just say you don't have models and move on.
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>>97438390

legitimately saw an Old world player with that build at my lgs.
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>>97438405
ive heard theyre generally decent desu

ive only read mortarch of blood and yndrasta

both fine reads
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>>97438334
They fit, you'll be able to slap them on with no issue, I've swapped 1st gen and sacrosanct stormcast pauldrons without issues.

By the way, any anon's got a pdf copy of this bad boy ?
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>>97438416
>>97438647
What's the AoS equivalent of Eisenhorn?
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>>97438705
Cheers anon, appreciate it.
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>>97438705
I too am looking for this, and ravaged coast
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>>97438705
>>97438790
https://gofile.io/d/OlRUOq
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>>97438832
A god among mortals
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>>97438832
Why would SCE fight CoS?
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>>97438832
dolphin vagina... really dude? you're sick
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>>97438866
That image in particular is editied, but if you really need a fluff reason then the main answer is always going to be manipulated by chaos on the internal/external level for the cos side, maybe externally for sce.

Or the city in particular is lorded over by a manipulative vampire, or just a general dick.
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>>97438866
both dawnbrinter crusades and stormcast military interventions can spring from vague prophetic messages, sigmar is too distant and has to manage too many things at once to swoop down and give proper and clear directions. so if a stormhost is tasked to cordon an area and a crusade is set to venture to an area past that cordon, an excess of zealotry from both sides can result in a battle, and I'd imagine that pragmatic mortals may not feel too guilty about killing stormcasts with the assurance that for them death is only a temporary inconvenience, assuming they can get past the taboo of fighting sigmar's chosen.

alternatively, it wouldn't be the first time stormcasts have had to purge innocents to avoid the spread of a subtle contamination.
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>>97438832
I kneel
>>97438866
Look closer anon. But you could easily come up with some scenarios. Off the top of my head, the celestial vindicators keep periodically purging vindicarum because they're extremely autistic about even a hint of corruption, you can easily imagine the local militia taking up arms. Maybe a dawnbringer crusade gets hijacked/direcred by nefarious characters, like the irl childrens crusade or even the fourth, and stormies intervene. Or maybe some dawnbringers are ordered to put some demented lightning gheists out of their misery after their reclusian tardwranglers failed to contain them.
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>>97438744
>https://gofile.io/d/OlRUOq
Callis & Toll i guess? Or maybe the Ven Denst books.

>>97437808
>>97437651
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>>97435961
>stormcasts in the starter
>only 2 normal stormcasts
JAMES HIRE THIS MAN
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>>97438952
>Callis & Toll
Still so weird to recycle them and Neave but in a manner that disregards everything that came before so they might as well have been wholly new characters.
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Bodhisattva
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>>97439038
respecting the source material was too much work, better cash in the name alone
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>>97439117
I can't imagine those characters were very bankable to begin with.
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>>97439038
I enjoyed the earlier works but honestly it wasn’t much to change they were pretty barebones as characters and character history wise. Same thing with Neave in fact the story beats are pretty much exactly the same minus the realm connection.
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>>97439146
Did they take Callis’ hot elf explorer gf from him
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>>97439135
the characters got picked up specifically because the source material stood out well enough amongst fans

why do you think not respecting what made them stood out makes them any more bankable?
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>>97439152
Last we heard from her she went adventuring in the afterlife of gentleman thieves. Nick Horth hasn't done shit with her since. But then I don't think he's had anything published through BL since. In any case she's not referenced in Annandale's Callis & Toll book. Basically nothing from Horth's stories is referenced, though.
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>>97438952
Sigh....source?
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>>97439176
The chuds won :(
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>>97438153
Postan borkborb
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>>97439226
Is this the one that comes with the silver tower priest? The collarhammer is cute.
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>>97439257
Ye, the silver tower box has so much fun stuff in it. It's a shame it's all very weird together and there isn't a great reason for them to print them again
>>97439253
Man nuseraphon might be one of the best refreshes they've done in a decade across 40k and aos
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>>97439296
Everything in silver tower is so good, they tend to stand out in their respective ranges. The pink horror is so much better than the old ones. The darkoath chieftain is so much better than the rest of the range which was released like 6 years later. The knight questor is peak stormcast. I could go on. I don't know which team was responsible for the designs in that game, but they were on fire.
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>>97437163
>basic soup faction
I wouldn't call them soup. They have what remains after losing ghosts, ghouls, and varghulfs. Which isn't to say they have nothing. They still have skeletons, zombies, vampires, and vargheists. But I don't know. They feel like they're missing things to me.
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>>97438153
Why haven't you fucked off yet? We had a few days without you and it was fucking brilliant.
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>>97439226
>>97439296
>>97439368
Silver Tower designs were so bloody based. Why didn't GW release the Tzeentch units in it separately? Ranged would've been far more popular imo
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>>97439368
Based opinion. I think dark oath get pretty close to the themes the chieftain laid out in silver tower but I think I only enjoyed the chieftain cause I was doing one and not a whole army. I have more fun with fantastical stuff than I do with more grounded miniatures but every once and a while it's fun to just paint a muddy normal dude in rags
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>>97439391
The chieftain is so well done man, shame about the rest of darkoath. In concept they're not even any different, it's just the execution where they missed the mark. Savagers are still cool though but that's about it.
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>>97435705
> stormcast again, boring

I feel like next edition would be the perfect time to do a non SCE order side box.
if they did a CoS vs Fec or any of the elves vs Soulblight that would legitimately be really cool. A lot of people would mesh with a good CoS starter army and elves no matter what flavour would also bring in a lot of interest.
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>>97439421
i personally feel like cities is the most realistic non-SCE starter army. i was thinking Cities fighting either FeC or soulblight is overall the most ideal start of an edition. maybe vampires more than ghouls
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>>97438390
I feel a bit bad mentioning it since he gave me a good deal, but I bought a figure from a guy at my LGS second hand who was almost to that level. In general the magic players at the shop looked worse, but I suppose the stereotype about fa/tg/uys makes sense. If you're spending hours putting together figs, painting them, and playing warhammer chances are you'll end up like that if you don't work out.
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>>97439421
>>97439445
CoS will be in the starter but as an isolated Regiment of Renown.
Sacrosanct refresh + Warpriest and devoted
The enemy side will be Ironjawz + Gitmob (Gitboss on Snarlfang and Infantry)
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>>97439383
A lot of the tzeentch units in that box are just normal seperately sold units and a couple random one offs like Slop. Only the horrors were alternate sculpts iirc, but yeah I wish they just put out an updated box of pinks using that design instead.
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>>97439445
>>97439500
Cities plus Ironjaws would go so hard. Leaning into old Fantasy.
But really anything that isn't more Stormcasts would be fine by me.
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>>97439445
>New 5th edition starter box: CoS vs HoH Tower Defense
>Cities gets a Cogfort and some support units in the box
>Helsmiths get new seige engines, possibly the train and some more artillery
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SCE Vs Warclans
>CoS: Warpriest + 2*10 Flagellants (melee or range build)
>3 Dracoline mounted paladins
>5 Evoctors
>3 Gryph Hounds, bulky hunting variant
>Witchfinder with Gryph Hound
>Sequitor Hero
>Arcanum hero
>Mounted Arcanum hero

>Gitmob: Gitboss on Snarlfang, 2 * 5 Infantry dual build 1/5 is a wolf, 1 infantry shaman, 2 Gitboss bodyguards
>2 * 5 Brutes
>10 Ardboys, Rugluds arrerboys
>3 Waaagh spirit channeling weirdbrutes, turning into mini rogue idols
>Bruteboss hero with a claw
>Shaman on foot
>Mounted shaman
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>>97437266
The Aristocrats.
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>>97435792
I would kill for them to rerun this box
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>>97439421
The thing is stormcast are tailor-made to be a "kid's first warhammer army" faction. Very easy to paint and collect. Don't forget gw makes a fuckton of money on kids and teenagers trying out a starter set, or mothers buying those sets for the aforementioned two.
With that being said, they're going to have to switch gears at some point, unless they plan on doing a sacrosanct-esque cull every two editions, which will probably harm the brand in the long run. Also, with the rise of painting youtubers and contrast paint the level of the average beginner painter has increased a lot, and starter armies don't need to be quite as simple anymore. I think 5th will definitely still be stormcast, probably redoing the remaining fatcast, but for 6th they might try something different. I've said it before but pre 3rd edition refreshes CoS vs Chaos warriors would've been a great lineup, hits all the boxes of a classic starter set, just with the usual archetypes reversed.
>>97439445
They're probably the closest thing to posterboys aside from stormcast at this point yeah. Not beating the guard in fantasy allegations, but it looks like gw is already trying out a CoS starter set if the spearhead rumours are true.
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i wish we knew more about the interal politics of some factions.
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>>97439653
Which ones
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>>97439615
>CoS vs StD
>putting two of the hardest to paint armies in the starter box
Starting armies don't need to necessarily be mono color brain dead to paint, but there needs to be some kind of limit on difficulty, especially when a lot people, maybe most who are into the hobby aren't super into painting and just do it to get it done. Cities can maybe get put into a starter box but the other faction needs to be a simpler paint job so the person getting it can feel like not every faction will be that much of a chore to make look good. I wish AoS had a faction or CoS subfaction equivalent to grey knights. More elite than Cities, less than storm cast, being a bit more complex with more bits and bobs to paint but still pretty straightforward. I get that AoS is likes going in a less standard direction with it's fantasy but you really can't beat classic medieval knights.
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>>97439296
>nuseraphon might be one of the best refreshes they've done in a decade across 40k and aos
yeah man I love these models, every single one is great
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>>97439705
like OBR, lumineth and kharadon in my opnion. Not basic concepts like "who is in charge" but something closer to "what is the daily buisness and paperwork"
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>>97439758
>om]125 / 39 / 1 [Update] [Auto]
OBR daily life bits are more ofcused on hobbies/leasure than burocracy
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>>97439758
I think ossiarchs and kharadrons are given enough of a framework to make some fitting guesses, but yeah, for lumineth we got little aside from the nations being symmetrical and split between tyrionic and teclian and I doubt the elemental benders are in charge of the normal politics in the latter anyway
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>got catfished by a Blood Warrior again
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>>97439800
that used to be a nurglite thing
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>>97439807
its a general chaos thing.
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>>97439296
>>97439717
My one gripe are the shields, I would've preferred something more like the scarvet on carnosaur's shield, perfect blend between primal and techy.
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Anybody know any stl files for legs that would fit wrathmongers/skullreapers
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>>97439832
No
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zioctyhm/sunday-preview-embrace-chaos-with-new-battleforces-and-old-world-classics/

Another week of no new preorders for AoS, but the WH+ thing about the studio writer talking about the MoN rules might be decent discussion fuel.
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>>97439933
I see a bunch of Darkoath proxies.
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Ready to slam.
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>>97440088
man, the hype around this meme model sure died quickly the moment gw made him that ugly
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>>97440093
Don't you day say shit about Slambo you fucking dog fucking faggot!
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>>97440088
what are you slamming, chaos man
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>>97440088
h-hi, slambo-senpai...
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>>97440103
Hallowed Knights and/or Gitz
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>>97440088
Can he do the chaos dunk
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>>97440099
I sure dare: he's fat, his axes are weightless and he's keeping his weak knees like a japanese schoolgirl
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>>97440137
I'm going to rape you until you call Slambo daddy.
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>>97440088
Blessed dubs and slambopilled
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>>97440147
You wouldn't day, daddy's girl.
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How could GW botch Spearhead so hard?
It was hyped so much with the 4th edition launch, people were unironically loving it and playing it over the "full" AoS in many areas. Why has GW thought it's a good idea to not release anything new for it for months, not even White Dwarf token expansions? One full expansion since the start of the edition is a joke, absolutely unreasonable.
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>>97440227
???
There's new Spearheads come out in the next few months?
We got a free pdf for multiplayer games like a week ago?
Retard, stfu.
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>>97440234
>There's new Spearheads come out in the next few months?
Well you are clearly the retarded one here if you think that releasing more and more armies is a good way to keep people invested in the game. Most people want more scenarios, abilities and gimmicks to play with the armies they already own, not to buy another warband you imbecile. By your logic, the best way to keep people interested in the narrative gameplay is to release more Battleforce boxes rather than give more scenarios and campaign content to players.
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>>97440281
>Well you are clearly the retarded one here if you think that releasing more and more armies is a good way to keep people invested in the game
Bait or retardation, call it.
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>>97440281
Anon you said they weren't releasing anything new, and were proven wrong. Take the L and don't lash out.
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>>97440088
They should have went this direction with the new Chaos Warriors tbhon.
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>>97440326
You’ll be happy to see what the new tow chaos warriors will end up taking inspiration from.
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>>97440309
>I can't read and I don't understand what a context is, therefore I win
Based golem, I kneel.
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>>97440398
I'm calling bait and moving on. Enjoy your TOW thread, love. Won't be many of those left before the game dies again <3
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>>97440227
Is this both?
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>>97440227
Is this the actual logo? The fuck? Never seen that before.
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Creative, but sloppy
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>>97440496
I wouldn't say it's sloppy but rather that it lacks context: why is the forehead eye shocked whole his empty sockets are angry?
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>>97440531
Not what i meant
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>>97440281
Yeah, Warcry doled out terrain and map generation additions alongside warbands did they not?
Spearhead hasn't really launched as an independent system yet, with just recycled terrain and such. I think it'll pick up this year, with original terrain, new warbands included, etc
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>>97440606
To be fair they probably didn't expect spearhead to catch on the way it did because combat patrol flopped completely beforehand. Looks like they're adapting though, one of the starter kits got renamed to the spearhead starter set, and if the rumours are to be believed we'll get a second one with CoS.
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CoS realm themed upgrade kits when? Heads, bits, weapon arms
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>>97440606
>Yeah, Warcry doled out terrain and map generation additions alongside warbands did they not?
Aye, this is what Spearhead is missing. Considering the brainless response from the consoomers here, perhaps GW knows better after all and they know there is no need to put any effort and focus in releasing extra rules and supplements when no-games will keep buying reboxed poorly-selling kits and defend GW anyway.
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>>97440739
It was a clear bait post anon, that's why people responded negatively. I think this place would be very pleased with narrative options for spearhead and further support in general, but the idea that they botched spearhead is so laughable you can't blame anons for dismissing the post.
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>>97440763
>It was a clear bait post anon
That was my post and it wasn't a bait. GW keeps releasing new Spearhead boxes not because Spearhead is successful but because they need 1-player starter boxes. Not so long ago they were called Vanguard boxes after all. You can clearly see that interest in Spearhead dropped both online and in local communities. For the first few months of 4e it was not only a "starter" format but also a valid alternative way of playing small games even if you had a full army at home. Nowadays Spearhead is only being played by brand new players. In my area all three local game stores dropped Spearhead leagues months ago and I see the same happening in other stores, in Europe at least.
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>>97439377
NTA, KWAB
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>>97440791
Might be an area thing anon, it's trucking along just fine where I'm at, and it seems stable worldwide. A new season like sand and bone or similar would be nice don't get me wrong, but I really can't see this dire state you're alluding to.
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>>97440791
spearhead is still relatively popular in my neck of the woods, it is a fair amount of new people playing it, but as someone who plays the full game of AoS i will bring out my spearhead army to play with people interested in the hobby or still don't have a 2k point army yet
some people also don't have time for a full game but have enough for a quick (comparitively) game of spearhead, which is also enticing to a lot of people at LGS
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>>97438390
Many such cases.
Admittedly, at least AoS is better than 40k and MTG in regards to physique and body odor.
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>>97440911
not a very high bar, but yeah i've yet to encounter an AoS player that made me physically gag from their stench
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>>97439707
> More elite than Cities, less than storm cast, being a bit more complex with more bits and bobs to paint but still pretty straightforward.
Unironically Lumineth. The majority of their models aren't really that complicated, just curvy.
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>>97439707
CoS sure but are slaves that hard to paint? Outside of trim on the chosen etc they always seemed fairly straightforward to me
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>>97439707
StD are easy to paint besides darkoath, and with contrasts their skin tone isn't even a big deal
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>>97440836
You are aware that people searching for Spearhead may be simply looking for the 1-player starter set with no interest in the game format, right?
>>97440846
>some people also don't have time for a full game but have enough for a quick (comparitively) game of spearhead, which is also enticing to a lot of people at LGS
Sadly, this kind of Spearhead games are not a thing anymore in my area. I have friends in four different European countries and all of them are experiencing a massive drop in Spearhead games at their stores as well. Perhaps it's tied to the general lack of interest in 4e. It's a shame really since I prefer 4e over 3e and I was happy to see the previous edition gone. It feels so weird to play more games of 2e than 4e.
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4e is boring. 5e when?
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>>97441084
I considered that, but I assume those people would probably specifically search for "[faction] spearhead" or whatever instead of generally 'age of sigmar spearhead'.
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>>97441125
A year and a half from now, presumably.
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>>97440846
> They don't have time
What does this even mean. They are showing up to an LGS for... What. An hour? Two?
What the fuck where they even going to be doing there for that short a time where they only game they can play is fucking spearhead
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>Gutrot fighting in the ocean depths
I dunno how Rotbringer submarines work but I wanna see them.
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>>97440730
never, they chose the design cues specifically to fit a good number of realms already
>angular bold lines: aqshy
>wood and floral patterns: ghyran
>macabre heads: shyish
>incoming cogfoppery: chamon
hysh, ulgu, ghur and azyr don't matter here
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>>97441207
>I dunno how Rotbringer submarines work
submarine ≈ nautilus ≈ nautiloid ≈ snail ≈ nurgle

the segments inside a nautilus' shell are empty
sometimes
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>>97441187
Nta but is it really a mystery as to how it's easier for people to find time for a ~1 hour game of spearhead vs a 3+ hour game of Bigmar?
>>97441217
If we're going down that road then all the monstrous stuff like the ogre or gate gargants is ghur coded
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>>97441187
>They are showing up to an LGS for... What. An hour? Two?
that's the game, setup and setdown take time, as well as actual socialisation, and most people don't have the entire afternoon available to be at the lgs

I've seen so many games of normal warhammer not getting finished despite technically having all day for them
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>>97441401
Remind me why dawnbringers leave comfy azyr to get shat on by the likes of festus down with the jobbers in the shitty lower realms again?
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>>97441411
It's the Azyrite man's burden.
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>>97441411
Remind me again, why did the conquistadors leave comfy spain to get shat on by the likes of Tzilacatzin down with the jobbers in the shitty new world again?
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gaddam i want the new obr rules and models so bad anons
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>>97441411
every dawnbringer story is a "the war will be over by christmas, it'll be some fun with the lads" situation
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>>97441570
Chariot: Once per charge phase (army) Roll a D3 and on a 2+ do that many MW
Chariot hero: Roll a dice, on a 5+ add +1 to hit for one chariot unit when attacking a unit in combat range of this hero
Archers: Once per shooting phase (army) Select unit damaged by this unit and if any brazier tokens remain, you may remove one to roll a D3 and on a 2+ do that many MW to the selected unit
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>>97441597
Wrong they will be 2+ on a D6 for all in order to encourage sales of the new kits, then they will be nerfect back to D3 where they intend them to be long term.
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>>97439832
Anything scaled for chosen would work well, they're around the same size
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Coming by 2033
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>>97441597
>>97441611

they are changing relentless disciplines fully it seems to a system similar to 2nd ed

so regardless it will be probablyyyy be better than the index rules
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>>97439758
Honestly there’s more than enough KO novels for this and that one Gotrek novel. Those two Lumineth books are… of debatable quality but also are included
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has anyone tried KO without the boats?

does it work?

i kinda want to try pic related, i love their infantry model kits, but im not sure i want to drop $300+ on a meme thats gonna get btfo on the table. i've currently only got about 40 infantry and half of that is thunderers RIP
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>>97432360
Apologies for not getting back to you, shit's gone back to fucking awful locally again and my brain was fucking melted yesterday.

I really appreciate all the tips here. I probably need a little hobby saw and am probably gonna need a decent chunk more of sculpting putty/ green stuff. (And some actual sculpting tools though I can probably wing it still) I have yet to crack open my vanguards but I'm probably gonna need something to keep my brain preoccupied again so that might be coming soon.

BUT I spose we'll see how these ogors turn out. I found my old Hunter and Blackpowder I feel like I did a solid job on so I at least have a general idea that I can in fact paint an ogre.
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>>97441868
Are there more than 2 KO novels?
>>97441873
The list you posted is pretty close to some tournament placing lists I've see. Shooting and boats are somewhat deemphasized with the current book, it's mostly about skywardens, vongrim and maybe 1-2 blocks of arkanaut company. Objectively your handicapping yourself not running at least one frigate with how many of the rules revolve around the boats and the arkanauts aren't going to be doing much if you can't get them into combat. Honestly it's not too far off from a legit list. You could drop two of the vongrim units for an ironclad and now you actually have a way to ferry your guys around, a solid kill group with supports to grab objectives and win tactics, and enough points left over for faction terrain.
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>>97441803
Man, that Malerion vs Tyrion box set is going to look so good in 10 years.
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>>97441187
>What the fuck where they even going to be doing there for that short a time where they only game they can play is fucking spearhead
I would imagine they would be going to play spearhead if they only had time to play spearhead. What kind of dumbass question is this.
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>>97441960
>Malerion Ulgu elves in AoS
>Dark Elves refresh in TOW
2032 is going to be a hell of a year for evil elf enjoyers
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Is there any more information on Prince Vordhai or any material where they explore who the Blood Emperor is? Seems to be a pretty major plot point to just be contained to a lore blurb in the battletome. Seems to be a common case with AoS lore where the evolving setting means stuff is left on cliffhangers to put it charitably more often than not. But gosh am I interested.
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>>97442539
That seems to be the case with many things, I pray for the day GW decides to give us some love on par with Fantasy or 40k lorewise.

Modelwise we're set, I just want some more depth and worldbuilding around them.
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>>97442549
>I just want some more depth and worldbuilding around them
The problem is the community doesn't demand it. So they won't service the perceived need. They are happy pumping out kit after kit and adding maybe a paragraph or two of new lore for each army in their respective book each edition.
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I heard next ed of 40k Will have Eldar as the big bad. I hope next AoS edition we have Daughters of Kaine as a main faction.
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>>97442609
>as a main faction.
What did he mean by this
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Did gw squat the fyreslayers yet?
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>>97442677
not happening anytime soon. there's rumors they get souped with TOW dwarves into Khazalid holds, but there's no way they get squatted in the next 2 years, if ever.
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>>97442565
I wish instead of slapping a few paragraphs of lore into a new battletome every edition to help sell the rulebooks, they just had free updates for the rules in the app and just put out dedicated lorebooks with the stories of the faction from beginning to current edition going through what that faction was doing during everything including short stories or blurbs from black library novels. I'd be much more interested in being able to really get into the general story of AoS and the respective factions tthan paying $50 for a glorified rulebook.
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>>97442685
Pleasantly surprised. Is their a date for their update?
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>>97442699
OBR just got shown off like a week ago, no mention of Ogors or Fyreslayers during.

"Soon"
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>>97439614
I'm betting it would be 250€?
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>>97438647

you wish faggot as aos novels sales are way way more down than 40k. If it was the original fantasy novels thats a totally different beast
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>>97442866
No shit anon but that's not what he was saying. He said the books are good, not that they're outselling 40k. They could print a 400page hardcover novel with a single word on every page, stick the name of a 40k character on the front, charge 120$ for it and have a preorder bonus of a one sided pleather bookmark, and they would sell out of it on preorder.
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>>97442677
Pity hero this year. Other than that ignored.
>>97442866
nothing gw sells more than 40k.
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>>97442982
>Pity hero this year
Wrong. IT looks like Fyreslayers are getting brand new units this edition. All of the factions teased in that reveal (MoN, OBR, Ogors & Fyreslayers) are getting an update to their armies. Other factions unmentioned so far we can just assume they'll be getting the standard pity hero
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>>97439784
Elaborate the fuck out of that. All I know is that some soldiers like to play competitive games occasionally. Also leaders collecting various beasts as trophies and artisans doing weird shit because why not.
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>>97442699
According to the rumourmongers the fyreslayers/khazalid army will be the final tome release for this edition. Late 2026, early 2027, something like that.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gMqRc6ELZu4
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>>97443166
why did you post this?
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Started reading about empire lore from fantasy to get some background on the world that was and I fell down a rabbit hole. I have spent the last hour reading about various empire provinces, looking at maps, seeing villages towns, economies ecosystems, religions, politics etc I am kinda floored. There seems to be more lore on the empire than there is overall background for The Mortal Realms. Hyperbole probably but I am stunned. I still haven't even come to to finishing reading either.


GW REALLY need to step up the lore and worldbuilding for AoS because the difference is staggering.
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(You)
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>>97443329
why did you not?
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>>97443162
Early 2027 will be the last tome of the edition
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>>97443418
Seems reasonable to me. They still have two major release waves to get through before kharadron, as well as all the remaining pity hero tier releases. They'll have to hurry up with the latter though, I expect more dual tome drops like fec/nh and now lumineth/tzeentch
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>>97443457
>kharadron
Meant fyreslayers of course
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>>97442685
Aren't they squatting most of their admittedly tiny range in the shift? All the foot heroes and berserkers?
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>>97443478
No they're squatign WH quest guy, one of the priests and berserkers.
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>>97435629
This will be your stormcast half for 5th edition's starter set. How do you react?
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>>97443478
>Aren't they squatting most of their admittedly tiny range in the shift? All the foot heroes and berserkers?
Not even close. They're squatting one priest hero, one berserker hero and the Warhammer Quest hero+vulkites.

That still leaves them with 3 infantry units (Hearthguard, Auric Hearthguard, and the Warcry guys) the magmadroths, and about 6 foot heroes (Runesmiter, Battlesmith, Runefather, Runeson, Flamekeeper, Grimhold Exile) + whatever new shit they get. Also Gotrek is apparently officially going to be part of the army in the new book.
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>>97443570
To add to this, rumors of what exactly Fyreslayers are getting in the update are still murky. We know they're getting multiple things, including some kind of new droth/droths, and a different rumor-monger said he heard there was a Grimnir-Golem and some kind of big battering ram thing with Fyreslayers riding on top.
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>>97443583
the battering ram rumor was bullshit
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>>97438744
Callis and Toll or Prince Maesa. Both a great "ground level" intros to the Mortal Realms.
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>>97443605
Eh, we'll see. I think it's plausible just because both that and the golem sound like they could very easily be dual kits that you build as either Fyreslayer or Khazilid style units.
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>>97443609
It's really annoying the recent book that's actually called "callis and toll" kind of sucks and isn't what people are talking about when they mention the callis and toll books, and you have to clarify it's city of secrets + the silver shard + the spinoff shorts.

Black Library should let Nick Horth flay David Annandale alive on the streets of nottingham for what he did to those two
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>>97443629
black library requested the reboot, not Annandale
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>niggas realy be reading books
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>>97443491
I mean it makes sense, though the aquilor lord would fit better. I think if they refreshed the heraldor, venator and castellant that's all the old fatcast heroes back (though honestly maybe it's better if some of those get left behind, stormies certainly aren't pining for more heroes).
I think then the only things left are paladins and vanguard palladors, both of which have de facto refreshes already even if they have a different name. Oh, and the celestant prime but he's kind of weird. Maybe there's some other fatcast named characters I'm forgetting.
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They’ll do 4 spearheads in one for next editions starter. So it won’t be 2 armies in the starter, but 4.
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>>97443674
Sounds cool actually. Make up a plotline that has every GA fightingat once
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>>97443674
Press X to doubt. Gaynigger wankshack are too much a bunch of penny shaving kikes to give you more than two spearheads worth of dudes with one or two extra characters as the FOMO content.
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>>97436813
>>97437142
>>97437927
>age of sigmar keelhauled
here's your kharadron launch starter set bro
(I'd make the idoneth one too but honestly I don't have any great ideas and as you can see I kind of ran out of steam (heh) once I got to the airboat anyway)
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>>97443748
>grundstok commodore in submariner suit (x1)
>grundstok submariners (x3)
>arkanaut commandeers (x5 aetherpistols, x5 vengryn-hammers)
>arkanaut hullbreakers (x5)
>aethercaptain in hullbreaker-harness (x1)
>zontari auto-pilot (x1) and endrin auto-volleys (x3)
>arkanaut aetherskimmer (x1)
No need to thank me James.
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>>97441248
I think if you are meeting at an LGS to game you have the time to play a regular game unless for some fucking reason you show up to an LGS for like only an hour (at which case why even show up)
>>97441298
Then how is that a problem of AoS and not those people being unable to just get to the fucking point? It's their failure not AoS' failure.
>>97442338
Nothing about his post said 'they show up specifically for spearhead' it said 'they don't have time for a full game of AoS but do have time for a comparatively quick game of spearhead' which is 'enticing to a lot of people at an LGS.'
These people apparently are at an LGS, but not long enough to just game a normal game in, but do have time for spearhead, nothing about then showing up specifically for it. I'm sorry if you are too retarded to not understand the difference
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>>97442685
Why did they reveal the LRL and Tzneetch before the ogres and Fyreslayers they had already spoiled
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>>97436813
KO mechacrabs vs normal crabs
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>>97443748
units of kharadrons in big daddy suits, as well as arkanauts and grundstok with heavy armor and melee stuff are ok, but the skimmer I think should be made a podracer, and the other flying units are a bit redundant with the ones they already have, maybe replace them with bikers
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>>97443748
Just play 40k if you want this shit
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>>97443817
40cuck is incomperable worse though
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>>97443800
You are extremely bored.
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New commemorative models. Last year's was a clawlord. This year's is steelhelm.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kwuec3hd/stand-stoic-with-new-event-miniatures-for-warhammer-40000-and-age-of-sigmar/
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>>97443847
>New commemorative models.
Again? They showed the commemorative daemonsmith just the other week, didn't they?
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>>97443800
>unless for some fucking reason you show up to an LGS for like only an hour (at which case why even show up)
...to play some spearhead?
>>97443812
>maybe replace them with bikers
Hear me out: kharadron jetskis
>>97443817
Eh tbf kharadron are the 40k-lite army anyways. Who else has transports, let alone 3 of them?
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>>97443847
Who cares about these minor resculpts of existing models bro
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>>97443847
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>>97443847
Actually pretty alright looking, way better than any of the existing steelhelms. That being said, it's still a fucking steelhelm.
Also what the fuck another commemorative mini, you guys told me it cost them two bajillion dollars to make a sprue mould why are they just shitting out these one off minis lately? We had one just last week, not to mention the vampire a week or two before that.
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>>97443847
The 40k one is a commander model, making a commemorative model a rank-and-file schlub that will struggle to stand out at all seems so daft
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>>97443884
people would care if gw bothered to put in the effort of giving them special characters profiles and a short story that introduces and hypes them up

>this generic downer hero?
>this is orgen de frunkfart
>he was present when zenestra fought the troggoth king and when she banished reikenor below embergard, but he doesn't like the wheels cultists one bit
>here's the story of how he kicked a troggoth in his rocky nads and then a ghost in his ethereal flaming nads, grandpa's boots are that good
>same profile and cost as marshal with the better sword, no relic envoy or the other special rule, but has one that makes him and a unit of steelhelms appear out of nothing from the flank (because they're not dumb enough to forgo wheels and treat their shoes well so they marched farther ahead of the battle)
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>>97443847
What's the point
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>>97443847
i like the face alot
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>>97443945
I don't think gw wants to give these guys alternate rules because if you accidentally make your ultra rare commemorative model better than regular it's going to cause some feel bad moments.
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>>97443980
yeah think of the poor players who can't find a miniature for a black marshal with sword and shield
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>>97443980
Make them legends rules from the get go and the only ones who would get mad are tourneyfags who were going to buy a recast anyway.
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>>97443993
If there's an easy and obvious proxy then we're back to square one, why would anyone care about the commemorative model?
Gw just likes them as alternate models for existing minis.
I guess one thing they could do is theme them after background/bl library characters not important enough to otherwise get their own mini.
"This commemorative Gloomspite Gitz mini is themed after zograt of "bad loon rising" fame, you can use him as a Loonboss in your games!"
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>>97444015
>why would anyone care about the commemorative model?
because the fluff makes you appreciate the character enough to want the exclusive fancier option for it? and rules bring attention to the fluff?
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>>97443847
Looks like a saltyzpyre in black face.
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>>97443847
Is that Hammerhal symbol sculpted in? That sucks, my guys are Living City
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>>97443847
Kinda cool. Guess he's a Steelhelm unit leader?
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>>97443861
Wasn't demon guy a syore aniversary promo? This guy is Adepticon promo
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>>97444091
i imagine just putting some greenstuff over the indent is an easy modification to do
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Anons i managed to buy wrekkaz and started to paint them but i noticed something

Do some minis have that weird looking "open spot" like the shitty easy to build? I glued like the book said but i still see how some of the parts don't fit or dont reach, even if they feel well placed
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>>97444091
Does look like it's an indentation yeah, but like >>97444118 said it shouldn't be too hard to fix if you want to.
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>>97440227
The format is great, there isn't anything truly broken, I'm still having a blast whenever I play it.
Not everything needs to be "game as a service" with new products churned at high speed just to satisfy the impulsive consumers.
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>>97444118
yeah, but still feels like GW reminding everyone once again that they don't give a shit about any other City
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>>97440227
I just want a Trogg Spearhead so bad. GW, give me an excuse to buy some Troggs, you know once I have the Spearhead I will give in to temptation!
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>>97444148
soon enough there won't be many other cities
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>>97444148
It's coming out alongside a Cadian officer, the way that army is designed now goes WAY harder into pigeonholing players into sticking to one subfaction, I fucken hate it
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>>97438705
>They fit
a lot of sacrosanct models are not compatible with the upgrade kits because the shoulderpads are part of the chest armor
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>>97444172
This would be absolute ass to play against in spearhead damn.
Also add mollog :)
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>>97443491
>castellant and heraldor
hell ya

>venator
we already have the judicator, theres no need for a second sniper hero

i doubt they would release a mix of vanguard and extremis. more likely we see only one of those and then more warrior chamber units

>vanguard hunters
i hope not, theres no need for cheap chaff units in an auxiliary chamber. they should have specialized units
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>>97444276
Sacrosanct did seem to have a lot more easy to build stuff than normal, but I checked out the normal evocator and sequitor sprues for example and they had their shoulderpads separate.
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>>97444292
I was just picking the models I'd want in the box. Rules are whatever. But also, I don't want to buy new models unless there's a real chance I could play with them.
>>97444292
I know a theoretical Troggoth Spearhead would have Mollog, but I'd prefer one that's all generic so it can be one of those "buy three and you've got most of a decent tournament army" boxes like Sylvaneth
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>>97443847
Yep that's a "dude in a different pose" mini all right
Every time they show a lame commemorative model I get a bit miffed, but then feel relieved that it means I'm not missing out on anything
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>>97444329
Mhyea a Troggoth spearhead would be tricky, because for example just those 3 units are going to be completely unkillable in a game the size of spearhead (though you won't be able to deal much damage either), but as a spearhead box it's also quite light as far as discount goes. You'd have to add like a cave shaman to bring it in line with the others.
I saw someone suggest a mixed squig/troggoth spearhead a few times that I quite liked. Something like a dankhold, two boxes of squig herd, and then either a shaman or mollog I don't remember.
the real prize would be a spiderfang spearhead
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>>97444336
>it means I'm not missing out on anything
I'm thankful my faction will never get into the kind of spotlight to get limited ed models
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>>97444346
Give them a mechanic to weaken them, like sometimes they get bored and wander off or go to sleep
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>>97444351
What's your faction?
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>>97439296
You mean Lizardmen?
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>>97444383
Not him but I don’t think I’ve ever seen sylvaneth featured.
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>>97444383
I'm betting idoneth
>>97444396
That's who seraphon are, yes
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>>97441165
Might be a long wait...
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>>97444076
>dark skin medieval soldier looks out of place
you don't say
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>>97444434
>what are the moors
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>>97444398
>>97444401
Aelfs in general don't get comemoratives
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>>97444383
lizards

worst fomo shit I had to snag were the warcry ruins, luckily enough
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Feces Eater Courts
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>>97444434
He's not a medieval soldier. While the Cities take inspiration from medieval imagery, the Realms are an extremely different setting with a completely different history
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>>97444132
Not all figures are created equal, some don't fit as neatly as they should. If you have smaller gaps in the model, you can fill them with sprue glue. If they're bigger gaps, you can use green stuff or a similair epoxy to fill it in.
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>>97444471
Not so fast...
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>>97444132
On modern kits(with some exceptions) if there's something that really doesn't look like it's fitting right it's because I'm doing something wrong
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moors weren't subsaharans, they existed in one region and aren't what anyone thinks of as medievel european.
>>97444507
Yes it's a work of fiction, I'm well aware.Still completely irrelevant to what inspires the setting. Makes as much sense as giving CoS pandas.
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>>97444594
>CoS's entire theme is literally about diversity with different races working together to hold off the tide of chaos
>"erm why are there negroes"
just wait until you find out elves, dwarfs, and ogres weren't in medieval europe either
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>>97444569
having parts of a miniature (especially if it's monopose stuff) fitting perfectly is generally the exception rather than the rule; it's why using greenstuff or "sprue glue" is pretty common to patch up those seams
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>>97444594
>Yes it's a work of fiction, I'm well aware.Still completely irrelevant to what inspires the setting. Makes as much sense as giving CoS pandas.
you might be aware of the inspirations but you clearly don't know shit about the actual fiction. The Cities were settled by the refugees who fled the Realms during the Age of Chaos. So it starts out as a whole mishmass of people from all over, and then they integrated Reclaimed tribes too. The lore is that Cities are racially diverse.

Sorry anon, if you don't want to see black people in a Cities army, you can't justify it by the lore. You just don't like seeing black people
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>>97444679
never mind the fact that it's a miniature you paint yourself so you can make him whatever fucking skin color you want, but anon doesn't play cities and just wanted to get angry about wokehammer or whatever
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>>97443847
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>>97444728
Fallout skin color bug lookin mother fucker.
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>>97444615
but they do come from medieval folklore
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>>97444564
That waa comemorative? I thought they just added her like Drekki and Cado
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>>97444759
and black people were in europe in the middle ages, so if fairytales and folklore is fine for an army then anything else goes as far as i'm concerned

on that note, CoS is less so medieval than it is late renaissance, same as the empire in WF, hence why they have gunpowder guns and fucking steam tanks
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>>97444486
Wasn't there a FOMO chameleon alt?
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>>97444787
>and black people were in europe in the middle ages
no, they weren't
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>>97444792
That was from an underworlds band.
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Alright as far as I can tell these are all the limited edition models grouped by grand alliance, so commemorative, christmas, store anniversary, warhammer day, warhammer +, event exclusive, etc. I excluded stormcast because there's like a billion. Wasn't sure about maleneth either, oh and othar half king is kind of weird because I don't think he was ever officially announced?
Either way, these factions are missing:
-4 chaos monogods
-seraphon
-sylvaneth
-idoneth
-lumineth
-DoK (unless you count maleneth)
-Ossiarchs
-Ogres
-(Gloomspite have the christmas ones which are rather specific)
-sons of behemat (lmao)
I don't think beasts ever had anything either, if it matters.
I'm probably forgetting at least a few desu
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>>97444821
That's not realy FOMO, he's in stores in a 2nd box set
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>>97444873
It was to say that no, there was no limited ed chameleon.
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>>97444728
Great, now it looks like an abhuman beastman for some reason.
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>>97444728
>>97444931
could gw be using blackface to hide badly sculpted faces?
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>anons unironically getting upset that there's the potential to have melanin in an army they don't even play
every day we come closer to reaching the 40kg autism singularity point
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>>97444942
what exactly makes you happy about cities of sigmar having black people?
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>>97444931
It’s just your average Slav, I don’t get what’s so off with it.
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>>97444937
The Pajeet invasion has been a Godsend for GW's wokeoid sculptors.
Now they can just sculpt whites and paint them dark, and they will never have to learn to sculpt African faces.
I think in total they've sculpted less than 10 Africans who look like Africans in their whole history.
Honestly I expected the old Excelsior Warpriest >>97439296 to be a turning point instead all we get now is whites painted like GOOD MORNING SAAR
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>>97444787
>on that note, CoS is less so medieval than it is late renaissance, same as the empire in WF
It's akshually themed after the early renaissance/late medieval period, specifically some hussite-esque designs are pretty prominent.
>>97444942
Sidenote but whities also produce melanin, it's in your hair for example

Regardless at least one of you in this conversation is getting baited by the other
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>>97444966
i like customization in armies and i think it's good that GW isn't just having the promo photos for CoS all being the same colors and skin tone for every single model in a unit, it also fits with the lore of cities of sigmar
if they had, like, a FOMO lumineth model and it was a black dude with a big afro or whatever then yeah that would be horrendously out of place but a few black people being in cities of sigmar isn't worth sperging over, because again having a wide swathe of groups of people living in the cities is literally the point of that faction

>>97444993
i'm aware that every human produces at least some melanin, you know what i mean though lel
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>>97445027
>i like customization
how many black people have you painted in your armies?
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>>97445040
i play stinky rat fucks and some of them are more pale, some of them are tan, and some of them have dark skin to add a more motley appearance to my army

"i like customization" doesn't mean "you need to have black skin" it's "you can paint your fuckers however you want", that's the fun part about painting and assembling your army, anon. this is why i think it's funny some are upset that some cities humans are painted as black dudes, despite the setting, lore, and faction making it not only acceptable but encouraged
so either you're completely misconstruing what i'm saying or you are legitimately retarded
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>>97445066
>i play stinky rat fucks
I have a plethora of antisemitic jokes to make about you, but I think I'll refrain

have a nice day
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>he is still baiting in this thread
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>>97445098
it's ok anon you can say it, i don't have to spend $120 for a unit of skryre globadiers anymore so i've been pretty happy this edition
i hope your wargaming and hobbying goes well!
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>>97445110
Don't 10 globardiers still end up costing 120$?
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>>97444834
More kb than I expected. I guess being s starter faction helps on that front.
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>>97444728
This legit looks so much better lol
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>>97445150
globadiers come in units of 5 but it's optimal to reinforce them as a unit of 10
the pewter models were like 26 dollars individually so for a standard unit it'd be 130 bucks and for 10 it would be over 250

the new models are very cool and pretty but i do like the chunky older boys, including their weird dick tails
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Got myself the stormies half of Skaventide, what should I grab next?
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>>97445446
Dragons
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>>97438153
Got some shots of some of my ghosts and golems for warcry the other day
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>>97445527
i don't think i've ever seen someone use metallics on the base trim, it adds a lot to the miniature i think though, good job anon
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>>97444728
average Englishman (in 1990s)
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>>97444292
Spearhead can have variant warscrolls tbf
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>>97445527
Spuuky gostes
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>>97445537
I'm ngl anon, I think the thing I hate the most about those models is the metallic trim, but glad you like them, I'll just post the rest at once so I don't spam down the thread
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>>97445547
i haven't checked them all but i think most spearhead warscrolls are different from the full game's version, although it's usually small changes like removing crit abilities
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>>97445446
More prosecutors, dragons, annihilators, and while I wouldn't recommend buying the overpriced piece of shit the portal is very good.
Just stay away from vindicators. And be aware everything fatcast still there is liable to be either squatted or refreshed come 5th. (Though honestly with stormcast there's so many options you'll probably be able to find an easy proxy, it's not like anyone else will be able to tell the difference between your knight castellant and knight azyros anyway.)
>>97445547
>>97445602
True, the carnosaur is a lot weaker iirc, but at the end of the day it's still ~550 points of troggoths in a game of spearhead. Not much is going to be able to chew through even half of that.
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>>97444937
I wouldn't be suprised. You would think they would have hired competent artists for face sculpts by now, but apparently not.
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>>97445632
troggoths are a really solid unit for that spearhead for sure, they do get pretty heavy countered by some things, like anything that can shit out mortal damage
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>>97445602
They could vary within Spearhead too, I mean. Rockguts regent D3 every turn but X Rockguts could require a 4+ or something, similarly like you said the Dankhold could be pillow fisted or slower on top of traits that delay appearance or even stupidity rules
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Speaking of troggoths they should bring back the sourbreath. Zero idea what he would bring to the table but it's odd that we don't have the og trolls. Also, fuck it chaos troggoths when?
While we're on the topic trugg should get the option to take sloggoths and mirebrutes in his army of renown.
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>>97445888
>troll army
>enslaved troll units

>og trolls
>anything other than stone trolls

no
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>>97445957
i want a mega-gargant sized troggoth that's composed of smaller troggoths forming together like voltron
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>>97446051
also a bad concept

you have trolls whose main feature is their rapidly growing flesh and your first thought is fusion instead of gemmation? c'mon, anon, apply yourself a little
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>>97446066
more trolls combined together means more rocks to throw and dirt to eat
trolls stacked together means bigger throw to bigger rocks

simple as
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>>97446107
You don't need merging trolls to explain the existence of a bigger troll.
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>>97446066
Surinam toad my beloved
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>>97446119
more trolls mean more troll arms
more troll arms mean more rocks
more rocks mean more rock throwing
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>>97446204
if a troll is already growing out of another troll, then there will be multiple arms on that big troll, capisci?
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>>97446219
hmmm, you bring a convincing point, perhaps it is a similar endstate of rock throwing reached about by different processes
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>>97446066
Have they ever mentioned how new troggoths are created? Regeneration going a bit too far and growing a different troggoth seems like a fun concept, and a fairly logical continuation of their abilities.
Though I suppose the river troll hags', shall we say, 'features' do imply sexes, and breastfeeding at that... are troggoths mammals?
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>>97446245
Trolls throwing trolls throwing rocks when
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>>97446317
gw never bothered to set down how trolls work

we know they have females or what appear to be females
we know dwarfs have stories of trolls growing out of the blood that spilled from the father of trolls when grombrindal fought him
we know sea trolls are much better at regeneration and if cut they don't just regrow the missing part, but the cut part also grows into an extra troll
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OBR when...
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>>97446369
March.
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>>97437927
30k has the saturnine dreadnought which is gigantic and last edition it had a spartan.
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>>97446423
40k and aos starter sets are managed differently from tow and hh
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>>97446317
Why even lie about this?
We've literally known from 1st ed how they "work." They literally spawn in the dark, from "primordial gruel."
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>>97446448
that doesn't answer much tbqhwyfam

but I'll add that to the list of things
>they come from dirty buttcracks
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>>97446448
Uh oh! Someone mentioned the lore with a direct quote and screenshot, here comes five hours of debating and arguing over something already settled that ends with name calling!
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>>97446448
I like how you pretend this means anything in terms of actually fleshing out trolls. This is AoS writing at its worst.
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Back to normal OP formating

>>97446562
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>>97446471
BEHOLD!
>>97446468
>>97446548



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