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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Favorite token?
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>>97442733
i like the wurmcoil engine tokens :DD
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>TQ
The ones you make yourself.
Also gnomes.
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you guys DO make sure to draw the creature on your dry erase tokens, right?
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there's only one reason I've ever felt the need for dry erase tokens and it wasn't creatures
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>TQ
pic related turned out well, they look pretty slick in all white sleeves. I still hold on to them even after disassembling my doom deck.
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>>97442733
>Favorite token?
Foil version, received as a birthday present. I adore it completely
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>>97442806
wasn't worth posting again my guy
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>>97442806
i play this game with friends i made 20 years ago while our children run around like crazy
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>TQ
I like the tyranid token I made. I gave him finger guns :)
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I've got like 40 or so Rampant Growth-like cards, sorceries/creatures mostly. What's a budget commander/deck that cares about dumping a shitload of lands out? Preferably something that isn't one of the "power and toughness are each equal to the number of lands you control" creatures. The game plan would literally just be ramping/drawing for 6+ turns in a row and then some big ass dumb Timmy thing
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>>97442778
cute
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>>97442778
What did you use to make these
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>>97442838
Ew, a mousecuck.
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>>97442845
nope just easily amused
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>>97442825
Fingerman, I heard about you
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>>97442841
cardconjurer.app
it's a but jank to use at first, but once I got used to it I had better results making full art proxies with it than with MSE
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>>97442806
>I have 0 hobbies and redeeming qualities
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I tried making a budget-y lifegain angel list, but it just looks kinda janky still.
Not much interaction but i feel like there's not much I wanna cut...
Could you guys help me out what to cut and add before I buy the rest of these cards please?
https://moxfield.com/decks/1ksz8eCtjEi9P4RurG2PdA
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>>97442855
I'll give it a shot MSE had some issues
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>>97442887
people who hate sloppa will defend this
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>>97442887
you absolutely do not need a bracket 3 staple like tpro in this kind of deck
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>>97442895
I mean the art is a bit off but it's nicer than the regular Giada versions
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>>97442898
Yeahh but i already had one in my binder so I figured I might as well use it.
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>>97442903
wotc has become so prudish that they go against 1920s women's fashion of wearing sleeveless dresses just so that icky chud men don't think about women's exposed skin and armpits
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>>97442887
>less than 10 instants
doesn't sound very fun. you should value interaction more.
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>>97442916
Ahem
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>>97442903
I prefer nipnog promo one.
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>>97442933
Jesus christ anon, this is a blue board. You can even see her ankles
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>>97442931
That's my main concern, I'm just not sure what to cut?
Probably at least two enchants should go, but idk which ones, and beyond that I really have no clue what to cut. I don't really wanna run less creatures than this.
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>>97442887
>https://moxfield.com/decks/1ksz8eCtjEi9P4RurG2PdA
I would cut the following:
>Angelic Skirmisher (too expensive and does fuck all. Angels is not a go-wide deck and if you have more than 3 creatures in play at a time you are probably super ahead already)
>Dazzling Angel (Soul Warden isn't very good in a deck with multiple high cost creatures)
>Emeria Angel (You aren't exploiting landfall so an extra 1/1 per turn isn't very good)
>Momo (It's just a worse pearl medallion)
>Segovian Angel (1 drops are useless here)
>Soul Warden + Attendant (see my comment on Dazzling Angel)
>Shattered Angel (see my comment on Emeria Angel)

>Cut a Deal (Try Love Song instead)
>Banner of Kinship (Door of Destiny or Chronicle of Victory would be better)

>Angelic Accord (4 mana for a 4/4 flier every turn is not good enough. If you have way of gaining that much life each end step and not just on your end steps it's worth looking into but I'm not seeing that in this deck)

I would add the following cards:
>Adarkar Valkyrie (works on your own creatures or your opponents. Fun reanimation card)
>Bruna, Fading Light (reanimation on a cast trigger)
>Angel of Finality (useful effect)
>Angel of Indemnity (more reanimation)
>Angel of Serenity (huge versatility. Raise dead effects and/or Oblivion Ring that sends to hand rather than back to battlefield when it dies)
>Archangel of Thune (Budget permitting.)
>Herald of Eternal Dawn (Seems like a better Platinum Angel)
>Linvala, Keeper of Silence (Shuts down a lot of bullshit)
>Metropolis Reformer (Upgrade to your not-so-great 3 drops)
>Norn's Choirmaster (may be better than Baneslayer/Lyra if you are really focusing on +1/+1 counters)
>Restoration Angel (protection spell with a decent body)
>Serra's Emissary (Pro creatures is pretty powerful)
>Karmic Guide

>Emeria, The Sky Ruin
>Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
>Mutavault (for Book of Exalted Deeds)

>Debt of Loyalty

>Caged Sun
>Door of Destinies
>Chronicle of Victory
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>>97442933
This is the most beautiful art of her
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make art anime again
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>>97442974
Oh my mistake, didn't see that you were planning a budget deck. A bunch of these options are pretty cheap but Nykthos, Emeria, a couple of the midrange creatures and the artifacts are quite expensive. Debt of Loyalty for some reason too.
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>"budgety"
>300 dollars
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>>97442974
Wow thank you anon, I really like those suggestions and I'll try implementing them.
>>97442989
Was just gonna say a few of these are a bit on the higher price end for me currently, yeah lol
But I do plan on improving this deck more over time too so this would be a good upgrade path for sure.
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Cloak and Dagger better be two separate cards and both better have Partner.
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>>97442955
Shattered Angel, Emeria Angel and Angelic Accord could be cut pretty easily. Maybe Soul's Attendant and Soul Warden with all the Lifelink. Shapeshifter Kindred/Tribal spells could work with your commander
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>>97442955
when I run a tribal deck, my cuts are usually enchantments and artifacts. I also cut stuff that potentially fucks up my mana curve. my personal priorities are draw > curve > interaction. when I find that I'm short of something, I look more at stuff that has a synergy with my deck while fulfilling the missing role.
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>>97442887
People will be annoyed if you call this budget and then play some of those cards anon.
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>>97442998
I miss when "budget" was less than $50, and "premium" was like $150-200. All these dumb as fuck """""staples""""" that people think they HAVE to run all being $30+ doesn't help
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>>97442887
Holy shit get rid of heralds horn, card is ass
Get rid of Plat angel, sunblast angel, starnheim aspirant, cut starnheim unleashed and search for glory. Remove worn power stone.
Ramp and lands: Put in Sand scout package (scavenger grounds, arid archway, lazorep quarry), demolition field, urza's cave, war room, plaza of heroes, kor haven, abstergo entertainment, abandoned air temple, guild less commons (remove 11 plains for this). Weathered wayfarer. Knight of the white orchid, wayfarer's bauble, archaeomancer's map, gift of estates, scholar of New horizons.

Remove myriad landscape and secluded steppe. Add sejiri shelter, ondu inversion, witch enchantress, and Kariba takedown. Too sleepy to type up the rest.
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>>97442933
>>97442916
So like.... What is the deal with every artist drawing her as a different race?
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>>97443001
You're welcome. I've got a Bruna, Fading Light deck as well and, while it doesn't have a lifegain focus, it was my attempt at a mono-W angels deck. Looking through it here are a couple of other cards that may work well for you:
-Bathe In Light (Basically a second copy of Brave the Elements but it costs 1W and has some really cute fringe applications because it can target opponent creatures to remove auras or targeted effects in a pinch)
-Aura of Silence (Proactive interaction. Seal of Cleansing that also taxes enemy artifacts/enchantments. Shuts down a lot of cheerio style combos like SDT + Bolas' Citadel)
-Glory (Not an angel but feels like one)
-Valorous Stance (Removal or protection)
-Geier Reach Sanitarium (Discard outlet for reanimation spells. Also a way of filtering if you flood out or are mana screwed)
-Oblation (Versatile removal. Can target your own stuff to draw 2 in a pinch or to recoup some value from a removal spell/board wipe)
-Miraculous Recovery (Instant speed reanimation in monowhite is something very few people see coming. Also gives you a counter for the synergies you have with that)
-Nevermore (Rude piece of proactive interaction that just stops problematic commanders)
-Unexpectedly Absent (Versatile removal)
-Knight of the White Orchard (Ramp)
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https://moxfield.com/decks/qfCQtWDcVE-WsKBXUKEE7w
What's the rest of the deck?
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>>97443012
Mhm I think i will cut those, they really don't do that much for me.

>>97443014
Some more of those enchantments probably should go, i just have a hard time deciding on cuts there besides angelic accord and probably crusade...

>>97443026
Thanks for the suggestions anon!
I'm just not really sure why you dislike cards like worn powerstone in this?
I know it's a bit slow but this deck needs to get out so many creatures, isn't skipping two turns ahead on the curve pretty decent?

>>97443039
Thank you again! I'll have to screenshot all these posts and start working on adding more of these in.
Honestly I don't feel particularly married to the lifegain aspect of the deck so maybe i'll just cut more of the payoffs to make room for these cards.
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Wtf i need the secret lair Karmic Guide
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You guys think Yuriko it's too good for Bracket 2? without any game changing cards ofc...
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>>97443097
I mean Gavin apparently doesn't think so given that he just recently made her explicitly legal in B2
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>>97443097
Depends. Do you run top deck manipulation? Then yes absolutely. Just funsies "trying your luck?" then bracket 2 is possible. Just don't get sweaty with the deck list
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>>97443054
>Some more of those enchantments probably should go, i just have a hard time deciding on cuts there besides angelic accord and probably crusade...
some thoughts
>worn powerstone is ass
>backgrounds can be a trap (with a low cmc commander like yours it's probably ok)
>equipment can be a trap (kinda high cost to cast+equip)
Cathars' Crusade and anthems work best if you have a lot of creatures, especially tokens. you also need more board wipes (run at least 3, never less), and white has some of the best ones here.
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>>97443028
To make everyone happy. Of course this is an awful thing to do since it means there is no actual Giada character, but from a cynical leftie corpofuck perspective making a major character canonically every race helps alleviate their cringe desire for diversity.
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>>97443100
I'm running just the cheap ninjas. For manipulation only brainstorm and preordain if that's what you talking about. I really don't feel it too powerful when anyone call kill my 1/1 dude with anything...
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>>97443115
It's possible, then. The problem comes from people loading up massive ass 10+ cmc cards to the top of their deck and then being all "oh no look at all these ninjas that just hit guess what?" and one-shotting the table. You'll of course have to deal with her reputation as a "kill on sight" commander so good luck
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>>97443102
Why is worn powerstone so ass?
I know it's not an incredible card and in most decks it's too slow, but I run so many many high cmc creatures that I feel like it's actually not bad.
If I play Giada turn 2 and then powerstone turn 3, I can cast my 7 CMC angels the next turn already, it's faster ramp than something like Cultivate.
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious though, I'm still a bit of a noob.
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>>97443140
>Why is worn powerstone so ass?
There's a LOT of posters here that view all the non-meta rocks as "complete garbage" even though they're not. Don't listen to them. Worn Powerstone is fine. Not great, not terrible. It's fine.
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>enters tapped
that's why I don't play it
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>>97443185
>the mind of your average ramp player
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>>97443194
I wouldn't play natural connection either
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>>97443198
Sure, buddy.
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>>97443194
>triggers landfall
>increments land count
>more durable permanent type
There are legitimate reasons to prefer the latter to the former, in this specific circumstance and not considering any other ramp cards. But also, anon wouldn't play either, he says he won't play things that enter tapped and the land from NC does too.
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>>97443217
natural connection is also an instant which is neat
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>>97443194
both are trash
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>>97443146
>powerstone
>non-meta
lol
lmao
powerstone is ass for his deck, that is all
>>97443140
because by the the time you drop worn powerstone, everyone will have removal ready for your commander, who is kill on sight once your opponents understand its power.
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>>97443194
>manarocktard doesn't understand green ramp
many such cases
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Pal of mine was asking me how to upgrade his precon to be a viable deck for our LGS, I have no experience with Jund in EDH so I thought I'd ask here before just giving him generic advice like "run more interaction."

He bought Pic Rel and says that its too slow to keep up with the average deck (turn 5 eliminations are fairly common at this store, and most combo off not long after), Personally I think the commander itself is fine, and from what I recall there is a decent number of good commanders in the 99 he comes with. How would you adjust the list to make it quicker?
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>>97443266
my guy if a giada player is putting down worn powerstone, I'm not threatened, he'll play one big angel next turn, ill remove that and he'll gas out.
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>>97443276
this is just another good reason why you don't play powerstone in giada
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Which type of deck should play worn powerstone?
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>>97443299
a deck with a 5 drop commander
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>>97443299
stuff that benefits from or heavily reduces casting artifacts.
basically any of the urzas.
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Soiled Ring 3
Artifact
T: Add {1}{1}

Would you play it?
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>>97443312
This is better Worn Powerstone, so yes.
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>>97443273
World shaper is a bracket 2 power level deck that just so happens to not be a bracket 2 legal deck because it has a two card infinite combo
>play a better deck for the obvious bracket 3 lgs and just make the precon a bracket 2 deck instead
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>>97443343
That's what I was thinking, but he seems pretty married to trying to get value out of it. I reccomended he try doing a build around Korvald or Gitrog, but as mentioned I have no experience with Jund so I can merely point him to netdecking at that point.
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>TQ
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>tfw Final Fantasy fetus can't stop making slop decks
>when I'm not making Final Fantasy, I'm making a precon commander for a limited archetype where most of the deck's already built
I want to branch out more.
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It's fun
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>>97443444
he cute
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What's been going on, Breena bros?
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>>97443461
can someone edit this to say JEWS
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>>97443513
>retard with terrible humor cannot edit an image himself
shock
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>>97443090
The art is good. Hate the flavor text though.
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>>97443461
And very expensive
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not every card should be good but damn
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>>97443525
>getting your panties in a twist over an objectively good joke
homo
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>>97443612
made me chukle, thanks bro
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>>97443273
Jund landfall has insane potential with all the payoffs and enablers. I would suggest more ramp, draw and boardwipes. Gitrog and Korvold kinda do the draw part already. But without a list, it's hard to make good suggestions anyway.
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>>97443273
if t5 eliminations are common, he needs a strong commander and invest a few hundred $. you don't just upgrade a precon for that kind of power level.
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>>97442733
>TQ
This cutie all the way
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>>97443190
There's been some additions since I took this.
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>>97443022
Inflation’s a bitch. What would have cost $250 in 2020 has inflated to over $300 today, and that’s just baseline inflation without looking at how specific cards have changed price. Most $50 lists from back then would almost certainly clear $100 today at a bare minimum.
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>>97443054
>I'm just not really sure why you dislike cards like worn powerstone in this?
I don't like mana rocks in general because they will get caught up in a sweeper. Monowhite can land ramp just fine and doesn't need artifact support.
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>>97443097
Yes. The other bracket 2 players will hate you.
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New to deckbuilding, I tried making a spellslinger. Sugestions?

https://deckstats.net/decks/293413/4351618-fire-lord-azula-spellslinger

>Also, can you fix her anon?
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>>97443273
>turn 5 eliminations are fairly common at this store, and most combo off not long after
This is not a Precon friendly environment.
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>>97443820
Didn't check the list but you're running Azula so if you have 10+ instants you're probably fine.
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I only build mono-color decks anymore, buying expensive lands is miserable.
They should just print like 15 more command tower clones honestly.
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>>97443849
You can still build 2 color on a budget unless you NEED shocklands or you get the shakes.
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>>97443859
This. 2c is easy unless you want to go insane with tons of multi color pip cards. 3c is where the trouble starts.
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>>97443859
yeah, 2 color on a budget works. 3c is ass with budget lands.
>hurr durr just use tapped lands
as I said, ass
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>TQ
3/3 golems, I miss the standard deck I had with these guys
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>TQ
Love how solid this dude looks. Makes me want to build a soldier deck just because of how cool this token is.
Back when card kingdom would still draw them if you asked, I had a myr token I loved to death. They're my favorite creature type and all the other myr tokens don't capture their round lil circle eye like the mana dork cycle gave them. I loved that design for how endearing it made them look but it only lasted through original mirrodin, new phyrexia block made them too varied for my taste
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>>97442887
Honestly think Oketra's monument would be a better pick than worn powerstone just because of how creature heavy you are
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>>97443028
WoTC is forced by Hasbro to have % of characters be of different races because suits cannot understand nuance but DO understand market research says being 'diverse' will sell investor shares and also move product as Gen Z and Millenials prefer to buy from 'good' companies.
They're also money-grubbing enough to know premium products sell for premium prices, and there's enough racist chuds that will shell out extra to get asian/white characters on cards in things like secret lairs and collector packs. So for the c-suite it's a win-win.
It's really annoying because WoTC has a pretty good track record of representation prior to this shit, excepting shit like invoke prejudice getting slipped in here and there.
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>>97444314
>here’s why actually diversity is a corporate psyop
>also gosh darn it I love diversity I just wish it wasn’t a corporate psyop!
You are completely mindbroken
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>>97443090
You don’t need anything, control your piggy urges.
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>>97444139
Nice pick. What commander would you run for soliders? I'd probably go with pic because it has good art and I could run Mirari's Wake, though white green is not as classy as mono white for soldiers.
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>>97443588
>objectively good joke
How? Genuinely what's the joke here anon?
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>>97444515
That JAWS is 1 letter away from JEWS. Do you need chatGPT to explain word play to you?
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>>97444515
the joke has a lot of depth
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>>97444515
>>97444553
>>97444560
>Wordplay is funny because it creates a quick, low-effort surprise. Your brain predicts one meaning, then a tiny change—like swapping a single letter—forces an instant reinterpretation. That snap from “expected” to “unexpected” produces a small cognitive jolt, which we experience as humor.
>Single-letter switches are especially effective because they feel almost wrong: the words are so close that the mistake seems accidental, yet the new meaning is intentional. That tension between error and cleverness makes the joke land. It also rewards the listener for noticing the shift, giving a brief feeling of intelligence or insider understanding.
>In short, minimal change + maximal meaning shift = comedy.
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>>97444553
Whats the wordplay anon? You just changed a letter. What is the joke?
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>>97444566
what chatgpt doesn't see
>movie made by a famous jew
>the shark on the artwork has a long nose
>"relentless predator"
>(loan) shark
it's an objectively great joke on many levels
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>>97444586
>Whats the wordplay anon? You just changed a letter
chatGPT literally already explained word for word how changing 1 letter is wordplay and why it is funny in the post you are replying to.

Are you seriously saying you are dumber than silicon and electricity?
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>>97444613
It actually doesnt explain that at all, it hardly even explains what word play is. It also isnt identifying the apparent joke beyond "word play" word play is funny, because it makes sense. How does this make any sense? I think youre all just discount racists who simply giggle at the word jew.
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looking for opinions on this- in a bracket 4 deck in Naya, would you run both REB and Pyroblast? Currently I have just pyroblast, but I have been thinking about also slotting in REB mainly cause I have an alpha copy.

in trade, here is an old ms paint drawing i made of mayael (it's a mayael deck)
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>>97444694
>Have access to all of white's "can't cast spells on my turn" and silence effects
Think those are more worthwhile than red counters for just blue, but that's just my 2 cents
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>>97444677
Wow you literally are dumber than an AI, that’s impressive
>change letter in word
>is surprising
>surprise is humorous
>that is wordplay
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which Secret Lairs are you all getting?
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>>97444739
>surprise is humorous
>lolsorandumxd is humorous just because okay!?!?!
Wheres the surprise anon? Whats the joke? You seem to have outsourced your thinking to chatGPT and are completely unable to actually discuss the topic. I will ask again, feel free to use ChatGPT, what is the joke here?
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>>97444587
Eh, incredibly derivative. I'd sooner see an advisor card with a jewish joke rather than a JAWS/JEWS joke.
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>>97444745
I want the mothman one, but I don't know if I will have enough money when it actually drops.
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>>97444508
I do like his built in protection clause, and that he is an anthem. I built a Darien, king of kjeldor deck a while back with pretty much everything you expect but unsurprisingly no one wants to deal damage to you once you have a soul sister effect out so it really didn't work how I wanted. Not sure who I'd do it with now, I think I'd want something that lets me go a little more mechanically complex than just go wide, at least use the soldiers for something
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>>97444774
Urborg + Karma. There is plenty of self damage anon :)
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>>97444716
that is a fair point. usually, it boils down to wanting to keep the counters or disruption to be 1 mana, as I run a few tamiyo's safekeeping effects, because my main issue is keeping mayael to stick around, since obviously the deck falls apart without her. I have been thinking about reprieve, as it replaces itself and is very flexible, but holding up two mana can be hard when I need to play on tempo to peel away with a lead. I hadn't thought about just running something like grand abolisher, due to weenie creatures not being my MO, but maybe it's just worth it to drop it on turn two or so. Although, two white pips might be hard to get early. A number of my rainbow lands care about creature types, like cavern of souls and secluded courtyard. however, another thing to note is that mayael doesn't really care much about her own turn once she is out, as its common to activate her in response to things. REB and Pyroblast are good shutdowns for things like cyc rift and also have flexibility to shut down things like rhystic study, or blow up the blue player's commander.

much to think about. here's another mspaint masterpiece as a thanks for imput
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>>97444767
doesn't change the fact that it's objectively great
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>TQ
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>>97444781
Green at its worst is racist but wotc is too chicken shit lib to even give a token representation of that side of green that's why they retconned nissa and the best we're going to get is dumb muscle like vorinclex
>nice drawing btw
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>>97444799
>watermark
Post it when you own it.
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>>97444791
Its really embarrassing watching you make a bad joke and then cope over and over about it.
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>>97444844
We're not the ones coping over how people talk in 4chan btw
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>>97444844
it's kinda strange how a little joke makes you so upset
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>>97444774
Green has some cute potential noncombat ways of using tokens. You got Glare of Subdual and various things that make your tokens mana dorks. Put a Quest for Renewal next to either of those effects and you can make more mana than god or bully people off the board. If you wanna get really freaky with it you can also run Symbiotic Deployment. Sac outlets also pull their weight in token decks of course.
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Wakanda forever my dudes
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>>97444385
>chud retard doesn't understand nuance
many such cases
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>>97444746
The surprise is it’s supposed to say JAWS but doesnt.
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>>97444587
>Loan Shark
Damn, that one I didn't catch. Nice.
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>>97444844
I’m gonna call you JEWSanon
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>>97445035
The nuance is you understand that corporations promote diversity but it was successful in affecting you so now you can’t detach yourself from an idea fed to you to make line go up
>inb4 “nah uh!!! I was always into diversity!!!!”
Fucking guarantee you watched shit like The Magic School Bus and Barney & Friends which depicted kids like the model UN
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>>97445059
my day keeps getting better thanks to you
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>>97443453
Have you had much success with Kadena? I try to build her to shit out value but if you include all face down cards anybody with 2 IQ realizes your deck just...stops working if they remove her. Having to pay 3 for a 2/2 that you can maybe flip later slows you down so bad it's unreal.
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>>97443512
Card is stupid good in an Isshin deck, I will be slotting it into my Joshua Graham deck.
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>when the two guys with the strongest decks at the table team up against the guy with the weakest deck at the table because they know eachother
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>>97445172
Does this actually happen or did you just invent two imaginary people?
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>>97445172
Bro stop being weak, duh
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/mtg/ didnt answer my question so Ill ask here

Do the following costs count as the cmc on the stack, which is to say the base cmc of the card?

> mayhem
> webslinging
> flashback
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>>97445226
Add warp and evoke to that question list as well.
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>>97445226
The cmc of a card on the stack is equal to the little mana symbols you see on the top right of any given card. Additional or alternative costs do not affect cmc.
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>>97445226
>>97445229
Mana value of a CARD refers to the mana printed in the top right of the card.
Mana value of a SPELL refers to the mana spent to cast that spell.

ie it applies to evoke, x spells, etc.
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>>97445255
>>97445261
Thanks.
Im brewing a ghetto pauper deck
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>>97444774
That's kind of the point. Like the other anon said, there is plenty of self-damage sources you should be using to bring out the soldiers and then buff/overrun effects to win.
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>>97445123
Colorless support like Ugin as well as cost reductions help. The problem I run into is bricking with the Manifest mechanic. Etrata does so much for the deck it's unreal and I consider just switching to a deck led by her, but some of the best facedown cards are green.
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>>97445261
It only works that way with x spells. An evoked Solitude can still be countered with Disdainful Stroke and still triggers Up the Beanstalk.
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>>97445123
>Having to pay 3 for a 2/2 that you can maybe flip later slows you down so bad it's unreal.
Have you not looked into her tech in the last like.. 5+ years? We have a ton of completely-free facedown stuff, now. Cloak, disguise, manifest, manifest dread, etc etc all just shit out a ton of cards facedown for you, for free, which draws you a ton of cards every turn
>your deck just...stops working if they remove her
This is the vast majority of decks. You're in blue, which has counterspells, and in green, which has a ton of cheap instants that give hexproof until EoT.
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>>97445418
I do put those in, but eventually people get tired of seeing me draw a ton of cards and blast her out of the game.
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>>97445436
That's how you know you're doing good. Protect her, draw a ton of cards to out value everyone, win the game.
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>Wizards went out of their way to say there would specifically be no Ghost Rider card in the Marvel set
Only thing I could possibly have wanted. Thanks UB slop!
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Had a strange experience when someone commented on the board state of me and my friends and didn't understand how we were having fun when there's cancer cards on board like rhystic study and kefka
And when I told him we just target the person or do spite plays specifically to fuck that one person over, he asked how is that fun, how is it fun to be so toxic in commander, he started to sound upset when I told him my deck was a counter pick to kefka, he asked me why I would counter pick my own friends and make the game worse
It's so fucking strange to me how randoms have so many arbitrary rules and systems, me and my friends just drink and play fucking whatever even if it's worse then precon level to borderline cedh decks
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>>97445455
Why, because skeleton head?
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>>97442733
>TQ
For me its male, white, non-hispanic hero token
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What are some really fucking weird play style decks I could build, I really like how vanithar plays since I've never really seen other decks that play like that. I also built mutate tatsunari, which I'm excited to try this weekend
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>>97445478
Like most unique snowflake me in his 30s, he's my favorite Marvel character as well as my gfs
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I was curious of making this deck because Vehicles always intrigued me but my question is, would it still be playable without the commander in play?

My issue with a lot of decks is as soon as the commander goes, the deck becomes unplayable
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>>97445363
You probably have them but the theft deck from otj has a lot of sleeper hit manifest cards
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>>97445478
Ghost rider is not a member of the F4, not an avenger, not affiliated with dr doom, and not a wakandan so he doesnt get in
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>>97445485
Atla Palani, creature lottery. I have a deck that's 85 cards no creatures, with 30 creatures ranging from "very good" to "incredibly bad" that I shuffle face down, deal out 15, then shuffle those 15 creatures into the deck. Then whenever an egg dies I roll the lottery to see what I get. Here's the list of creatures I run:
https://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/26-01-26-mpb-deck-paste/
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>>97445485
who?
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>>97445455
They actually outright said he's not going to be on a card?
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>>97445505
Hasn't almost everyone been a member of the Avengers? Surely one version of him would have qualified.
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>>97445538
Given there are so many versions of marvel heroes out there and there's limited space in a set wotc is bound to only use the most popular setting which is Earth-616; johnny blaze ghost rider isnt an avenger there
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>>97445505
Ghost Rider mogs majority of the Marvel universe. They're just scared of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73P7b9k0xI
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>>97445505
>not an avenger

Fingers crossed for my nigga iron fist. I'll take Dr. Strange, but really hoping for Iron Fist.
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>>97445572
>flaming skeleton
>on a motor cycle
>never mentioned before this episode
>shows up
>kills galactus
>leaves
man, he's so fucking cool
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>>97443047
Needs removal and maybe a couple Fog effects.
I would also swap in some duals, even if they're taplands for budget reasons, to smooth out the mana base.
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>>97445572
Holy fuck that was one minute of kino.
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>>97445572
were these originally animated for a language besides english? I never understood how the delivery was so bizarre and still matched the mouth (skull) flaps.
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>TQ
You asked, these are my favorites.
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>>97442933
I need more armpit angels
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Do I finally take apart my kaalia deck, I don't think I've played her in like 6 months, but she was the first deck I actually built and has a special place in my heart
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>>97445779
If you need cards from it, sure, if not, no reason to not hold onto it.
Kaalia was also one of my first decks, but holy shit I found her really boring.
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>>97445779
I reworked my Gwyn deck into Shanid because a 6 drop commander isn't cutting it in 2026. I wanted to keep her in the 99 but couldn't find a spot
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>be me, 'timmy' player playing fun decks
>unc stormjizz finna piss everyone off with 'pay the 1' all game
>unc starts his combo fin ah shi 2 others try to gleeb it but cant stop it with free counterspells
>shiiiiiiiii bruh huyr mert comboooooo
>mana tithe when he uses all of his mana
>unc's hairline recedes another 2 inches as he passes
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Don't care if its UB. My favorite Fallout character so I'm gonna make him. Luckily its a good card
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>>97445822
You can talk like a normal person, but you choose to speak like a retard instead.
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>>97445787
I fell in love with her design and I enjoyed bringing out bing things and being archenemy regardless of the table, and learning how she worked with master of cruelties was one of the things that made me interested in magics mechanics
After some time I tried to make her angel tribal but didn't really have that much fun with it, but she just has a special place in my heart even if I don't play her anymore, and it's not even like my friends think she's that bad or cancer to play against. I only had problems playing with randoms when I started
I'm still tempted on building bruna/Gisella meld as paired commanders
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>>97445825
>they snuck a .45 into the art even if he's not allowed to hold it like a gun
Unfathomably based artist.
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>>97445900
i dont think wotc gives a shit at this point as long as the neet bux are rolling
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>>97445825
I love the art but I kinda hate that they chose Isshin.
Yes Joshua can be wrathful be is ultimately a pretty merciful dude so making him the center of a combat focused deck feels weird.
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>>97445825
They should have made him mechanically unique
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>>97445947
Thiiiis! magic universe is so lame and I want the card to be valuable due to artificial scarcity
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>>97445900
Does GW even care about UB stuff? They had a fucking Warhammer 40k set that definitely had people holding and shooting guns.
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>>97445900
fortunately it's lore accurate as joshua is very capable of pistol whipping someone to death if it came down to it
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>>97445744
Holy cringe
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>>97443190
Just got a Sokenzan and Song of Totentanz to add to this
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>>97445941
He's merciful unless the killing needs to be done then he's the scariest person you could encounter.

Also Isshin mainly enables other creatures to attack, you almost never actually have to attack with him
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With the way this general tends to dislike UB, you guys would probably hate my Granblue deck I made out of homemade proxies of existing cards
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>>97446029
They generally seem to shy away from real-world guns at the least. 40k's guns are very explicitly fantastical in nature.
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>>97446083
Post it or be a lying faggot
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>>97446091
Can't post the whole thing because its custom but I just made a deck of female draphs
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name a non snooze fest simic/bant commander.
pro tip: you cant
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>>97443097
you've already lost the only game that matters if you play with anyone who cares that much and doesn't just build a stronger B2 deck or move to B1 instead of moaning about it
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>>97446112
ich tekik + ishai with all the splicers that make 3/3 golems
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>>97446104
>I can't post it because its custom
That's not a rule, and this isn't a picture of the printed card. Post the printed cards.
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>>97446112
Check this out
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>>97446042
Nah. I'm based.
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>>97443190
>removal tribal heap
Actually based.
>>97443444
>green combo slop
>gaea's cradle
Jail.
>>97444456
Cute deck but it feels like so many moving parts that it will collapse under its own weight 9 times to out of 10. Very respectable however.
>>97446065
>slop
>poorly built
>will still win random games because Purphoros is gay
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>>97446112
Tidus precon, upgrade it to lean into different counters. Shit gets goofy
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>>97445825
Christ is King
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>>97443097
Reanimating Gin Gitaxias is bracket 1 legal, man, do whatever you want
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>>97446170
It's meant to be the end of the night "we need a fast game" deck. It will burn everyone down or die trying and that's fine by me I don't actually have a non-UB commander, sorry anon. I'm gonna get the goblin precon though
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>TQ
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>>97444774
>Darien got nerfed by the ban of Mana Crypt
Poor lad.
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>>97445505
>Ghost rider is not a member of the F4
...?
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>>97445744
i would unironically punch you if you dared to play with those tokens against me
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Is he actually decent, or at least fun to play for a mill deck
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>TQ
I've got a soft spot for this boros goblin token. Especially after the one art of Mentor Of The Meek. Makes me wish we had an actual boros goblin commander.
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>>97446302
He's just pillowfort with big bursts of mill that make your commander a target when you go for game.
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>>97443190
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>>97445744
dogshit
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>>97446278
that's danny ketch, not johnny blaze
>but how come nick fury is black in mtg when fury is originally white-
not only did marvel create nick fury jr in earth-616 who's from a black woman mtg would trip over themselves to insert a black man that's more popular than the original white character
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>>97446337
I just wanna find a mill deck I like, I tried dimir mill with Tasha that turned into nagthrod, but I took it apart, I want something that's almost pure mill so hope seemed like it might be fun
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>>97446208
holy shit a Kandra
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>>97445825
Its the first time I ever bothered to buy a SL. I cant wait to do the three reasons monologue at randos.
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>>97446439
Honestly he's so unique that you might have fun with him if he's built right
>I want something that's almost pure mill
Bruvac is your only option, honestly. He's the only "mill and nothing else" commander out there.
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>>97446439
Play mothman
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>>97446482
>winter storm
>ice/rain/snow
>name of fire-based walker
Are you dumb?
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>>97446482
damn who knew chandra gushed that hard
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>>97446455
At least with the list I was making it seemed fun, il probably build hope and at least try him, I like the concept of his mill alot, I also like lifegain decks
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>>97446489
Oh buddy if only you knew what Reality Fracture had in store for you
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>>97443107
There is no actual Giada character anyway because she was the mcguffin of that story
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>>97446499
>il probably build hope and at least try him
You'll get much *much* more positive reactions at the table than if you showed up with Bruvac, that's for sure. You're in blue, so bring the proper amount of protection, people are gonna freak out the first time you blast the table for 50+ cards milled. And since you'll be gaining a bunch of life, you can run stuff like this to stall
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>>97446490
I bet chandra doesn't even understand gush.
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>>97446529
>>97446490
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>>97446508
I already knew about it, and I'm incredibly stoked for it.
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>>97446527
He should be fine in against my friends, I'm also used to playing with and against kill on sight shit, il probably try him as a super greedy mill, then if it struggles il change up the list to be more defensive
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>>97446508
>will Jace finally be the white male chad protagonist that normies want? or will he remain a twinky monster fucker like wotc wants him to be?
i'm mildly interested
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>>97446564
Why not both?
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>>97446564
He's literally going to be the villain
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>>97446588
if vraska becomes a normal human so that jace can finally have a child with her sure i guess
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>>97446538
I hate this picture because I literally had a woman like this at my LGS and she shared her twitter with me and it was all Oko and Jace fucking and giving Oko Top Scars
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>>97446595
Jace has already rewritten reality so that is not necessary
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>>97446592
that nose though
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>>97446602
>he shared her twitter with me and it was all Oko and Jace fucking and giving Oko Top Scars
She wants to peg you anon
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>>97446603
this image will go stonks later in the year
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>>97446602
This is so supportive
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>>97446614
Invest now
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>>97446605
Sir that is a Roman nose
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>>97443734
What is a "strong commander" in this case
>>97443717
here you go, lol
https://moxfield.com/decks/z4iIQoHd4ECI0GNv5H1u3g
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>>97446706
Well, they certainly lived under Roman rule anyway... where's that shark photoshop?
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>>97442933
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>>97446742
ok this made me chuckle
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>>97442933
>>97446742
I don't get it.
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>>97446112
Edric
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>>97446774
>pit
>armpit
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>>97446742
But then I was like
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>>97446802
hold it right there
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>got the new fallout SLs
>mutant menace precon is unobtanium
Guess im building moth man from scratch. How cringe should I be?
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>>97446279
>I would commit assault over shitty tokens and proxies.
You do you buddy.
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>>97446742
When is Chippy coming back? Did he die or something?
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>>97443820
I don't get how so many Azula decks are so optimistic. My practice one needed so much draw and protection and evasion to avoid durdling that by the time I had the absolute essentials I had about 7-8 cards to actually pump her up with.
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>>97446279
Aww watch out we got a big man on the Internet over here!
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>>97446112
Using her with the SUMMONS is soulful. Unfortunately there's not enough in game yet to make a cohesive deck so you'll be using a lot of copy enchantment cards too.
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>>97446821
Wait is that his dick and balls
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>>97446852
>When is Chippy coming back? Did he die or something?
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>>97446838
Full mill = most cringe
Self-mill reanimate =little cringe/not cringe
Little mill bit tribal go wide = based.
imho
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Commander to feel like pic related?
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>>97446894
Are we talking a sleepy guy or a fucking Yuumi clone?
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>>97446894
I don't know what the fuck that is
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This video is a mental breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwCv3k0SN8

This is what UB does to a mfer
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I finished all of the lotrs movies and it made me wanna play aragorn, then I remember he got "we wuz kangs'd"
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>>97446938
This guy has been a mindbroken cuck for at least two years now
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>>97446938
Magic has a BIG Bitter Middle Aged Manchild Who Refuses To Fuck Off problem.
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>>97446986
Thiiis bro! inclusivity is a good thing except when it comes to the original players of this game
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>>97446877
>unfortunately there's not enough summons in the game
this is what modern magic players actually believe
learn the lore and lurk more
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>>97446938
>This is what UB does to a mfer
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>no more prerelease promo stamps
>no more collector's sample packs in precons
>entire year is stacked with Spiderman-tier sets
They had such an incredible tailwind with Final Fantasy last year, why are they deciding to massively rape the game's popularity for no reason now?
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>>97447064
It probably has something to do with wotc being chronically retarded since their inception.
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>>97446894
Kwain
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>>97447064
2027 will be the year of UB anime, trust
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>>97446878
Huh. I mean... most likely??
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>>97446821
Oh hey, it's one of my dream commanders. One of these days I'll get around to building him
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>>97447064
>Whale'd out for Lorwyn
>mfw not buying a single product for the rest of the year
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>>97447064
>Hasbros execs on record saying WotC needs to spend less and make more
Geez anon, I wonder. Why don't you blame the owners/capitalism as a whole and not the company itself.
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>>97447006
Not saying all oldfags should go, but there's always a handful of dudes that should probably be doing something else with their midlife crisis.
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>>97447043
Learn the lore of what, Final Fantasy? When i say there's not enough summons in the game, I'm referring to the game of magic, where Bant Yuna has exactly 14 cards that trigger her ability.
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>>97447186
lol you fucking beautiful retard
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That's it I'm building Morcant, I can't resist her any longer

>>97447143
This is what I did. Went to a pre-release, bought one collector booster, a booster box and both precons. Now I'm set to not need any more boosters for the rest of the year. Unless we get a really good Monster Hunter secret lair to make up for the last one they tried.
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>>97447064
>>97447143
Then leave???
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>>97447006
>UB is excluding middle aged uncs from playing the game
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>>97447192
>I won't clarify what I'm referring to I'll just make vague retarded statements and call you the retard for trying to figure out what my retarded ass it trying to refer to

aight have a good day retard
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>>97447150
But anon told me Hasbro is valued at 1500000000000000 gajillion dollars? Why do they have to tighten the belt and cut costs so much?!
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>>97447150
I blame jews for essentially codifying this behavior into law with Dodge v Ford.
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>>97443299
Ovika Ramp
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>>97447198
>What do you mean you don't want to consume Marvel, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Star Trek product! I can't imagine someone not planning on spending all their money on Secrets of Strixhaven!
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>>97447064
They fundamentally do not understand that Marvel is different from Final Fantasy. They assume that Final Fantasy printed money, and therefore every UB set from now on will print equal or more money.
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>>97447212
>Dodge v Ford
Truly the start of the downfall of this country. I've been saying it unironically for at least 25 years.
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>>97447278
>They assume that Final Fantasy printed money
they've been assuming that since secret lair walking dead and out of every UB only spider-man was a disappointment
but hey don't let your confirmation bias stop you
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>>97447143
same. ill do draft and prerelease for the two shitty UW sets we have left this year but other than that i frontloaded everything in january
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>>97447198
Magic is an old game anon. I don't need new cards to keep brewing and playing. I ate good in Lorwyn and I can rest easy for the rest of the year.
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This feels really undervalued, though I am glad its super cheap.
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>>97447452
It annoys me to no end that this is a flip card. Isilu and Eirdu aren't even the same beings it makes no fucking sense.
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>>97447457
>This feels really undervalued
it's basically a grim poppet and a mikaeus piece with extra steps
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>>97447006
>bro ALL THE ORIGINAL PLAYERS are racist and right wing like me
I'm not?
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>>97447064
How do we know these sets are weak and poorly designed and changed mid production like spider-man?
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I'm just getting back into Magic after a long time, never played EDH. What's a good starting point for making an absolutely autistic and cancerous mono black deck
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>>97447590
Pick up one of these. Theft and forced discard will make you win at least 50% of the time just from group scoops.
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>>97447581
only one or the other then?
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>>97447143
>thought lorwyn was underwhelming as fuck and unfun limited environment
>probably whale for TMNT
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>>97447609
>thought lorwyn was underwhelming as fuck and unfun limited environment
do people just say this when they lose and "say [X] was a great limited env" because they won a lot in that set
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>>97447143
>>97447609
> whaled for lorwyn
> will whale for star trek
Until then I sleep
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>went to 2 pre releases for Lorwyn
>will not attend any further drafts or pre releases
>will just buy singles for decks I want to make
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>>97447461
They can't, however, ever occupy the other's territory. Where Isilu is, it's Shadowmoor. Where Eirdu is, it's Lorwyn.
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>>97447609
>whale for TMNT
>>97447689
>whale for star trek

Vomit-inducing! :)
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>>97447587
That's not why Spiderman failed, though it contributed.
If FF had been a lower power set it still would've been very successful because its flavor has much greater overlap with MtG player demographics, even people who never played an FF game were able to appreciate the cards for that reason.
Spiderman was a shit ugly set with 50 iterations of the same character, set in a "plane" that has literally no overlap with traditional MTG flavor at all.
Sets like that exclusively appeal to fans of that specific brand, they lack the broader appeal of LotR, FF, 40K or DnD sets.
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>>97447823
FF is anime slop and I'm tired of pretending that it somehow fits in with MTG more than, say, Dr. Who does.
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>>97447874
Sadly nobody cares what you personally think of it.
Most MTG players evidently don't take issue with japanese aesthetics or even actively enjoy them given that anime-style treatments consistently are among the most expensive versions of cards.
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Should it be a CG?
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my commanders, your response?
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>>97447979
Happy for you, anon. I hope you enjoy playing your deck
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>>97447979
>"I don't play UB slop. Got anything else?"
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>>97447974
The odds of you fucking yourself over with it turn 1 is as high as you doing it to your opps.
The turn 1 bm is the only reason why anyone would argue it would be a game changer, but it doesn't knock you out of the game like it would with MLD.
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>>97448008
>>97448008
>The odds of you fucking yourself over with it turn 1 is as high as you doing it to your opps.
It's the perfect red card.
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>>97448008
Turn 1 bm is some of the best shit you can pull in this game. Countering a T1 Sol Ring produces sublime levels of salt
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>>97447974
I've lost to T1 winds before, never got to play a single card
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>>97448035
>I've lost to T1 winds before
Literally impossible? You DO know you draw that many cards again, right??
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>>97448111
>Shuffle
>Draw
>no lands
>Can't mulligan
>Don't draw into lands for 4 turns
It can happen.
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>>97448115
it was a 5 or 6 player game so I conceded after drawing no lands twice
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>>97446737
edhrec top 300 is a good start
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I'm taking out the Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood combo from this deck. It just feels icky, even though I have a lifegain alt theme with it.
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>>97448162
use something infinitely more useful like bloodletter of aclazotz + fraying omnipotence instead
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>>97445744
food token about to make me start acting up
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>>97445744
I reserve my goon tokens for goldfishing with myself only because rampant gooner discrimination.
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>>97446359
I need more cheaper removal
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Why do coomgoys always use hideous AI proxies?
Have some standards and design decent looking ones at least, I can't fathom being this lazy and tasteless.
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>>97448208
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>TQ
I like the Duskmourn Manifest tokens.
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>>97448171
That's cool, but that one card is almost $50. I think I'm just going to replace them with some lifelink white creatures and/or card draw. It's a bracket 2/3 afterall.
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>>97448208
>I can't fathom being this lazy
You think it takes more effort to just google a booru and slap it into a formatting website?
That's just silly.
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>>97443299
Eldrazi
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>>97448213
earthbend 3 is a straight upgrade to nissa as normally her animate land doesn't come back if destroyed or exiled
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>>97448248
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Is a decent deck with this guy even possible? Seems like it should be an Abzan colors.
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>>97447823
Yes, it is why it failed. If you generally think it was due to IP then you are an idiot.
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>>97447979
I play 2nd and Vislor Turlough so my response would be "Another 2nd Doctor player? Based."
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>>97448004
No one asked you to play the deck you dumb meathead
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>>97448408
>grabs deck and dangles it over you
>"huh? huh? what was that?"
>draws 7
>checks hand
>"1 land? looks like it's time for a... MULLIGAN!"
>throws deck through the LGS door onto the street, cards splattering everywhere
>"anyways, got anything else?"
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>>97448425
>teleports behind you
>hits you 3000 times in 4 seconds
>walk out
>"Oame wo shimderoo"
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>>97448434
>"Guys... I don't feel so good... please... take care of the... LGS..."
>dies
>wakes up again
>"and fuck UB"
>dies for real
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>>97448339
why are there only two options for black companions and zero for doctors
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>TFW the rest of the pod are all in a polycule
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>>97448513
I don't speak tranny so I don't know that feeling
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>>97448509
Because these were precons that had to adhere to theme and color identity.
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>>97448528
>Missy
>Legendary Creature - Time Lord Doctor Rogue
>The Master Repealed
>Legendary Creature - Time Lord Doctor Rogue
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>>97448537
Yes?
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>>97448541
they could've easily done that but chose not to
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>>97448549
You wanted them to place some of the doctors in the grixis villains deck?
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>>97448321
>guy
traditionally she's boardwipe tribal or some kind of worldslayer or worldfire setup.
she's sort of a control finisher, do whatever you feel like. oops all removal, stax, funny color angel tribal
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>>97448248
he's a secondary. enjoy every retard referring to all land animation as earthbending even though they're different and getting banned from your lgs for calling them manlands
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Thinking about making an otter deck
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>>97448612
anotter deck? you have 14 decks, how many do you need?
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>>97445455
>>97445505
Ghost Rider is probably going to get into a mystical themed Marvel set
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>>97446112
Momir Vig
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>>97445572
No cape character has a consistent power level. People talk about shit loike DB power scaling but that shit is way more consistent than cape shit.

This is so you can have a story where the Suicide Squad kills Super Man with bullets, and then have another story where Super Man is stronger than the Abrahamic God.
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>5 person game
>cast Kardur Doomscourge from the 99
>it dies before my next turn, force opponents to attack each other anyways
>next turn, Animate Dead Kardur to do it again.
>It dies before my next turn
>My next turn, cast Rise of the Dark Realms to get back Kardur and bunch of my opponents' shit that died over the last two Kardur cycles
Love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>feel bad because I'm failing at making a low power budget deck play smoothly
>at least it won a game after like 10 losses in a row
>friends go crazy
>"noooo don't optimize it, this is the first time in a long while were we could bring out our low power decks and have fun with them against you"
I guess I can leave the deck like it is...
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>>97448149
hearthhull is rank 61 on that list
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>>97448750
it's just a good start to look for strong commanders. if building on a budget, competitive pauper EDH is also an excellent source to find strong commanders that are often underrated in regular EDH.
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>>97448735
kardur is my man. goes in every rakdos deck in one of the interaction slots, especially since my table loves creatures and combat damage.
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>>97447143
>Still buying product
You literally are just as bad as anyone else. You people are so fucking stupid its unreal.
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>>97448860
k commie
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>>97448862
>commie
No, retard. If you buy *any* product you are supporting the slopmachine, regardless if you think this is good slop. You have no leg to stand on for UB buyers because you enable the machine just as much as they do.
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>>97448878
It's a consumer hobby. Go fishing, you wop.
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>>97448860
nta, one of my best friends is poor as fuck and recently bought an entire lorwyn box. did a 4p draft and pulled maybe 2 cards over 10€. he doesn't even like the game enough to play it at the LGS, he only wants to play with friends. some people are lost.
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>build deck
>pimp it out
>costs me a small fortune
>don’t enjoy playing it, even tho i tested it multiple times while building it
i am fucked.
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>>97449061
Don't bling out the deck unless you are sure you like playing it. It's never worth it. You won't like the deck just because you pumped a lot of money into it. You got to play it first to find out.
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>>97449061
Why would you bling out a deck that isn't some deck you've been playing for years and love? I've been blinging out one deck I have but it is a deck I've had for years and spent much time tweaking and building.
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>>97449061
>love brewing and testing against friends
>proxy decks worth several hundreds of dollar (print them myself, sleeve over real cards)
>play them a couple of times, lose interest
>proxy budget decks
>have a lot more fun pretending to be the underdog with obscure jank cards
>have to constantly tune the decks to keep up with my table's power level which is the part that is most fun to me
>actually complete the decks and turn them 100% original
gut, my beloved hobo bling commander
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>>97449074
>>97449079
because if i build a deck first and then bling it out i feel like i am wasting twice as much money buying the same cards.
i don’t know, either way i feel stupid about it all.
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>>97449093
well you can always sell the cards, and you learned something along the way, so nothing was lost really.
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>>97449093
You don't start out with the most expensive stuff. That's a bad idea. Start the deck out cheap with what you have on hand in your collection. Then upgrade as you go if you like how it plays. You'll get an idea of how it plays, if you like how it plays, and where you can spend more to upgrade it as you go.
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>just noticed edhrec ranks partner commanders popularity based on what they are paired with separately instead of adding all different instances together
gut would be top 600 instead of being splintered below rank 1300
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>>97449061
You gotta figure out your playstyle. I built a dozen decks when i first started only to find out all I like is aggro either via token spam or big ass voltron. Thankfully I proxied the vast majority of the decks.

Don't try to play something you inherently don't like. If you want new decks just build your playstyle in new colors.
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>>97449061
i love this webm
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>>97449093
The only deck I blinged out I proxies another copy so I never have to worry about others touching/bending/natural decay on cards that see a lot of play. You can just do the same, but you have real cards as spares.
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Retard question here. Is the ability to exile the card and then cast the non-adventure half later an effect that must be stated on the card or is it an inherent ability of all adventures?
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>>97449234
It's inherent to adventures.
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>>97449193
QRD? I can't figure out what's going on
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can't find the cards I need for my deck..
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>>97449341
proxy
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>>97448883
Thiiis man! if one has any problems with a hobby they should just leave.
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>FF6 Shadow isn't a ninja
Starting to think I will never not find more shit to complain about with the FF UB
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>>97449414
>no selphie
>no irvine
>no fujin
>no raijin
>lionheart is useless in squall
>no one from FF8 can run balamb garden in their deck
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I wish I had non-retards to play bracket 2 with. Like playing precons with people who know how priority works or not to use swords to plowshares at sorcery speed is a lot more fun than playing daycare while trying to play a game.
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>>97449470
based
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>>97449470
>plays format for babies
>shocked he is playing against babies
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>>97449470
Bracket 2 is a good time when your experienced group wants to power down to play stupid pet cards instead of going balls to the walls tryhard. It's torture when it's precon city with retarded noobs.
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>>97449375
Yes, actually. Either that or ignore the part they don't like. Anything else is either unreasonable or general not feasible. What, what do YOU think one should do when they encounter a problem in a hobby they can't fix themselves?
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>>97449492
this. I started to play low power budget stuff more and friends slowly started to play weaker decks themselves. slinging stupid jank at each other feels a lot better than everyone playing extreme powerhouses.
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>even shareholders want them to stop shitting out goyslop at the current rate
Who are they doing this for?
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>>97449543
themselves. they want every card printed to be a black lotus in 10 years.
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>>97449543
>it's real
no fucking way

>The second, and perhaps even spicier, accusation is the allegation that Hasbro management essentially faked being out of stock of the controversial, extremely expensive Magic 30th Anniversary Set in order to encourage demand. If you're not familiar, this was an unhinged $999 box that contained four booster packs of non-tournament legal reprints of original Magic cards, some of which Wizards had sworn it would never reprint. This box garnered massive criticism due to its price, the fact that the cards weren't even usable, and the seemingly broken promise on the part of Wizards not to reprint classics such as, say, Black Lotus.

>According to testimony from several members of leadership shared in the complaint, following the negative reaction from players at this announcement, management made a plan to "pause" sales of the set if it became apparent that they were weaker than anticipated. The company said the "sale has concluded, and the product is currently unavailable for purchase," in a post on X (then Twitter), implying they had sold out, effectively making it look like the product was far more popular than it actually had been. In the lawsuit, plaintiffs accuse the company of claiming the product was "out of stock."

>What happened to the unsold cards after sales were paused, then? The lawsuit goes on:

>"[Former Employee 6] likewise stated that the Company paused its sales of the Magic Anniversary Set less than an hour after its release, only selling a portion of its available inventory. FE 6 further noted that shortly after the set’s release, he and other Wizards employees viewed photographs of Magic Anniversary Sets dropped off at a Texas landfill alongside older Magic products."
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>>97449543
Today you learned about the cycle of CEO's or equivalent crashing the company by maximizing short term profits and taking the sweet severance package when the ship start sinking. All to jump to the next company and start the cycle all over.
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>>97449513
voice their opinion that no-one asked
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>One retard in pod crashes out saying I always win
>Offer to help him improve his decks or give gameplay advice so he can win more often
>He says it doesn't matter because I'll always win
>Another guy crashes out saying dragons are a too powerful tribe compared to everything else and that Ancient Silver Dragon is one of the most difficult creatures in the game to deal with
I'm genuinely getting tired of this shit. I baby these retards constantly in my deckbuilding choices and this is what I get in return.
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>>97449843
>Dragons are too strong
If you are a UR-dragon fag, then I'll have to agree with your friends' crash out.
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>>97449876
>Nooo I can't handle the 8-drop costing 7!
You'll really hate what the commander actually is then.
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>>97449843
>Playing with idiots suck, episode 9^40
Nothing new under the sun
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>>97449880
Only when you post the list will we know whether or not you are a monstrous pubstomper or a righteous jank player.
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Very flavorful
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>>97449843
>Pubstomping noobs with dragons
Sounds like you're doing it to yourself anon.
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>>97449978
Yeah I know it's really hard to stop an 8-mana combat damage trigger with no protection.
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>>97449986
when idiots probably have 3 removal spells in their entire deck, it probably is really hard to stop.
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>>97449843
Now imagine your casual noob friends giving out their hot takes online and expecting others to take them seriously
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>>97449958
Tru
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>>97449880
Being this dishonest about how your deck functions assures me your friends are right and you're an insufferable fag to play with.
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>>97449880
You are a disingenuous piece of shit pubstomper. Out of all dragon commanders, you pick this? Fuck out of here and play a commander that says "Dragon" on it, you fucking fag.
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>>97449325
Gerry leads with City of Traitors, a land that taps for {2} but requires that you sacrifice it when another land enters the battlefield under your control. Andrew draws and doesn’t play a land. Gerry’s next turn, he taps City of Traitors for {2}, then plays a Volcanic Island (forcing him to sacrifice City of Traitors), taps it for {U}, and then casts Show and Tell. He and Andrew both reveal Emrakul, the Aeons-Torn. Emrakul doesn’t have haste, so it’s Andrew’s turn. He swings with Emrakul, Annihilator triggers, Gerry has to sacrifice his Emrakul and his only land and then takes 15. Good game.
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+1 counters are negated by -1 counters right? So would it be possible to perpetually Blight2 on this doggo and hed just keep returning every time as a 2/2?
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>>97450916
Yup, undying and blight always get funky with each other
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>>97450701
kek thanks anon
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>>97450916
Check out modern's golgari Yawgmoth for more inspiration
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>>97451115
>>97451115
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