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Anyone have any Introtech variants for the Quickdraw that improve it from the base variants?
>Candlejack themselves during the Wars of Reav
>>974689065A still has dick for protection but 4x ML and an SRM4 in the forward arc isn't terrible for a 5/8/5 mover unless that wasn't what you were after?
>>97467964My dream MW game? MechWarrior Zero. You play as Kerensky during the Amaris Civil War. Bigger focus on combined arms, company level or more battles and force management.Also, a short expansion, Mechwarrior Minus One, consisting of a few short campaigns covering events from the backstory and introducing new old mechs that haven't been featured yet.>First campaign begins at the beginning with Charles Kincaid in the Mackie fighting the Merkavas, maybe leading up to a final boss fight against a Lyran Ymir.>First Hidden War campaign starring DCMS Mechwarrior who starts with a Gladiator focused on one on one combat.>Reunification War campaign starring TDF Mechwarrior in a Toro.Maybe some others...
Don't suppose anyone has an archive of the MW4 concept art by Eddie Smith? I found some but not many examples of his work and was interested in some of his concepts for mech designs.
>>97468987You want Mechwarrior : Battlezone?
One of these days I'll sit down and make a battletech mod to one of those hex strategy games.Maybe the warhammer 40k one, it has walkers already and someone had some success making a halo mod for it.
>>97468964It's not bad, I'm just curious is anons have come up with any good variants I haven't thought of.Sometimes I start playing around with different weapon combos and get to thinking I'm just making a version of a Shadow Hawk or something, you know what I mean?
Man, ProtoMechs are so cool.
My Word of Blake Militia is coming along nicely. Vehicles and Battle Armour next.
>>97469342Protos seem like a lot of fun but I haven’t subjected anybody in my group to them yet. They are still fairly new, just mechs and battle armor so far.
Having retaken the base in our previous game, the 1st Legio moves to attack the main Word of Blake staging area in the hope of pushing them fully off world.The Militia, with nowhere left to run in the closing days of the Jihad, are forced to make their last stand at the river. It was another Hegemony win, but only just. Most of their mechs were lost and there wasn't one left standing that wasn't a slagged heap of melted armour and fried internals.
The Marian's MVP was the Sasquatch, personal Mech of Centurion Vastan, that BTFO of my King Crab in a close range duel. Was great fun.
>>97469114I find it a struggle to think of anything introtech that doesn't radically transform the Quickdraw into something completely different at which point it no longer is a Quickdraw if you do said changes.
>>97469420That Sasquatch has got some outright swag going about him.
>>97469453Personal mech a patrician who is descended from one of the original founding members of the Hegemony and reach the rank of centurion. He knows how to do style lol
>>97469401>>97469420>Marian Hegemony>Word of Blake>Alpha StrikeAt least you're having fun...
>>97469449The most common thing is to just flip all the guns forward.
>>97469564What if we flipped all the guns backwards instead to mix things up?
>>97469564Flip all the guns forward, turn the LRM10 into 2 LRM5s and spend the extra ton on armour. Which coincidentally is the same improvements the Centurion needs.
>>97469361>>97469401>>97469420Love hearing about this and seeing more picsI have long tried to figure out how to approach a Marian Hegemony project so this is very inspiring to me
>>97469526How can you hate the hegemony?
>>97468906The Kintaro.
>>97469789NTA but they're Irish.
>>97469711Thanks man, the Word of Blake and Marian Hegemony are my favourite parts of BT so when my buddy wanted to play the game and agreed to that matchup I was quite happy hahaI painted up both factions since he didn't want to paint his dudes so I get to swap between WoB and MH when I grow bored of doing one or the either.1st Legio is my favourite scheme in all the MH. This is an older pic so not everything the Hegemony has, but it's a decent bit of it.
>>97469710is there an advantage to using an LRM10 over two LRM5s?
>>97470047A 5 and a 1 is usually better than two 3s, but that's about it.
>>97470047More heat efficient.
>>97470089It's not. Same heat anon.
>>97470047If you elect to add Artemis you save tonnage by upgrading one big launcher instead of several small launchers
>>97470286Crits yes but not tonnage with LRM10 vs LRM5
>>97470299It's +2 tons for 2x lrm-5, so it's a wash.
>>97470047Just crits when factoring atremis and a single roll to hit really.
>>97469342that's clearly just a lumbermech some pirates bolted some scary looking armor on
>>97468987That's something that should be DLC not a whole game. If nothing else it would have fit MW5M better due to the nature of the base game being already about massed battles in general.
Tourney List update.>>97468935Wasn't some anon going to make a Fire Mandrill star? I might do it myself if they don't.
>>97470699Quad lance name is the Sirian Slabheads
Newfag here, what's the difference between normal BT rules and alpha strike?
>>97470897https://battletech.com/qsr/
>>97470699can I bring 2 lances of these cicada refits?
>>97470897A lot. For the sake of brevity I think comparing how a mech is represented illustrates the difference pretty well. In Classic the information for a single mech takes up a whole page. In Alpha strike the information for a mech fits on a 3 by 5 card.
>>97470897No longer hex-basedDamage and weapon range are both summed up into batch numbers, All units only have a single HP pool with no more individual crits for subsystems and body parts.
>>97470975So it makes it more like 40k?
>>97470923Max of a level II (6 mechs) and if you limit it to 3080 tech then yes, but technically Null sig is still unavailable in 3080 so I'm going to call that out.
>>97468901My favorite art of this trash mech. I kinda like it and I have a weak spot for min maxing it in flavor a LFE DHS MLs and TC. I should try in MW5/O but it's just fun on table not good but fun, and isn't fun what games are about?
>>97469789because the space goths/huns are on the wrong side of the map to consistently rape them
>>97470981AS is a generic wargame very much in the same spirit of 40k, yes.
>>97470923If it is allowed I will insist on 7000 BV worth of field gun infantry.
>>97470981It makes it into an objectively bad game, yes.
>>97471048copy. I'll work something out.does anyone know if the MM AI can use TSM and mech turrets?
>Nawfags >Wobbies Fans>Alpha Strike>Tournaments Fucking state of this thread today JESUS CHRIST
>>97471168Explain why I shouldn't like the "cyborg villains with cool mechs" faction?
>>97471189This sculpt works for me as a "one off alternate" but definitely not as the standard.
>>97471189Pay no attention to him. This thread has been robe and purple bird country for over a decade.
>>97471189religious extremism is too IRL politics to be in a game, gaming is supposed to be a relaxing escape from reality bullshit, not a commentary mirror on it.
>>97471217Good thing Blakism isn't a religion. It's a mission.
>>97471168Cope.Seethe, even.
>>97471217So you're just trolling.
>>97471209I never been a fan of the FWL but I have always had a firm respect for them and anyone that plays them. I really wish more was done with them back in the FASA days that felt more meaningful.
>>97471233Main attraction of the FWL is it's the perfect campaign playground. You aren't tied down to most major fights. They have the biggest variety in manufacturing in 3025 even if they have lower volume than the Lyrans. Then you have all the independent planets dicking for power in parliament against the larger players to the point they even band together like the Silverhawk Coalition. Plus, they have several of the coolest pirate states on their borders for early game grinding. It's just the perfect incubator for like lance to battalion level until you venture out into the larger Inner Sphere.Also, luv me Regulans. Simple as.
I mainly play Dracs and WoBs, but I have at least a painted company from every Great House, one Clan, and two merc companies. I don't know why I would have just stuck to one faction, they're all neat in their own way. The RotS, Clan Wolf, and the Goons are the only factions I actively dislike.
>>97471269>the GoonsCan you be more specific? Every faction is just goons to mydudes.
>>97471269I hate plenty of factions, but as a Forever GM, I have some of them regardless. Stoners, Bears and Goons are on my shit-list, but it's still fun to be the badguy.Also, shoutout to IWM for mailing me the one fucking missing piece in my Thor II blister from 3 fucking years ago. The postage was like $8. They continue to be absolute bros.
>>97471282Wolf's Dragoons is the Goons, bro.
>>97471283>>97471287Wolfgooners are the worst part of the setting tbhon.
>>97471287Oh the 'GoonsImportant apostrophe.
>>97471287>>97471288The faction is shit mary sue BS, but Natasha is great.
>>97471133Based field gun enjoyer.
>>97471294Nasty is a fine piece of slut clanner ass all the way until she dies to a jumpjet. It still floors me how she was actually in love with Joshua and all that shit went down in a random comic.
What are the official /btg/ based and cringe factions?
>>97471382The Magistracy of Canopus shall forever be based.
>>97471382Who fucking cares? Grow a pair and think for yourself.
>>97471382SOMEBODY POST THE TRIANGLE!
>>97471382Are you trying to imply there are factions that arn't based? Look Timmy, its all based. All the way top to bottom. Even the fucking clanners.
>>97471391>I know what you are
>>97471382Based: classic, hex maps, paper record sheetsCringe: alpha strike, 3D terrain, digital automated record sheets on your phone
>>97471382Based: Honoring the DragonCringe : Blake Akbar edgy.
>>97471391
Is there a clan equivalent of the firestarter? The Piranha is around but that stacks machineguns not flamers
>>97471402
OMG LOOK AT THIS FAR LITTLE BOI <3
>>97471555Not really if you count flamers as being the main selling point. There is a Viper config that comes close but its more a mix anti-infantry rather than burn everything setup.
>>97471566This one always amuses me, as I'm not a grog and I've never been active on the official forums, but I'm the biggest Davion fag in my playgroup by far.
>>97471566I don't see "I play OG star league in star league era" or "mydudes"
>>97471269I just like my Anni-chan...
>>97471575Don't call him fat >:(
>>97471566I prefer this one.
>>97471588nvm I see mydudes now
>>97471587I thought I was the only one...
>>97471566The Triangle confuses and enrages me. 1 Lyran Commonwealth2 Word of Blake3 Fochtstar4 Draconis Combine5 Marians6 MoC7 Escorpio Imperio8 Fronc ReachesDoes this make me some kind of centrist? A detestable neutral?
>>97471587Then the power of the ancient ones flows through you.
>>97471555Closest I can think and it's a stretch is the firestorm, has one flamer Plasma cannon and rifle plus some little lasers of sort.>>97471566kek.>>97471575Whitworth a CUTE A CUTE!!
>>97471593eh.
>>97471575I really like the Whitworth and so should you!>>97471587You're a DEEP DARK DAVION?>>97471589Wasn't someone trying to make that a plushie?
>>97471617I'm glad the weebs got their shit together thats like a thousand times better than the last animu waifu faction chart I saw.
>>97471587I hate fedrats.
>>97471617Explain to me how the LC got Kitami san instead of the MoC? Also why is Misato slotted in the MoC? There will be more questions as I digest this chart.
>>97471624The suns shine on you all.
>>97471632>? Also why is Misato slotted in the MoC?NTA but she's a cheap whore, so goes to the cheap whore faction.
>>97471472ok boomer
>>97471644Yeah that doesn't check out. I'll wait for a real answer.
>>97471632>>97471644Yeah, Misato is a spook but also a slutty drunk mess.
>>97471593I loathe that one. >>97471624That's understandable. The inferior tend to hate those who force them to confront their inadequacies.
>>97471566>Too afraid to play a "dumb" clankek
>>97471615#justsibkothings<3
>>97470981Honestly, 40k has more granularity and complexity than AS.
Someone explain the burrocks to me.
>>97471698I don't think even the Burrocks can explain the Burrocks.
>>97471689This is true. The mechs lose just about all identity and feel incredibly samey. The only good thing is the sheer number of minis it lets me throw on the table. But, tbqh, the nice visuals of fielding a full company don't make up for how 1 dimensional the game is.
>>97471698Nicky said 20 clans and nobody said anything in the moment so they had to scrape some barrel bottoms for concepts.
>>97471148t. has never played an ASs game in his life
>>97470975Souless
>>97471698One of the less retarded clans who acknowledged the existence of the dark caste and quietly tolerated them, all somehow in complete secret for centuries until the more popular clans found out and widowmaker'd them. Then in the wars of reaving all the absorbed remnants banded together again to reform the clan only to get destroyed a second time
I was going to ask if there were any pre-invasion mechs that look similar to the timber wolf but then I seen on Sarna the origin of the name MAD CAT. I guess that's my answer.
>>97471593Where's all the gilfs? This list smells like /tv/ (netflix)
>>97471892That Rakshasa looks dusty.
>>97471617>Cammy
>>97471233Very much this. Never been a huge fan of them in lore, but everyone I've ever met who are fans have been good people.
>>97472002>>97471233I've never actually met a purple birb fan IRL. We have a few guys who have armies for them, but I wouldn't really call them fans. Those guys have armies for fucking everyone even factions they hate.
>>97472014>have armiesForces
>>97471382Become a man and decide for yourself.Me, I'm a FedCom man who doesnt like most of the Clans (wolf-in-exile was cool until very recently)Thus, current canon causes me pain every day
>>97472014I consider myself a fan of the FWL and only two of the six schemes I've painted at least a lance of are purple bird related. Only one of my dozen or so one-offs is, although eventually I'll probably expand it. The rest are OCs or random periphery, pirate, or mercenary schemes.
>>97471156Oh wow, the attention whore faggots homebrew minmaxed nonsense. How nice.
Would you be a Seeker?Scouring the Deep Periphery for ancient artifacts of the long lost SLDF?
Anyone ever notice there's a few designs that you could technically get more space if they were up or downsized? Like I was looking at the Linebacker and realized if it was 60 instead of 65 it'd have two extra tons with literally zero downsides. You'd think the Clan scientists would think of that.
>>97472067Clanner Indiana Jones? Sign me up.IT BELONGS IN A SIBKO!what ever it was funnier in my head.
>>97471223based
>>97471566MoC is literally the most Reddit faction, just look at the actual subreddits. It's the one with the most art, most talk, etc.
>>97471615Fuck off faggot, you, your agenda, and your shitty paintjobs are not welcome here.
>>97472121trueas soon as someone goes into healthcare/matriarchy/catgirls you know it's just reddit memes taken to the extreme
>>97471217where in the world do we have cybernetic religious extremists trying to recreate a lost empire?
>>97472080It's a well known quirk/issue of the construction rules. But upsizing or downsizing would mean using a whole different set of components with different tolerances and specifications, so in-universe it's not so simple. If your engineers figured out how to reinforce the frame to properly handle the speed of an engine you've already negotiated subcontracts for, changing the tonnage means going all the way back to square one.
>>97471189Truly an aesthetic perfectly suited to AI slop.
>>97472121Bulls are pretty damn reddit too, you can't deny that. A slightly different flavor of reddit maybe, but still really damn reddit.
>>97472194being granular in detail to pretend ignorance only shows you to be a retard.No one alive above the age of 12 needs to be explained why a portrayal of religious extremism under the name "jihad" is political insertion bullshit.
>>97472136black matriarchy
>>97472350It's a reference to the Butlerian Jihad.
>>97472350hate to break this to you man but christians, muslims and jews exist in battletech too
>>97472086>IT BELONGS IN THE TEMPLE OF THE MUSESThat is their museum
you can't split crits an lbx10 from an arm into a side torso, in order to fit two lbx10 "in" an arm?
>>97472380No they don't, that's a CGL retcon.
>>97472404Splitting crits only applies to some weapons IIRC? I'm not sure of the exact criteria. I know AC20s and Arrow IVs can be split.
>>97472406Lmao. Try reading the fucking source material sometime lorelet.
>>97472404No, the only mechs to every do something like that are special snowflake uniques and, IIRC, apocryphal.
>>97472406They're FASA era publicationshttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unfinished_Book_Movementhttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Cloud_Cobra#Great_Cloistershttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Cult_of_the_Saints_Cameronhttps://www.sarna.net/wiki/Azami_Brotherhood>Muslim Samurai
>>97472121>>97472136>>97472372Posie Parker founded a nation based on the principles of cyberpunk libertarianism.Their basic tactics is spamming their disposable male infantry until the giant robot's kill count is full and it is forced to shut down temporarily.
>>97472417>>97472429>things on the internet can't be rewritten!Retcons.
In a different timeline:> “-and in recent news, we’ve learned from leaked intelligence sources within the Cappellan Confederation that all members of house Liao have been found dead. Sources claim that they all died from either knife wounds in their backs or poisoned beverages, the murder weapons being found on the bodies of other Liao family members. Reports of Panic and rioting are occurring across Cappellan space as the public learns of the tragedy. “This is very tragic, very, very tragic, so sad… but the Federated Suns is preparing to provide… uhh, relief, yes, that’s the word, relief to the Cappellan people” says one spokesperson for house Davion as large numbers of military personnel are being deployed to the FedSun/Cappellan border. We also reached out to a representative of the Free Worlds League who said “-Did they seriously all stab each other in the back?! This is too rich! I can’t breathe!” Between bouts of laughter. We’ll keep you posted as new information unfolds.-“
>>97470699>not calling the quad lance the Quad Squad
How would you organise and stat a seeker star?
Work in progress on my 4e Jenner.Printed at 30% of the original file size, the sculpt wasnt intended to be used for tabletop.
>>97469789Faction in lore? It's fine.But their fans? There's a certain type of Romeaboo that creates what amounts to fanfic about Rome while also not knowing anything about actual Roman government, culture, etc. that gets attracted to the Marians, and they are insufferable to deal with when you come across them.Every faction has this sort of fan that lacks self-awareness, but the Marians being a lesser known periphery nation increases the probability of encountering them.
>>97472505>sourcebooks from the 1980s and 90s contain modern internet rewrites
>>97472553Let's see your physical copy then
>>97472547Why would anyone need to know about actual roman govt to enjoy the Marians? They're upjumped pirates LARPING as Rome. At best they have some superficial similarities like sharing titles or names of military formations.
>>97472598>>97472547the ignorance and desperately grasping at cosplay ought to be played up
>>97472511Isn't that a significant percentage of the entire population of the Capellan Confederation since Liaos always maintain that they are Liaos even if they're seventh cousins twice removed from the guy on the throne? I seem to remember a bit of fluff like that.
>>97472632Ave, true to Caesar Sean O’Reilly
>>97472640Just because your last name happens to be “Liao” doesn’t actually mean you’re related to THE Liao family. Lots of families adopted the last name Liao in “honor” of house Liao
>>97472547That's just your average periphery fans like the Taurians and Canopus. Theyre always obnoxious and only know surface level memes. Marians youre less likely to run into and even less to find an obnoxious larper
>>97472671This, plus at this point it's easy to say that being Drac, Cappie, Fed, etc. are nationalities in of themselves regardless. These are huge, influential states that have existed for centuries by 3025 after all. Like 700 years give or take.
>>97472547What are the fans who lack self awareness for the major factions like?
>>97472726Steiner scout squad hehe heheh. Commandos are Battlearmor. Bro Lyran generals are sooo incompetent. AssaultsEverywhere.jpg
>>97472752Aight that's Lyrans. What about the rest?
>>97472705> Theyre always obnoxious and only know surface level memes.Well then the solution I see is to invent your own periphery state and make it as meme-tasic or serious as you please
>>97472726>Steiner Scout Atlas>Most honowbiru MechuWarriu>The marketplace of ideas x2And I’ve never met a Cappellan fan who wasn’t 110 percent aware of what they were about.
>>97472769Bro I'm trying but do you have any idea how much money is required to start a colony or all the shit you have to generate or trying to self gm the availability of colonizable worlds while not handing yourself something too good. Fuck. My donut steell mercs only got 80 mil liquid and no fucking dropper yet.
>>97472764AUTOCANNONS ARE THE ONLY WEAPON IN THE GAME t. davion
>>97472780>100 percent aware what they were aboutDo you mean tankies or chinaboos? Both?
>>97472791I mean that they were having fun with it. Juche with Liao Characteristics. “When the first mech warrior dies, the second picks up their PPC”. That sort of thing.
>>97472827Are you claiming there are no Liao fans who lack self awareness?
>>97472726YOU DARE REFUSE MY BATCHALL???!?? xDD
>>97472843No. Just that I’ve never encountered them. Or if I have trust have been far more subtle than the other sorts.
>>97472788Speaking as a Davion fan I don't feel like that's representative of our players who lack self awareness. I'm pretty sure the most irritating thing a Davion man can do is claim the moral high ground or imply that our faction is the best. Or possibly deny our protagonist status. I don't really feel like the autocannon thing is actually a meme other than maybe a few secondaries who just watch tex's videos. But that may just be me.
>>97472784Just have them take over a previously established DOME colony from the age of exploration/Star League eras. There's unknown systems all over in the Periphery/Deep Periphery.
>>97472788Davionfags don't really care about ACs, that's just a meme in general. Obnoxious Davionfags are pretty much eternally seething over going from the protagonist factions since the 4th SW and constantly winning under Hanse, to... not being the protags I guess.
>>97472888You aren't the protags. You were the protags. Its a Wolf and Xin Sheng world now.
>>97472902I realize that, but even with pre existing infrastructure this is an immense undertaking that will need dropships full of cash to undertake. I also want to have a personally owned Jumpship to mostly reduce being left in the wind from lack of imports. My shit could still get pressganged but thats a pretty low risk.
>>97472535Done but for a coat of varnish
>>97472919You aren't wrong, but any time I say that people jump down my throat. We will never be free from Victor's sins. Besides, we might be making a comeback now that the humiliation rituals are done. Julian looks promising.
>>97472671I dunno, I just remember reading something about them actually counting really distant Liaos, like they always manage to pass the citizenship tests even when they seem very unlikely to. Other noble lines eventually fall off, like there were a bunch of Cameron relatives that nobody counted as real Camerons, not even Amaris who wanted to kill all Camerons.
>>97472934
>>97472935Good luck Davionfag. I hope you get the revival you are looking for. Personally I'm enjoying the disaster Trillian has made of the LC. The Hinterlands is a wonderful sandbox and having Brewer play games for the throne has been fun as well.
>>97472705Oh certainly. But I do tend to find the Marian Hegemony, Fronc Reaches, and the like to be second order Periphiary nations in terms of overall popularity compared to the big three of Canopus, the Taurians, and (to a lesser degree) the Outworlds Alliance. Those three being targets of the Reunification War of the Star League has people learn about them more often and faster by comparison to the others. Especially with the Taurians and Canopus featuring in the 2018 Battletech game.
>>97472951
>>97472968Tbqh I'm pretty sure we're getting a civil war between Davion and Sandoval rather than a revival.
>>97472977Oh for fucks sake.
>>97473003?
>>97473009Speaking of fans who lack self awareness...
>>97472977The swastika is angled wrong
>>97472976I already hate the burgeoning Fronc "fanbase". I have a couple Marshals and a lance of Cuirassiers because I like their scrappy fluff and the big pirate war they were fighting in the 3080s, but other people even in these threads have been puffing them up in stupid ways because they're an actual Republic. At least I still have Filtvelt and Randis.
>>97473003You've got to be new here if you're surprised by this.
>>97473024It's not a swastika, mr.suhkdheep
>>97472935The Federated Commonwealth was a masterstroke by Hanse, but it also fucked the Federated Suns. With how early it happened and how big of a win it was, and how many people stop paying attention around the time of the Jihad and some falling off even before the FedCom Civil War, most of the Clan victories are not enough to overshadow just how much the Federated Suns *had* been winning.The ilClan era is probably going to be the thing to break that hold, if anything does. You'll probably have a bumpy road for awhile, but that name really focuses in on the Clans and the Wolves in the same way the Republic of the Sphere was. Except this time its with a faction that wasn't introduced as part of the Wizkids status quo reset, so a lot more people are paying attention.
>>97472929> but even with pre existing infrastructure this is an immense undertaking that will need dropships full of cash to undertake.What are you talking about? You have the facilities and equipment just sitting there waiting for someone to call “dibs”.That’s like saying “I found a fully stocked Castle Brian, but where am I going to find the mechs to defend it?”All I’m thinking you need now is personnel to operate it. And all that might take is just going to the suckiest parts of the IS and periphery and selling the idea that living under your rule is better than the Shithole they are currently living in.And if you really need a jumpship either promise the captain some fancy but meaningless title in exchange for fealty to you, or just steal it.
When did bottom reappear?
>>97473063when he got called out yesterday on another general for being a nudeposter
>>97472934>>97472951>>97472977The fuhrer has got legs for days. Missing a little mustache though.
>>97472977The Annoying Orange has lasted 17 years.The Nazis had power for 12.You are fetishizing such a dogshit regime that literal fruit has outlasted it.
>>97472977Besides how hilarious this looks, the amount of seethe it generates is just the cherry on top.
I'm a Lyranboo and I don't like Assaults.
>>97472988Jules is a dumbass piece of shit who knew Caleb threw his dad out a window and still fucked off to fight Falcons for 10 years for the Lyrans instead of do anything about it. Erik has been in the trenches since day 1, as Champion then Regent. We used to call him "The man who won the Dark Age."My conspiracy theory that Caleb survived and wasn't really in his tank at Palmyra, but is in some secret Snow Raven sex dungeon waiting to fuck up all this succession nonsense feels truer by the day.
>>97473093Only 12 years? To me it seems more like close to a century now, just look at how they're living in your head, and millions of other heads.
If you can't get your hands on a Partisan, is the AC/2 your best bet for an AA vee?
>>97473110For me, it's the beloved Tbolt. And Griffin. And Nightsky.
>>97473106Sadly it's a bit out of scale, it's bigger than my grendel and makes my hollander (which is the same tonnage) look like a toddler.But the sculpt is already at 30% of the files original size, I don't know how it'd hold up to being shrunk more, it was intended to be a shelf display piece.
Great. I broke the enemy will to fight on a pirate hunt. No more free salvage for me.
>>97473133It's just the way the Jenner is, you're never going to make it not look like a big chicken.
>>97471598Yeah, I'm with you. 1 Davionman, Star Adder Enjoyer2 Taurian, Ghost Bear (MW2: GBL. I fucking hate Wolf and Jade Falcon. Still do.) Enjoyer3 Purple Burd and WoB Enjoyer.I'm literally at all three points of this triangle and I have no idea where the fuck I'm supposed to fit.
>>97473144Fit where you want, king. Don't let some other autist tell you what your tastes mean.
For me, it's House Davion. The Federation gifts us liberty, and we owe it defense.
>>97473144Once you are cured of your shit taste in clanners, you can be a respectable graybeard.
>>97473141I hear you, but this is a bit much of a difference.A minor thing given that scale accuracy in battletech minis has always been questionable at best though.
>>97472977
I like Davion because I also enjoy autocannons, but more so that I can larp as an obnoxiously knightly douchebag who actually is good and in the right 75% of the time, but he has bottomless moral justifications for the other 25%
What are the ghost regiments like? Do they have any particular fighting style or weight preference? Because right now I'm working on some amphigean light assault group and as bad as I may be at freehanding I'm considering turning them into ghost regiment instead
>>97473176As always you are invited to show you can do better at 1.5-2mm.
>>97471566This needs to be shifted to a diamond with Reddit and Youtube split up. While Youtube certainly goes hard-in on the Taurians due to Tex Talks Battletech, Reddit has moved HARD into hating the Taurian Concordat as the Augurians and HBG Battletech grew more and more dominant.
>>97473188Ghosts are built from ancient yak machines and rosebud equipment that 100% fight in Teddy style. No honor duels or actual fun samurai retardation, just full on C3 number crunching to win. The individual regiments can be looked up in the FM that have their own little quirks.
>>97473174Can I see your nazi mech collection?
>>97473197>No sir, your ternary diagram is insufficient. You MUST use a quaternary one!It's like I'm cataloging rocks.
>>97473185They seem like very Roman conquerers. Hypocritical and brutal, but they always come at you with an excuse. Like "yeah, I replaced that city with miles of lead-poisoned craters, but they did punch one of your diplomats so maybe that should teach everyone not to do that."
>>97472406>No they don't, that's a CGL retcon.They didn't create the New Avalon Catholic Church...>>97473228FUCK MAN I JUST DROPPED PETROLOGY!!!
>>97473262>I JUST DROPPED PETROLOGY!!!If you survived Mineralogy, you can make it through Petrology. It does take a lot of lab time outside class that a packed schedule won't allow, though.
People who paint camo (regardless of how realistic or accurate it is) earn my respect. I just paint entire panels and add a thin wash. If you're freehanding this stuff, even if you're not good at it, know that you have support. Not my mini btw
>>97473233The thing about them is for as shit as they can be they look damn good compared to their neighbors.
>>97473285Being between the two worst spheroid factions will do that, but still.
>>97473284I recognize Regulans when I see them. Mine are 90% the same but I use stronger contrast camo and lighter wash. Plus, my boys have black accent parts and red jeweled cockpits.
>>97473291>two worst spheroid factionsIt's funny how you type that when every clan faction is worse than the worst IS faction.
>>97473285Yeah, it's like the Imperium over in forty-gay. They're supposed to be "the worst regime imaginable," but when the lore and games almost exclusively show them beating on demon-cultists and flesh-eating aliens, it becomes very easy for forget this.
>>97473301Yeah, and?
>>97473283>If you survived Mineralogy, you can make it through Petrology.Not without a LOT of accommodation...>It does take a lot of lab time outside class that a packed schedule won't allow, though.And I might not have instantly burned out if I had a Lab Tutor from the start, but I'm two labs behind and was exhausting myself just with this one class...It really didn't help that the start of the second lab was literally a quiz on Mineralogical identification, THE thing I was having trouble with!
>>97473310Let's not get ahead of ourselves, the Fedsuns aren't even remotely as bad as the Imperium is..
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>>97473313Only clan lovers use the word spheroid. So you like being the badguys?That's cool. You like Jags and Falcons, don't you Squidward?
>>97473328Only the Falcons, the Jags are cringe. But also, Hell's Horses
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>>97473284I've expanded and based them since then. Also joined a campaign, although the Saraths and Neanderthal have to sit out due to the time period.
>>97473216This is it for the explicitly WW2 Axis dudes.
>>97473341Very pretty.
>>97473341Just clean up those base edges, it'd make them look a lot better, as is it takes away from the otherwise good painting.
>>97473315A ton of mineral identification is just learning what something looks like from the major localities and mines. Physical properties without feeding ground-up rock into an XRF is horseshit half the time. Barite will look like the Oklahoma barite roses or the massive white crystals also from Oklahoma in 99% of university collections. In igneous stuff, the crystals are usually large enough to ID and the biggest PITA is like Nepheline vs. Quartz in the middling stuff.
>>97473366Yeah, I also might brighten up the maroon highlight panels since this is the 4th Hussars, it's very sparing and doesn't stand out much. On the other hand, it also doesn't impact the camo much, so maybe not.
>>97473322>>97473340>>97473351Very nice anon, thank you for sharing.
>>97472988Depressed as I am about this, I have to agree - the writers seem to have it out for the FedSuns, especially with the Snow Ravens invading border worlds again.At least we have New Avalon back, for however long that lasts.
I just think Ideal War is a very fun book.
>>97473446>Dat absolute robe bro in the Hatchetman with the murdertism
>>97473185Exactly! I dig a faction or character that can be a genuinely good and moral, and ALSO sometimes be a self-righteous, hypocritical jackass. It's perfect.
>>97473431>Outta nowhere>Super-jump drive signature from somewhere in the deep periphery
>>97473375>A ton of mineral identification is just learning what something looks like from the major localities and mines.I know, but I just don't have that familiarity coming into this nearly two decades since I was a full time student.A lot of these kids are from the same crèche, going through the normal GeoSci pipeline where they've all gone to field camp and shit together, so my non-social ass isn't comfortable asking them whether this is a Quartz, Plag, or Pyroxene.And the poor fresh-faced TA doesn't really know what she's looking at, since it's the last TA's stuff they just handed her.I know it isn't suppose to be a big deal, but when it's the entirety of the first lab and a portion of the second, I'm just too far behind to catch up!
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>>97473340You know would Elementals even use that symbol? That was more for armored vehicles wasn't it?I guess an Elemental is TECHNICALLY an armored vehicle.
>>97473551That whole scheme was for warplanes.Mechs and Power Armor don't fall into any real world category.
>>97472533I'd either go ultra small with one of their tactical command stars: 2 mechs, fighter point, 2 elemental pointor go big with a wolf command trinarybut the big thing is skills, do you have characters with 1 or 2 interest/history (abc123) or an Indiana Jones with numerous?
>>97473476Alright Blake-man, you can nuke New Avalon, but only if you vaporize that bastard Ward and virus bomb Luthien
>>97473585Better hit all the Capitols at once. No house having advantage. Otherwise ANOTHER war on Terra will happen.Perhaps also hitting Alaric Hapsburg and all the other Truborn with a WolfDIE virus or something...
>>97473585Is there supposed to be a downside here?
>>97472977>>97473322>>97473340>>97473341>>97473351How do people respond when you try to play with these
>>97473678I don't think he plays games, 40kg has a similar turd called DecalAnon who has a bunch of models, but never any pictures that look like a real game.
>>97472136Are there genetically engineered cat girls anywhere? I thought the Canopus ones were just fancy cyborgs. There's also "cat people" from some isolated Deep Periphery colony who just have extra body hair and pointy ears due to natural evolution mentioned in the RPGs, but I don't think they turn up anywhere else and might not really be canon.
>>97472977Actually solid paint. good work.
>>97473678Don't lump my Regulans in with that guy.
>>97473706not its actual gene editing. Its how alot of animals were adapted to different worlds during colonization.Most the Inner Sphere just has an issue with using it on humans too much.
>>97473028And here is the opposite of the meme fan who lacks self awareness: an unironic faction hipster.
>>97473191All he'd need to do is turn it 45 degrees and he'd already have done a better job.As a reminder I really don't give a shit what people do with their own models and what stores they get kicked out of; what annoys me is when their bitching invades the cool shit I'm trying to enjoy.At least you had the fucking sense to start putting armor insignias on some of them instead of having them all be a misanthropic teenager's idea of the Reich.
>>97473028Marshals, Randis, Seekers work better as rpg game than wargame, lots of out-of-mech activities
>>97473585How the fuck did the cappies not make your short list?
>>97473028I just like the Tinstar and wish they exported it more. Unfortunately, I'll just have to settle for the Dragoon since GM apparently just sells it on the open market.
>>97473678Make him play in the corner against the reddit user with trans pride livery mechs
>>97473805One day I'll run an Operation Trident campaign.
>>97473828I would pay money to watch that.
>>97473785True faction hipsters only play Coreward Confederacy with primitive tanks and infantry.
>>97473678well the only local battletech player is a town over and he owns the gaming store which is 90% TCG shit with a small stand for paints, once some gay/trans kid (I honestly couldn't say which) saw my SS on the table this summer and started throwing a hissy fit and demanded to speak to the manager, so my buddy got up, went behind the counter and into the back room and knocked on his office door and said "Hey boss we've got someone who wants to talk to you and make a complaint" (this is out of sight from the front counter) then he walks back out to the counter and says "I hear you have a complaint you'd like to take up with me?" and the kid literally squealed in anger and stomped out of the place, I was crying from laughing so hard after that.but we have 4 miniature wargames that we play on a random rotation and we usually play at my place because my workdays are longer than his, so I don't get much opportunity for randoms to see those specific minis.
>>97473043I don't know that the Ilclan era is going to be popular enough to shift calcified perceptions of the setting. Just about the entire fanbase lives in either Late 3rd Succession War/Early 4rth or during the Clan Invasion. For better or for worse that's where the investment is. I almost never see real discussion or passion about the Civil War, or the Jihad, and absolutely never for Dark Age. Ilclan is fighting an uphill battle and frankly most people I know aren't terribly enthused with the fluff they are putting out. The general sentiment seems to be that the hinterlands are kinda cool, but most everyone I know is kinda pissed at everything else. The more casual guys at my lgs are happy to play with the shiny new tech, but not a single one of them could tell me what the fuck is going on in the lore for that era.
>>97473873I'm 90% sure that this is mostly because cool shit needs to happen in ilClan. There's a lot of cool stuff that can be used and a good amount of setup, but from what I've heard there's no super standout events yet.
>>97473873>>97473890It needs a video game to represent its era for the normies to catch on.
On the subject of the new fans for fronc and various other periphery factions I think it comes down to them being afraid of facing a moral indictment if they publicly like a faction that doesn't square with their perception of popular morality. A lot of them don't seem to understand that you can like a faction despite, or perhaps because of, their flaws. So they try to find the most morally upstanding faction according to whatever their metric is, be that representative democracy or sexual liberation, and then meme it into more closely aligning with their world view than it actually does. It all feels very performative to me.
>>97473873It might be MW4 nostalgia but I quite like the Civil war era. Feels like there's just enough interesting tech to make fun stuff happen and there's plenty of reason for just about anyone to fight.
What even are the fronc reaches?
>>97473933Civil War was a good era, but it doesn't seem to have the popular appeal of the major Eras that came before it. It kinda feels like Civil war is to the Clan Invasion what 3039 is to 3025, even though Civil war was way more fleshed out and impactful. It just didn't really catch on. Which I do agree is a shame, it's actually one of my favorite time periods to play in.
>>97473948The colonial effort from the bulls and MoC decided to be a nation.
>>97473948You know how people are always like "X faction is space Murica"? And they're always wrong? The Fronc Reaches actually are pretty much the closest thing to the Wild West/13 Colonies America.
>>97473866>stories that happenedand if it did how long does a business last by driving away its customers?
Steel viper is a funny clan and I do think that it was a shame they were written as the designated Jade Falcon punching bag into the war of reaving and wiped out.Schizophrenic morons withstanding maybe clan presence in the IS would have been more interesting with them.
>>97473948Canopus and Taurus decided to try and fill in that space between them and started colonial efforts there, then there was a very suspicious "independence movement" that involved the colony president taking the Magestrix and Protector hostage during a summit, which resulted in the Taurians going into a paranoia fuelled rage after "evidence" that Davions were somehow involved was briefly floated as maybe possibly existing theoretically under certain circumstances. They started fucking with the colony so bad that it sparked an actual independence movement that made the Canopians pull out and force the Taurians to also pull out because they weren't allowed to black bag Canopian citizens into their torture dungeons. Somehow the Capellans ended up with the only colony world with actual pre-established industry on it.In the early years, Fronc is very frontier-coded with roaming Marshals dishing out justice at the end of an AC/10, then they pivot to more of a strong advocate for law and order in general. They have a kill-on-sight policy for pirates and will hire any mercenary with a clean criminal record.
>>97473873I'd like to see more about the cattle raiding of the 3rdI see plenty for Civil War and Jihadthe problem is Jihad then has to give way to Clix Dark Agethey should have declared that non-cannon and just charted their own course after the Jihad
>>97474024Part of the license agreement is that they can't declare the Dark Age non-canon because at the time the clix game was still going and Topps doesn't want one part of their IP invalidating another. And even though clickytech is deader than a doornail, renegotiating the terms would open them up to less favorable renegotiation and then they'd have to come up with a new canon that would split people even when they don't like the dark ages much.
>>97474012To the colony of Agua Fria landed a stranger one fine dayHardly spoke to folks around him, didn't have too much to sayNo one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slipThe stranger there among them had a big mech on his dropshipBig mech on his dropship
>>97474024Legally speaking I don't think they were allowed to de-canonize anything that came before. At least that was what I was told by the line dev when he toured our LGS a year or so back.
>>97473824Hopefully, Danai's gonna crazy enough that she'll do it for me
>>97474042>someone inserted a contractual clause prohibiting wiping out the dark agewhat a big baby
The cappies sucking really gets in the way of them having the most unique and best looking mechs of the Inner Sphere
>>97474049>be me>live about an hour from the actual town of Agua FriaEvery single time I pass through I hum that song.
>>97473964The closest faction to 'Murica is the Terran Belt because that's where all the actual 'Murican immigration went in universe. That and it's basically the only area in the IS that didn't succumb to Space Feudalism beyond paying lip service to Terra, the American Main Belt has pretty much been run consistently under a democratic system of government uninterrupted since the 21st century. iirc even the Wolf Empire is just making the usual deals the Belters had under the TH, SL, Comstar, WoB, and RoTS.
>>97474098check to the SLDF marine regiments
>>97474098They aren't a faction though. They're a background blurb at best. There are no Belter mechs.
>>97474115Yeah but that's because Belters unironically like LAMs and we couldn't have more of those.
>>97474067This is why my OC donut company is made up of Marik/Cappie shit. All of their mechs are great and people sleep on them too much.
>>97473873Apparently there's started to be a rise in IlClan era games, with some events getting like 50-70% IlClan games. This could in major part be everything being shiny, but Alpha Strike, Hinterlands, and ACEs may play a role in this.One of the harder things for playing Classic Battletech as the timeline goes on is the sheer number of different options Mechs can be built with, which in turn requires a lot more familiarity with all the nuances. So there's a natural course where you start with the 3025 where there's little of that and progress on...and the Jihad/Republic functionally forms a bit of a wall on your progression due to how much shifted. Especially with all of the sidegrades that suddenly come into being at that time.But with Alpha Strike's simplification of the mechs, you can pretty much skip to the latest state. I think it may have a bit more of a shot at getting people to fuck around in the later points of the timeline.
Restarting my MW career regularly because the game is so much more fun in the early game than in the lategame
>>97474130If Belters did get units nowadays, they'd probably be a mix of ASF Jockeys and IJJ equipped mechs to get around asteroids. Probably something like the Shadow Hawk IIC 7, where it has liquid storage built in for longer flight time in space.
Which one's better as a "medium laser tank"; the Goblin or Laser Hetzer?
>>97474160They actually have a RAT in IKEO because the yiffs have made the mistake of fucking with them and trying to force them into clan castes (also forced the Terrans). I don't know enough about aerospace to comment on the quality of these units, but I assume it's a lot of old star league and RotS stuff.
>>97473998It was 1 person, and the owner is human, not a robot, his desire to preserve the friendship with the only person within 2 hours that either of us is aware of who lays miniature wargames is very understandable.The kid can decide to no longer frequent his business and buy online, but if he wants to draft or attend events, the only choice he has is being driven 2 hours to the nearest city.he makes his money on friday night MtG drafts, days when he does not have the time to play anyway because of that and our combined schedules.you can choose not to believe it, but it's reality.This is a rural town, most people have a problem with the gay/trans stuff, his attitude wouldn't just be understood by the parents of his customers, but also likely approved of.
>>97474183>forced them into clan castesThis is why I genuinely dont get how the IlClan is actually functioning, I can't help but feel like most people would object strenuously to this after living under the republic
>>97474175Gobby, because when your tank gets immobilized turn one you still want it to have a rotating turret.
>>97469921That’s so cool, I want to do a similar project more than ever>>97471223Love these
>>97474183At least a couple of those have HG or iHG. Also a pocket warship with subcap cannons and enough iHG to make a Lyran sweat. The belters are packing heat.
>>97474218Is that enough AMS to be immune to enemy missiles? Something about this feels unfair.
>>97473022It took me a minute to break down a response for this coherently and precisely, but here it is:Draconis Combine force with the WWII Japanese Rising Sun flag:Canon precedent: TRO:1945 includes WWII units and emblems for Axis forces, and BattleTech has historically referenced multiple real-world military aesthetics for mercenary or themed units. This is entirely consistent with how BattleTech incorporates historical symbology.Mechs with Luftwaffe camouflage and Balkenkreuz:Again, TRO:1945’s treatment of German WWII forces. The Balkenkreuz is a historic German military symbol, and the TRO shows how CGL adapts real military schemes into BattleTech mechs. Fits perfectly, just like any other WWII homage.Black mech with Hakenkreuz armband, Baltic cross, and SS shoulder markings: This is essentially directly emulating the Greenhaven Gestapo precedent: The in-universe canon includes a mercenary company named after a Nazi institution with runic/Nazi-style insignia.Optional rules and prior publications establish that player factions can emulate historical or fascist aesthetics, this is fully in-universe-consistent, just heavier on explicit historical symbols.Brown mech with red Hakenkreuz-style armband: The archetype of using WWII symbology on mechs has been set by TRO:1945 and official units like Greenhaven Gestapo. The principle remains: BattleTech allows historical-inspired faction aesthetics.Optional rules + canonical mercenary units = player freedom: Using historical WWII symbology is consistent with official content.The game itself differentiates “good” vs “evil” subjectively, so a player can portray any faction as self-identifying “good” without breaking canon. From a game/lore standpoint, these examples are legitimate.If you don't like this, don't play a game that has officially opened the door to such imagery, CGL may call the TRO: 1945 a joke, but it is a fully developed 56 page document.1/2
>>97474049>not naming the dropship Big Iron
>>97474160The most recent lore on Sarna is apparently from 3145 about the Republic convincing them to start up Pocket Warship production, and the War Academy of Mars opening back up with 60% of its class being from Belter regions. Mixed with their extensive Jump Ship setup, they'd be in an Aerospace/Deep Space warfare force.They're pretty SOL until someone at Catalyst fixes Aerotech rules.
>>97474218Makes sense, they're supposed to be notably advanced and they have been under the radar in the Terran system for centuries, but still some of those fighters they've got are nasty.
>>974742532/2And typically when companies produce april fools "jokes" they do as a single image that teases a product which doesn't actually exist.CGL crossed that line, so while the Greenhaven Gestapo are a burden they could claim they inherited with the IP, the TRO: 1945 invalidates any bitching on the subject, they chose to bring WW2 into the property themselves.Those precedents with the games recognized approval of subjective morality (all factions are good to the players playing them, all factions are bad to the players not playing them) this all says its perfectly okay for me to have National Socialist or Axis power mercenaries as MyDudes.
>>97469526>>97471223Alpha strike has its place and lets me actually fit multiple sorties into my Mechwarrior RPG sessions with my friends. With multiple attack rolls I find it to be very fun, and I find your dismissal of this anon silly and also gay
>>97474202Especially since the Devs don't seem to know how Clanner Caste work...
>>97473866Please just put on a trip so I can erase you from my internet.
>>97474202Oh they would, but the writers are retards and ignore that.Hell the clan invasion had trouble with every world they took fighting gorilla wars against their occupation. In part, because they tried to force everyone into a caste
>>97474183>Tomahawkbased>Ironside and Hellcat IIBASED>Ahab and Thunderbird fucking BASED>Castrumhow the fuck?!
>>97474305No sissy, you're just going to have to grin and bear it, much like the cocks you take in your ass. The internet isn't your safe space.
>>97474202Well, it's only been around for a year, and the major powerbase of Clan Wolf in the Wolf Empire has had its capital raided by the Wolf's Dragoons, the Free World's League has launched a massive invasion of it, and Clan Wolf has apparently already split off Terra and the surrounding space into a Protectorate rather than trying to rule that territory directly.This all in the one year since the IlClan Trial and before they've officially announced the Star League existing to everyone outside of the Clans where Allard declared war on...everyone. Inner Sphere and Periphiary.Alaric straight up quoted the Pollux Proclamation's "So long as a solitary individual of the most distant planet in the Periphery remains uneducated, impoverished, or disadvantaged, all are equally stricken." in his Liberty Proclamation. The thing that started the Reunification Wars. Except he's also including the Lyrans, the Combine, the Fed Suns, the Free Worlds, and the Capellans as his enemies."Working" may be a heavy overstatement.
>>97474317>>97474202They are objecting. Alaric Ward had to roll back the caste integration on terra because the terrorism and insurrections were entirely out of control. There’s an entire sourcebook that devotes large parts to this. The belters in the Solar System are hindering things too. It’s cooled down a lot but the Ilclan has had to compromise a lot of its strict cultural policies. We don’t know exactly how this Third Star League is going to play out, but it’s gonna be more nuanced than “Clans win”. Look at the fucking hinterlands and how many people immediately overthrow their Jade Falcon garrisons. I’m enjoying the era so far for that chaos.
>>97474305as another has just said, but phrased more cleanlyYou can close this tab, turn off your monitor and/or get up and walk away from the computer.There are internet communities to discuss battletech gaming, lore and share painted mechs which heavily enforce against the very things you dislike about me.You are free to frequent those communities instead.Do you not have agency?
Going to a 400pt AS tournament tomorrowHow's this set up?
found the actual Stealth model
>>97474351Aesthetically incconsistent.
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>>97474351Gonna be honest IMO assaults are sub optimal in AS. Lights can be useful as long as you can play them carefully and take advantage of winning innitiative or if there are objectives, but assaults put too many points in a single mech. You get more out of having multiple cheaper mediums and heavies to get more bodies on the table. Means more armor pips. More ability to control ground. More chances to roll dice so that any one miss doesn't matter as much.
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>>97474373>>97474371The tourny I'm going to uses the multiple attack roll ruleIn case anyone does know you roll 2d6 per damage in the range bracket, but I do see your point.
>>97474335>>97474348You know once upon a time the reason people came to an anonymous imageboard was to discuss things they enjoy without dealing with issues of identity, it wasn't to be insufferably annoying because nobody can punish your intentional and blatant acting out.So fuck you. Talk about the games and the robots or fuck off.And when the Nazis did put the swastika on things, it was in a 'walking' diagonal orientation. Fucker ain't watched Sound of Music.
>>9747433260% of the Republic's naval recruiting was Belters. They very likely inherited a looooot of stuff that the woofs weren't able to destroy in their rush to Terra.
>>97474391>>>97474373Forgot image
>>97474338If that Proclamation manages to make it back to the Pentagon Worlds/Kerensky Cluster, I'm pretty sure that would make the Aggressors go berserk. Alaric may well trigger a Second Clan Invasion in the middle of the Second Reunification War.What is this Clanner cooking? Because he is burning it.
>>97474391In my group we use a house rule called pilot die, which does kinda the same thing. I still get better results from fielding more bodies personally. I'm known as the guy who always manages to field a full company minimum, and it tends to work pretty well for me. But I don't know if that strategy lends itself well to clans since I only play IS factions.
>>97474403The National Socialists never put a swastika on anything.>fucker ain't learned to distinguish hindu religion from fascist ideology>talk about the games and the robotsSo how about that TRO: 1945 and the Greenhaven Gestapo, eh?Oh and, what mechs did you paint today? I shared mine.
>>97474403times have changed, 4chan is now a haven for the politically incorrect. (as if it weren't from the beginning, kek)
>>97474424We've been asking that for a while, because on top of everything else he's also been openly contemptuous of almost everyone who helped him get to this point. I fully expect the ex-Wolf-in-Exile cluster to be thrown ass first with no backup into whatever meat grinder war is coming up, just to punish them for not having been full Wolf from the start.
>>97473208yak?
>>97473366Did a quick and dirty cleanup with solid front faces for mechs and numeral indicators for the BA and vees.
2nd clan invasion? Isnt there only like one clan left in the kluster?
>>97474459No one's heard from them for seventy years. Could be anything. My personal theory is they lost the ability to support a spacefaring civilization and went full Battledroids/Mad Max
What faction (and its fans) can you not stand, but you absolutely adore their mechs?
>>97474459Last we heard of the Cluster, there were four. Clan Cloud Cobra, Clan Coyote, Clan Star Adder, and Clan Stone Lion.
>>97474429I was busy taking the mold lines off the Centurion I'm painting in honor of Rook's performance in the AI tournament.See this is what I can't tolerate. An actual neo-nazi wouldn't be such an incredible coward. One minute it's the Reich but the moment someone tells you it's wrong, it's Hindu spiritualism. Nevermind it's armor and the last time you sperged out over it I told you it should be a Balkenkreuz-- which I'd thank you for putting on the other mechs if you weren't such an insufferable bitch in spite of it.It's once again time to actually talk about the robots fuckhead. Get it right this time.
>>97474473Capellans
>>97474498They've all been conquered and absorbed by the Wolverines now, the true Star League inheritors.They're going to come back with a tech level that has actually been advanced, plus eugenics but without the baggage of a drug addicts pseudo-spiritual edgelord ideas of warrior culture, but rather the actual military discipline and organization of the Star League only refined, they will walk all over the IS and the "clans" that took residence there and diluted their ways and bloodlines because of it.We will have tank leg and hoverleg mechs, railgun tech as standard for all kinetic weapons, and energy weapons using x-rays instead of visible light, and missiles that use antimatter instead of conventional explosives, AGI copilots will be a standard of their equipment and they will not negotiate or issue challenges.the entirety of human colonized space will be taken starting with terra and then systematically exanding out from there while simultaneously moving in from every edge of the inner sphere, their wait will have been so long because they were not just refining their technology but positioning undetected colonies and bases around the whole of the inner sphere, the kerensky cluster being silently snuffed out of the picture as an off-hand revenge.
>>97474511>One minute it's the Reich but the moment someone tells you it's wrong, it's Hindu spiritualism.No, you are the one who keeps referencing hindus.My mechs have a Hakenkreuz on them, which you have confused with something else in your ignorance, an ignorance which is /actually/ racist (not that I disagree with the result, just the ignorant path to getting there rather than an informed one).
>>97474511pics or it didn't happen, nazi anon posted mechs then you and others derailed that into the topic he is responding to.
>>97474351>>97474371I would downsize a little like anon said to get elementals so the fire moths don’t get lonely.
>>97474548Oh now you care about getting it right. I'm sure you'll find the time to strip them and redo them eventually.
>>97474455quick and dirty it may be but it's an order of magnitude cleaner than before.
>>97474555You want me to post pictures of a grey centurion with the mold lines scraped? Are you actually fucking stupid?
>>97474560if you could actually read you'd see that what I have painted is not what you have decided I should have painted, but you don't care to do that so why should I give a flying fuck about what you want? Paint your own mechs to be 1:1 wehrmacht. My SS-esque mercs ARENT THAT. My luftwaffe clanners are, my fuhrer jenner is, THE MERCS ARE NOT.
>>97474567that's a WIP, that is on-topic, your bitching isn't.you're pretty fucking stupid yourself if you're going to bitch about off-topic while being off-topic.
>>97474538You may be shitposting, but people who do this without a hint of irony have made Wolverines into the single most cringe clan. It just gets so reddit it's painful.
>>97474567Yes and yes
>>97474582it would be a more valid change to the game then the sidegrade shark jumping that has occurred ad nauseum since the jihad was published.tank leg mechs and hoverleg mechs would be really nice to have, not as transforming quadvees and lams, but just just pure locomotion distinct mechs.
>>97474573>>97474580>>97474586Whatever gets you off man.
>>97474588I envision these locomotion differences as they would both follow the movement rules of tanks and hovertanks, but the tank legs would contribute less weight to the mech chassis allowing you to put more armor and equipment on them than a legged mech of the same tonnage, reduced overall speed should accompany them as well, whereas hoverlegs would contribute more weight to the chassis themselves allowing less armor and equipment to be taken compared to a legged mech of the same tonnage, but having increased speed as well.
>>97474602I now call your bullshit, the mold lines are still there, you just had an unpainted centurion sitting around.
>>97474613You see the mold lines on the shoulder where they're really bad on that sculpt?No?I thought not cunt. I didn't say I was done.
>>97474602okay anon, now less on topic posting and more ainting your mech, when you got that done you will have earned a right to post here as per your own requests for anons to be on-topicWhen you can meet the nazi on even footing, then we can talk.
>>97474616Then what are you doing posting off-topic bullshit? Get to it boy!
>>97474617>>97474622Nah. I've done enough tonight. You guys are free to paint if you feel like it though if you can fit it in around sucking each other off. It's not really a competition.
>>97474628so you've got no desire to adhere to your own compunctions about other anons posting habits and cannot even rise to the level of the anons you are bitching about?You must be really fucking stupid.
Both of you faggots shut up already. Let's get an actual topic going:What is your preferred lance-level tactic or strategy? What mixture of forces (by role) do you usually use?ex. I prefer a hammer-and-anvil strategy where the core of my force is two maneuverable but heavily armored and attention grabbing heavies, then I will take whatever variety of lights, mediums, vehicles, or even VTOLs/BA to do the actual killing.
>>97474653I am absolutely shit at the game. I just print and paint mechs that I like the look and fluff of and then try to put together something I think makes sense thematically and lore wise. I pretty much never win. I'm also not sure how to get better tbqh. Learning from my mistakes has not worked. I tend to bring a single heavy supported by mediums. Feels right and fluffy to me.
>>97474628>it took me hours to scrape off one mold lineLmfao, at that rate you'll be ready to post a painted mini next year then, so I expect no more off topic posting from you until that time.
>>97474653I tend to prefer lightning attack strategies where I can dictate range and tempo; this makes my forces lean more Medium in combat-focused lances than normal.I do think it's really important to still have someone to anchor, so I'm always looking to have something with a little meat on it to take the first hit. That's what actually lead to me picking a Centurion B in the AI tourney.>>97474646>>97474676Also bitch more. Don't hurt yourselves dragging those goalposts around.
>>97474653>>97474673I agree with anon here on the "print and paint whatever I feel like" but I wouldn't say I'm shit at the game, tactical games have been a staple of mine since I first played video games as a child, though understandably I'm not the shining star of battletech when I don't pick my units with meta in mind.
>>97474680Tactical games were also a staple for me growing up, but either it doesn't translate to battletech or I've just gotten retarded in my old age.
>>97474653I always try to keep my people with their battle-buddies. Never travelling (or staying back and blasting) alone. If I use brawlers, flankers, fire support, backstabbers, stikers... It's good to keep your guys from being outnumbered imoProbably sounds basic but it's advice nobody told me
>>97474628Sleep well anon. I enjoyed your misgendering timestamp, it got a chuckle out of me.
>>97474691that depends, are your oponents list building on meta or do they pick rule of cool as you do? I don't play with any waacfags.
>>97474701I'd only call one of them waac. Okay maybe two. And maybe one of them might be a bit borderline.
>>97474720I can get why a person might be lie that in a game like blood bowl where the force composition is rather rigid, but when it comes to battletech there are just sooooo many choices for mechs that there is no reason to get meta with your unit selection.I abolutely go WAACfag with blood bowl, the dice alone do enough to fuck you over with that one, but battletechs plethora of options with all having their own charms that differ subjectively leaves little excuse for it.
>>97474653I use what I call the all-purpose lance:4/6/x Heavy or Assault with lots of armor and guns5/8/5 Medium or Heavy with a mix of ranged weapons2/3/2 or better Medium, Heavy, or Assault with lots of long range capability6/9/6 or better Light or Medium to flank or counter-flankThe Brawler and Missile Boat anchor my shooting, the Skirmisher bodyguards the Brawler or Missile Boat, and the Scout/Skirmisher finds whatever opportunity to be a problem it can.
>>97474677LMAO!nazi anon has contributed more mechs to this thread in his time here than you ever have. you've got no ground to stand on and complain.
>>97474573Nazianon, you've literally freehand painted the Nazi Flag on the SS mechs. At that point you don't get to lie two years later and say it's something else entirely.
>>97474653Four Dragons.>b-b-b-but that's not tac-Four. Dragons.
I've got a game tomrorow, 11k pts per side, four players (2v2) which means I've got 5500pts to fuck around with. Fairly certain OPFOR is bringing 11k pts worth of clanner scum. ilclan era... which I mean I'm not to familiar with.At this point I've thrashed out my options and I want to bring either one of the following lances:Marauder 5m, Archer 4m, Merlin 1B, Centurion CN9-D Helios 3d, Caesar 3r Penetrator 6m, sentinel 3LNo idea what my ally is bringing. I don't want to WAACfag, but am I going to get fucking stomped with either setup? I don't mind losing, so long as I give Mr Tuberat a bloody nose.
>>97474799the dragon can be a versatile mech in fairness.But i also got real lucky and got the katana one in MW5 last time i played so some bias.
>>97474800Archer 4M is always a good time.
Alright.If you (YOU) personally got to choose one mech to operate and only that mech. Which would it be and why?
>>97474805Archer has always been a solid mech.Anyone ever try stacking one with SRMS and putting those battlefists to work? Seems to slow a mech for it but its got em.
>>97474806Shadow Hawk for aura farming
>>97474806The Wolverine is always my go to. Maneuverable enough to be a scout, tough enough to beat other scouts. Able to skirmish as well as strike with the right config. Good comms for relaying tactical data. I guess the cramped cockpit would suck after awhile though.
What's the ideal board size for...>lance vs lance>coy vs coy>bigger
>>97474806Bushwacker.Its my all time favourite mech, its wildly flexible, decently fast and in every respect 'good' imho. It looks fucking great. I wish it got more variants but I'm always happy I've taken it in a game. I loved it in the Mechcommander expansion, Mechwarrior 3, and I've had one charge a Jaegermech off a six level cliff.Honorable mentions go to: Commando, Spector, Merlin, Cataphract, Black Knight, Archer, Thug, Devastator. I'd be happy with any of them.
>>97474829Lance, standard map.We often play Coy Vs Coy and find 1-2 battlemats works nicely depending on scenario.
>>97474806Thunderbolt. Solid workhorse heavy with a big comfy cockpit.Alternatively a Spider with IJJs and a partial wing.
>>97474807I've experimented with that a bit, because optimal or not the image is really cool and it's got the quirks for it. A couple customs I particularly liked was an Archer with 6 Clan Streak SRMs(3 RT, 3 LT) with 6 tons of ammo. It was 4/6/4 on a standard FE, but an Endo-Steel structure, ERMLs to replace the regular MLs, I dropped one of the backwards MLs though. All IS tech except for the Streaks. My favorite custom Archer was what I called Punchdagger, it was for a campaign and fully IS techbase.>4/6/4 on a Light FE>13 tons of LFF Armor>Drop arm MLs for retractable blades>4 SRM-6s, 4 tons of ammo>CASE II in both side torsos >CT MLs switched for ERMLs, still facing backwards.>TSMIt's dumb but fun, though understandably pretty shit in an open area.
>>97474806Shogun 2E
>>97474806That's tough, my initial picks would either be a Black Knight or a Griffin. I love the Wolverine but actually having to ride in a cramped cockpit sounds like it'd suck. You know what? Phoenix Hawk, final answer.
>>97474874The Hawk is respectable in commanding scout missions / ambushes.
>>97474806CrabLow profile, long range beams, quick enough to get in and out. Known to be reliable and easily fixed up.Its a perfect skirmishing mech that can fit into a variety of lances.only weakness is proper knife fighting.
I'm going to start a campaign using the Force Creation and Force Operations rules from CO. Would Chaos Campaign: Mercenaries be easier? Yes. Am I autistic enough to run a narrative campaign with SpreadsheetTech? Let's find out.
>>97474878Yeah. It's fast, mobile regardless of terrain, respectable armor for its weight class, a decent all-around loadout. Plenty of different variants and refits to work with.As far as mechs go, the PH is solid.
>>97474806>>97474874I dreamt I piloted a Griffin when I was a kid back in the 90s. The controls were palm-shaped SNES-like D-pads you rested each hand on. All I did was make it walk if I remember correctly. Only battletech dream i ever had.
>>97474795If you read what I have posted in this thread and possess more than two brain cells to rub together you may be able to puzzle out the subtle distinction between an exact copy and something that is merely based off a thing.But that requires more capacity for reasoning and thought than you can achieve.But it doesn't matter as I do not owe anyone an explanation for my choices, least of all a few literal nobodies who only wish to bitch about things that lay outside their control.
>>97474799Amen.Four dragons.Because dragon.
>>97474917You do realize they had flags with the swastika horizontal, right?
>>97474925Good, very era appropriate and not unique. Unlike having four Hunchback C's.
Using a K-1 as a primitive Battle Taxi during the early Clan Invasion, yay or nay?
>>97474806BLACKKNIGHTMOTHERFUCKER
>>97474966Except a team of hunchback C's is perfectly appropriate.And so long as the BV or points match, you can go jump off a cliff with your deranged imaginings of imposing an era limit on a hypothetical game you're not even playing in. Especially as, has been renumerated a million fucking times, you lying fuckstain...The original idea made ZERO mentions on era at all. Merely incorporating costings, namely bv, points.YOU in your contrarian faggotry, keep insisting on IMPOSING a timeline in order to exclude such a unit, just so you can pretend to have some kind of fucking point to gainsay said unit.And now, as before, take your fucking goalpost moving strawman faggotry and shove them up your God-Damned, faggot ass.
>>97474363>>97474373>>97474423shouldn't their skills be 3 for average clanners?
>>97474567someone put pepe in the cockpit
>>97475026>getting this bent out of shape over pixels on a screen
>>97474973Food for Jagatai
>>97475033Say less
>>97475041Hey, if it can get close enough to board, ASF's probably already been dealt with
>>97475048>>97475033....in hindsight, it's surprising how that wasn't already done ages ago.
>>97475051Makes sense, I like the idea anon, always cool to see more unconventional stuff in play.
>>97475048now put a neurohelmet on him
>>97475039faggot tard has been lying about this shit for literal years now.
>>97475166Or maybe they just know how to trigger some retard on the internet who can't seem to resist the urge to respond
>>97474175The Ontos, accept no substitutes.
>>97475201I'd normally say the Notos Prime, but lately I've been led to believe its supercharger doesn't work in wheeled mode and it's diminished in my eyes some as a result.
>>97475089Ok, I think I may have fucked this up, a bit, but...
>>9747297710/10, good job.>>97473003>>97473093Retards. Anon is clearly basing his new unit on Azov Battalion, most likely inspired by the insane, and quite frankly amazing, last stand of one of its companies during the siege of Mariupol
>>97475255The Azov Battalion wouldn't get as many reactions as using plain Nazi referencee though. And at the end of the day that's all he really wants
>>97472977Fucking based.
>>97475213Can't wheeled vees use superchargers?
>>97475372Megamek's patchnotes says they "fixed" quadvee supercharger speeds, and now they don't affect the vee mode speeds. Which is a shame because I had such plans.Thing is, I can't find anything that says there are limitations, but if this was something they specifically fixed, it must surely be a thing, right?
>>97475406Not necessarily, maybe what they fixed is also a bug. Unless there's some weird erata that's on the website again that nerfs them
>>97475406That's a lame ruling. It's not like Quadvees are all that good, there wouldn't be any harm in letting them have their Superchargers work in all modes.
>>97475247kek
>>97474994From the thumbnail it looks a bit like a Sanic OC character.
>>97475434There are some strange shenanigans with grey areas of transforming mechs.Like if LAMs can use special ammo or not. I am sure it caused more than one nerd rage at the table.
>>97474253>has been set by TRO:1945You will be my Petros. No homo.
>>97475434They had potential with the wheels. Get a 95t quadvee loaded with BA Medium VSPs (thanks to Ghosts of Obeedah, Blake Eleison) going 4/6[8] (or 5/8[10] in wheeled mode, plus pavement boost) and it can be quite memeable.It's a big BV investment, but it also sends a message.It was meant to be a Blake/Society Deep Periphery monster based on the Trebaruna, called it the Flauros, pic related.>>97475473IIRC they can in airmech or mech mode, just not ASF mode. Which is silly
>>97475467I hate that I can't unsee this now. I'm not changing it anymore but fucking hell
>>97475473>>97475480>IIRC they can in airmech or mech mode, just not ASF mode. Which is sillyI don't see why the mode you're in would affect your cannon's use of special ammo, that just seems really dumb. Can ASF not use special ammo in their ACs? Because if so, that really doesn't make any sense. >FlaurosAdmittedly that sounds cool as fuck, but still niche enough that I'd argue there'd be no real harm in letting Quadvees have their Superchargers work in all modes. Let other mech types have nice things and all that jazz.
>>97475507Its performance ranges from decent to goofy.2 LPL, 5 BA MVSP, and one of Supercharger, C3i, or Nova+extra sink is fun.It takes a bit of wrangling because its armour isn't the thickest for its weight, but it's a 95t frame that laughs at how slow the Banshee is.But it's a fun little guy. Picrel
>>97474403>You know once upon a time the reason people came to an anonymous imageboard was to discuss things they enjoy without dealing with issues of identityAnd then a certain subset of the population screamed and screeched and forced their way into things people enjoyed and demanded that their political ideology be brought in and accepted as the norm and that all things should be changed to suite their vision.The left opened this gigantic can of worms, they brought modern politics into the things people enjoyed, they refused to let others be. That there's major opposite pushback is unsurprising.As the old saying goes, you can start death playing but you do not get to choose when he stops.
>>97475486As a penance crusade you must take your Black Knight to furry convention and leave nothing standing.
>>97475026That's cute, but this us a 3068 era late civil war game, and there's only one Hunchback C in existence and it belongs to one named character, so I'm afraid you have to rethink.
>>97475548I made a meme to that effect once, using Flyingdebris' art of it.It got Valk to start squawking about me being a credible threat to his safety despite not living in the same continent.I wish I bothered to keep itBut I'll make it the next drawing I do.
>>97475589Kek look forward to it. Though if he needs backup then he has my Swordsman.
>>97474806If faction isn't a consideration, then a Huntsman. Good all-rounder. Decently mobile, does well at most ranges in most configurations and it looks cool. If I gotta go IS then I'll take a Shadow Hawk for much the same reasons.
>>97473156pleasu no post ntr, the thought of her putting herself inside an honorobu Draconis Coombine battlemech makes me irrationally hard I mean angry
>>97475611>is called "swordsman">has no sword
52nd Shadow Division Battle Armour is ready for deployment. This is going to be used as Kanazuchi or Nephilim BA, I think those fit the look.
>>97474806Vapor Eagle, original. It is one of those Clan mechs that are ostensibly "strangely" configured for duels, yet from an objective meta standpoint their loadouts are basically perfect for mercenaries who need a tool for every situation. The only thing it lacks are two hands for properly carrying cargo away but one hand will do for smaller objects.
>>97475703cute
>>97475703HunchZOOCH!
>>97475686It is a disappointment they didn't introduce a TSM Jihad era edition to do just that. Would have fit well with a Fellowship of the Furry Removal.
I'm going to be making a WoB Level 2 out of WoB designed mechs. I've already got the Buccaneer and Toyama, so I only need to get 4 more. It'll be fun to have a 52nd Level 2 made out of exclusively Blakist mechs I think.I really want to get more Celestials but I heard they'll be releasing them in plastic soon with updated designs so I might wait.
>>97474653As much as I like wall of steel bullshit, I find the game is more fun when I bring two reasonable heavies, a medium that can punch up a bit, and then a medium/light that's really mobile with a big punch, like an SRM javelin or something. The heavies keep attention and deal solid damage, the other two can play annoyance or jump in to finish off cracked open mechs.
>>974749254 Grand Dragons actually makes for a scarier lance than people give credit. I've pulled that a few times to humble people who think it's pure meme.4 "quick" heavys in intro tech with a PPC isn't anything to shake a katana at.
>>97475980I love the OG Grand Dragon but the bitch is just so undersinked.
>>97474806Probably an Orion. I love the look of it, it's a more than capable brawling machine at all ranges, and most of them even have enough armor to make me happy. Plus, I'm not sure there's any non-primitive variants that are just shit, you can pretty much always make use of one.Runner-ups: Marauder, Marauder II, Black Knight, Highlander.
>>97474799Based weeb
>>97475980I was tempted to make a lance of 1G's and play them as an ISF hit squad. I am used to running Toro's so I feel they could be fun.
>>97475984By 3025 standards it's pretty normal. Mechs like Awesome, which can just keep firing all day with occasionally having to turn off one PPC to remain heat-neutral, are rare.
>>97474806Marauder IIc its been my favorite since MW2But if were just doing IS then the Thug. It Thugs.
Are there any pitfalls to avoid when you buy a dropship in MekHQ?
new thread: >>97476142>>97476142
>>97474806>If you (YOU) personally got to choose one mech to operate and only that mech.Blackjack.>>97474807>Anyone ever try stacking one with SRMS and putting those battlefists to work?The 2S is pretty good for this.>>97475288>And at the end of the day that's all he really wantsWhich is what actually makes him annoying.
>>97475980>>97475984the dragon is the epitome of a mech great for the actual canon 'in universe' 'reality' of battletech, whilst being shit for the table top 'our world' real game.because in universe, the DCMS is having cavalry lances running in formation, making constant, unrelenting harassing sweeping thrusts past enemy concentrations, as they close, they're unloading their missile tubes and autocannon as fast as they can cycle., if anyone is stupid enough to get too close, they just barrel right on through with some mech fisticuffs or kicks on the way through/past and race off into the distance again, to wheel around and repeat the whole thing all over again.but that would require something like 50 map sheets and a few hundred, if not thousands of turns to run the running battle in a game of BT.the dragon is a fast heavy, it falls on the mobility and armour sides of the triangle, with not much gun. which makes it the ultimate harrasser that you just cannot kill.in-universe, the fucker is moving so fast at full tilt (which it should always be doing) that just landing hits is a challenge, and its thick armour with that sloped nose (narrow profile etc) means shit just fucking glances off half the time anyway. you have to hit the sucker with a heavy laser strike AND manage to hold the beam on target for a fat, full burn, until you are fairly cooking in your cockpit, and HAVE to turn your large laser off, in order to melt armour on the fucker. meanwhile, the sumbitch is happily BRRRRRRRTTTT-ing your ass off with an autocannon.now, the grand dragons even worse.because instead, it is waiting for the PERFECT shot, and the crazy bastard dcms goon in the cockpit is happily going to wait until JUST as he wheels away, and use that very second, that poofteenth, to land his ppc TIC CCIP over your mech's asshole, and unload, as he laughs maniacally and zooms off into the fucking distance again, the bastard.
>>97475984>>97475980and that's to say nothing of the laser fire that will peck at you if you're stupid enough to break formation, leave what little protection you have to try and chase them down.the dragon lance are those fucking assholes you have to commit significantly heavier firepower, tonnages and numbers to counter than the straight up stats would suggest.they're the fucking horse archers of battletech to everyone else's spearmen and bowmen.
I know one of you nerds knows about distribution. So WHEN is it coming?
>>97471972It's probably not been used in over 20 years to be fair. There can only be about 7 people on the planet who actually use them, and I'm one of them, so that only leaves 6 others.
>>97472466Of course. Their house of cards will fall like dominoes!Checkmate!
>>97474994GIMME YOUR MONEYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FASUZRYs0fM
>>97476533I did exactly this with a trio of Dragons in AS once. Kept them in a delta formation sweeping across the board, and when the enemy closed I had them duck behind some buildings. When my opponent tried flanking both sides to try and pincer them, they swung back and quickly tore up the first mech before moving on its partner.
