Previous: >>97466900>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQMorcant's art was bothering me. Anyone else do this?
>>97472435I know she doesn't have horns more fitting art is welcome
>>97472435TQ: If a card doesn't cost $5+ I might use hobby glue to affix a better artwork but something about just printing a proxy is off-putting to me.
>>97472435Made this frame too
>>97472444checked never thought about that. How is the result?
got a random 40 dollars credit added to my account at the LGS. what do i get?
>>97472490depends on the amount of prep you do, you can find some pro examples online that look indistinguishable from a normal cardmine were probably amateurish, idk its been almost a decade since i tried and all my old shit got thrown out
>>97472504Should probably clear it with them first
i'm annoyed that tarkir 2 came and went and orcish bowmasters didn't get a mardu-themed reprinti get that they aren't gonna put it in standard, and i understand that there wasn't a bonus sheet that setbut we have secret lairs nowthey could've done a secret lair with orcish bowmasters and four five-cent commons in the tarkir showcase frame, and it would've sold out in ten secondsbut they didn't
>>97472543why?
>>97472628ntsa but a random amount of money being added to your account is suspect.
>>97472435>TQNo, I don't do that. If I don't like the art I don't play the card. That being said I don't blame you. That's a big upgrade.
>But 2 boosters>Hallowed Fountain and Meek Attack
>>97472679Nice. Meek Attack is very fun with Famished Worldsire.
>>97472659true, but my LGS is reputable and fairly large. they do international shipments and are the biggest one in the country. if it was one of the smaller stores in the area that i go to, i would clear it with them. but they are a big store (and have always had good customer service in my experience) and i am not worried about ripping them off, being ripped off, or some other fuckery. i am just gonna take the win.
>>97472679I got two in one Collector's booster. One is a fracture foil. Seems like a lot of mana to spend for the effect. Is it just because it's another sneak attack effect in red?
Does this look good. It's my first time building a Commander deck. https://archidekt.com/decks/19508448/brigone_soldier_of_meletis
>TQNo. The literal card quality is bothering me. They changed the paper again in lorwyn it’s thinner and it’s even worse for curling. Non foils cupped completely out of the pack the literal fucking weekend they hit the shelf. Astonishing. Finally the last magic product I buy. I even opened the mythic artifact I wanted and I’m still done. There’s no saving this game anymore, you can’t even play with the literal playing cards.
>>97472717It costs two to activate because they do have to still kinda pretend they are trying to design balanced cards.
>>97472717It a sneak attack effect in standard.
They really need this card in MTG.
>>97472718Anyone? I'm looking for tips to improve this deck before I go forward with buying it. Also another question, is there a better place than TCG Player to buy Magic cards? I've always used them for my bandai games, but I've seen multiple sites listed for magic.
>>97472832What now?
>3 people in my pod of 5-6 are all building 1k+ Ashlings decksThis is going to be miserable unless I put torpor orb in literally all of my decks.
>>97472885Let them fight
>>97472882Nah a free reanimator spell at instant that removes all the abilities of a narrow creature type and mana cost.
>>97472435>using the hybrid frame for a gold cardNah, fuck off.
>>97472885Flavor of the month philistines are dumb and bad. I suggest building Nemata edicts.dec and locking them under a grave pact because they are gonna have a hard time building a board presence if they evoke all their shit.
>>97472912>free spell Ummmmmm nyo
>>97472885Start diddling with their cards
>>97472927Yes. It only works with a particular VERY niche card in yard and only during combat. In mtg it can be countered or negated. I'd settle for an instant, but in yugioh it's on a body, and it recurs itself when the creature it reanimates dies. And there's another one that procs on any activated effect or played card AND you run it with this fucking guy who summons himself for free when a creature dies, discards a card to blow up a card (both are positives) AND special summons himself if he dies, which also bounces the creature back to your hand.I'd settle just for the combat trick in mtg.
>>97472958Whoops, wrong image. For comparison, he's like a 9/9 in 20 life mtg.
>>97472920>>97472476
Magic needs this guy
>>97472307This includes mana abilities, doesn't it?
>>97473166yes. it shuts off mana rocks.
>>97473162YES.
>>97472832I really like YGO's artstyle when it leans into the spookier elementWhen was this printed? The aesthetics make me think early 00s but not with that effect, surely
>>97473162You know, the Dragon Rulers probably wouldn't be so hard to translate into magic. Just a dragon for every attribute that also has escape. Mutate is visually similar to XYZs but it's not in practice. I'd like to see how something like that could be done.
>>97473162>name is literally illegibleI know it's reflective so it's fine IRL but man that looks dumb
>>97473180Dark Spirit Of Banishment is pretty recent. 2019. Part of a small wave of support for a retooled Darknecrofear.
>>974731802019, apparently. Maybe I'm just nostaligic, but I feel the same way about earlier mtg.
I'm building a Boros tribal goblin deck with Gut as my commander because I'm a retard.Should I run pic related, since I have it, or just say fucking it and get cather's?
>>97473237Kinbinding is worse but it's also far less of a pain in the dick to keep track of, which is its own kind of reward. Why go boros for goblins anyways?
>>97473261>Why go boros for goblins anyways?White has a lot of stuff that protects your board and helps tribes in general.
>>97473261Nta but Rise of the Hobgoblins is based
Been thinking about building Mairsil and now I'm wondering, how do I do a "combo" deck at B3 or B2? For that matter, how do I play combo without being a huge obnoxious nigger about it?On one hand, I have a terminal johnnybrain and think Rube Goldberg machines to give yourself massive advantages are the sickest shit in the game and that's 100x more interesting to me than yet another +1/+1 counter stacker or making 50 billion [tribe] tokens. On the other hand, "I have 3 cards I win" is boring as fuck and I'd rather kill myself than put Thoracle in a list. What's the trick to finding a middle ground here?
>>97473317Enable the combo in a fun way. A nondeterministic storm setup is the way of true happiness. It is, however, the worst shit ever for a casual to sit through and they will cry, but fuck 'em, the compromise is doing it shittily so you dont do it good and blow them out.
>>97473317>>97473402sorry but being a terminal johnnybrain is by definition a huge obnoxious nigger wasting other people's time with solitaire masturbationany spike will do the right thing by ending the nonsense with thoracle or something
>>97473467Your Krenko deck is VERY cool anon
>>97473467Not wasting anyone's time. Stop me from doing it, then you get the joy of seeing me sad AND get to keep your time intact. If you wont or cant, your time cannot be wasted because you did not care about it in the first place during deck design.
>play combo>ugh it's not fun>play control>ugh it's not fun
>>97473527Sounds like you dont like edh.
>>97473527Play battlecruiser
>>97473504timmy is better off having a spike enter the pod instead of johnny because at least if timmy loses spike doesn't waste their time, johnny is NO ONE's hero lol
>>97473549Spike projecting his self-image onto others as he tutors his combo again.
>>97473531NTA but one of the most disappointing things about Magic is realizing that the best way to play Magic is to stop your opponent playing Magic.If you are letting your opponent take game actions you are playing suboptimally.
>>97473549And why should I care about the most coddled, precious, least skilled, least attentive player'd opinion?
>>97473564Self-love is important
>>97473548but some battlecruisers are better than others and timmy knows thispresent yourself as a policeman of sorts taking down the "obvious target" and timmy will like you more even when you beat them
>>97473561>>97473564>Spike projecting his self-image onto others as he tutors his combo again.>And why should I care about the most coddled, precious, least skilled, least attentive player'd opinion?like any poker player shark worth their salt spikes want fish swimming around the pod to farm wins from and it's in spike's best interest to keep timmy happy even if he loses constantly, dumbass johhnies can never comprehend this wisdom
>>97473317Had this fucker back in like 2020 and it was so much fun, but my play group detested it.
>>97473569I'm not codled at all? They never print fun cards designed for me or rework entire formats around what I like.>>97473586I think the mistake you're making is that I'm not capable of playing at a high level; I have instead chose to do insane things so I enjoy the process of winning so I am not bored.
>>97472435>TQ:there are dozens of us, dozens!
>>97472832>dark spirit of banishment>creature - zombie warrior>whenever a creture attacks you, you may sacrifice ~. if you do, you may return target zombie creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. it has no abilities.>whenever a nontoken zombie you control dies, you may return this card from your graveyard to your hand.>4/1not sure what mana cost this should have, or how (and whether) the level 8 restriction should be replicated
>>97473548This. Choose your destiny. >reject modernity>embrace tradition
>>97473668I was just going to say straight up:Dark Spirit of Banishment 1BDemon SpiritWhen an opponent declares an attack, if a 7cmc demon is in your graveyard, you may discard this card: Choose a 7cmc demon from your graveyard. It loses all abilities and is placed onto the battlefield.If a 7cmc Demon is sent to the graveyard while ~ is in the graveyard, you may return ~ to your hand.2/1
>>97472832>all those wordsYOU FOOL! YOU'VE ACTIVATED THE WINGED DRAGON OF RA'S SPECIAL EFFECT. YOU OWE ME SEVEN DOLLARSI feel like you could make up a lot of yugioh effects on the spot because the text is so long and tiny that it hits "I ain't readin' all that" territory
>>97473720You are absolutely right. Unlike magic, I usually dont care what any card says unless I'm familiar with it and accept what's happening. Even judges suck at yugioh rulings for this reason.
>>97473317i must have made this in like 2018 or 2019it's still valid, with the caveat that i took out the hidetsugu/pillar bug combo and i now run staff of domination instead of torchlinghttps://scryfall.com/@777/decks/36d0618b-a862-4c0c-b6c4-c87e7a97b701
>>97473670You forgot someone
>>97473199Yeah and it doesn't even come curled out of the pack.
>>97473764I always loved those. I think you did the squid of sorrows one too.
>>97473162Actually, Magic needs her.
>>97473777you just hit the jackpot, tiger
>>97473586If Spike was capable of forward thinking he wouldn't be playing cEDH.
>>97473914We already got that one.
>>97473804i think the only ones that i did specifically were that one and this one; there are plenty of others in this general style
>>97473504you are a sad, strange, little man.
Why is he so smug?
>>97473162Magic will unironically need this card before long if the fucking creature powercreep keeps up.
>>97473957>bitches don't even know about my forests
>>97473938>noooo stop sweating in my party games>stop or else i'll call you mean wordslol
Balance II 1WEnchantmentBalance but it's an enchantment
Devious Coronation 1BEnchantmentWhen this enters, target player becomes the monarch.You can't become the monarch.Whenever a player becomes the monarch, draw a card.
>>97473942Is that really the same thing? How is that the same type of interruption?
Does this card go infinite with Isilu if it dies with persist? It comes in with a +1/+1, , the -1/-1 removes it, he sets to 0/0 and it dies, then it comes back with persist and repeats the process.
>>97474013It draws the game
>>97474013no
played my first game of commander today, I enjoyed it even if I forgot a lot of stuff and misplayed
Unmask IICreature - Elemental IncarnationUnmask but a creature3/2 with menace
>>97474013It enters with a +1/+1 and a -1/-1 simultaneously, but because it's total power/toughness is 0 it dies before state-based actions remove the counters
>>97474031cute
>>97473317Just don't put slop cards in the deck. Mairsil doesn't have to be deterministic, just slow and honest value building up into something insurmountable.
>>97472732near mint singles chads win yet again
>>97474029not with a blood artist effect out.
>join pod at the LGS>playing a while>an hour in the animar player suddenly and angrily announces we took way too long, and that now he has to go>what?>he apparently only showed up to play for an hour without telling us>bitches about control players removing his hydras and slow games being boring>tells us he should've played his combo deck so it would've endedthe guy had to be like in his late 40s and he thought he could get cascade triggers by natural ordering into maelstrom wanderer rofl
got in a couple games with the auntie ool precon i've heavily modified and unsurprisingly the deck functions so much better when you have reliable ways to get -1/-1 counters out there
>>97474240Okay.
>>97474180Sounds like a total fag who just wants to do the thing instead of having a good time. Also sounds like an idiot who expects a game to only last an hour is realistic.
>>97474180>40+ >playing MtG with strangers at an LGS on a deadlinelook him up on local court records and warn the pod about what you inevitably find
Everyone builds sexy decks, or waifu decks, but has anyone built a Chad deck?>pic related
I wanna build a deck with flip Terra, but I fucking hate WUBRG. I get why they did it, but I wish they had just kept her Gruul. What are some good sagas that touch grueling, like include G or R or both and another color? Figure they're got enough gay dorks that i can easily fix for 1 or 2 mana at a time outside of my main colors
>>97474301Great going, anon.
>Move so I start looking for a new LGS>Find a pod and ask what everyone's playing and how hard we're going>"We're all 3s">Okay cool I'll play something not super strong>"I have a pregame action, Gemstone Cavern">Oh okay that was a fucking lieAnd they said brackets would help
Feeling bored and angry, might draw something. Does anyone want a design for custom sleeves? I can't draw humanoids and I can't spend more than a couple hours on it. Patterns or symbols in a particular art style would be easiest. You would also need to tell me what dimensions to make the image so it prints right.Goonslop will be ignored entirely.
>guy loses twice>pulls out a 4 maghda>oh dude its chill>portal to phyrexia and god Pharaohs statue after begging to keep maghda>locks everyone out of the gameWhy do people so this
>>97474322I mean... isn't that bracket 3? It's a good card that just got a cool reprint. Just call him a fag for having a leyline effect or something but people are allowed to play good stuff
>>97474336I don't mind Gemstone Cavern, I do mind when people are disengenuous about what they're playing when you then start to see Wheel of Fortune. Tutors, and One Rings after sitting down and playing a few games.
>>97474322Not seeing the issue here
>>97474372Wheel isn't even on the game changer list and nothing about tutors puts them out of bracket three. You've listed one game changer and a bunch of things that are completely fine in every bracket. That's definitionally 3.
>>97474372I think I found the issueYou think bracket 3 is 2
>>97474301>>97474313fug
>>97474322Skull issue.
>>97474426>>97474398>>97474382>>97474379It's okay because at the end of the night I won 4 games in a row with my bracket 2 Yuriko Demonic Consult/Thoracle deck
>>97474449no you didn't
19/11ArtifactExile all cards from new yorkPlayers can’t cast spells or have permanents from new york enter the battlefield.
>>97474449
>>97474491Wow this would have been hilarious at like 10 am in September 25 years ago. I would have laughed.Bit dated now. You got a Challenger diaster one, too?
>>97474491>pic related but worse
>>97474499is this from the AVGN secret lair?
>>97474495If the most visited plane becomes space, sure
>>97474505The most visited plane is New York? Pretty sure we've had like 6 or 7 Ravnica and Innistrad sets
>negotiating a trade for a jailbroken New 3DS XL for some cards from my friendWhat's a fair value for this, I don't mind giving him a good deal since it got lost at my job and I just snagged it from lost and found but I don't wanna get completely gypped. He's already putting up borderless Vivi, borderless Vedalken Orrery and foil EA Mithril Coat as an offer.
>>97474510Depends if you're counting blocks as individual sets.There's 3 New York sets>Spider-Man>TMNT>Marvel Superheroes
>>97474537Not to mention other cards that mention it and sld
>>97474492
>>97474495RWBInstantChoose two -Destroy target VehicleDestroy target creatureDestroy target Bird
Fairy buttHey! Listen!
>>974745303DS's are going for a pretty penny these days, in the neighborhood of $200. If you've got slots for those cards then I'd say it's reasonable if you understand you're doing him a favor, but if that's just the expensive chaff he's got laying around you'll probably need another $50 to start being reasonable
>>97474589I do need those cards for decks, gonna get him to send me some pictures of his higher value binder (he lives like 2 and a half hours away) to see if there's anything else I might want to bling decks out.
>>97474330Do you wanna do an ashling limitless as a petroglyph a la Kokopelli?
>>97474537A lot of TMNT is Japan and alternate dimension based
>>97474579Look at that fuckin slut. She knows what she is doing
>>97474322you can be forgiven because you clearly don't interact with a lot of nerdsif someone says bracket 3 it means they're either a smarmy disingenuous little line-stepping cocksucker or poor, in either case you should steer clear
>>97474629I can tryNeed sleeve dimensions from you
So, uh, I started getting targeted ads on twitter
>>97474648The worst thing is, that would be an incredibly good card if they just reprinted it with you know, different art.
>>97474642Eh how about 66 x 91 mm? While you do that I'll try and give ashling her chest back for shiggles
>>97474589>3DS's are going for a pretty penny these daysDare I ask why?
>>97472444autism
>>97474699Seems a lot of Nintendo handhelds have been rising in price, my guess would be platform exclusive games and the games being physical cartridges. Good thing I kept my shit in good condition as a kid.
So for some reason setting up and executing a sudden instant win with Frodo Sauron's Bane is exciting as hell for me. Feels stealthy. Feels intense. It's fun. What are some other "create difficult circumstances to instant win" decks are there besides Etrata and Phage. Phage doesn't seem fun and Etrata isn't very suspenseful.
>>97473764>>97473944I fucking love these and need more of them
>>97474660There is nothing wrong with the art. They obviously aren't KKK, as they never had giant executioner axes, nor did they have dark robes. It's obviously a medieval cult outfit.
>>97474699games that require unique hardware that is difficult to replicate through emulation, decent library, piracy and homebrew, portable, nostalgia, and the current offerings of new games being absolute dogshit. that's my guess.
>>97474422>that flavor textHoly fuckI didn't know these guys were meant to be actual characters, that's one of the only lines from this game that I remember and it was his win quoteKnew literally nothing about MtG when I played it as a kid so I should probably go back and try it again
>>97474772>It's obviously a medieval cult outfit.look up capirote. religious wear in many spanish speaking places. the klan took their hoods from that, but that is what is depicted in the art.
>>97474772And the Swastika was originally a symbol of good fortune and well-being. Doesn't fucking matter when the vast majority of people don't have experience and sanskrit nor medieval or european religious history, but you know this you disingenuous cunt.
>>97474772> They obviously aren't KKKI don't even think the artist would agree with you here anon
>storm cuck spins his wheels>uhh any response? ok I'll go infinite>grapeshots for 30 billion>cast pic rel and brick his combo>make 30 billion elves and exile opponent's libraries (thx etb maralen)
capaldi.jpg
What are my best options to gain life in mono black so that I don't kill myself?
>>97474666Not 100% happy with composition, but it probably looks fine at card scale rather than on my monitor.
>banned AGAIN in pauper
>>97474813Yeah I'm very tempted to build a black/blue Faerie deck just to play this shit.
>>97474816Extort
Who's the most fun Faerie commander? Talion is the coolest without a doubt but he doesn't synergize much with the rest of the tribe
What is the minimum of a creature type for a deck to have before this is playable?
>>97474826
>>97474830Most tribal decks are going to be looking at 25-30 creatures of their tribe if ETBs or board presence matters.I would say I don't think this is a good card and it is massively overvalued right now.Realistically it's going to come down too late in the game to matter. There's plenty of other ways to draw cards, and elves especially already have no problem drawing on ETB (pic related) in fact it being on cast on not ETB is a significant drawback.+2/+2 first strike trample also doesn't matter in most circumstances. It's not enough to be a finisher, and for like 2 more mana you can just be casting spells that end the game instead of this. For the sake of argument, turn 6-7 would you rather topdeck Chronicle of Victory or Craterhoof?I think if it said creatures of that type had some kind of protection it might be better. But yeah, realistically this is coming down towards the end of the game, you're probably not going to be casting many more creatures of your tribe anyway. It doesn't close the game, and what it does do is done better by generic cards.
>>97474826They built pic related to basically shell around Alela Cunning Conqueror.I already have an Alela deck and I'm not taking it apart for Maralen, I'd rather build an elves+fairy deck for her and avoid repeating too many of the cards I already run in Alela. But that's my personal tism. Objectively I could put Alela in the 99, pic related in the command zone, and just cut a bunch of shit to run the best green cards and it would probably be a better deck than Alela
>>97474850It's overvalued but you seem to be under the impression that 6 mana = turn 6. This is not the case, and especially not for Elves.
>>97474871Yeah, I'm fucking aware cunt. The only reference I made to turns in the post was "turn 6-7" which is when the bracket system says a bracket 2 game can end.If you're ramping with elves you still ramp into a wincon instead of casting this shitrock for 6 and drawing like 2 cards off creature casts.
>>97474881>>97474850>>97474871>maybe I just like the card and want to play with it>maybe I'm not playing green>maybe artifacts matterJust give me an answer instead of bitching about it. 25-30 is typical? Ok. What is the minimum?
>>97474893>What is the minimum?100. Run 100 creatures anon.Fuck off if you're going to cry about someone discussing the merits of a card you posts. The audacity to get bitchy when people answer questions you didn't ask while you're literally begging to be spoonfed some kind of non-existent magic number for your deck instead of figuring out what works for you as you build it.
>>97474762Triskaidekaphilenot sure it's all that difficult but getting it out without tutoring can feel risky and funit will also give your group a healthy fear of flash enablers
>>97474903You typed up several paragraphs of information that was unwanted without answering the question. Your examples were not applicable because of what I said.
>>97474762Pic related.There's a shit load of cards that care about life being at 13. They're not even good in Standard where the life total is 20. If someone knows they're at risk of losing by your next turn they can all just punch each other to make their life not 13 anymore lmaoYou're going to want to run Tree of Perdition but good luck!
>>97474908>You typed up several paragraphs of information that was unwanted without answering the question1. I did answer the question, you even fucking quoted it in your reply.2. You gave absolutely no context for what you were running, so I generalized. I didn't even say you had to be in green, I just chose it as a very common tribal color and made points around that. Everything I said stands to reason no matter what fucking colors your in. 6 mana is close to wincon cost and every color has access to generic wincons.3. - and this is the big one here anon- don't get pissy about receiving more information than you asked for when you're literally begging for scraps on 4channel
>>97473668That thing is a hand trap, dawg. It doesn't need to sacrifice itself, it does it by simply discarding itself for free like a Street Wraith cycling tren.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97475134play pauper edh
>>97472476
>>97475189>ay ma! I posted my subjective opinion as objective fact again!Also I find it hilarious that you say the white text on the old frame is easier to read when I literally can’t even see that theres text there on the compressed image that comes up when I view on phone, meanwhile the newer text is fine
>>97474322Bracket 3 is bracket 4 with a budget. Bracket 4 is non-meta cedh. You should understand this by now.
>What you think budget means: Deck costs less than $100>What your opponent thinks budget means: Deck costs less than $10000
>>97475229I've always considered anything under $200 budget
Building a deck for an LGS, they're doing 50$ CEDH where everyone submits a list that is 50$ or less (based on TCGplayer prices, minus shipping) and then competes for prizing.What would be the best bang for your buck commander if it is purely win focused? I was looking at Magda since she seems to paradoxically be one of the most played and powerful commanders, but her support is so narrowly used by her that no other deck wants it. Are there any other big ones I'm missing in this range?
>>97472435Yeah, sad to say I hate when some of the better art is in a less useful care then you have a card you should put your top tier on and it's given to someone who shit the bed with it.
>>97475257I've gone full schizo and unironically believe they do this on purpose to demoralize and to keep you hooked. Like you can't tell me it's random there are so little Seb Mckinnon legendaries before they kicked him out for not getting vaccinated
>>97475322Yeah, I mostly gave up on MTG (I mostly just update a few of my commanders decks but overall I gave up caring about the story and sets for a min now.)
>>97475249just some dimir bullshit with a fuck ton of cantrips and T.Oracle + D.Consultation
>>97475219>old frames are better>subjective opinion holy r*ddit
>>97475222bracket system is stupid and flawed. just dont play with it>>97475322seb did nothing wrong and his art is amazing. wish he was allowed to be an artist for wotc again instead of the anime slop screenshot gook crap we've been getting lately (EOE exempt it was amazing)>>97475349after they flopped and we wuz saviours'd the Phyrexians arc and went "oops absolutely nothing bad happened and there were no ramifications whatsoever other than metal meanies are put in gay baby jail" i checked out
>>97473668>>97474989Hand traps are just instants. Functionally it's most comparable to Adventures except it goes to grave instead of exile to be cast.
>>97475363holy esl shitskin
OLD GOODNEW BAD
>looking through old tcgplayer orders trying to find a particular one for a deck I built>bought an lp mox diamond back in 2017 for 60$>don't remember ever having it>could've been stolen, never recieved, or I traded it for something retardedI'm mad.
>>97475601dementia sucks, grandpa
>>97474813Damn that's a nice one I think I'll hold onto it. Glad I've been packing this one ever since they started printing "can't be countered" on fucking everything post-Delighted Halfling.
>>97475249I think there's an argument for Grenzo, Dungeon Warden.You can win in a handful of different ways off no board state and one or two cards.Doomsday pile of workhorse (or priest of gix / urabrask), goblin lord, kiki-jiki, and zealous conscripts.Alt doomsday pile workhorse, metallic mimic, either priest, skirk prospector, murderous redcapKiki-jiki / enchantment reanimation + worldgorger -> infinite grenzo activations to grab whatever comboBuried alive + any reanimation -> necrotic ooze, asmodeus, skirge familiar.Doomsday and Kiki are the only particularly expensive cards. Rest is whatever fast mana, discard, and tutors budget allows.
>>97474579>tfw you will never be faerie having your own elf-slaveAny cute commander for this feeling? Enslaving creatures and making them do you bidding? Or at least goading them to fight other people than you?
>>97474765
>>97475683>think it's shopped>look it up>that's his actual statlinemy sidesthat's so based
he cute?
>>97475718>lands matter>esperHuh
>>97475727SOVL ain't it
>>97472435I checked the OP, does this seem like a good deck? I specifically picked this one because it uses 6 different Teferi Planeswalkers and I thought that was pretty cool.https://archidekt.com/decks/6442969/teferi
>>97473193>I'd like to see how something like that could be doneinprint probably. or a new ability similar to inprint that puts the cards in the graveyard when the creature is destroyedalso, writing this i realized that it's not true that ygo doesn't have keywords, every alternate summoning mechanic like xyz has its own rules that aren't explained on the cards, they are basically ygo's keywords
>>97475788I still got a Legend's copy of Dakkon that looks a bit like someone's dog may have chewed on it. I should build him. Love me some open ended Esper.
>>97474700man you really need to just let it goof all the replies in this thread to call autistic, you choose that one? obsessed.
Anybody have a Ygra combo deck? I'm having trouble deciding what's important in it. Feels kind of like a mess right now.
>>97476088I haven't built it yet, but I've been thinking about it since realizing that half the pieces needed for infinites are in the Encyclopedia of Magic secret lair. I think it can hold up well as a sacrifice goodstuff deck with Ygra there to enable a game winning combo. Not too different from the Pioneer Ygra cat oven decks. Little room for more artifact synergies, but still in the sacrifice theme like KCI.
>>97476022autistic
Building Karona-chan as a changlings deck. Suggestions?
>>97476184Changelings. Also, lands.
>>97476189I see, I see.
>>97476164I feel like my deck is a bunch of different infinites, but the support package around it is pretty weak. I am going to be playing into other strong stuff decks like Vivi and Urzas.
>>97476088well you didn't post a list but if you are comboing you just put in tutors and a couple protection pieces. trying to stall the game with creatures or protecting your lifetotal with blockers doesn't matter
>>97476184Pic related and all the auras that make enchanted creature not allowed to declare attacks targeting you.
>>97476281I've already got the impetus cycle on my list. Nice call on the cloak, though on its own it won't save me from commander damage. I can probably gaslight my group into forgetting that fact for half a game at least.I'm mostly looking for suggestions on what lords and tribal synergies to consider.
You ever kill an opponent from beyond the grave?
>>97476336Great song by Aborted.No, but I have done something equally crazy. I killed someone with this.
>>97476364You're right, that is a great song by Aborted.How did you win? Did you take crontrol of a big damage spell like Crackle With Power?
So I am fairly new at magic but one thing I dont get is why should I play so much removal? Isnt it better to have a deck full of problems my opponents need to solve instead of wasting my time solving problems when I cant solve them all anyway.
>>97476412Hells yeah! They're sick live too, I saw them with Archspire and they stopped the show at one point because a guy got fucked up in the pit. He popped back up with his teeth all mangled, the band shrugged, and went right back into it.Anyways, I killed them the same way they did in legacy; by making the esper deck pay red for a pact.
>>97476425Your opponent plays this on you. What do you do?
>>97476503
>>97476560Good. Remember this next time you ask why you should put removal in your decks.
>>97474031Good for you. I mean it , not being a dick. What were the decks?
>>97476773Mtg should have been printed on thicker card stock. Wouldnt have this pringle problem and could do cooler effects like 3d etching.
I am making a "Ureni of the Unwritten" deck and i am unsure how many protection spells or counterspells to include in the deck. Is it better to just keep counterspells for protection in a Temur deck? Or it's better to balance it with things like "Heroic Intervention"?
I want to live in a world where this is a viable way to close out a game.
>>97476915just counterspells which are more versatile as removal. this is an ETB deck not a combat deck, you dont give a shit what happens to the dragons after they land.
>>97476999>I want to live in a world where doing 40 damage to players for 40 mana is viable>no I do not want to run a good way to do it (carnival of souls, a sac outlet, grave crawler, genesis chamber, and a soul warden like)>I want to tap lands to do itThat could never be viable anywhere, particularly not in edh.
>>97476827card costs 10% more, they use it to gaslight you into paying 25% more
>want to look at some edh discussion and see what people are chatting about>slow thread on 4chan>reddit is just full of people talking about pod social interactions and sucking each other's dicks.>decide to look into the discord servers, they're either dead or the regulars are talking about trans issuesWhy don't people want to talk about magic anymore?
>>97477109What do you want to know?
>>97477143I want to know why people aren't talking about magic
>>97477109Would you like to talk about your favourite artifacts with me?
>>97477163Because you yourself arent talking about magic. There are only so many things to say. Most questions the average person is capable of answering are answered en masse, indexed, and are easily searchable. Therefore only esoteric high level current topics remain. And because most people arent capable of discussing them, but they are also bored, they latch on like a tick and bicker about nonsense.
>>97477109>Why don't people want to talk about magic anymore?It's pretty gay
>>97474817Hey that's fucking awesome. Well done!
>>97477109>Could discuss magic>Complains about social shit insteadYou are no better.
edh is so fun when you explore the old stuffthis plus propoganda
>>97477284does it work? if they opt not to pay one doesn't have to attack with goad eitherI use maddening imp because it destroys summoning sick creatures too
>>97477328>A creature won’t be destroyed if it was unable to attack that turn, even if you had a way to enable it to attack. For example, a creature that had summoning sickness wouldn’t be destroyed even if you had a way to give it haste.no? no, it looks like it doesn't work. though obviously propaganda effects would mean that creatures that can attack can still attack other players and would still get blown up by the enchantment.
>>97477328oh no it doesnt, does with crawlspace though
I'm phonefagging right now, anybody with photoshop at hand please feel free to put on this card these 2 artworks I'm about to post.Do what wizards should have done in their incredible incompetence, laziness and creative bankruptcy.
>>97477097uhhh that's why he said he wants to live in that world tho you fucking idort
>>97477423
>>97477425But... why? A world with three cards?
>>97477429
>i cast x, i pay 1 for rhystic>3 seconds pass>"did you pay the one"i almost lose composure over this shit i s2g
>>97477429this looks like dogshit
>>97477429But that territory has already been claimed. There's little houses and whatnot.
>>97477423>photoshop just get MSE>Do what wizards should have done in their incredible incompetence, laziness and creative bankruptcyuse someone else's art they don't have the rights to?
>>97472718>>97472844Yes, put more ramp in there, get more mdfcs, and at least 38 lands (assisted by mdfcs). Mono white ramps only second to green. You can add:>Witch Enchantress>Ondu inversion (replace promise of loyalty [promise usually results in opponents keeping their best value creature anyways, it was useful once upon a time, but not anymore, single combat is better because it has a light stax effect until your next turn])>Sejiri shelter>Razorgrass ambushFor mono white you need to be dynamic with your lands, try the desert package:>Arid Archway (card advantage, can return things like witch Enchantress in a pinch)>Lazotep Quarry (graveyard recursion+ sac outlet)>Scavenger grounds (graveyard removal)>Sand scoutOther lands to swap plains out:>Demolition field (gets rid of pesky powerful lands)>War room>Plaza of heroes>Guildless commonsRamp to add other than sand scout:>Wayfarer's bauble >Archaeomancer's map >Weathered wayfarer
>>97477447Maro hire this man.
>>97477423this art is fine I don't understand
>>97477458It's a fucking PROXY.
>having a legal deckshiggydiggy
>>97477429This art reminds me of that weird MtG mmolite videogame they tried to put out a few years ago where you went from bolas's meditation realm to zendikar and earned spells in the form of cards. Can't for the life of me remember what is was called.
>>97477194Okay. I will start talking about magic. I hope that encourages further discussion on the topic.>>97477273You are absolutely right! I will begin discussing magic and hopefully that sparks some additional discourse on the topic.>>97477174Yes I would like to talk about my favorite artifacts with you. Here they are in no particular order:>Mage SlayerThere's definitely easier ways to make your creature effectively unblockable but I just think it's a really cool card. Thematically a sword just for killing wizards (your opponent) makes a lot of sense and I like the art.>Gustha's Scepter0 mana to play and saves you from losing an important piece to discard or theft at instant speed. I love this card. >Scrawling CrawlerGives you a body on the field, a draw engine, and punishes your opponent for their draws for the same amount of mana as phyrexian arena, except you dont lose life. Never a feels-bad play.>Worldwalker HelmFree map tokens and I get to copy another artifact token on command. Its great. I also like to pretend that my planeswalker is just wearing this ridiculous looking thing on his head while he's casting spells.>Assimilation AegisProbably one of the coolest pieces of protection in the game in my opinion. Also its not even legendary so you can make copies of it.>The AethersparkDoes cool things, isn't broken, doesn't care that it's not a real person, simple as.Tell me what you think of my favorite artifacts. I would also like to know what your favorite artifacts are, and how you use them in your games
>>97477493Stop that anon. What you're describing sounds like fun and I very much doubt this game was like that.
>>97477438>>97477423That'll be 50 dollars, you stopped me from slapping shitty big titty goblins onto shit for all of 2 minutes.
>>97477545Not the anon you were responding to but I would legit pay $50 for a good proxy like that. I love this shit.
>>97477567that's silly
>>97477567>50 dollarsAnon, there are sites that print proxies for you with any art for like 5 dollars a card.
>>97477576>he wouldn't pay $50 for a proxy of a $0.05 cardpoorfags all of you
>>97477584So?
>>97477616So why pay 50 even you can pay 5
>>97477620Because I want to support the artist??
Thinking about building an Amalia deck because I really like this art. How do people normally play her? Low cost mass reanimation?
>like the new set and its mechanics>but all my existing decks are several years old and developed enough that there aren't any real replacements to be made>only maybe one of the new commander options gets my noggin joggin, but not in a way that interacts with other cards or mechanics from the setfug
>>97477650What new set? TMNT? What decks?
today's mail packaging report>envelope containing invoice and cardboard shipping card protector, cards in penny sleeve and individual perfect fitsthis cardboard sleeve had adhesive and was kind of annoying to open, but otherwise perfectly fine packaging>envelope with shipping information sticker over flap and wrapped in packing tape, sticker was obviously ripped during application but didn't affect getting here>no invoice, cards in two cardboard shipping sleeves>shipping sleeves taped shut with painters tape, then wrapped in packing tape, then taped together top-to-top with packing tape so that the side you're meant to open them by was wrapped in tape3/10, got here without problem, worst opening experience humanly possible. easier to rip open the bottoms of the shipping shield things
>>97477530It had an open beta before it was canceled. Kind of a silly game concept where everyone plays as fledgling planeswalkers with three man groups for dungeons and quests and raid bosses
>>97477717forgot, inside the cardboard sleeves, the cards were in penny sleeves with painters tape over the mouth of the sleeves. please never do this.
>>97477649I like to build her as Mass Reanimation (The "Big Turn")Since Amalia acts as a self-mill engine, the graveyard becomes your second hand. The Payoff: People run "mass" recursion spells like Ascend from Avernus, Rally the Ancestors, or Return to the Ranks. The Chain Reaction: When you reanimate 10+ small creatures at once, they all enter the battlefield, triggering your "Soul Sisters" multiple times. This causes Amalia to explore rapidly, often hitting her exactly 20 power threshold in a single turn, wiping the board of everything else and leaving you with a massive Commander.3. Notable Synergies & TechLurrus of the Dream-Den: Often used as a companion or in the 99 because most of your core engine (lifegain dorks and protection) costs 2 mana or less.Self-Sacrifice Protection: Since Amalia’s board wipe is symmetrical (it hits your own creatures), players use Selfless Spirit or Boromir, Warden of the Tower to protect their board before she hits 20 power.The Infamous Combo: In 60-card formats, she combos with Wildgrowth Walker to explore infinitely. In Commander, this is harder to pull off but still a powerful inclusion if you can change the Walker's color or use similar triggers.4. Alternate Win ConditionsIf attacking with a 20/20 Amalia isn't enough, the deck often runs:Aristocrat Drains: Blood Artist, Cruel Celebrant, and Zulaport Cutthroat to kill opponents when your creatures die to Amalia's wipe.Aetherflux Reservoir: Since you are gaining life dozens of times a turn, this becomes a reliable "laser beam" to finish the game.Thats what I think anyway.
>>97476612I was using an otter deck, the others used decks that were on the map on TTS
>>97477739Shit. Ignore this. I was trying to re-word the AI but it didnt save. Idk why phoneposting doesnt let you delete your posts. Im on wifi.
>>97477735Who was the sender?
>>97477701After Lorwyn, the next set this year is Strixhaven. You have a concussion or something?
>>97477751>I was trying to re-word the AI but it didnt save.You could just write your posts yourself, you brainless troglodyte.
>>97477760Are you one of those woke faggots that think Universes Beyond isn't real Magic?
>>97477767No I cant. As you say I am a brainless troglodyte. I need the help. You are welcome to feel superior about it. I don't mind.
Are there regulars in this general?
>>97477751Eh, the AI was telling me what I kind of had a clue for already. I didn't think about Lurrus but I dislike companions on principle especially in EDH.I find it really funny that you copy pasted AI and ended the post with "That's what I think anyway". Thanks for trying to help at least
>>97477757well if I tell you, you'll be able to look up the seller and see that I left a feedback paragraph
>>97477774>Donnie & April, Adorkable DuoPretty sure the faggots are on the UB side pal
>>97477790sure you've got squirrelfag, aicoomfag, swordfagthe list goes on...
>>97477807Yeah ok whatever you say man lmao.I actually like the mutagen tokens.
>>97477815>the list goes on...Does it though? Thats basically all of them and they barely post anymore.
>>97477815>aicoomfagWhomst?
>that manabase is too good for bracket 2>you're running too many answers for bracket 2>your deck is too focused on a strategy for bracket 2>tribal can't be bracket 2 because it has too much supporthow the FUCK do you build a bracket 2 deck?
>>97477856ngl if you're running fetches and duals and efficient answers in bracket 2 you probably are a stapleslave
>>97477872>fetches and dualsok I'll just run 38 forests and have a deck that's better than 99% of bracket 2 decks??
>>97477856>that manabase is too good for bracket 2Whiny bitchtake, Taigas and shit are fine for any Bracket>you're running too many answers for bracket 2Another bitchtake, interaction is B2 and up>your deck is too focused on a strategy for bracket 2Way too vague, need context>tribal can't be bracket 2 because it has too much support3/4 confirmed bitch takesYou got this critiques at an LGS didn't you?
>>97477880Actually no, I only play bracket 3. This is just from reading comments online about what people think "bracket 2" is. From what I gather you have to give yourself brain damage and forget how to build a deck to qualify.
>>97477880>From what I gather you have to give yourself brain damage and forget how to build a deck to qualify.Yeah that is what is behind the attitude of "noooo just let me win next turn, it'll be so funny"
>>97472435>>97472476>>97477537>>97477545>magic players do a better product than wizards itselfgrim
>97477506>nobody wanted to talk about my favorite artifacts or share their favorite artifacts for us to talk about:(
>>97477913>>97477506I want to put an aetherspark in kharn (the betrayer), but it's 20 dollars still. how well does it work out, in your experience, and in what kind of deck?
>>97477885That's because secondaries need a home for their precons, so bracket 2 ends up the lowest IQ bracket.
>>97477174>>97477506>ForcefieldForcing opponents to over commit just to do damage to you is great.>CalendarLove dumb ass ticking clocks, people will often just panic remove it even when there is 0 damage of it going off any time soon, giving your other artifact a bit more safety, even if its slight.>Reaver CleaverFantastic ramp piece>Alter of the broodI'm going to be making a lot of tokens, why not mill you wile I'm at it, and since its only 1 mana, worth the investment.
>>97477856None of this decides if a deck is or isn't 2.
>>97478008>Altar of the Broodoh my god how have I never seen this card? I have a Wernog/Bjorna flicker deck that shits out like 50+ clues every game, this is going to be a hilarious addition
>>97478064anon milling your opponents is a downside
>>97478071I don't care. It's funny, so it gets added. You should try having fun sometime, anon.
>>97477872Wut? Why is having a functional deck against the rules? The brackets arent by budget.
>>97475189I agree for the most part but the old gold borders are absolutely hideous
>>97478093Wrong. My collectors edition lands are fantastic, eye catching, and genuinely soulful.
>>97478099The piss lands? You might be the only person in the world who likes those
If you had to make a white border deck, what commander would you pick?
>>97477483the gore will continue until aesthetics improve
>>97478104>the piss landsThat made me laugh. You are right, I've never seen anyone else use them. I've had them for over a decade.
>>97478083>a deck without swords to plowshares and fetches doesn't function, allegedlyyou're bad at the game, you're probably bad at everything in life if you're not handed a flowchart
>>97478111not voltron, just something that can use combat triggers for consistent value
>>97478135... why wouldnt you use working cards other than to be obtuse as a challege on purpose? Not running fetches is just retarded, particularly in edh, and if you dont understand why or feel you must disagree, then there is no salvation; you dont know enough about the game.Swords to plowshares? It's fine enough, what's the issue?
>>97478104the piss lands are aetherdrift though
>>97478164Holy SHIT that is a lot of piss. I... I kind of love them? Reminds me of the piss forest comic.
>>97478157>be obtuse as a challege on purpose?that is exactly what you are doing when you're not running a cedh deck. you are always choosing to not run the obvious optimal strategy because you're a normal functioning human who understands that there's fun in doing more novel things rather than what's well-trodden and obvious. I don't know if I can make this dogshit chaff from Ice Age works, the fun is figuring out if I can. I know that super staples works, there's literally no fun in using them.
>>97477649Post the pube edit
>>97478176No, actually. You can run a functional deck just fine that isnt cedh, and even in cedh there is a fairly large amount of variation other than the centralized wincons at the top.There is nothing novel about being mad that cards are functional and compentent. Nothing about the brackets other than 1 preclude you from running useful cards outside of itemized ones. This is a you problem, you should accept that, and keep the judgement to yourself. Particularly the fetches, the fuck are you doing? They give you so much utility between grabbing a triome, grabbing a surveil land, or grabbing utility lands with basic types on top of improving deck consistency by introducing shuffles mid game to change the set order. It's just silly to be mad about that.
>>97478164I like those ones
>>97477649>I really like this artyou like flat-chested hispanic women that are into theatre? fair enough
>>97477649sneak in green cards and remake her famous combo
I don't run fetches/shocks below b3 because my lower power decks are usually built with budget in mind and they're disproportionately expensive
