I need more OP images edition>Previous Heresy: >>97460438>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:Would you be interested in a kill team version of 30k?
>>97476403Coontribooting to OP's 30gay porn folder.
>>97476403>Would you be interested in a kill team version of 30k?No, because the only thing people would do is run terminators with thunder hammers and complain about losing all the time
>>97476403No, it'd just be another poorfag gateway and we already have enough of those. Can't tell you how many 40kfags started playing in second drawn by the plastic models and STILL haven't finished printing their models and yet they're buying all the new hotness and even new allied armies
>>97476403>Would you be interested in a kill team version of 30k?Yes, because I have severe autism.
>>97476464>Posts on /hhg/>"I have severe autism"Water is wet.
>>97476403yes, i want the tom clancy's istvaan VI
>>97476403>TQBut I already have victory is venegance.
>>97476474WATER WITHIN
I got book 20 back in the day and I'm starting again now. I see lots of guides online for chronological reading orders, but they're all different, can I not just read the books in release order? I'm not sure I can be arsed with pic related.
>>97476555Those chronological order flowcharts are mostly to put the ridiculous amount of slop BL published into perspective. Reading the books in release order is fine, the only worthwhile advice you can get is on which books aren't worth reading.
Saturnine Terminators are just like my cock.Stupidly big and doesn't fit.
Getting it.
>>97476600pass I do not like how the new custodes infantry looks like. and this is the wrong calladius to the one I want. I would want to have another dread, this time not in resin, but buying a big box for just one , even big, model is too much. Definitly will buy 2-3 calladius, the ventis (for the jetpacks and weapons) and probably enough 2 of each dreadnought, so I have 3 of each type. Not sure if I want a Coronus. I like the idea of it, but looking at the size and the "custodes price adjustment" I expect it to be priced like a super heavy tank and not a flying land raider. What I definitly have to do is to buy 3 more boxs of allarus. Maybe 4.
>>97476600I think those tanks would look better in a slightly different paint scheme
>>97476587The new Cataphractii are just like my cock.Longer than most, but disappointingly thin.
>>97476600the troops look like dogshit and the dread/tank fortunately look 100% like the ccurrent ones except the new dread looks worse with an uglier spear.Definitely just buying wartablegames recasts for 70% cheaper than that ugly shit.
>niggas name dropping bottom tier recasters again
>>97476682Anon it is worse. You think it is long. but when someone puts it up against the old short dicks, they somehow seem to be the same size. And the old cocks are still thicker.I understand your pain.
>>97476600If the tanks are sub $90 I'll get them.
>>97476682It took me a bit to realize what was looking off to me and it finally hit me.Its not actually the waist, though those do look bad, Its actually the head.See the old Cata terminators had those half heads, they were sunk into the terminator bodies so it gave the perception that they were sitting deep in these big ass hulking suits of armor, These having full heads dont have that illusion anymore, they just feel like regular dudes.
>>97476721You're free to give away the good ones so we can report them to James and ruin your fun.
>>97476787I already named the one and only good one. Haven't had to refund any orders yet, and 4x cheaper than the dogshit coming from ukraine/russia/ebay.
>>97476721Still better than FW
>>97476774it's never one thing, that's a retard's tendency to try to simplify things because reality is complex. The waists look fucking garbage, the hands are a fuckup, the heads are a fuckup, the shoulders are a fuckup, the cock-bumps chest-tray is a fuckup, the loadouts provided are a fuckup, the shrinkflation price increase is a fuckup, going from 10 per box to 6 and eventually 3. Anyone buying them is a complete sucker.
>>97476813The only point of improvement on the new catas is the leather straps being more detailed. Everything else is objectively a downgrade.
Why did GW feel the need to redesign the FW minis and make them worse in almost all cases?
>>97476843It has to be spite. GW designers must have been seething about FW doing marines better.
>>97476853It literally is spite. Citadel has always wanted to define what real 30k/40k is, so when Forge World stuff became well known, the Citadel team got jealous, and used Alan Bligh's death to overwrite it. They want their vision over all. One example of this is the Imperium can't lose, because that would impact sales. So they have been fix-fic'ing a bunch of the Imperial Armor and HH black books to make them "good guys win." They did this with Taros Campaign, where Tau won in IA3 but then they released the Aeronautica Fixfic where the Imperium came back and won with only planes, no infantry or land forces needed. They released a new version of Dropsite Massacre where they turned the "massacre" into "good guys even traded thanks to stuff Bligh didn't invent haha gotcha". It's a mess.
>>97476843to punish those that bought models in the past. As GW that is today, hates the GW of yesteryears. Even if some of the people are the same.
>>97476600no ugly ass
>>97476843Cause GW is full of retard commies
>>97476403>Would you be interested in a kill team version of 30k?Not with the weird nu-killteam rules. But sure, id be interested in a smaller scale game mode about squad warfare. You know, like VIV
Two questions for the thread1: Does anyone have any more of the audio books, got Era of Ruin from the anon a week a go and really enjoyed it! 2: Anyone have any suggestions for 3rd party drop pods? I'm wanting to work towards a drop pod assault style army and don't want to spend a shit zillion pounds or use the new ones. >>97476403TQ: Not with the current Kill Team mechaics. Smaller skirmish 30k Yes, but not the kill team game it currently is.
>>97476883>where the Imperium came back and won with only planes, no infantry or land forces needed.That's the most realistic thing to ever happen in this setting
>>97476929https://miniaturescenery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=100
>>97476953those are nice, do you know of a uk seller?
>>97476600BAIT FOR THE BAIT GODRAEG FOR THE RAEG THRON
It is the snatched waist, full helmet and power fists that ruin the new terminators. More work to do because holy shit the shoulder gap is fucking insane
>>97476587The little chest skull looks so much better than the limbless turkey so many leave instead
>>97476403As a conept sure but killteam has been dogshit since inception
>>97476989holy fucking shoulder gap batman
>>97476971
>>97477083the way the epaulets are modeled makes it so you can't set the shoulder pads the same way as the old cataphractiis without it looking jarring as hell and having the top pad look like it's floating
>>97477176>epauletsPteruges.
Has anyone got the scans of the new skitarii units for the journal?
>>97476555Release order is perfectly acceptable.The problem with taking advice from others on which books to skip is that there will always be someone or several that tell you each book you're asking about is shit. best to just find out yourself, they're not long reads individually anyway.
>>97477220Only got some potato pics another anon shared
>>97477220
>>97477220And some of the rules.
>>97477296>>97477315>>97477337i'm sad you didn't keep the og filenames
>>97477315>autocrit scepter>it doesent crit
posting the missions
>Discover another pair of dreadnought plasma cannons in the bits boxA second castraferrum-mortis with plasma cannons, or friends that still want to play against me...
>>97477403>>97477419>Fixed objective placement>Five game turnsInteresting, gonna give these missions a try for sure.
Thank you kindly, blessing of the omnissiah on your PC.
>>97477454i'm not done, yet
>8.2 seconds of debate
>>97477528>>97477544>>97477552>>97477557Thanks for posting all this, anon. Shame that the new lore is so retarded and tries to retcon so much without need. The new skitties are only believable as traitor Mechanicum, it's ridiculous that GW tries to make them the default Skittarii and still double down in the same lies since Betrayal about them being a minority bound to Mars
Thanks for posting the pages anon. Omnissiah's blessing be upon thee.
>>97477670>new lore is retardedeh, it is what it is. i'll get around posting the ruin of the salamanders lore and missions, spoiler ahead : perty is a manchild, proximan sacramentii are based and night lords get dunked on.
>>97477693glad i could be of use
>>97477702Is ruin of the salamanders the ligma supplement?
>>97476444
>>97477716yes
>>97477728>cyraxus became one of the largest armories for mechanicum relics but it's location was lostwow they're straight up trolling us at this point
aaand i think that's iti didn't post the full skittle list, but they have access to some vehicules and automata that are copy pasted from mechanicum
>>97477762That's actually kind of considerate, means you don't have to buy the full liber mechanicum if you just wanna play with skittles.
Hey, Im probab ly in the wrong thread, but I would appreciate if you can help me out. Ive been salivating over the HH marine models, but no one plays HH around me. I want to make a CSM list and use only HH models. Which models could be easily kit-bashed as Cult Mobs for 40k? I want to paint everything as Alpha Legion pre-heresy.
>>97476444800 solid ass pounds of teleporter.
>>97477832If money is no object? Solar Aux
>>97477832I know nothing about nu-40k but if you know a recaster you could get the old vraks militia which doesn't even need kitbashing to look good. Just check if you're getting the entire minis because forgeworld sold most of them as conversion bits but some recasters give you the whole things.
>>97476583>the only worthwhile advice you can get is on which books aren't worth reading.All of themthere is not a single improvement added to lore since 1999
>>97476403I spent 2 hours on this idk if I like it I kinda hate it
>>97477832If you're going for pre-Heresy, pic related Solar Auxilia worked with them, so they'd make a good candidate. As for kits, with SA you're mainly limited to rifles and some pistols & ccw options. For flamers and grenade launchers you need to look for recasters selling the old resin models. For heavy stubbers you need to start converting or wait for the rotor cannon veletaris.
>>97478165>>97478298>>97478390Thanks for the answers. Sadly money is too tight, and I am not that great of a kitbasher. Will try one box of Sola and one box of Tacticals to see how things work out. Cheers!
Is it cheaper to buy the melee weapons kit to make despoilers, or to buy some 40k marines with chainswords and convert?
>>97476555You can read the books in release order, but keeping track of all the plot threads becomes messy.These reading guides are helpful for those who want to read all the stories referencing their favourite legion, or to know where each story is placed within the continuity>>97478364shut the fuck up, tourist, go back to your /grog/ forever alone cave
>>97477728CYRAXUS MENTION>CYRAXUS MENTIONCYRAXUS MENTION
>>97477744that was always the lore, cyraxus was just some long forgotten outpost world that the tau invaded to test out their new hazard suits, the mechanicus were forced to bring out the 30k tech to repel the invaders, and they were backed up by red scorpions and....star phantoms? eventually
>>97478463Hope it's the correct box of Tacticals.
>>97477744>>97478508REEEEEEEEEE
>>97477728Almost a decade later he still casts a long shadow over this game.
>>97478546Yes, but it also meant several things:1. It was another Imperial Armour, which are GOAT. The Tactical Journal wish they were Imperial Armours2. It was the official introduction of 30k Battle Automata to main 40k. This all was before 8E's unification of Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus codices. Had Cyraxus been released, it'd be 3 editions that 40k could've forced the release of more mechanicum models. Which it did...it released DaVinci Skitarii. That's what no robots does to a motherfucker.3. Tau would've needed battlesuits to match Automata. Battlesuits is nice. Hopefully Crisis-sized instead of yet more Riptide flavors
>>97478822Also, combi-pistol wtf :O
>>97478822Hazard suit my beloved...
>>97478832We used to be a proper wargame.
>>97478832>Combi pistolFucking gangers on necromunda have more custom tech than goddamn space marines>>97478838>hazard suitsdon't remind me
I played Titanicus today, still gearing my buddy up for Adepticon. 1750 is a whack points level to prepare for after having so many 2.5k games.Morts won after completing their secondary objective, but they paid for it in many lives. It's one of the nice little details of Titanicus that actually destroying a titan is very difficult. Only an 8-10 roll on a d10 is actual destruction of the titan everything else is just the titan falling down.
>>97478882>US has the biggest military budget but can't even give each soldier a fraction of the attachments Bubby can slap onto his AR
>>97478891This will most likely be the last game of this double-melta warhound. It finally got the chance to shine and still failed to net a kill. Instead of trying a disadvantageous assault on a melee reaver it went for Jim but it would go badly anyway.
>>97478900Turn 1 Barnum Brown would fail to even hit the Big Ben tower in the middle, but after Jim brings it down Brown would strip 4 shields off the enemy warlord in a great display of dismay, allowing Jim to pull off an extremely rare turn 2 kill.
>>97478911T-rex and the embassy there would block a lot of Blastermaster's shots, but the two of them slung a lot of firepower at the enemy warbringer. Stripes's push up the flank would end poorly, but after the warlord's destruction Barnum Brown would be able to level its firepower onto the dire wolf. I don't care much for warbringers. They pulled through this game but more often they feel like a too-expensive reaver titan.
>>97478929Stripes would actually lose this combat. It got a faulty charge off on the reaver, dealing almost as much damage to itself, and said reaver then simply blew it in half at point blank range. The double melta dog similarly would lose its combat to Jim, the Moderatii Wounded critical damage preventing it from using its melta incisors efficiently, while Jim would summarily blast its head off with the laser blasters. For its cost the double melta loadout simply isn't good enough (at least without stratagems to support but we're not sure how Adepitcon is going to play with those yet so we didn't use them).
>>97478940The dire wolf was destroyed in the same turn as the warhound, releasing the virulent payload which would earn Mortis's victory. This actually activated the ruptura maniple's ability but nothing really came of it since Jim's locomotor's were seized at this point. While they didn't destroy the reaver that warhound's melta guns were still brutal in the short range.
>>97478957We went into turn 5, but after my opponent flumped the order rolls and I hit the emergency repairs neither of us could do enough damage to score another kill. Jim backs off and Barnum Brown moves to bodyblock the princeps senoris. T-rex and Blastermaster try to unload into the enemy warbringer but nothing comes of it.To be honest smaller point games like this feel really limited. Titanicus is besticus when you have enough leeway to play whatever you want and you really need to be at around 1800+ for that. Even that 50 point drop cuts out a lot of options.
>actual measurement (41mm) instead of primarino for scaleI wonder if this is gonna be a thing for the sake of size transparency or some sort of troonsclae marketing
>>97478971T-rex only survived off of pure bullshit. Not only did my opponent roll Weapon on the location dice no less than 4 times shooting him but over the course of two turns I think I pumped the shields up 6 levels total? The magos was in the back with the bellows like you wouldn't fucking believe. He's getting a cracker and a can of WD.Great game, I really like playing this guy he's so chill and knows everyone in the club so he introduces me to a lot of cool guys.
>>97478974Is there any target volkites are better against than combi-bolters?
>>97479117What T are ogryns?
>>97479117Militia?
>>97478822>That's what no robots does to a motherfucker.robots have been rare since Chapter Approved: Imperial Robots in August 1988 described them as>several thousand cohorts, although only a percentage of these is ever active at any one time. Each cohort is in turn organised into maniples of three, four or five Robots plus a Legion tech-adept. The number of maniples in a cohort varies, but is rarely more than 100. However a cohort is usually spread across an entire Marine force of several Chapters or a single Army. Battles involving more than 4 or 5 maniples are rare. This is not to say that they have never occurred - during the Horus Heresy in particular large numbers of Robots were committed by both sides in an effort to minimise human casualties until a decisive final battle could be fought.so typically a 40k robot appearance should be no more than 25 robots at the very high unusual end (probably lower given they have different roles and should require different maniple deployments)but at the top end, a cohort is 5000 robots at the high end with every maniple of 5 and 100 maniplessay there were "several", well, "several" is less than "many" but more than "two" (or one if you're a pedant, but I'm not about to be lectured by a pervert); it's realistically single figures or low double figures; even if it were 99 (which would put it comfortably into "dozens" territory) the number of robots total would top at half a million, or a million if you suppose Horus had "fully half" as the old fluff goes and the rest were replaced like for like in the Imperium (WD104 was before the Imperium was a failing shitshow), and if you allow for them all being active at oncethis is less than there are Marines in 40k (nominally) and by design spread much thinner; leaving aside whether fucking Lorgar or Kurze would "minimise human casualties", you shouldn't have that many robots, and I don't see anybody crying about electro-priests getting sidelined by skitarii
>>97478822>>97478832I wish we could turn back time...to the good old days...and steal every single fried vinegar doused "crisp" out of alan's mouth so he doesn't get fat and die from cancer. and I'm far beyond the point of wanting cyraxus to be released due to high chance of GW inserting a fuckton of nulore shit and claiming that it was always there.
>>97479190No. You get NOTHING. You LOSE. WE lose. SUFFER the IGNOMINY. It's DONE. It's just done...
>>97478822>It was another Imperial Armour, which are GOAT.I have four imperial armor books (2 campaigns 2 apocalypse compendiums) and they are so precious beyond their price.
>>97479117now that combi-bolters are just bolters with twice the shots? look, say you have BS4 and before you used to be able to reroll your shots if you missed, using BS4 for both rollsyou go from 2/3 to Hit to a very fucky 5/6and say your targets are all T4 with a 3+ save and 1Wso under the old system you'd have [[2/3*1/3]+2/3]*1/2*1/3 to kill that guy, which is why so many of you are morons - see where it's adding one probability to another? that's not natural in probability, and we have to do moron mathematics to make it work, but we've made it work and it comes down to oh let's call it 1/7, even though it's slightly better than that (but nowhere near 1/6)now if you didn't have that unnatural thing in there you'd just have 2/3*1/2*1/3 which is 2*1*1 (which is 2, guys) over 3*2*3 (it's 18, big-brain) or, since they're both divisible by 2, reducible to and identical with 1/9all bolter shots at BS4 vs T4 with a 3+ save are therefore 1/9, taking more of them doesn't make them better (because, for the last time you craps-table-dodging cocksuckers, you can't add the results of probabilities and demand a payout, it's unnatural and irrational to do so, and you only get to do it with rerolls because of a specific instruction to do it, which is the only reason it applies there from the mathematical pov, and which no longer exists)volkite starts at S5 so vs that same target at BS4 it's... 2/3*2/3*1/3, which you'll note is also 4/27 or another fucky 1/7, the exact same one in fact but without the screwing aroundso yes, any targets, literally any targets, why are you so stupid, you dumb fucking moron
>>97479117>>97479163>>97479176Going by Str and number of shots, 2-shot Volkite chargers would be equal to 4-shot combi-bolters against T6 targets. Plus Deflagrate, they would be better. Against T5 combi-bolters are better, and Deflagrate would only push the scales towards volkite if the armour save is low enough, maybe
>>97479236Didn't ask about the old system, but thanks
I think for general purpose you're better off with combismore range, more dakkaplus nothing is as cool as mag dumping a unit in the back as they run away because cataphractii are always gonna pick gun down
You're all autistic retards, it literally doesn't matter, the difference is never more than a single wound vs the only targets that matter, and any terminator shooting their guns is retarded anyway because it'll only make your charge harder. Just take whatever you think looks cooler.
>>97479246So T6 models and Militia, at the cost of being worse against other things and a lower range. On normal models theres also the advantage of chargers being assault weapons.
>>97477762Cool, I'd like to build a Skittles list
>>97479180As someone that is obsessed with them robutts with the way 40k armies of the time were structured if we go by fluff normally you would have a single maniple (1-5 robots) for army list because each game is a slice of a battlefield. Not that old rules barred you from having more, the rogue trader rules didn't, adeptus titanicus didn't, I don't think even the "new" 40k did and as you said there were 5-ish maniples in the most important ones. When talking about the HH in RT they even said entire battles were just fought by robots to avoid casualities. Cyraxus was different because during, near the end of the heresy or after(I don't remember) they decided to stockpile every battle automata the army stationed there had because they weren't too trustworthy. Try hitting one with cybertheurgy and get snake eyes on your rolls in 1.0 and you will see what that means. They were there in storage to defend it in case of a huge threat to throw at the enemy which is just what the tau were. So they took them out of storage but the time spent there changed them and they were meant to have rules to represent them going slightly insane. This is what we knew according to the leaks and then cyraxus never happened for a lot of reasons. It was meant to be a way to bring them into 40k which according to a lot of people has become a nono for GW but back then who the fuck knew what happened, some said that the reason was the edition changed and the book was for the older one because FW wasn't informed and other reasons like just sheer spite. We will never know the full truth.
>>97477728>>97477744holy based
>>97479296>>97479274>nothing is as cool as mag dumping a unit in the back as they run away because cataphractii are always gonna pick gun downYeah very much so. But volkite looks high tech, so i'd like it to be viable, you know? Very good consideration>you'll only make your charge harderDepends on how far you are. If you are a mere 3" away after setup, go for it? If you need a 5" and there's no set up...maybe. If you can afford it, still do it? At 6" you aren't getting there anyways, might as well volley some?On power armour squads, volkite chargers triumph over combi-bolter units, which often only have their bolt pistols to volley (the player's saving Return Fire/OW elsewhere)>>97479297Armour saves decrease the effect of Deflagrate. At 5+ save (ignored by AP5), Deflagrate overcomes combi's higher rate of fire. Test is both T3 units, but one's 5+ Militia and the other is 4+ SA.But the result is the same across all toughnesses: Chargers > Combi-bolters against 5+ saves; Unarmoured is their target.Are there T4-7 models with 5+ saves? Too bad there's no Orks during the civil war after the Great Crusade. Daemons and Thralls, I guess?
>>97477713The Bitter War seems like a very fun theater.
>>97477702>perty is a manchild,But of course. It's literally in his name.
>>97477702Wow, that is pretty fucking retarded.
>>97479463Fags like you over analyze the fun right out of these wargames
>>97479716It's a game, Anon, it's serious business
>>97479716You can't do math AND have fun?
>>97480066I think you're in the wrong general.
>>97479463>>97479296Overcomplication aside, indeed the difference between the two is minimal.>>97480089:O
>>97478493If you want a full set of ten chainswords for a squad, you’re better off buying the melee weapons kit or finding a recaster off etsy or something. That said, the current 40k vanguard veterans kits will give you fancier looking chainswords along with a fair amount of other melee weapons and more. Consider if you want blinged out stuff or standard run of the mill equipment.
To the anon who posted a bunch of STL links last thread.Fuck you, these actually fucking suck. I wish'd they didnt even taint my computer with their presence.
>>97480188anger for lack of own skills. Sad, but oddly common in the modern Warhammer Hobby.
>>97480188Bro you didn't realize it was the sedivalle troll?
I started building a unit of veteran breachers. First 5 I knew how to arm. 2 axes, 2 maces, claw on the sgt. But now I should be the next five. Arming them with chainswords seems kind of a lame, but going full power swords or mix of lances/maces makes the unit a "bit" high cost for a non rare unit. Any tips on how to build an optimal veteran breacher squad ? Do you guys still give them special weapons, because that would fix 2 how to arm slots ?
>>97480200shouldve known better when that fugly saturnine NL was posted just before. An hero'ing rn
How do I git gud at making weapon bits for myself? I don't want to buy an overpriced GW plastic kit nor is there a need for proonts if I can just make them myself, but I honestly don't know how to start. What's the best material to use?
>>97480248Hehe, I posted that. I just think they look hilarious, and arguably better than the official Saturnine.
>>97480330I like how you can have them as bolter and fist dudes. I don't get the whole "mini dreadnought" with odd weapon specs (no right fist ???). but then again what do I know, not even close to a table top designer.
>>97480328Just buy them on Etsy. If you need to ask, it'll be more effort than it's worth snd look terrible.
>>97480188you're going to need to dial them in concerning size and put in a lot of effort with a dremel tool to partially undo the tr00scale fuckery concerning the mkVsi arrived at 75% scale with the whole of them save the head which gets to be 90%be prepared to carve out the upper face of the legs a little, give a chamfer to the flat bit of the abdominal hemisphere thingy, remove a significant amount of resin from the lower concave area of the torso and also carve out volume where the head sits to a good extentthe saturnines work very well when printed at 85% scale for seating on 50mm bases but their heads i kept at 100% though i'm using other sorts outright frequently>i am deathly illnot really tho the resin makes me stronger
>>97480386Etsy is a recaster? Or a known Ukrain printer?
oh also the lower 'lip' as it were of the torso is ground away entirely
>>97480420You clearly don't interact with women lmao. Etsy is a site where people sell shit, usually what they hand-made themselves. Especially women are addicted to that site, because of all the useless spiritual garbage being sold on there.
when done properly you will be breaching slightly or very close to creating a hole between the abdominal volume where the hemisphere is sat into and the neck area
>>97476989Abomination.
>>97478370fake metallics is a meme
>>97480417>>97480422>>97480426
and don't forget to praise space king
>>97480425I live with my mother, my grandmother, and for 27 years I lived between 1 to 3 sisters.
>Carapace trim on LeviathanY/N?
>>97480600Looks way better with trim. Without it leviathans look weirdly sleek and aerodynamic, like they don't belong in the setting,
How comparable was the development, previews and (not) releases between Fires of Cyraxus and The Battle of Black Fire Pass?
Question about Mhara Gal: would it be doable to make one out of a different chassi than a Contemptor? I don't know if there's any snippet of hard lore that precludes this.
>>97480636have no idea about Fire. but BoBFP had dwarfs. And dwarfs means love, lore and good feels.
>>97476989I managed to make ones i quite like.
>>97480704If it fits on the contemptor base and is the right height you should be fine.
>>97480737Now with cropping!
the nu MKIVs are going to suck too, aren't they?how do you fuck up the space marine formula?
>>97476444How do you make these kinds of images?Got a template?I want to make some 30k Gachimuchi ones.
>>97480704I don't see why not. Once they succeeded in creating the first one, it only stands to reason that they'd repeat the rituals on other types as well.
>>97480811paint desu
>>97480815>cheeky little Khorgorath clawI never understood why they didn't make a whole kit out of that, maybe the concept was just too retarded even for AoS.
>>97480705True. A shame that this is all that remains of those planned Dorfs.
>>97480826They made refrences to it years later so they didnt scrap it
>>97480704As long as you use the contemptor base size and put genuine effort in the conversion, I don't see why people would have a problem.
>>97480807Sheer hubris and contempt.
>>97480807you tell me mang
>>97480989Hate the way GW does chainmail lately. It's not actual chainmail, none of the rings are interlinked, they're all separate from one another. It's just somebody hitting copy-paste ring shape a bunch of times and calling it a day.
>>97480704>>97480815You know what must be done.
Next two journals tactica are Dropsite pt.ii and Raven Guard apparently.Dropsite sees the release of the other arachnae platforms and has rules for Salamanders Saturnine Pyre Wardens and defensive missions to play using the brand new platforms.No idea on the name of the Raven Guard one, but there's rules for making Raptors and Alpha Legion bullshit prime advantages
>>97480961i need to know when all these changes were decided on. i like to keep a timeline on the enshitification of things.>>97480989>thin waist againyeah, trying to be sleek and slimmer just like nuCatas and tranStodes
>>97481019People from the HH design team have mentioned saturnine terminators already being in development before the launch of 2.0, so the actual decisions on all the changes might have been made close to a decade ago.
his hammer is tacked on but god the lernaen kit is so goodthe body is one piece, the shoulderpads have the lower shoulderpad attached, and are modelled in such a way that you can have the shoulderpads flush with the bodyhad to get a set of sehkmet terminators for the left arms (only set of left cataphractii arms that don't have the lower shoulderpad modelled on them) but thats okaytempted to give this guy the bald head from the cataphractii kit but I don't think I have a spare
>>97481028and my heavy flamer
RETVRN TO PHVT
Has anyone got a high quality scan of the Aeronautica Imperialis Age of Darkness rulebook? The one online is poopoo and lacks the lore/pictures which I'm also interested in.TIA anons <3
>>97481026>being in development before the launch of 2.0doesn't mean decisions weren't made half way through. trannystodes weren't pushed until the amazon deal was a factor.
>>97481039>The Adeptus Obesitas
>>97481039
>>97481039Disgusting...
>>97481039A CHALLENGER APPEARS
>>97481051UUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>97481041Nah, there were people inside GW pushing for female custodes and space marines long before the Amazon deal went through. ADB and Goulding were already trying to force them in when the HH novel series was still being planned out. Femstodes finally appearing to the public lining up with the deal is mostly coincidence, if there'd been no deal with Amazon femstodes would still have happened at the same time regardless.
>>97481051>>97481039>zoomers were unironically indoctrinated by corporate slop styles
>>97481051The only way somebody can think these look good is severe body dysmorphia. Tr00nscaling is a legit mental illness.
>>97481056There were unequivocal "NOs" through the coof on this, anon. "but secret fags were pushing for years" isn't what i'm talking about. when the higher ups caved and said "yes, you are cleared to make trannystodes" is what i'm interested in.
>>97481064I think these ones are mostly based off the SM2 firstborn models. Does that make it any better, probably not; they're originally scaled for 40mm bases.Oddly, his guardsmen look far more reasonable and actually have painted examples.
>>97481074The first femstodes appeared in what, the 9th edition 40k codex? Rules writing and playtesting usually takes more than a year, add three months for the printed books being shipped from China alone... yeah, femstodes getting the green light from the higher ups was a long time ago. We'll never know exactly when for certain, but considering companies that are ran more competently than GW have decisions and development taking place years in advance it can't have been recent.
>>9748109410th Edition, anon. But the lore part of the codex is mostly a copy/paste of 9th's anyway.
>>9748109410thGood job misremembering, GW has been muddying the water partly in hopes of retards like you rewrite history in their favor.
>>97481051>>97481077you solved for me some aspects as to what will compose in parts a bearer breacher team in early speculation as of now, bigly thank youthis guy has some kino stuffgonna hybridize them with some sedivalle bits it looks like lmfao holy fucking shit
>>97481077>firstborn
>>97481207This isn't GW muddying the waters, it is me being so completely disinterested in the garbage 40k has become that I refuse to keep track of what happens in it. Neither is this "rewriting history in GW's favour", as I am arguing GW introducing femstodes being their own decision, without being pressured into it by outside forces. Making femstodes GW's own fuck up, no scapegoats. Not sure if you're ESL and lack comprehensive reading skills, or just a shitty troll.
Legion Basilisk in plastic when??
>>97481237>disinterested in the topic>lazily misremembers facts on forums>after years of GW trying to muddy the waters on historyAnon, you are literally doing what GW was hoping for. Do the meme arrows help you break down what I'm saying, or do I have to come up with a second way to repeat myself?
>>97481254>Completely ignores the most important pointOh so you are just a shitty troll. Get some better material, you suck at this.
>>97480201>optimal veteran breacher squad ?Optimal for what? Those power weapons won't do anything to a vehicle for example....wait. Unless it's a Death or Glory reaction, all enemy vehicles count as stationary in your own turn, right? That makes them vulnerable to Breaching charges? Chainsword them. And one Lascutter
>>97481265>he's this much of a useful idiot that he doesn't think GW wants trannystodes to be seen as "canon as possible">he doesn't even know how history is rememberedAnon, I've been saying you are are participating in something that GW has been hoping for. I'm literally curious on the factual timeline of events, specifically when GW okayed the trannystodes. I don't know what you mean by scapegoating, unless>he invented an entire "anti-bezos schizo theory" in his head when seeing the word "amazon"nigga, don't make me say go take a break and touch grass, faggot
>>97481294No? Death or Glory just means all attacks/shots of the attacking model only one model is allowed to make the death or glory attack hit automatically. Still gotta roll for penetration, and hits are on the front armour instead of the rear like in melee.
>>97481303Anon, you have literally been arguing that GW is muddying the waters to make themselves look worse. Stop making a fool out of yourself, and learn how to follow a reply chain.
>>97481324lmao, what? this is me >>97481019>i need to know when all these changes were decided on. i like to keep a timeline on the enshitification of things.And in the meantime, GW publicly has been releasing tweets to own chuds and making bad retcon lore (muddying the water). It's a factual statement, it's not a defense of their actions.Take the L, and don't make assumptions.
>>97480742>>97480959Eben better, the mhara gal is already leviathan sized and on a leviathan's base
>>97481344>don't make assumptions.That's rich, coming from the guy assuming somebody calling femstodes a fuck up is in any way supporting or defending the change. The mortarion pic is very fitting, you're just as much of a hypocrite and schizo.
>>97481358>i'm asking when>he misremembers (what gw wants retards to do)>tell him "misremembering is what gw want you do"show me where i said you are "defending femstodes". i've been asking when and telling you misremembering is being a useful idiot
eeeeyuuup, s'gonna be another banger
>>97481371Right here:>>97481207 >GW has been muddying the water partly in hopes of retards like you rewrite history in their favor.And again. The mis-remembering only. makes. GW. look. WORSE. Seriously, take your meds or something, because you are not living in reality right now.
>>97480425Etsy hasn't fit that description for years, fuckknuckle, 99% of it is now just rebadged and price-inflated Temu shit.
>>97481387GW wants the change to be cemented deeper in history in people's consciousness.No, it doesn't make them look worse that you forgot when they made the change. Their current official statement is "there have always been female custodes". The further back you, as a person, misremembers (even if you don't like thing), the better their official statement sounds to other idiots who don't know better.
>>97481007>11w dreadpls no daddy lorgar
Are lascannon contemptors any good? They seem like a squishier (but less in need of babysitting) thallax.
>>97481449sorry, not contemptor, the lascannon deredeo.
>>97481008>RG journalUuugh Zzz>there's rules for making RaptorsYuck>and Alpha Legion bullshit prime advantagesYum! I have no idea what that would be though. More so, it will set a dangerous precedent if a legion gets two specific Primes.Just release Teleport as a Prime baka
>>97481039>>97481051I don't know why I think the Alpha Legion routinarily spawns marines that are larger than normal, for their Primarch to hide among (better explanation than Literal Magic).As in, I remember reading about that...I just don't remember where?
>>97481077This is some proper proportions, actually
>>97481313It's just that Reductors are good against buildings and stationary vehicles. But all enemy vehicles are stationary in my turn, no? They aren't moving.And I imagine breacher charges work the same?
>>97481449>ThallaxDid you mean thanatar? Because thallax are the smaller infantry robots that come in squads and die en masse to autocannons.Lascannon deredeo is pretty alright, good damage and strength so can actually kill vehicles. Boreas air defence missiles can now be shot at ground targets using normal BS so those can actually compliment the lascannons now.
>>97481525Death or Glory happens when the vehicle is moving, so not in your turn when it's your unit using the Death or Glory reaction.
>>97481527Yes I did.
happy sunday
>>97481525>But all enemy vehicles are stationary in my turn, no? They aren't moving.I am pretty sure thats not how it works.
>>97481553to you as well brotherbask always in the eternal victory
>>97481562Truth Nuke!
>>97481039>T5
>>97481611>I2
>>97481607>three mags>only two barrels
Can praevians not take vorax any more?
>>97481699Nope :^)
>>97481702Thats a shame, theyre finally worth running.
>>9748160710 times better then nusaturnine
>>97481419>Their current official statement is "there have always been female custodes"Anon that is a statement regarding the in universe state of things, where the official lore position is "yea, turns out there were always female custodes"It does not mean "actually the lore clarified female custodes way back in the year 2000"
very occulted lore, but the second legion primarch was a whammenpeer into your heart and you will realize it to be so
>>97481895>continues to "misremember">continues to be a useful idiot>continues to use reddit spacingcompletely getting the trannystodes edition wrong left you with no credibility in this conversation. then you schizo out inventing fake arguments in your head.now you are acting like pic related was "just a lore clarification" and not gaslighting. you are now, literally, admitting to falling for trannycore gaslighting, kys
>>97481949Not the original anon you retarded schizophrenic. Also, look at your own image you frothing retard. And yes, pic related is obviously a position on the in-universe lore you fucking dipshit, what else would it be? Do you think theyre talking about models or lore from our perspective? Do you think there existed some ten thousand real custodes at some point?
>>97481949mmm yeah I mean we went over this last thread or the thread before, the original blue book RT lore on Custodes does not gender them and is at pains not to gender them, and you are a big homo for not following that lore autistically and making bare-chested Custodes with big naturals instead of simply consooming the homoerotic bare-chested male RT Custodian models like a peasant who doesn't know how to convertGW's position here is technically correct, the best kind of correct, and your position is wrong and extremely gay, you incel twink
>>97481949>when was the kratos tank created>well they were being phased out by the end of the great crusade so they would have been an early vehicle introduced into the armories of the space marines and would have been there for quite some time relative to other formations and vehicles>NOOOO STOP GASLIGHTING ME THEY WERE ONLY INTRODUCED IN 2EYoure fucking dumb. Youre taking a statement talking about the in universe creation of a thing as a statement talking about the out of universe creation of a thing. Things "have always existed" since forever, thats how adding things to a fictional universe works.
>>97481527>die en masse to autocannons.What basic infantry in the history of this game DOESN'T die to autocannons??
>>97482011Custodes.
>>97481961>tweet asks "why did you make a new thing">response "it's always been a thing"Their official stance is "shut up and accept what we said, it's always been a thing". notice the second fag responding. literally doing that whole "no, it's true what they said".>>97481983>mmm yeah 'technically correct'>genderingywnbaw>>97482003observe the fag i responded to just before you, he's arguing "no, see? twist some words around and they are technically correct on tranny stodes". It's the kind of history rewriting faggotry GW is begging to prevail right now.
>>97482037>>tweet asks "why did you make a new thing">>response "it's always been a thing"Yea, they ignored the random retard on twitter and reiterated the party line (that as far as the lore is concerned there were always female custodes). >Their official stance is "shut up and accept what we said, it's always been a thing"Correct. Their official position is "in universe this has always been the case, shut up, move on, buy models". In what world would it ever be anything different? Thats their position on every change in the lore, from grav guns to hellfrost weapons to contekar and saturnine dreadnoughts.
>>97482011Terminators are still rather resilient to autocannon fire
>>97481838Are they? WS3 is kind of brutal for them, especially without a magos buddy.
>>97482037>observe the fag i responded to just before youWhat about him and why should I care? Is whatever he said going to make you less of a pathetic retard who doesent understand how "changes to lore" work?
>>97482022Granted, sir.>>97482115Terminators have never been considered 'basic' infantry.
>>97482125Eh, theyre fairly cheap, durable for the cost, fast and have suppressive 2. Id say theyre worth it even if they hit on 5s.Theyre going to be outrunning a magos anyways.
GW is doing a Made to Order run of Armour through the Ages, to remind us of what we have lost These still look better than the latest marine infantry
>>97482149Didn't they just do this set like a year ago? I wish they would do the Plasma Obliterator, Fortress of Redemption, or Aquila Strongpoint.
>>97482157Some of GW's terrain wasn't ever made in-house, so we just might never see those ever again. Terrain is dirt cheap and easy to pr00nt with a filament printer now anyway, there's tons of terrain STLs out there for free if you know where to look.
>>97481637Every magazine is a dual magazine for feeding both chambers, so that's 6 magazines. Each stack appears to be a mere 5 bolts deep, so it's a grand total of 45 shots, and needs to be reloaded with three separate actions. Whoops
anyone know where i can get the audiobooks for the siege of terra-- I've finally made it through the rest and I'm in the home stretch!
>>97481555Stationary vehicles are the ones that didn't move in their respective player's turn, then. But if it moved and then it gets a Pinned result, it's not a stationary vehicle? It did "move during the controlling player's turn", despite it being unable to move now
>>97482224I would assume stationary vehicles are those that CANT movie. Turrets and the like.
>>97482219gimme a few minutes and i'll hook u up senpai
>>97482149The termie characters are neat if they're metal. Telion as well if he's sold separetly.>>97482157The planetstrike bastion has been put up to order like 3 times already, and it hasn't been worth the 60 smackers any of the times.
>>97482232Yawnerz. I want them to be useful and break things, but dreads aren't valid targets, automata aren't valid targets, and most vehicles aren't valid targets.
>>97482245Blowing up tarantulas is pretty useful desu.
>>97482235LFG!
>>97482249Any tactical squad can blow up Tarantulas, plural. I guess Reductors are just a niche specialist
>>97482244I still got the metal termie chaplain from back in the day, wish characters were allowed indomitus so I could paint it up for HH
>>97482298>Any tactical squad can blow up TarantulasNot very well. The ability for any random thallax unit to reliably do it on the cheap is useful in an army like admech, where your units often tend towards big expensive deathstars.
>>97482412Tacticals will demolish a tarantula in melee with krak grenades. Like, it takes a fuckin miracle for the tarantula to live through that.
>>97482224>But if it movedThen it's not stationaryThere's a very specific definition of remaining stationary this edition, and it's a voluntary choice you make during your movement phase. And thus lasts until your next movement phase. Even if you decide not to/forget to do anything with a unit, you've chosen to remain stationary and to not attack
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>>97482422Okay, yea in melee they will. But I meant "in shooting"
>>97482463Thank you SO much, king! Heresy intensifies!
>>97482463>garro - knight of greyKnight of gay more like
>>97482489He's a big guy
>>97482531F̴̛̬̭̮̳̩͖͎̘̮̞͖̮̏̎͛̓͒̍͘͘͝͝O̸̡̡̤͓̮̹̟͉̯̍̍̆͜Ŗ̵̡͙̼̰̻̹̼̺̯̫͔͙͎́͌̎͘ ̴̡̡̝͍̣͙̮̙̳̻͈̮͂̋̕Y̶̢̧̞̯̬̟̫͇͆͊͌̓͗͒̇͊͘͜͝Õ̷̡̼͎̣̫̽̆̾̐̇̒͊͆͂͘̕͝Ű̸̡̧̙̻̟̙͇͔͈̬͚̊́͆̐̆̆̆́͝
>>97482541the pelt just looks like a turd. The actual saturine terminator looks like a butt plug.
>>97482475S4 vs AV10, 2HP+10*2*2/3*1/6Result: 2.2 HP lost, meaning they can afford to lose one of two marines and they still kill a turret 24" away in shooting, then they charge a closer one and krak it. Turrets can Intercept, Automated Fire (shoots a unit that moved) and Overwatch. They may not Return Fire
>>97476894>making more money than ever>commiesuhhhhhh, based? didn't know commies were chill like that
>>97482568Anon those are glances. The marines only glance the turret with S4 vs AV10.
>>97482382It's just tartaros armor
>Les tarantulas boogeymenNobody uses tarantulas
>>97482590Ah fuck, I'm still stuck in 2.0 thinking glances actually do anything useful at all x.x>Glance a Tarantula>Rolls Pinned>mfw
>>97482615Glances are still worth it (t. had two rhinoes made useless purely through glances) but yea, killing vehicles is hard now. Everything is essentially AV+1
>>97482635Rhinos have auto-repair 4+ though, status effects don't stick to them for long.
>>97482649I rolled a two.
>>97482615Glances will do damage if you roll an already inflicted status in subsequent attacks so it's not impossible. Buy basic infantry guns can't instant kill the sentry turret, that's not a bad thing.
>>97482655Ouch, yeah no amount of special rules can salvage garbage rolls.
>>97482655Scrub
Fuck NuSkitarii GW I REMEMBER THE CALTH SKITARII,WHERE ARE MY RAD TROOPERSYo I have scans of the new crunch that don’t look like the 3.0 leak Nokiahttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1A3wNW6xOgfZV0bEAx7fpUd4bxMZmxDHK
>>97482667>Google driveAnon doxxing himself to deny GW sales, such dedication
>>97482667Where are my plastic secutarii?Fucking TWO mars campaign books and now a journal and not a single secutarii model anywhere? Like there wouldn't have been legions of the little fuckers driving around the like six titan legions that were kicking the shit outta each other? Why'd they even make that axiarch model?
>>97482688Sure go ahead, take advantage of the Good Samaritan Skitarii chud
>>97482667 is that the freddy porn Epstein sent people?
>>97482697Just buy a bunch of axiarchs and give them different arms.
>>97482611They seem to be immune to small arms fire, be vulnerable to rare S6 Light Antitank (everyone prepares for AV13+), so any actual antitank on them is a waste. Idk they seem good for something? Nag infantry, for starters
>>97481039I like 'em
>>97482723Theyre good. Theyre dirty cheap, annoying enough to deal with and fire "out of turn" causing issues for your opponent. The reason no one uses them is that theyre conceptually lame and too expensive (real world cash) for their pts.
>>97482743yeah me too i just finished the last one, they were very laborious and probably poisoning to go through with in the manner i did but they're pretty immaculate texture for the tactical squads they'll be a part of which already have present plastics and old fw marines all mixed together so there'll be like three gradients of marine size in each which i think is rad as they came in all shapes and girths and heights and such and it's all a big love letter to renditions of astartes as a whole
>>97482667huh, so you can blue balls Skitarii under the effects of Statuses by simply locking the Marshal into a Challenge so it never selects Weapons in the Fight Sub-Phaseand the Marshal being part of the same Unit would mean they're also locked to I1 for that Challengeshould've stuck to fucking toasters, boy
>>97482723They're also $60 for 1 unit and they're just really boring? Like you might as well buy a rapier that at least comes with a couple dudes and some neat bits.
>>97482839I suppose one could convert one up? Make them out of unused Sponsons and whatnot?
>>97482884Sure. But the people who would use rapiers arent the people who are into converting. Theyre a mechanically powerful, monetarily expensive and thematically dull unit.
>>97482667Having enough of the old thralls for the main Thagmata I guess I just use the new ones as bonepickers.
Happy Black History Month /tg/!!!
>>97482909yes yes the salamanders have a very tragic legacy that none should omit
>>97482895>thematically dull unit.What would be a way to make that interesting? Though I'd say Rapiers fit mortals far better than marines, really
>>97482951I think rapiers work fine, theyre that step between "HSS heavy" and "vehicle heavy" and it makes sense that marines would have them given they have both others. Rapiers are also just "thematically cool", theyre the turret section unit. You can imagine them being deployed from hiding positions during an ambush, or as a desperate defensive measure, gunning down the foe from behind their shields (moreso the old ones I guess)Tarantulas are just shitty NPC turrets, lacking in personality or any real appeal.
>>97476403Ok after a day and a oil wash, I kinda don't hate it Thoughts on nmm gold
>>97482988ffs i hate phone posting some times.
>>97482988>Thoughts on nmmit will never sparkle and shine magically in natural interface with light and angle and i find that a little sad but you do you, i've seen very nice examples but i like actual metallics because they're alive as fuck
>>97483023Ok anon, thank you, but i did not ask your opinion ON NMM, i know not every one likes it. Im asking if this reads as NMM. Opinion ON the application of the technique, not the technique itself.
>>97483036i think you'd be better served with just metallics bro but what do i know
>>97483004I love it !
>>97482149Those guys are turbo-manlets even compared to 40k/FW marines
>>97482970I mean for marines. They are strong enough that a single marine can carry and operate a heavy weapon, take them anywhere an infantryman can. And their vehicles are very well armed and lead fast assaults.Rapiers don't look that fast, yet now they move the full 7" where they moved like 4" before. Idk what role they fill. I would've guessed something as strong as a battering ram would be slow
>>97483129Thats the thing though, a rapier fits the bill for a weapon too heavy for even a marine to carry by hand, yet are smaller, lighter and less expensive than vehicles.
Are Ruinstorm Daemons even worth trying these days? They seem really, really boring :(
>>97482951Deep strike, or even make them a piece of equipment for certain units they can drop on the battlefield like in Dawn of War 2, but even then they'd never be more than a meme. As a model there's just nothing to do with them unless you scratchbuild the whole piece and that isn't so easy to do.
>>97482988>>97483004needs more light reflections and brighter whites; also i think the color's a bit dull but it could be the picture
>>97483129Rapiers allow marines to bring heavy weapons normally only found on tanks into the confines of bunkers, space ship bulk heads etc.
>>97483064I don't give a shit. Personally don't understand this recent autism people have about all their marines having to be the exact same height and size, when in the novels marines are commonly described having different heights and in real life people come in wildly differing sizes too. You people obsessing over marine size need to get a grip already.
>>97483213>>97483135As long as the floor is level, no?
>>97483177well, I brough Samus + Hierarch + Harbinger +9 Brutes two games in a row and lost both but unless your opponent shoots literally his whole army into them it's hard to budge them.
>>97483177Never played them, always thought they were cool tho. Range refresh soon. I hope.
>>97483303More or less, sure, theres limitations there. But theres plenty of contexts, from zone mortalis to defensive positions where you can imagine "flat enough" terrain for tracked guns.
>>97483303Stairs remain space marines worst enemy.
>>97483365C'mon man, we talked about this, every time this comes up it ends with replacing all marines with orbital bombardments, and if you thought the heresy was bad...
>>97476600Bro, ignoring the trannystodes shit, the armor is what sells it for me. I like the more skinnystodes, they did also fuck up the spear triggers though.
>>97483208The SA tarantulas could deepstrike for some reason, where the marine ones could only be Forward Deployed (Scout) or Concealed (Shrouded until 1st shot).>A piece of equipment that can be dropped for a unitYou want those helldiver turrets?https://youtube.com/shorts/D8PTexW8fIE?si=2EOuGOnmZzwGOneO
>>97483446Yeah basically. Techmarines or recon squads or whatever can buy them and deploy them if you don't want to buy an individual unit
>>97483379>every time this comes up it ends with replacing all marines with orbital bombardmentsThe entire war WAS orbital bombardments, anon! The only engagements that make it to the tabletop are those where the field is protected by sufficiently capable AA or Void shields, necessitating a land assault. And the match is also happening on the outskirts of a Titanicus game
>>97483469>alpha legion cloaking memeI will never stop hating this
>>97483566What's wrong with wearing the heraldy as well as broadcasting the proper Identity codes of enemy forces? There's materials that change color if you apply electricity on them, right?
>>97483566get out of here culln, camouflage is a real thing and "muh chapter colors" is retarded and gay
>>97483211ill admit though painting on that trim was a bitch, like it was a very hard thing to try and understand how light would hit it.
>>97483675yeah i can imagine, nmm on space marines is not my cup of tea either. the trim is hell
>>97483365my nigga if a structure is frail enough to crumble in sections beneath the tread of an astartes it can readily be reduced to rubble in its entirety with bolter fire
>>97483715Yeah its rough, like on flat sections im a lot better on, or small things, but like yeah that particular spot was rough because i was not sure how light would hit it
>>97480807Either by attempting to recreate that which they do not sufficiently understand, or failing to understand why they should want to recreate it.I personally think there's a bunch of people who don't really like existing designs and think they can do better in the team but who knows.
>>97483469Why they got primaris backpacks?
>>97483566Same.
>>97483566>>97483770night lords frequently have plate with essentially the same shit going on but they use it to display gay arcing electrical patternslast i was made aware it's a thin layer of material capable of displaying even shifting images and such. it's a capability potentially on hand even if it too is gay
oh and snuff and torture films concerning the NL as well
>>97478891Hope to see you at adepticon titanicus singles brother
>>97483937Nah, not me. If I get the days off approved I'll look into i but that won't happen for a week at the earliest. Probably I'm gonna ask the club if they wanna have adepticon at home but even that is unlikely.
>>97476600God I cant wait to build my shield captain with a female head and get the local spergs finally kicked out of my nearby store.I'm so shit at heads too but I can just replace that later.
>>97483976Why not just copy a page from the Iron Hands players and magnetize the head?
>>97483976Get some house escher heads for that tough-chick-that-might-be-gay look.
>>97483976>get the local spergs finally kicked out of my nearby store.Why? What's their crime, anon?
>>97483989Interesting idea. If I can be bothered I will that way I could swap to the female head when someone starts showing signs of being a chud.>>97484004I've never seen them irl. Are the heads that shit or is it just the paint job?>>97484034I can get a laugh seeing people sperg out online. Being around it irl however is the cringiest shit imaginable.
>>97483950Sad, I was hoping to basedface and point at lazerhawk, and play my Vulturum against you. You will be with us in spirit.
>>97483566is it even that? looks more like he's been clawed by some monster that's left residual green energy there>>97483754because the artist is a retardit's like those artists who depicted the badab war but used primaris backpacks
>>97483230its not just size but proportions, power squatting never looked good
I love how I built this guy, it's just I don't think he's gonna fit my legion (AL)
>>97476676Matte red could probably break the look up better than having it all metallic.>>97484064>Interesting idea. If I can be bothered I will that way I could swap to the female head when someone starts showing signs of being a chud.Just make sure to mask it well seeing that magnets can be fiddly, or else he might catch on. Anon's Escher idea might be way too obvious.
>>97484430Chip off the spikes from the underside of the Iron Halo and he could fit as a Champion or other Consul. Or just paint him up as World Eaters.
>>97484430Sons of horus infiltrator, use him to bring along some justaerin
>>97483230Counterpoint: noU,
>>97484457>Matte redthe fw paintjob is much darker and reads betterstudio painters just sucking shit as usual
>>97483230Here is the truth a lot of size autists forget. When you are playing a game, and looking down at them at like 45 degrees at normal table height, you are never going to notice the difference.The only time you will is if someone points it out. The proportion and size is literally a self made issue.
>>97484430Why not? AL were all sneaky beaky only until it was time to kill everyone it makes sense for them to have a couple badasses.
>>97484584I have an army of mixed mk4, old metal centurions/consuls, and new mk6/centurions/consuls, and you can actually tell.this is a nogames take. consider playing an actual game with mixed model scales.
>>97484592No, you cant, because i do to, and the only reason you think you notice is because you make it a point in your concious thought. You will not notice them unless you explicity point it out nad go looking for it.Source i have been in this hobby for like 15+ years and seem the scale creep through out the game, its literally a nothing fucking burger.
>>97484714>You will not notice them unless you explicity point it out nad go looking for it.NTA, but you're retarded if you think you can't make this argument in the exact opposite way, that you're ignoring it because you don't want it to be true. I've included my very first marines as seekers in my blackshields army and while you may not notice while they're on their own, it's definitely noticeable in combat or mixed in with other plastic or tortuga.
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>>97476474lol
